Back. What is it like when the press destroys your life . Donna rice knows all too well, and shes here to tell me. By now, you have seen lots of images from the man with ebola is being isolated and nursed, hopefully back to health, but i bet you have not seen this, what is on the other side of the cameras, rows and rows of camera crews and reporters and tv trucks covering an invisible disease that as far as we know today has only infected one man in this city of 8 million. Its news because its new. After all, you cant spell news without new. But well examine how the media has responded to this latest ebola case, and whether we the public are being well served. Two experts are about to join me in the studio, but first, a telling statistic. If youre sitting at home, maybe thinking about changing the channel, we have news for you. Youre in the minority. Take a look at this Research Data from october 16th through 19th that shows 49 of americans are following news about ebola very closely. Another 32 say theyre following the news at least fairly closely. That totals more than 70 . Pew said this is one of the ten most closely followed news stories in the past ten years ranking with the killing of Osama Bin Laden and hurricane sandy. So how should experts communicate about ebola in a way that is reassuring and not in a way that just spreads fear . If people are paying such close attention, this is a critical question. Lets bring in dr. Alexander, an expert in tropical diseases and now a cnn medical analyst. Thank you for peag hebeing here. Thanks for having me. I was watching cnn thursdy night, you were on with Anderson Cooper when this news broke of the confirmed case of ebola in new york. You were so careful about assuring folks. You said you lived about five blocks from where this man was living and you felt perfectly safe going home, taking an uber taxi, going to the bar. Was that purposeful language for you to try to reassure the public . Yeah, i think it wasnt so much a conscious choice. It was prompted by a question, and clearly my proximity and the fact im not concerned at all about this, but we have a real difficulty reassuring people about ebola because we have two conflicting stories. Mixed messages . Exactly, well, the scientice the contradictory. On the one hand, thomas eric duncan, his family stayed with him for several days and did not catch ebola. We have proof its hard to catch. We have know other people, patrick sawyer, flyingnig niger nigeria, infected 11 people once he got to nigeria, but nobody on the plane got it. And doctors and nurses catch this disease seemingly quite easily. We have this contradiction and its hard to explain to the public the difference between contagious, how easy it is to catch, and infectious, how likely you are to get it if you get a droplet of bodily fluid in your mouth. Its highly contagious, not very infectious. When you see the television coverage, when you read the online coverage, youre not seeing an overreaction on the part of the resz. Instead, maybe what youre seeing is an attempt to explain something that is really complicated. Theres a really difficult balance to strike. The press has done a really good job doing what its meant to do, keeping an eye on the authorities. Holding the government accountable. Exactly, and the cdc did not do a good job in atlanta, was poorly prepared and the government has been incredibly slow to react to the international crisis. But in doing that, of course, the constant streaming of ebola, ebola, ebola. Wall to wall coverage. The makes people nervous. It sounds like a case where the medium is the message. By covering it all the time, theres a message people receive that it is dangerous, even if its not dangerous to them personally. The analysis, the next step you would really want from the story is to say what should we worry about . The answer is, we shouldnt be worried about ebola. We should be worried about other diseases. We have evidence the cdc and the authorities dont protect us as well as they should. The disease is easy to control. Sanjay gupta has been great, saying this is bread and butter stuff. Its putting on cogowns, but fl thats going to kill thousands of americans this career. Am i right to think its hard to tell people what to be worried about. Risk is meaningless to people. Thats such an interesting idea. Should we worry . And the answer is, i have no idea. It depends on what you want to worry about. Its an emotional response. I cant tell you what to feel. What i would say is the thing people should be doing is a cost benefit analysis. The cost of restricting air travel versus the benefit. The benefit is almost nothing and the cost is massive. And everybody thinks the cost will be on the west african nations. If we restrict air traffic to them, they restrict air traffic to us. Thats a big problem. Thank you for being here. Thanks very much. Of all the reactions to the latest ebola case, this tweet stood out to me the most, from the keyboard of arthur kaplan. Nyc ebola patient went bowling. Remember, he was not infectious, so media, stop scaring people. Bowling may be