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I took a walk through this beautiful world felt the cool rain on my shoulder found something good in this beautiful world i felt the rain getting colder sha, la, la, la, la, sha, la, la, la, la, la, sha, la, la, la, la, sha, la, la, la, la, la Anthony Seattle has always been a place where you can go to reinvent yourself. Its a place that, on the surface, would seem to require commitment. Famously gray, rainy, not particularly friendly and all the way up there, in the far corner of the country. A place you could get work in the aircraft industry, or make music or rather notoriously, become a serial killer. Whether outfitting prospectors during the alaskan gold rush or looking for some kind of cred from the music scene, its always boom or bust. Now its a new kind of boom. Microsoft, google, twitter, expedia and amazon are the big dogs in town. A flood of them. Tech industry workers, mostly male, derisively referred to as tech boys or tech bros are rapidly changing the dna of the city. Rewiring it to satisfy their own newly empowered nerdly appetites. Meet our new apple martini drinking overlords. Tech boys tech boys tech boys tech boys tech boys tech boys with your mustache and your paycheck and your blue badge and your limp dick with your mouth full of the party line and your weekends working overtime overtime overtime anthony fish and chips is a thing, right . Dustin thats a thing. Astra yeah. Astra elaine and Dustin Patterson are members of the local band the gods themselves. They wrote a song about the new kids in town. Pacific inn pub is a holdout, a place that has so far managed to resist the temptation to appease the invaders. For lunch, fish and chips. Tech boys anthony you know, bitter old like me are of course going to complain any time we hear about, you know, a lot of highfiving white guys coming in to town. And yet, youve created this sort of iconic hate anthem. Can you tell the tech people from the nontech people . Dustin yeah, they have the badges. Astra neutral colored clothing. Theyre kind of easy to spot. They have a walk. Anthony they have a walk . Astra yeah. Theyre just all the same. Theres nothing that really stands out about them. Theyre so dull. Youve got to feel that rhythm that algorithim youve got the feel that rhythm that algorithm tech boys astra you know, dating apps are really big here. I have a few girlfriends who have dated a couple of tech boys. Is their personal hygiene an issue . Astra like the nerdier tech boys will have that smell. That mildewy smell. You know what im talking about . Anthony wow, you really have a low opinion of these people. Astra well, were generalizing now, tony. Anthony im all for that. [ laughter ] everybody in seattle is a musician, a serial killer or a chef as far as im concerned, so. Anthony in a lot of ways, this was always a company town. You know, boeing, before boeing it was a logging town. The new company is tech and it is flooding money into the place. I look out my hotel room window and i mean there are cranes as far as the eye can see. Dustin you realize, like, okay, all those cranes out there are for highrise condos, theyre for a certain type of person. Theyre envisioning a certain type of future for the city and its tech people. Anthony or, you know, somebody who likes to drive around and pick up hitch hikers and dismember them. [ laughter ] capitol hill is seattles established gayborhood, going back to the mid1960s. Oldschool cool but with every passing day change. The hill has become the new weekend Stomping Ground of breeders from the Tech Companies and the locals are displeased. John criscitello, street artist that is waging a oneman war against the rent hikes that are pushing people like him out of the neighborhood. Anthony are we talking about an infestation of tech bros . Is this, uh, what, 10 years ago would this be a gay neighborhood . John it was, sort of, an enclave for artists and for queer people. Anthony and, so whats happening now . John old, big tech corporations that have moved into the city people need some place to live so a lot of Development Companies bought up every corner. If they keep this sort of facade, they can build taller. So this was just this, and then they plunk this down in the center of it. Anthony ah, so theyre keeping the character of the neighborhood sort of, kind of. John they call it facadomy. Ive heard it termed, facadomy. The problem, of course, is that rents double. So what you used to be able to get a studio apartment for 700, now all of a sudden the entry point is 1500. Which is considerable for artists anybody. You know, thats the sort of lament now is, where are you going to go . Where are you going to go . Where are you going to go . Anthony right. So, all these outsiders are coming in, renting expensive apartments. What kind of businesses are opening to accommodate these new arrivals . John well, in this neighborhood, that construction over on that side is a whole foods. Anthony oh no, thats a sign of