A million winking lights, but we knew where we really were. We were almost home. I took a walk through this beautiful world felt the cool rain on my shoulder found something good in this beautiful world i felt the rain getting colder sha, la, la, la, la, la sha, la, la, la, la, la sha, la, la, la, la, la sha, la, la, la, la anthony oh, enchanted land of my childhood. A cultural petridish, from which regularly issues forth greatness. New jersey, in case you didnt know it, has got beaches, beautiful beaches, and theyre not all crawling with roidraging trolls with reality shows. I grew up summering on those beaches, and they are awesome. Jerseys got farmland. Beautiful bedroom communities where that woman from real housewives who looks like doctor zaius does not live, nor anyone like her. Even the refineries. The endless clover leaves of turnpikes and expressways twisting in unknowable patterns over the wetlands are, to me, somehow, beautiful. To know jersey is to love her. Fort lee, you may have heard of it. Some of governor christies minions allegedly conspired to jam up traffic for a few days. Its a town with a jokey history of corruption. Its also where my beloved hirams is. Open since 1932, and pretty much unchanged ever since, my dad started bringing me and my younger brother chris here in the 50s and they still honor tradition. Hirams waitress two chili cheese dogs. Anthony my happy place. Sometimes i just need that old time flavor, you know . As soon as i could chew food, basically, my dad would take me here. It is a great point of pride and personal satisfaction that ive convinced my daughter that these are the finest hot dogs in the land. She gets very excited to come out here, which makes me very happy. Thank you. Thank you. Now this is key, these tooth picks just like 1958. Some things just shouldnt change. My dad used to love piccalilli, red relish. I love this stuff. Look at that beauty. Oh yeah, i come here to feed my soul. The cultural wellspring that is new jersey. Its the antidote to every other place. This place is perfect. The dogs are amazing. There are not a lot of people in this world crageous enough to not change. Down the shore. Yeah, we actually talk like that. It was what we did. Go down the shore. Not just our family from Bergen County near the bridge, but middle class and working class families from philly and all over whod pack up the kids in the Station Wagon from the seemingly interminable trip to long beach island. Just getting out of the driveway was a big deal. Chris plus, it always took three extra hours just to load the damn cars, you know . Anthony there was always drama. Chris strapping crap to the roof of the car. Anthony where once we were over the manahawkin bridge, the excitement would ratchet up. Ship bottom, then surf city, harvey cedars, loveladies, ticking off the town names until finally, finally, barnegat light. Thats new. These are all new. Thats original. Chris yeah, definitely. Anthony in fact, i think i know who lived there at one point. Thats awesome. Chris thats definitely old school. Anthony but, look, lets face it. Its been how many years . I mean, like, 40 . Chris uh, theres a four on it, i think. Anthony jesus, were old. And the lighthouse chris i definitely remember going to that lighthouse a lot of times. Anthony ah, the good old days. I want some fried clam strips. Chris absolutely. Anthony well, our options are limited, shall we say, but holy crap this place is filling up. Chris i think because its the only place. Anthony yeah, but still, who lives out here year round . Chris were about to see every single one of them. Anthony lets be honest. When wed come here in the summers, i was the bad one. Chris yes, your recollection is correct. Anthony i was up to every variety of criminal antisocial behavior. I didnt smoke dope for the first time here. I was looking for dope, but as a 12yearold, it was hard to come by. Chris i think i vaguely remember you walking off with some kind of cute girl. Anthony first kiss that was an important passage. Oh, this is good. Chris this is good. Anthony i realize now that i hitchhiked regularly. Chris yeah. Anthony mom, dad, you know, im going to go down to ship bottom tonight, you know, with some friends. How are you getting there . Well, ill hitchhike down. Okay, have fun. Chris that was cool. All the kids were hitching here, thats how you got places here. Anthony summertime. Do you know that sound . Just out of the water, ears pressed up against the beach blanket, the squeak of bare feet on sand nearby. Classics illustrated comics waiting for me back at the house. Id play with