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It began, Authorities Say, at the electrical fire. Chris . Ivan, unfortunately we have too much experience with what the variables are here. So what do we know about how much equipment they had for emergencies in this mine and what the chance that there are air pocket wheres people can sustain life for a while under ground . What are they saying . Well, chris, the Authorities Say theyre pumping air down into the mine shaft. Of course, thats a big problem. The oxygen supply just disappears when you have an underground fire like this. One of the on the scene, he says that theres no communication thus far with the miners that are still believed to be trapped down there. One of the big concerns is that the Safety Record of this particular mine. Just about 2 1 2 years ago a lawmaker from this region submitted a proposal in the Turkish Parliament calling for an investigation of this very mine because of safety concerns there. It was overturned, voted down in Parliament Just 2 1 2 weeks ago. And now we have again what could be the deadliest mining disaster in turkish history with more than 200 people dead already and serious fears that that number could go up as well. We see a community here that is is clearly devastated by the catastrophe, chris. A big portion of this immediate area works in this mine. Theres going to be every family there that is connected to this situation. Overnight we are watching footage of the rescues. Some of the men coming up are walking, others are on stretchers. What is the information about what the condition were of people they were able to save overnight . The main cause of death that weve heard from authorities thus far has been smoke inhalation. Youre trapped deep under ground. Youre in enclosed space. Theres a raging fire. This morning the fires were still burning. And that, in fact, they had to try to find a way to pump out some of the smoke so that the rescue teams could go in because it could be dangerous for them, as well. So it sounds logistically this is a very difficult and dangerous operation. And the fact that it was an electrical fire suggests that the Power Supplies down to the bottom of the coal shaft, that they were probably interrupted by this fire which would have made it also very difficult perhaps to not only get lighting down there but operate elevators up and down. Were trying to more information from the turkish authorities. Theyve been updating people periodically. The sad thing has been watching the vigil of hundreds of relatives and Family Members not only outside the hospital where some of the wounded who have been rescued have been brought to but also outside the mine itself where the frantic rescue operation is under way. These people waiting, praying for some news that their loved ones will come out safe and sound. But it has been a really horrific night for this community and for turkey as well. The flags are flying at halfmast across this province. Ive seen a massive deployment of riot police, security forces, as well, throughout this area. As some people are starting to get very frustrated and start to hurl accusations just who is at fault in this deadly mining disaster. Chris . Not a surprise. Ivan, ill let you get back to the work of reporting. The idea of a fire in the mine, the experts who do firefightering in these situations will tell you its the worst variable to deal with because of what fire hazards are a give and take. It gives smoke which chokes you out in a closed space and it takes in oxygen which is feeding the fire. Thats a very bad situation for them to deal with. Some hope that theyre getting somes are cues overnight. Well see what they find obviously as today as well. Well continue to cover that throughout the morning. Lets turn to cnn exclusive. Magic johnson responding to Donald Sterling. The nba legend says he felt he had to speak up because sterling made the issue about race, not just about him. After making those racist comments, sterling lashed out at Magic Johnson in a separate cnn exclues i. Saying johnson should be ashamed for contracting hiv and also claiming that johnson hasnt helped or hasnt reached out to the black community. Listen to what johnson told ander son cooper about the bizarre remarks and the picture that sparked the controversy. It was or of disappointing but i had to respond in terms of, okay, you dont want me to come no to your games. I wont come to your games. You dont have to worry about that. But also i was upset because he threw the minorities in, africanamericans, latinos into this situation. So i had to speak up. Im one of the leaders of the black community so i cant let anybody attack our people and not respond. And so thats why i responded. When first of all, you said you were photographed with v. Stiviano, probably photographed with millions of people. Millions of people. He claimed in this interview that i did with him the other day, you knew her, you knew her well. These are the facts. I never met this young lady. I took a picture with her probably, looked like at a dad jer game. Thats it. Thats all i know of her. You know, and then he said im trying to set him up. How am i trying to set him up . He asked me to go on the Barbara Walters show with him. This is a week ago . A week ago. Because he met with Barbara Walters on a friday. It was before that. I told him i wouldnt do it. I said, the number one thing you need to do, which you havent done, is apologize to everybody and myself. Ill get to that. Ill get to that. So he wanted you to go on with Barbara Walters sitting next to him . Sitting next to him. To kind of give him cover . Exactly. So i said no. Then i told him, i said, donald, you should consult with your attorneys. I said, this thing is a big thing. And you should deal with your attorneys and let them advise you on what to do. But i said, you need to go public and apologize to everybody. How did he respond . I, i, i will apologize later but i want you to go on this show. He was adamant about me going on this show with him. I told him no, i wouldnt do it. Thats what happened. This is really weird. Im really disturbed by the fact that, you know, when he called me, he should have said, magic, im sorry. Right. I asked him specifically if he had apologized to you, and he said no. No. No, he didnt apologize at all. It seemed like a surprise to him that he would actually be expected to make an apology to you. Well, hes the one who said, dont bring magic to my games. So, you know, hes the one who made these comments. So i was expecting at least an apology. And the American Public wanted an apology. He finally did that. But this is its sad. When i saw that interview, its sad. It really is. Im going to pray for this young man. I hope donald can see the mistake that he has made and also the people he has hurt along the way. And then whats really sad, you know, its not about me. This is about the woman you love outing you and taping you and putting your and putting your conversation out here for everybody to know. That wasnt me. I didnt do that. I dont know this young lady. This is between you two. But then we he wants to include me. And im not included in this situation. And then he wants to, you know, ask me what ive done, you know, in the minority community. Thats well documented, what ive done. If you think about it the situation is now become even more bizarre because Magic Johnson is completely puzzled as to why he was ever relevant to Donald Sterling. Trying to make sense of it. Bring in malik rose, game analyst for Comcast Sportsnet philadelphia. And mr. Sean gregory, Senior Writer for Time Magazine and time. Com. Whats your take away from this, sean . The Barbara Walters, you know, bequest also known as abc news. That was the most bizarre thing. Magic said Something Interesting at the end when we talk about tend game of all this. It looks like Donald Sterling is going to get pushed out and hes going to get his money. And what does he do with that money . And, you know, anderson suggested, give it to a good cause. Maybe he will do some good with that money. Magic made the point, do we take that money . That gets to larger questions of the Donald Sterling were to set up a Scholarship Fund for minorities he said in his interview, i love to help minorities, do you take that money . And but if you dont take that money, are you denying opportunities, you know, to go to college . Are we going to have a larger conversation about forgiveness at the end of all of this. And who should to get forgiveness though, malik, whats the first rule we teach our kids, to be forgiven you must say im sorry and you must mean it. How dit, how do you make sense of the fact that he calls magic and says i need you to come on tv with me and doesnt even apologize . How do you make sense of that . I dont know if you can make sense of that. I mean, if i was in pr and i had the School People on how to do an interview and how not to do an interview, these two interviews would be cued up 24 hours a day. I dont really understand this Magic Johnson interview actually made me have more questions as to, you know, why not even why but, you know, the lies that mr. Sterling was saying as far as like magic called me. That was one thing i took away from the first Donald Sterling interview when he said magic called me and said dont do anything. I wanted to learn more about that. Now to hear that mr. Sterling was the one that initially called magic and asked him to go on the Barbara Walters abc special, its like par for the course. I dont get what dsonald sterlings thing is with magic. He doesnt know the woman. Hes not making a move on the clippers. He has no relationship with Donald Sterling. Why what do you think is fueling sterlings paranoia about this guy . I think its just, you know, he just cant stop himself. You know, like anderson wasnt taking him to Magic Johnson and then he just started going off on Magic Johnson. I think its Donald Sterling, you know, maybe you can blame, you know, his age or dementia for just kind of having no filter and just going off. Its its unexplanable. Other than the obvious intrigue of scandal that drives interest, there are two big reason and seanous lined them about why you want to follow this story. What do you make of this, why he said why its not tolerable and what it means going forward. Miami dolphins safety talks about the michael sam kiss of his partner haend says its horrible. What happens to him, what do we do when people do things we dont like. The second thing is see what the league does. Malik, what do you think of the fact the owners met yesterday and adjourned quickly and said well meet again next week. Why didnt they have the vote . I have no idea. There could be a litany of reasons why they didnt have the vote. Give me two good ones. Members didnt show up. Maybe all the members didnt show up and they dont have a plan of action. I think the vote is whats probably going to be the easy pa part. Hes going to be out. Lack bash and people start to dig further, good reporters like yourself and Anderson Cooper are going to ask questions and dig into the the background of other owners. Thats just a guess, not what could happen. But this is probably what theyre thinking of. I think the decision is probably made, but after the decision, whats going to happen then. Thats probably what the owners are starting to prepare for. I think there is somewhat of a process here. You have a hearing and theres some back and forth. I also wonder if the nba is trying to delay as much as possible to put some focus back on the basketball. The problem is we keep having interviews and Donald Sterling keeps saying things where were having no focus on the basketball. Process is off and protection. They want to make sure they cover all their bases, perhaps. That meeting next week is going to have a lot of attention no matter what goes on in the playoffs. Much bigger than the game. Its good to have Magic Johnson his piece. He doesnt want to talk about this anymore, he shouldnt have to. But we will. Malik rose, thank you. Sean gregory, appreciate it. We hope you can watch ac 360 tonight. Yes, there is still more youre going to want to see. Also coming up on new day, a preview of what made sterling actually break down in tears. That will be interesting. Kate . Lets get over to don lemon now for todays big stories. Good morning to you. Good morning, everyone. Developing this morning, more bled shed in eastern ukraine. Ambush by prorussian nrns killing six yooukian on thursday as they emerge as a players as a push for peace. Germanys for written minister is in ukraine trying to kick start talks for moscow and kiev. He wants to decentralize the ukrainian government. A wildfire near san diego is almost under control after scorching 800 acres and threatens thousand of homes. It started Tuesday Morning and fanned by strong winds and low humidity in the area. Parents had to pick up their children from three different Elementary Schools because of the fire threat. Officials say those schools will be open this morning. A federal r federal judge struck down a voter approved ban on samesex in idaho. The 2006 amendment defining marriage as between a man and woman violates a states guarantee of equal protection. The decision will not take effect until friday morning giving a higher court time for a review. Idahos governor is vowing to appeal. 