the apocalypse. John that is the end. Anthony thats the official indicator that the neighborhood is. John thats it right there. [ restaurant clatter ] john cook because of the boom and everything thats been happening, you do have that kind of have and havenots here. And i think there is an identity crisis where people are starting to really question what is seattle and who is it . But historically, you go back to the 90s, i mean it was the city of grunge. And now i would say its the city of geeks. Its boomtown right now. Todd and yeah, this kind of boom does happen in other places, but then again it doesnt. John cook and todd bishop of geekwire. An industry leading news site that started covering the Tech Industry back in 2011. Lunch is at revel right down the street from their offices. The chef is rachel yang, and the food is korean. To eat, cilantro noodles, yuchoy and thinlysliced flatiron steak. Kimchi pancakes with braised pork belly, and bean sprouts. Marinated short rib rice bowl with house sambal daikon kimchi and egg. And short rib dumplings topped with pickled shallot and scallion salad. Anthony of course im hearing from a lot of people who are bemoaning the loss of the old seattle. Uh, this invasion of outsiders. John certainly the community is going through a lot of growing pains, and there is an element of the city here that is rebelling against the progress. Especially as we talk about a company like amazon that controls massive amounts of the downtown real estate footprint now. And thats what scares a lot of people here, including myself. Because i see how the trends of history change, especially in technology. That one day microsoft is hot, the next day apple is hot, now amazon is hot. They go through these cycles and they dont always live through them. And were left with a city that is totally transformed because of it. Anthony what percentage of the total dollar generating space on the internet is occupied by porn . John well, you know, this is todds expertise, so ill defer to him. Todd historically the adult industry, even if its not completely dominating the economics all the time, it is the leader of technology. Its the first with hd, its the first to try out a new wave of 3d technology, Virtual Reality, augmented reality. And you see it over and over again, the latest is vr and ar. Anthony yeah. Do you know the number one search term on porn websites for the seattle area . Stepmom. [ laughter ] who wants to their stepmom . [ laughter ] anthony jen mcewen and jesse adams are two nice people that have chosen the porn business as a way to make a living. They launched mikandi, the worlds first mobile app store for masturbators and aficionados of graphic erotica. But they are looking ahead, the next levels of porn. Personalized interactive Virtual Reality porn. And i could tell you my friends, its chillingly realistic. Anthony generally speaking, who are your customers demographically . Jen mostly male but yeah, theyre coming from all over the world. Anthony right. Jen theyre looking for more unique experiences and i think thats why vr is very important for them. And just also a lot of people who say they discovered their sexuality and their identity through stuff like this. Jesse what the adult industry is really good at is whatever your specific interest is, well find the exact person for you. Exact piece of content. Anthony like amazon does. So tony, based on your previous purchases, you know, we can recommend the following stepmom related materials. Jen do you want to see some vr porn . Anthony yeah. Jen alright. Anthony okay. Oh my god. Now should i look behind me because i dont want to get spit roasted here. Oh, okay. Porn star hey, there. Anthony wow. Yeah, thats kind of scary. [ giggles ] [ laughter ] thats good how will they know i worked hard . Ive gotta make stuff harder. There, thats hard. Every day, visionaries are creating the future. So, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. The United States Postal Service makes more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. Because the future only happens with people who really know how to deliver it. Because the future only happens with people yesss, im doing it all. The water. The exercise. The fiber. Month after month, and i still have belly pain and recurring constipation. So i asked my doctor what else i could do, and i said yesss to linzess. Linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. Linzess is not a laxative, it works differently. It helps relieve belly pain and lets you have more frequent and complete bowel movements. 