Showed you accusing democrats of plotting to help migrants kill our cops, will that work for you . Many republicans are staying quiet, but not all. We have a leader, a potential president ial aspirant who has a message for you. And for the president. We have a special Closing Argument that takes us back in time. Time, but lines up with exactly where we are now. It drops some truth you may not be ready to hear. Big night, tons to test. Lets get after it. We saw more of trump in the theater from the absurd as the president delivered a president ial address behind a white house podium. Why am i putting in quotes. It was a political rally, there were no new details, no specifics on immigration. He was peddling more fear and loathing. Listen. No nation can allow itself to be overwhelmed by uncontrolled masses of people rushing their border. Its not just people, its people, its drugs, its human traffickers, theyre throwing rocks viciously and violently. These migrants are not legitimate asylum seekers. This is an invasion. If you keep saying it, maybe you will believe it, but it aint true. Were just five days out from the midterms and this is where the Republican Party is. Republican Governor John Kasich of ohio, joins us right now. Welcome back to prime time. Thank you, sir. Do you agree with me on the basic proposition that there is no imminent invasion . No, theres no imminent invasion. And frankly what we have as a situation as we approach the border, were not going to let a bunch of people come into the country, but people want to seek asylum, and its the laws we have. The fact is, when someone gets to the border, and if their families were at risk of being raped, murdered or whatever, they have a right to apply. We need a whole reform of our immigration laws. The fact of the matter is, it should be handled and could be handled effectively. There was at one point an ability i understand, for costa rica to sort of vet these people. For some reason, that program was ended under this administration. That would have been a smart thing to do. Well see how this goes, chris. Its all about getting people stirred up. Its about fear. Its about scaring people. I heard about a lady who says, i have a lake house in minneapolis. And the way things are going, theyre going to be in my lake house. I mean, people are susceptible to fear when theyre told that by the president. And look, ive said over and over again, that everybody has to calm down. I was telling my wife earlier today, yes, i know that there are democrats that say things that are incendiary, but look, this is the president of the United States. The president of the United States has the most powerful voice, not just in america, but in the world. And what a president says matters. And when a president sets a tone of fear, is there any surprise, chris, that there was a Washington Post poll that shows that 69 of americans across the board, republicans, independents, democrats are fearful of our nations future . This is not the way to work. Do we have problems . Of course we do. But the answer to that is, we look at them and we solve them. We dont stoke fear because stoke fear repels people. Thats not the president s agenda. Its pretty clear thats not the president s objective. The fact that weve failed for 30, 35 years as a country to come up with a better system. I was looking at a clip the other day of president h. W. Bush running against ronald reagan, and they were having this same debate about the exact same issues, birth right citizenship came up in the debate. They didnt even resemble the democrats today. You know, President Trump would write them off as mobbish thugs based on how sub missive they seemed to the situation. Times have changed. And your party is dead quiet when it comes to opposing the president on this. They either say nothing, or they say it quietly. So how do you not expect your party to become exactly this . The party of fear and loathing . Well, because, i saw today that Carlos Cabella from florida condemned this latest ad where they were saying democrats were looking the other way, or opening the borders so this terrible guy could come in, at least these what the chyrons were on the ad. Its completely and totally inappropriate. In the end we have to pick up the pieces after these campaigns. When your objective is to win there are ethical lines you should not cross. And i think there have been ethical lines that have been crossed. Yeah, i dont think there are any lines somebody sent me i dont think there are any lines. Somebody sent me look, chris, what is happening is wrong, its repelling people, polarizing people, and i think another thing as well. I think that this kind of heated rhetoric isnt going to win elections. What if it wins in the midterms. Trumps going to be even more of a hero . Look, i have to tell you, i dont think this tactic is working. I live out here in a Congressional District that is usually won overwhelmingly by republicans. Raiser thin in a special election. Youre losing what youre losing with this kind of rhetoric, youre losing republican suburban women, youre losing young people, youre losing independents, because people dont want to hear this kind of talk out of our president. Now, reagan and bush, these were people that could take it to the democrats, okay . But there were lines that they would not cross. And the same is true about clinton and the same is true about obama. President s cant do this. And when we all go to school and learn about our great president s, whether its George Washington or Abraham Lincoln or Franklin Roosevelt or ronald reagan. When you think about those people, they united the