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The virus was first detected in saudi arabia and defense secretary chuck hagel arrived for meeting where thermal meters were used to try and detect the virus. A very real risk. Were joined by a clinical associate professor of emergency medicine and chief of depositionment at uvc hospital. Doctor, thanks for joining us this morning. A lot of questions for many people wondering what they need to be aware of, but first, this news coming out this morning about defense secretary chuck hagel goes in to this meeting. They said they used thermal meters to try to look for high body temperature maybe to detect if the mers virus was present. Have you heard of this being used before . Is this something you can see being used in the United States . Sure, weve heard use of this but the efficacy of it is questionable. The problem with mers virus is its no different than any other flu virus where you develop low grade temperature to suddenly developing severe respiratory symptoms. You may be quarantining or thinking a lot of people have mers when they actually dont. Considering that, when you do this in saudi arabia it makes sense because theres a higher potential or possibility of people having mers there. Imp my ming Something Like that in the United States really doesnt make sense. Knowing that the United States defense secretary is entering the meetings, clearly theyll do everything to make sure everyone is careful there. You talked about symptoms being similar to other flu viruses. What are the specific symptoms that are unique to mers . The unique part about mers is that it progresses rapidly and becomes lethal. But the symptoms otherwise are similar to the flu. Fever, cough, shortness of breath. The unfortunate thing is for about 30 of the people who contract this they actually die from this. Thats where the scary part of this virus comes . What is it is it because it progresses so quickly that t its more fatal than other virus snes what is it about mers that makes it more deadly than other virus snes. Thats what has scientists excited about doing the research. Most viruses the human body has been exposed to for thousands of years and understood how to defend itself. Whenever a new virus pops up the medical Community Gets worried. Why . We dont know how the human body will react. Not just one human body but the global population. Its a lock and key phenomenon. If that certain key fits the human bodys ability to unlock its potential for disaster, then were in deep trouble. And this is spread through direct human contact. I heard maybe the one good thing about mers is it is more difficult to contract, it doesnt spread as easily as other viruses. Describe this direct contact. What does that mean practically speak for folks at home . Practically speaking, it smooens means someone really close and taking care of somebody who has contracted the illness which means body fluids, really cough is what were talking about. Respiratory stuff. Somebody is coughing on you, youre getting it on your hands and then youre not washing your hands and youre getting it in your mouth, your eyes, and youre contracting the illness. People at high risk are people taking care of people who have mers, Family Member or Health Care Workers. Thats why the hospital workers are at such heightened risk and hops are now starting to pay special attention to this. Doctor, great to see you. Thanks so much for waking up early and coming in. Appreciate it. Gooded ed advice for everybody. Coming up on new day, it is on. Karl rove suggesting Hillary Clinton may not be he think enough to be president. How would he know . Now, if she runs, wing, wing, will it be a legit question or has the 2016 mud slinging already begun . You can answer that question easily. And shark tank star dallas mavs owner mark cuban, remember, he was the owner of the nba franchise that said Donald Sterling should be able to keep the clippers. To keep the clippers. What does he think now . At any minute. You could be a victim of fraud. Most people dont even know it. Fraud could mean lower credit scores, higher mortgage rates. And not getting the home you really want. Its a problem waiting to happen. Check your credit score, check your credit report, at experian. Com. Americas number one provider of online credit reports and scores. Dont take chances. Go to experian. Com. [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. She can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. My mom works at ge. Welcome back to new day. Im don lemon. Were following breaking news. A mine disaster in western turkey where crews are desperately trying to find survivors. At least 205 people are dead. Another 200 are believed to be trapped about twothirds of a mile below ground. The shaft collapsing and burning after a transformer exploded in the mine. Clean air is being pumped to parts of the mine where there is no fire. And were going to go live to the scene at the top of the hour. Nigerian officials have now positively identified 77 of the kidnapped schoolgirls seen in this video taken by the Boko Haram Terror Group but there are new questions about some of those girls and who they are and whether they were even part of the last months abduction. Meanwhile, u. S. Spy planes have arrived in nigeria and already joined that search. Terrifying scene in upstate new york. Parents looking on as an inflatable bounce house with children inside swept off the ground. Look at that. Wind storm. Two boys inside fell from the house from about 15 feet in the air. They suffered serious injuries and remain hospitalized. A 10yearold girl also inside suffered minor injuries. Some kids fell from week two floors up into the the air. Unbelievable. I never heard this happens. Kate was saying it happens all the time. I dont know if we say all the time but i think its noteworthy when it happens even once, right . Absolutely. But it has happened before. All right. So heres the question for you this morning. Dirty pool, republican strategist karl rove suggest that more needs to be made of Hillary Clintons 2012 concussion and subsequent hospital stay. Heres what he said. 30 days in the hospital and when she reappears shes wearing glasses that are only for people who have traumatic brain injury . We need to know whats up with that. Tuesday mr. Rove backpedalling a little bit saying he never said she had brain damage but her health is still an issue if she runs for president. Listen for yourself. My point was, is that Hillary Clinton wants to run for president , but she would not be human if this didnt enter in as a consideration. And my other point is, this will be an issue in the 2016 race and whether she likes it or not. Whether he likes it or not or whether she likes it or not . Clinton spokesman called the motives behind his comments, quote, flagrant and thinly veiled. Here with us is former Senior Adviser to bill clinton and margaret hoover, cnn political commentator, republican consultant. Margaret, you, full disclosure, you know mr. Rove. You worked with him on 20042005 in the white house but were not pinning this on you. Pin it on me. I see its like a football huddle. Karl rove is drawing in the sand. Im going to carry the the ball on this one. Im going to take this shot and then you can jump in and say how can you say that karl, but then its out there. Oh, my god, thats exactly right. Youre not going to say that. What are we here for . Its working. Its working. And were done. Thanks. Karl rove bumped his head as well. You know. What do you think, margaret . First of all, clearly, that works. But lets also not forget that age is a very reasonable thing to mention about anyones age. You have to be careful when its a female president. This isnt about age. This is age and health, always has to be age. And and this has been raised for Ronald Reagan, bob dole, john mccain, dick cheney. It was so much of an issue for Ronald Reagan that he owned it at every Campaign Stop in New Hampshire in his campaigning he made his 69th Birthday Celebration and by the end of the campaign he actually was seen as more vigorous than jimmy carter because he double downed and owned it. Hillary could take a page from this an not let it hurt her and embrace it and kickback. Do you think its a good what do you think karl rove is doing . Is he doing anything smart . Look, i think you guys i think you guys nailed it. You put it out there. You let karl is crazy like a fox. He raised it with mccain, as well. Crazy like a fox. Theres a difference between richard, weigh in on this. Reasonable basis to question the age, advanced age, health problems. You mentioned dick cheney with all due respect to him and future health. The guy had many heart attacks. Hillary clinton is a relatively young woman in this day and age. 66 years old. 66 is the new 56. Exactly. Or the new 46. Seriously, it is. It is. People are living longer. No one really no one really questions her stamina or her intellect. Shes giving a speech today at the world bank. Including Lindsey Graham. Who else at this time is giving a speech today at the world bank on World Monetary policy. Nobody questions her ability and her intellect and her sharpness. But so now all of a sudden karl rove comes out with this big lie. It is like a big lie. Its the mccarthyism of the internet age where you can put anything out there, make a big lie, make it up about 30 days in the hospital, which is not true, make this thing about sunglasses. I never heard about sunglasses especially designed sunglasses for people with brain injuries. It was totally fabricated. Then he pulse it back and we are having this whole segment on it. And margaret says, of course, age going to be a consideration is its not so bad. Shes a relatively young woman. No issues. If youre going to live in the free world age is a its not just age. Its age, its health, its stamina. Was reagan as robust and vigorous where is the line then . But Ronald Reagan was 80, Hillary Clinton is 66. Almost the same age when he took office. 69. Draw the line, if age at some point is a valid topic, if the health of a candidate is a valid topic, where is the line . The health and age of every candidate is always on the table and should be vigorously reviewed by the community. Shes not a candidate yet. Shes a candidate. Shes a candidate. Does it matter . Does it matter that hes over weight . Were having this conversation so in a way we are legitimizing it. And guess what else were doing . Were allowing karl rove to fund raise for his super pac because were gore to bring more t a tension. Not just for his super pac but do you think does this hurt Hillary Clinton at all . I think it will backfire. I think will it backfire. I think lit hurt republicans and shows how desperate republicans are that they have nothing going on, no candidate. Frontrunner christie is self destructing. Theyve t got to make up stuff. Both jeb bush and paul ryan the other night and jeb bush both of them looked good. The problem is for you guys that jeb bush cannot run and be nominated by the Republican Party. I think he would be a good candidate. I think paul ryans max from the bench press fell. Its amazing, seriously. Republicans do need to be careful because when we have a woman frontrunner on the other side we have to be careful because we make ourselves susceptible to double standards. If were going to talk about her pantsuits im going to light something on fire. Thats a potential land mine, mine field. We are setting ourselves up for another fabricated war on women. President obama will candidate obama then had a tough time talking about race. Will it have the sort of same effect talking about womens issues . Will she walk that tightrope . Shes already done it. The attacks against her and the attacks against sarah palin, many of them were deeply sexist. Whoever is running against her has got to be careful about it. Be careful, we talked about this before on another topic, you have to be careful when she polls even better when she is seen as a victim of something. Shes a victim right now, hoover. Shes a victim right now. I think Hillary Clinton is very strong and doesnt need anybodys defense. 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My friend, it was a wild turn of event in the nba and does not involve the Donald Sterling scandal but it does involve his team. The ok city thunder beat the team. Lets go to this mornings bleacher report. Wow, wow. Tell them what happened. Thats all you can say is wow because what an ending to last nights game. Crazy. Clippers coach doc rivers said after the game his team was robbed. So heres the play that t got rivers so upset. Thunder down two. Reggie jackson loses the ball out of bounds sfp replay looks to show the ball goes off jackson but the refs give it back to the thunder. Moments later, russell wesbrook, chris paul, threepoint attempt. Paul is shocked. Wesbrook hits all three free throws. Thunder steals the win. Rivers is not happy. In my opinion, lets take away the replay system because thats our ball. We win the game. We got robbed because of that call. Turning on bleacherreport. Com, so tomorrow seed in the east. Indiana pacers at home against the wizards with a chance to finish off the series, the polish hammer. Im not sure if that is his nickname but he earned it last night. Grabbed 16 rebounds. Wizards with the blowout win, 10279. More games tonight on tnt. The heat and spurs have a chance to close out their series. Back to you guys. Thank you so much. This morning an nba owner is speaking of sports and the nba, nba owner speaking out about the future of the clippers after Donald Sterlings outrageous comments made on cnn. Mark cuban is the owner of the Dallas Mavericks and prominent businessman as well as investor on the television hit shark tank. Christine romans is joining us now and shes got the interview. He had previously said you have a right in this country to be a moron. Should we be talking about taking a i way the property of someone because of their private conversations. I asked him about that. I said, look, you know, can you take someones property because of what they say . He says, we are a franchise. And you have to play by the rules. Hes changed his tune on this a little bit. Listen. Were a franchise organization. Right . So its not its not apples to apples in taking property. Thats kind of what ive learned since my original comments, you know. Its like the someone who is a mcdonalds franchisee started talking about spitting in the french fries. You would lose your franchise. The mcdonalds analogy is pretty good. Hes really concerned about privacy ands hes concerned that this is a private conversation originally that sparked nfrt, its why he has a new app hes launching called cyber dust. Everything is out there. Theres really no sense of privacy at all. While hes concerned about privacy, he says, no, this is a franchise. Nba is a franchise. He thinks Donald Sterling is a separate case than talking about private conversations should be kept private. He thinks that Donald Sterling should be out. Where does he say the owners are in the process . Hes not talking about the process. He is not talking about the process at all and very tight lipped on that. He wants to talk about pry vas i have and his app. I talked to him a lot about this situation and whats going to happen with the clipper next, what kind of ownership he thinks we could see here and what kind of money he said it could get well over a billion dollars. Valued at 575 million by forbes. Well over a billion dollars. The days of the trophy as set from a billionaire are over. These are consortiums with very wellbacked investors and that the clippers sale is going to mark a new era in that. Listen. Acquiring a franchise has gone from, you know, kind of rich guys regardless of their demographic, or women, right, being able to write a check for a team to it being a consortium. A business deal. Right. You have lots of stakeholders. That changes the tenor of the entire sport. And that will mark a big change, he says, this whole incident marking a big change in that. The trophy assets are over. He said he couldnt buy the Dallas Mavericks now. Did he say in your interview he couldnt even buy some of the teams in the nfl and mlb teams . And mls. He said walking down the streets of new york and people are like, buy the mets, buy the mets. He doesnt want to own a Baseball Team but he couldnt anyway. Its a whole different ball game, literally now, than it used to be. Good to hear his voice on this. Thanks, christine. We got a lot coming this weekend about pry vaivacy on my show. More on mark cubans interview with christine. Head to cnnmoney. Com. Christine will have more on her show your money airing saturday 2 00 p. M. Eastern. Lets take a break here on new day. When we come back, stars behaving badly. Say it aint so. Of course its so. Justin beebe, alec baldwin, both in trouble with the law again and at least one of them isnt going quietly. Look at this. Incredible video. 