0 bikers who was there. the first three days of obama care have been pretty rocky but has it gotten any better? dr. sanjay gupta is in a bus, fielding questions about people trying to sign up. he'll have a live report. here's the latest with the government shutdown. there are no compromises, no deals and, frankly, no surprises. let's bring in brianna keilar, kicking off our coverage live from the white house. leaders of both parties finally agreeing to meet with the president. they talk for an hour and what happens, brianna? good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning to you, chris. not a whole lot. that is the headline. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell called the meeting unproductive. sadly, that may be the one point where there was bipartisan agreement. for the first time since the government shut down, congressional leaders met face-to-face with president obama at the white house wednesday night. both sides emerging with no deal and no signs of progress to end the stalemate. >> the president reiterated one more time tonight that he will not negotiate. >> we're through playing these little games. >> reporter: republicans still demanding president obama accept a delay to his signature health care program. >> all we're asking for is a discussion and fairness for the american people under obama care. >> am i exasperated? absolutely i'm exasperated. >> reporter: in an interview with cnbc, the president reiterated that he won't give in on obama care but said he will negotiate on budgetary issues like taxes, spending, entitlement reform if the republicans first agree to re-open the government for several weeks. >> we have a situation right now where if john boehner, the speaker of the house, puts a bill on the floor to re-open the government at current funding levels, so that we can then negotiate on a real budget that allows us to stop governing from crisis to crisis, it would pass. >> reporter: the president is probably right. but that's not happening anytime soon. instead, house republicans held votes again on funding the government in a piecemeal way, that the senate will surely reject. meanwhile, not far from the capitol, the world war ii memorial, operated by the largely shuttered national park service has become a proxy in this battle. to counter images of world war ii vets showing up to the barricaded memorial, the rnc offering to pay to keep it open. >> our veterans deserve the freedom to see this memorial. we're willing to pay the bill. now it's up to the president just to let them in. >> reporter: that is just what happened. the national park service saying it will keep that memorial open for world war ii veterans, an outrageous image off the table. we understand the rnc will not be picking up the tab. >> brianna, thanks for starting us off this morning. as washington squabbles, the american people are facing real consequences from federal food regulation to fears that our national security is at risk. the shutdown fallout has wide-reaching impact on daily life. the question no one, though, has an answer for, when will furloughed workers get back to work? rene marsh is at the lincoln memorial this morning with more. good morning, rene. >> reporter: good morning, kate. day three the lincoln memorial still closed this morning. there are hundreds of thousands of federal workers, their lives still in limbo this morning. they really do not know when this will all end. instead of starting their day at the office -- >> let us do our work. >> reporter: -- these furloughed workers are manning the picket low. >> being place in a furlough status. >> reporter: for the nearly 800,000 federal civil service workers they're now nonessential status is a slap in the face. >> you think? yes, i'm upset. >> i still have to put food on the table and pay my bills. >> reporter: people living on this military base in hawaii stocking up before their commissary closes down. >> i came to grab a couple things. i started getting a little panicked by when i saw how empty all the shelves were. >> reporter: the shutdown could also affect food safety. >> here at fda headquarters in maryland they've been hit hard by the shutdown, several hundred food safety inspectors have been furloughed. that means people who watch out for the safety of our eggs, produce and seafood, several hundred of them furloughed. it does increase the risk of food-borne illness and some kind of an outbreak. >> reporter: empty hallways at the centers for disease control as well. >> we're out of the office on furlough and unable to take your call. >> i'm concern for the experts that we have here. what is it that might be happening. >> reporter: even more painful, reynolds says, because of the shutdown, the cdc can't support its annual flu program just as the season is arriving. the impact is being felt beyond the cdc's walls. >> the manager tells us sales are down here. they've even had to cut back on employee hours. he says most of the people who typically fill up these tables during the busy lunch hour work across the street at the cdc. >> i've cut back my staff significantly. a lot of my staff have young children as well. it's making an immediate impact. >> reporter: the shutdown also complicating the search for a missing woman in idaho. >> here at this idaho national monument, whichas you can see, park rangers are continuing their search for a missing woman, that's whether they get paid or not. the national park service gave