E of the conversation. Lets take polls. First, Washington Post poll monday. Great news for you. Huge lead in the republican field. The poll today, not so good news for you. In the general election voters, colorado, iowa, virginia, you have the worst Favorability Ratings of any one. Republican, democrat, negative favorability of 2 1. Hillary clinton did badly. I havent seen it. Do Favorability Ratings worry you . I dont think so. I turned a lot around. In North Carolina it was negative. Now tremendously positive. When people hear what i say about the vets and how strong my commitment is to the vets treated badly and to the border which is horrible. Every time people listen to me all of a sudden it becomes very favorable. Good exam pull would be North Carolina, werent so positive. I havent seen that. I think generally speaking we are doing very well. Certainly doing well in the abc Washington Post poll, and every other poll i have seen in the last couple weeks. You think you can turn around. A lot of people say, look, those kind of unFavorability Ratings that does not bode well. Youve think you can turn that around . I dont know. Doing this for the good of the country. Somebody. Politicians will never turn the country around. The politician thousands are going to destroy the country. Weak, ineffective. Controlled by the lobbyists and special interests. You talk lobbyists and special interests. You talked last time. You have given a lot of money to politicians over the years. Democrats, republicans. Arent you part of the problem . Absolutely. 100 . I was on the other sigh. They will do whatever i want. Of until you decide to run. Isnt that hypocritical to say this is a problem. I will make the most. I was playing the game. I was a businessman. I made a fortune. I made a lot of money. I posted over 10 billion. To make money okay to play the game. Its called your life. Im a businessman. I contribute to people. They treat me nicely. And everything else. How do you change that . That culture of money for access . Listen. I read an article. Bush is meeting with lobbyists in washington. Has a meeting with all the lobbyists. Every one of the lobbyists that gives money they expect something for it. Thats a bad thing. I have had lobbyists and some very good ones. They could do anything they can take a politician and have him jump. Off this ledge. Can you change that culture of corruption . Will you can in the sense that the top person cant be bought. Im worth far too much money. I dont need anybodys money. Im not running with any bodys men knee. Spending my own money. The lobbyists they control the politicians. Just take a look in one of the articles recently, i see, bush with the lobbyists. Hes sitting there with all of these people. Theyre totally telling them what to do. Like a little puppet. And the same with hillary. Same with everybody else. When i am in business im part of that game. When im in this. I know. Can you jump back and forth . I am able to do that. Not hypocritical . I made a lot of money. I have heard. I dont need money. I dont need money to run. I dont need 5,000 here. 10,000 here. These guys are desperate for money. I dont need it. I will do what is right for the country. Who will run the businesses . Children and executives. Theyre very good. Jeb bush said if we embrace divisiveness and ugliness we will never win. When you say divisive . Im quoting him. I get called names by Lindsey Graham. I dont even know. I didnt start it with Lindsey Graham. Hes registered at 0 in the poll. Rick perry, in my office a couple years ago, shaking my hand looking for money and looking for support. People will say, i call it hypocrite. Theyre saying horrible things. Like i dont know these people. Theyre saying these, now am i supposed to, you know, just say it is okay for them to say. One guy, i guess its was Lindsey Graham called me a jackass. Am i suppose to say its okay. Im called a jackass. You have to fight back. The country has to fight back. Everyone is pushing our country around. We cant allow that. Is it president ial . To give out a personal phone number . That was a long story. You have to see the whole story the way it morphed. The whole story. He want to get on fox and friends. Called me out of the blue. Never met the guy. Wanted to come in for campaign contributions. Gave me his cell phone number. Starts hitting me years later. I happened to have this crazy phone number. I said this guy was over here and actually, as you probably know, the room was packed, standing room only, in fact they had, other theaters, overflow, closed circuit television. The place went wild. We all had a good time. Is that president ial . I think so. I was hit by somebody unfairly. I was called names by somebody. The somebody hitting me saying what i bad guy i am was up in my Office Asking for money and asking if i can get him on television. When you are president of the United States you will be hit by half the country. Probably not going to