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Sunny, you be the sword on this. Ill let mel be the shield. I usually am the sword, arent i . I think the charmgs are appropriate. We live in a nonprivate world. Now theres technology everywhere. He didnt have an expectation of privacy out in public. Someone starts taking pictures of him you cant go and try to steal someones phone. You cant do that. And thats what he did. It makes sense that he did it because hes been in so much trouble. He doesnt want anybody taking pictures of his alleged misties but you cant break the law in trying to shield herself. Attempted robbery though, mel . Absolutely ridiculous. Robbery is a serious crime. Usually involves violence. Reaching into a purse does not they are just trying to rough the guy up because theyre sick of him. I dont want somebody reaching into my purse. Im sure you wouldnt. But somebody has got to do something though about the fact that people are making money off the backs of these celebrities by taking tons of photos of them all the time. This is just a fan. I got it. I got it. But this not paparazzi. Hold up. This is fan who wanted to pick photos of Justin Bieber while he was getting trouble presumably not because they wanted them for their scrapbook but you know darn well theres a lot of money to be made when you catch somebody doing something wrong. Mel robbins, reading a lot of facts into the sigsz. You asked me to be the shield, for crying out loud. I dont have much to work with here. You really dont. Does the charge stick . Absolutely. Do you think he gets prosecutes . If i were the prosecutor, absolutely because, again, you have to i think these celebrities, while theyre in the public eye, they seem to think that they are above justice. And that is not the case. The rules a fly apply to us all. Prosecutors are in the business of making a point, make an example, showing the world what is and what is not appropriate. In this case you cant do this kind of thing. I will prosecute the case. Absolutely. I think he should be deforred. If they can hold up deported . She went really far on that one. Hold up lawson for admitting shes done in cocaine and not let her enter. Why is bieber coming in and out of United States whenever he darn well pleases . I mean, to me, one of the things that ive beentalking about thi story is everybody is looking at the Donald Sterling story case and how did this happen and how did he get away with this behavior for so long . People didnt stick it to him every single time he did something small. Prosecutors need to go hard against bieber because if he doesnt be held to the same standard as everybody else, if he doesnt be held accountable for the bad things hes going to continue to get worse. Its not the first time. We had the dui arrest. Is taking a camera from a fan, lets even say an over zell rouse fan, i dont even know with f. Thats true. But is that tantamount to attempted robbery which is usually stopping a mugging in the process. Absolutely. Thats what he did right there. The theft has to be something of no expectation of return. You know damn well youre going to give me those papers back. I love when he puts his legal hat on. Are you overpunishing now . Yes, theyre undulged. Hes a celebrity. What if he gives the camera back . I think perhaps thats different but if he takes the camera and then erases all the pictures, then no. I think its the same thing. There are other charges that could bring because according to tmz and the statement that this woman gave, he was also intimidating them, he was also he said some things that make the 13yearold start crying that was with her, the mother the very action of taking someone elses property by force is attempted robbery and its really assaultive behavior. We say it all the time, bieber is a young man, emphasis on young. The real problem with him does seem to be a celebrity phenomenon of not the right support, not the right guidance as the money and fame eclipsing the maturity for these kids. Lets switch to alex baldwin. Going the wrong way on fifth avenue. This biking thing has gotten to be a big deal in new york city. Theyre making bike lanes, push back against the bike lanes but taken very seriously in traffic situations now because we have a lot of accidents. Alec is going the wrong way. Stopped by the cops. We dont know but we are told that he gets mouthy with him because he doesnt have id. No surprise . They wind up arresting him. Unusual to be arrested for riding the wrong way on a bicycle. But whats the rule of when you mess with the cops . Listen, i used to teach a street law class. I would say, one, you dont break the law, you dont break even ordinances but if you do and if youre in a situation with police, make your Police Interaction as short and as pleasant as possible. He broke rule number two. Well, rule number one and two. You dont break the law by going the wrong way on fifth avenue. A very, very busy thorough fair. Once they give to you and give you a summons you dont say take the summons and stick it up your butt. Alec tweeted about it and he said this. I will read it if we have it. If not ill make it up. New york city is a mismanaged carnival of stupidity that is desperate for revenue and anxious to criminalized behavior once thought benign. A lot of big words in, there mel, but do you think it applies . No. Lets face it. He didnt get arrested for riding the bike the wrong way. Extremely dangerous. Fifth avenue. Three lanes of driving. Going the wrong way which creates a hugely dangerous situation for drivers and pedestrians and for his. He t got arrested because he was a jerk. He got arrested because he did what you should never do. In every single interaction in life you can either escalate the situation or you can deescalate it. Especially with police officers. Theyve got a tough, tough job. The last thing they need when enforcing ordinance or the law is to have somebody mouthing off. I will say this about all lech baldwin, i think he was right with the friends ipad thing. Just throwing it out there. I think he was right. Segue. Tell us what youre talking about. He was on the plane and he was playing words with friends on his ipad and the stewardes or flight attendants were taking it from him. We now all know that is safe and the pilots are using it at the time, it wasnt. This is another example of him not following the rules. My point is, he doesnt follow the rules, but in that respect he was challenging the rules, a rule he thought was inappropriate. Time, place, and management wasnt the best. In this case maybe he doesnt think the ordinance is appropriate but i think he was wrong on this point because driving taking a bike the wrong way on 50th avenue is very dangerous as you mentioned. But its his manner of, i think, trying to confront authority that he has a problem with. Opposition defiance disorder, im going to diagnose him right there. I was dig noagnose with that the guy was a jerk who diagnosed it. Listen, appreciate it. Biebers case much more serious than alec in this. Open invitation, alec baldwin, to come on and explain himself. He has real issues that he feels hes being targeted. Some of the big stories were going to follow for you as you start your new day. Desperate rescues under way after a mine disaster in turkey. Magic johnson fires back at Donald Sterlings bizarre accusations in a cnn exclusive. Wait until you hear what sterling asked him to do after the initial tape came out. And an amazing discovery off the coast of haiti. Listen to this. Explorers think they have found the santa maria. Yes. Yes. Lets get after all of it. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com this could be turkeys worst ever mining disaster. Pumping oxygen to keep these people alive. I made such a mistake. I thought that woman really cared for me. When he attacked me personally, i have to speak out about it. Im going to always fight for myself and for my people. It was clear from the very beginning, we were dealing with emotionally disturbed subject. Good morning. Welcome back to new day. It is wednesday, may 14th. 7 00 in the east. We begin with breaking news. The desperate search for survivors as a mine disaster unfolds in turkey. Right now more than 200 people are believed to be trapped almost a mile under ground. There is word that as many as 200 have lost their lives. Workers have been trying to make rescues throughout the night to get to them. Were 1 2ing some of them in action from overnight. Now, the good news is there have been these homes of hope. This is a father kissing his son after he was rescued but there havent been enough of those moments. Enough for crowds to cheer about as crews are pulling another miner out of here live. These moments very few and far and between. Senior International Correspondent eivan has the latest from soma, turkey. Ivan, what do we know now . Chris, its a race against time here. Were overlooking the mouth and the rescue operation of this griddy coal mine here in western turkey. The government authorities, they say that more than 90 people have been rescued since this electrical fire exploded at depths of perhaps a mile under ground. The death toll has also drinks sent dramatically to at least 205 miners killed as a result mostly of smoke inhalation at these depths where the fire has been raging. With heard as of this morning as well rescuing the rescue efforts. One of the problems, nobody knows exactly how many coal miners were under ground when the fire erupted in the first place. There was a shift change reportedly taking place. So that is complicating matters. The nearby town of soma looks like a town in crisis. Hundreds of people lining the roads. More than 1,000 Security Officers and police who set up barriers, protecting the hospital there. And below us, there are planses waiting, waiting as people here in the hills around this griddy coal mine as they hope and pray for loved ones to emerge from what really has become a coffin for now hundreds of turkish coal miners. Horrible metaphor but unfortunately too close to the truth to be ignored, ivan, because rehave to assume that this mine is a big employer. So many of the families in this small community, somehow related to whats going on in that mine right now. And we do know the big variable is if theres fire underground like this, it is taking away much needed oxygen and giving back smoke that can kill you very quickly. What do we understand from the authorities about where they are in controlling the fires . Pumping air down into the mine shafts since tuesday night to this fire first erupted on tuesday. Now, i talked to a turkish lawmaker who is here overseeing so of the rescue efforts. He says one of the problems is they havent been able to communicate with the hundreds of miners who are still believed to be trapped down below. So thats a major, major problem. He also told me that the fires were still believed to be raging on wednesday morning and hampering the rescue efforts so that they actually had to let off some of the smoke it accumulated down there because the bad air down there would endanger the rescue efforts. And really whats saddest of all here is this isnt the first time the turkey has seen a mine dozens of coal miners died in at least two separate incidents in turkish coal mines in this country and, can you believe it, just 2 1 2 weeks ago a lawmaker whose electorate in this district submited a motion in parliament to investigate reports of safety hazards at this very mine in the Turkish Parliament. That motion was overturned by a majority of Turkish Parliament members, turkish lawmakers. Thats going to be an issue for down the road. Right now people are just hoping again and praying that theyre loved ones again, we dont know how many men are trapped down there, will emerge safe and sound from this terrible catastrop catastrophe. Thank you for the reporting this morning. Lets turn now to Magic Johnson pulling no punches in his rebuttal to Donald Sterlings comments about him in a cnn exclusive. He called sterling delusional. He says he hasnt gotten an apologize and after sterlings accusations that johnson is a poor role model for the Community Johnson said he could not stay silent. He is a man who we would think would be educated and a man who would be smart enough to build this type of wealth and own a team to have an incredible platform to change the world. But hes doing it in a negative way. You know, first of all, 22 years ago i announced that i did have hiv. I came out like a man. You know . I told the world. Because of the hiv virus i have attained, i will have to retire from the lakers today. I didnt blame nobody else. I understood what i did was wrong. Okay . So i announced that to the world. And i hope that i was able to help people in doing that. I think i did. You helped countless numbers of people. Yes, yes. And ive been to hospice, ive been to hospitals hugging people with hiv and aids, you know, before they were dying or people who had didnt know if they could live a long time. I hugged them. I counseled them. I talked to them. I talked to them about taking their meds and not making sure that they stay on their regiment, which is the key. I talked to a lot of young people who just got hiv and was thinking about, you know, committing suicide, you see . And i tried to talk them out of that. And then we have given away over 15 million, my foundation. Magic johnson shouldnt have been included in your conversation because i had nothing to do with this. But because you put me in it again and then you try to disrespect me, the work that ive done in the minority community, that really makes me upset. And then my competitive spirit comes out because ive done all this great work, all the kids weve sent to college and i got 150 kids on scholarship right now. You know. Ive continued to do good work in urban america and i will always do that. Im devoted. My whole life is devoted to urban america. So i just wo wish he knew ths when he was talking. But hes a man who is upset and hes reaching, hes reaching. Hes trying to find something he can grab on to to help him save his team. Its not going to happen. Its not going to happen. This idea that he has that africanamericans somehow dont help other africanamericans. Its disturbing, its sad. He didnt do his homework. Tyler perry called me right after the interview. He was so upset. Spike lee called me. We help each other and what we try to do is band together to see how to better our community. We also give the information, because im successful, tyler is success phi successful, we educate others on how they can become successful. Its not just about giving them money, its about giving them the tools so that they can