my little Plastic Army Men in the dunes. And theres a smell of beach grass in the dunes. You know . Can you remember it . Chris i still crave it. I love it. Anthony and on special occasions, clams in drawn butter. No matter where i find them now, they always bring me back here. Anthony i remember this place with nothing but fondness. I mean, i cant remember a single bad memory here. Chris it was great. People you knew from last year were here. Youd roll out onto the street your parents didnt need to be with you. Have a campfire on the beach at night. You can set off firecrackers. All the stuff they wouldnt let you do at home. Anthony the beach would look different. For a couple of days, the whole beach would be, like, this weird foamy surf, like, this giant, like, frothy bubbles. Oh yeah, here, now, were talking. Thank you. Chris yeah, or there would be the jellyfish delivery sometimes. Where thered be, like, millions of them all over. Anthony infestation of jellyfish, right. I try to block that out. Chris that wonderful feeling of, you know, you were with other 10yearolds alone at night, you know, on the beach. It was great. Anthony love clam strips. Chris these are great. Anthony this is awesome. So far, so great. Im happy. Properly battered pieces of fish and some good tartar sauce. What were your favorite activities . Chris building a fire on the beach. Anthony right, overturning the lifeguard stand. Chris yes, had to go. Anthony they were representatives of the man. Chris firecrackers on the beach. Anthony firecrackers on the beach. Chris i have some firecrackers in your car by the way. Just saying. Anthony good. Set them off in the elevator at the casino. Chris perfect, perfect. Thank you. Anthony it was paradise. Americas first dream vacation. The beach, as far as america was concerned, meaning bathing suits and swimming in the surf, was pretty much invented here. Atlantic city. Rich, a working class, it was here for you. Back then you dressed up to walk the boardwalk. It was capitalism at its purest and most assertive. It was a democratic dream designed from the beginning for everybody. Flashy, utilitarian, upright, deeply unapologetically corrupt. The knife and fork inn was right there through it all. In many ways its story, a perfect reflection of changing times. Established in 1912 as a socalled gentlemans dining and drinking club, the second floor originally had curtained alcoves and a separate ladies lounge. Private rooms on the third and fourth floor were set aside for games of chance and perhaps other activities. Vicki gold levis dad was the chief photographer for Atlantic City from the 1930s to the 1960s. He saw it all, and by extension so did vicki. What was it like here as a kid . Vicki it was fantastic. Walking down the boardwalk in the summertime was like walking in a carnival in midway. The cacophony of noises. Anthony there were still remnants of the 20s. Vicki yeah. Anthony that sensibility, that look, handlebar mustaches, victorian Graphic Design and illustration, a weird stuck in time feel was still very much in evidence, even in my time here in the early 60s. The boardwalk was over six miles of amusements, entertainments, parades, and pageants. A neverending carnival. Vicki every place you went down the boardwalk was Something Else to see, and all the stores were like mom and pop stores. All very unique. Anthony yes. Vicki i love that. Anthony the world famous steel pier, amusements arcades, barkers, novelties, saltwater taffy. Anthony i love the joke shops. Vicki the joke shops anthony it was a wonderland of juvenile delinquency, cause, like, id go in and just buy dog, you know, plastic dog crap and plastic vomit and smoke powder and it was just something very sinister and forbidden and, you know, my parents indulged me when i was here. The menu has changed somewhat since the original. For me, a very tasty pretzel crusted swordfish over lump crabmeat. For vicki, pan seared scallops. My memories of Atlantic City are largely built around the time before gambling. Times were not good. I mean, the marlboroughblenheim, i remember it well, was largely empty, but it was a magnificent structure. Vicki i mean, you and i like the nostalgia and people who like coney island like it, but i dont know about the young people. Anthony beautiful buildings are beautiful buildings. You know . A beautiful view is a beautiful view forever. Vicki well, yes. Anthony theres no place with this kind of history and legitimacy. This place has deep romantic allure. Vicki i agree with you. I believe in the transition thats coming. I really, really do with all my