Support both sides, that meant more money for him. He was the merchant of death. Nobody was able to touch him. As a former fbi agent and chairman of the house intelligence, i had oversight of all 16 of the nations intelligence agencies. My name is mike rogers. I had access to classified information gathered by our operatives. People who risked everything for the United States and our families. You dont know their faces or their names. You dont know the real stories fear and the pressure until now. A worldwide hunt is on for a russian weapons dealer who u. S. Authorities fear is every bit as dangerous as oh sbin laden. Viktor bout is a dangerous figure. They dont care who they do business with and provide weapons to drug traffickers, terrorists, human traffickers. They are basically the engine behind those groups. He facilitates that death and destruction. And the deaths of many innocence. What he did is the worst thing ive ever experienced as a dea agent. The drugs are one thing. Drugs can go away but the weapons never go away. They live on. They continue to cause conflict. Nothing good comes out of a weapon. Viktor bout spreads death and destruction. Victor boot was part of the military. He went into the service. Eventually went to the institute where you study languages in russia. He was an army translator and based in africa and saw the regimes operating there and saw the vulnerability, the fragile governments. So after the fall of the soviet empire through his time in the military and connections, he knew he could access russian aircraft to transport cargo. In 1991. Viktor bout starts his import, export business. As the cold war ended, all these planes were laying around. And victor saw an opportunity to move western goods into the former soviet block. Goods such as tvs, cocacola, flowers, chicken and from making money from doing this is when he saw that opportunity to build up his fleet of former russian planes and it went from there. He bought the first plane at 25 and by 30 was a millionaire. He became a transport plane. His ability caused him to have a immediate your rise and expand the network around the world. As he brought merchandise, not arms necessarily into conflict zones he made connections. Sometimes those in those countries were in power needed weapons and he was very willing to satisfy that need. Thats africa. Africa is where you start off doing legitimate cargo. Well, you have the ability to move goods from point a to point b for weapons. And in these areas of the former soviet block countries, there was just tons and tons of weapons that are sitting over there that are no longer needed, so if you need weapon to go with the planes, viktor saw an opportunity to make money. He was operating there doing legitimate commodities and cargo but when he saw an opportunity to move weapons into africa, it was to make money. If he had the opportunity to support both sides, that meant more money for him. Viktor bout cared about money. Take angola for example. In 1994 viktor bout sells weapons to both sides of the conflict in angola. In 1995. Bout was selling weapons to the taliban. He had contracts with the government of rwanda to arm and train the military personnel. He chose to do what he was doing and profit from it and left behind societies completely devastated whose Family Network were destroyed. He facilitated that. Estimates of People Killed in the genocidal episodes in africa and elsewhere over a million. I know for myself and when, we spent a lot of time in africa and saw firsthand why viktor is so incredibly dangerous. So bilge governments like the United States and United Kingdom observing these atrocities, these movement of weapons from point a to point b, they felt a responsibility to address it such a big deal for the United States the National Security counsel got involved and through h their intelligence, viktor bout kept coming up and coming up. Who is this guy . He came under scrutiny and his entire network is looked at and flushed out and a concern he was a major destabilizing fig e figure. He shipped tanks to rifles into civil wars and conflicts in numerous countries and africa. United nations officials believe as payment he took drugs from afghan buyers and diamonds from africans. There was definitely, i think, the will to try to do something but there was nobody that had the ability to go after him at the areas he was operating. The thing about africa is there is no governance in africa and the fear of getting in trouble is less because who will cause you problems . People try to find a way to stop that. In 2000 the United Nations restricted viktor bouts movements based upon his involvement in supplied weapons to Charles Taylor liberiliberia. He spoke multiple languages. He was able to navigate restrictions on his travel. In 2005 office of foreign asset control announced the freezing of viktor bouts assets but going after assets doesnt put somebody in jail. Viktor bout was still flying around doing the stuff he wanted to do with no fear of someone coming after him. How do you catch someone like that and who . Deas special Operations Division focus on extra territorial or criminals. In june of 2007, we arrested kasar. That give us the confidence to go forward with viktor bout. We had the ability to penetrate them and not wait for them to do more crimes but to get involved and stop it. Were going to put boots on the ground and find a way to infiltrate viktor bouts organization and demonstrate nobody is untouchable. Dont get mad. Get e trade, dawg. paul Wireless Network claims americas most reliable network. The nations largest and most reliable network. The best network is even better . Best, fastest, best. Enough. Sprints doing things differently. Theyre offering a new 100 total satisfaction guarantee. 