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I come from the techno era, but im hiphop at heart. vo the best network is even better now that apple music is included with unlimited. Plus get a free galaxy s10e when you buy one, and 400 when you switch. Only on verizon. Anthony weed, smoke, ganja, reefer. Call it what you will, its marijuana. Oh, i can go on all day. Long story short, Washington State legalized weed in 2012. And i plan to make the most of it while scrupulously adhering to the letter of the law, like i always do. The options available in places like this, emerald haze, are mindboggling. Budtender well how can i help you out today . Anthony well um, where to begin . Budtender where to begin anthony there is a dizzying array of products. You got dozens of strains of bud, oils to vape, weedinfused edibles, mints, syrups, ointments, probably lube remind me to ask. My advice, dont even try to shop stoned. Decisionmaking was never, in my case, a strong point while baked. Anthony which uh, which is sleepy i forget, is it indica or sativa thats uh peppy and the other one is sleepy. Budtender so, the indica will put you in the couch. Its going to be your sleepy, body high. Sativa is going to be more of your awake, alert high, mostly feeling it in the head. Anthony right, like crouched in the bathroom in the fetal position paranoid or what . Budtender not like that crazy. Anthony ok, good. I think, lets do um, some of both. Budtender some of both . Sure. Anthony what do you have on offer here . Budtender we do have a deal on our pack of three today from hollingsworth. Which they have the blueberry kush, the Alaskan Thunder and also a dutch treat which will be more of a hybrid. Anthony i mean, i have to Alaskan Thunder you kind of have to. This is from our friends at hollingsworth . Budtender yeah, these are from hollingsworth, which is very nice. Anthony two hours outside of seattle lies Hollingsworth Cannabis Company farm. The woods are alive with, well, weed. Rows and rows of weed carefully grown and tended to by one family, Third Generation seattleites, the hollingsworths. And at the helm of the company, these guys, brother and sister duo, raft and joy hollingsworth. Raft oh, hi didnt see you there joy wait, hold on. Oh hi, didnt see you there. Raft didnt see you there. Joy do you say that . Raft and then you say the rest of the joy no, i cant remember raft okay, were gonna do it. Joy im joy hollingsworth. I got it. Raft oh, hi say it, say it. Joy lets take a look lets take a closer look, shall we . Anthony while some corporate outfits are rushing to cash in on the new crop, the Hollingsworth Cannabis Company is doing it a slower, more personal way. Solarpowered greenhouses, handtrimmed buds and handpacked bags ensure the freshest highest quality of chronic. Theyre keeping it all in the family. Raft runs the manufacturing and growing. Joy does the processing and sales. Auntie came out of retirement to assist with the oil cartridges. Dad puts labels on the packaging and mom fills the readyrolls and assists in quality control. As i will, and have, and will again. Anthony back in the city, mamnoon restaurant on melrose. Anthony have you been here before . Raft absolutely. This is a good spot. How you doing . Anthony ive been smoking some of your product, so uh, if im a little unfocused raft before this you did . Anthony uh, whats that . Raft before this . [ laughter ] anthony before this, yeah. Raft he said, what, what, what, what, what . [ laughter ] anthony mamnoon is a modern take on traditional syrian and lebanese food. And its done well. Theres baharat spiced beef and lamb kebabs. Fried cauliflower with tahini. A summer fatteh with local squash and charred tomatoes topped with sizzling brown butter and pine nuts. Thats sweet and sour rice wrapped in grape leaves. Raft this looks so good. Joy the hummus is great. Raft this is my favorite cuisine. Anthony so hows business . Joy its been an interesting three years because i feel like every year weve been like refining the process and trying to get better. Were the little guys. Raft right now. Were momandpop. Joy yeah, were the momandpop, but see the difference is Washington State set up the law to try and help momandpops get started. Anthony how did you convince the family . This mustve seemed like a sketchy venture. Raft its a gamble. Joy he said, hey, i got a family meeting. I need you here tonight. We were all sitting there and he puts on his little powerpoint on the tv and its about 32 pages. And he tells us, hey, we need to go to mason county, grow a ton of weed. And were all like, what are you talking about . And my mom raises her hand, she goes, wait, i have something really important. We all look at her and she goes, i want to be r d. Can i smoke and tell you if the weed is good . And then all of a sudden he starts moving. Raft my Business Plan ended at get a license. To get a license it was to build a fence, put up some cameras and get out the way. And theyll come, give you a final inspection and now you are licensed to grow weed in the state of washington. Anthony how many people grow weed, do you think, in the seattle, Washington State region . Raft theres a lot. Joy theres a lot. Theres over 1100 producer processors in Washington State and about 400 licensed retail stores. Raft weed is everybody smokes weed. Joy theres so many people of all different types that smoke weed. We did a store visit and we saw people come in and