more dangerous than he was. Lets see what he has to say this morning. Here hes here in studio. Bowling, more dangerous than ebola, come on . I suspect it is. When he was at the bowling alley, he was not symptomatic, he did not have vomiting and wasability excreting bodily fluids and wasment infectious. I know people are going to run around and say maybe he brushed up against someone. The own wnly way you can get is have to sex with him or share a tooth brush with him. Ill stand by it. Youre getting to this idea that we are afraid of the wrong things as a society. It feels like right now, we have gone from scary story to scary story to scary story. I can think back to isis this summer, maybe even the missing malaysian jet liner in the spring. Its not that those stories arent scary. Is it that we shouldnt personally fear what theyre about . I dont think we should overestimate the risk. Ebola is new. It came out of africa. Whoever heard of it . Now were wondering what this sort of out of control epidemic in africa is going to do to us. Im not saying we shouldnt Pay Attention and its reasonable to want to be cautious, but lets compare it to Something Else that comes from other places in the world, the flu. Every year it shows up, it kills 5,000 to 20,000 people. Do we freak out . Thats what i was saying, people arent able to judge risk that well. Were not wired that well. Let me give you an example of risk judgment that the media shapes. You have seen that ebola virus graphic. I think people think its three feet long and must be like a tape worm. Its a tiny microscopic thing, but the whole imagery of ebola, gear, suits, giant wormlike thing. You know, you couldnt do better if you were trying to produce a hollywood movie to scare people than the way this sort of comes across. Everybody wants to be the head of the network. What would you be doing differently today . One, lets keep our reporter to sort of the facts of ebola. We dont have to give the warnings to people to look out for this and that. They are going to naturally do it. Two, lets keep it to the guests who have something constructive to say. Its great to come on and say holy cow, should we quarantine this guy . Come up with something positive, give us some suggestions. If youre going to be a talking head, be a constructive talking head. Interesting point. Thanks for being here. My pleasure. I need to get in a quick break. When i come back, this question. Sinner or saint . Dr. Sensor, the man with ebola here in ebola is being criticized by some in the media for his actions after he returned home from west africa. Was he being reckless . Everybody has an opinion on it. Well take a look through the lens of red news, blue news, after this. Stay tuned. Were just Getting Started this morning. train horn vo wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. Norfolk southern. One line, infinite possibilities. Introducing Synchrony Financial bringing new meaning to the word partnership. Banking. Loyalty. Analytics. Synchrony financial. Engage with us. We know in the cyber world, threats are always evolving. At first, we were protecting networks. Then, we were protecting the transfer of data. And today its evolved to infrastructure. Finance. And military missions. Were constantly innovating to advance the front line in the cyber battle, wherever it takes us. Thats the value of performance. Northrop grumman. 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That means theres a lot of red news blue news to sort through. Are republicans exploiting the fears for political gain . Viewer have been hearing before the new case in new york. Isis and ebola are now being used to fear, to bring in fear into the campaigns. For example, there was discussed last night in the New Hampshire senate debate. Lets take a look at the exchange between sheehan and brown. The concern about our border, theyre concerned about ebola. Theyre concerned about travel, people coming into our country without proper authority, potengsomy carrying diseases, being criminal elements. We need to work together. What we dont need is people who are fearmongering, spreading panic in the public. Do you think theyre going to lose the battle of fear in november . Using fear in elections. My god, news at 11 00. An evergreen issue, but we should be on guard whenever politicians of any party seem to be in fear for personal gain. Ebola was seeming to fade from the headlines until thursday when word that dr. Spencer had fallen ill. One of the alarming details is he had a temperature of 103, a very high fever. What in the heck was he doing going bowling . Heres how megyn kelly reacted to the fever news on thursday night. He comes back into new york city, he knows hes been handling ebola patients. And hes here for a week. He doesnt tell anybody, and if he starts to feel symptomatic before his 103 fever, hes still bowling and taking taxis and not selfquarantining. We skewering the news correspondent, and she didnt have any symptoms. I completely agree with that. It doesnt sound like he took personal responsibility at all. There was a lot of this, not just on fox, a lot online, too. People calling dr. Spencer irresponsible. This is an excellent example about why we should all avoid rushing to judgment. Spencer did not have a 103 fever. He had100. 