but -- there's a real big but -- does he need bill clinton to win? let's go "outfront" i'm erin burnett. unemployment jumps 8% chblt that's the lowest level for unemployment in about three years. it's a big headline, but a closer look, 120,000 jobs added last month isn't great. that's barely enough to keep up with population growth, let alone put a dent in the 9 million jobs lost in the great recession. still, the president hopes americans will focus on the unemployment rate. and he's also hoping he can get some of what this guy has. oh, that bill. he has the love. he has the love of so many voters. recently some republicans said bill clinton isn't sold on barack obama term two. but the two men appeared together at a green building event in washington today. >> i am thrilled that president clinton has been willing to take this on. partly thanks to me he's home alone too often. and this has been a passion for him for quite some time. >> president obama needs all the bill he can get. bill clinton's book "back to work", example number one of the former president's popularity. it's the number one book on amazon. number ten on "the new york times" best seller list. and his approval rating is at a high sky 63%. can you imagine if that were the margin in the election of a vote. now that's a mandate. compare that to obama's 20 points lower at 44%. okay. bill. he needs you. but are you going to be there for him? james carville is former adviser to bill clinton. david gergen is our senior political analyst and another former adviser to bill clinton. john avalon is with us as well. all right, james carville, what is going on here? you see bill clinton with barack obama. this is at a green building. it's a cause of the former president's. you're not seeing them together at a lot of things. you know, bill clinton has far from wholeheartedly giving barack obama a bear hug. >> i bet you anything that president obama spends more time than the last democratic president than the republican nominee spends with the last republican president. that i'm very comfortable in saying. >> it depends. nominee of the week. >> former presidents have a very difficult job. they are kind of to be seen, not heard. and it's a delicate balancing act. obviously the president supported president obama in 2008. he's going to go for him as much as is appropriate in 2012. >> what is all out, though? >> well, as much as he needs him. elections are won by the candidate who connects to moderates in the middle class. no one has done it better than bill clinton. he was able to focus on the economy and make the forgotten middle class feel like they have an advocate in the white house. that's exactly what barack obama needs to do going into the election. >> david gergen, there is a way for barack obama to get more clinton. and that might not be to get more bill clinton, but to get more hillary clinton. look at her approval rating at 69%. trumps her husband's. >> that's absolutely right. there may be a good chance that later on they will get together. everybody is asking what is the possibility of hillary being on the the ticket and swapping joe booiden to the state department? come summer he's in a very tight race, president obama is in a tight race. he may want to play the card. i'm not sure hillary clinton wants to do it or joe biden wants to do it, but the president may have persuasive power. i want to go back to be bill clinton. there's no question, as james carville said, there's no question bill clinton will be supportive of barack obama during the campaign. the obama people will want to showcase him at the democratic convention in charlotte. this next year. but the real way to draw upon bill clinton's strength is to ask him for more help on creating jobs. bill clinton has a book out now. he had a central idea about a year ago to create far more green jobs, to retrofit the buildings. he didn't get a very warm reception in the white house. and i do think it would be possible, i think it would be wise, just as this president reached out to hillary for help on foreign policy. >> he does, john avalon, and i know there are nuances on this, that president clinton said he doesn't want to raise taxes during a recession. >> yeah. >> president obama has some plans in there that would raise taxes on some people, the wealthiest americans, which bill clinton is not against. there is an important nuance there. >> there is. bill clinton raised taxes as part of the first budget deal. a lat of the focus on reengineering the economy and building the middle class. barack obama knows that bill clinton particularly in the swing states. if he wants to really put north carolina in play, bill clinton is invaluable. it's also the economic prescriptions, putting those in actions. which they took for the jobs bill. >> in the eyes. you talked about president obama's real problem with the independents. >> absolutely. independents. >> this always interested me. the unemployment rate is 8%. that's a big drop. it's based on a survey of american who is pick up the telephone and say do i have a job or not? payroll number is not good. but if people are self reporting an improving job market, is that unemployment rate really the number that's going to predict who wins the election? >> i don't know. the rate is high, and it will probably be high as 7.4 is the