Situation room. Tonight, dramatic new turnover in the president s legal team as mr. Trump and the special Counsel Robert Mueller may be headed for an ugly highstakes showdown. The Top White House lawyer is calling it quits and an attorney who represented m eed president clinton during the impeachment process is being hired. Ill get reaction from leon panetta, the former defense secretary to president obama, former chief of staff to president clinton. And our correspondents and analysts are also standing by. First, lets go to our chief white house correspondent, jim acosta. Jim, this is another sign the Trump Legal Team is getting more combative. Reporter thats right, wolf. President trumps legal team is changing again. This time, its white house lawyer, ty cobb, who is stepping down. He had advocated caution on the trumps legal team, but a source tells cnn that cobb was clashing with the president over his attacks on the special counsels investigation. It could be the most ominous departure on the Trump Legal Team yet. Ty cobb, the white house lawyer who had counseled the president for months to stop attacking special Counsel Robert Mueller is out. Cobb told cnn, ive done what i came to do in terms of managing the white house response to the special counsels requests. Im extremely grateful to the president and chief of staff john kelly for the opportunity to serve my country. But a source familiar with cobbs departure tells cnn, the white house lawyer was uncomfortable with the president s tweets hammering mueller and wanted no part of a mudslinging campaign, making it clear he cant go down that path. Replacing cobb, attorney emmett flood, who joins a legal team that has changed dramatically in recent weeks, adding former mayor Rudy Giuliani and losing both cobb and outside attorney, john dowd. Flood had worked on the legal team defending former president president clinton against impeachment. It depends upon which the meaning of the word is is. Democrats are pouncing on the latest chaos in trump world. Nobody can stay around donald trump long who has a conscious and who has character and who believes in ethics. I think thats probably why dowd left. Thats why ty cobb left. And thats why mr. Floods time is limited. Reporter the president s legal tweets on the Mueller Probe is a sign his legal team is getting more aggressive, hinting he could shut down the investigation, mr. Trump tweeted, at some point, i will have no choice but to use the powers granted to the presidency and get involved. The president is escalating his attacks on the Justice Department after mueller warned earlier this year he may subpoena mr. Trump to force his testimony. Democrats argue a subpoena might be necessary. Do i want to see it . No. But if its necessary, it must be done. What would make it necessary . If he refuses to answer questions that the special counsel deems necessary to be answered. Reporter Deputy Attorney general Rod Rosenstein who oversees the Mueller Probe told cnns Laura Jarrett his investigators are not backing down. There are people who have been making threats, privately and publicly, against me, for quite some time. And i think they should understand by now that the department of justice is not going to be extorted. Reporter that puts even more pressure on a president who has told reporters repeatedly he wants to cooperate with muellers team. Mr. President , would you still like to testify to special Counsel Robert Mueller, sir . Thank you. I would like to. You would do it under oath . Oh, i would do it under oath. Do you think Robert Mueller will be fair to you in this larger investigation . Were going to find out. Because heres what well say, and everybody says, no collusion. Theres no collusion. Now, this latest turmoil comes after the president tweeted just last month that he was happy with his legal team, calling ty cobb, quote, his special counsel. All the indications now are pointing to the president s legal team becoming much more combative in dealing with the russia investigation, as one source told cnn, playing nice hasnt gotten them anywhere. And wolf, there could be more changes coming to the president s legal team, as one source familiar with the discussions inside the white house told me earlier today, t emmet t. Flood could end up replacing the White House Counsel Don Mcgahn and that could happen in the coming months. Wolf . Lets bring in our justice correspondent, evan perez. What might these changes in trumps legal team might suggest . I think it suggests that the president is getting ready to do battle with the special counsel, wolf. I think the idea that theyve brought up that theyve suggested going the route of doing a subpoena, if they cannot come to an agreement with the president to do a voluntary interview, i think, shows you where this is going. Ty cobb was the last person in the president s team who was advocating for some kind of a deal. Some kind of an agreement, a cooperative stance with the special counsel. John dowd, who initially began on that side, by the time he left, had now moved over to the point where he believed that it was not a good to have the president sit down for a voluntary interview. And so now you have people who are looking at this and thinking that this is not a very good idea. And the special counsel may then have to do a subpoena. And then well see whether or not theres going to be a legal fight. Well, Rudy Giuliani is now one of his lead lawyers. The former new york mayor. He told the