be successful in the africanamerican community. But the problem is, hes living in the stone ages. He cant make those comments about africanamericans and latinos. He just cant do it. Spike lee last night was saying that hes messed with the wrong brother. Well, you know anderson, im always going to fight for myself and my people. I will never change. So when he attacked me personally i have to speak out about it. Good opportunity for Magic Johnson to speak to the ignorance of the statements that came out in Donald Sterlings interview. It is unfortunate he got hoisted to the middle and yet while it answers some questions it raises new ones because theres more in the interview you havent heard yet with Anderson Cooper. What else did Donald Sterling say . Well, at one point in the interview he becomes very emotional and we want to play that for you. Hes talking about his behavior and manch and whose woman with conversation with sterling got him into this mess in the first place. Watch this. Yes. I think well divorce. I think shes already filed. I guess i was bad committing all of these terrible i dont even want to say it. But, you know, people say how do you commit adultery . You justify things. You say, well, every man in paris or france has a mistress. I mean, it may make you smile but when youre so hold you dont think its wrong anymore if you have a little bit of fun. You dont have much time. If you have a little bit of fun you cant do what you did before and nobody expects but you want to be cared for. Everybody wants to be cared for. I made such a mistake. I thought that woman really cared for me. So lets bring in charles from New York Times and cnn commentator, host of the slate podcast the gist with mike peska. All right. Let me put something out there for you. Start with you, mike. This is an 81yearold man. He has been given no excuse for his age, for his generational perspective and for whatever deteriorated state emotionally he may be in. Do the tears evoke any sympathy in you for where hes coming from and making these mistakes . It made me think of the word pathetic. Originally with the statements i was saying to myself and to people who asked, pathetic but it was more of a smearing i cant believe this guy, i cant believe this jerk. Now i dont know if its sympathy but theres a sadness to it all. I dont think any of it changes the underlying facts but this is one of those things where we have a huge blowup, a huge lets all listen to a tape or lets all listen to a moment and there have been so many, biden uses the word clean or georged a len says macoco and we go crazy about it. Now were seeing this as a little more complicated. I dont know if its changes the prescription from nba commissioner adam silvers perspective this guy still needs to lose his team, from all the players in the nba, same thing. I look at him and he maybe a malfactor, might be able to do evil in the world and his opinions might affect millions of people. But this is a pathetic, pathetic man. What do you think of Magic Johnsons response, he was dragged into this. He didnt ask to be part of this conversation. He felt like he needed to respond, especially after Donald Sterling said to anderson. I think it was right for him to respond. I think he was gracious in the way he responded. I think he is kind of a blueprint for how you can respond to people who are being racist and who attack you personally. I think magic it was a great thing that magic did and the way that he did it because he didnt have to be as gracious as he was in the way he treated sterling. And i think that even if you have this to sterling, even if you are inclined to forgive, which i think people make mistakes and they should be able to apologize for that and so you can decide to forgive or not, it doesnt erase the beliefs that he has. It doesnt alter the facts of the case. He said what he said and what he said was racist and that is the only way to describe it. We cannot play around with the definition of what he said. It does not alter it. What i had been saying is that usually racism is more subtle, quiet, and i would say lurking beneath the surface. In this case behind the door which is of his home. But you dont usually see it brought out like this. This holds up a mirror for people like Donald Sterling, people who are defending him. Now you see once he actually steps in front of a microphone, what he said in front of the microphone is worse than what he said in private. Worse in a way but it hints at a certain, i think you us idea the right word, subtlety and sophistication, which is that we sometimes want to believe that bias is joined together with malice. That the only way one can be racist is that you loath the person or the group to which you are being racist toward. That is not the way that it always works. Sometimes people can be quite benevolent to the people who are less than them. In fact, in the interview with anderson he goes on about how he gives to my jorities. A lot of people do that. With within philanthropy there is still racism because people say these people are less than me and i give and it absolves me of my kind of beliefs. You have to figure out what the teachable moments are here now, right, theres a bar of relevance. Going to keep talking about it there has to be intrigue. Two levels. One you have what i would argue, matters more. What do we do with how we view this type of speech and how we put consequence on this type of speech. And then of course theres looking at the league and what are they going to do and this mixed signal yesterday of the owners meeting but not voting and and journing. Well, youve said all along it should be a teachable moment and it should be. You do wonder if the people who need to learn the lesson are listening. No, no. Because it will change another Donald Sterling. Before you guys because no one wants to be called a racist. I have never met anyone Donald Sterling does not believe hes racist. He doesnt believe hes raci racist. Have you ever met anyone who says, oh, im a reyes iacist . Yes. Sometimes theyre proud of it. What is racism . What is, you know, what is this desk and you, go well, you know, its plexiglas, its whatever. But what is racism . Your acceptance of the title doesnt change the definition of the title. Great point. I dont need you to acknowledge the fact that youre a racist. What do you do once its out there . You said what he said in this interview is worse than on the tapes. Were talking about the thanks that he did. What about the things that he did . What about the things that he did when he was trying to build housing and exclude black people and hispanic people and families from the housing . And the nba was pretty much blind to it and they didnt take it on until they had this opportunity to, you know, lower the broom on him because of these tapes. This flash point of the tape. Its all a teachable moment. What Magic Johnson said was great. No one is going back and talking about, what about the fact that we have systematically this guy in our midst and we did nothing about it until the flash point. What do you do . Its easy to attack one person who is so blatant. I think you take the to tallity of what Donald Sterling has said in the interviews that hes given. Not only has he said racist things, he has said sexist things, horribly sexist things. Hiv aids. Shaming with horrendous in this. I dont know what Magic Johnsons legacy will be when he dies. He was a fantastic baseball player, fantastic businessman. But what he has done on lifting the profile and alleviating stigma around hiv and aids and what you can do postdiagnosis, you can have a family and have a career, it does not have to define you. If you take your meds, you can live a happy and healthy life. People need to hear that because a lot of people dont get tested because they are afraid of the stigma and if you have someone like sterling who is, himself, saying that he has done things outside v of his marriage kind of chastising Magic Johnson for doing whatever he did that might have led to hiv and aids and acting as if that becomes a character disease rather than a regular disease like any other disease in america. Sanitizing you put on it. Allow it to be out there. Say what he said. Correct the false assumptions and hope it makes People Better going forward. I felt bad that Magic Johnson felt the need to come out. He did good by doing that. He did it the right way. He did good for america by doing that. Remaining question becomes, what will the league do and when . They met yesterday, the owners. They did not have a vote. Could be good reasons for that. Donald sterling still thinks he can wait out the storm. It has happened before. Let the season, let the playoffs and then they will attack that problem. As long as they keep their urgency because theyre going to be very measured by what they do. Im not saying what they should do. Charles, mike, thank you very much. Appreciate the talk this morning. We, of course, will have more of what Magic Johnson has to say throughout the morning. You can also hear more from mr. Donald sterling in his exclusive interview with Anderson Cooper. You have to watch that on ac 360 tonight at 8 00 right here on cnn. I want to tell you about other news. A bizarre scene in baltimore when a man claiming to be god smashed a stolen landscaping truck into the lobby of a local tv station. The incident had reporters at the station scrambling to cover their own story. A frightening scene. This stolen landscaping truck smashing through the lobby of a tv station in baltimore, ramming the building over and over before crashing through. All of a sudden, glass is breaking. And theres a truck coming in through the front lobby. Reporter minutes before the crash the unidentified man is seen on Surveillance Video trying to enter the station. He then heard a person screaming, let me in, let me in. The person then began to scream, let me in, im god, im fing god. Reporter this oklahoma video showing moments that forced the lock down and whack investigation evacuation and nearby school. In an edit room he was found watching his own story on tv. It was clear t from the very beginning we were dealing with an emotionally disturbed suspect. Reporter the suspects family immigrated from haiti. His mother says after high school he started using drugs and hanging out with the wrong crowd. I dont know. I dont grow up like that. I have three kids. I work so hard to get him here. Reporter the suspect was arrested without incident some five hours after crashing into the building. A terrifying scene the stations workers wont soon forget. The man was taken in for psychic evaluation before he was faces those criminal charges. Again, he went to the wrong station. They didnt have a noon broadcast. They were going to when they found that he was watching the broadcasting itself. Yeah. Thanks, don. Unchecked Mental Illness on display. Yeah. Huge problem. Sad. Lets turn to meteorologist Indra Petersons keeping track of the forecast. Indra, still watching the storm. Still watching it making its aacross the country. This is the same system that brought heavy snow to colorado and intersecting with that warm moist air in the gulf. Look at all the activity spreading farther to the east. This is how we look at it in the meteorologist world. Light shape of a u. Now its shifting, coming to a negatively tilted trough. Cold air is above warm air. It wants to flip badly. We have the threat for more Severe Weather with the system. Anywhere from cleveland to pittsburgh stretching out of the way back down through jackson, mississippi. The threat for more Severe Weather today. Even going into the night hours overnight tonight. Thats when you want to be careful. Heres the other side of this. Dry in the west and moist in the east. Its moving more to more and more moist air. Were going to talk about all that moisture fueling into an area of Severe Weather. Heavy thunderstorms are expected and heavy ams of flooding. Two to three inches around the gulf. Three to five inches into the atlantic and up towards new york and the northeast. Were going to talk about heavy rain over the next several days. Other side of it may have noticed in the mid wall street that huge temperature drop the last several days. 20 to 30 degrees cooler yesterday. That cold air is spilling farther into the east as the cold front makes its way farther to the east. Not too bad in new york city. 71 in d. C. 75 today. Temperatures will drop once the cold front makes its way in. Its not only going to be cooler, its going to be kind of rainy. When i say kind of rainy, rainy a lot. A lot. A lot. Thanks, indra. Thats the chris not happy. Coming up on new day, rescue and recovery under way after a fire in a turkish mine leaves workers trapped. Hundreds trapped. Is there hope for their survival . What are the variables . Were going to talk to the man who helped rescue the chilean miners in 2010. A similar situation in terms of the challenges. And also ahead, is karl rove waging a Smear Campaign against Hillary Clinton . New attacks against the potential 2016 candidate. But is all fair in Political Warfare . Well discuss as we take you inside politics. Scott okay, neighbors, heres the topdrawer skinny. Scotts wraps each seed in a brilliant water smart plus coating, that feeds, protects, and holds in moisture to make growing thicker, healthier grass easier. Now lets spread your newfound knowledge seed your lawn. Seed it when folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. 