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Neighborhood. Your new day starts right now. This is new day with kate bolduan, Michaela Pereira and john berman. We begin with breaking news this morning. A possible breakthrough in the search for flight 370. Could be a big one. Pilots from australia and china reporting debris sightings in the south indian ocean. Kate bolduan is tracking it all from perth, australia. Kate. Good morning, everyone. A News Conference wrapped up just moments ago. The australian prime minister, tony abbott, had told them two object, one round, one rectangular had been spotted by pilots in the southern indian ocean and they could have those objects in their possession within hours. Thats the near end of that timeline. Thats big news. Also a chinese search plane spotted two large white suspicious objects. We are also learning new details about what might have happened in the cockpit. New radar shows the plane descended to 12,000 feet after making that infamous sharp lefthand turn. Two objects have been located in the search area, one circular and one rectangular. A source close to the investigation tells cnn military radar tracking the flight between 1 19 and 2 40 a. M. Shows after the flight made a shart lefthand turn, it dropped 12,000 feet before disappearing from radar. This says it seems to have been intentional since it would have taken a boeing 777 ten minutes to make that maneuver. Last week a u. S. Official told cnn they suspected someone altered the Flights Program path before the copilots last call at 1 19 a. M. Saying all right, good noight. Now they say the last ping showed a normal route to its destination. If it had been reprogrammed, that change would have shown up in the final transition. Lets bring in andrew stevens. Youve been in perth. Lets walk through this a little bit. Viewers and myself need to get caught up. Lets talk about what australia has seen first. We dont know what these objects are but it is significant because it is another piece perhaps in this jigsaw. What the australians have seen are two objects. They are in the right place as far as the search zone is concerned and perhaps even more importantly, there is an australian warship perhaps within hours of finding that. That could absolutely be critical. Nato adds what australia has seen is separate to what the chinese have spotted hours ago. Its a broad pattern which is slowly emerging. Its blurry but starting perhaps to come into focus. What you said is important. We have a satellite image but its four days old and weve had to try to get eyes on it. But now you have a sighting from an australian plane and a ship in the vicinity. They say they could have it in their possession within hours. The latest is early tomorrow morning. That seems optimistic, though this could be an object unrelated to flight 370. Absolutely right. Its also important to note the air search and sea search is ramping up significantly. The biggest air force out today, ten planes, they are covering more ground and more focused ground. The more that goes out, the morning were learning. There hasnt been this much action, if you like, since the search. I was out in a search plane yesterday. We didnt see a single thing in the ten and a half hours we were out there. The fact that youre getting two sightings in one day, shows there are more planes out there. Theres a big black storm coming our way. The weather, were getting reports, sounds patchy but the reports were getting back is its bad visibility, bad and its going to get worse. So now, i mean, time is of the essence. We couldnt emphasize that enough. Andrew is going to be here. Were going to need him. Thanks so much. Well be tracking all the developments here. Theres a lot to work through here in perth, australia, the heart of the search here. We have important developments today. We want to break it down with our panel our experts, mary schiavo and mary, i want to start with you. We started with mathematical extrapolation from satellite connections and then we moved to satellite pictures and satellite radar data. Now we have planes sighting what could be debris in the ocean. It seems to me this is what you want to see, honing in on possible objects in the ocean. Thats right. If they can identify what these objects are even before actually bringing them on board a ship, these pieces will provide clues from which they can backtrack and find out where the approximate place the plane first impacted the water is and was. Thats where they will be searching for the black boxes. Once they get these items on a ship, they can start analyzing the item themselves for things like any explosive residue, tearing, ripping, any indication of what happened to that plane and also how it landed. Did it come down and make a swa smooth land organize did it basically nose into the ocean . The biggest clue of all will be to point back to where they need to look with those submersibles to the black box. And thats just the beginning to locating the blacks boxes. From what weve seen from the pictures, from the satellite that the australians have, now word theyre seeing rectangular debris, all that fits into what could be pieces of flight 370 . Yes. The indications that they are different sizes, the round shapes rather than an amorphis mass is also significant. Were also going to talk about the path that the flight took. We got information overnight, david. Cnn reporting that it looks like the plane descended to 12,000 feet. That would be too high to evade radar but that descent is significant to you why . Couple reasons. If they did turn back because they had a problem, they probably would have initiated a descent. If you had a fire in the plane, youre going to go to the nearest suitable place to land. Ive heard mary and other pilots say it also, if one of the possibilities weve been talking about is a rapid decompression, getting to that lower altitude is important . If is. In the area where they descended to, they would have been well above the terrain. Probably the captain hit the heading select button, spun the airplane around and if there was a decompression or a fire, hes going initiate an immediate descent. Weve also been talking a lot about what may or may not have happened in the cockpit. Theres been speculation the pilot himself changed the computer flight path prior to checking in with air traffic control. Now the timeline seeps i would say in question at a minimum. So does this take the focus off, in your mind, deliberate action in the cockpit . No, john, it doesnt. You know, you just said weve heard various versions before that come out to be changed later. That could very easily be the case with this rapid descent to 12,000 feet. As Steve Wallace mentioned earlier, you cant have it both ways. If that plane down to 12,000 feet, then were wasting a lot of time picking up trash in the southndian ocean because it couldnt have flown that far. All these little rumors that pop out, they have a huge impact if theyre searching in the wrong place and that turns out to be the situation later. The other comment id like to make is that picking up debris thats not related to the plane crash does not make the picture more clear in terms of the search. It means its meaningless trash and it adds nothing. The only this evening that will this investigation is when they pick up the first piece in that water that is reasonably pretty certain to be part of that airline. And thats a good point. There is a ship which could be a few hours away from the debris and maybe even analyze it before they get there to find out is it just trash or is it connected possibly to flight 370. Tom said Something Interesting there. If the flight did descend to 12,000 feet, is it possible it went back up higher and could be on this southern arc, this southern route off the coast of australia . Or if it went to 12,000 feet, does that mean its impossible it went that far. Looking back on other cases, there was one case that the airline continued to porpoise. T the auto pilot, if that happened, would continue on as instructed. If it was at a lower altitude, it would fly on there unless something intervened such as auto pilot, or the airplane seeking to reach pressure. We heard about 440 pounds of lithium batteries on this flight, we know sometimes they can catch fire. Is that a lot . Its probably a lot but not more than what the airplane can handle. Plus its so far removed. We havent heard whether the compartment is forward or aft. If that happened it, would have been in the water much sooner and we would not have tend to have the pings we had for hours afterward. Great information. Mary, david and tom, great to have you as more information comes in and it is coming in by the minute this hour. All right, we want to take a look at some of our other top stories. The crisis in ukraine. The president and other World Leaders planning to hold emergency g7 talks as russia tightens its grip in crimea overnight. As many as 80 ukrainian troops were captured last night. Lets go to michelle kosinski. Reporte reporter president obama will meet with the g7 leaders. Note the exclusion of russia. This is about meeting with americas strongest allies. The situation in ukraine will dominate these discussions. It might be easy for some, especially in america, to say, well, how is that our problem. When you think about it, what russia has done, essentially invaded its neighbor and taken over a chunk of it, in the view of the west, russia views it much differently, has changed the game for these allies. The question being what should and can be done about it . If escalation will lead to more action by the west, what exactly at this point is escalation . Is it russia staying there . And by the statement token, what would be the deescalation that the west is looking for because russia shows no sign of leaving crimea. Critical conversations and negotiations ahead. What else does the president have on his docket . I imagine hes trying to take advantage of every meeting, every encounter. Reporter yeah, and this is a big deal. Its become bigger in light of ukraine. But hes also going to stop in rome and meet with the pope, more on a personal level, something hes been wanting to do. Then hell stop in saudi arabia to meet with the king to discussion americas position in the gulf, as well as south africa, obviously another source of tension for that reason. Michelle kosinski, we appreciate that. Lots of other headlines making news today. Christine romans has that. Another scare from malaysia airlines, an airbus forced to make an Emergency Landing in hong kong with 271 passengers on board. The Officials Say the planes electrical generator stopped working. An auxiliary power unit kicked in and they were able to land in hong kong where passengers were placed on different flights. And in chicago 30 people were injured as a train derailed at Ohare National Airport this morning. Officials say none of the injuries appear to be life threatening. The train jumped a bumper at the end of line and then moved up an escalator. In south africa, its week four of the Oscar Pistorius trial. A neighbor is on the stand describing screaming and gunshot the night that Reeva Steenkamp was killed. Authorities say a texas oil barge that slammed into a ship this weekend spilling some 168,000 gallons of fuel is no longer leaking. This morning emergency crews racing to clean up that spill which shut down the Houston Ship Channel and sent out one of the worlds busiest water ways to a grinding halt. Oil is reportedly washing up on beaches. Its been detected up to 12 miles offshore. It stopped leaking but they still have cleanup to do now. Next up on new day, new leads in flight 370. Could this be the big break that we have been waiting for . Plus, another search under way this morning. Rescuers frantically look for survivors in a sea of mud and debris in Washington State. Could even more people be alive after this weekends mud slide . Stay with us. Its a growing trend in business do more with less with less energy. Hp is helping ups do just that. Soon, the worlds most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy. Multiply that across over a thousand locations, and theyll provide the same benefit to the environment as over 60,000 trees. Thats a trend we can all get behind. All right, welcome back to new day,. Cnns breaking coverage in the search for fly 370, pilots spotted floating objects in the south indian ocean. Now, it is not clear, not clear at this point whether the debris is from the missing