Washington Post today that if the president were to talk to mueller and his investigators, it would be a max, he said, of two to three hours, and would be restricted to certain questions. Is mueller likely to agree to those kind of terms . Its very interesting that this is the way their going about this, which is almost negotiating through the press. Look, i think if youre mueller, you need to have the president speak to the special counsel, before this is over. And so, if youre going to have to go through litigation, go all the way to the Supreme Court over a subpoena, thats not going to serve anybodys interests. So i think its very possible what will happen here is that, you know, people will theyll line up, again, theyll do battle. And then right before you get to a court decision, the two sides will find a way to come to an agreement. Maybe rudy is right. Maybe rudy will find a way to convince mueller to accept a limited interview, perhaps a couple of hours, not something that will last all day. Maybe have his lawyers in the room, which is not done, normally, under a grand jury. There are all kinds of ways you can come to some kind of terms to allow for this to go forward. Mueller clearly wants to show respect for the president , but there are limits to how far thats going to last. Thanks very much for that. Joining us now, leon panetta, he serves as the defense secretary and cia director during the obama administration. He was also the white house chief of staff during the blk administration. Mr. Secretary, thanks so much for joining us. Nice to be with you, wolf. All right. So were seeing some of the negotiations between Robert Mueller and the president s team play out in public, as we just reported. Where do you see all of this heading . Well, thats the big question of the moment. It clearly is crunch time with regards to the Mueller Investigation. I think theyve reached a point where, very frankly, theyre not going to be able to conclude this investigation without the testimony of the president of the United States. And at the same time, it would seem that if the president says that hes done nothing wrong, theres no collusion, then you would think that the ability to kind of speak the truth would make it easy for him to sit down and answer the questions of the special prosecutor. On the other hand, if that is a problem, then his legal team is going to continue to put up a confrontation and challenge the approaches of the special prosecutor, but ultimately, theyre playing a losing game. Because i think the courts will uphold the bright of this special prosecutor to get this kind of very important testimony. Is the departure, the quitting by ty cobb, as one of the president s lawyers, a sign that the president s strategy in dealing with the Mueller Investigation is about to get a whole lot more aggressive . That, too, is the question of the moment. Because emmet flood is a skilled lawyer and someone who i believe kind of respects the way the law is supposed to be enforced here. So, if youre expecting to get a skilled lawyer on a team thats going to fight every step of the way and basically try to confront the special prosecutor and challenge him, the way the president s been trying to do through his tweets, i just think that that, too, is is just a strategy thats going to lead to nowhere. Its basically going to lead to the courts trying to enforce what we all know has to take place here. One way or another, if the president wants this investigation to come to an end, its only going to come to an end when the president testifies to the special prosecutor. Thats the reality, and he can change lawyer every other day, but that reality remains the same. Quick question on emmet flood, the new lawyer coming into the white house to work with the president on all of this. He did serve during the bill clinton impeachment process. He was a relatively Junior Lawyer at that time. Did you know him . What ycan you tell us about him . I was not familiar with him, largely because i wasnt in washington at the time. But i do know through others that emmet flood is a skilled lawyer and somebody who is well respected in legal circles. So, you know, it will be interesting to see how this new lawyer added to this team with Rudy Giuliani and others, what kind of strategy are they ultimately going to agree to in order to try to bring this investigation and this prosecution to a conclusion . How much risk is involved for Robert Mueller, the special counsel, if he were to decide to subpoena the president . I think bobl mueller, being the kind of professional prosecutor that he is knows that in the end pb he cannot come to any conclusion unless he has the testimony of the president of the United States. I think hell knowing bob mueller, that hell try to do Everything Possible to work with the president s legal team, to see whether or not there is an froe approach that would be acceptable to them that would allow for the president to do this through some kind of agreement. Hell exhaust that effort. But if in the end they block him every step of the way, then theres no question in my mind that he will seek a subpoena. And that the courts will uphold his right to seek that subpoena. What are the implications, if the president were to get a subpoena, but he would still refuse to testify, to answer questions, and cite his right under the fifth amendment . Well, again, i think i think the president , for his own credibility purposes, having said that he in the