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Out of turkey this morning, rescue crews desperately trying to reach 200 coal miners trapped under ground after explosion and fire there. Joining us is someone who knows a lot about mine rescues. James helped drill the escape shaft in the rescue effort of the chile an mian miners in 201. I want to lean on your expertise here from your experience with the chilean mine disaster. When you understand the little were getting out of turkey so far, what is the first thing that they need to focus on in their rescue efforts . Well, definitely im sure they have a good emergency plan for this kind of situation as most mines should have one. Theres usually an Emergency Response team that comes into play. And im pretty sure from what i hear this is a pretty good size mine. So i would think they have a lot of Safety Equipment under ground that can maybe, you know, hopefully always have to hope for the best and hope that theres still a lot of people there. One of the things you dont want to give up, you dont want to give up. We never gave up on our side. You know, we didnt know what was going on down there at about 2,000 feet below ground. I think what really helped is we had a lot of hopes to even if we could find one person alive, it was worth the effort. I think that in chile the miners survived 69 days under ground, you remember very well, better than anybody. In chile theyre also dealing with a cavein. In turkey theyre dealing with an explosion and electrical fire of some kind. How does that change the dyna c dynamic . That definitely changes things. When you have a cavein you hope that miners were not exactly where the cave actually occurred, which was a case here in chile. They were likely able to get into a place where they were safe. It was just a matter of hanging in there until we could get down there and drill and find them. In this case here where you have fire involved it makes things a lot tougher. Create a lot of Carbon Monoxide and that can have an affect on people down there. I think here time is more of a pressure problem than it was in our case, for sure. Time is definitely a factor here. They were trying to eject a layer in there which is good. If you have fire, oxygen helps the people but it can also cause the fire to ignite even more. So youve got to be real careful with that, too. How do you take that into account then . We hear from the rescue efforts on the ground that they are trying to pump air into the mine shaft to try to help anyone who is down there. There is still some 200 believed to be missing. You say that can also carry risks. How do you balance that . What do you you do . Well, im sure they got hopefully enough information to realize what areas they can inspect air in to. If theres no fire in a certain area you kcan inject air in there. That will definitely help. As time goes by, the air is what really gets to be a problem down there when youre trapped and getting fresh air in there can definitely help the people out to where they can survive a lot longer. So air is definitely a good option but you just got to be careful not injecting air where theres still a fire. The chilean miners, if i remember correctly, they were down a little also than half a mile. The miners in this case, they believe could be about twothirds of a mile or up to a mile below the surface. That seems to obviously pose much more additional challenges. How do you take that into account if youre trying to get down there . Well, its a different situation in our case it was a collapse and we just couldnt get anywhere close. We have to drill a hole from the surface. Im not sure what all the details are in this mine here. But you know, if you can this is a pretty good size mine from what i can understand. If you can get close to where the fire is, you dont have to drill a hole from surface. You might be able to reach the miners through the inside which can sometimes make it a little better but youve got to be real careful if you dont, you know, that you dont send people in there and then have your rescue people get trapped in there. So a lot of planning, a lot of you need a lot of information so you can make the right call. The more information you have, the Better Options of making the right decisions and hopefully getting them out in time to try to get some people out alive. And thats, you know, thats the name of the game. We never gave up. And after 69 days, like you say, we were able to get all 33 of them out alive. No one will ever forget that moment when that first miner and last miner all made it out of that chilean mine alive, due in large part to your ability to drill that hole. James stephanic, thank you very much. They can only hope to have similar outcome in this case. Time is working very much against them in this case. James, thank you very much for your time. Chris . Happening right now, and we will go there throughout the morning and let you know whats happening. Right now we take a break though on new day. When we come back, karl rove suggests Hillary Clinton may have brain damage. Some in his own party are telling him to stand down, but it is now being discussed by me right now and others, so is it dirty pool well played or legitimate question . Smart talk ahead on inside politics. And its been missing for more than half a millennium. Did a team really find the boat Christopher Columbus sailed to the new world . Youre going to hear from the man who says he found it. Really. So our business can be on at ts network for 175 dollars a month . Yup. All five of you for 175. Our clients need a lot of attention. Theres unlimited talk and text. Were working deals all day. You get 10 gigabytes of data to share. What about expansion potential . 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Happy wednesday. Lets go inside politics. Day two of karl rove raising Hillary Clintons health issues. Here to join me the guiliana and peter hamby. Karl rove was at a conference in california. The New York Post had a headline suggesting he raises the question of whether Hillary Clinton has brain damage. Lets watch yesterday where karl rove said he didnt go that far. Reporting though in the post he sands that he did say she was wearing glasses after a hospitalization a couple years ago that people with traumatic brain injuries or, so he apparently raised traumatic brain injury. Didnt use the specific term brain damage. You cover the white house every day. Lets listen to jay carney who went back to Election Night 2012 suggesting if anyone was having memory issues or brain issues maybe it was karl. Dr. Rove might have been the last person in america on Election Night to recognize and acknowledge that the president had won the reelection, including the state of ohio. Well leave it at that. I remember that night very well. Karl was a little behind the curve on the math in ohio there. There are a lot of democrats grumbling that karl rove did exactly what he wanted to do here. That lets say lets take him at his word. He didnt dwrusz brain damage but he did say traumatic brain injury so everyone is talking about this. Hillary clinton was going to be asked anyway. Anybodys health when you run for president , whether youre 36 or 66 is fair game. This little planting a little dirty seed . A little sarcasm from the podium yesterday. But what with i thought was interesting was how jay carney used the dr. Rove line hours after you heard that same line from the clinton camp. So again, it shows one of the reasons why the clinton camp jumped on this and felt that they needed to respond to this so quickly, because they know that her health issues, that this particular episode is something thats going to come back that shes going to have to answer to. Im sure the clintons are angry about this but if im a republican im thinking about running against her, im also probably angry about this because it takes, again, what is a legitimate issue. Its not ageist or sexist to talk about a candidates health if theyre run for president of the United States. But it pushes it into con sp conspiratorial territory and hillary has always gone up in the polls and been successful when shes perceived as being under attack. Shes in d. C. For an event today, two events today. Bill clinton is in d. C. For a fundraiser in the maryland governors raise. Do the clintons fire back . Do they take an opportunity here . I best for them to let this go and let other people from the white house podium deal with this because what theyre doing now is turning this into a story about karl rove and undermining his credibility and ability to make this argument. This terms of the daytoday news cycles i think youre going see bill clinton and Hillary Clinton stay above the fray as much as as long as they can until she actually has to engage when she gets close to campaigning or jumping . She has that dry midwestern sense of humor. Watch her today as she finds some underhanded way to sneak it in because she wants to. The question is whether she thinks its the best thing to do. We talked a lot this year about the tea party losing. The tea party was celebrating overnight because of an Nebraska Senate race, ben sass. He was running against candidates favored by the republican establishment. He won pretty convincingly. Some people are saying, wait a minute, this guy went to harvard, went to yale, studied at oxford. How can he be a pitchfork tea party guy. Every Group Affiliate with the tea party was having an tarzan moment. We finally won, we won. We ted cruz said this is a victory. Byron york of the Washington Examiner calls mitch mcconnell, the guy ted cruz hates. The establishment, and says, im with you. Ill support you. Did the tea party win and then immediately lose . Look, i think you say this is a win for the tea party. They are going to get a very intelligent capable, conservative in the u. S. Senate. But, youre right. He has made a mends with mitch mcconnell. They had a little bit of a flame war a few months ago. Look, his campaign put out a statement after his advisers put out a statement after the primary results last night saying this guy is not going to be a reflexive no vote in the senate. I think what youre seeing here is just a little bit of conservatconserv conservatives realize that they have cooped a little bit of the establishment and not vice versa and they will enact whatever legislation they want. I just had a sense the establishment won by losing lastst last night in the sense that ben sasse calls mitch mcconnell. Mcconnells primary is next week in kentucky. Some talk that maybe eric continuer in virginia has a tea party challenge. The tea party is wing by losing in a sense you dont see republicans saying lets pass immigration reform. Almost all republicans have tacked right. One thing the democrats are looking at as you head into the general elections is whether or not you have the antagonism and anxieties that created the Tea Party Movement within the Republican Party and whether or not the ted cruz, the lee supporters of the tea party antiestablishment republicans are going to rally around these establishment candidates and whether or not theres going to be the Field Organization to get them out as well. Mitch mcconnell wants 51 votes. Thats what he wants most of all so hes the majority leader. One of president obamas nominees for judicial was on capitol hill today. You tell me, do you want to go inside politics . Whats wrong with this picture . For my vote, i have to have certainty and i dont know quite how to get it in view of this record. I felt that that you gave me that you gave me a little slightly misrepresentation of your record on this. Im sure our morning inside politics viewers get this. Those were democrats. Those were not republicans grilling a president the democratic president s nominee. Michael boggs is his name. Democrats have concerns about his views on abortion, views on gray gaye rights, twice voted to keep the Confederate Flag on the state legislature. Did the white house not do this . Did they not do enough work with the white house to get the support . I heard from two this morning that said that he has bipartisan support. They indicated that ultimately he is going to get through but hes going to need all the republicans and two democrats on the judiciary committee. Look, this is emblematic of the larger problem the president has had with progressives in the judicial nominees. They think he has been too willing to compromise. You would think he could get thoou through the progressive judges but still hes nominating conservative judges. It shows they havent mastered the nomination process here. In the state of georgia in particular where they think they can pick up a senate seat, might be competitive in the judges race. This timing is bizarre. Georgia is a tough state when youre a democrat. You cannot alienate that africanamerican base, especially around atlanta. At the same time, you do have to pick up votes in the rural parts of the state. This is a real balancing act. And you risk inflaming one side or the other with this for sure. Thanks so much. As we get back to you guys in new york we started with karl rove. You knew this was make the late night funny. This morning, david letterman. I tell you something. That karl rove better be careful of what hes talking about because karl rove saying somebody else has brain damage, yeah, take a look at this and then well talk about it. You know, with every little piece of tape thats there, so, you know, you dont have to say anything about that. No, you dont. I think we should comment on ken strickland, one of our good frentsds, he was in the background. He has way better moves than that. He was not offering up some good moves right behind karl rove there. David gregory, good moves as well. That was a spasm that was going on. 4yearold nephew, the way he dances, jumping up and down. Its always best advice, i believe. If youre a politician, avoid karl rove or a strategist, avoid the dancing in public. It just always comes back to bite you. Yeah. And especially now, you know, that was recorded with a big camera. Now we have the fun little things, too. No. Not doing that. One of the few things that can make karl rove sympathetic is that dancing. I have john king dancing. John king has good dance moveses. Who is john king . John king has no dance moves. Coming up on new day, it has been under water for more than five centuries. Has the boat Christopher Columbus himself sailed to the new world finally been found . The santa maria. We have the investigators who think they found it. Thats next. Ions come over to mission a for a final go. This is for real this time. Step seven point two one two. Verify and lock. Command is locked. Five seconds. Three, two, one. Standing by for capture. The most Innovative Software on the planet. Dragon is captured. Is connecting todays leading companies to places beyond it. Siemens. Answers. woman this place has got really good chocolate shakes. growls man thats a good look for you. woman that was fun. man yeah. man let me help you out with the. woman . Oh no, i got it. man you sure . woman just pop the trunk. man vo i may not know where the road will lead, but. 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The key to the riddle is the distance that columbus described in his diario, which was transcribed on where he built his fort. He said the day after he wrecked his ship that they fit a fort on land. And he said that that was a league and a half, which is 4. 7 miles from navidad, the fort. Someone is telling me exactly where to look except the fort that previous historians and explore weers how did they know it in haiti . Because its in columbus dario. This is really the only thing thats existed in the dario. The riddle of the dario is solving the dario, solving columbus words because he was writing this knowing that the queen and the king would be dissecting every word when he came back. And if he made a mistake he had to cover himself in the dario. Theres a lot of confusion. I get the whole da vinci code thing. Its exciting. Why did he think he was here and he was here. Because he drew a map. Its the only thing that exists today, is the map that columbus drew. And he says, navidad on that map. But thats, you know, a rough drawing. What do you think . Weve got the red zone. Thats the search area. Based on what he said . No. Navidad, according to previous explorers, includinged win link and Samuel Elliott morrison, the great historian from harvard, thought it was here. So they extrapolated a distance of a league and a half, which is 4. 