highest. as long as a president like it was 140,000 private sector jobs that were created, i mean, one of the problems is we filled half a million public sector jobs. but i think if there's improvement it will probably be to the president's benefit. and as of now, as of now, you know, that very important caveat, it seems the job market is improving, which can only be interpreted as pretty good news for the president. >> how does he play that, though? with the whole of 9 million jobs, and not even keeping up with population growth with new job creation, how does he sell the "improving, buy into my side" story. >> there are some signs. if things go bad in europe as we've talked about before, this economy could stall or even go down again. so i think what he needs to be doing now is be seen as actively working to improve things. and doi believe that in the last few weeks he's almost been rather passive in the sense of governing. he's been much more of the campaigner. and what i think is important for the next few months is for him to come back to the white house and govern, and be working hard on i have to get the payroll tax cuts extended and do the other things that may help create more jobs. >> thanks to all three. we appreciate it. by the way, mitt romney, talking about the unemployment numbers. mitt romney posing with his extended family. we're going to talk about the personal side of him in just a moment. but also florida missing mom michelle parker disappeared two weeks ago. we've been talking about her story. her sister is out front with the latest. and newt widening his lead on the gop side of things. can anyone hope to catch him? 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[ male announcer ] ask your doctor if cialis for daily use is right for you. for a 30-tablet free trial offer, go to cialis.com. i take leadership seriously, even though we don't take ourselves too seriously. these people want me to make the right choices. and to stop making the coffee. all i know is that i've made the decisions that i hope let them believe as much in me as i do in them. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. if you're a business owner, we have financial strategies to help. jon corzine has been subpoenaed by the house agriculture committee to testify next week. they're looking into the collapse of mf global which filed for bankruptcy september 1st. it's the biggest financial failure in america since lehman brothers. the investigators are still trying to find up to $1.2 million missing from the customer accounts. jon corzine is the former ceo of goldman sachs. that's how many resigned after willy free was appointed a the trustee in charge of overseeing the company's liquidation. free has been a busy man. he's also heading the investigation of the penn state child sex abuse scandal. it's been a crazy week in politics. john avalon is here to tell us what happened and give us the rankings of the week. i don't know if it's how big or bright someone looks on your screen. how does it fall? >> it's getting cold outside, but politics is heating up. so this is our way of gauging who has the big mo, using polls , analysis, seeing what happened next week. a couple weeks ago this is how it might look. mitt romney on top. the best campaigner. herman cane, getting over the sexual allegations. his supporters staying with him. ron paul and newt gingrich in the middle of the pack. at the bottom jon huntsman is not getting any love. herman cain on monday begins with a terrible week. ginger white, 13-year affair. by the end of the week he's running ads using the guy with a lie detector tests. >> in my exam he is being truthful. but the allegations of saying she was sexually assaulted by him did not occur. >> just keeps getting weirder. doesn't it. then mitt romney had a bad weekend. polls falling across the board. a very testy interview with brett barry. >> you're wrong, brett. the tape out there -- continue to tread the tape. >> the normally unflappable mitt definitely getting rattled by bad news. best week, newt gingrich soaring high in all the polls. it just might be going to his head. listen to what he told abc news. >> it's hard not to look at the recent polls and think the odds are very high i'm going to be the nominee. >> feeling pretty good about himself, isn't he? he's got reason to. let's look at the political power numbers. newt gingrich on top. he's soaring in every state. mitt romney u hanging in at number two. he want this is. he's been up there all the time. it would be foolish to write him out. ron paul in the winner's circle. his supporters are intense. don't count him out. jon huntsman, the big sur prize. why is he number four? he's inching ahead in new hampshire. he's going to do a lincoln douglas style debate with newt gingrich in new hampshire. he's got mo behind him. the bottom of the pack, herman cain is number six. he's still got all our attention. tomorrow he's making a major announce. . tonight he's talking with his wife. that's pretty tough f here's why he's got power. even if he gets out of the race, who he tell ls supporters to go to will shake up the race. who is the biggest mover of the week is this no question, it's the newtster. biggest loser has to be the m hermanator. >> i like that. >> got to have some fun with it. >> let's bring in david gergen. david is back