heart. Anthony theyre the kind of businesses that you talk about that used to be here. Its not a matter of, gee it would be really great if that kind of thing happened again. It is inevitable that that will happen again and its worth fixing. Atlantic city could be chic, easily because the bones, the skeletons of this city are beautiful. Vicki im glad you feel that way. Anthony there is, even in very young people, particularly now, beautiful old things. A beautiful old restaurant with really great food, for instance. Vicki like were eating in right now. Anthony yeah, is much more interesting that a glass box with good food. Three states away. Son i can do whatever i want. Mom i can drive up here anytime i want. Mom hes going to be so homesick. Son this is gonna be so sick. No matter if your journey takes six years. Or 72,000 miles. Your volkswagen is covered with americas best bumpertobumper limited warranty. Over. Hey, want to try it . Ok here you go. Over. Under. Hey whoa, pop, pop. Your shoes untied. Ensure hes well taken care of, even as you build your own plans for retirement. See how lincoln can help protect your savings from the impact of longterm care expenses at lincolnfinancial. Com. Pardon the interruption but this is big now with tmobile get the Samsung Galaxy s10e included with unlimited data for just 40 a month. 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The ebb and flow of americas hopes and dreams played out in the buildings and homes you see as you pass by. Magnificent mansions mixed in with inexpensive twofamily houses, cheap takeout, the footprints of a lost world. The riviera of the northeast, still there if you look between. With jet travel in miami and an expanded highway system, things declined, as they do, but a few visionary geniuses presented a solution. A cure that would overnight make everybody well. Make Atlantic City shiny and new and prosperous again. Men like donald trump. Donald i think its going to be really very beneficial to everybody. We look forward to operating the taj mahal successfully for many years to come. Anthony vast new xanadus would be constructed and wouldbe kublai khans rushed to Atlantic City, eager to tap into what was assured to be a neverending gusher of prosperity. Casino gambling. When casino gambling was sold to the state of new jersey, to Atlantic City, as the cure all, it was going to bring it back to its glory days. Did that ever happen . Brian i mean, you drove around today, did you think this place is better than it was then . Do you think, do you think it helped . Anthony no, i dont. New jersey native Brian Donahue is a reporter with 20 Years Experience focusing on south jersey. Docks oyster house, an establishment that survived prohibition, the great depression, two world wars, numerous declines and rebirths, still here, still great, a symbol of what Atlantic City was and should be again, could be again. Brian to bring a city back after its decline is a really complicated, hard, process and they wanted easy answers and casino gambling was seen as an easy answer. Anthony yes, it sure sounded like a good idea. Brian they were going to put this plan in effect. 12 casinos here, bring everybody up from the top down. It hasnt worked. Now youre left with just 12 casinos. Anthony and if youre looking for an example of lemming like lurch towards a shiny new cliff face from which to tumble, look no further than this 2. 4 billion goat rodeo, the revel. It opened in 2012 and closed less than two years later the most expensive casino in new jersey history. Brian they just forged ahead with it. The hubris was incredible. Anthony what were they thinking . Brian shortterm money and at a time when all these other casinos were opening all over the entire east coast. Anthony which is nuts. Its economics 101. Anthony casinos, of course, by design neglect the citys existing assets. Salt air, a walk by the glorious north atlantic, the greatest of all earths bodies of water, the classic attractions, the restaurants. Brian this is what its going to take for Atlantic City to come back. Its going to be on places like this. We celebrate the ghosts, you know . Anthony some nice crab cakes at docks. A big freaking lobster stuffed with crab imperial, pommes souffle, those things are bad for business the business of taking your money. Anthony thank you so much. Lovely, thatll work. Thats good. Yeah, oh, thats good. I dont want to sound like im down on Atlantic City because i see this incredibly, almost ludicrously, hopeful place, so whatever left of it should be, to my mind, hung onto because theyre going to come around. Theres