3 fever. We found thought on friday morning. Thats a lowgrade fever, not a highgrade fever. And this is what i mean when i say what a difference a number makes. This was the local governments mistake, by the way, not the medias mistake, but the media had to work extra hard on friday and into the weekend to correct the misinformation. Heres another clip of msnbcs jose diaz bilar this time kraekting a guest. That 103 fever means that his viral count is very high, and thats the time he becomes contagious. So, just to get by the way, theyre saying it was 100. 3 fever he had when he called the officials and when he checked in. Good correction there, but you know, a big mistake. This is a small example of why red news and blue news and all the rest of the news have to be so careful, even when repeating numbers provided by the authorities. There were many defenders of the doctor, clearly saying hes a saint, not a sinner, especially once the new information came out. Look at this friday headline. The new york ebola patient is a brave and heroic doctor. Stop criticizing his bowling trip. I want to share one more number with you because i think it puts all the red and blue News Coverage into perspective. Its 49 . Thats the percentage of republicans who told pew that they were very or at least somewhat worried about personally being exposed to the ebola virus. Compare that to 36 of democrats. This pew headline says republicans increasingly worried about ebola exposure. I wonder if this is about liberals and conservatives being wired differently, reacting to threats differently. Its definitely in their fews to government. Republicans expressing less confidence in the government to prevent an ebola outbreak. Maybe thats why the last sound bite sounds crazy to democrats but resonates with some republicans. The one, the only donald trump who said obama should resign because this guy had ebola in new york. Then he took to instagram to say this. 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Find new ways to save energy and money with pg es Business Energy checkup. President obama has said time and time again that he does not watch cable news. Now, five and a half years in, there are a lot of people on shows like this one on cable news simply trashing him. And to be fair, this is usually the time that media figures view president s as lame ducks and take the gloves off, but it feels unusually harsh this time around with the press seeming to resent the president s approach to every crisis of the moment. And this moment, its ebola. Obama was eventually sort of pressured into naming an ebola czar. By the time he did that, the media figures demanding a czar were complaining he was too late. Heres the latest cover of business week. This is wild. It portrays obama as too cool for crisis management, which made me want to know more about the president s attitude toward this. Theres this cliche we have seen time and time again whenever some story dominates the headlines and doesnt seem to dominate the president s time. It goes like this. Is blank obamas katrina . The answer is always no. But the question keeps getting asked. Most recently with ebola. So lets hear from the rarest of men, a man who can speak to both the medias language and the president s language on these things, jay carney. The former White House Press secretary and now a plitcon analyst here at cnn. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. Is it true the president doesnt watch any cable news . It is true. Which doesnt mean that he doesnt get news. In a realtime basis. He does. Hes a voracious consumer of the printed word, even the electronic printed word, but he doesnt watch cable news. I have spent countless hours with him on air force one, especially, in the Conference Room where we always had the tv on, and it was never in any of the trips i ever took with him, tuned in to cable news. I want to get back to that, but what are the print outlets . He reads the New York Times, the wall street journal, Washington Post, probably politico, and some tv some of the things he would cross his ipad would include news from cnn or msnbc websites. You didnt mention fox news website. Hes aware of whats out there. I dont think it would be accurate to say by not watching cable news, hes not aware of what the political fight of the day is. But he does maintain, i think, a healthy distance from it. I wonder if theres some contempt, then, for this medium . I think every president that i have known, covered as a reporter and now worked for, has a textured at best relationship with the media. Especially the Washington Press that tends to focus and fixate on the sensesational story of the day. And sometimes at the expense of kind of looking more longterm. And this president , look, he has strengthens and weaknesses like anybody else. He is that cover you pointed to you think theres a grain of truth to the cover . In a sense that he doesnt get he