them a green light to continue their search for a missing 63-year-old doctor. the expectation is they'll eventually get paid for their hours but there's no guarantee. >> reporter: meanwhile, the majority of national parks and monuments remain closed. we can tell you that the army's college football game in boston will go on as scheduled this weekend as well as the navy versus the air force game. chris and kate, back to you. >> all right, rene, thanks so much. you see the small impact. a football game isn't really big impact of the shutdown but it just shows how unsettling it is and how it's impacted so many lives. >> the longer it goes, the worse it will get. a shutdown is one story but a lot of news. we get to michaela. news developing right now, in fact breaking. at least 88 people have died after a boat capsized and caught fire off the italian island of lampedusa. we go live to rome right now. ben wedeman is joining us. >> reporter: the italian coast guard telling us they've rescued 163 people, my grants coming from, according to the coast guard, somalia, eritrea, ghana and other nations. they believe the boat could have held as many as 500 people. this has been an issue for years now, my granigrants coming froma to the middle east to the southern italian coast and island. just last night, 463 syrian refugees landed safely in the lampedusa and the island of lampedusa as well. right now, the coast guard still conducting these operations off the coast of lampedusa. government boosting computer capacity to handle unexpectedly strong obama care web traffic. obama administration officials say servers are being added and the system is being streamlined to improve performance. the health care.gov website. dr. sanjay gupta is on the road. he'll join us later in the show with more. tragedy on a highway in tennessee. eight people killed. when a church bus blew a tire and crossed the median on interstate 40, colliding with an suv and a tractor-trailer before flipping over. six senior citizens on the bus died, along with the driver of the tractor-trailer. and a passenger in the suv. more than a dozen other people also injured. you might recall this dangerous hard landing over the summer. it's now cost a southwest airlines pilot his job. that captain with 13 years experience decided to take the controls from his co-pilot just seconds before landing at new york's laguardia airport. the plane came down nose first breaking the landing gear and sending that plane skidding down runway. ten passengers were hurt. the first officer will receive additional training. here we go. we have not discussed this on "new day" yet where you stand on the issue of big foot. you be the judge. these are pictures from a group called the sasquatch project. they were leased by an entrepreneur trying to promote a documentary. cnn regrettably not able to confirm whether or not this is indeed big foot. we haven't discussed it yet. where do you stand? >> i don't have a position. i try to be very agnostic when it comes to the conspiracy. this is straight out of an episode of "newsroom." >> i feel both of you missed a great opportunity. you should have said there's big foot. >> you actually -- >> no. >> the thought came and i said i love it so much i'm not going to do it. >> so obvious i'm going to insult myself. >> let's go to indra petersons, our meteorologist. >> wait a minute here. >> am i hairy, do i have big feet? what are we going with? >> you with the big feet and a lot of hair. >> that would be me. i want you to pay attention to what could be our next tropical storm karen. there's a high chance we see this develop. the difference between yesterday and today, this is a spaghetti model. it shows you the weather models and where they think it will go. some of the models took it through texas and the panhandle of florida. we're seeing this narrow down as far as where it could go. one of the models, this is the european model here, it makes landfall here, most likely about late saturday evening, kind of around new orleans, biloxi. not a strong system. if it develops right now, we're talking about a strong tropical depression or weak tropical storm. that's what we're looking at. the rip tide it makes its way in, strong winds and the flooding concerns with heavy rain. right around the gulf itself, about 4 inches of rain. it continues to make its way further in, 1 to 4 inches of rain around arkansas. we continue to watch this midpath as we go through the weekend here for further developments on this one. into the northeast, still beautiful. just like yesterday. temperatures, 10, 15 degrees above average again. but i try to put clouds on all of your three days here. really to show you that will start to change even though the temperatures stay up there. there is a system that will make its way through with a chance of rain. we see that around the midwest and even a chance for severe weather. 1 to 2 inches of rain we don't see the heavy thunderstorms but if you're in iowa or nebraska, even the threat for tornadoes with most likely large hail and strong thunderstorms in that region. otherwise it continues to make its way east overnight tonight and in through tomorrow. the northeast, you'll be talking about that threat for rain. the big thing is we'll be that tropical storm this weekend. if it does develop, we'll watch it. >> thanks, indra. >> we'll take a break. coming up on "new day," new developments in the 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