7 miles. An arc. And everywhere from approximately list distance, lets say they search fred here to here. Thats where they felt the ship was. Except, except thats not where navidad is. Dr. Kathy deegan from the university of florida expedition with us in 2003 discovered are where navidad is. Two miles further to the west. So when you extrapolate a league and a half out into the bay of caphaitien, exactly a league and a half from navidad, and well beyond anything else, we found a pile of stones. What youre looking for this is not nuclear physics. We look all over the world under deep can i go . Yeah. Youre under water. Searching around. What do you see . Ear lookiwere looking for a of stones that like fell out of the dump truck. Stones from the Iberian Peninsula do not belong on top of a coral reef. Something about the size of two football fields. Take yankee stadium, dump a big giant pile of stones in the middle of it, its not comp my t indicated. Its not buried in sand. Its just understanding what columbus said. Why were the iberian stones on the santa maria . Because the ship was built in spain. There were stones used to build ships . No, the stones were put in the bottom of the ship. Several tons of stones were put in the bottom of the ship for balance. So you get down there. Do you find the stone snsz what do you think you found that makes you found it . This object parallel to the stones looks like a tube. Its open at both ends. Shazam what do you think it is . I know what it is. What is it . Well, originally it was misdiagnosed by our Archaeological Team and it looked like a tube. My son brandon, the first one to dive on the wreck in 20003 said, dad, theres a really old looking cannon. Cannon. And then it was mist misdiagnosed as a tube. Make a long story short, the site was aboandoned. We went to another location. Went several weeks working on it. It turned out wrong. In 2012 i woke up in the middle of the night after studying 15th century armory and went, oh, my god. Long bars are open at both ends. Whats that . A cannon. And the smaller end here which is where the cannonball exits from. This end is where the cannonball and gunpowder is loaded. Behind that is what you call a breach pin. You put the cannonba nanonball gunpowder into the longbard. You put a brace behind this. This is on top of a gun carriage and the gun carriage has a wheel. Okay . This is i think theres been less than a dozen of these lombards found in the western hemisphere. What are this chances the its going to be exactly the distance that columbus described from in his dario. He also said that there were huge sets ofdescribed. He write they were only there seven days. They would have written, because they would have been smashed. But there is a little sandy spot between the breakers and columbus also described that the ship went aground so quietly in the middle of the night. Sandy bottom. Right . Youre hired. I feel good about it. Strong. Thats exactly im sure i know youre i know youre buddies too. So they have so he comes aground. And at 11 00 at night, they all go to bed, because they felt confident they had been up for a couple days before, partying. Columbus said the water was calm, water in a bowl. Everybody went to bed. Something columbus never did. They turned the ship over to the ships buoy. And one hour later at exactly midnight on christmas eve, the traditional moment of the christian saviors birth, a ship named for the mother of christ, captained by a mans name who means cross bearer or christ bearer, wrecks in the new world. So quietly, it didnt wake anybody up. Sand. Thats exactly where we found these 15th century artifacts. Again, if this is the math on this is overwhelming. Whats the chance of finding a lombard . Small. A wheel actually, another wheel and then a very large wheel that was used to transport cannons on land. This is fascinating. I had to hear the story, amazing. And i want you to come back when we get the next chapter of what youre able to bring up and verify. This is so cool. Great to see history being made and have man with us here. Thank you so much. Pleasure is ours. Riddle of the dario. I know, right . The riddle of the dario, kate. It remains a riddle. 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Theyre battling not understanding where the trapped miners are. And, of course, theyre battling time. Lets bring in senior International Correspondent, ivan watson. He has the latest on the scene in soma, turkey. Ivan. Reporter chris, this is the gritty coal mine where this race against time is underway. According to turkish government statistics, more than 90 miners have been rescued from beneath the mountain since this fire broke out during a shift change, deep beneath the surface of the earth on tuesday. But according to the turkish prime minister, who has cancelled an International Trip and just visited the scene here, the death toll has now tragically grown to 232 miners killed as a result of this fire. It is clearly one of the deadliest mining incidents in turkish modern history. Now, the fire broke out, were hearing, at depths of perhaps more than a mile beneath the surface, and of course, one of the biggest causes of death, were hearing thus far is as a result of smoke inhalation, Carbon Monoxide poisoning, because, of course, the supply of clean air runs out. The Authorities Say theyre trying to pump clean air into there, but as of this morning, were hearing from a turkish lawmaker that fires were still raging there, and blocking rescue workers from being able to reach down into there. And we dont even have concrete figures of how many workers were down there when the fire first broke out. So this is hitting the community here in these mountains of western turkey hard. In the nearby city of soma, there are quite literally thousands of residents lining the streets behind Police Barriers outside the main hospital, desperate for news about their missing loved ones. Well be keeping a very close eye on this desperate situation. Chris . Just about all the families there, and somehow connected to whats going on deep underground. We understand that theyre shooting oxygen down there, air down there, but they dont really know where the fire is, so they dont know whether theyre feeding the fire or feeding the trapped survivors. What are they telling you about the level of optimism . Reporter one lawmaker, i said, he really fears this death toll will continue to grow. And, of course, the people who have gathered on the hills around here in these woods, its dusty, its dirty here. The size of this operation is massive. Entire tops of mountains have been removed by what has clearly been an operation going on for years, if not decades here. You can just see the anxiety on peoples faces. Theyre pratt to find out their loved ones will emerge from this. And here is the really sad thing here, just about twoandahalf weeks ago, chris, a lawmaker from this region had fired a motion in parliament to investigate reports of safety hazards at this very mine and that motion was overturned by a majority of lawmakers in the Turkish Parliament. Who knows, maybe things could have been different if it had been approved. Chris. If people dont make it out of that mine, as that starts to spread and anger starts to grow, theyre going to be dealing with a different kind of explosion there, especially specifically those lawmakers. Ivan, thank you. Well check back in with you. Kate . Thanks, chris. Also this morning, new fears. A mysterious and potentially deadly virus is spreading notice the United States. About 20 Health Care Workers in orlando may have been exposed to mers, short for middle east respiratory syndrome. The concern there comes after Health Care Workers treated a patient with the virus. Two of the workers are undergoing further testing right now after showing symptoms. The virus was first detected in saudi arabia, and defense secretary you see there, chuck hagel, he arrived this morning for a meeting where thermal meters were used to try and detect the virus. Clearly, theyre taking this very seriously. Were joined now by dr. William shatner, dr. At vanderbilt medical center, focusing on preventative medicine. Thank you for taking the time this morning. We know that the World Health Organization is on alert, taking this seriously. We know just talked about those 20 Health Care Workers who may have been exposed. How concerned should people be, especially if theyre heading to the hospital . Well, actually, fortunately, this is not a virus that is spread readily in the community. It is spread in the context of providing health care. Thats very important. And it has occasionally spread in saudi arabia from one Family Member to another. It requires close, constant, over time exposure. So the average person in the Community Need not be exposed. But its important to use good Infection Control precautions when caring for such patients. Lets talk about what that means for the hospital and then lets talk about what that means for the individual. You say it takes close persontoperson contact. The concern is that if this is brought over from overseas, that we could be seeing really the first transfer within the United States, because of persontoperson contact. How do hospitals, especially Emergency Rooms, that really are the first line of defense, how do they need to be operating differently . What do they need to do with this information . Well, for the last two years, since weve had mers in the middle east, emergency room personnel, Infectious Disease doctors such as myself and others, have been alert. Anyone who comes in with respiratory symptoms is asked right away, have you traveled or have you had contact with someone who has traveled to the middle east. If the answer is yes, you put that person in isolation, get specimens, send those to the cdc for further testing. That system is working. These two patients that had come to the United States from saudi arabia and became ill were detected really quite quickly. And were put in isolation. Now we do have some exposed patients, Health Care Workers, that is, in orlando. And theyre now being watched very carefully. And doctor, the thing that is so scary about this, while it does require close contact in order to contract the virus, it also, we know that its in 30 of the cases when youre infected, that can be fatal. Thats what is scary about this for everyone watching at home. What do folks need to know . How can they be careful. How can they protect themselves from this . Well, lets just emphasize. This is not a virus that spreads readily in the community. We had the importation in indiana. There is no spread there. So far, were monitoring people in orlando. People around the country who work in Emergency Rooms are alert to this. Thats what people ought to know. The system is working. Public health was immediately notified. Theres good collaboration to monitor those folks in orlando. The system is working very well at the present time. And in order to just in general, what should folks know . Since it is in the family of the sars virus, something kind of related to the cold, is it this unfortunately, there is no Silver Bullet in how to protect yourself 100 of the time for any of this stuff. Does it get back to simply being diligent about washing your hands . Oh, washing your hands is always very good. Avoiding people who are coughing and sneezing. And, of course, if youve traveled to an area of the world where mers is active and you become sick, immediately let your doctor know about that. Absolutely right. Thats always the scary thing is that the symptoms start off as something similar that we always are used to, and its where youve been is when you need to be concerned of what could happen next. Dr. William shatner, thank you very much for your help in understanding what to do and what to watch out for. Appreciate it. Lets get over to don lemon now in for michaela. Thank you very much. We want to tell you about a frightening scene for some parents in upstate new york. And it all happened in their own backyard. Three children in an inflatable bounce house were swept away by a wind storm while playing inside. Look at this. Look at this terrifying photo. That blue dot soaring high is an inflatable balloon house. Neighbors say a gust of wind blew the bouncy castle in upstate new york right off the front yard. Three children playing inside were sent flying two stories into the sky. Soaring over a stretch of trees and this apartment complex. The first little boy came out, landed in the middle of the road right there. And then the other little boy came down, hit his head off the back of my car right there, and then he landed on the ground. A 10yearold girl escaping with only scrapes. The two boys still hospitalized. One reportedly suffering two broken arms, and the other a serious head injury. His face and whole front of his body was covered in blood. This isnt the first time the Birthday Party favorites have been sent airborne. Back in 2011, a heavy gust of wind blew this inflatable slide like a tumble weed, flying across a long island soccer field and landing on a crowd below, injuring 13. That same year in tucson, arizona, wind whipped this bouncy castle up in the air at a fifth grade graduation party, wrapping it around a light pole. Horrified neighbors of this accident say the castle was assembled correctly and staked into the ground. Chkt the parents were out there too. And anything that could have been done wrong wasnt. Everything was done properly. So the company is called little times, maker of the bounce house and issued a statement providing safe and wholesome play experiences is of utmost importance to little times. We are looking into what happened, and our thoughts and prayers are with the children and their families. And as kate was saying, this does happen. Scary. It is. And its just air and plastic. When the wind gets it its a big balloon. Its a big balloon. Exactly right. And theyre very popular. I had them as a kid. I remember we had them at our house as a kid, too. Almost every other weekend during birthday season. Kids love them. Careful. I love them. Ooh. Chris in one of those things, now, thats a hazard. Keep it down, thats for sure. Ballast. Thats what i was going to say. Coming up next on new day, Magic Johnson the target of Donald Sterlings racist rants and then another attack right on cnn. What does he have to say to the clippers owner . Well show you in that exclusive interview with Anderson Cooper. And is Hillary Clinton hiding something about her health . Or does karl rove just want you to think that . Were going to tell what you he said and what it could mean in 2016 or what it would mean about how we clean up politics today. We asked people a question, how much money do you think youll need when you retire . Then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. I was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. Im going to have to rethink this thing. Its hard to imagine how much well need for a retirement that could last 30 years or more. So maybe we need to approach things differently, if we want to be ready for a longer retirement. How did i know . Well, i didnt really. 