Sources are telling us that the department doesnt plan any investigations and u. S. Law enforcement sources say if another country files arrest for u. S. Official, the Justice Department would not enforce it. In a Statement Released today, as we have in the past in the event of action by a Foreign Court or prosecuting authority against the u. S. Government officials, the u. S. Department and state would raise appropriate jurisdictional and other legal defenses to prevent unwarranted prosecution of u. S. Officials. So making it pretty clear there, anderson, they dont plan to pursue anything. So whats their justification for not prosecuting . What are they saying . Right, because we know torture by u. S. Officials is illegal and Justice Department sources are saying the shared sentiment in the department is what happened is morally wrong and if something happened today, there could be criminal charges brought but because of course the changes president obama made, because of the legal memos made during the bush administration, the u. S. Attorney has his hands tied legally. Remember, the Justice Department opened an inquiry and Nothing Happened of that. Prosecutors looked at legal options. I think we forget that sometimes they looked at this. All right, pam brown. Thanks. Thank you. Former Vice President dick cheney with the opinion on cia techniques on fox news, said, quote, the report is full of crap. He admitted he hadnt read it but seen summaries, the executive summary and has no regrets about the tactics used in 9 11 and do it again in a minute. The report concludes the cia misled president bush about the interrogation, something cheney also denies. As you may remember time and again over the years, former president bush and cheney, heads of the cia, denied the cia was torturing people and enhanced interrogation techniques effective but the report said its not true. Take a look. I told our people, get information without torture and was assured by our Justice Department that we were not torturing. We dont torture people. Whatever we have done is legal. The use of these techniques against these terrorists made us safer. We dont torture people. Weve acted on information theyve given us to prevent attacks. We dont torture. We do not talk about techniques and we do not torture people. Do you think it went too far . I dont. Let me say that again, we dont torture people. Joining me, two former cia officers on the phone with satellite dish. Author of jaw breaker. I know you cant go into details, but what do you say to those . The terrorists want to do america harm. They dont play any rule book so why should america take anything off the table . Yeah, well, you dont define yourself by the practices and objectives of the enemy. The enemy is apaling and i dedicated to stopping these people. Theyre terrible. Theres no debate about that. The issue is, who are we and what do we need to be . Torture doesnt work. Its illegal to all of our laws. I could cite the whole program with them and its clear what happens. The statements you just played are disingenuous. You dont talk to the wolf about whats going wrong in the chickchick chicken coop. Thats obvious. We have methods to affirm our values. Gary bernsten, do you think torture works . Does force and coercion work . I believe it does work and ive seen Foreign Intelligence Services around the world coerce people and break down spy networks weve created. Ive seen it. Should we be using it . Thats a separate issue. But i do believe it work does. It doesnt work on everybody or in every case. This report goes through multiple cases that the cia has said or examples where it provid provided, they discount basically every single one of those cases saying, the information was gotten prior to the suspect being tortured and in many cases, torture ended up getting misleading information. This is sort of, let me say this, its a narrow window and these are a number of cases that the agency had a program for a short period of time and im not disputing and let me just say this. I dont know how good the report is. Did they interview the people involved in this . I do not believe they did. Did they interview the chiefs station . I dont believe they did. When i read this, every page, paragraph and sentence is an assault on the agency. This is the biggest hit job on the agency since phillip a. G. Wrote inside the company. Did they make mistakes . Yes. But as i read the document, im horrified and the United States, the cia make some mistakes . Yes, i agree made mistakes but the reality is that interrogation in the course of history, it does work, a. B, the separate question, should we be doing it . In my particular belief is we the United States should only employ enhanced techniques if we believe we have an imminent possibility for catastrophic attack on the United States, were talking about a bioweapon, chemical weapons, nuclear weapon. In these cases possibly. Thats the example, glen, thats often used. An imminent attack. It seems to indicate theres no examples of this thwarting an imminent attack and dozens, i think 26 people, were actually innocent. Mistaken identities. These techniques were used on those people who were clearly deemed later on to be not guilty of anything, so i want to be able to respond to gary. I think gary and i agree on one thing. The saying, where does a fish rot . From the headfir first. Were the executive actor in the executive branch following the guidance by the political hack by the administration. There were 20 cases i knew about and colleagues knew about in the agency at the time that were touted as triumphs on the war in terror which resulted from enhanced interrogation. All 20 were known and ive been shown by the documents, hundreds of millions of words worth of reality reporting and debate by colleagues of gary and mine at the time to be basically made and not having either been true plots or dependent on the information. Glen when gary says, looking, this is a political hit piece and partisan, they didnt interview directors of the cia. Youre saying what they did do is comb through thousands, tens of thousands of