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It started wars and people killing each other and child soldiers operating. Many dont realize and dont see it and live it. I live in these areas. I see the conflict still going on today so what he did as a person is like the ultimate evil. As investigators, we wanted to roll up someone like that and bring them to justice in a transparent u. S. Court. From the d. E. A. , the viktor bout case kicked off at the end of 2007. Lou was the Group Supervisor at the time and a senior agent at the group. At the beginning of the investigation, youre looking at the target to find a way to infiltrate the investigation and prosecute in the United States. For the bout case, we wanted to use the scenario. The fark was a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization based in colombia promoting the ideology and has a real need for weapons and the fark had kidnapped americans, had killed americans, had anti american sentiment. The u. S. Government was supporting the colombia government to combat the fark. And the fark had regressed from the regime to one of the significant Drug Trafficking organizations operating globally. So the scenario we put together is the fark needed a number of weapons and specifically service to air missiles to counter the u. S. Helicopters flying in south america. The fark was looking for weapons. They had drug proceeds they wanteded to pay for weapons. The proceeds are in europe. We need to meet and discuss this and the members hell meet with are actually undercover operatives. Sometimes you can use the dea agent but sometimes you have to use a source. My source carlos was the right person for this case. He had the ability to talk the lynn go of weapons. He had the ability to talk about money laundering. So he was able to pose as a fark person, not as a fark gorilla because fark gorillas, they need money to sell drugs, travel and carlos had that ability to pose himself as a fark supporter. If we could get carlos in front of viktor bout, we knew he would be able to deliver. No doubt. Carlos was the king of sting. Working with d. As is not game. Its not movie. Its real life. You can get killed. I am part of the d. A. He grew up in central america. What happened is military Law Enforcement, politicians somehow get caught up in corruption and carols found himself in that situation. He was helping move money on behalf of the cartels [speaking foreign language]. So on his own will he went to the d. A. And said this is what im doing and want to make am d amen amends. Its helpful if they understand the criminal networks and lived it. If you dont put the right source in front of a legitimate knowledgeable bad guy, the target will sniff it out in a seco second. Do you know people that got killed . Yes, its very easy to get killed on this type of job. You dont want the other person to see you using the microphone. Anything can get wrong. These people are for real and they can kill you. For the bout investigation, the challenge is how do we get close to them . Developing sources, we were able to identify andrew s. He was an old associate of viktor bouts going back decade s and stayed in contact over the years and worked together from time to time and viktor bout clearly trusted him. We had to device a plan to get to andrew. We did our research and we were able to develop a person of interest who we could approach as a potential source, a cooperator and that person was a gentleman by the name of mike snow and mike snow was a british pilot who had spent much of hiss time operating in africa. Had never been a criminal. Had been a member of the British Special forces but mike snow knew andrew very well. Mike agreed to cooperate with us. He saw the atrocities that took place in africa. He flew in africa, spent a lot of time there and felt that there was a need for him to get involved and stop it. The approach that we were going to take is mike was going to reach out to andrew and say hey, are you still in contact with viktor and if so, i have people that viktor would be very much interested in meeting. Mike is the type of guy to say oh, ill find out right now and gets on the phone and spoke to somalia and he said yes, boris is still out there. Who is boris . Viktor bout. Thats his nickname. Andrew agreed to meet, andrew flew in. It was a critical meeting for us because this is going to be the first time that they met carlos and if somalia didnt believe carlos was actually a fark member, this wasnt going anywhere. Mike snow would introduce carlos and propose a weapons deal that would be worth millions of dollars, hoping he would take it directly to viktor bout. [speaking foreign language]. Someone can Say Something that sounds off. He could become suspicious. At