past, that hes more than willing to sit down with a special prosecutor, that if theres a decision here to block his team every step of the way, whether its through opposing a subpoena, fighting a subpoena, and then when the president sits down, taking the fifth, one way or another, that would raise implications that there is some evidence here, with regards to the charges that might come against the president. I think the president has got to be very careful to play that game. Because, after all, this should be an effort. The president of the United States swore an oath to uphold the law. This should be a question of finding the truth. And if the truth is something that the president s not afraid of, then it would seem to me that he ought to cooperate with special prosecutor to bring this investigation to a conclusion. The Justice Department, as you know, says it wont turn over the complete memo that was written by Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney general, outlining the full scope of the Robert Mueller investigation. It wont turn it over to members of congress. They released a chunk of it, but a lot of it has been redacted, blacked out. The president tweeted this earlier this morniin the mornin. Let me put it up on the screen. A rigged system. They dont want to turn over documents to congress. What are they afraid of . Why so much redacting . Why so much unequal justice, justice in quotes. At some point, i will have no choice but to use the powers granted to the presidency and get involved. Heres the question, this memo concerns the investigation into the 2016 campaign, the behavior of people in office. Is it wise for the president to make a threat like this against his own Justice Department and, quote, get involved. I think the president has to be reminded time and time again that no president is above the law. This president isnt going to be able to use somehow his constitutional powers to avoid the law being enforced. And the reality is that when the Justice Department makes the decision as to what evidence they will or will not turn over to congress, what theyre trying to do is to make sure that they do not impact on an investigation, a legal investigation into a potential crime. And theyre the ones that have the right to make that judgment. If the president tries to interfere with that, if the president tries to do something that tries to breach their approach to enforcing the law, then very frankly, the courts will uphold the rule of law. Thats what the president has to keep in mind. He might want to play that game, but ultimately, he would pay a heavy price if he does. Well, what if he were simply to declassify that memorandum and say, i dont agree with the Justice Department. They say these paragraphs are redacted because it could undermine criminal investigations that are underway right now, but the president legally, he can declassify anything he wants, right . Well, im not so sure thats the case when it comes to a legal investigation. Its true when it comes to to secrets that are involved with sblebl intelligence and in dealing with foreign crises of one kind or another. But if it involves the president interfering with a legal investigation and releasing trying to release facts that could impede that legal investigation, i think that president would be in trouble. Yeah, i think you make a good point on that front. Let me quickly get your reaction, mr. Secretary, to cnns reporting that the Current White House chief of staff, john kelly, called President Trump, and im quoting now, unhinged. This is just one of many instances of top advisers criticizing the president like this behind closed doors, but as you know, word gets out very quickly. What does all of this tell you . Well, you know, again, there are all kinds of reports about what people say about the president. And i dont know whats true and whats not true. But its obvious, too, that if the president is going to be able to do his job, hes got to have a trusting relationship with his chief of staff. And i guess im hopeful that despite how tough it is in that relationship, that ultimately, because i think john kelly is a good person and trying to do the right thing, i hope that they can restore a relationship of trust, because, ultimately, this president cannot do his job, unless hes got a strong chief of staff whos willing to support that president. Thats the bottom line. So well see where it goes. But i do hope that both of them can develop that kind of trust, because its essential to a chief of staff and a president being able to do their jobs. But if the president undermines the white house chief of staff, tells new people coming into the white house, like larry kudlow, his economic adviser, john bolton, the National Security adviser, you know what, dont go through the white house chief of staff, youre reporting directly to me. If the president decides to use his personal cell phone to skirt the white house chief of staff and not let the white house chief of staff know with whom hes talking, how long can a white house chief of staff and you were once a white house chief of staff continue in that job . Well, then thats a decision for john kelly to make. If, in fact, the president who has the power to do that tells people, you can bypass the chief of staff, you dont have to go through the chief of staffs operation, then i think john kelly faces a very tough decision as to whether or not he can do his job if the president doesnt respect his role