country. You cant be tearing it apart in order to win an election. Well, hes saying pieces have to be put together afterwards. Im saying this is a function its a tactic. I get that, youre a governor with a lot of power. You ran for president , you could run for president again. But the leaders in their currently on the federal side, they dont say any of this. What youre saying right now. Even paul ryan, the man who certainly had the moxie to call out president obama and said he wasnt speaking in a president ial fashion, hes never said that about the president of the United States. Yes, hes said he cant change the 14th amendment by himself. Thats not the problem, the problem isnt his misunderstanding of executive authority. East all over the place. Thats exactly what he criticized in obama with daca. The exact functional equal. The hypocrisy is clear. Its not clear to your leaders in your party on any level that im seeing. Where they say, we think these lines are crossed. Kasichs right, were not going to allow it any more. Hes got to stop, were going to go talk to him. None of that is happening, this is who you are. I think we have to recognize the fact that there are elements on both sides that get out of control, and they say things that one side is saying if they throw rocks at you, treat it as rifles my deal is, this is the president , and youre above all other mega phones. There are some republicans who are speaking out, Carlos Cabella who tried to hes not in the leadership. Well, hes not in the leadership, but hes a republican leader. He is, fair point. Hes a growing leader. And there are others. Do i wish there are more people that would say, this is wrong . Of course i would, i would love for them to do that. Im not doing this because im interested in i want to make it clear to you, i say this because i am worried about what im hearing and what were seeing in this country. The ratcheting up of the rhetoric, the fear thats being put out there, the things that are being said that this could be the end of our country as we know it, by many voices. Not just the president , by many voices, this gets people frightened, and when you frighten people, you always take the risk that somebody, whose not in control of their emotions or has bad judgment does something crazy. We just saw that. And i dont want to see it happen any more. Were all at risk, and we expect better out of our leaders. And the rabbi at the synagogue in pittsburgh said, weve got to take hate out of our language. The leaders, the politicians have to take hate out. Because when there is a sense of hatred in that vocabulary, in that rhetoric, it infects people, bottom line also, chris, ive said this on your show a million times, for many people, instead of getting angry, go and vote. Instead of getting angry, organize your community. Thats what we have to do, we cant fix all these big time leaders many of whom just cant get it. Governor kasich, thank you for speaking truth to power on this show as always. All right, chris. God bless us, and god bless america. Thank you, sir. Were going to break apart these really questionable claims that the president made during his white house address today. And there are many things that must be fact checks. Even from someone who says he tries to tell the truth, was tonight one of the times that he was trying . Could the president be breaking the law if he makes his proposed changes to u. S. Asylum policy . Ill take you through it next. At tmobile, forty bucks gets you an unlimited plan and a new Samsung Galaxy s9 included for every line. This is what you get with your 40 plan at verizon. Recap with tmobile, you get this four lines four phones for forty bucks. With verizon, you get this. The choice just got a whole lot more obvious. Get more because you deserve it. 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American troops will have permission to open fire on unarmed migrants if they throw rocks. The main thing to look at is whether or not tonight was one of those times that the president says he tries to tell the truth. Lets see. Some people call it an invasion, its like an invasion. They violently overrun the mexican border, you saw that two days ago. These are tough people in many cases, a lot of young men, strong men, and a lot of men that maybe we dont want in our country. Some people call it an invasion. As we introduced to you the other night, dont be a sucker. An invasion doesnt gives you a months heads up. This is not what an invasion looks like, walking slowly down the road with kids in tow. As for them overrunning and badly hurting mexican soldiers, thats what he said, the president. Cnns layla santiago checked with mexican officials. Here are the facts, two federal Police Officers were hit by rocks thrown, we believe by migrants, their injuries are not serious. However, trump said if they do that here, we should consider rocks as rifles. What does that mean . That means, you can shoot them. America more brutal than mexico . Who would have ever imagined that. Now, those strong young men hed have you be scared of. Theyre really strong, were not sure we want them there, because theyre all weak. Theyre coming here to fill the more than seven million unfilled jobs in this country. He doubled down on this. Listen. Saying theyre going to cost us money. Once they arrive, the democrat partys vision is to offer them free health care, free welfare, free education, and even the right to vote. You and the Hardworking Taxpayers of our country will be asked to pick up the entire tab. Fear can hit you here. Facts hit you here. There are open jobs because americans cant fill them. There are more jobs