doesnt hyperventilate about political crises of the moment. He takes the long view. He is very cool tempered. And would often caution us not to get wrapped up in whatever the fight of the moment is. Now, i think thats a strent, but also, it can also sometimes mean youre going to lose the fight of the moment in the media. Its arguably the reason he got elected in the first place and maybe hurts him now. The issue about not getting too wrapped up in the story, the crisis of the moment really intrigues me because its a diversion from what the press is focused on. And then we have days and days of coverage basically bashing him on channels like fox. Sure. Look, i think that its hard to find the sort of perfect balance because you dont want, and i dont think any of us should want as citizens, a white house that governs by cable news or by twitter. That would be very counterproductive. Governing by cable news. Thats an interesting phrase. In a sense that youre always reacting to the news sensesation of the day is. The fires burn brighter than ever now because of the immediacy of social media and cable news, but they burn out more quickly. That isnt to say that stories dont matter. Isis is a big story, and it matters. Ebola is a big and important story. There has been sensationalism when it comes to what ebola means for the united states. Internally, i think that the media has probably overplayed that story. Didnt he get backed into naming a czar because of all the pressure from congress and the press . Thats a fair point. Having a czar to oversee a response is a good idea. I think ron klain, i worked for him when i was chief of staff, he is one of the smartest people in washington and has a lot of experience in managing across agency, so thats a good idea, but president obama tends to resist doing what the conventional wisdom says he should do. Often, hes right, but sometimes the conventional wisdom is right, too. Thanks for being here. Tyime for a quick break, buta phrase we have heard a lot, loanwolf attacks. From the shooting in canada to a hatchet attack in new york city. I want to talk about an ugly question that gets whispered around newsrooms every time these events unfold. Is the suspect a muslim . That question is an uncomfortable one, but were going to explore why it gets asked, right after this. E financial noise financial noise financial noise financial noise lone wolf is one of those phrases that has been seared into our brains. This week, we heard it when a man said to be lured to isis mowed down two canadian soldiers with his vehicle, killing one of them. And we heard it two days later when another man opened fire in parliament, killing a soldier at the war munorrial, and a day after that, when a man with a hatchet wounded two Police Officers here in new york. Local authorities are now calling it a terrorist act. Let me be honest with you about something that goes on in every newsroom when these crimes happen. This might sound awful to you, but i know for a fact it happened wednesday. Everyone in our newsroom was asking, was the man in the shooting a muslim. That awkward moment when youre sitting around waiting to find out the shooters religion because it will determine how big a story it is. Mika zen co took it a step further. He suggested there are two kinds rf mass shootings. He wrote mentally ill or disgruntled. Thats a tragedy soon forgotten. Muslim or motivated by foreign events, thats terrorism, requiring a response. In the sometimes awful calculus of news, the word muslim makes a story much bigger. At least in this day and age. This is an important discussion to have right now about why the press and how the press prioritizes certain crimes over others, so joining me now to talk about it are two friends of the show. Journalist and Foreign Policy analyst, and frank sesno. Thank you both for being here. Is this just a fact of life, frank, that if the tword, terrorism, is applied, a story is going to become bigger . Yes, the terrorism word galvanizes law enforcement. It drives Media Coverage. It scares the public, because theres also the big overhang, the big question mark, is it connected to another act . Is it part of something that could be organized . Or is it a lone wolf, and its just another tragic example of what happens when a deranged or a disturbed person has a gun. So this is a fact of life, but should it be . Thats a harder question, brian, and one as youre quite right, we agonize over. Yes, probably. But with great great distance and great respect. When you see this happen, how do you react . Many people that have been on television in the last weeks saying that islam is equal to isis, actually open the door and made Many Americans fearful of what is next. So this individual in canada and other individuals, whether in new york or others, that might be connected to isis, they are a minority that should never be equated with islam, because otherwise, youll have to go and wage a war on a religion. I have to say, though, i think we have to be careful tat we dont paint with too broad a brush. I dont say many people say isis equals islam and people