look you. Are you going to call them its different. Trying to make the country great again. Politician will never make the country great again. As president you would change your tone . I think so. I would deal very differently. Do you have the temperament to be president . The question jeb bush was raising, divisiveness and language. You have a no prisoners approach. Somebody attacks you. No, i dont have that. I am very different than you would thing. Right now i am fight. I am one in the polls by far. Im being attacked. On all side. Excuse me. In my opinion. This isnt the same thing. In my opinion when attacked you have to you know, defend, and attack back. Okay. Im being attacked by certain people. Actually, bush, i think is probably a nice guy. I dont think he has the temperament. By that, he is a nice guy. But he doesnt have the temperament. He is too low key. He is too laid back. Can you imagine bush negotiating with china . You want to talk about temperament. I will introduce you to the chinese. They have temperament. Can you imagine bush negotiating with china . His brother. George w. Bush said he would be a uniter not a divider. What would you be . A great uniter. We are not united now. We have a president that whether people love him or hate him, the world is a mess. Hillary clinton by the way was the worst secretary of state in the history of this country in my opinion. But we have a president , right now, excuse me, doesnt get along with russia. Doesnt get along with anybody. The only one he gets along with is iran. Even that is very suspect. Because they want to blow everybody up. Back in 2007, you said Hillary Clinton surround her sfl with smart people and could be a good negotiator against iran. Maybe she could be. I dont think so. I know her very well. When i am in the private sector. I am a businessman. I like everybody. I have to deal with these people. I am not going to attack people. Donald trump as president would be different than on the campaign trail. Look at the world today. Who do we get along with . Our allies are decimated. Did a stupid thing in iraq by going in. You know in 2004, i was going against going in. July 2004 reuters, bush sent a group to talk to me. I was getting publicity on the fact that we shouldnt be doing iraq. I am the most militaryistic. You have to know when to use the military. I said you will decimate this country and create an imbalance in the middle east look you have never seen before. Thats what happened. I said iran will take over iraq and the second Largest Oil Reserves in the world. And i also said other groups will take over that will be worse than saddam hussein. You know what, happened, anderson. Isis they took over the oil. Have you publicly acknowledged making a mistake . Look, everyone makes mistakes. Do i publicly acknowledge making mistakes . Do you say i made a mistake . I dont think about it. I dont look to make too many mistakes. From there we talked about Donald Trumps religious faith. Something rick perry called into question, calling him a man too arrogant or self absorbed to seek gods forgiveness. Ill talk to donald trump whether he does ask god for forgiveness and ask him for comments he made the other day and communion, and why one blogger said mr. Trump lost any chance of winning the evangelical vote. Later, breaking news. New revelations in the death of sandra bland in a texas jail after a traffic stop including the fact she was not put on suicide watch despite having said she previously tried to take her own life. Said over the weekend that may have gotten lost in the controversy over some of his remarks. A side of him fair to say you might not know about. I want to ask you about faith. You talked about this on saturday at faith and values. And a lot of people havent heard you talk about it. Fine, fine. By the way i was very well received. I had the biggest standing ovation. The biggest standing ovation. And it was, really a great day. It was really a great day. A lot of people didnt focus on it. They got caught up in the mccain thing. You said at the faith forum when asked if you ever asked for forgiveness from god. Im not sure i have. I try to go on. And do a better job from there. I dont think so. That surprised people of faith. Then i said communion. I go to communion. Thats asking forgiveness. For you a form of asking forgiveness, yes. Communion. I go to church a lot. Im protestant. Presbyterian. The idea of asking for forgiveness, thats not a, is that a central tenet for you . Sore is that something . I look to work where i dont have to ask for forgiveness. I look to do the right thing where i dont have to ask for forgiveness. You know when you dont make such bad things that you dont have to ask for forgiveness. I try to lead a life where i dont have to ask god for forgiveness. I am protestant, presbyterian. A lot of people are surprised to hear. I go to church. The great Norman Vincent peale was, my minister for years. Power of positive thinking