with us because you've got a special look at what's going on with mr. romney. the republican strategist alex caselanos is with us as well. david, let me start with you. you interviewed mitt romney a few weeks ago. this is what's going to come out. hits stands on sunday. there it is. and i want to ask you more about this. how do you think first of all mitt romney's week has been? seeing newt gingrich fly like a phoenix to the top? >> i think it's been a very rough week for him. john avalon had it exactly right. when just about a week or ten days ago, mitt romney was running in trade. that's where the betting occurs on who will get the nomination. and he was seen as a 70% chance of winning the nomination. maybe 69%. today he's less than 50. or newt gingrich is surging. is mitt romney still the man to beat? i think yes. but for the first time he has a serious rival on his hands. if newt gingrich can go through the process that's coming, and he knows that, and emerge on january 1 as a standing rival, romney could be in trouble. the real question is what does he do for his campaign to give him momentum? >> alex caselanos, i want to get your view. let me ask you a quote about mitt romney. quoting rocky anderson saying quote, romney in a word is human. he's much funnier than he comes across. that's for sure. >> and when you meet him, as i did years ago, last campaign i worked for him, he's this wonderful, genuine guy. and then you see him on tv, and he looks so perfect, and we think perfection is false, most of us, because we know how hard it is. so he does have that kind of problem. but i'll tell you the story for example. i recommend his piece to everybody. it's not just where they stand on the issues. who are they as people. you never know the crisises. he said my daughter is lost in new york city, what do i do? he shut down the business. took everybody to new york city, set up a command center to find the girl. fortunately, they did. that's mitt romney. i think what he needs to do to win this election if he wants to is, tell me who you are. tell me what's important to you. and i think david got to that in the parade issue. >> so david, tell us what you found. in this piece you have lots of pictures of mi the, t with his family. he likes to sit on the couch and watch "modern family" among other things. what did you find out about mitt romney that surprised you, as someone who has worked with so many presidents and in so many campaigns? >> well, i think alex is putting us exactly on the right trail. that's the mitt romney that we see behind the podium is highly compete competent, but he also seems robotic, even scripted. that's only a piece of who he is. what you see when you go into his home is a much more relaxed mitt romney and a much more human mitt romney. i was quite struck, erin, when ann romney walked into the room, he literally lit up. his whole body language changed. and it became apparent in talking to him that his life rotates around her a lot more than you might ever think. hi said, and i verified with her, that she was the one who talked him into running. he had reluctance. she said the same thing. she was the one wo talked him into going on a mormon mission years ago when he was young and he wanted to give it up and marry him. she talked him into running in the senate against teddy kennedy back in the '90s. this man is much more deeply anchored in family and in faith than i think we no. and to go to alex's point again, i think if he wants to be embraced by the american people, he's not only got to be respected. least got to establish an emotional connection. so important for the presidency. that means he has to humanize himself. open himself up to what the family needs of him. i can't believe that it is really that good, he sh that normal, and he was so lucky to meet the love of his life at 18. people don't believe it, or maybe there's a weird jealousy about someone who fate smiled upon like that. but herman cain, speaking of fate not smiling, how the media has gone for him, regardless of what really happened. he is at a meeting with his wife right now. the wife did not know ginger white, the woman who alleged a 13-year affair. >> he's making a major announcement. at the end of the day only two people can convince him to stop the campaign. himself and his wife. herman cain rose in the polls because he was authentic. it seems very different than mitt romney, for example. but we understand there's more complexity in his personal life. everyone will be watching tomorrow. we boept know until he tells us. there's probably drama going on at the scenes at the cain household. >> don't miss "parade" magazine this week to learn more about mitt and ann. a church in kentucky votes to ban interracial marriage. a woman denied permission to marry her fiance comes out. >> and blackberry makes a smart phone. but some of their employees aren't so smart. or beloved. we'll be back. an ingredient that works more naturally with your colon than stimulant laxatives, for effective relief of constipation without cramps. thanks. 