out there saying all islamic extremists represent all of islam, and this is because its someone who is a muslim or because its related, therefore that tarnishes the entire religion or the entire, you know, Huge Population around the world who are muslim. Thats why were listening just for the tword, but the mword, muslim, when were wondering about the background of a suspected criminal, someone who has done a terrible act. When this shooting is happening now in america, for me, this is as painful as an act of terror. This is a criminal act of terrorism. Youre saying label the newtown shootings terrorism . Absolutely. Frank . The fact of the matter is, the fact of the matter is that all crimes are terrible, and all crimes are tragic, but theyre not all the same. You dont solve them the same, you dont cover them the same, you dont contechtualize them the same. Domestic violence, if youre in law enforcement, you pursue them differently. If something is terrorismrelated, yes, we have to understand the story, we have to understand the perpetrator, understand the context, understand where its coming from. I as a journalist need to tell that story, and those stories, i dont tell them all the same way, and i shouldnt tell them all the same way. Let me ask you, how do you feel to recognize that chris hayes said journalists and me ask the mquestion, if muslims were responsible when those crimes happen. How does it make you feel . Im a journalist. I look at individual acts as a criminal act. For me, hes not a religious hero. Hes a criminal and should be held accountable, but i cant hold an entire community or even link him to an entire faith that, you know, 1. 6 billion belong to. As journalists, you have to ask that question. You cant ignore anything. Where are people from . What is mote evaluating them . What drives this . You have to ask that question. But you have to do it proportionally, you have to do it respectfully to the larger community. And you have to do it contextualy. We have to understand what is going on. Thats our job. Thank you both for being here. Let me know what you think of this, send me a tweet or a message on facebook. Up next here, what is it like to have your life completely destroyed by the media . My next guest has firsthand experienceinse this. Unfortunately, she survived her own media fire storm and shes reliving it now thanks to the fact Monica Lewinsky is back in the spotlight. Introducing Synchrony Financial. Bringing new meaning to the word, partnership. Banking. Loyalty. Analytics. Synchrony financial. Engage with us. If yand youre talking toevere rheumyour rheumatologiste me, about a biologic. This is humira. This is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. This is humira giving me new perspective. 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I bet you have an opinion about the next segment. Thats part of the point. Did you see this . Monica lewinsky speaking in public for the first time in over a decade just a few days ago. She called herself patient zero, the worlds first victim of internet bullying. Its not literally true but the way shes positioning herself now as she said she is campaigning against this type of bullying. She spoke of the forbes 30 under 30 summit and recalled how every painful detail of her affair with president clinton was dissected by the media and thanks to the web, by the newly empowered public. There was no facebook, twitter, or instagram, but there were gossips, news, and entertainment websites replete with comment sections, and emails could be forwards. Of course, it was all done on the excruciatingly slow dialup. Yet around the world, this story went. A viral phenomenon that you would argue was the first moment of truly social media. My guest this morning has a unique perspective on this because she has also endured intense media scrutiny and harsh judgment after she was rumored to be having an affair with a married senator, gary hart, seeking reelection. She has survived and bounced back. Her name is donna rice hughes. Shes president of an Organization Called enough and enough and producer of the tv series shown on pbs stations. Thank you for being with us. Thank you, brian, for having me. When you saw Monica Lewinsky on tv this week, how did you feel about seeing her . Well, first of all, we need more voices speaking out against the incredibly difficult epidemic of cyberbullying. And secondly, im really glad that shes using her pain as a platform to help others. Her pain and her experience. Have you ever communicated with her, anytime you have been in touch . No, we have never been in touch. I do feel like theres only maybe a handful of people who have been through that kind of ringer of Media Attention around a scandal involving a man and a woman. You know what i mean . Thats true, and its very difficult, especially for the women. Oftentimes, the men get circled, the wagons circle around them, and the girls, the women, are basically just thrown aside or tossed to the media feeding frenzy. And thats certainly what happened to me and i believe thats what happened to her as well. Monica lewinsky