jetliner. Joining me to talk about this development, and it could be a big one, is cnn military analyst and former commanding general of the Army Intelligence center, major john spider. Great to have you here. Australian planes flying over the search area spotted two pieces of debris, someone circular, one rectangular. You can see the area theyve been taking over perth over that small area theyve been focused on and the news that the ship the success, could arriving there within a few hours. The fact that they have some shape and form to them, very significant. Also, if there are pieces of metal, youre going to get magnetic return thats being used by the radar on the aircraft. The aircraft from altitude have a limited loiter time. They can only stay above the site for a couple of hours. They have these long legs that go out over the search area and then they have to come back for fuel. The fact you have the ship that allows you to have consistent and persistent stare and reconfirmation of what theyre seeing. It seems that theyre closing in on a specific area, in your mind thats helping focus on this small area here and you think the whole northern arc, all the way up here, thats a total waste of time . Absolutely. What weve been is all over the map. The northern arc is not as possibility. In your mind. Absolutely in my mind. We would have had a bunch of d indicators from a whole bunch of different neighbors. We dont see anything. The lack of information up here is whats most significant. What we have is indicators down here. Theres nothing up here. We should be concentrating and focusing all our efforts and resources on this part of the world. It its extremely important to rush and get on that target. Pinger locator system that can locate the black box to depths of 20,000 feet. Explain to me what theyve been using and why its significant. Its an acoustic type of collection system. It gets under the water and sort of trolls within a very specific area and youre getting returns if that black box is talking to you. Whats so key is if this debris that theyre looking at today and the ship may get next to within the next few hours, if it turns out to be something, and thats a huge if, they still need to locate the black boxes and not new technology not new technology but new on the search, new to these boys in their efforts to found this stuff. The chinese seem much more involved over the last few days than they had maybe two weeks ago. Are we surprised . You tell me. First we have the satellite imagery and now the plane. What do you make of it . The chinese always want to play nice and overtly you want to be their good friend. You have to be very, very cautious in terms of our relationship with them. However, if the doors open, you allow yourself to work that relationship as cautiously as they can. But you take their offers of support and integrate that into your overall picture. Thats a little bit tough. Everybody wants to lean in and everybody wants to help. Thats a good thing. The coordination of all this disparate information when you dont routinely have an overarching alliance or agreement like we do in nato by comparison becomes very difficult. Very relationship is a bilateral relationship. Lets hope it doesnt play too much of a part in does it ever not . Coming up, kate bolduan goes up in a plane with a crew from new zealand to see what obstacles theyre up against. Stay with us. What does an apron have to do with Car Insurance . An apron is hard work. An apron is pride in what you do. An apron is not quitting until youve made something a little better. What does an apron have to do with Car Insurance . For us, everything. Welcome back to new day,. Im kate bolduan joining you from perth, australia this morning. Lets get you up to day. It has been 17 days since the boeing 777 vanished with 239 people on board. Overnight australian and chinese pilots separately spotted objects floating in the southern indian ocean. Within hours we could find out if at least some of those objects came from the missing jetsli jetliner. The search area is one of the most remote places of australia and it is vast. I had the chance to fly with the team from the Royal New Zealand air force to find out firsthand what its like to be part of this historic mission. The job of searching for flight 370 from the air, such a challenge, it requires multiple planes from multiple countries. Sunday the u. S. , australia, china and new zealand all joined in the search. Were about to jump on new zealands p3 oryan to see the search itself. It cruises to the search zone from 1,300 miles from perth. This is one of eight flights heading out sunday. On board a 12person crew and three journalists, including me with a small handheld camera. Weve now reached the search area, four hours in. Sitting through the flight, you truly begin to understand just how remote this area is. Well be descending down to ideally around about 500 feet for the visual search. However, if required we will go down to 200 feet. Weather conditions out here change in a split second. One moment almost zero visibility. The next, the fog vanishes and its clear for miles. Either way ocean as far as the eye can see. Hopefully today will be the day that we find something. They use high tech radar and special cameras to search the oceans surface, but it comes down to something very low tech, simply looking out the window that, new zealands squadron relies on the most. We usually do about half an hour at the time. Its quite fatiguing on the eyes and the body and we change over regularly. I even take a turn looking for signing for anything unusual, scanning the water, afraid to blink thinking i might miss that one clue and then the waves Start Playing tricks on your eyes. Estimate area complete. After a fourhour search covering nearly 930 square miles, the light begins to fade and with it the optimism that this would be the five the number five squadron would solve the mystery of flight 370s fate. Unfortunately we didnt found anything. It is quite disappointing that we didnt. We want to be out there helping. The return flight three hours to base, making it a 10. 5 hour journey, one more expedition ending with no sign of the plane but that wont stop them. Well try again next time, tomorrow. Well covered around 930 square miles during our search flight. Sundays search by eight planes covered certainly like 23,000 square miles and that is just a tiny sliver of the tin see search area that malaysian authorities have highlighted in this southern corridor. But we are seeing now overnight that it seems the search area is narrowing a bit as we have news of potential objects being uncovered. I want to thank new zealand for letting me jump on that flight. It was quite an experience. Lets get to Christine Romans for other news. President obama taking part in a Nuclear Summit with other World Leaders in the hague today. Overnight Russian Troops stormed and seized a Ukrainian Naval base on the peninsula, between 60 and 80 ukrainian troops were captured. This after prorussian forces seized an air force base on saturday, taking a Top Commander into custody. And a syrian warplane was shot down when it strayed across the border sunday. Turkish Officials Say it had been warned as it approached the area. New york city planning to move the remains of unidentified victims of the 2001 terror attacks to a repository at the 9 11 memorial exam. The remains are in the custody of the medical examiner but will be moved to that museum later that year. The decision to move the remains after overwhelming feedback from the families. The repository will not be open to the public. Jeff bowman was near the finish line waiting for his girl friend to complete the race when the explosion happened. He helped i. D. One of the bombing suspects. We wish him and his new budding family success. You cant help but smile to hear that story. As we say in boston, its awesome, wicked awesome. Love to see that. Lets talk about weather. We are full into spring, my friends. Jennifer gray is here keeping a check of our forecast. Its spring, it doesnt feel like it now. It really not going to feel like it in the next couple of days. We have a possible major storm system rolling through. Its going to be here in the tuesday night into wednesday time frame, some very cold air is going to filter in across much of the southeast, the east coast, the northeast bringing extremely windy conditions to places like boston and possible heavy snow to areas even new york city, boston, up into maine. Were watching two different forecast models and they dont agree at all, which is something were used to. The american model showing about half an inch of snow in new york city, an inch and a half in boston. Look at scenario number two, though. Whoa yup. Were talking about 4 1 2 inches of snow in new york, 11 inches of boston and even talks of blizzardlike conditions around the cape. This is something were going to be watching very, very closely. Also were watching those temperatures. It is barely going to get to freezing in places like chicago yes, yes, i know. Blame it on me. No, indra couldnt face us today so she sent you with this bad news. It will try to moderate by the weekend but its not good at all. I choose the american model. The european model sucks. We all vote for the american model. Next up on new day, could objects found in the indian ocean be debris from the plane . Meanwhile, rescuers are frantically searching for survivors after an enormous mud slide hits Washington State. Could there be people trapped in that mud and still alive . Were going to take you to the dramatic scene next. Everything your mouth does in a day is building up layer, upon layer, of bacteria. And to destroy those layers . You need listerine®. Its unique formula penetrates these layers deeper than other mouthwashes, killing bacteria all the way down to the bottom layer. So for a cleaner, healthier mouth, go with 1 dentist recommended listerine®. Power to your mouth™. Also try new listerine® naturals. The only mouthwash that combines the power of listerine® with naturally sourced ingredients. New this morning, back to our top stories on flight 370. We understand that australian search planes have discovered two pieces of debris floating in the indian ocean in their area, one rectangular, one round. This is a Big New Development this morning. These discoveries coming very early to us here at cnn. I want to get to jim clancy, who is taking a look at the investigative side of this. Jim, youve been following the story from the very beginning. They certainly are attaching a whole lot of hope to these discoveries. They certainly are. Because when they look at it, they know they have to have the evidence. I can tell you whats very clear from watching that press briefing, at one point when asked about terrorism and what was the most likely plot, they replied theyre not going to give away everything. Theyre not going to give away anything. Theyre not going to tell us where the investigation is going until and unless they have the information from those flight data recorders. They want the positive proof. What does that mean . It could mean theyre playing things the smart way and that is doesnt bet on any of these theories that are out there. Thats all they are, theories. Theyre looking at it from that perspective. But if they have any evidence, theyre not sharing it with us either. Show that leaves news a blind shot right now. From the outside it appears theres no progress in the investigation, no change. That may not be true. Were just not hearing about it. Thats actually a very interesting point, jim. Now were going to be waiting to see if the hmas success, an Australian Naval ship in the area, if it can get to that spot where it was spotted and wait for that information to get back to us. Were going to return to our search for flight 370 in a moment. We are also following another really big story here stateside. Search crews in Washington State are frantically trying to find more survivors this morning. Over the weekend, look at your tv right now. Huge mudslide, buried, almost an entire neighborhood, about an hour outside of seattle. Crews so far have found eight bodies. They believe there are more than a dozen people still missing. Cnns George Howell has the very latest. Reporter the devastation, of course, is overwhelming. Officials call the Search Mission in snohomish county, washington aggressive. Helicopters equipped with Heat Sensing Technology scan fields of debris for any signs of people still trapped underneath. There was no sign of life. The only thing i can report is that we found one deceased victim. Reporter the side of this hill came crashing down on the small town of oso saturday morning. This cell phone video was shot from the ground right after the hillside swollen by recent heavy rains gave way, causing a mudslide about a mile wide. Its slid a couple times in my life but never Something Likethis. Reporter Officials Say the movie slurry made sundays re rescues on foot too dangerous. Many families are still left with uncertainty. You can imagine the devastation of worrying about their family situation. We are in an active rescue. This womans father is among the missing. We have to hope hes somewhere and safe. 16 homes were damaged, at least six destroyed, within of them up see here cemented in mud. Again, the challenge is they cant get to some of the areas, the searchers themselves are even facing precarious decisions about whether they go in. Theyre up to their armpits in mud in some areas. They can hear people or they think they can hear people or at least they heard sounds last night. The consistency of quick sand. Up next, the locator will only continue to hear pings from fleet 370 for another two weeks. Time is running out. With a new one, if its totalled within the first two model years. And that parking near a street lamp deters thieves. The more you know, the better you can plan for whats ahead. Talk to farmers and get smarter about your insurance. We are farmers. Call 18004708502 and see how much you can save. This one goes out to all you know who you are. Youve become deaf to the sound of your own sniffling. 