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well, the stock market gave a little bit of a lift. 7% higher for the week. the dow t second best weekly point gain ever. now, there was that one big amazing day. well, thou shall not discriminate. on sunday the church voted 9-6 to ban interracial marriages. shutting the doors on stella and her fiance. they attended services at the church while visiting her parents in june. they plan to marry next summer. fwu church issued a statement this week saying parties of such marriages will not be received as members, nor will they be used in worship services and other services with the exception being funerals. and this is not a joke. the national association of free will baptist says they don't condone or disallow it and they encourage the church to reverse the decision. stella is "outfront" with us tonight. stella, we appreciate you being with us. this is a shocking story. it's hard to imagine it could still happen in this country. were you shocked when this happened? >> caller: oh, absolutely. yeah. i mean -- ever since wias a little kid. it's been a very hard process. >> how did you find out? i know your parents have been going to the church for a long time. the pastor at the time pulled your parents aside, said, you can't sing anymore because i don't want my 3-year-old granddaughter growing up thinking it's okay to marry a black man. how did -- how did you find out? how did your parents tell this to you? >> caller: well, obviously i'm not around in the area because i'm up in grad school in indiana. but it was weird because i was with a friend, staying with a african the night before, and you know, i just decided to surprise my parents with a visit. i hadn't seen them in a few weeks. this was right after they had the conversation with the former pastor. and when i came home, you know, mom was like, stella, we need to talk. i'm like, oh, no, i haven't heard this phrase since i was a teenager, you know. so that's how i learned about it. and i was just floored. as well as they were. to say we couldn't sing in church because he doesn't want his granddaughter growing up thinking it's okay to marry a black guy. i get it. people have their convictions. and it's not like i want to flaunt it in front of them, but what are they going to do? are they going to go out to a public outing and if they see an interracial couple, they're like, oh, we need you to leave because i don't want my granddaughter thinking it's okay? i still don't know how to process all of this. >> well, stella, i know that the pastor who said that comment about his granddaughter and told your parents stepped aside, not related to that decision. there is a new pastor now. but on sunday your church voted, i guess 43 people could have voted. only 15 did. 9-6 to ban interracial marriages. is this changing the whole way you see the community where you live? your church, your parents' friends? >> caller: i mean, yeah, like, i know all the members that voted ever since i was a little kid. but i have to give a shout out to my community because i'm just so overwhelmed with their support and their love. and i really don't think we would have been able to get past, you know, these few days without they're support. so i thank them for that. i'm sorry for the church itself ha has to go through this. not everyone agrees with the vote. only these nine members. as for the members that didn't take a vote, i think that hurt even more. they knew what was right, but they chose not to take a stand. i felt like the outcome could have been different if they stood up. >> that's one of the most disturbing parts. people are afraid to have their voice. the new pastor is not in favorite favor of the old pastor's decision. what is that change? you're still going to get married in that church? are your parents still going to go to that church or no? >> caller: we weren't planning on getting married in the church in the first place. and we're definitely not going to consider getting married there now. so that was never an issue. if they do overvote it, overturn the vote, my parents have expressed they will return to support the pastor. he's just a great guy and has a great heart for god. we really do think he can do great things for the church and get it back in order. so they have expressed they that will go back. i won't say never, but it's going to take a while to go back there. >> i think anyone can understand that. thank you for coming outfront and sharing your story tonight. good luck to you. >> caller: thank you. appreciate it. well, did jerry sandusky continue to have a friendly relationship with the boys he's accused of sexually abusing after the abuse ended? now, this is a question that some people are asking as the war of words heeds up among the attorneys in the case. sandusky has been charged with sexually abusing eight boys while he was an assistant coach at penn state. he's denied the alleges. earlier this week his attorney told cnn that the former football coach has been social with two of the alleged victims as recently as this past summer. >> the young man we believe to be the person in the number two allegation, and the young man we believe to be the person in the number six allegation maintained friendships with jerry and his wife dothty. >> today the attorney for victim six says sanduskies asked him to dinner and the police were aware of it and asked victim six to wear a wire which he didn't do because he was nervous. carlos diaz is out front to break the story. the big question i have is even if a person had been abused and quote/unquote still does things that