out. Grandmas, moms, professionals. Like, im sure if that store took demographics of their clientele, they would have a spectrum of different type of people. Anthony people like to get high. What do they want these days . Theres so many choices. Joy our biggest seller is the prerolls. People like readymade cannabis. Raft people want to buy and get high. Anthony loose joints . Joy loose joints, most people anthony really . Joy people dont like to roll on their own. Anthony they dont know how to roll joints. People, teach your children, well, i mean, this is a basic life skill. Joy what do you smoke . Anthony well i like to smoke as i said, i like to smoke weed. The Alaskan Thunder there is an irresistible package. Raft Alaskan Thunder . Thats old school, um, hells angels. Thats their old school strain. Joy did you smoke it . Anthony yeah, i cant compare and contrast because ive been trying them all one after the other. Raft right. Anthony i mean, ive been smoking weed since i was 13. Raft right. Anthony you know, all the bad shit that was supposed to happen, if you know, smoked too much weed, it didnt really happen. But looking in on my own life, you know, ive seen my ambition, uh, you know, there were things i was thinking about doing, but you know, once i start smoking some good weed, i was just like, mm, yeah. [ laughter ] raft ok, im good. [music] bonvoy. Bonvoy. Bonvoy. Bonvoy. Bonvoy. Bonvoy. 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Anthony people like me, someone who has cooked his whole life, i live in terror of bread. Anything that rises, in fact. Like a horse senses my fear and insecurity, and misbehaves. Im tenuous with any doughs. You know, i see people who work with it all the time, theyre slapping it around like its nothing. And im like this,and it always goes wrong on me, its just never quite right. Will your work help me in my nathan it will help you, tony. Bread is actually amazingly robust. Although you have lots of recipes, recipes arent as important as understanding the fundamentals of whats going on. And once you do, its, its really quite forgiving. Anthony few things are more mysterious and unquantifiable than the bagel. Can one perhaps create the perfect bagel, with toppings that dont fall off . As a new yorker, im inclined to say no. But now, im not sure. And, whats this . Bread in a jar . But, but what . Anthony what is going on here . Nathan this is the kind of sick thing we do. We wondered, could you can bread . By god, you can. This is rum babas, which is a bread, in the sense it uses yeast. Anthony yes. Nathan and we canned them. And now watch what happens when we open it up. [ laughter ] isnt that awesome . Anthony thats really good. And how long will it stay in there . Nathan nine months. Anthony so i could have perfectly fresh bread in nine months if i just pop the top on that thing . You know, jaded cooks and chefs like me, they still find their certain unknowables or things that cause them to pause in the kitchen and gaze with wonder, at the magic of Something Like bread. Arent you afraid that in some way youre doing satans work here by quantifying magic . Food is a very romantic thing. Its usually experienced at best, in an emotional way nathan absolutely. Anthony by explaining it. Nathan absolutely, its emotional. Absolutely it can be art, but knowing how to do it right, to me doesnt diminish that. Anthony across the water from my hotel in the puget sound, just outside the city limits, the wilderness opens up and its beautiful. Lord of fire in the sky getting level, neon devil holy holy in my mind to abide and crucify with blue blue sea far away anthony on vashon island, a clam bake. With dungeness crab, spot prawns, mussels, corn and potatoes covered in kelp and steamed together under burlap. Old school. Lord of fire in the sky getting level, neon devil holy holy in my mind to abide and crucify with blue blue sea far away chefs grant crilly and chris young worked with nathan at modernist cuisine before breaking off to do their own thing, chef steps, a hightech outfit, dedicated to help people cook better with stepbystep video apps and interactive content. Chris essentially, the way we look at it is, our job is to help people cook cook a meal for their family, cook a meal for their friends where theyre happy and didnt know they could cook that well. Because we are kind of technologists too, we think, you know, theres a role for technology. But there is also a role for craft and tradition. Anthony i think theres an element of uncertainty and risk that is very exciting to me, when i cook. You know, its the imperfections in life that are most interesting. If everybody knew how to sauce pasta correctly, i dont know that that would make me happier. Chris the kitchen is pretty scary place for a lot of people. And so, if you can Bring Technology in, it takes that fear away because they know that its going to come out well, theyre going to be happy with the result, itll get them to cook again. Coming from the guys who, you know, wrote