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A cable deal would help apple avoid viewing problems tied to slow internet. Now, the maker of candy crush going public this week. This is one of 14, count them, 14 ipos debuting this week. This year could see the most ipos since the tech boom in 2014. There you go. I hope it doesnt lead to a candy crash. All the difference one letter makes. I was begging for that. Hi to do it. Back to our coverage of the flight 370. Overnight australian and chinese crews separately found objects in the indian ocean. They could find out in hours if its debris from the plane. Now its the race against time to find the flight data recorder. It will only continue emitting a ping for two more weeks and that data is crucial to finding out what happened on board. Weve had a busy weekend. Were so glad you could join us again this morning. Again, we know that the efforts are now under way to get to the area where these australian planes found some debris floating to identify if they were from the flight. Putting that aside for a second, what they really need is this, the flight data recorder. Thats right. Now, theyre trying to bring in these hydrophone devices. Give us an idea of how those work and what it can help us with. Were still one step away from getting to the hydrophones. But this is the holy grail, this is the box that has the answers were looking for. It literally bombproof. Its a tough, hardened piece of equipment, can withstand impact of 300 miles an hour, precious up to 20 miles deep inside the ocean but its limited. It certified to emit acoustic pings. In fact, i think we have the actual pings that we can hear and play for you so can you get an idea what it would sound like using a device to amplify it. Lets listen. It sounds like a clock. It sounds more like clicking or ticking. A ping sounds like the wrong word from it. But this would not be heard from my own ear. Its intended to be picked up by this listening equipment that can detect did from distances up up to two miles. But when youre dealing with the vastness of the ocean, it a long, long way. As we mentioned, what theyre doing right now, theyre just trying to find debris. Once they find debris, theyll be able to hopefully work backwards, calculate how the drifting currents would have carried it, work back to the location where the plane went down and presumably where the wreckage would be, if its in the ocean. We dont even know its in the ocean for sure. We have so many uncertainties in this strange and unusual case. This has 30 days battery life, thus the race against time. Weve got about two weeks left . If were lucky it has 30 days. Explain why. In a similar case in many regards, air France Flight also went down, they had a good indication where it might be and they used the hydrophones to search the area for the ping. It turned out that the pinger malfunctioned. They were able to find the data anyway and thats how we were able to solve that case pretty definitively but it took two years because the pinger wasnt working. If it pinger is not working and Something Else happens and we cant find this, were at a big disadvantage. If we cant ever find this black box, there might be some other ways, there might be some human intelligence, somebody on the ground who someday will come forward and explain what happened, but this is really our best bet. If we cant find this, its going to be a lot harder. It seems as though weve netted some result, we dont know officially if theyre related to the plane or not. Lets talk about the northern coreridor corridor. You said this thing is sort of indestructible. Well, they have been destroyed by fire and so forth. Theyre designed to withstand fire of a certain time and temperature. Theyre not magic. Imagine an aircraft that could be traveling upwards of 500 Miles Per Hour crashing into hard ground, its a very traumatic event. But in most cases even so these are able to survive and were able to get data off it. Land or sea, if there was a crash, we dont even know there was a crash at this point, we know nothing about what happened to this plane. Its full circle. We know nothing about the airplane but until we have this, we know nothing. Its a tough nut to crack. Lots of developments breaking this morning. Lets get to our top story. A few minutes ago an australian search aircraft had located two objects. Sitting through the flight, you truly begin to understand just how remote this area is. If there was a high dive like this, either it was malfunction, bomb or somebody commandeered it. It seems like this was the action of a crew facing some sort of emergency. Over the weekend impatience turned into anger. We want to know what happened welcome back to new day. Im Michaela Pereira alongside john berman. We want to welcome our viewers from right here in the United States and all around the globe. We have breaking news in the flight for flight 370. Pilots from australia and china each report spotting objects floating in the southern indian ocean, kate bolduan is tracking it all from search headquarters in perth, australia. Kate . Good morning, all. The two sightings came just hours apart. Australian pilots spotting two object, one round and one rectangular and chinas pilots also saw two objects, both white and rectangular in the same general search area. Authorities report it could be just about a matter of hours before we know for sure they have the debris in hand and then of course its a question when will we know if this debris is part of that missing jetliner. A source close to the investigation tells cnn the jetliner descended to 12,000 feet after making that infamous sharp left turn. Lets discuss that with andrew stevens. Where we are is Pearce Air Force base. What do you take from these new sightings . These seem more significant, i think, than some of the leads that weve had in previous days. I think we have to be careful, kate, about putting too much emphasis on this given the fact that there is still nothing concrete. We are still talking about objects. What we know is a low flying plane picked up perhaps five objects visually, which is so important now and reporting it. Whats critical now is that there is an australian warship in a vicinity within hours, we could know, we could have solved this riddle. We could know those objects are related. On the other hand, of course, they may be another false lead. Weve had so many. But its all tying in to sort of a theme, if you like. Were seeing more planes in the air, more sightings on a more regular basis. Obviously there is something down there. We have to caution also this part of the world collects so much rubbish anyway. Until we actually get their eyes on, we wont know. They are taking it seriously, though. The reporter up in the video camera that was up in that plane came back and was reporting that they did drop flares in the general vicinity because obviously they need to note somewhere for the hmas success, the ship, to go to to try to spot it. The chinese plane, they spotted objects as well, but this is separate. These are not the same objects. Thats right. So the chinese plane saw visually at 33,000 feet, which is high very high. But they saw two objects they described of a relatively big size and several white objects, smaller objects around them. So ive been talking to aviation experts and they say, look, that could be a debris field. They havent seen pictures but it could be a debris field. But again, one of the most Sophisticated Navy planes in the world went out and couldnt find anything into that area. They mapped it by using these drift models because that seems to be the best way of finding where those objects float and its very frustrating. Very frustrating. Every time one of these crews go up, they hope theyre the ones to find something. They get it that theyre part of something thats really unprecedented. It is the greatest aviation mystery not one of, the greatest aviation mystery right now ever. And they obviously want to be a part of that. You know, there have been so many theories, which are still and bizarrely 17 days on, all these theories about what happened, where it could be, its all still open. We havent ruled anything out yet. You havent ruled anything out, even if we find out where the plane is, we still dont know why it all happened and thats part of the huge investigation that will continue. And thats why they have to find the plane, to find the whys. We need a break in this mystery. Were going to continue to follow it here obviously. A lot developing overnight and will continue developing nighttime here, morning in new york. Really great work there we should tell you as well. I want to bring in former aviation analyst mary schiavo and brian myles. We want to talk about some of the new details emerging now. Were getting more and more specific information. Mary, youve been with us since the beginning, the search area honing in on this southern corridor and then we get this news this morning that australian planes visually spotted two objects, one rectangular, and one round, able to specify color and a little more detail. This is encouraging. It is encouraging, especially since its not the same shape. We kept getting reports of the rectangular masses without color. The life vests are orange, the life rafts are usually yellow. It important that weve gotten these clues. Whats really encouraging is that the numbers are starting to mount up. Yes, there are more people looking but they match both the satellite coordinates, they march the report match the report from two days after the plane went missing. They still have to bring it on home. They have to get a piece of wreckage on the ship to confirm and also have to find the black box. And it brings more speed, theres something spotted and there are other planes in the area. We have reports overnight that the military radar tracked 370 between 1 19 and 2 40 a. M. Making a sharp turn over the china sea but then also changing dramatically its altitude to 12,000 feet. Give us an idea of what scenario matches with a plane suddenly turning and drop being to 12,000 feet. The military radar was able to discern by detecting that was not inconsistent with what pilots call a high dive, meaning at 35,000 feet you have some sort of catastrophe, decompression, fire, whatever the case, which necessitates getting the plane down to an altitude where you can breathe the air. 10,000 feet is the number you aim for. A high dive is a very dramatic move. It would involve a turn off of the air way and in this case back to land because presumably they were looking for an Emergency Landing site as well as a very steep descent. So what that military radar discovered was not inconsistent with that. The military radar, however, is not as accurate as it would be if you had a transponder returned radar image. If the transponder was off, this is a military