fantastic. The notion of forgiveness, thats not a central tenet nor you . I try not to make mistakes where i have to ask for forgiveness. When im asked a question look that. Ive dont look to make a lot of mistakes. I would never ask the detail. The idea of repentance is that something that is important to you . I think repenting is terrific. Do you feel the need to . If i make a mistake. Part of forgiveness. If i make a mistake. I think its great. I try not to make mistakes. Why do i have to repent . Why do i have to ask for forgiveness, if you are not making mistakes . I work hard. Im an honorable person. I have thousand of people that work for me. I have employed tens thoufz sand tens of thousand of people. You give to charity. Built a memorial in manhattan. You talk communion, eucharist, lords supper, different things. I drink my little wine and eat my little cracker. People of faith. They didnt say that at all. When i left i saw people. I got the biggest ovation of the weekend. I saw people and i saw how, a couple of reporters made a big deal out of that. We were having fun. When i said i drink the wine. I eat the cracker. But were talking about communion. You know what the role whole room was laughing. Theyre religious people and great people. The whole room was laughing. Eric eriksson said based on your comments about faith saturday it largely closed the book on evangelical support. Dont think so. I saw polls in iowa i am doing really well in terms of iowa, a really big group of people. The poll in iowa among general. You keep bringing up negative. Why dont you bring up the positive . Excuse me. You started off the interview. You start off the interview with poll i didnt know existed. Intentionally. I knew you would accuse me of that. Every poll i am leading in. You give me the two polls where it is different states. Theyre not even a national poll. Check the record. Im sure the record is fine. I think it is very unfair. Talk to me about a poll i have never even saw. Not even a poll. On three different states. And you are hitting me with this. I think, frankly, i think it is a very fair question. I think it is an extremely, you start off the interview with that. You dont say, i led in the fox poll. Im leading in the abc Washington Post poll. Leading across the board. I am leading across the board. Then you hit me with the poll i didnt see before. Oh, gee not even that kind of a poll. All i know is i have a very big group of support. I think one of the reasons. Among republicans you are way out in the front. The people dont trust you and the people dont trust the media. And politicians. I have been covered, fairly, accurately. A financial press. Numbers are numbers. My numbers happen to be great. I was all way sort of treated fair. With the media its, not all cases, some, some of the political media is great. And really honest. Even if theyve dont want to be. I find, 60 of the 70 of the political media is really, really dishonest. You know i tell the story, the American Dream i talk about the American Dream in speeches. The American Dream is dead. But i will make it bigger, belter, than before. The American Dream is dead. I will make it bigger, stronger. Right. I do it with great bravado, audience goes crazy. I go home, my wife would say, darling that was so bad. What was bad. What you said today . What did i say . The American Dream is dead. Cut on one of the major networks. We covered a lot more ground than that. You will see in a moment. There is plenty to talk about. Joining us, cnn political commentator, paul begala. Also, former Reagan White House political director, jeffrey lord, currently contributing editor at American Spectator and anna navaro supports jeb bush and good friend with marco rubio. You heard donald trump, not backing down. Not easing off any of his positions. Maybe his tone would change if he were elected president. He says. For now he is headed to the u. S. Mexican Border tomorrow and no doubt will get a ton of attention there. What do you make of what you heard tonight . You know its striking me that he is sounding incredibly repetitive. Once you take out the part about him being rich. About him being loved. About him getting great ovations. About him, him, him, him, him, there is very little meat there when it come to policy. There is little substance to the thing he said. I think people are venting through the polls. I will fell you a story, anderson. In 2012, i got a poll call. I was mad with mitt romney. Mad with barack obama. I was mad with everybody. I told the pollster i was going to vote for Roseanne Barr who was for some reason on the florida ballot. Venting through the polls. I think people are angry with dysfunction in washington. I think theyre frustrated. I think theyre worried about the state of the country. I think theyre venting through these polls with donald trump. Ive dont think it is going to last. The man has no beef. Jeffrey, what about that . Later in the interview. You