every stage, the whole thing could fall apart. Here, it all starts with a simple. Hello hi how can i help . A data plan for everyone. Everyone . Everyone. Lets send to everyone [ camera clicking ] wifi up there . Ahhh. Sure, why not . Howd he get out . a camera might figure it out. That was easy glad i could help. At xfinity, were here to make life simple. Easy. Awesome. So come ask, shop, discover at your xfinity store today. The plan was to have a meeting, carlos would meet fark and mike snow, mike know is tsn dea source and vouched for carlos and the other fark roll player. D. A. Believed, we all believed viktor bout would do armed business with anyone. And a terrorist group has no calms about providing those weapons. Thats why victor is so incredibly dangerous. My goal was were for real that were from the fark that way he can go on and tell viktor bout about those. He has no idea that the dea is nearby and carlos is working with us. He has no idea. It was a critical meeting for us because it was going to be the first time he met him and if he didnt buy it and believe carlos was a fark member, this wasnt going anywhere. [speaking foreign language]. It took place at a hotel. Outside the beach. So there was a Perfect Place to talk about business. When somalia met with carlos, he looked at carlos and said you dont look like a fark guy. What happened is that we are in the middle of the jungle, we get a little bit not me. The people that i work. He said i dont look like a fark. I go off and collect the money. I help get the weapons and put the orders in. Andrew was testing the waters at any moment the whole thing could fall apart. Someone could Say Something that sounds a little off, he could become suspicious and viktor coached him to be careful so there was a lot riding on it. We have several meetings down between andrew, mike snow and our two sources that played the role of a military guy who was operating in the jungles fighting the colombia government. He was another dea source. Former drug trafficker, knows a lot about the fark and weapons and Drug Trafficking and a very, very believable jungle leader. It was a deal that would peak viktos interest. We knew a deal of this size would not take place unless they looked each other in the eye and shook hands and knew who they were dealing with. We had to push it he go to russia and actually meet with bout to make it happen and he bought the fark role players as members of the fark very interested in the deal. The plan was for him to go to moscow we believe to meet with viktor bout and discuss the proposed deal and what we agreed to do is meet him in copehagen to see what we hoped viktor bout thought about the deal. Carlos was in contact returning from russia. There was a meeting set up. I met him on cope bhagen and said the person that will bring the weapons to us, that he wanted to know if were for real. In russia, viktor presented pictures and said which one of these fark commanders did you meet with . [speaking foreign language]. Of course, there was no pictures in there but convinced him that we was from the fark and that we going to need weapons so he vouched for me. Smulian had the personality people felt comfortable with him. When we need recorded statements, he would find a way to address it and get it across the finish line. After the meeting, carlos said hey, he pulled me asidewalking back from a meal and said what we went to see. Why did he do this . I dont know. He was trying to impress me. It also showed that he had a righteous arm trafficker to supply to them and he would get some percentage of whatever the deal was going to be. Once somalia said viktor bout, then we knew that we were in but thats only part of it. We could have all the meetings with andrew somalia but if we dont have a sit down meeting with viktor bout, were not going to get what we need. All their efforts from that moment on was to get viktor to come in for a meeting and thats where we encountered some curveballs. Tmobiles newest most powerful signal is here. Experience it with the amazing, new iphone 11. And right now, tmobile has the best deal on iphone. Get 4 lines of unlimited with 4 iphone 11 included for only 35 a line. All on a signal that goes farther than ever before. Thats right. Get 4 unlimited lines and 4 iphone 11 for 35 a line. Only at tmobile. They can save you these. In fact, if you had a dollar for every time they said it, youd have a lot of dollars. Which makes it hard to believe, especially coming from a talking lizard. Pip, pip, cheerio look, all i, dennis quaid, know is that esurance is built to save you dollars without skimping on service. And when they save, you save. 