pages, hundreds of thousands of pages of realtime actionable reports from cia officers in the field. Absolutely. When i was working, all of these issues, all of these cases were playing out in a realtime and they were heatedly debated. It was strongly felt by many in the agency the information obtained under duress from enhanced interrogation from torture was spurious, couldnt be relied on and in fact, all those were formerly recalled. Thats a big deal in the intelligence community. You want to expunge it from the record as unreliable. Thats what the record is the case. Gary, its interesting. All along, there was testimony from cia officials, public testimonies saying, look. The folks doing these techniques whether you call them torture or enhanced interrogation techniques, theyre carefully vetted and theyre experts. This is done the most humane way possible and a controlled environment, the way it sounds in reading this senate report, it certainly doesnt sound like that. You had psychologists who had no training whatsoever in this, had no language skills, no Real Intelligence backgrounds. Being paid tens of millions of dollars to design programs 81 million. 81 million for contractors fulfilling that didnt have experience. Let me step in for a second to say this. First off, theres the insinuation that it was inappropriate because youre seeing contractors. Im saying inexperienced people. Just hold on. The other thing, they should have had a psychologist there. Actually, the people they had were sere instructors. If i had to choose a professor from the university or sere, id choose a sere. They had programs to reverse the sere thing and cia officers saying these guys dont know what theyre doing. Anderson, there were people that did interrogations that spent a career in the u. S. Military. 20 years as interrogators and i dont think thats included in the report and they had native language skills. Thats not included in the report. I know that for a fact. Glen, when you were working at this black side and you say what you can say, you raised objections to what you were seeing. What were you told . Well, when i was brought into this, it was quite typical. Im a career intelligence officer. In more than a week, had to jep son and mitchell, the two sharl tons never done intelligence work, didnt know anything about interrogation and fobbed off the cia. Somehow believed sere torture tactics were a waste. Completely the opposite of what they were intended to do. I was told youll do whatever it takes to get him to talk. And i had no training nor did most others. I figured it out. It was a good job. And thats how it played out. The agency hued to the lines by these frauds and we were misled to use what were north korean torture tactics as supposely interrogation tactics. That was inmasane and others fe the same. Thank you. Im glad we got both perspectives on this. Reminder, watch dvr, set 360 to whenever you like. 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Reporter this is former Security Guard taking a smoking break outside of the private Security Company where he works in suburban phoenix. 5. 5 years ago, he was armed and licensed to carry by arizonas department of Public Safety. That turned out to be a dangerous breakdown in the system. An investigation by cnn and the center for investigative reporting found licensing requirements so varied and in some states, so lax, it can be harder to become a manicurist than an Armed Security guard. I woke up and i had tubes running down my throat. Reporter daniel chouraingo paralyzed after being shot at and nearly killed over stolen food. It was joshua kosashanko who should never have been allowed to carry a gun. Hey, drew griffin with cnn. Weve been trying to get in touch with you. Were doing a story on Security Guards. How do you become an Armed Security guard . How is that possible . Id rather not comment, sir. Reporter do you think you should be placed in a position where i think youre training Security Guards now . No comment. Reporter it was shortly before 2 00 in the morning at this Convenience Store in tucson. Tarango was 13 years old and kosashanko the Security Guard. We were going to get food, leave, not a big deal. Reporter he waited in his car after his friends went to steal food and the next moments, the Security Guard gave chase, a scuffle broke out. His friends ran. Threw the car in reverse. Kasachanko opened fire. I seen the glass shatter and felt like a slight push, somebody had pushed me over. Reporter tarango admits he should have never been there. It turns out kosashanko should not have been working there either. He had a criminal record as a juvenile and several runins with the juvenile system. 13, he pled guilty to two counts of felony assault and deemed a felon at a juvenile delinquent and made him a prohibited possessor. He lost his right to bear arms, at least until he turned 30. Even with all that information, we discovered the Arizona Department of Public Safety never checked his record. Captain steve entaman. This guys juvenile records apparently werent checked. Where was the breakdown . Arizona does not require juvenile records to be reported on this particular instance, it was in the adjudicated record as opposed to conviction. It did not show a record whatsoever. The check could have gone beyond that. You could have looked beyond the juvenile records. If he disclosed he had that in his background. As long as he lies on his application, he basically hides his entire juvenile record . In this particular case, yes. Reporter the state didnt need the record. Since hes a pribted possessor banned from carrying a gun, that information would have shown up in a federal Law Enforcement database, but arizona didnt check it. The state of arizona may be a poster child for whats wrong with the nations lack of regulation for the Armed Security guard industry. Kasachankos armed guard training was 16 hours, four of which took place at a gun range. Arizona is one of 27 states that doesnt check if someone applying to become an armed guard is prohibited from possessing a gun. The company that hired joshua kosachanko refuszed as did he