target. Let me ask you about that 12,000 foot descent or to 12,000 feet. It also would put you below the heavily traveled traffic route, correct . So that speaks to somebody who is an aviator at the helm, correct . When you have this sort of situation, the first thing youre supposed to do is get down and take a left turn or right turn off of the air way where there might be other traffic. So youre going to get out of the way and youre going to get down. In this case one more step, you want to get back toward land. That is what were seeing with this report. You know, obviously we have to wut t put the caveat that wee had a lot of dead ends but this is the thinking. Also theyre saying there is no contact before the last contact. People are going to say this conflicts with information we had before. Talk about why this is significant to us. Well, the folks at home would be right. It does conflict with information we had before but heres the significance on this. Before somebody said the pilots changed their heading 12 minutes before their last communication. So if you were changing your heading and you were no longer headed to beijing, you were headed somewhere else, it would be logical to assume something was wrong, you had a mechanical problem, a fire explosion, a decompression, a hijacking, something, but in those 12 minutes in the change of the heading and the time when you have your last report, people s say why didnt they report something, squawk the hijack code or call a may day. Now that we learn they did not program that in, things start to make more sense and at the last communication it appears they are didnt realize or whatever it was hadnt started yet, they didnt realize they were headed for a problem. So this really speaks to intent. Weve been hearing this word on cnn a lot, nefarious. So this sounds less nefarious to you two . It does to me. I agree. Its interesting talking to our colleagues and a lot of you, frustration obviously from families, and we understand that, frustration from even media about the lack of information from officials. Why do you believe there is such confusion surrounding even the basic facts . Myles . I think frankly the malaysian authorities dont have a lot of experience running an investigation like this. In the u. S. We have the template of an ntsb investigation, there are strict protocols and the ntsb has had a lot of experience doing this and is a model for how it should work. The malaysian has been incomplete and the information dribbles out 16 or 17 days later, frankly, its inexcusable. Mary, you seem to be nodding and youve been on the front line of some of those investigation. Yes. And the answer comes in secrecy. The ntsb, they have to brief the families. I have seen accident investigations where theres just as many unknowns and weve had to go down so many different routes, twa 800, we thought it was initially an explosion, a bomb. It was an explosion, not a bomb. But the difference is every day the ntsb says this is what we know today, this is what we know today. When you get information through back channels, people think youre secreting something out where if they just lay it all out and frankly it would probably be a lot better and more people would come forward and you have more information. Theres a lot that we need to learn so we can prevent, if this was mechanical, as the two of you seem to be lanning towards how we can prevent Something Like this from happening given. Miles obrien, everyone sends love to you, mary, youve been working so hard, thanks for joining us once again. Much more on the flight of 37 coming up. Lets check other top stories, givening wi beginning with the crisis in ukraine. President obama and other major World Leaders now planning to hold emergency g7 talks as russias hold tightens on crimea. Overnight Russian Troops stormed and seized a Ukrainian Naval base there. As many as 80 ukrainian troops were captured. Michelle kosinski is near the hague this morning. Reporter president obama arrived in the netherlands this morning and met with the prime minister. Soon hell meet with china and members of the g7, note the exclusive russe exclusion of russia. The situation in ukraine will dominate these discussions. Maybe its easy for some, especially in america, to say how is that our problem . What russia has done here, invaded its neighbor and taken over part of the west, russia see it is much differently, it changes the game for the allies, what can or should be done about it. Escalation of the situation will lead to more action by the west, what would be more escalation in would russia staying in crimea equal that . And by the same token, what would be deescalation, since its not as if russia is going to leave . Key clarifications needed. A lot going on there today. Lets go to Christine Romans for other top stories. Searchers in Washington State looking for signs of life after a monster mud slide. At least eight people are killed, several are still missing. Rescuers have been searching for survivors trapped in the mud and debris but the unstable ground has made the Search Mission dangerous. In south africa, its week four of the Oscar Pistorius trial. A neighbor son the stand this morning describing screaming and gunshot she heard the night Reeva Steenkamp was killed. Documents leaked by Edward Snowden and reported by the New York Times suggest the nsa monitored hacking directly into its network and communication between the companys top executiv executives. Officials say a nearly 200,000 Gallon Oil Spill off the coast of galveston, texas, has now been contained. 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She also a Senior Analyst for metron. We know she helped in the search for air france 447, which crashed in the atlantic. Also with me is david funk. Colleen, obviously this is encouraging news. You try not to get hopes up too high that this debris has been spotted, not just on radar or satellite but visually seen from a search plane. Yeah, weve been waiting for a break like this. Its very important to get our hands on some debris. Its still not clear it debris from the aircraft. But we have to verify every piece of junk we see out there and check it out to discount it if it not part of the aircraft. Does it sound hopeful to you . They had more descriptive words. They talked about color, shape and size, not just a murky image on a satellite. The previous sightings seemed like things that fall off ships and float around. I have to caution everybody, theres a lot of junk out there. It amazing we havent found more, to me at least. Im withholding judgment until we get our hands on it. Lets say they get there. Give us the order of events. This the challenge now to physically relocate what was spotted, correct . From what i gathered, they dropped flares. Theyll pick it up, bring it on board and probably have o to describe it in great detail to someone who would know what the pieces of the aircraft look look. Its not going to have the name of the aircraft presented on the side of it, unfortunately. So theyll probably have to bring it back or put it in a helicopter or something and get it back. So it may be several days or a week before we find out conclusively what it is. But if we do determine its from the aircraft, then the even starts. Its going to be quite a chore to figure out where it came from, figure out what the impact area so we can get the hydrophones to really find the wreckage on the bottom. It makes sense when you say it but when you realize the painstaking operation with all that is involved, it was great having kate bolduan up with a search team to visualize what they are looking like. Cnn is reporting the military radar tracked 370 between 1 19 a. M. And 2 40 and talking about this chang in altitude and the turn, which weve talked about before in the air, but this drop to 12,000 feet, we just talked with miles obrien. Youre a pilot. Give us a scenario that you would do that, how youd do it and why youd do it. The first thing the captain may have done if they had a problem and they knew it, they turn back to land. The descent to 12,000 would occur if you had a fire or smoke in the airplane, youre going to start going to the nearest suitable airport in a descent. When the captain set the altitude he wanted to descend to initially, its probably going to be 12,000 feet, probably going to use an even number like that. If the auto pilot failed, that would splan the wiexplain the ws in altitude we saw earlier. Fast forward to this debris, that debris is spotted, that is a very Long Distance in the indian ocean. If they slowed the airplane down to 250 knots, it would fly almost the same amount of time it would fly at a higher altitude but its going to go a lot slower to extend the fuel range. The airplane may have climbed back up on its own because it was trimmed for a high speed or whatever and wound up back at high altitude. Without knowing the speed indication that the military radar had, we cant really surmise that at this point. The capacity of that radar that far from land is limited, correct . It could from 12,000 feet, could have been 20,000 feet. Up at 48,000, it could have been up in that 30 range. It may have been porpoising between the mid or low 20,000 feet range. Colleen, im curious, we want to take a cautionary tone when we even say Something Like this but were going into our third week, the families are beyond desperate, investigators are frustrated. We also know theres a finite amount of time on the battery life within the flight data record are aer and it takes fun do all of this searching. Youve been through scenarios like this, at what point do you think it turns into a cold case . Do you feel confident were going to get an answer at all . Thats always the hard part, when to suspend the search to tell the families youve done your best and have to give up. I sense a big will here to continue on. They really have to exhaust all possibilities. A normal search would go maybe three weeks and if nothing new came up, theyd tell them were really sorry, theres nothing more they can do. I think theyre going to go for much morning than the three weeks weve seen already. With this new information overnight and this morning, thats certainly putting fuel in their tank. Thank you to both of you. Always a pleasure to have you on our air. Up next, the weather, ocean currents such a big factor in the search for flight 370. Could the weather delay things even more . Well take a look at what they can expect really in the next few hours. And on inside politics, well look at the talk show host internet stunt involving three generations of clintons. You will not want to miss this. Isnt the only return im looking forward to. For some, every dollar is earned with sweat, sacrifice, courage. Which is why usaa is honored to help our members with everything from investing for retirement to saving for college. Our commitment to current and former military members and their families is without equal. How much money do you think youll need when you retire . Then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. 