nothing funny about losing all your money. Yet casinos are steady employers of that most hardworking species of entertainer. Comedians rich voss and Bonnie Mcfarlane are two of the hardest working people around, married to each other and new jersey. Rich its so much money to live here. I drove three exits on the jersey turnpike. It was 7. See, if you drive the whole new jersey turnpike, when you get to the end, you have to give them your car. Bonnie im going to tell you guys something that i dont generally tell people right away. Im a vegan. Im very passionate about it. Its all about eating a cruelty free lifestyle. No animal or animal byproduct of any kind. I do cheat a little. I eat veal. Its so good. Its so tender. How do they get it like that . Anthony im very sentimental about jersey italian, particularly spaghetti and meatballs. Thats what i was going to go for. Rich ive eaten here at least five to ten times and ive never had a bad meal, ever. Anthony oh, okay, i know what exactly. Rich i wouldnt get the meatballs. [ laughter ] anthony proud, longtime residents of new jersey . Bonnie no, ive lived here nine years, but only been proud maybe the last two. It took me a long time to sort of anthony get up to speed . Bonnie yeah. Anthony born and bred . Rich yes my whole life. Bonnie he wont leave. I had to make peace with it. Anthony whens the first time you played Atlantic City . Rich there was a club at the sands. Many times i would get paid on thursday and i would lose it all and then id have to work for free. Theres no worse feeling. Anthony oh i know that feeling. Rich its a nightmare. You ever watch a couple in Atlantic City . Okay dear hold this money, dont give it back to me no matter what i tell you. I dont care what i say. An hour later. Give me my god damn money. No im not fooling around. Youre lucky i even brought you here, bitch. You better give me my money. Youre the reason im losing. Touching my arm when im shooting craps. Anthony is there a specifically jersey sense of humor that you notice . Bonnie yes. I love jersey audiences now so much because ive never one time ever said anything where people in the audience have gone, aw. They never get offended. We all have our words, you know, that we dont like. The ones that affect us the most. I have my trigger words as a white woman. The word i dont like is no. I dont hear it that often, but when i do, mmmmm. Rich heres the deal with jersey, people land at newark and they drive up the turnpike. They dont turn off and go up into the nice anthony they see the refineries. Rich they think thats new jersey. Anthony but see how sick is that i think its beautiful . Bonnie more horses per capita than any other state. Anthony northern new jersey is the embroidery capital of the world. Rich yeah. Bonnie what . Anthony apparently. I dont know where thats happening. Rich my exwife worked for an embroidery company. Bonnie no. Rich i swear to god. Ill call her right now. Anthony this is the taste of my youth. For all of the marvelous things about new jersey, will people ever come across the bridge and the tunnel in the other direction . Bonnie no. Anthony no . Okay. Bonnie i did not have to think about that. Anthony lets go out to club in jersey. No. Rich no, but you know what . Its all relative. A 25yearold guy or girl is going, were not going to jersey. A 60yearold person is going, im getting the [ bleep ] out of the city and im moving to jersey. Bonnie theres your answer. Theres your answer. Its never going to be hip. Rich you know what . Where does hipness stop . At what age . Bonnie hey, hipness is overrated. Rich yeah, it is overrated. You know what, i love living here. I love it. Pine valley, the best golf course in the country. Trump has a beautiful course here. Anthony now wait a minute, trump. I am not a fan. Rich who is . Anthony every minute that he walks the earth demands a certain complicity to not shout out, will you look at that ridiculous looking [ bleep ] head. Its like if you have a disfigurement, that sort of tacit agreement that, im just not going to bring it up. Thats too much to ask of me in trumps case. I want to scream. Rich do you know why he puts his names on the buildings . So the banks know which ones to take back. Okay . At least hes a humble guy. Jesus. Lets be honest dealing with your insurance can be frustrating. But with esurance, just snap some pics and you could get back on the road fast well, not that fast. 