seem friendly with an abuser, that doesn't mean they're okay with it or it didn't matter or it didn't happen. >> all you have to do is ask yourself one question. the prosecutor says did you shower with jerry sandusky? yes, i did. dinners, relations, none of that matters. were you naked? >> yes, i was. did he touch you? yes, he did. those questions are what matter l s. having dinners, saying we're still friends matters not. the lawyer for jerry sandusky, who we hear a lot from. we're not hearing a lot from the prosecution, because they're busy allegedly fielding new complaints from other alleged victims. the defense is out there talking to everyone that he can about, you know, how jerry sandusky is still friends with this victim and that victim, and once again we're seeing jerry sandusky trying to charm his way out of a situation. >> all right. so just to make it clear here, there would be no legal ramifications whatsoever, right, if someone who had been abused remained friendly with the abuser, right? maybe they still felt the pressure or still feel the guilt. >> hean that's the thick. it's not about whether you're having dinner with jerry sandusky. whether you think he's a great guy. all those things don't matter in the situation. it matters what happens in the grand jury testimony. over 23 pages, 15 years of accusations. and then what matters is when the children take the stand and they're questioned by the prosecution. >> thank you very much, carlos. we appreciate you taking the time tonight. it's been two weeks since michelle parker disappeared. the sister of florida's missing mom comes out front with details next. and the latest on country singer mindy mccreedy. now her mother is begging for a safe return. and there's something funny about the name dick lover. we're tying to talk to him talk to your doctor, and take care of what you have to take care of. confidence. available in color. depend for women is now peach. looks and fits like underwear. same great protection. depend. good morning. great day. we do this at the same time every night, our outer circle. we reach out to sources around the world. we start in cairo where elections took place for the first time since the fall of hosni mubarak. jim clancy is there for the results. what was turnout there like, and who won? >> reporter: erin, a record vote here. election officials say 62% or 8.5 million voters turned out to cast their ballots. some surprised, too. it appears some very hard line islamic politicians are going to be members of parliament. they want their races outright. we're still waiting to see the full details, election officials say they've been working nonstop to get those. but with 8.5 million voters casting ballots, election officials say this hasn't been seen since the time of the ph pharaos. now martin savage is in baghdad. how long did it take them to clear out, and what's the next step in the full drawdown? >> well, erierin, this drawdowns been going on for six weeks. as far as what happened today. that took only a matter of hours. just that few u.s. forces were there. th the kin to closing on a house, essentially, according to one officer. then they left. what comes next? there are still 11,000 forces in iraq, not to mention tons of gear that all continues to flow south well ahead of schedule. erin? >> martin, finally to london where jim spel spellman is keeping tabs on former prime minister berlusconi. >> today a detective testified that three of the women at one of his notorious bunga bunga parties were indeed prostitutes. he is accused of paying for sex with one of them, a then 17-year-old exotic dancer. he said he would appear at some of the trial today. he was a no show. erin? two weeks after 33-year-old michelle parker disappeared in orlando, florida, investigators are expanding the search area. parker was last seen on november 17th when she dropped her 3-year-old twins off with their father, dale smith. smith and parker were once engaged, but their relationship ended in a heated argument in the tv show "the people's court." that show aired the same day parker disappeared. dale smith has been named the primary suspect in the case. we have invited smith and his attorney to come "outfront." they have denied our request. joining us is mish r lauren anderson, michelle's sister. it's good to see both of you again. we hoped with a much better story to tell. i know you've expanded the search area and are still looking, matt. why was the search area expanded, do you know? >> at this point in time they're just trying to increase they search area, and come up with new leads. and they felt like they exhausted their awareness efforts at okay ridge. they want to move to seminole county and raise awareness down there. >> what have you heard? i'm sure they've been trying to help you. has anyone come forward with anything that made you think your sister could be nearby or you could be close to finding her? >> i mean, the police department and crime line are sifting the through thousands of tips. and since she went missing and then it went live with the crime line and everything like that, we've had thousands and thousands of tips that have come in, which i am grateful for. some have panned out. some have not. and by pan out, i mean that they fit in the time line of possibly sightings of her vehicle and things like