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We devised a meeting location because for dea to get the investigation done, we needed to have a sitdown meeting with viktor bout. So we chose romania for that meeting. There were a lot of benefits. They have a solid extradition treaty and had very good judicial capabilities to monitor phones. So that was first. Once we did that, we set the time, smulian came to romania, carlos was in romania and the other farc role player was in romania. All their efforts from to moment on were to get viktor to come in and thats where we encountered some curveballs. In getting viktor to come to romania. We told him we need weapons, that we got the money and we need to meet facetoface with him to finalize the business. One of the things we did say to victor was that we had money in romania. It was millions of dollars in cash and that cash was waiting for him in romania. That actually made the deal sweeter because viktor wouldnt want money in a bank to pay for this because hes been sanctioned. We wa he wanted the cash. That was enticing to get to romania and one thing you can count on from people like viktor bout, its all about money. He said hes going to try to get to romania and trying to get the visa. Viktor was trying to get a visa. He was told he could get it in a couple days and progressed and viktor said it might be easier to go across the border. We couldnt do that so we had to come up with an excuse and another excuse. Why . Because we dont have the ability to go across a border. These have to be coordinated. There is a discussion with bout. He came up with places bad for us, cuba, nicaragua, vietnam. We were worried because every time he came up with something to make it easy, we came back and said well, its not that easy for us and mostly bad guys will change the way that they do things to get it across the finish line. We did not have that ability because we can only work in certain countries that will support our efforts. It was just thinking i have to convince him to come and finish the deal. What we heard next was the most shocking part. Someone told viktor its not safe for you to go to romania. That was the kill switch. That this is going down the tubes immediately and fast and were going to lose this. Our big concern was like is he playing us . Because he couldnt get the visa, because people were telling him that its not safe for him to go to romania, we needed to regroup. The team and i discussed what the next move would be and collectively decided that while risky, the right thing to do and the most realistic thing to do was to leave romania and walk away. It would plant a seed in bouts mind maybe they will find another arms trafficker. This may put more pressure on viktor to close the deal and before the source left, carlos had a conversation with viktor on the phone. [speaking foreign language]. Carlos made it clear and said i have to leave. Lets be back in touch. The risk is he would walk away and the case would just die. It was a calculate risk. [speaking foreign language]. Carlos provided an email to smulian and said contact him on that when viktor was ready. We could have stayed longer. Cops would wait until whenever. Wed wait but at some point, if were real, we have to get out of there. When we left romania, we were frustrated with ourselves. The sources were frustrated. We were trying our best to get it across the finish line. We were unsure what the next step was to make this investigation successful. I was worried wed never hear from viktor again. When we left romania and went back to the United States, maybe a week or so an email came in that says this is a friend of andre andrew. The email address was registered to viktor bout. If a guy is notorious and most wanted, why would he ever register an email address under his own name . It sounds stupid. Certainly does. We all thought it was stupid. After the email came in, there was communication between carlos and viktor to try to figure out where a meeting could take place and we knew that russians didnt need a visa to get into thailand. We had a great office in thailand. We had great counter parts and an extradition treaty there so our decision tofs have carlos tell viktor, ill be in thailand early in march. Can you meet me there . And when carlos got the word back that he agreed and was like elation for all of us. We were just like now we can maybe get this across the finish line. So we traveled over to thailand, briefed up the thais and waited to see if viktor should show up. We still thought at any stage he could get spooked. He might not get in. Its all talk. Hes not going to come. You dont want it to fall apart when youve come this close. Ive slain your dreaded dragon. For saving the kingdom what doth thou desire . My lord . Hey good knight. Where are you going . 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And you know what they isay about curiosity. Itll ruin your house. So get allstate and be better protected from mayhem, like meow. You set the meeting for march 6th, 2008. We hope that viktor would show up. We thought he could get spooked. He might not get in. Its all talk. Hes not going to come. That creates anxiety and you dont want it to fall apart when youve come this close but we had people at the airport doing surveillance and got word he landed and got off the plane and we knew at that point that we were very close. Once viktor arrived in thailand, he was with another individual and we learned that that individual was his body guard and both of those individuals, viktor and the body guard were surveilled from the time they exited the plane until the time they arrived at the hotel. I receive a call. He told me that viktor arrive. Get ready. There was adrenaline inside me. I going to have him in front of me. I have to do everything right to get him in jail. Once they arrived in the hotel. Arrangements