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Total devastation in rural Washington State. A giant mud slide wiped out a community. Crews have pulled eight bodies out of the mud. Several were critically hurt, including a baby. The mud is 15 feet deep in some places. Tensions are on the rise on the turkey syria border. The pilots were warned sunday before one of planes was shot down. A very tense situation there. Absolutely. Always a tense situation in our nations capital, which is why we go to one man to calm things down and explain it all for us. Lets go inside politics this morning. Well begin with the president overseas. You guys have talked a bit about this. Hes trying to deal with the crisis in ukraine. With me to share their reporting and their insights, margaret and manu. The president says hes united. Listen to his Deputy National security adviser. They may have resolve but do they have good options . When it comes to military assistance, were looking at the facts are these even if assistance were to go to ukraine, that is unloikely to change russias calculus. They dont think Angela Merkel will along with significant sanctions. So the president who said they could unite the world and have better diplomacy doesnt have the ability . They will have trouble tackling it. And aid to ukraine has been held up because of disagreement, largely because of republicans. It will clear the senate and it going to take another few days. There is enough support for that. As you said, john, this is not necessarily going to get through the house at least in the current form in the senate. Republicans object to the inclusion of imf reforms that the president is pushing right now and even some republicans go along with that. If they cant agree on that, what more does that get through . It anybodys guess. If youre watching this from moscow and youre Vladimir Putin, these things hardly make you shake in your boots. Ill call this the mitt romney i told you so tour. Listen to president obamas opponent in the last preside president ial election. He said Vladimir Putin was the biggest issue. The president s naivete with regard to russia has led to a number of Foreign Policy challenges that we face. Now, i want to show you a calendar as we continue the situation. This is nearly a dozen sometimes since the first of the year the governor has been out doing media. He fox news sunday, meet the press, wall street journal. Margaret is just lately he wants to get in the face of the president or is he doing Something Else here in. Everybody is preserving their options. Part it have for romney is to figure out did, is he a respected figure that people are going to go to for support and hes really filling a vacuum. And john kerry wept back to the senate, bob dole went back to the senate, and he insists im not running. If hes there, the establishment says that means rand paul or ted cruz isnt on the air but wheres he going . I think he enjoys this moment right now. As we know, he really wanted to be president , his wife really wanted him to be president and i think its been sort of an adjustment going back into regular life and being in a quiet position in the party. There is a leader backing the Republican Party right now. The field of 2016 is wide open. I dont think hes going to run. Hes certainly making it clear hes not going to run. But if he speaks, people will listen. He has a lot of influence over a very deep donor network. Let move on to Michelle Obamas trip overseas. The white house had said Michelle Obama was going to have a family visit to china, she was not going to get into politics at all. We raised the question and comparison to Hillary Clinton ba back. In a speech in day jing she said when it comes to expressing yourself freely, having open information, we believe it is the birth right of every person on this planet. She did decide to gently and publicly raise objections to the chinese practice. This is part of the reason she doesnt get out a lot in the u. S. In terms of going out and making speeches that can shift into policy speeches because she tends to a be a fairly edgy person whenever she says anything. Obama has articulated these points, these are points that the u. S. Makes all the time to china about free press and when mrs. Obama says it, people listen and it not just a field trip with her daughter. I think she had to say something, even doing it in a gentle way, not an overbearing manner. Nafs not the focus of her speech. She to. And let move on. A lot of clinton news in the past several days, including over the weekend. She was in a forum in arizona, she was asked by a young woman if not you who to represent i dont think women in politics . She said stay tuned, well get around to this i think. And then there is the famous selfie here. Jimmy kimmel had a picture there, you see Chelsea Clinton there right over Jimmy Kimmels left shoulder, very popular, went all around the world. Heres the challenge, guys, if youre going to do this, the Clinton Jimmy kimmel selfie, 8,000 tweets. Remember ellen . Millions of tweets. Whats the issue . You need more celebrities. What did you make of her over the weekend . Shes out there so much now. That was a pretty personal question from a young woman, essentially saying we need you. Who wouldnt want that question . It the ultimate perfect soft ball question for Hillary Clinton right now. Shes pacing herself, it all about timing. He has a little bit of time left. See is really trying to find her rhythm and how much can i hold back and build up expectations without kind of jumping ahead. And wait until her biography comes out. She doesnt want to get ahead of that. Thats when her book will come out. And thats when shes going to tell us yes or no for real . It will be tweeted. Thanks for coming in. As we get back to you in new york, the first president ial debate of 2016 is today. No, never mind, just kidding. But but she will be an at Education Forum with former governor jeb bush. I thought she was giving respect to the woman saying, ooh, ive been asked this question many times but never quite that way. Law of averages. Were going to take a short beak here on news day. The flight 370 search is already challenging. Add to that rough water conditions and the weather. Well look at weather variables and how they are affecting the search. N full. Oh, well in that case, back to vacation mode. Boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants. Voiceenabled bill pay. Just a tap away on the geico app. Huh, 15 minutes could save you 15 or more on Car Insurance. Yup, Everybody Knows that. Well, did you know that some owls arent that wise. Dont forget about im having brunch with meagan tomorrow. Who . Seriously, you met her like three times. Who . Geico. agent i understand. dad weve never sold a house before. agent ill walk you guys through every step. dad so if we sell, do you think we can swing it . agent i have the numbers right here and based on the comps that ive found, the timing is perfect. Theres a lot of buyers for a house like yours. dad thats good to know. mom im so excited. Welcome back to new day. Australian and chinese searchers have spotted objects. Australian and naval vessels are expected to get to where those objects are in a few hours. Weve been talking about the weather conditions for the entire search. When i heard the naval vessel was headed to that region, i thought what kind of conditions will they be facing . Its crummy on a good day. When you factor in the rain, the low advivisibility because of t cloud cover, when the waves are crashing higher than the bow of the boat, you cant really see higher than that wave. When its a calm day, you can look out and see ten miles or more. Were going to see pretty strong showers move in. Today through tuesday well see gusty winds, 40 to 50 miles an hour. You have to imagine theyll probably be close to hurricane strength winds. That will limb is visibility to the aircrafts and the ships concerns will be white caps. The winds into tomorrow already gusting 50 to 60 Miles Per Hour or more. Were tacking about advilkin visibility from the air but now well need to talk about it from the ship as well. A lot of people are talking about this cyclone. Is that near where the search area is . No. Its a couple thousand miles away. Its equivalent to a category four storm. Were not going to see many effects from, it basically just swells but that will be about a day or two delay. You see this red dot right here, thats jillian and thats the search area. So it is definitely far away but in a couple of days theyll start to get some of those swells that will make the waves higher. I dont think wind is going to be a concern. Wind is already a concern there. So it not going to add too much as far as thats concerned but we will see some swells. Were talking about this separate piece of debris spotted by chinese airplanes and now an australian search plane as well. Counsel here in this area spotted today. At sea level right now where in a is, what kind of currents could be moving this stuff around . Unfortunately this is in the strongest current in the world. Ships actually use this current to move their journey long faster because it is that strong. Because of that youll have maybe more ships using that current. Thats why were seeing a lot of that debris, a lot of that garbage out there. B but, this debris can travel hundreds of miles away from where it was spotted on that satellite three, four days out. And if anything is on the ocean flower, no telling where stuff could travel, hundreds of miles. It will be very hard to locate it on the floor compared to where it is on the surface. Some of the lag time has been up to four days. Now a good news is that a french satellite was taking pictures yesterday and now theyve been able to locate that position today. Whether or not they can get there in time to see the pieces of defbury is a different story. The u. S. Also sending in search equipment. This is the undersea line that with help with the undersea search to perhaps locate that black box. The currents move under the surface of the water as well. Right. They can move 4,000 meters below the surface is how far they can be under the surface. It not just a quick mathematical equation to where this is found. You have to account for the winds moving the debris above the surface and you have to account for any storms moving in. You see what im saying . Its going to be very, very difficult to locate once they find it on the surface. The news today this Australian Naval vessel could be hours of a from getting to the spot where planes handled th ththa that spotted that debris. Coming up next, well go live to beijing. Coming up next, well go live i dbefore i dosearch any projects on my home. I love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angies list for bringing us together. Find out why more than two million members count on angies list. Angies list reviews you can trust. Welcome back to new day, everyone. Im come towing live from perth, australia this morning, the search headquarters really for flight 370. 17 days after the jetliner vanished family and friends of the 239 people on board are still looking for answers. And an end to their pain, quite honestly. The wait has been agonizing. Overnight many received a briefing from Malaysian Airline representatives. Pauline, how did that meeting go . Reporter well, kate it didnt go very well because Family Members came out very angry and frustrated. They say they are getting inconsistent information and very vague answers. In beijing this morning relatives of the chinese passengers who make up almost twothirds of the 239 missing are growing skeptical of malaysias investigation. After todays briefing with malaysian government officials one father whose only son was on flight 370 says this wasnt an accident. He believes theres a coverup despite government claims to the contrary. Questions and demands by relatives left unexplained more than two weeks since their loved ones disappeared. Its been 17 days says one woman crying into a tissue. Over the weekend, inpatience turned into anger. Family members shouted at the meeting give back my relatives, tell the truth and malaysia is a liar. We want to know what happened. Were not here only to list zwroin. Reporter since the beginning of the 777 mysterious disappearance its been an emotional roller coaster for parents, partnerser and children waiting to hear if anyone is alive. In an exclusive interview with cnn Family Members of ten passengers aboard the Malaysian Airlines flight vent their frustration none showing their faces. As time goes by we feel less hopeful one Family Member said. My grandmother back home cries all day. Our relatives are heartbroken over this. And this group is from six different families and they were just strangers 17 days ago but since then theyve become friends and they decided to speak out as one group because they are so frustrated with the flow of information. Kate . Maybe they can find some comfort in being there together as they work through this truly nightmare together. Pauline, thanks very much for your hard work there. Well take a break. Coming up next on new day, australian and chinese aircraft spotted objects in the indian ocean overnight. Could this finally be the break that crews and those families that we just showed you, theyve been looking fortin search for flight 370. Details coming up at the top of the hour. Its a growing trend in business do more with less with less energy. Hp is helping ups do just that. Soon, the worlds most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy. Multiply that across over a thousand locations, and theyll provide the same benefit to the environment as over 60,000 trees. Thats a trend we can all get behind. Return on investment wall isnt a street. Isnt the only return im looking forward to. For some, every dollar is earned with sweat, sacrifice, courage. 