will see it tonight. We are, we are two hours tonight. Because there is so much from the interview. I try to get him to talk about specifics. Specifically about, veterans, use, specifically about the what we could do against isis, and some of the criticisms of what he said about that. Do you believe there is meat on, on what he is, what he is arguing . Do you believe he does know policy issues . Sure. One of the problems here which is why all of this is sort of surprising in the sense that there is this much attention. This is july, 2015. We have months and months to go before we get to iowa. And new hampshire. All president ial campaigns evolve. I dont have off to tell paul this. I mean, they eventually, youre burdened down with briefings, and et cetera. This to be again candid about Ronald Reagan. This was said about Ronald Reagan. He didnt have specifics, details. That frankly went on when he was president. So i dont really see anything startling here. Paul, donald trump did not like when i referenced the swing state poll unFavorability Ratings which i should point out Hillary Clinton did not do well in at all. They both have pretty big unfavorables in, in that poll. The only scenario where someone is favorables outweigh favorables, is jeb bush in virginia. Not like he is a loan with the problems. The numbers, how difficult is it for clinton and for trump to turn around those unfavorables. Theyre almost 2 1. Not very. Not very difficult. Not very difficult. Heres why. We are all most 500 days away from the election. None of the candidates have had the time to spell out in detal what they want to do. I noticed in the interview. He has a message. Core message. World view. Core message is i am going to make America Great again. He need to fill in. I hope for his sake he does. Same thing with hillary. Gave a major speech on economy. She said this, the most important thing for me as president is to increase incomes for the middleclass. Period. Most important thing. She will flesh that out with the minimum wage, equal pay for women, earned paid leif for working folks. But thats the kind of stuff that can come later. This fundamental character. I was struck, you seem to catch him unaware, which is really rare for mr. Trump. He has an answer for everything. When you asked him was it president ial . He shouldnt have said he will change his tone. Hes not going to. Didnt change his hair style from 1975 he will not change his nature. The voters for him they dont want him to change his nature. He is not moving up in the polls despite his incendiary comments. He is leading the polls because of them. He is what republicans want. Anna, do you think as president , a he would change his tone . To pauls point would that actually upset a lot of people who support him now. I am begging republican brethren, if they need further proof of how destructive donald trump is all they have to do is listen to paul begala, pretending he is a legitimate candidate and pumping him up. He is not what republicans want. Hes what paul begala and democrats want. Leading republican polls . I told you. A lot is because he is tapping into very legitimate frustration that people have out there. He took after you like you were a republican candidate. Sure hope he doesnt have your cell phone number. We will have to change numbers soon. That would be okay. Mr. Lord, referring to Ronald Reagan in compares on to trump which i think frankly is a sacrilege, a republican because of the way reagan reached out, broadening the tent. Also, lets remember, what was Ronald Reagans 11th commandment, you shall not speak ill of another republican. Anna jeffrey is saying is accurate though. I remember, i was in college during the reagan years. People were attacking Ronald Reagan. He is an actor. He doesnt know policy. He is totally incompetent. You know there is a lot of people. He was the governor of the you shall not speak ill of another republican. What jeffrey is saying is accurate though i remember i was in college during the reagan years. People were attacking Ronald Reagan. Oh, hes an actor. He doesnt know policy. Hes totally incompetent. You know theres a lot of people who believe he was the governor of the largest state in the country. But you know people who say that though . And you make people believe that donald has this huge company. Well hes got a lot of self contract. Its not his fault. Its the sub contract. Heres the bottom line. Donald trump is a fraud. The Republican Party is full of people to eric ericsons point, do you think he hurt himself . I think we all need to lighten up a little bit. But in terms of the some of the things were talking about, you talk to him about lobbyist, for interest. There is jeb bush coming out at some sort of lobbying reform policy thats got all kinds of holes in it that make no sense. Would be terribly ineffective. This is july and back in january, there he is sweeping through washington, d. C. Like a vacuum cleaner. And then he wants them to raise 50,000 each for them. He has no intention of forming lobby. Thats the difference here. Coming up next what sets him apart from he believes his opponents . You asked me a question i give you an answer. Its very simple. Im a very smart person. I went to the best schools, im a very smart person. 