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Woman torlakson has supported legislation to guarantee spending decisions about our education tax dollars are made by parents, teachers and the local community. And not by sacramento politicians. And we need to keep that legislation on track. Man so tell Tom Torlakson to keep fighting for local control of School Funding decisions. Well, it was the if he can focus of Donald Sterlings grants and hes standing his ground. Sterling, you may recall, insulting johnson for having hiv, questioned his commitment to minority causes, among other things. Even with that, the nba legend says he would have remained silent, but when sterling discussed the africanamerican community, magic says he had to speak up. And heres what he had to say to Anderson Cooper. It was sort of disappointing. But i had to respond in terms of, okay, you dont want me to come to your games. I wont come to your games. You dont have to worry about that. But also, i was upset because he threw minorities in, africanamericans, latinos, into this situation. And so i had to speak up. Look, im one of the leaders of the black community. So i cant let anybody attack our people and not respond. And so thats why i responded. When first of all, you said you were photographed with v. Stiviano. Youre probably photographed with millions of people. He claimed in this interview i did with him the other day, he said you knew her, you knew her well. These are the facts, anderson. I never met this young lady. I took a picture with her. It looked like at a dodger game. Thats it. Thats all i know of her. You know, and then he says im trying to set him up. How am i trying to set you up . He asked me to go on the bar Barbara Walters show with him. A week and a half ago. Because he met with Barbara Walters on a friday. It was before that. I told him i wouldnt do it. I said the number one thing you need to do, which you havent done, is apologize to everybody and myself. Ill get to that, ill get to that. So he wanted you to go on with Barbara Walters, sitting next to him . Sitting next to him. To kind of give him cover . Exactly. So i said no. Then i told him, i said, donald, you should consult with your attorneys. I said this thing is a big thing. And you should deal with your attorneys and let them advise you on what to do. But i said, you need to go public and apologize to everybody. How did he respond . Well, ill apologize later. But i want you to go on this show. He was adamant about me going on this show with him. And i told him no, i wouldnt do it. And thats what happened. This is really weird. Im really disturbed by the fact that, you know, he when he called me, he should have said, magic, im sorry. Right, i asked him specifically if he apologized to you and he said no. No. It seemed like a surprise to him that he would actually be expected to make an apology to you. Well, hes the one who said dont brimagic to my games. So, you know, hes the one who made these comments. So i was expecting at least an apology. And the American Public wanted an apology. He finally did that. But this is its sad. When i saw the interview, its sad. It really is. Im going to pray for this young man. I hope donald can see the mistake that he has made, and also the people he has hurt along the way. And then whats really sad, you know, its not about me. This is about the woman you love outing you and taping you and putting your putting your conversation out here for everybody to know. That wasnt me. I didnt do that. I dont know this young lady. This is between you two. But then he wants to include me. And im not included in this situation. And then he wants to you know, ask me what ive done, you know in the minority community. Thats welldocumented, what ive done. So what is the impact of this . Lets bring in jerome williams, retired nba player and Global Sports ambassador and david cornwell, sports attorney from gordon and reese llp. Let me start with you, counselor. Magic johnson did not have to do this interview. This is not about him, as he says. But what value do you think it provided, hearing from him . Magic johnson, the basketball player, has another triple double. Earvin johnson, rebutted Donald Sterlings racist rant by his mere presence. And, you know, its almost unfortunate that magic had to do the interview to he ended up almost dignity and he certainly responded and knocked the ball out of the park. He made it clear, hes right, sterling is wrong. Jerome williams, not only a player for a long time, vp of the players union. In terms of how the players will see any chance of saving Donald Sterling in the league. When they hear that he didnt apologize to Magic Johnson but asked him to go on a tv show, is that the death sentence . Yeah. Thats going to resonate with the players. And, you know, to say that Donald Sterling has really, you know, set himself up for disasters is an understatement. I mean, heres a guy who has now we have heard from magic and his point of view and what happened and what took place. And it just paints this picture of a guy who lies, who isnt very honest, who is trying to wiggle out of a hole he just cant get out of. Its very unfortunate. I really do side with Magic Johnson, just praying for this man, this individual, who, you know, obviously has some issues that people have known about. And i again just reiterate, you know, the players solidarity and unifiedness with staying with the commissioner on this issue of being banned for life. Whom to agree with is somewhat easy in it this situation, the way it sets up right now. What to do about it gets a little bit more complicated. And i say that, david cornwell, because you had the owners meet yesterday but pretty quickly adjourned and said well meet again next week, no vote. What does that indicate . I think that the owners recognize that we are in the kind of highly highlight of the nba season. And the more they do about Donald Sterling, the more they take the focus away from the game. So i dont think that were actually going to have a final vote on sterlings status as an owner until after the nba finals. I certainly wouldnt do it if i were the nba owners. I wouldnt take the attention away from these great playoffs and put it on this man. He doesnt deserve the focus. Okay. Counter point that ill put to you jerome williams. Donald sterling doesnt deserve the attention. But the issue does. But making a statement about what is tolerated and who we are as a people and a culture, as reflected by what we respect and make out of bounds in the nba does. So do you think that the owners should be acting now . Well, i definitely feel as though they should act. But its a doubleedged sword. I mean, the nba playoffs should be getting all the attention. Magic said it best. He, you know us taking our time for Donald Sterling and away from this great game that has been built in these exciting playoffs. Last nights game with okc and l. A. Clippers was a phenomenal finish. But here this morning were talking about Donald Sterling. I think that it is playing a major role in these playoffs, because race in this country has always been a defining moment, a defining conversation for generations. And it seems this 80yearold man has definitely put his stamp on this mark of this great game because of his comments that were recorded. And its really put us in a bad spot, i believe. All right. Jerome williams, david cornwell, i appreciate the perspective this morning. Well all be watching the games, of course. And they have been awesome. But this issue looms large, and the action on it is going to be importantel sw. Gentlemen, thank you very much. Now, you want to look it at this situation, you have magic, you have Donald Sterling, you want to hear from both, what makes more sense, youll have another chance to hear from sterling. More of his exclusive interview on ac 360 tonight, 8 00 p. M. Eastern only here on cnn. Well take a quick break now. When we come back on new day, this war of words. Karl rove says that Hillary Clinton may have some type of Mental Health some brain injury. He suggests that. Now republicans are criticizing his remarks. But were all talking about it, kate. So maybe he did what he wanted to do. And this will be your premium right here. Sorry to interrupt, i just want to say, i combined home and auto with state farm, saved 760 bucks. Love this guy. Okay, does it bother anybody else that the mime is talking . Frrreeeeaky [ male announcer ] bundle home and auto and you could save 760 bucks. 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Com would have mentioned the finger. Did karl rove really just suggest that Hillary Clinton may have brain damage . Well, heres why people are asking that today. Republican strategist karl rove suggested that more needs to be made of Hillary Clintons 2012 concussion and subsequent hospital stay. He said, quoting him right now, 30 days in the hospital, and when she reappears shes wearing glasses that are only for people who have traumatic brain injury . We need to know whats up with that. Now tuesday, rove backpeddled saying he never said she had brain damage. My point was that Hillary Clinton wants to run for president , but she would not be human if this didnt enter in as a consideration. If and my other point is, this will be ab an issue in the 2016 race, whether she likes it or not. Joining us is now is tracy, ready for hillary, democratic communication strategist and mr. Kevin madden, cnn political commentator and republican strategist. Kevin madden, good to see you, my friend. Good to see you, chris. She wasnt in the hospital 30 days. She was in the hospital three days. There are no special tbi glasses. I mean, i hate that im this is working. Its working, because im talking to you about it. But hopefully we use the opportunity to condemn when someone has gone too far. Can you defend what he said . Well, look, i think it was a rather awkward and as you pointed out, an erroneous statement he made. But i dont think it was an intentional one designed to in any way bring Hillary Clintons health into the conversation in a negative way. I think it was a very awkward attempt at making a pretty obvious point, which is that noncandidates, which Hillary Clinton technically is, they dont get a level of scrutiny that official candidates in a 2016 race might get. And that when you do enter into a race, that level of scrutiny requires that you have to answer some tough questions that you havent answered in the past about your health, about your finances, about past statements. So i think if anything, karl rove was making a point that should Hillary Clinton decide or even going through the stanls stages of deciding, these are the type of things she is going to have to consider as she looks at a prospective 2016 campaign. Take me to the other side, tracy. There are several truths here. The first is, at any point in the election cycle, a lie from karl rove is a lie from karl rove. Thats thats what were talking about here. The other truth are that there continue to be over the years, over these election cycles, when karl rove engages in one of these fiendish tricks, there is a positive correlation between how others react to that. And what i mean is, you have continuing, growing, strong and earnest support for Hillary Clinton that in these past few days has only continued to grow. This weekend, for example, she released a wonderful excerpt from her memoir, a very warm, poignant conversation about being a mother, being a daughter. And thats the Hillary Clinton that people respond to. When karl rove attacks, that enthusiasm for her only grows. These are the truths that were dealing with. Hoisted on ones own pitard, a bomb you strap on and blows up before you wound up doing the damage you wanted to do. Is this going to be a situation like that, do you think, kevin . Well, look. I think as tracy points out, this is what democrats like. They like to run against a as they say, a fiendish character like karl rove. They like to engender a lot of sympathy, not only in their base, but among some of the voters that havent yet made up their mind. The reach were talking about this today has less too with whether or not the facts related to Hillary Clintons health. It has to do with the fact that while Hillary Clinton is not an official candidate, her organization and her supporters, theyre acting like one. They seized on this as an opportunity to drive a contrast with someone like karl rove, to express some outrage and maybe engender some sympathy for Hillary Clinton. And also, you know, late yesterday afternoon, some democrat organizations were raising money on this, by pointing out that karl rove is up to his old tricks again. If anything, youre seeing a democrat machine that does support Hillary Clinton, uses this as an opportunity. Raising money on this. Is that worse than raising money on benghazi, kevin madden . Im not judging it. I think that when political organizations feel they have a message to get out to supporters, and that that support can come in terms of money or whether its voicing their opinion of support, i think thats all part of the political system. The point is, no party has the market cornered when it comes to dirty tricks. This seems to be one playing out right now. Let me ask you this, tracy. Is this the price of you guys playing this game of not committing to the election . You know, if you dont come out and just say, yes, of course, were running, you are going to start taking more pot shots, because people think youre getting a pass. Well, there is no game being played here. This is a serious and earnest effort to mobilize millions of supporters of Hillary Clinton. So that if she does decide to run, she has that army of support behind her immediately. Thats not a game. Thats a very serious and earnest attempt to be prepared for what obviously is going to be a tough election cycle, should she decide to run. The substance of karl roves lies are so offensive and so deeply insulting on so many levels, that if anyone is playing a game, its him. And in this case, its backfiring. And im glad to be able to say that as emphatically as many believe. As i let you guys go, any idea when you will announce she is running and make the Campaign Official . Yeah. Tracy, make some news. Will definitely have the opportunity to speak about her forthcoming book. I know im really looking forward to reading it, if her excerpt on mothers day was any indication. Its going to be a tremendous read. She has a tremendous story to tell. And she has tremendous gifts to offer to this country. That wasnt even close to an answer to my question, tracy. But it was very good pushing the book. You see both parties can play the game very well. Im looking forward to that book. Ive got to say. Of course you are. Youre working for hillary. So are Republican Opposition researchers, tracy. Working for hillary is a completely independent super pac. Were not working for Hillary Clinton, were supporting her. Were all going to read the book. The point is, we want the game to be played better and more fairly than in the past, and thats why were trying to check karl rove and want hillary to commit. Lets try to keep the games to a minimum. Lets talk about that in our book club. Great. Ill see you at the book club. Thank you very much to both of you. Now in this weeks human factor. Opera singer eric jordan had a soaring career with the metropolitan opera when a stroke nearly ended it until he fought back. Here is cnns dr. Sanjay gupta. Every time i sing, my soul is bared. Reporter when he had a stroke a yearandahalf ago, aopera singer eric jordans ability to sing was stifld. 