than available workers. Ask the employers. The same ones who commit crimes by hiring and never getting prosecuted with these illegal entrants. Now, trump doesnt go after them. Undocumented immigrants pump somewhere between 150 billion to 240 billion into our economy. Also, about 12 billion in state and local taxes each year. Some 13 billion in payroll taxes, theyre also the politics. Listen. Its only the republicans that are in unison, they want to change them. They want to make strong borders, want to get rid of any crime because of the borders, of which theres a lot. Republicans hold imagine majorities in both houses of congress, okay . And theyve got the white house, obviously. Together the number of immigration bills they have passed is zero. And they are not of one mind, that happens to be part of the zero calculus, some are severe like trump. Other want to work along lines with democrats, remember the gang of eight . And then there was this, it was as ugly as it was obvious. I dont want them in our country. And women dont want them in our country. Women want security. Men dont want them in our country. But the women do not want them, women want security. Women dont want them, they want security. This speaks to two things. One, the president recognizes he has a political problem with women, and this is somewhat of an absurd attempt to connect with them. Of all the things women want from trump, starting with respect, fearing migrants is an obvious play. Not to whats obvious to women. Its playing to the idea that women would fear attack more than men. And they must want security from these migrants because the migrants are monsters. This is where the president finishes where he started. They are rapists and murders in the main, and it has never been true. So i guess tonight was one of those times that trump just couldnt tell the truth. Now, i want to hear how two Trump Supporters plan to counter these arguments. Theres enough for the president to deal with on that side of the ball, that they have both seats at the table tonight. A double dose of maga mania. The great debate next. 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Think of it. Youre an enemy of our country. Youre a general with war on your mind. Youre a dictator who we hate and whos against us, and that dictator has his wife, have a baby on american soil. Congratulations, your son or daughter is now an american citizen. Dictator, general . What is he talking about . Is this true . Lets ask our great debaters. Both who are Trump Supporters. My brother and sister thank you for joining us. What dictator, what general . Whoever did that . What the president is referring to is birther not birther birth right citizenship. Birther tourism. People coming in just for the purpose of having a child. It could be someone whos an enemy of the United States. It could be. But he was suggesting like it happened. Have you ever heard any of that . Or is it just a suggestion. He could have said godzilla or a certainly thousands of people are coming to this country and doing this. Its a practical question. We should have a debate whether were going to allow that to continue because its wrong. I understand the concept. I sdet the get the concern. You have a constitutional amendment. I dont know about that, i think the congress can pass something when it comes to people who come here for the express purposes of spending a short period of time in america just to have a child, i think we can do some things on that. You might be right, but we know that everything that Juris Prudence tells us is, thats not right. Well see. Its a political argument but for the president to say, hell do it by executive order is right up there with the general. I dont get it. I dont think he can do that. Drinks on me, rick. I dont think its going to go to the court. The president s going to do this and its going to go to the courts, chris. You know its going to be tied up. Look how long the muslim ban . Daca . Both neither one is doing what hes trying to do with the constitution. It gets laughed out of court. Well see. Well, constitutional scholars are going back and forth about this, to debate no, not really a debate. Well see. Its not really a debate. Not only am i a lawyer, im a lousy loyal. Im doing this. Its not a real debate. Its not like you have equal things on both sides, its like global warming. There are a lot on one side, there are a few on the other. Were going to disagree on that, too, chris. Thats okay. Science is science. I believe in the weather. Its about climate, not weather. Are you afraid of the caravan . Do you think theyre going to come here and do something to you, god forbid . What i dont want to happen, i think we need to secure our borders and we need to know every Single Person that is coming in and going out of this country. And that is actually the responsibility of the president and the congress. So its incumbent upon them to do something about it, this is what the president campaigned on in 2015 and 2016, and he is promises made, promises kept. And hes following through on what he promised. Chris, if you go back to how . If you go back to the spring, what did he do . He did something that no one else weve ever seen done before. He brought nancy pelosi, Chuck Schumer into the white house with all the democrats and republicans and said, lets fix the illegal immigration problem. What did the democrats do . They tucked and ran. They didnt want to do anything about it. Not true. They dont want to deal with this issue. They want it as a political issue, they werent going to agree with him. They dont want him to have one more victory. Amy, not true. How