that. >> laura, when is the last time you saw the twins? it's my understanding they don't know where their mother is but have been asking for her repeatedly? >> i saw them on monday. i got to spend a few hours with them. took them to mcdonald's. they got french fries and a happy meal and little toys to play with it. i got to spend time with them, which i was happy for. they're 3 1/2. they don't quite understand what's going on. think, say mommy's at work. >> matt, let me ask you what your view is now. at this point only dale smith has been named a suspect but he is the father of those twins. he has the custody of them now. what -- do you have any further sense as to whether he was responsible, whether you and the family think he is responsible or has your point of view changed in the past couple of days? >> our point of view remains the same and that's that we truly do hope that he had no involvement, because for the kids' sake we think that would be terrible for them to grow up with the knowledge that their father might have had something to do with their mother's disappearance, so we remain hopeful that he didn't. but you know, in regards to dale being the prime suspect, we really are leaving that in the hands of the police at this point in time and we want them to continue to explore all possible avenues, so in the event that somebody else is out there, that they're caught and brought in. >> lauren, when you and i spoke earlier this week you talked about, you were trying to remain cordial with dale because he was the father of the twins, but that he had over the years been abusive to your sister and she had confided in you about that, right? >> there were definitely times when she confided about me -- confided in me with things that happened in their relationship that definitely gives me a different opinion on things, but it's just, i don't know. it's just one of those things i'm just trying to keep my head on straight i guess. >> all right, well we hope that this is resolved quickly, and thanks to both of you again for being with us. matt morgan and lauren ericson. >> thanks. >> thank you. she's had a tunnel bat well drug addiction, now pregnant with twins and on top of that country singer mindy mccready is in violation of a court order to return her son to his grandparents. court deadline to give 5-year-old zander back came and went yesterday. a representative for mccready says the child has been with his mother the last month and she's fearful about his safety. we invited mccready to join us again tonight but she declined. the child's father, billy mcknight is here. billy, people sore curious about the story. when is the last time you talked to mindy and to zander and what did she say? >> i talked to zander about 7:30 last night and mindy later on about 9:00 last night. she sounded upset with the situation, she thinks she has a case against florida and that she was going to stay hidden, they'd have to find her. >> you said once you decided to talk to the press she decided, mindy didn't want to talk to you anymore? >> her phone has been off since last night so i haven't been able to talk to zander today. >> what's your understanding of the situation? she's saying yes she may have had her problems but zander was being mistreated and abused by his grandmother. can you explain whether you think that's true or give us a better sense of what happened? >> well, he's been down here for four years. i've gotten a really good relationship with gail and mike inge and every week or every other week we exchange zander. he's never had bruises. he's rarely ever sick. he's very happy. he loves being there. he loves being with me, so i can't see that. i don't see any signs of that whatsoever. >> and what condition is she in? obviously you all are cordial at least, right? i mean you've communicated about him and you both get to talk to him on the phone so it's not as if you all had a bad relationship, all things considered, right? >> well, right. recently we've been cordial. we went for a long time without talking. i don't really know what condition she's in right now. i do know she's pregnant. i hope she's sober and well for her babies' sakes for zander's sake and her own. i couldn't tell you what her condition is. >> do you know when you might get to see zander again? did she talk about that with you last night or no? >> she said i would be able to come where she is, however, that she didn't tell me where she is. she said that she will be able to prove things are wrong with lee county and i would be able to come up there and visit and that's not how i want to do things. he's been down here. he's away from his home and it worries me, that he's okay. >> billy, thank you for sharing your side of the story. >> thank you for having me. >> i hope you see him real soon. next on "out front" we're going to the front line, an exclusive prex exclusive preview of our trip next. it's like having portable navigation. a bluetooth connection. a stolen vehicle locator. roadside assistance. and something that could help save your life - automatic help in a crash. it's the technology of five devices in one hard-working mirror. because life happens while you drive. this holiday, give someone you love an onstar fmv mirror for only 199. visit onstar.com for retailers. 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