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Its like the poster child for everything a city could screw up. Once a manufacturing powerhouse, home to the new york ship building corporation, the Campbells Soup Company and rca victor records, a company town. About 80,000 people live here today. Thats the same number of people who were employed during its heyday. Nearly 40 of the citys High School Students dont graduate. The entire police force replaced by the state. More than one third of City Residents live below the poverty line. Voter turnout, not good. If theres any place one could be forgiven for just throwing your hands up in the air and giving up its here, but no. Needxtraordinary people and Tawanda Jones is clearly an extraordinary person. Tawanda when you give, especially to someone who is really in need, you know, i feel, um, it makes me feel complete. Anthony her late grandfather, walter green jr. , was a former military man, an employee of rca, and a bodyguard for the great boxer, jersey joe walcott. Tawanda he was just, like, the protector, you know . If you need anything, you go to mister dynamite. That was his nickname. Anthony he was also a man who believed in being part of the community. When tawanda was 15, she was asked to lead a local drill team. Unfortunately it soon lost its funding. Walter purchased 80 uniforms and three drums to give them a start. Woman move group our deepest fear is not that were angry. Our deepest fear is how powerful beyond it. Anthony today, css, the camden sophisticated sisters drill team, which includes the distinguished brothers and taps, the almighty percussion sound, have over 320 participants. Tawanda good job, babies. Good job. Clap it up for yourself. Clap it up. Clap it up. Anthony we meet at neighborhood stalwart tony ruths steaks, still doing what they do. Tawanda it doesnt get any better than this. Anthony what was camden like back in the good old days . Tawanda oh my god. It was so different coming up when i was younger. I didnt have to worry about, you know, my life being threatened coming outside, you know . The neighborhood, everyone knew everybody. That sense of community was strong back then. Anthony youre talking about your childhood as if it was a real long time ago. Its not that long ago. Im an old dude. Tawanda right. Anthony what the hell went wrong . Tawanda people can blame it on the politics, but i think thats just too easy. Many have failed our children, but its up to the parents to really start getting more involved in a kids education. You know, know what your child is doing. Anthony so youre putting it principally on the parents. Tawanda absolutely. Anthony this is tasty. Tawanda this is delicious. Anthony so the conventional wisdom seems to be its time to get out of camden. Why are you still here . Tawanda because the need is in camden. If every decent person in camden leaves camden, then we never have a chance. In order to be a part of the program you have to maintain a c average or better. Anthony right. Tawanda its all about the academics. Its all about nurturing these kids. Whats right . Whats wrong . You know . The drill team does that. They have different sayings that they go by every day. Its a start without a finish. It is possible. Group it is never impossible. If i can believe that i can achieve what is possible is possible is possible. Tawanda and they believe this. You know, they say it so much until its embedded. Anthony tawanda has helped css support itself with Financial Assistance from fellow parents and some fundraising, temporary help and donations from small businesses, but surprisingly for a group with a national profile, no lasting support from official organizations or National Institutions public or private. Yet she perseveres. A lot of your practices are done outdoors. Tawanda right. Anthony all weather type of a situation. Tawanda yes, weve been under bridges, everything. Over 28 years weve been outside. Their safety is the most important to me, you know, but its been a blessing and a curse because youll have the corner boys come up to you and ask you, ms. Wawa are you having practice outside today . And ill say, yeah. Theyll be like, todays not a good day, and im like, okay, all right, thank you very much. Anthony thats nice. Tawanda right, you know, and i appreciate it. Trust me. Anthony how do you keep these kids off the corner . Tawanda im quite aware that times are hard, but i just try to show them an alternative route. Saying that theres so much more out there than this. Some of them call me major pain, but its all out of love, you know . They need that structure and discipline in life, period, to go to work, to go to school. Anthony theyre doing it because its fun. Tawanda right. Anthony but its hard. Tawanda yeah. Anthony youre