is it not true . Ill tell you how. Give me a second. He had the meeting. He said, lets do it, it never happened. He never seriously tried to bring the sides together. Youll hear it from republicans, rick knows a bunch of them. Youll hear it from democrats, i heard from both. There was no serious effort. Hes put a lot more energy into demonizing, because it works for him more with the base and for the midterms, frankly. Than the legislative process, he never did it in ernest. Youll hear it from lawmakers on both sides. He never put his capital behind it. I have sources, not just my feelings. These arent feelings, i have sources too. He was going to make a deal. He caught hell from many of us, because we dont agree with granting amnesty to millions and millions of people. Thats more to my point. He didnt want to put capital behind it. He backed away from that effort. He was going to, he was following through on what he promised to do. He never promised im going to spend my time demonizing the migrants, but not really doing anything to fix the problem. That wasnt his promise. He said, im a deal maker, ill get it done. Have you both houses of congress. Hes got nothing done. You need a bipartisan support to get an immigration bill done. And by the way, as you well know, in the first two years of the obama administration, they didnt need a single republican vote to pass obamacare, and they wouldnt have needed a single republican vote to pass immigration reform. They did nothing. You can blame the president but this all goes back to this is the reason republicans make this point over and over. The democrats dont want to fix this, because when they had the chance to do it, they didnt even bring up the issue. They think its a political winner for them. I havent seen anybody do anything with this. To be honest on both sides. I was watching a debate earlier today, from 1980, with george h. W. Bush and ronald reagan. They were talking about the same issue. Both sides have failed on it, we just thought trump would be different. Were in the same place except for the rhetoric. Weve never seen the rhetoric like this before. Ronald reagan said after the fact, he made a deal to allow legalize everyone that was in this country. He was promised all these things and they never happened. Republicans have learned from that, you cant say, were going to give everybody amnesty and fix the problem goingforward, it never gets fixed. Thats the suspicion, and thats why doing nothing isnt a remedy either, and thats where were at about. Donald trump put a deal on the table. I understand. I heard the same sources. People thought it wasnt enough. Donald trump put a deal on the table, that i dont know if any conservative would have put on the table or would have been enthusiastic about supporting. You can say it wasnt far enough for the democrats or even moderate republicans. It was further than any conservative had gone so far. If he really cared about security. He would be putting a lot more energy into that process, than going from rally to rally around the country just to stir up fear and loathing. He said something tonight none of us has ever heard before from a president of the United States if they throw rocks, treat them as rifles. We both know what that means, okay . Theres no code involved. I cannot believe that either of you would agree with that assessment. I do not. Amy . Im just saying for the record, i do not. Then call him out and say dont do that to us. I just did. Dont make me pull that out of you. You asked could you imagine if barack obama said that . Could you imagine . Youre right, he shouldnt have said that. Its not just about being right or wrong. Wrong is, i can change the asylum laws by executive order. Thats just wrong, it doesnt work like that. For the same reason you were mad about daca. I get, but its not going to happen. The idea of mexico paying for the wall, youre right, theyre not going to pay for it. Rocks as rifles, that is to put hate in peoples hearts. This is to remind people these people are not worth the same decency we would give to people in iraq and afghanistan. Thats what he said tonight. No, its to discourage people from coming here. We saw what they did on the mexican border. They threw rocks, attacked them. They tore down fences. Two cops were hurt. One cop is too much, chris. To shoot them . To shoot them . Let me finish what im saying. The president said that trying to discourage. Remember the story of david and goliath, it was a stone. Remember on september 11th, what was the weapon they used to fly those airplanes into the buildings . Box cutters. The point is, there are rules of engagement that the military follows. And throwing rocks doesnt get you shot by the u. S. Military. They have honor and integrity wtd with the rules of behavior. When have you ever known our military to go shoot people up. When the commander in chief says thats what i want, but they have a chain of command no, you tell me when thats happened. A box cutter wasnt what caused 9 11. It was airplanes. It was a system i think attack. To a group that wasnt ready for it. Im a former flight attendant. It was box cutters that were used to so they could get into the cockpit. The bottom line is, there are rules of engagement that have to be followed, and just because the president goes out and says something doesnt mean that the militarys going to go and start shooting people up at the border. Hes the commander in chief. Thats absurd. Why should he say it . Youre saying its david and goliath, rick, thats why we have to worry about the rocks. Thats what david used. I understand the point, the president is trying to