was essentially invisible for many years and now she is resuming a public face. Did that happen to you as well . How many years were you away from the public spotlight . Well, i dropped out for seven years. I didnt know seven years. Wow. Seven years underground. I had a lot of opportunities initially to exploit the situation. Good ones and also ones that were not good. But it was a very difficult and painful time. And i wanted that pain and that experience to count for something bigger than me. And to be known for who i was and not for who people thought i was. The issue you advocate day to day is not as closely related to why you became a household name as the one Monica Lewinsky is advocating for, cyberbullying. Shes pulling from her own personal story in that speech and in future speeches. Is that a risk for her . I dont think so. No, i think oftentimes when youve gone through great trials and suffering, you have the opportunity to have empathy for those who have experienced similar kinds of things. And i certainly did. Even though i didnt experience cyberbullying, i know what its like to be bullied by Mainstream Media that has gone tabloid. And its one thing, you know, for people just treating people poorly online. Its another thing, you know, to be really the first out there in a situation where the media had never experienced this kind of thing, and there was a rush for headlines and deadlines and the kind of the telephone game, and all of a sudden, a caricature become becomes emerges of who you are, which bears little or no resemblance to who you really are. Now youre using the media, using television, using print, using online some of the same media that so viciously attacked you and treated you. Do you find any, i dont know, perverse joy in that . Its not perverse joy, but i call it getting back on the horse that true me, and gods sense of humor because i would have never picked this for myself, but the media has been a wonderful friend to us in our efforts to protect children from pornography, online sexual predators, cyberbullying, how to be safe, you know, in online gaming, and so that was very healing for me, and its like anything. The media can be used for good, and sometimes they can get a little off track just like the rest of us. I wonder if Monica Lewinsky will feel that way, that shes now using the media for good. Hopefully she will, but its going to take some time for her. I have years ahead of her on this. And i have found in my own experience that it does, and in fact, interestingly enough, and im going to use the media right now, brian, if youll let me. We Just Launched a National Campaign called pornfree wifi, and were urging mcdonalds and starbucks to filter child pornography and pornography from their public Wifi Services like they do very proactively in the United Kingdom and australia and other nations. Thank you very much for being here. Thank you for having me. One more note about bullying and this is about the family of sarah palin. Carol costello took a lot of heat this week and deservedly so for comments she made about the audio released from the socalled palin family brawl. Listen to what she said. This is quite possibly the best minute and a half of audio we have ever come across. Well, come across in a long time, anyway. A massive brawl in anchorage, alaska, reportedly involving sarah palins kids and her husband. Heres Bristol Palins recollection of how it unfolded. Some lady who gray hair who wants to push my little 20yearold sister, im going to defend my sister. Then a guy came out of nowhere. Pushed me on the ground, takes me by my feet, in my dress, in my thong dress in front of everybody. Come on, you [ bleep ], come on. I dont know this guy. I have never seen this guy in my life. If youre shaking your head about the way she handled that news, youre not alone. On thursday, costello issued this apology. Over the past few days, i have been roundly criticized for a brawl involving the palin family. In retrospect, i deserve such criticism and i would like to apologize. Shes not the only tv host expressing regrekt about that day. The palins are presumed guilty. Are presumed to be a punch line, are presumed to be a joke. And there is the very real possibility that something terrible happened to them. And so, yeah, i think we all shot first, and asked questions later. I think we should give the last word here to bristol palin. She wrote this on her blog. I was pushed and held down by some guy. And the media salivates like a dog that has just been given a bone. Violence against women is never okay, even if that violence occurs against conservative women. Coming up on reliable sources a College Woman who turned around to reveal another huge story. The plight of an Investigative Reporter when we come back. Tabl . No. Soup oh soup loaded with vegetables. Packed with taste. Easy like monday morning. S sundays are the warriors day to unplug and recharge. What if this feeling could last all week . With centurylink as your trusted partner, it can. 