asking people to do a hard thing and theyre doing it . Tawanda yeah. Anthony and i got to ask, im going to guess that in the years that youve been doing this, you had to have your heart broken many times. You had to have seen kids who you really believed in fall by the wayside and im guessing a lot. How do you go on . Tawanda we do have a lot of sad stories, but we have more good. Our good outweighs the bad, you know . And i keep going just for that reason, you know . Um, before i was a little hard on myself and, um, i used to actually think that i can save all the kids. I know thats not the case, you know . Um, i just do the best that i can do and i just pray that the next kid doesnt, you know, fall by the wayside. Anthony how do you not become cynical . Do you harden your heart or just tawanda no, actually i have to replenish myself or im not going to be any good to them or my own family. These kids are like precious cargo to me. Some have pretty tough lives. Some of them have the responsibility of a 30something year old. Theyre holding down their homes and theyre only kids. No kid should have to go through that. Anthony 25 years down the road, what do you think camden is going to be like . Tawanda wow, im praying that it turns into the camden that i remember and i know that im helping our future leaders to become a part of that change. Im very hopeful and theres no doubt in my mind that there is going to be a positive camden. No doubt. Anthony youre going to stay . Tawanda im not going anywhere. My pop pop didnt leave. Im not leaving. Anthony yeah, i know. Philadelphia is right over there. Right across the ben franklin bridge, the center of the cheese steak universe, but what if it isnt . Theyre better than that, theyre bigger than that, and the best cheese steak in the area might well come from new jersey. Donkeys, opened by leon lucas 71 years ago. A heavyweight contender in the 1928 summer olympics in boxing, he was known during his time in the cavalry as the donkey. Robert they said he had a punch like the kick of a mule. So somebody gave him the handle of donkey. And he kept it. Anthony his son robert runs the joint now and this is what they do here. Behold, the jersey cheese steak. Robert pleasure to meet you. Anthony so this is the place. The best cheese steak in south jersey unless im mistaken . Robert eh, in new jersey. Anthony new jersey, period . Robert yeah. Anthony is there a difference between jersey style and philadelphia style . Robert yeah, we do ours on a round poppy seed kaiser role. Anthony really . Ill have one of those. Whats the way to go . I mean, anything i need to know or just robert no, regular, cheese and onions. Anthony beautiful thing. Robert i need one, paulie. Anthony its round, its got steak, spices, browned onions, real american cheese, such as it is, and a poppy seed roll. Fantastic. Thank you, sir. And it is sublime. Relish, what do you think . Robert thats hot pepper, yeah. A little bit of that wont hurt. Anthony a little bit . Oh man, i drove a long way for this. Thinking about it the whole way. Robert good. Anthony oh man this should be, like, a National Landmark right away. This sandwich is unbelievably good. Robert thanks. Anthony its really a thing of beauty. Robert thats good to hear. Anthony worth driving across the state in a blizzard for. Robert we get a lot of people from philly. Anthony no way, philly . Robert oh yeah, for sure. Anthony wow thats treason. Do they, like, change the plates on their car or like wear a disguise, i mean robert its different. The poppy seeds help. Anthony yeah, i like this roll. Its awesome. Just delicious. Well, i think weve learned something here today. Jersey cheese steaks, im not saying theyre better than philadelphia. Yeah i am, actually. So there. This is great. Robert glad you enjoyed it. Introducing the new Capital One Savor card. Earn 4 cash back on dining and 4 on entertainment. Now when you go out, you cash in. Whats in your wallet . 