himself. Can you leave the building . Reporter but in a court deposition, he explained he was fully justified in shooting the fleeing shoplifters because his job was to stop them. So did you think it was smart to chase after them into the parking lot . I wouldnt necessarily say it was smart or not smart. I would say that its a danger associated with the job. The job is to arrest snack food shoppers. Shoplifters for anything period. Reporter steve amatay is a lobbyist for the National Association of Security Companies. We met up with him at the industrys annual Convention Earlier this year. He continues to push for fbi background checks for anyone who wants to be an armed guard. In nine states, even an fbi background check is not required. The public lay book to Security Officers in situations, we want to make sure this guy is properly vetted and not a problem himself. Reporter thats not going to be easy. The last four years, theres been no fewer than a dozen bills introduced in state legislatures and congress trying to control and license regulate who can be a Security Guard. Of those, most have failed. Get down on the ground. Reporter even after the shooting of daniel tarango. Arizona did little to change licensing requirements. There is this additional box which relies on applicants to disclose or check if they are a prohibited possessor. Legally barred from owning a gun. But arizona still doesnt check that federal database when someone applies to be an armed guard. If theyre not truthful with us, we cant control it. Reporter as for joshua, he was arrested for attempted murder but ultimately, only indicted and convicted for violating the law that banned him for possessing a gun. He served probation. He works according to his linked in page, a corporate trainer and hire manager for the same security he shot and nearly killed daniel tarango. No comment. Reporter no comment at all . Drew griffin joins me now. Whats next in terms of making these states . I think the problem, anderson, is the industry itself. They want to keep the pay low. These jobs are very low pay jobs and result, you have little or no skilled people in these jobs. Until, because regulation failed, until you have businesses who hire Security Companies to guard them, in this case, a Convenience Store, demanding more, then i dont think there will be a change. Theres certainly good Security Guards out there. Hundreds of thousands of them in this country. Cnn has them and i have great faith in the folks i have seen. And the very good ones, the good companies, they will pay for training, pay for skills, they will update their guards. They will make sure that every one of their guards does not have a criminal background but its the matter pretty incredible. The lack of checking by both the company and by arizona itself. A quick followup on a story we got from last night, about the Security Guard who shot and killed a man outside of a nightcl nightclub. The Security Company he worked for is sued in another case resulting in death and the second case, the company is being sued for not protecting the business, anderson. The guard was not directly involved in the killing itself. Well keep you updated on that. Thank you very much. Appreciate the reporting. If youve got a comment on this story or idea for investigative unit, email cnn. Com investigations. Go jorge with the way hes handled interrogation. That is not true. 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Release, talked to obama. 17 governors filed a lawsuit trying to block president obamas executive order on immigration and contends he doesnt have the authority to yun latunilatera unilaterally. He asked why he didnt exercise the option sooner. As you say, you have the Legal Authority to stop deportations. For six years you did that, many families were deporting. You called me deporting, but let me say this, jorge. You could have stopped. No, no, no. That is not true. Listen. Heres the fact of the matter. You could have stopped them. Jorge, heres the fact of the matter. As president of the United States, im always responsible for problems that arent solved right away. I regret millions of people who didnt get Health Insurance before i passed Health Insurance and before i implemented. I regret the fact theres kids who should have been going to college to my presidency but because we didnt get to them fast enough, they gave up on college. The question is, are we doing the right thing and have we consistently tried to move this country in a better direction . Jorge ramos joining me now. He disagrees with your deportation and in a way he and democrats get credit in the Latino Community in doing the right thing but theres this tension among latinos who both appreciate what hes done but dont think hes moved fast enough. I agree completely. Let me say that on the Latino Community, 80 are supportive of president obama, completely what he did with executive action but on the other hand, theres a lot of resentment and disagreement with president barack obama. He didnt deliver on electoral promise with both chambers of congress but deported more than 2 Million Immigrants and destroyed thousands of families and if hes saying because of politics, the political process and that he couldnt do anything about it, of course its debatable if he has the authority or not to go ahead with this executive decision but if he says he has the authority, why he didnt just do it before . He waited six years to do this. Clearly, again, latinos are very grateful but this is a point of resentment. No question about it. Its interesting because youve done interviews with him in the past and in the past, he always said hes not the emperor. He couldnt just make this executive order and rule on this. But clearly, that he changed his mind on that. Hes never really given you an answer on what changed. Why, whether he was wrong in the past when he said he couldnt do it or whether hes wrong now. So i guess that there are a couple of ways of trying to explain this. He said he was not a king or emperor and he didnt have the Legal Authority to stop deportations and now we see the president s