do everything he can to discourage people from coming to the border. But that was not an effective way to do it. The fact youre sending troops and were not going to bring anybody in, and were going to have a different process thats going to take longer. Theres lots of things he can do to discourage people from coming. Weve seen an explosion of the number of people coming from honduras and guatemala and el salvador. The number of entries has been going down. Thats because mexicans have but its still low you know what let me finish this point its an invasion. The arent number of mexicans are going down, when a mexican comes across the border, you can immediately send them back, and you cant with everyone else. The system is not that broken. I get that it needs to be better, but the idea that its a national emergency. We know thats not the majority of people that get into this country. There are overstays that are a problem. Address that if youre so worried about security. At this point you said yourself a few minutes ago, that congress has done nothing. Neither party. He was supposed to be different. Trump was supposed to make deals. At what point is somebody going to stand up and say no more. I mean, seriously, barack obama didnt. Are you going to stand up and say that . A bible story youre going to justify saying rocks as rifles. Im not justifying they dont even have slingshots. Chris, come on, you know what, this is the thing, if these people were truly seeking asylum, why are they not accepting the asylum mexico had for them. In did. Many did. Many did not. And they continue on this march. If you dont think they deserve it, thats what you do. Dont support the victory you dont treat them like theyre animals. If they go to the ports of entry that he wont have this problem. Sometimes they do, sometimes theyre on the run, you deal with it either way. Well play out the law and see what happens. Follow the law. But david and goliath, thats not working with me. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. The president actually suggested today, what i was just saying, all right . And there was none of this, dont forget what happened with david and goliath, there was none of that. Thats not a legitimate basis of concern when migrants come to the fence. And yet he said, treat rocks as rifles. Oh, he didnt mean it. Hes the commander in chief. Our next guest served in iraq. He knows what happens when you put a lot of troops on the border. He knows the stress and strain. He knows the money, he knows the concerns. He knows the situation. Were going to have a good conversation, next. Daddy, mommys on the phone hi how are you guys . At t proudly offers wireless and tv discounts to military, veterans, First Responders and their families. Visit att. Com hero. Before discovering nexium 24hr to treat her frequent heartburn, claire could only imagine enjoying chocolate cake. Now she can have her cake and eat it too. Nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for allday, allnight protection. Can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn . vo [music playing] after the 1906 earthquake people needed access to their money. So even though bank records were buried, wells fargo let customers withdraw based on their word. We had your back then. 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Im worried about the fighting men and women being put in the position. 15,000 active duty troops. Obama Bush National guard, they called him up, work with the governors. This would be different. Thats the mandate from the president , what does that mean by the way, coming from the commander in chief. It means hes turning it up. Like on every other issue. When you do it with the military, its a totally different level. Were sending americas sons and daughters into a dangerous political situation. I was in iraq for a crazy political situation that felt like a shark tank. I had rocks thrown at me. You dont unload your clip when a kid throws a rock at you. The true test is restraint. When they are hit, sometimes they dont fight back, they dont shoot back, it can escalate the situation or put more people at risk. Its a failure to understand what our military is designed for, how our military operates. And how weve put them in bad situations for the last decade and a half. This is the last thing they need. They dont need to get riot gear and get down to the border. When were dealing with enemies over seas. Just in case, because sometimes what he says, he actually tries to do. Is there anyway that that kind of directive becomes a rule of engagement . No, it shouldnt. Our troops are professionals. I dont trust politicians. I think most americans dont trust politicians. I do trust our troops, and theyve held the line and are incredible professionals. Even when theyre put in the most difficult situations imaginable. Theyre not going to commit war crimes. Theyre going to hold back. Theyll engage if they have to. I think we also have to ask what kind of situation are we putting them in. These are americas sons and daughters. If one of our sons and daughters dies, it could be an accident. What is it for. I think thats what the president owes the American People. Any time you send troops anywhere. You owe them a reason. It has to be worth it. That hasnt been communicated to anybody. This doesnt look like a military strategy, it looks like a political strategy. If its not, prove it. Theyre going to do their job, follow orders. Thats what every troop is going to do, the American People have to hold the politicians accountable. And the commander in chief most of all. The audience knows you a little bit, youve been on