modernist cuisine, were trying to find that 21st century blend between youtube and instagram and technology and tools like that with the things that are great about cooking, which is sharing the meal. Anthony i think youre missing a central dynamic here, i mean why do people instagram pictures of food . To share their wonderful eating experience . No, its to make other people feel bad about what theyre eating. Its like look, im eating all these incredible crabs and youre sitting at home in some, you know, dirty underwear eating doritos. I mean, hopefully. Chris i mean, doritos are pretty tasty. [ laughter ] why do salads settle on the same 5 things . Theres thousands of ingredients out there. The freshest stuff this planet can grow. Not buzzword fresh. But, actually freshfresh. Fresh. At panera, we handpick berries at peakseason. Use creamy avocado. Cagefree eggs. And a dressing fit for a goddess. Oh and every ingredient is 100 clean. Come taste what a salad should be. And for your next event big or small, try panera catering. Panera. Food as it should be. Likewise ee you again please. Cosmopolitan . Nope ill have a stella artois. Your stella, miss. Thank you wild night, huh . White russian . Nah, gary, gimme a stella arttoes. Excuse me. Good choice. Well, changing can do a little good. Dude abides. Hey, who are you . Oh, hey jeff, im a car thief. What . im here to steal your car because, well, thats my job. What . What . . What . laughing what . . What . what . [crash] what . haha, it happens. And if youve got cutrate car insurance, paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. So get allstate. And be better protected from mayhem. Like me. To save 30 on all the medications we carry. So go directly to petmeds. Com now. Anthony it is probably unfair to suggest that the Pacific Northwest and seattle area had been home to a disproportionally large amount of serial killers, but ill do it anyway. Waiter shuck taylor oysters, here. Anthony wonderful, thank you. Waiter anything else i can grab you gentlemen . Anthony uh, im good for now. Waiter good for now . Alright, enjoy. Anthony im going for that fat bastard,that sounds interesting. Anthony fred moody is a writer and bartender. Jack whisner is a transit planner for king county metro. And knute berger is a journalist and columnist for seattle weekly. Old school seattle, all. Taylor shellfish oyster bar in Pioneer Square is old school too. The Taylor Family has been farming more than 12,000 acres of tidelands in the puget sound, willapa bay and the hood canal for over five generations, since 1890. With three restaurants in town, they know what theyre doing. Anthony are you eating this whole . Head, tail, bones and all . Knute yes. Anthony whole local smelt, flashfried and served with pepperoncini sambal aioli. Local dungeness crab, cooked and chilled with pickled ginger sauce. And oysters, lots of oysters. Anthony so seattle has been, for a very long time, considered one of the more foodie, for lack of a better word, foodie cities. Knute yeah. Anthony if you ask people why, generally they said the sheer abundance of really good ingredients. Knute yeah, exactly. I mean you got the ocean there, youve got cattle country and Orchard Country just over the mountains. Anthony yeah. Knute to say why the things is changed in seattle is theres not just the Pike Place Market but every neighborhood has a market that anthony has a green market. Knute yeah, and so those entrepreneurs have a place to sell, they can go to all the markets or just some of them. But its really fantastic. Anthony so, everybody born and bred in seattle . Knute i was. Yeah. Anthony born here . Jack yes. Fred bellingham, which is anthony oh sure, serial killer capital of the world. I was in a bar there where both ted bundy and the green river killer had been patrons, yeah. Jack bundy was born in tacoma. Anthony right. Fred the hillside strangler and also the beltway sniper. Knute the worst one was the green river killer. Fred yeah. Anthony but why is seattle and the Pacific Northwest such a magnet for serial killers, any theories . Knute you know, people come here to hide out. They think, well, they look at the map and its like jack the two mountain rangers are just a couple hours away. Knute literally you could hide bodies, like a short drive from wherever you are. Anthony so, a convenient body dump . Knute body dumping, yes. I mean thats got to be part of it. You have all that lush greenery. Anthony if youre looking to dump a body, seattle. Knute ive always thought the rain was kind of part of it. You get to that stretch from maybe october to february and by the time youre in february, i mean, you want to become a serial killer. I mean anthony apparently you can. [ laughter ] anthony is seattle a teeming hive of serial killers . Or am i just an idiot with a morbidly overactive imagination and an attraction to the dark, ugly side of life. Meet retired homicide detective Mike Ciesynski who for over 12 years specialized in cold cases in the region. We meet