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Sara ganim won a Pulitzer Prize for breaking open the the Jerry Sandusky scandal that ended joe paternos landmark reign. And now her scoop from january is back in the news this week concerning a scandal in north carolina. She was ooh correspondent for the the patriot and shou now she is a correspondent for us at c nsh cnn. The scoop is the academic fraud scandal which quite frankly, we have known about for several years. And the observer the local newspaper started reporting on it several years ago. And the whistleblowerrs allegations affirmed this week by the university. This e report which is a new investigation which they were quite frankly forced to reopen once all of the National Attention was paid to the university of north carolina. What happened this week is huge. It might be probably is the biggest academic fraud case in the history of college sports. So what was revealed this week that was going on at unc is a really big deal for college sports. Really big deal for this prestigious university. You were there on campus this week, and if i google your name what i will see among other awards is a lot of attacks, and people who claim that you were out to get penn state, and now you are out to get unc, and what is it like to be a young reporter a young female reporter under all of that scrutiny . People feel a great connection to their universities and this passion that sometimes fall to the wayside of common sense. So reporting on it can be rough. I actually hear from a lot of reporters who cover universities like Florida State for example, notre dame is another big example, and i hear from the reporters all of the time who say, how do you deal with this, because the fans can be absolutely brutal. And what do you do, avoid twitter for this reason . Well, this is not the greatest thing for a journalist to acknowledge, but i dont read any of the e replies on twitter anymore, because i have abandoned that practice for a while ago. And i use it as a different tool, but i dont subject myself for the hate. I shield myself in many ways from the, you know, the hatred, because i feel like if you have something to tell me, this is a day and age where in digital age, look, my phone public is public and my email is public and if you have something to say to me, pick up the phone and call me, because im not going to read it on twitter. Views dont know it, but i tried to profile you at the New York Times and you had just joined cnn and the third youngest pulitzer in history and you turned me down can because you did not want to talk to me, but what do you tell journalists who want to be the next sara ganim . What do you tell them to aim . I tell them not to aim too high in the career. I still think that my favorite job is when i worked at a fourperson newspaper, and staff where you could come in where was that . At the new york crime reporter. And there were four people there and support staff and copy editors and four reporters, and you could walk in and say, i want to cover xyz today can, and they would say, do whatever you can, but help get the paper out, and i had a blast. Thank you, sara. I cannot close the show without mentioning ben bradley. His funeral will be this coming week and he died at age 93. He ran the Washington Post longerr than any editor the had been and longer than any future editor ever will. For 26 years, he was the post and the embodiment of the news turning it into a National Power play, and he pushed bob woodward and Carl Bernstein to nail down the watergate story,r and he had their backs when it hastened the nixon white house. There is a page 487 quote that says, put out the best most honest newspaper that you can today can and put out a better one tomorrow. That is what he felt. He was much better practicing it than conceiving the great big important stories. There were important stories written about him this week, and the stories that eulogized him and the the words used over and over again to describe him were hardkrooifing, courageous, fearless, charming. He inspired a whole generation of reporters and editors who are now leading newsrooms of their own. What what might he say if he were running the post today . What might the mantra be . Here is what i think it would be. Put out the best most honest home page you can this minute, and put out a better one next minute. That is all for this televised edition of reliable sources but our Media Coverage continues on cnn. Com. Read more about ben bradlee there. And join us live or set the dvr and join us delayed. The state of the union with Candy Crowley begins right now. This is cnn breaking news. Good morning from washington. Im Candy Crowley. New york, new jersey, and illinois abruptly imposed 21day quarantines on all Health Care Workers returning from west a africa and the first person to be quarantined is a nurse who wrote in the Dallas Morning News about her concern of other workers returning to the u. S. Quote, im scared that like me they will arrive and see a frenzy of disorganization, fear and most frightening, a quarantine. We also heard more from one of the governors that imposed that quarantine, chris christie, the governor of