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Australian and chinese planes find objects in the search area. They could be in hand within hours. The planes return to base. Plus new information on the planes path. Cnn learning it dropped to 12,000 feet before vanishing and what are malaysian authorities now saying . Happening now russia storms and takes Ukrainian Naval base as president obama tries to build opposition. Here at home deadly mudslide. Eight dead. Many more missing. Your new day continues right now. Good morning. And welcome back to new day. Im Michaela Pereira joined by john berman. We have breaking news in the ongoing search for flight 370. Objects were reported seen in the indian ocean. Everyone is honing in on that area. Kate bolduan is tracking it all. Kate . Reporter this could be a big moment but, of course, you have to offer a healthy dose of caution. Good morning, everyone. Overnight australian pilots reported spotting two objects in the indian ocean the discovery coming hours after a chinese search plane described seeing two large white suspicious objects as they called it surrounded by many smaller pieces of debris. Still, no confirmation it is from the plane that we are searching for but australian officials are hoping that might happen today. Were also learning new details about what might have gone down inside the cockpit. Military radar shows the jetliner descended to 12,000 feet after making that sharp left turn. This morning an australian search team has located two objects. It is in the vicinity and possibility the objects could be received within the next few hours or by tomorrow morning at the latest. Reporter the crew describes one as a gri or green circular object. The other an orange rectangular object both located in the search area about 1500 miles southwest of perth, australia. This discovery made after another sighting earlier in the day, a chinese search team spotting suspicions objects in the southern indian ocean. These objects are not in the vicinity of which were identified by Australian Authorities last week. Reporter also this morning new information about the cargo aboard flight 370. We now know it was carrying 200 kilo grams of lithium batteries. Those are considered nonhazardous. As long as you pack them in a manner thats recommended. Reporter new details emerged about flight 370s path. A source tells cnn military radar tracking the flight between 1 19 and 2 40 a. M. Shows after the plane made a sharp left turn it then dropped as low as 12,000 feet in a high traffic airspace before disappearing from radar. This same source says the flights turn seems to be intentional since it would have taken a boeing 777 two minutes to execute that maneuver. Malaysian Authorities Say they are not ruling out foul play. Other leads which relates to no ransom note, no groups claiming to be responsible leads to further speculation. Reporter now back to those objects. We could know d everyone is offering a much needed dose of healthy caution but we could have some answers in a few hours. Thats what malaysian Authorities Saying. They could be coming to australia at the perth air force base where im at and thats important because there might finally be one step forward in breaking this case, finding a clue to solve this mystery that everybody has been confounded by for 17 days. Lets head it back to new york. Kate, youre right. That cautionary note is important. Lets talk to somebody who knows what is happening. Joining us by phone is the spokesman for the u. S. Navy seventh fleet. Hes aboard the uss blue ridge in the philippine sea. First of all, lets establish we can get connection. Commander, can you hear us . Yes, i can. I have you loud and clear from under way in the philippine sea. Can you tell us what conditions are like right now since we have the benefit of having you online with us . Sure. Where you are most concerned is the southern search area southwest of perth, australia being led by the australians. I did see the report in today, our p8 poseidon just landed a few hours ago. Over the last few days it has been pretty challenging environmental conditions there. The area has been overcast, a little fog rolling in, a little bit of high seas. But the important thing to realize is that these planes and we have two searchandrescue patrol planes flying they are all weather capable. They are built for this. And no matter the weather, they can resume their searching whether through radar, infrared, optical camera or visual search not just based on l. They are all weather capable. We in the media tend to make a lot about the weather but youre saying that the weather is not necessarily a factor if your vessels and air support can get there. Yeah. We certainly can get there. Just to give you and overview of the flight pattern. Its about three, three and a half hours out there. About a 1500 mile strip and once they are on station they have about three hours search time and then have another 1500 miles or so back and over the course of that flight and on station time, the experts in the back of the plane, you have the pilot and the tactical coordinators in the back they adjust for the environment. So, for example, if its a clear day they may go 5050 visual to radar. Good. But this search radar is very advanced. It can cut through that clutter. So what you think about in a civilian or commercial aircraft as being bad weather, for us the software tunes that out and we can adjust based on that. Yeah, we do have quite a bit of capability. All weather and can search at night using infrared. Pretty wide range. We love the u. S. Navy as part of this effort. We know this is an international effort. Can you give us an idea just logistically how that is coordinated, how the information breakdown gets to you so that you know the precious information and then how you coordinate the search. We know its being done by grids. Sure thing. And you probably know australia is in the lead in the southern sector. Those are planes based out of perth. Were still flying out of kuala lumpur and those efforts being led by malaysia and our p3 orion is flying a southern search box. Whats encouraging is this International Cooperation and right now australia is flying out of perth. Of course the u. S. Navy, china has planes there flying. So that way its well coordinated, communication, the flight patterns, the sectors, so that we can rest our planes when we need to, we can get the maintenance done when we need, to and then theres never a gap in the search coverage. The reason i say that is encouraging is because the reason the seventh fleet is out here, the navys seventh fleet is for security and stability and to work with all these countries to make sure this region is secure and stable, and thats not just here, that range is from International Dateline by hawaii all the way to pakistan border and then north of japan all the way to antarctica. Were out here doing this wasry day and we usually work with one or two or three countries at a time every day of the year. But to have all these countries come together 26 by my last count, all these countries come together, communicating in a professional manner, that is extremely encouraging for this region of the world thats so important to the rebalance of our u. S. Forces. Well, we want to just say a big thank to you the men and women aboard the uss blue ridge for your Service Every day but specifically in this very important task at hand. The ongoing search for malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Commander william mark, really appreciate you giving us an idea of the coordinated effort thats under way. Thank you so much for making time for us today. Thank you. Have a great day. John . We want to talk about all the developments this morning. There have been a lot of them. Well bring back our panel of experts to break it down. Form international captain from Northwest Airlines david funk. Former faa inspector and author of why planes crash daylight savings time, david susi. And Law Enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director. David, i want to start with you. The news this morning thats broken over the last few hours, australian planes spotting what they say could be debris in the ocean. These are planes not satellite, people on these planes spotted pieces that were orange and also some circular white items that could be some kind of colored drum. It could turn out to be nothing. But the fact they are spogt this by plane and 0 not four day old satellite is this significant . Significant in that they have something to search for. It doesnt sound to me as though the description they are giving fits anything that would be on or part of that aircraft. But the good thing is by plane so they can quickly get down low, take a look and see probably tomorrow what specifically it was and at least im sure they have a sonic buoy to track that material. Do you think any of these objects ascribed by the australian pilots could be something you see on a plane . Could be. Youll never know for sure until you get hands on. Get the ships helicopters up to spot them and bring small boats in to physically recover them. Nothing is as good as putting your hands on an object. I dont care if its a piece of torn metal. Boeing will tell us what piece of the airplane was. This Key Development is in Australian Naval vessel the success could be hours away from getting where they spotted this debris. David, one more question. Just a couple of hours ago we learned the copilot on board flight 370 this was just his sixth trip on a boeing 777. This was his first flight alone as the copilot. Is that in and of itself significant . No. If you had an inflight emergency or any kind of problem the guys fresh just out of training is the fresh just out of class. Hes got all the procedures down. Actually, if there was just an inflight emergency that led to a nefarious event this is a guy i want in my right seat. Hes frerk out of training. Thats good. Why its great to have you here. Youre saying it may be the best case to have a guy out of training. Absolutely. Another development that developed late overnight this is word from radar analysis that this plane may have dipped, descended to below 12,000 feet. This is way back when it was still over malaysia if in fact it was ever there depending on how you believe these radar and satellite things were tracing. Descended to 12,000 feet. The first one, a few people may be wonder if its that low again wouldnt cell phones, wouldnt passengers, isnt that get close to where they might be able to communicate with people on the ground . Thats true. They might have to get lower than that for cell phones, closer to 4,000, 5,000 feet. Starting with the beginning as an investigator when you hear Something Like this the first thing i think is who said that. Who is the source. How do they know what they say they know. Weve had this kind of source reporting from day one that many of which turns out to be wrong, and, you know, you still have the issue of the inmarsat satellite. If the northern arc and southern arc are absolutely that aircraft it went one way or the other but on that arc, then these various turns and especially dropping to that low of an altitude seem to conflict. Again the stories put out like now we know. Do we really know . I think you make a great point. One thing that makes this entire search story so confounding it contradicts other information. You told me if in fact this flight did descend to 12,000 feet somewhere over the malaysian peninsula it wouldnt be able to get as far south of perth, australia where they are searching now. Is that right . Thats what the aviation spergts said the fuel consumption would be so phenomenal at that altitude it would have to go back to cruising altitude to get any kind of distance which would negate what the inmarsat satellite says. It doesnt say how far it went but it said it was in the air for all these extra hours. In order to stay in the air it would have to be economical with its fuel consumption, burning fuel going up and down from 12,000 to 45,000, back up and down. If its doing any kind of acrobatics in the air its sucking fuel in a big way. I dont know how it can stay in the air. You agree . Yeah. Absolutely, i do. But then remember the inmarsat information about those axrcarcs calculated if it stayed at 35,000 feet. Again as tom pointed out we had so much information going back and forth and i tend to dispute this 12,000 because of the fact, my information required even military radar is not accurate with altitudes. They can tell you where its going, what the speed is but as far as altitude im not confident thats a real reliable altitude. Thats why we have you guys here to help us tuned information were getting. Great to have you all here. Stay with us please. Were going to returntoflight 370 coverage in just a moment but right now to the hague in the netherlands where president obama is meeting with fellow World Leaders. The original intent was to talk about Nuclear Security but as you can imagine the focus of the talks will shift to the crisis ongoing in the ukraine. Obviously thats because overnight Russian Troops stormed and seized a Ukrainian Naval base in crimea. 