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You ask me a question, i give you an answer. Its very simple. Im a very smart person. I went to the best schools. Let me just get this. You asked me a question i give you an answer. I dont need polsters like bush and all of these other people. They dont answer a question. Im much richer than almost anybody. I can have thousands of polsters. I dont have any. I dont want to waste the money. Had a long history of bouncing his network from the very lows to the very highs. I did some reporting to try to pin that down. Hes always all over the match. S it always been like that with you . Its always like that. Hes an amazing self promoter. Is his business a lot different than people realize . Completely different. And i think, you know the media, thus far, has been kpli sent in this sort of helium loft that hes enjoying. The reality is hes not the biggest Real Estate Developer in manhattan. There are people like jerry spire who donald is not even in that class. He says he pulled out of at lantic city at just the right time. For heavens sakes. I think we need off to lighten sew so if his name is on a building it doesnt necessarily means he owns it. Jeffrey, a lot of people like the donald trump is so wealthy. I dont know if its an aspirational thing i dont know if it means they believe, you know, hes above special interests. They like the fact its a combination. Go ahead. I think its eess combination of the two. When he talks about the American Dream or making american rich again. The oldest story in america is about how parents want to build a better world so that their children can do better than they do. Thats very aspirational. Donald trump has done a lot better than his father did. And his father did a lot better than his father who was a german immigrant. I think he really touches a nerve with this. I any they see themselves. Brett trump was an awe thentic entrepreneur. He built a substantial body of Real Estate Holdings in new york which donald inherted. That money kept donald aloft. I would really take issue with the idea the difference the difference tim, i think, is my family comes from new york. And theres a hujt difference between doing real e state in brooklyn and queens. We can go on down the line. Were comparing him to his father. What im saying what hes done in manhattan doesnt compare to what hes done to his father in queens. Where do you see this going . There are a lot of people saying hes not going to want to release his financials. He did. Hes entered the race. Do you believe hes in this to win it . Do you believe hes in this for as long as he can . I believe hes in this because the reason hes in it, he loves the intention. And i think he has no intention of leaving. I think the media is waiting for him to find an offramp and leave the Iowa Caucuses in january. He has a very small operation in iowa. He doesnt need delegates. He wants to stand in the spot light. You believe hes in this to win . Yes, i do. Yes, i do. I mean, why go through this. The the notion that i mean, hes famous. Hes internationally famous. In his case he doesnt have to be president to be anymore famous. Thats precisely the point. Hes in it because he enjoys the atengsz. Hes done it twice before. This has brought him a level of attention globally that he probably has not had before. Theres a level of interest in him. By the way, were going to have more on trump in our next hour. A lot more of that interview. Breaking news in the newlyreleased document reveals that she tried to kill herself last year the Holding Facility the jail she was sent to knew that because she told them. Theres new out rage over the traffic stop that landed her in jail where she died three days later. The officer now under investigation. More on that ahead. If you have moderate to severe Rheumatoid Arthritis like me. 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Breaking news tonight in the sandra bland case. Ms. Bland told jail officials as she was being booked she previously tried to kill herself. She was found dead in her cell. Authorities say she hang herself. The District Attorney is treating her death as a murder investigation. In my interview, i asked him about that stop. I cant be expected to look at everything but pulled over for allegedly changing signals. A lot of people very up set with that. Do you believe that theres a problem with that . I hope not, but i will tell you, i saw that clip. It was a traffic signal as i saw it. He just looked very aggressive. Ns a lot . I hope not. They like me, i like them. The answer is it possibly does. It shouldnt. And its very sad if the case is. I will say, in