as chief of staff. I would certainly not remain chief of staff if the president did that to me when i was chief of staff. Yeah, its a pretty serious snub, indeed. Leon panetta, as usual, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, wolf. Still ahead, what did a former Trump Campaign aide tell the special counsels team today . Well have a live report on the latest testimony in the russia probe. And the tale of the tapes. A trump accuser looking for evidence in recordings of the apprentice. This endangered species is getting help from some unexpected friends. These zebra and antelope. Theyre wearing iot sensors, connected to the ibm cloud. When poachers enter the area, the animals run for it. Which alerts rangers, who can track their motions and help stop them before any harm is done. Its a smart way to help increase the rhino population. And turn the poachers into the endangered species. You wouldnt accept from any one else. Why accept it from your allergy pills . 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Zervos lawyer is asking Metro Goldwyn may er, which owns the archives of the apprentice to provide a series of documents to her legal team. They want them to turn over all documents, video, or audio that feature Summer Zervos or donald trump speaking about Summer Zervos and all video in which trump speaks about women in an inappropriate matter. Heres what theyre explicitly asking for. Any recordings of trump talking or commenting about the female candidates or female potential candidates of any season of the apprentice in any sexual or inappropriate manner, including, without limitation, any statements or comments by trump concerning any female candidates or potential candidates body or body parts and or his sexual or romantic desire or intention concerning any female candidate or potential candidate. So they the lawyer for Summer Zervos, marianne wang, tells me, we are gathering evidence that will prove that defendant trump lied when he falsely denigrated mrs. Zervos and denied sexually assaulting her. Of course, zervos is suing trump for defamation, for denying those allegations, calling her a liar. She has accused him of sexually assaulting her in 2007. So this is interesting, we also know that they want to depose a representative from mgm, to ask them how are all of these audio and video recordings from any tapings or additions related to the apprentice, how are they maintained, how are they stored . Who has access to them . Were any ever destroyed . They want to be able to ask mgm representatives directly about those recordings. Theyre also asking for records from the Beverly Hills hotel. That is the location where zervos says was one of the incidents where she says that trump groped her back in 2007. That subpoena is seeking records of any stay by trump from 2005 through the end of 2009, plus any documents related to keith shiller, his longtime body gard, and also rhona graf, his longtime assistant or Summer Zervos. They also want to depose a representative from the Beverly Hills hotel, to ask similar questions about how the records are maintained. They also want to find out if there are any video recordings that depict the entrances, common areas, or bungalow areas of the Beverly Hills hotel during the month of december 2007. So they are clearly trying to get this evidence to prove their case. And as is familiar were seeing now in a lot of these legal woes that trump is facing, theyre hoping to use his own words against him. And of course, this all goes back in many ways to that access hollywood tape, the infamous tape where you could hear trump on tape talking about women in a vulgar matter and talking about grabbing women by the genitals. Wolf . Athena jones, thanks for that update. As the president is girding for the battle against Robert Mueller, the special counsels team was interviewing a former Trump Campaign aide today. Lets go to our senior congressional correspondent, manu raju. Manu, what are you learning . Reporter Michael Caputo, former Trump Campaign adviser did meet with the special Counsel Robert Muellers team today, this after he has met with other panels that have been investigating the russia matter. Caputo himself has been a longtime friend and associate of roger stone. Stone is someone whos been very close to the president over several decades. And stone himself has come under a lot of scrutiny as part of this investigation, because of contacts that he had with an intermediary, with wikileaks, which is the organization that released those hacked clinton emails. Stone also had jokingly told a friend that he was having dinner with Julian Assange during the campaign season. He later said it was a joke. Even his Text Messages and other records show that he was saying that he was going to have dinner with Julian Assange. Undoubtedly, those are issues that this investigation is looking into. Something that perhaps Michael Caputo was asked about, if he had any knowledge of this, as well. Caputo told me that he believed it was a difficult but fair proceeding, and when he met with the special counsels team. Caputo has denied doing anything wrong, saying theres absolutely no evidence whatsoever of collusion between the Trump Campaign and russia. And when he met with the Senate Intelligence committee yesterday, he made that abundantly clear. He said this has essentially been wrapped up, people who have nothing to do with this issue and forced legal bills to skyrocket, including his own, to the tune