at the shanghai room in greenwood where fred moody tends bar. The north star diner next door provides nourishment. Crab, bacon and melted cheese is, when discussing dump sites and ligature marks, a must. Anthony why does it seem that theres a disproportionate number of serial killers in the seattle and Washington State area . Do you have a theory on that . Mike well, i dont think that most serial killers went shopping for areas where they lived, this is just where they ended up. When youre a detective for as long as ive been a detective and youre around very evil people, its a place where i dont want you to have to come look at through my eyes. I can talk to you about it and all that but i hope you never have to see it, like i seen it. Because you know, its a different place. Its a place you dont want to be. Anthony how many, uh, how many working serial killers do you think are out there right now in the Washington State area . Mike i would say i mean easily right now, easily over 75 people out here that are probably serial murderers. The fbi listed as anthony whoa, 75 . Mike oh yeah. I dont care how nice it is here and you know, fun seattle and stuff, you know, i know how many evil people are running around here. Anthony so, do you think these guys are holding down regular jobs . Mike well yeah, they could just go on and have their, you know, what would seem to us as a regular life. They could also have wives anthony i always wonder about the wives, its like, dont you notice, you know, the mementos and the unusual odor coming from the crawl space . I mean what the. Mike john wayne gacy, exactly. You know, and uh, whats with the whole clown outfit, johnny . Anthony i mean, first of all, all you have to do is put on a clown suit, and already youre a suspect. The water. The exercise. The fiber. Month after month, and i still have belly pain and recurring constipation. So i asked my doctor what else i could do, and i said yesss to linzess. Linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. 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I have given to you jane a torn and tattered love but do you hear the rolling bells that ring down from above thought id rule like charlemagne but ive become corrupt now i crawl the promenade to fill my empty cup and youre free youre free again one more time anthony mark lanegan is, to my mind, one of the greatest living singersongwriters making music today. His songs and lyrics reflective of a long, hard life cut me right down to the bone. His career has spanned two decades beginning with the screaming trees in the 90s and continuing through numerous brilliant collaborations with artists like queens of the stone age, pj harvey, kurt cobain, unkle, mad season, the gutter twins, Isobel Campbell and massive attack. Maybe you know him from such theme songs as this show. Mark wow. Spicy. Anthony yeah, thats good. Anthony dinner with mark and touring guitarist jeff fielder at ocho in ballard, where they serve up generous drinks and tasty spanishinfluenced tapas. Anthony you grew up two hours outside of seattle . Mark yeah, in eastern washington, which is like the countryside, ranching, farming community. Anthony you dont live here anymore, you live in la now . Mark yeah. Anthony how long since you left . Mark its been 20 years. Anthony oh wow. Mark but i come back here, you know, a couple times a year and play shows. I still have family in the city and i think of it as home still, you know, i always will. Its just uh, its the home i dont live in anymore. Would you put on that long white dress while i burn when theres no more tomorrows will you walk with me underground and forgive all my sadness and the sorrows ba dadada da badadadada anthony so how long have you been playing music professionally . Jeff well, kind of the whole time, you know . I mean i played my first gigs when i was 13. Been touring with mark since about 2010. Anthony what was the first band, the first time you were ever on stage . And where was it . Mark it was in my hometown. I was 15 and some guys i worked in a restaurant with had a band. They were older and uh, i sang at one pool party that they had. Anthony what was the set list there . Covers or uh mark a lot of van halen. Anthony oh, wow. Mark styx. Anthony oh, brutal. You have played and play with a lot of different people from different styles of music. I think a lot of musicians i know and have met would have a hard time with that, you seem to move effortlessly around. Mark i dont know, i just been blessed with a lot of opportunity. I get to play with a lot of people whose music i really love, so im happy. You know, after having been in my own band for many years and suddenly like im taking jobs where im just playing part of somebodys set. At first it was a little awkward, but then i grew to really love doing it because it was easy and fun, and there was no pressure. I did that for quite a few years and im available to do that again if anybody wants me. 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