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Paul the legend of the jersey devil was mother leeds had twelve kids, found herself pregnant with the thirteenth and said, may this child be a devil. Theres many legends that are told about it, but that legend says that when the jersey devil was born it morphed into this creature, flew up the chimney and was gone into the night. Other legends say it killed everybody in the room. Its supposed to have the head of a horse, wings of a bat, hoofs, but you have people that say theyve seen horns on it. It breathes fire. Its got a real long tail with a triangle on it. Anthony i mean, it sounds like my little pony with a fork tail. It doesnt sound frightening to me. Paul its supposed to have big red eyes and some people say the head of a goat. Anthony its a big po goat . Goats a little scarier. The folks that live in the barrens they have a story they tell about that old leeds woman and her child from hell the night hes born, he took wings on and flew out into the night say you still hear him screaming when the conditions are right yeah i swear its true these pine barren blues anthony whats out there . Who are pineys . Do they roam the forest at night searching for souls to capture . Paul nah. Pineys are people that live in the pine barrens. There was a time years ago that if you wouldve called somebody like that a piney, youd have got shot. Anthony really . Paul but now people embrace it. People like to be thought of as living off the land. They have bumper stickers now, you know, piney power. Anthony how do you make your living . Paul its good to farm blueberries and cranberries. Its a lot of fishing, a lot of clamming, hopefully the oystering is coming back in the delaware bay. The bay supported a lot of jobs. Anthony the pine barrens have been settled for a long time. Paul a long time. Some of the first people who came here were the glassmakers. Saw this incredible sand that we have out here called sugar sand. Pure white and its perfect for making glass to the point that it didnt have to be washed or processed in any other way. There was hundreds of glassworks, theyre just ruins now. Thank you. Anthony thank you. So its not like the rest of jersey here . Paul oh no. And i hope it stays like it. Its like a jersey unto itself. Out here, like you saw, kind of a long drive to get anywhere. Anthony thats good by the way, thats really good. Paul oh yeah, isnt it great . Pardon the interruption but this is big now with tmobile get the Samsung Galaxy s10e included with unlimited data for just 40 a month. Webut some of us turn outhose dreams. Into action. The bookers. The doers. The hit that confirmation button and lets go ers because bookers know that the Perfect Place to stay. Is right there for the booking. Be a booker at booking. 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Springsteen, bon jovi, little steven, but before them there was this man Southside Johnny who, with his asbury jukes, pretty much created the template for the jersey sound, a place, and really it couldve only been this place, that changed music and lyrics forever. Asbury park. Its had a reputation as being a happy Hunting Ground for musicians because what, a lot of bars . Johnny a lot of bars, it just was a tradition of bands playing here, which is funny because the town was started not to have alcohol and not that kind of music, but after a while the pressure just was too much for entertainment for people to come here. It morphed into an r b and rock and roll haven. Anthony most bars dont hire musicians, they dont hire bands, theyre too much trouble. Johnny well this is the jersey shore though, i mean the jersey shore means people want entertainment. Anthony right. Johnny its not just hard drinking people, theres people here on vacation in the summer. Anthony but Atlantic City didnt have that reputation. Johnny well, were not Atlantic City. Were asbury park. Anthony as i always like to say, good is good forever, great music, great songs and a classic jersey sandwich, and at franks they honor that jersey tradition of assertive layers of sliced ham, salami, pepperoni, provolone, with some tomato, onions, shredded lettuce. You got your roasted peppers in there and most important your oil and vinegar, which soaks into that soft, fresh baked bread and marries it all together into a soggy glorious delivery vehicle for deliciousness. There we go, thank you. Waitress italian sub, enjoy. Anthony aw, its such a beautiful thing they shred the lettuce and everything. You used to come here as a kid . Johnny yes, my father, he would order like a pastrami sandwich. Anthony yeah. Johnny and id eat, like, a third of it and hed he eat the rest of it. Then my brother would eat eggs and bacon, so we had to order what he liked. He was a real trencherman, he could really eat. Anthony asbury park, like its close cousin Atlantic City, with whom it had so much in common, suffered from much of the same problems. 