here, in a lot of different places on cnn. You understand the nature of politics the most. When you see this group coming, its an invasion. People say its an invasion. Theyre about to invade, does anything you have gleaned about whats going on, speak to invasion . No, it doesnt look like a threat to me. I dont think it looks like a threat to the pentagon. What if they come here and dont go through the port of entry. And try to sneak across. I dont see that as an imminent threat for my family. Thats me personally. Some people feel differently. I think the American People dont generally feel threatened here either. Both parties have sounded off on that. They feel threatened about other things. Were here in new york city, i was worried about a pipe bomb. That was an imminent threat that seemed like it needed a forceful response and protection. Thats the reality. I think we have to ground politicians in reality. Especially when were a week out from an election. And two weeks out for veterans day. All the generations of veterans have been thrust into situations. Sometimes it was necessary, sometimes it wasnt. You have to ask, is this worth losing a man or a womans life. Somebodys son or daughter. If its not, you shouldnt do it, thats simple, that should be straightforward. Whats your sense about whether or not the fear and loathing is working. Is it going to drive out people because they have a fear invested by the president of the United States, that the monster, the boogy man is coming. Fear motivates people from a political standpoint. Weve seen that from all parties as long as history goes on. I will tell you something people are forgetting, the veterans vote, the troops votes. Our members vote at 98 . Theyre very pragmatic, theyre increasingly nonpartisan. Theyre sick of the rhetoric. How does sending 15,000 sit with them . I dont think they love it. Theyre so overextended. Thats another part of this, every time you ask them to do one more thing, youre wearing them out. Weve been wearing them out over and over again. Especially when its a quick spin up that they werent preparing for. Theyre not preparing for riot gear, theyre preparing for deployment overseas. Any time you throw a curve ball. Youre compromising something else. Is this worth compromising what were doing in afghanistan, iraq, syria, and other parts around the world. Thats the question. P. J. , you get the military, the politics. Thank you very much. Democrats you dont see them going toe too toe with trump right now. Why . Its a legitimate question. 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Theyre not designed for people with discernment. Women, people, we have discernment. What would be our wouldbe counter puncher in chief have to say. Oprah liked me very much. Ive always liked oprah. You know, oprahs good. All right, hes gone kind of both ways. Remember when somebody was thinking she might run and he changed his tune a little bit. Lets bring in don lemon. Oprah, is she the antidote . I dont really think she was talking about trump, i think she stayed away from trump on purpose. I think shes talking specifically about political ads and the current climate. If you want to somehow it sounded like she was talking about trump. It did, i watched the speech, i wasnt watching it, because i was dealing with some things, and everyone is texting me. Oh, my gosh, you watch oprah, oprah, oprah. And you get a vote and you get a vote and you get a vote i tell you what, oprah would be the first one to tell you this. Oprah wont be the one who puts Stacey Abrams over the edge. It is the unknown people, especially those unknown women, many of them women of color who are fighting behind the scenes and knocking on doors that oprah is motivating right now who are going to get Stacey Abrams if she wins comes tuesday night. I love the spirit. Of oprahs speech today. Oprahs speech today, who is an independent. Shes sick of political parties. Dont i own my own mind and my own vote, and dont tell me who to vote for. I vote by the way, i just voted. I did it, because were going to be tuesday night in d. C. I sent in my ballot yesterday. I think oprah can help, but its going to be the people behind the scenes who actually those people who are working i think thats very true. At the end of the day, can somebody spark what is in your head and heart . And make you act or make yourself want to act . She did have something that i havent seen from democrats right now. I dont care what she was talking about, how she was couching it, whether she was playing it aggressive or safe. She was coming with equal passion. But not with equal animus. Its a potent combination. It is genius. Its a lesson in how one should conduct themselves all the time. But especially if youre in the political arena. The way she conducted herself was fantastic. Oprahs a pro. Yeah. She knows how to handle she nodes how to handle herself. What i liked about it was she said, nobody called me to come here. I called her. I sought her out, which i thought spoke volumes for the kind of person she thinks Stacey Abrams is. By the way, were going to be talking about that, but were also going to talk about how the president used the oval office today, how he tricked the media and the american public, how he is pulling a bamboozle on the american public, and were going to talk about steve king. We have someone who reports on steve king. Could be in trouble for well, hes in trouble with his own party now, and some racist statements hes made recently. All right, d. Lemon, appreciate it. See you in a couple minutes, mr. O know. Hope you didnt eat too much candy. Youre looking a little chunky. You win again. Im going to do something a little different tonight. The closing is the most powerful one you will have heard on this show. Its not my words, but it is somebody who is going to describe whats going on right now better than i ever could, and it is scary because they are talking about a time long ago. There is a truth you may not want to hear, because you are going to have a responsibility that you dont think you have right now. Next. The third stair always creaked. And your mother told me all her life that i should fix it. Now it reminds me of her. Im just glad i never fixed it. Listen, you dont need to go anywhere dad. Meet christine, shes going to help you around the house. The best home to be in is your own. 