of 125,000, forcing him to make decisions that could really implicate his family, and left the Senate Intelligence committee saying, excuse me my language, this is from his closing statement which he released, he said, goddamn you to hell, what he said to the Senate Intelligence committee staff. Unclear if he said that to Robert Muellers team today. But he describe that as fair, but also said it was difficult, too, wolf. Manu, thanks for that update. Just ahead, he helped president clinton survive the impeachment process. How will President Trumps newest lawyer impact the next phase of the russia investigation . And will the president s past as a reality tv star be used against him . Our legal analysts are standing by to weigh in on the move, the newest move by a trump accuser. I just got a pretty sweet deal on this card for mothers day. Nice. I got a sweet deal on this iphone at verizon for my mom. Im not done shopping. I just start with a card and then work up to. vo this mothers day, get up to 50 off the latest iphone on us. Unlimited is only as good as the network its on. So allstate is giving us money back on our bill. Well, that seems fair. We didnt use it. Wish we got money back on gym memberships. Get money back hilarious. With claimfree rewards. Switching to allstate is worth it. If youd have told me three years ago. 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But the whole notion of Rudy Giuliani telling mueller, well, you might get two or three hours with the president , thats it, but theyve got to be specific subjects that are discussed. Where do things stand now. You have to wonder what Robert Mueller thinks when he sees Something Like that. Oh, thats what you think is going to happen . Look, this is an Ongoing Investigation by both sides. And sources have told both me and gloria that the prospect of an interview with Robert Mueller was dim and is growing dimmer by the day since the raid on President Trumps personal attorney, michael cohen. That said, it isnt off the table yet. They are still looking at some possibilities of how they would want an interview to be. But that doesnt mean that Robert Mueller will agree to that. And as we reported last night in an earlier meeting last month, Robert Mueller did bring up the idea of a subpoena, compelling the president to testify, which would mean it would happen, if he won, if there was a court battle, in a grand jury where the president would not be presented by a lawyer. Thats something the president s legal team seriously has to weigh here. What do we know about this emmet flood t, the new member o the white house legal team. What does that suggest to you . This is somebody who has a lot of experience with the issue of impeachment, during bill clinton. Hes also somebody who is an expert of executive privilege, im told, which is another issue that could come up. Hes somebody who worked for bush. So and im told by people who know him is that he couldnt be more different from donald trump if he tried to become like bob mueller, who is incredibly different from donald trump. Hes a buttoned down guy, very organized, you know, no seat of the pants kind of a lawyer. And so, its going to be interesting to see how that relationship develops. He will not have the same job, im told, that ty cobb had. Cobbs job was essentially getting the documents all ready and handing them over to the special counsel. Theres been some argument between, say, don mcgahn, the white house counsel, and ty cobb about whether cobb should have used the issue of executive privilege more than he did. So we may be hearing a little bit more about that. Theres also some thought that maybe when mcgan leaves, that flood could move into that job of white house counsel. But right now, his job will be focused on the russia investigation. On march 11th, jeff, President Trump flatly denied in a tweet that he was making any changes as far as his legal team is concerned. Let me read to you his statement on march 11th. The president of the United States. The failing New York Times purposefully wrote a false story stating that i am unhappy with my legal team on the russia case and am going to add another lawyer to help out. Wrong i am very happy with my lawyers, john dowd, ty cobb, and jay sekulow, they are doing a great job. We know that john dowd since then is gone. Ty cobb today, gone. He did add Rudy Giuliani, added a couple lawyers, miamibased lawyers to the legal team. The failing New York Times was not failing then, not failing now. The failing New York Times was right and the president clearly with this statement was wrong. Well, heres the thing about being a lawyer for working for donald trump. Its just like anyone else working for donald trump. I mean, look at the turnover. Look at the turnover in the cabinet. How many National Security advisers has he had . This is how donald trump manages people. They come and go. And given the importance of lawyers, and, you know, to a president who is under a very serious investigation, it is not at all surprising that he became dissatisfied and broke ranks, you know, dowd who was essentially in charge, ty cobb, who was the white house liaison to the lawyers. And, you know, the merry go round continues. Take a look in the last four months the turnover on his leukemia team, even though a couple of months ago, the president said, theres not going to be much of a hes very happy with his legal team. No changes. Nobody new is coming in, nobody is leaving. Just hardly any