80 ukrainian troops were captured. Reporter its clear the situation in ukraine is going to come to nature these discussions especially the special session with g7 leaders excluding russia late own today. Its clear early on these leaders dont want to make this session all about that. Already this morning there were some announcements made. Many are here for the Nuclear Summit organized by president obama three years ago and some of the nations involved, japan, italy, belgium had announced they are going to remove large amounts of highly enriched Nuclear Materials from their countries. On other topics, netherlands will join the u. S. And other nations in stopping the International Public funding of coal fired power plants trying to make a more equal Playing Field for the creation of more green energy. But, yes, the world will be watching on the ukraine situation to see if there is an additional response. More action taken or more plans made as regards russia in this ongoing and some might say escalating crisis in ukraine. We appreciate that. We turn to a scene, a devastating scene thats unfolded in Washington State. An enormous mudslide occurred there and swallowed up an entire neighborhood wiped out by a kbi giant wall of mud. Eight people have been killed. Searchers are hoping more survivors are somewhere under all that mud and debris. Lets go to George Howell in arlington, washington for the latest. Reporter good morning. The land where this happened 20 miles east of where we are here in arlington, washington, still very much unstable. Delicate matter there and very hard to search. The number of residents who were displaced by all this is uncertain. What we do know a dozen residents are still unaccounted for and the death toll went up late last night from four to eight. Is the devastation, of course, is overwhelming. Reporter officials call the Search Mission in washington devastating. There was no sign of life. The only thing i can report is we found one deceased victim. Reporter the site of this hill came crashing town on the small town of oso saturday morning burying seat road 530. These before and after photos of the area captured the incredible scope of the devastation. Oh, my gosh. Reporter this cell phone video was shot from the ground right after the hillside swollen by recent heavy rains gave way, covering an area of land about a skbar mile wide. It slid a couple of times in my life but never nothing like this. Total devastation. This is unbelievable. Reporter Officials Say the moving slurry like quick sand made sundays rescue efforts on foot far too dangerous. Those who were saved had to be airlifted to safety as the active rescue continues many families are still left with uncertainty. You can imagine their devastation, worrying about their Family Members. Were an active rescue effort right now. Reporter carolines 52yearold father steven is among the missing. We have to think hes somewhere and safe. Reporter 16 homes were damaged. At least six destroyed. One of them you see here cemented in mud. George, heres the question. Are they concerned about the stability of that land . Are they worried about other slides happening . Reporter the answer to that is absolutely. And heres why. I can tell you from my experience working as a reporter in this market. Ive covered many mudslides. This is the time for it. Its because of the land, the terrain here. Its called glacial till. Mixture of big boulders of powdery stone. Its porous. Whenever you get a lot of rain people know many parts of the land here are susceptible to land slides. They know it can happen in any situation here with this particular case and the bad news is this. Today is a good sunny day but in the next few days theres rain in the forecast so today will be key. A concern for rescuers and searchers in that area. Thanks. Next up for us on new day more cnns in depth coverage on the search of flight 370. What is it like for pilots looking for debris. Bold got a chance to fly with new zealands Royal Air Force. Thats next. Predicting the future is a pretty difficult thing to do. But, manufacturing in the United States means advanced technology. 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Welcome back to new day everyone im joining you live in perth, australia once again this morning with breaking news in the search for flight 370. Overnight australian and chinese jet pilots, search pilots, search planes rather spotted floating objects in the southern indian ocean. Its not clear, those whether its debris from the missing jetliner. That, of course, continues in this investigation. Joining me to talk about all of this is editorinchief and managing director of airline rating, jeffrey thomas. Important to get your insight here because everyone is looking for a break here. Some clue to find out first what happened to the plane and then we can talk about why, of course. What do you make of the news coming you want especially the objects spotted by this australian search plane. They seem to be getting a lot of attention. They got color, green or gray and orange and one circular, one is rectangular. Do you think this is significant . This debris is snarngts compared with the chinese debris identified earlier in the day. The momentum is building that were absolutely on to what might be the end of 370. And, i ought it was also significant. I went up with the new zealand search crew yesterday and one of the things they told me in the flight if we spot something the first thing we do is radio one of the ships to try to get them nearby. That seems to be maybe the key here to the success is that the hma success, the australian ship is close by. In fact the latest information we just had is its very close to the debris that was identified. Hopefully they can pick it up tonight. Thats a distinct possibility. How long do you think it would be, i guess it depends on the quality of what the object is, but wouldnt it be Pretty Simple to say is this part of the missing jet . It could absolutely. It could have some very simple identification on it. They could even radio back tonight and say yes we found something. Thats something obviously i want to track. I want to get your take on a couple of other things. One thing i found interesting is this conversation about lithium batteries in the cargo. We were told today by malaysian officials it was 200 kilograms of lithium batteries. I had a camera battery was one kilo and 200 camera battleries that we had. Does that sound excessive to you . No. They transport lithium batteries a lot by aircraft. However, when you do have a lithium fire, it is very dangerous. And very final. Theres two aircraft, two cargo aircraft lost in the last four years with lithium charge jobs with lithium battery fires. You lose them within 30 minutes. Its that final. This airplane, supposedly flew on for seven hours. I dont believe its a lithium battery issue. Those two things might be difficult to put together. Indeed. Let me ask you about another thing coming out this idea being reported that military radar tracked the flight after the turn descended to an altitude of about 12,000 feet before it went off the radar. For the ininitiated that seems pretty low. Indeed. I mean there are a lot of theories but going to 12,000 feet and we even had reports of as low as 5,000 feet. If it did that, for whatever reason, to be off the coast of Western Australia it would have had to climb back up to 37,000 feet. Why is that . Because at 12,000 feet or 5,000 feet it burns too much fuel. It could never make that distance. So distance has been calculated on a six hour, seven hour flight at a certain altitude, certain range. Thats where it ended up off the coast of western awe usa. Thats if the dead debris is from 370. Like so many smart minds talking about this youre not holding on to one theory north. Pieces of this puzzle dont fit together at all. No. As an individual yes that could happen. As a collective and if that debris is 370 then a lot of these theories dont santiago. First things first. Lets find out if this is the debris and then we can Start Talking about not just what happened but why this happened to 370. Indeed. Jeffrey thomas, great to see you. Thanks so much. Well take a break. Coming up next on new day i had a chance to fly with new zealands Royal Air Force looking for the missing jetliner or at least some missing debris and youll get to see what they are up against ahead. At farmers we make you smarter about your insurance, because what you dont know can hurt you. What if you didnt know that taking pictures of your belongings helps when you have a claim . Or that farmers offers a policy thatll replace your car with a new one, if its totalled within the first two model years. And that parking near a street lamp deters thieves. The more you know, the better you can plan for whats ahead. Talk to farmers and get smarter about your insurance. We are farmers. Welcome back. Im joining you live from perth, australia this morning. Its been 17 days since malaysia Airlines Flight 370 vanished from radar screens with 239 people on board. Overnight australian and chinese pilots separately spotted objects floating in the southern indian ocean. The search area is one of the most remote places on the planet and it is vast. To say its like searching for a needle in a haystack would be kind. I had the chance to fly with the team from the Royal New Zealand air force to find out firsthand what its like to be part of this historic mission. The job of searching for flight 370 from the air, such a challenge it requires multiple planes from multiple countries. Sunday the u. S. , australia, china and new zealand all joined in the search. Were about to jump on new zealands p3 orion to see the search for ourselves. A smooth takeoff in blue skies ahead as the p3 climbs to 23,000 feet and cruises to the search zone some 1300 miles from perth. This is one of eight flights heading out sunday. On board a 12 person crew and three journalists including me with a small handheld camera. We now reached the search area. Four hours in and sitting through the flight you truly begin to understand just how remote this area is. Well be descending down to ideally around 500 feet for a visual search. Reporter weather conditions out here change in a split second. One moment almost zero visibility. The next, the fog vanishes and its clear for miles. Either way, ocean as far as the eye can see. Hopefully today will be the day we fine something. Reporter they use hitech radar and special cameras to search the Ocean Surface but it comes down to something very low tech, simply looking out the window that new zealands number 5 squadron relies on most. We usually do about a half an hour to hour time at the most. Its quite fatigue on the eyes and body and we change over quite regularly. Reporter i even take a turn. Took being for signs of anything unusual, scanning the water, afraid to blink thinking i might miss that one clue and then the waves Start Playing tricks on your eyes. After a four hour search covering nearly 930 square males the light begins to fade and with it the optimism this would be the day that number 5 squadron would solve the mystery of flight 370s fate. Unfortunately we didnt find anything. Its quite disappointing we didnt. We want to be out there helping. Reporter the return flight three thundershowers base making it a 10 1 2 hour journey, one more expedition ending with no sign of the plane but that wont stop them. Well try again next time. Try again tomorrow. To put this in more perspective. We covered 930 square miles during our flight. Sundays search by eight planes all together covered about 23,000 square miles and that is just a tiny sliver of the total search area that malaysian authorities and all of the nations involved now have highlighted in this southern corridor, along the southern indian ocean. Well see what these latest reports of objects being cited, what those bring as we continue to follow the search for flight 370. Lets turn now to Christine Romans in new york with five thing you need to know. Number one as we mentioned australian and chinese pilots both spot floating objects overnight in the south indian ocean. We could find out if they are from flight 370 within hours. Searchers hoping to find more survivors after a monster mudslide wiped out a neighborhood in Washington State. At least eight people were killed. The slide blamed on recent heavy rainfall. President Obama Meeting with fellow World Leaders at the hague in the netherlands. They will hold crisis talks on ukraine during the summit. 