14 years ago last time i came it was a shell of itself. Dying, the beach is empty, a sad and forlorn place. Unlike Atlantic City though, asbury park fought to fix itself to become again the kind of place that anybody would want to live in. They didnt look for a magic bullet like casino gambling, and to a great extent theyve succeeded by keeping alive what made asbury park special, they hung on to what was important. Like this place where any overgrown child still wants to play. Johnny misspent youth, thank god. Anthony what . Tilt . Aw, no way. Thats delicate. Johnny come on, hit it. Hit baby, hit it. Man these are tough. Anthony this is important for children. Johnny i think so. Anthony you know, your first exposure to racy images of women are all set in some sort of 20s fetishistic alternate universe. Also it teaches you shame. Johnny and teaches you humility when you lose. Anthony and exactly the limits of how much you can break the rules before it tilts. Johnny you know i think they should have tilt for all sorts of things. Anthony i think so too. Johnny you step over the line in a bar talking to a young lady, tilt anthony tilt johnny and that way you know you got to start again, ah i tilted it already. I barely touched it. Anthony yeah, yeah. Johnny what are you talking about . Anthony thats what they all say. Johnny wait a minute. Imma got ugatzo here, i got a nut. Anthony oh god. Johnny let me play ready to juvederm it . Correct agerelated volume loss in cheeks with Juvederm Voluma xc, add fullness to lips with juvederm ultra xc and smooth moderate to severe lines around the nose and mouth with juvederm xc. Tell your doctor if you have a history of scarring or are taking medicines that decrease the bodys immune response or that can prolong bleeding. 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Looking at it always a humbling, even educational, experience. It teaches us that men come and go, but no matter how foolish or outsized their dreams, how badly they screw up, what we do here at the oceans edge, the sea will outlast us, will always draw us to her edges. When necessary, it will crush us. I mean, look at the taj. Its completely oblivious to everything going on around it. Yeah, and that has to got to be the most butt ugly building ever. Chris i noticed last night that some of the lights on the sign on the building are out. Anthony yeah its like trup. Chris Something Like that, yeah. Anthony or tump. Or rump. I mean, its sort of perfect actually. If you think of trump as sort of carnival barker, his operation is designed to attract rubes and empty, youve got sort of a perfect metaphor here. Chris yeah. Anthony i hate sweets, but im a sucker for nostalgia. You cant go back, i cant go back. Hell, i wouldnt even if i could. I sure dont want to ever have to be a teenager again, but those tastes and smells of childhood, they work still. Now, youre telling me you were not a big saltwater taffy fan . Chris i just remember it was hard to chew. Anthony you had braces, remember . So this was probably chris i mean, it may have before that. I dont know. I cant remember if i had braces at that point. Anthony i dont like candy generally but these have a mystical hold on me. I mean even the color of the wrapper has this weird, you know, like, there should be weird music playing in the background molasses, i totally remember that. Gettin a bunch of those, i dont know why certain flavors really resonate. The peanut i know exactly what that tastes like. I remember the vanilla really powerfully. Look, im not even a vanilla guy. Im more of a chocolate guy. Chris i think i remember a pink one so i mean they mustve had strawberry. Anthony wintergreen i remember. Chris licorice sounds good. Anthony ooh, peppermints, id keep these in the car. Chris it looks like cookies and cream. Does it melt . Anthony whoa, its a lot of taffy. Chris yeah. Anthony this stuff isnt fattening, by the way, so eat as much as you want. Chris is it gluten free . Anthony its allnatural. Chris thats what i thought. Anthony Atlantic City will never die. Good is indeed good forever. And Atlantic City will be great again. Asbury park, camden, all of my home state. Im convinced when the tide has come and washed all the greed heads away, it will once again be magic. I hope im there to see it. Bondi one of our roles here has always been to take away excess money from people who dont know what to do with it, who cant think of a better idea about how to spend their money. In the old days, the mechanism for doing that was youd throw it on a table. Put that into the context of throwing away a bottle of 7up at a club, thats only just slightly more honest about it. Anthony if youre talking crass commercialism, in the very best sense of the word this is it. Is it the Cultural Center of the country . We may not want to think it is, but is it . Bondi what is the rest of the country . I dont know but its that place