women and no black people. Thats the rule of the trirnump administration. Well, i was also told that one of the things that bothered the president he couldnt get any bigtime washington lawyers to go work for him. So emmet flood is a bigtime washington lawyer, so now hes checked that box. Superb lawyer. What happens, joey jackson, if the mueller team issues a subpoena to the president of the United States . Walk us through the process . Lets say he refuses voluntarily to answer questions. Sure. Well, just to get up to speed, you know, as it relates to a subpoena. Were talking about a grand jury subpoena. Just to remind you, grand jury has 23 members. A majority. That is 12, can vote to indict whatever subjects are before them. The issue is, is there reasonable cause to believe a crime was committed and whatever subject committed it. Were talking about a grand jury subpoena. The process will be, clearly, the president , like anybody else, is not above the law. Skru and as a result of that, theres certainly president for a grand jury to be issued to a president. I will remind you about bill clint clinton. Bill clinton was subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury. He testified and ultimately he withdrew any objection and appeared voluntarily. The significance of that, he was able to negotiate the terms of his appearance, bill clinton before the grand jury. Closedcircuit television, multiple hours, about five hours. He had attorneys president. Thats important, because youre not allowed to have attorneys in a grand jury. So the president certainly has the option of challenging it, taking it all the way. I dont see a legitimate basis for him to challenge it. But if he does testify, wolf, the issue will be whether he pleads the fifth. And how ironic that will be, having played the various clips where the president says, hey, only guilty people plead the fifth amendment. Why would they be pleading if theyre not guilty . I think the president seriously thooz consid has to consider it, given the fact he plays loose and fast with the truth. Thats just the fact. Theres another point to be made about possible testimony, either voluntary or grand jury. Rudy giuliani said today he was proposing two or three hours. Its not unreasonable for the president of the United States to have a time limit on an interrogation. Usually in the grand jury, they can just talk to you as long as they want. But given the unusual, unique status of the president in our constitutional system, even if its a grand jury system, and even if hes forced to testify, it is quite possible a judge would say, you can only have him for four hours. So two or three hours, as giuliani proposed, is certainly too short. But with clinton, it was only four, and i think it went a little longer than that. So the idea of time limits is not unreasonable. But when you see those 49 questions and you see the ground that has to be covered, you know, i he may not get i can see mueller saying, wait a minute, thats just not he may not be able to answer or he may not be able to ask all those questions. Thats why its a gamble, if you think about it, to let this get to a subpoena where it goes to a court fight. And if mueller wins, they wouldnt with able to negotiate these terms. A time limit, like you point out, or what questions would be asked. Because if mueller would win that court fight, he would have to go before this grand jury without a lawyer. And thats why clinton ultimately caved. But the critical thing, he can always say, i plead the fifth. That has political consequences, but legally, hes entitled to say, i have a fifth amendment right against selfincrimination no matter what you ask me, if it relates to any criminality. As any american can do. But his lawyers say and they tell us at this point that there are so many constitutional issues that theyve got to deal with first that they dont think it would ever get to that. And they never change their positions on anything. Never. All right, guys, stick around. Theres more news were following. Another front for the president s legal team to do battle. Will a trump accuser get access to the apprentice tapes . 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With north korea, china, the middle east and so much more, there is not much time to be thinking about this, especially since there was no russian collusion. Earlier in the day, the president had a similar tweet, saying theres very important issues, north korea, nuclear war, china, trade deficits, negotiations and nafta, witch hunt there was no collusion. It is a hoax. In 1997, bill clintons lawyers made exactly the same argument to the United StatesSupreme Court in saying, i dont have time, as president , to, you know, give a deposition in the paula jones Sexual Harassment case. Look at all the things im doing. And president s are busy on very important matters. And the Supreme Court said, too bad and theres every reason to believe that a court today would say, too bad, youre not above the law. Can i just make a point that he is quoting he is quoting john dowd, who left who quit. Who quit because the president , partly because the president wasnt taking his advice. He is quoting john dowd, who actually said this to the special counsel, the president is very busy. But here is the very busy president , who spends his time, you know, tweeting about how very busy he is with all of these other things, instead of being busy with all of these other things. And at the oral argument