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Comcast business goes beyond fast. By letting you make and receive calls from any device using your business line. And Conference Calls you can join without any dialins or pins. phone there are currently 3 members in this conference. I like that. I like that too. I would use that in a heartbeat. Get started with innovative Voice Solutions for a low price when you get fast, reliable internet. Comcast business. Beyond fast. The president of the United States is attempting something no other president has in mod earn history. Hes trying to start a Mass Movement based on fear and loathing of a minority group. Now, he says thats not true, that hes just trying to keep us safe and make the system better. But dont be a sucker. He doesnt need to demonize migrants to do that. Those walking a across illegally are a small part of our illegal entrangts. If he wanted to make us safe, he would prosecute those in big business that do the mass hiring and use his store i had deal making skills to get congress to change the system. He has gotten nowhere despite having both houses of congress. Thats because what he really wants are votes and popularity with a minority of the country, and he has found a well worn way to do it. Fear and loathing with a common enemy. His methods are vulgar. His objectives are obvious and ugly, but he is not the key to the movement. You are. Those who decide to follow and those who decide to oppose. If you think that hate is empowering, youre wrong. And if you think love will simply overwhelm, youre missing a major step. Both situations were explained in perfect detail by the famed Thomas Murtin. He wrote about exactly what is going on here right now, frighteningly exact. He was writing about what power nationalism and world war ii held, but his words will make a better case than i ever could for what each of you needs to decide right now. This is Thomas Murtin from the chapter christianity and totalitarianism in disputed questions. A Mass Movement readily exploits the discontent in frustration of large segments of the population, which for some reason some reason or other, cannot face the responsibility of being persons and standing on their own feet. But give these persons a movement to join, a cause to defend, and they will go to any extreme, stop at no crime, intoxicated as they are, by the slogans that give them a pseudoreligious sense of transcending their own limitations. The member of a Mass Movement, afraid of his own isolation and his own weakness as an individual, cannot face the task of discovering within himself the spiritual power and integrity which can be called forth only by love. Instead of this, he seeks a movement that will protect his weakness with a wall of anonymity, and justify his acts by the sanction of collective glory and power. All the better if this is done out of hatred, for hatred is always easier and less subtle than love. It does not have to respect reality as love does. It does not have to take account of individual cases. Its solutions are simple and easy. It makes its decisions by a simple glance at a face, a colored skin, a uniform. It identifies an enemy by an accent, an unfamiliar turn of speech, an appeal to concepts that are difficult to understand. Here is something unfamiliar. This is not ours. This must be brought into line or destroyed. It is against this temptation, most of all, that the christian, is what murtin, but this applies to anyone who opposes a malignant movement. That person must labor with inexhaui inexhaustible patience and love, in repeated failure, seeking tirelessly to restore wherever he can, and first of all in himself, the capacity of love and understanding which makes man the living image of god. Man, that is deep, and it is so spot on that it scares me. Someone reminded me of this passage today. My father first taught me this many, many years ago. Look, its easy to give in to hate. That is the easy way. And it is harder to fight it. But both choices stem from an i am immutable truth. This isnt about trump or any trumped up invasion. It is what each of you decide about yourself and what you want to be about. These are not my words, but, man, i do own the sentiment and it is food for thought for me. And i hope it is for you as well. Thank you for watching tonight. Cnn tonight with don lemon starts right now. I love when you talk about your dad. You call him pop. We just talked about him at dinner the other night and that story you shared about him and his favorite dessert, which is which was apple pie. Apple pie. Chris said he couldnt pass it up in a restaurant for dessert, or if he passed a deli that had apple pie at the end. You dont mind me saying that. Not at all. He would point and say apple pie. Sued a, pop, you had apple pie a moment ago. I wouldnt argue with him even though he couldnt argue. Thomas was talking about the world war ii experience. It is a searing