this case, n young with late detailed. Official documents show that when sandra arrived at the jail she previously tried committing suicide. The county sheriff glen smith says the investigation shows no foul play and that all the evidence points to bland taking her own life. Is absolutely no doubt in my mind now. If ive stated i eagerly want the f. B. I. Monitoring the investigation. I want the District Attorney to stay independent. December piet the sheriffs public statements the family detests the claim that bland was depressed. I can take issue with the notion that she was suffering from depression. She was never clinically diagnosed. E. I am suffering with a little bit of depression as well as ptsd. She says im struggling with some things, but i am anchored in god. I want you to know no matter what you look like no matter what part of life you come from i come to say were dealing with an issue which, you may have to me, which is just courageous. Adding more fuel to the pointed questions. The family says the force used was excessive. Especially for being charged with an improper lane change. I simply feel like the officer was picking on her. Sandra bland was arrested for assault on a public servant. The troocher writes bland was investigators say they are still trying to gain access to Sandra Blands cell phone that may have captured parts of the arrest. I said that the video was three minutes shorter once the glitches were faster out. Why was it short if there was questions of dwlichs in the first video. What were told is the video was actuallily looping. That three minutes was dissill pated from that time because of the way they fixed the timeline on the video. I appreciate the reporting on the continuing of this story. Just ahead, were going to dig deeper on the breaking news in the sandra bland case. Steps that should have been taken after jail officials learned shed atempbted suicide in the past. Well deal with the way the arresting officer handled that routine traffic stop. No fifth graders ever sat at the cool table. 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Im just at a loss for words. Just call me back when you can. So the arrest was just released jail intake domt. Evidence that she tried to kill herself in the past. Ms. Blaines death during a routine traffic stop in texas is being treated as a murder investigation. Authorities say that she hanged hergs. There was a massive amown of marijuana and also evidence of cutting, selflation mutilation on her arms. The idea that she had marijuana in her system how how long does that stay in the system . It really doesnt. Its a red herring. I think we shouldnt focus our attention on that. Although if she is having psychological issues and not taking any medication the fact that she was hurting herself, cutting herself, is another indication that she was heading in the direction of suicide. Cutting is not suicidal but it means that the person is hurting ones self. Ed cell alone. She certainly shouldnt have been in a cell that had a trash bag liner or anything ha show could have used to do harm to herself. I think that theres just so much liability to me here. Theres really no grounds for an arrest for this woman. And then she ends up three days later, dead. The officer told her she was under arrest before any assault occurred. The assault didnt happen until after she was handcuffed. Im looking at this and i just see the assault. Where is the summons hoe was annoyed from very early on. She basically said im in my car, i can smoke. That seemed to be the final straw. That definitely appear that is way. In other words, was the ceiling at a certain level where she could stand on a kot and reach up there and put the plastic bag over this par tix . Mooegs of those people are male caucasians. Shes 28 a female in black, somewhat different than what one would expected. But she showed a lot of signs that she was suicidal. Nothing should have been in that cell. You have to keep coming back to the altercation she wanted to get out of the way. The officer in this case is the professional. He should be trained in deescalation. He could not lawfully detaen her. He day notid not have the right to do that. Yes, he does. Why do you believe he had the right to do that . Because once youre stopped, an officer can articulate the fact that i got her out of the vehicle because maybe for my own safety. Ng her too get out of the car. Aun lawful. Weve got to continue this. Well have more on this in our next hour. Thank you very much. Coming up another live hour of 360. More of my interview with donald trump including what he told me about the trip tomorrow and what he has to say about john mccains record on veterans. I want to try to pin down donald trump on whether he specifically has the answers. X. It relieves bloating in minutes. Plus that uncomfortable pressure. No wonder its the 1 gas relief brand. [music] defiance is in our bones. 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