of the clinton v. Jones case, Justice Scalia said, how come the president is playing golf if hes so busy . Donald trump play s more golf than bill clinton, thats for sure. We also know there was a major meeting at the white house on north korea today and the president did not attend that meeting. He did not attend that meeting. He hasnt tweeted about that, but he has tweeted about collusion at least two times today. And yet in this latest tweet, he says, there is not much time to be thinking about this, and so forth. Hes quoting this, john dowd, his former attorney, what john dowd reportedly said from Robert Mueller from the Washington Post article that came out last night. So he is quoting something from the Washington Post and all of this is really ironic. This is why the tweets are the truest donald trump you will ever get. They really show you how his mind works and how one thing kind of leads let me get joey to weigh in. What do you think . He cant go down that alice and wonderland hole at least as it relates to untruthful testimony if he does testify at any point. The reality is im certain he knows how to walk and chew gum at the same time. The probe is a significant probe. The American People have a right to find out exactly what occurred. Mueller is doing it saying we know based upon 19 indictments and 5 guilty pleas that its not a witch hunt at all and we have to let it run its course. So we have north korea and china and the iran deal and so many things that are impacting the country but at the same time the show must go on as it relates to collusion and the interference of russia in our elections. Stick around. More news. 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Republican supporters of scott pruitt thought he dodged a bullet when he went to capitol hill and held his own answering questions about his ethics but now he has relied on lobbists for policy matters and some of the most controversial and expensive trips in his first year at the epa. Already facing a dozen different probes relating to allegations of unethical behavior new details are emerging about Scott Pruitts expensive International Trips. Once again his close ties to lob yiss are mixing with official epa business. I met with stake holders across the country. People that we regulate that their voices have not been heard for many years. His controversial december trip to morocco was arranged by this man. A lobbyist and long time friend of pruitts. Now also registered as a Foreign Agent making 40,000 a month to promote moroccos interests according to a Washington Post report. I cant for the life of me imagine while an epa administrator would be promoting energy sales. He accompanied pruitt which cost taxpayers more than 100,000. Pruitt said he went to help negotiate a free trade agreement. We were there in december to negotiate the environmental chapter. That was the focus of the trip. But the focus of his trips dont tell the whole story. Another example his International Trip to italy in june was also arranged by a pruitt friend. The head of the federalist society. It cost 120,000. The trip to italy was a g7 trip occurring a week after the paris decision. An epa spokesperson said the office of international and Tribal Affairs organized the trips. Attempts to reach them were unsuccessful. Despite the controversies pruitts policies have been popular with his supporters but now House Republicans are moving forward with their own investigation. Among the items for them to look into the New York Times reports that lobbyist steven hart was emailing recommendations for a science poord while his wife rented pruitt a 50 per night apartment in washington. We have documents and we are scheduling witness interviews. Were going to interview those witnesses and we got permission friday to start scheduling those. Two of pruitts more controversial staffers, his head of security and his long time banker from oklahoma that was running the epa program to clean up Super Fund Sites both left the agency abruptly this week. They had become wrapped up in bad pruitt headlines. Especially the security chief that oversaw the expansion of pruitts Security Team and justified more than 200,000 in first class travel for pruitt. New information continues to come out about the way scott pruitt is spending money. Democratic lawmakers now say they have information that scott pruitt wanted an epa office in his hometown of tulsa oklahoma. Secure facility with a sound proof booth where he could work and make phone calls. It didnt end up happening but these requests have people concerned about his priorities and how he is spending taxpayer money. What are you hearing from Administration Officials behind the scenes . How much longer can he stay in the job . Its divided. Theres a core group of people that support him and want him to stay there but also people that feel like they were scapegoated by his answers on capitol hill and think he is abusing some of the power that he holds and that comes with the detriment of the taxpayers and also the policies. Thank you very much. Thats it for me. Erin burnett out front starts right now. New demands tonight as trump shakes up his legal team adding clintons impeachment lawyer. Plus more legal problems for the president. Trump accuser subpoenas unreleased footage from the apprentice. What is she looking for . And new questions after trumps doctors bombshell revelation, can we believe anything we have heard about the president s health . Lets go out