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Now theres a ship that could be there within hours. Thats great news. When you have a visual from the air thats one thing. You have a limited amount of time you can stay on top of the target. Now a ship in the location you have redundancy and persistent stare over the target. Thats great news to zero in, narrow the search area and get confirmation. We have no sense if the debris spotted from this planes and hoped to be reached by this surface vessel if its attached to flight 370. But if it is then the next step will to be piece together where the plane perhaps went down, debris would mean that the plane went down somewhere. Next step is to find the black box. U. S. Navy sending key search equipment. Explain what it is and what it does. Its a system that comes from a ship, it will go below the surface and look very, very deep and ping and talk, to hopefully, pick up whatever is down there to include the black box in particular because it will sporngsd it will chirp and keep talking and picked up and very narrowly look at that specific location. If they find the debris within this search area doesnt necessarily mean the black box would be found within that search area because could it have drifted. Youll have surface currents and subsurface currents. Things are moving different speeds, different location. One of the most interesting developments. The satellite technology. Last week we were getting these images from first the american satellite image that went to the australians and chinese satellite. There was a four day lag time there. Now a french satellite has taken some pictures within this area just yesterday and it spotted debris. What does that mean . Are they improving on how quickly they can get this information processed . Its political decision. You hold on to it. You can decimate it within minutes. You can get that information you can decimate it literally within minutes. The decision to only disseminate it within days they want to confirm it or had other motivation. One thing i was surprised about once they honed in on this area i wondered why was it that we werent seeing more satellite pictures, more satellite images. It seems to me you know the area you want to search they could devote more assets to it almost immediately. You say not so fast largely because of where this is. This is what we call an economy of force. There isnt anything down here that would cause the United States or even commercial satellites to spend time and effort and a lot of money to have a satellite that would have this as a routine area where it would look. Theres no National Security or commercial value to this part of the world. Theres nothing there. Look where were standing. Were in the middle of the ocean. Satellites are pointed up there, the socalled northern corridor. Yes. Primarily because of the proximity to china, rush, areas where weve been fighting, had a couple of wars in that part of the world. Its not unusual we would have very good coverage up here and it has to do with a bunch of what i call the physics of our satellite bases and where they are located. This is a priority. This is not. Had that plane, one of the theories could it have flown south in the southern arc here but there was talk about the northern arc which would have brought the plane all the way up here. You dont think thats possible. Absolutely. There one have been so many indicators if an aircraft had gone in that direction. All these nations have their own radars. We have satellites that would have picked that you want. The lack of information would allow us with greater confidence to focus down here. Great to have you here. 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Now, quit on your own terms with nicorette or nicoderm cq. Good to have you back with us on new day. Disappearance of malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is one of the biggest aviation mysteries in modern history. While search teams spot objects in the indian ocean could they be the planes debris. Are there changes to prevent this from happening this again. Jeff wise is here to talk through some of these things. Because there are things we can learn, so why dont we walk through some of these technological advances that could be question mark made. Cameras in the cockpit. One thing that i think people fine surprising in this age of modern technology is that, you know, there arent more images and data coming from the cockpit. What about putting a camera in the cockpit . It would technologically be the simplest thing in the world. The reason it hasnt been done is because pilots dont want intrusion into their privacy. Its a pilots union issue. And there also is the question what would we learn . We got the cockpit audio. What additional would we know from being able to look at them. These are people sitting in chairs and manipulating controls. Now there are cases where people have broken into the cockpits and things have happened like that. With all these things were talking about right now its a question of cost versus benefit. This will cost money. What do we get. What we have to remember about this incident its unprecedented. We dont know how rare it is. Our information is so sketchy at this point. The little we do know points at this being a very unprecedented incident. Lets look at this next thing. Theres so much discussion about the flight data recorder. One of the pounts is that it has a finite amount of battery life in this black box thats actually orange. It only has 30 days. Why not extend the battery life. Through each generation since people first started putting black boxes on airplanes the capability, the robustness has increased. You know so you say lets design a system that will go in planes and record data in case they crash. Starting from that, okay how long should we make it go. Whats a reasonable amount of time. A month is pretty long, in most cases its been plenty. Except now we got what just two weeks left on it and i think people are feeling the pressure and anxiety. Dont forget the case thats most similar air prance 447 same kind of black box the pinger didnt work. Question of how long will it ping didnt really dmom to play because it didnt work period. Another thing the voice data recorder only two hours, the two hours and then it kind of rerecords over the top of it. Any other circumstance that seems normal but in a situation like this this could work against us . Its usually the part just before you think it ground thats most interesting. Again pilot privacy. Thats what cuts it two hours. The data recorder thats recording parameters, 36 hours. Another thing is more information, we talked about the cloud, satellite technology. What about the idea of installing a Data Transmission system thats hardwired into the plane and can you not manually disable it. The fact you bring up the question unable to manually disable it. Thats something new because of this case. We never had to worry about not trusting the pilots. Theres been a couple of rogue cases, suicides, so forth, but for the most part pilots are the bedrock of the system. Its this change of psychology thats really i think the story. This technology exists. Can you go to a trade show, an aircraft show and buy something for your sees narcotics your little plane. Why the not the commercial Airline Industry . It goes back to cost. It is needed . Very few case where this san issue. What about data live stream . Same version. In a way, what youre doing with acards in the air france crash every minute the plane was automatically broadcasting maintenance information. That was key in finding the plane. That was the first hard data we had. So that kind of served that function. Its not too hard to do. Two questions lastly what are the chance that any of this will be added. You talked about cost benefit. Obviously they are doing that analysis. Second question whats in the pipeline that actually will be implemented. Great questions. As for the first one no change will be implemented until we find out what happened. We dont want to rush and spend gazillion dollars until we know what happened. Every plane youve been on is different because of accidents happening in the past. You think of any famous crash in the last 20 years that resulted in changes in procedure, changes in equipment that have made us all safer. We tend not to see a repeat of incidents. We dont know what this incident is about. Its almost too early for us to have a discussion about specifics but these are things investigators, airlines, et cetera, faa will be looking at to see what can be implemented. Always, jeff wise, we appreciate it. Well take a short break on new day and change directions. How about a little good stuff. A georgia teens quick thinking saves a life during a baseball game. Wait until you hear who he rescued, you certainly dont want to miss todays good stuff. Mine was earned in korea in 1953. Afghanistan, in 2009. Orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once its earned, usaa Auto Insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. Because it offers a superior level of protection. And because usaas commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. Begin your legacy. Get an Auto Insurance quote. Usaa. We know what it means to serve. The was a truly amazing day. Without angies list, i dont know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. For over 18 years weve helped people take care of the things that matter most. Join today at angieslist. Com we need some good stuff for monday. In todays edition a georgia teens selflessness helped safe a mans life. It happened between second and Third Innings a baseball game between newton and rockdale high schools. The umpire collapsed. Thats when the 16yearold alex norwood said his instincts kicked in. He called 911 and asked if anybody knew cpr. I got certified. I checked for a pulse and started to do compressions. It took many on the field including his baseball coach by surprise. I thought i would turn around and see a professional an emt worker thats how confident the voice behind me was and when i turn around and saw alex. Alex went to work, he performed cpr on the umpire until the emt team arrived. The umpire was taken to an atlanta area hospital. Hes anyone tensive care. But he is alive. Undoubtedly due to a High School Senior or High School Junior and, obviously, even alex said, this is an important reminder of the importance of cpr training. Absolutely. So important. I hope that umpire gets back on the field and gives that kid the biggest strike zone ever. Thats fantastic. Most valuable player for sure. Home grown great stuff now to talk about. We have a new addition to the new day family. Our audio designer james just had a baby girl named liberty. Shes perfection. She was born saturday 6 pounds 10 ounces, mom sharon and liberty are doing great. Do i find a little bit of irony in the name of liberty. Lets see how they enjoy their freedom now they have liberty with them. Says the father of twins. Congratulation, james. Thats wonderful. Cant quite squeeze her. Kate is continuing her reporting in Perth Australia tomorrow. Theres a lot of news. Thats why we go the newsroom with carol stello. Thanks guys. Newsroom starts right now. Happening now in the newsroom breaking overnight, dramatic new leads emerge in the search for flight 370. New objects found in the search area and new details about the flight path. Why did the plane drop to 12,000 feet . That plane came down to 12,000 feet then were wasting a lot of time picking up trash in the south indian ocean because it couldnt have flown that far. New Satellite Photos and new details on the planes cargo and how many of those lithium batteries the plane was carrying. 440 pounds of lithium batteries in the cargo hold. Sometimes they can catch fire. Is that a lot . Cnn on the ground and tg