were made for viktor to meet with carlos. Carlos was located in the area and viktor sat down with carlos and andrew and body guard and proceeded to do introductions and i think one of the first things that came out from viktor to carlos is im sorry about your loss. The farc had just lost one of their senior commanders in colombia and viktor had done his research on this and was testing the source and carlos was sharp enough to say yes, thank you very much and mentioned the commanders name during that conversation, which probably put viktor at ease. We was sitting on the bar. We was drinking tea so we Start Talking a little bit and decide that wasnt a good place to have this type of conversation. Viktor said lets go to the 27th floor. There say Business Center thereupon and they go to the meeting room to have a meeting there. Carlos safety and the safety of the other sources is one of the number one concerns. Viktor is one of the most ruthless armed traffickers of the world. Weapons could be smuggled in so we had no idea if he was bringing a gun to that meeting there are so many unknowns. So they went up to the Conference Room and what was going to take place next was the other source was going to come into the meeting and really talk about what was needed on the ground with the farc. I would draw out the discussion of what particular weapons were needed, what the conflict was about and what viktor could do to support the needs of the farc. To arrest bout we had to accomplish probable cause that there was a conspiracy and he knew who the farc was and was entering a weapons deal with them and knew the weapons would be used to kill americans and officers and officials in the u. S. Government thanks he knew he gowas going to be using and acquiring surface to air missiles and those were the guidelines of what we had to accomplish. So it was explained he was fighting against the americans and bout said this is my fight, too. They are my enemy, also. They really brought it home. They talked about how they needed these surface to air missiles to shoot down apache helicopters and kill americans. They explained they needed sniper rifles with sights so the farc could as they describe blow the heads off the american pilots. [speaking foreign language]. He knew we fighting against the United States. He dont care we would kill american. He was happy we would use his weapons to kill the american. Thats all the evidence we need. As the meeting was taking place on the 27th floor, when the agents and i were waiting with the thai counter parts in the hotel room, we were waiting for a predetermined phone call from carlos that the negotiations were wrapping up, all the points had been hit and it was now time for the thai counter parts to go up and make the arrest. After he agree, i make the call to tell that we finish the deal. And the agent said wait, wait, we need more time. We need more time. What room are you in . That information never got relaid. We knew they were on the 27th floor but which room. I dont know which room. I just said im in the Conference Room. There was a moment of panic. So myself, lou and all the other thai arresting officers made our way up in the elevator and im sitting in the back of this group as they are walking down this Business Center with all these doors and they all walk by this one door that was shut and i remember, i opened up the door, i stuck my head in and i could see viktor bout right there and i immediately shut the door and im like guys over here, over here, they are here and they all had to turn around and thats when they made the entry into the room. Everybody hands up the lead thai cops had their guns drawn and told viktor and andrew and everyone else in english to get their hands up and viktor was frozen and stunned. His hands were in a bag, his bag. When the head thai commander told viktor let me see your hands and viktor was very hesitant about taking his hands out of his briefcase and i really thought at one point that thai officer was going to just light him up. The thai cops were absolutely dialled in on him and his hands and gave the commands again. Hands up hands up and then everyone compiled. Everybody was put up against the wall and handcuffed and then the arrests were made. After he got arrested, he was brought to the thai Police Station and we sat down with him and explained to him about who the people that he had been meeting with and they were all sources of the dea and his First Response was i guess you hold all the cards. He knew he had been beat and when the thais, when they arrest somebody. They never do a quiet arrest. They put the bad guys in front of tv cameras and thats exactly what happened the next day. It was on television. There were hundreds of people there. It was a circus atmosphere. He was laid out in front of everyone, in front of all the media. They announced the charges. [speaking foreign language]. And then we began the extradition process. But viktor knows an awful lot. There was that concern that someone would not want him to cooperate and could have him killed before we could get him back to the United States to face justice. Were honored to have you on campus for the official visit. Aflac coach saban, how is aflacs Program Different from Health Insurance . Well aflac gives you money directly, for things Health Insurance doesnt cover. Aflac we put together a little highlight reel for you. Heres aflac helping you with your deductible. Copays. Out of pocket costs. You look good paying bills. Get to know us at aflac. 