5 30 a. M. The morning of the stroke. 18monthold gabrielle crawls into bed with his parents and everyone goes back to sleep, except eric. He never stopped kind of moving around and jerking around. Then i realized, there is something wrong. Reporter then, the moving around stopped abruptly. I slapped him. He wouldnt wake up. Reporter later at the hospital, doctors removed three large clots in erics brain. Saving erics life. And his ability to sing. Only eight weeks after his stroke, the base was back on stage at new yorks metropolitan opera. This is a very magical house. Reporter eric says that recovering from a stroke has forced him to slow down. And to savor lifes small blessings. And to accept this new version of himself. How you change the way that you look at something helps you change yourself. Reporter dr. Sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. Sanjay, thank you so much. Coming up next on new day, the longawaited 9 11 Museum Finally set to open. 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The museum is built almost entirely underground, some 70 feet down. It sits in the precise footprint of the world trade center. This is exactly where the south tower started, and went up 1,350 feet. A striking display of the sheer scale of the destruction with poignant reminders of the tragedy at every turn. This is unbelievable. This is actually the front of this fire truck. This is the cab. You wouldnt know. Wouldnt know. And its completely burned out and destroyed. Then theres the retaining wall that remarkably held strong, even when the towers fell. When the towers came down, all that debris that was here right in this space provided bracing for that wall. And when that debris was clear, there was a big concern the wall would breach, would flood lower manhattan. It could have been so much worse. But this wall held under all of that pressure. Visitors will also walk alongside the survivor stairs. Used by hundreds of people as the buildings are crumbling, running from the dust cloud, to escape to safety. And its for all our visitors to understand the story of survival. And likely one of the most emotional stops in the museum, this art installation mimics the blue sky on that fateful morning. Behind it, the still unidentified remains of 9 11 victims. The move met with mixed emotion from their families. Still shocking statistic is that 1,100 Family Members never got any human remains back to bury. Never got to go through the ritual of laying their loved ones to rest. Its not a public space at all. Only Family Members are allowed back behind the wall. Right next door, a room dedicated to the lives of those lost. Adjacent to this is the reflection room, which is so important, and why we cant show it and wont show it is because the families get to see it first. Exactly. That room is an area called in memoriam. And its a photographic portrait of each and every one of the 2,983 victims. You see pictures, a father coaching his sons Little League team. A wedding. You see the lives lost that day, and not just about how they died. Its who these people were. Throughout the museum, chilling reminders of the day. Handmade flyers for the missing. A cross emerging from the wreckage. Everyday items simply left behind. We help through these artifacts and images tell the story. It was panic, and people were getting out as fast as they could. And its not just the shoes. It tells the shoes worn by this woman, linda, youre telling everything about that day. And while the museum is vast, one small exhibit has been the biggest source of controversy. Its focus, the terrorists themselves. Including a film criticized for not making a clear enough distinction between islam and al qaeda. There has been a lot of criticism. Why give any time to the terrorists . You know, its one way to look at it is you dont build a Holocaust Museum and not be very clear that the nazis were the ones who committed those atrocities. Al qaeda was an extremist, terrorist group that essentially bastardized that religion for their own purposes. But no one will come through this exhibit and in any way think that we are indicting an entire religion, which we in no way are. It seems very appropriate that you end here. At the last call. And its, again, goes right back to resiliency, seeing those messages of hope, and remembrance on this very tall column thats Still Standing strong. And that last column, of course, is the last piece of steel really standing after the towers fell. The president , the first lady, theyre going to tour the museum. Theyre going to go through the experience before the president is expected to speak at this dedication ceremony. Thats tomorrow and then it opens to the general public next week. As a jaded new yorker, you feel youve seen everything, i cannot wait to see this. And you said take your time. Take your time. They estimate on average it will take people visitors about two hours to make it through the museum. Its a huge amount of space. You should take a lot of time. And youll be surprised. I venture to guess. What triggers emotions that will come back. To me, i think it will be the jumpers. Even the planes going i know its terrible. People hate to see those planes, but the jumpers. We dont sew that on television. It is included in the museum. Its a very difficult thing and they said it was a difficult decision, what to show and not. They do show the video of people jumping from the towers. It is hidden behind a wall. You need to make a conscience effort to go see it if you want to, because they understand the sensitivities. They thought it was important to show what people what the position was that people were put in, and had to make that decision. Theres warnings throughout. People have very different reactions. You know . Absolutely. For you, youre on it with fresh eyes. You didnt have to cover it at that time. Being down in philly. But those who lived through it, the families, theyre going to have one set of feelings, especially if theyre waiting for remains and now theyre in some museum instead of in their private possession. And for those who lived it, it will be interesting to me to see what the what the approach is for people. Ive been down there several times. Its gone through several times of development and stoppage. But it is very powerful. Theres nothing else that we as a nation have experienced like it. Yeah. And it will be interesting to see who is going. You know . And what the takeaway is from it. They have put a lot of thought into it. And there is also uh a museum, you realize that there isnt a museum like it or an experience like it, where there is such a collective connection to it. And it does feel so real. Because everyone did live through it in some way. Some of the artifacts you will ill tell you, youll be surprised what hits you. Seeing the eyeglasses that were burned. That really hit me. Because theres my husband my husband, before i met him, he had to when he had to flee from the Deutsche Bank building. That was the story, he had to leave his eyeglasses behind and never recovered it. And its just one of those things that triggers a memory and emotion. Tough for someone who has to live through it. Of when we looked at the wall of the missing, three of my pals were still up there. So you never know what its going to be. But it was important they took the time to do it. And in general opens to the general public next week. Check it out for yourself. Were going to take a quick break here on new day. See you back after the commercial. I always say be the man with the plan but with less energy, moodiness, and a low sex drive, i had to do something. I saw my doctor. 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Does anybody know what happened here . Ive got to rain on the parade a little bit here. I dont know what happened in the elevator. Whats more, i dont care. I think the core of the story is not really a story. And the real story really is and were going to see more and more stories of this sort based on Surveillance Videos, the cameras everywhere these days and even the media needs to do a better job deciding what a story is, and whether its worth doing segments and stories about it. I have to disagree. I think its a story because of the interest. Thats all anyone is talking about. You can mention any other story and theyll say what do you think happened on that elevator with bee yoenls. People are interested in pornography too, and we dont always cover that. Donald sterling is a story. That doesnt mean its news worthy. You have celebrities in an elevator fighting. I think there are things around the story that may be newsworthy. For example, hotel security. The video. You have two of the biggest stars in the world in an elevator with a sister who is pummelling the husband. That youre going to tell me thats not newsworthy . Come on, brother. Yes, im going to say its not newsworthy. Youre crazy. And heres why. Tell us why. Were going to see more and more stories of this sort where people have hotel surveillance of people, where they have found camera footage, drop cams everywhere. And what about that story is newsworthy . Well never know what really happened between solange and beyonce. Do you mean newsworthy, or do you mean how it is procured . How it is procured, without a doubt. No. We get to what aspect is newsworthy. The family dysfunction, if there is any, i dont think thats a story. The story how this affects maybe jayz and beyonces upcoming tour, maybe thats a story. The story how it affects solanges own solo tour, maybe thats a story. Weve got to talk about that aspect of the other part of the story, which is how this was procured and what a problem this could be for the Standard Hotel. Thats the story. The standard is immune, because its andre bilaz. The developer and proprietor. Just as famous famous people stay in his hotels. I think the problem here, as we become more attracted and celebrities become more attracted to these cool, trendy places, we have to remember that its still hospitality and you dont cross the line. And even though its casual and cool and everybody is really hip, you still have to abide by those hospitality standards. Where what happens in the hotel stays in the hotel. What does the standard need to do . Money. Money is why theyre releasing the tape. Somebody got their hands on the tape. What should the standard do . There is not a culture of service there, maybe. This doesnt always happen in these iconic legacy brands like the ritz carlton or the four seasons where plenty of stuff is going on in the elevator, as well. I dont think it will affect the standard the standard will be the last place anything is leaked. I think they will make sure of that now. Absolutely. How do you do that . There is the incentive, the money. Because it it starts with remembering that were in hospitality and its a culture of service. Think about where you put cameras also, maybe. The cameras need to be there just in case. The thing is, this was a breach of security. The only people who have access to view that are security guards in the hotel. This is not going to be hard to find out who did it. Well, im not a detective, but i think it would be easy. Its going to be hard. Hell have to fire some people to get it out. Do you think that the david Donald Sterling story isnt a story because of how the tape was procured . No, it doesnt have to do with how it was procured. It has to do with what the tape was about. Racism. Owner of a team. In this particular case, oh owe. The private lives of celebrities . People are interested in this story because beyonce has done a great job of keeping people out. Able to release a whole album and we didnt know until the album came out. Now there is this tape it doesnt mean were all feeling theyre interested because there was a fight on the elevator and big stars. Caught on tape. It was a fight. What the heck set solange off. Thats the story. And im saying were going to see more and more things like that and just because its a hash tag doesnt necessarily mean its worthy its not the hash tag. People are interested. I want to know, Everyone Wants to know, what set solange off. What is going on in her world . Does she have issues . How is it going to affect her career . I dont care whats going on in her world. You dont. But everybody else does. I care about the launch of her solo career. I dont care about the launch of her career at all. I dont care whats going on in solanges world. Youre placing a high bar that is clearly not observed, certainly by the entertainment media, but the media overall. Saying i dont care about solanges career . No, saying i dont care about a fist fight involving beyonces sister and her husband. Right. What happens about solanges career is that that is all prdriven. This is a very real moment that makes people care about it. Her career is going to the album is going to drop here. How do we do this, where do we have to get her in order to promote this album. We all get that. Don, lets ask it this way. Michael yes. As not a member of the media, as from your position, watching this, do you think, aside from the Standard Hotel aspect of this, is it news . Do you find it interesting . Worthy of discussing or knowing more about . Okay. The truth, not really. And ill tell you why can. The people who are really famous in that elevator behaved beautifully. Why . Because theyre professionals. I work in hotels long enough to know, when theyre in the lobby, they know theyre on camera. When theyre in the elevator, hallway, they know theyre on camera. And thats why they book three rooms on three floors, the decoy rooms. What happens in their room, we really dont know. Which says a lot about who those people are, the way they reacted. Really does. Very poised. And im going to continue keeping that bar you fight until the end. The low bar, most americans i should have said it that way. Its not that i dont care, its just thats all prdriven. And when you see a real moment, that happens, oh, theyve broken i like your bar. I wish it were the reality. But i dont know that people agree with you. Keep doing chinups to try to stay at that bar. I wish it were the truth and i wish i didnt have to cover it. Thank you. Thank you, that was good. 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