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Its a big deal because were not talking about a cartel guy. Were talking about viktor bout. Heres a guy selling weapons to conflict areas knowing these weapons will by used to kill each other and knowing the weapons will never go away. He was an accessory to violence on a scale that is beyond comprehension. Having travelled through many of these countries, whether it was sierra leone seeing people with their hands cut off because they didnt want them to use weapons against them or countries like kenya, everybody has an ak 47. Those weapons are still there causing more and more conflict. After more than two years of extradition proceedings, a thai Court Ordered bout straigextrado the United States. After the extradition had been approved we flew in to fly him out. He was transferred from the prison. There was certainly a big Security Risk because victory knows an awful lot, so there was that concern that someone would not want him to cooperate and potentially could have him killed. The russian government concerned about his intimate knowledge of military and intelligence operations fought for his return to russia. So when he was transferred from the prison, the thai counterparts and our agents over there sent a decoy tome aeam ann another team was sent with victory viktor to the plane. We got him on the plane, got him situated and flew back. He had him on the plane. He acted like a complete gentleman. He was very articulate. Didnt cause any problems. He just sat there. Did his thing. Its not entirely game over, but from their perspective they realize once youre wheels up and heading back to the United States they cant bribe their way out. They cant maneuver. Theyre in for the long haul now. When we got off the plane, got him into an Armored Vehicle and there caravanned down to manhattan correctional facility, processed him and turned him over to the bureau of prisons then left and had a drink. I was happy that everything is finished. That we got the evidence. We did everything we planned to do. We went around the world chasing viktor bout and we did it. We captured the most notorious arms dealer in the world. Victory bout. Viktor bout. When was the time . October 12th, 2011. Lasted approximately three weeks. Decided to cooperate, pled guilty and testified in open court against viktor bout. He was ultimately sentenced to five years in prison. At the trial i testified against viktor bout. There was something nice to see him go to court. He was sitting from me when i was testifying against him. Bout has long denied any connection to arms dealing, saying he was simply in the air transport business. Whatever the case, this businessman once said to be untouchable now awaits his fate in federal court. The jury came back, i believe it was november 2nd, 2011, after a few hours of deliberating, and announced a unanimous verdict, guilty on all counts. Conspiracy to kill americans. Conspiracy to kill officers and other United States officials. Conspiracy to acquire and use surfacetoair missiles and conspiracy to provide Material Support to a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization. And when he got sentenced and he turned around and pointed at myself and the other agent and said, your time will come. Did you perceive that as a threat . Yes, i mean, that actually shook me up. In all my time of Law Enforcement and arresting individuals, ive never actually felt that way before. Were not talking about some little fish. Were talking about viktor bout. He was sentenced april 2012 to 25 years, the mandatory minimum. Putting a guy like viktor bout behind bars for 25 years, i feel good about it. I privilelive in africa. I see day in and day out how viktor bout had done so much damage on that continent and that damage continues today. I was in mozambique not too long ago where there was a terrorist attack that took place in the city i was just in a day before. This was done with weapons probably provided by viktor bout. Will this solve this very complicated problem completely . No. Its a lot better than talking about it and at least we did something with it. I constantly remind myself and say, you know what . I did something to try to counter that. And knowing that people that were trying to stop this individual for years and didnt have the ability, yet a small group of individuals all banned together to take down somebody as notorious as viktor bout. And im very proud of what the team did. [ speaking spanish ] this conviction, the case sends a member ssage to all the transnational criminals throughout the world. The viktor bouts, the other transnational criminals weve investigated and successfully prosecuted that nobody is untouchable. This is a phenomenon, an unusual phenomenon. When a woman kills it always makes headlines. The perpetrators are cast as monsters. In america only 11 of murders are committed by women. What makes them different . Why do women kill . 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