opinion has evolved or completely changed his mind. He didnt disagragree with my o interpretation. But at the end, decided to go ahead and benefit more than 4 million or 5 million undocumented immigrants, either evolved or changed his mind and acted. Thats why latinos are grateful for that. From my perspective, he did change his mind. Maybe because of the pressure from journalists, the Latino Community, from members of Congress Like gutierrez. I dont know why, but at the end, the pressure from the community, the Latino Community was felt and he acted and thats important. I want to play another portion of the interview with the president. Well talk about it. Lets listen. And those like you sometimes, jorge, simple quick answers to these problems. No, yes you do. Thats how you present it. When you present it in that way, it does a disservice because it makes the assumption that the political process is one that can easily be moved around depending on the will of one person and thats not how things work. Is there something to that, the way Immigration Reform and doesnt acknowledge how difficult the process it is. The president seems to say it doesnt. It is very difficult. However, one person, the president of the United States, he is changing the lives of almost 5 million people. In other words, its important what he thinks and important what hes doing. And i do agree it is unfortune we are concentrating on president barack obama when we should concentrate on republicans. Speakers john boehner and republicans. Its john boehner who blocked Immigration Reform in the house. It is really unfortunate were not concentrating on what republicans didnt want to do instead of the disagreements that there are and there are a couple of them between president barack obama and the Latino Community. It is a complicated issue but the president acted alone at the end and thats what many latinos expected from the president. Jorge ramos, fascinating interview. Thank you very much. Just ahead tonight, a teenage girl found on fire alive outside of her burning car. What did she whisper and how will the last word help solve her murder . Right strip and pow, it opens your nose up to 38 more. So you can breathe and do the one thing you want to do, sleep. Add breathe right to your Cold Medicine shut your mouth and sleep right. Breathe right. And look for the calming scent of new breathe right lavender, in the sleep aisle. A wakeup call. But its not happening out there. Its happening in here. [ sirens wailing ] inside of you. 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Reporter 19yearold Jessica Chambers, wellliked, outgoing high school cheerleader, doused with a flammable liquid and set on fire. She would die the next day due to burns covering nearly every inch of her body but it gets even worse. According to what the family said doctors told them. They said they squirted fluid up her throat and up her nose because burning on the insides so bad. Reporter incredibly, despite her suffering, whispered to firefighters. Many believe it was the name of her attacker. I cant disclose the information at this time. Reporter only tell me what the teen said is a lead. In this small town, the big question is who could have done it . Certainly, were looking at murder charges, capital murder charges. Reporter the authorities have been retracing where chambers went that night. She stopped at a local gas station where police say she bought a drink and chatted with a few people. Everyone she spoke with has been clear. Investigators believe a text or last call could be key. Especially if it links to her last whispered words. In this part of mississippi, they believe justice can be here or the hereafter. Gods punishment. Its going to be far more worse than anything we could do. Poor family. Martin joins me now. I understand theyre just getting access to this young womans phone, correct . Reporter yes, the phone could be key to finding who this killer is. It required a couple of things. First, you need the legal warrants to gain access to someones information like that and two, they needed, physically, to have the password, the pass code. Just been told by the authorities they achieved all of that today, able to get into the phone and first thing tomorrow, theyre following up on the leads it generates. Somebody has the information out there. Hopefully the police finds them. Martin savidge. More tonight. Susan hendricks. The fate of a 1. 1 trillion spending bill. Must pass it by midnight to keep government running but some democrats blast addones with a proposal to ease banking regulations in the dodd frank law. Nfl commissioner Roger Goodell with a new policy for team owners with an extensive list of prohibited conduct and minimum six game suspension for domestic violence. Released from a sharlt hospital. Thats him after he suffered two fractures in his back near the stadium. Police say it appears cam newton was not at fault. Flipped over several times. And malala was shot in the head by the taliban two years ago. That did not stop her. She shares the award with satyarthi, who spoke about education and the millions of children deprived. Remarkable people. Both of them. Susan, thank you. Up next, a 67yearold fisherman missing since thanksgiving amazingly found alive. Details ahead. Dentures with toothpaste or plain water. And even though their dentures look clean, in reality theyre not. 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An suv ramming into a parked car. I couldnt stop the car. It was so icy. Reporter all this bad weather having a Ripple Effect on air travel more than a thousand flights cancelled and what happened on the east coast could pale in comparison to the west coast. Bay area communities gear up for flooding, a winter storm expected to hit the region tonight. It could be the worst storm weve had here in five years. Public schools already closed in advance. Wor worrisome, yes. The moisture is also a welcome relief for a state in the middle of a record drought. Definitely need the rain, so im glad its coming. Of course, we dont want our house to flood. Reporter dan simon, cnn, san francisco. Rough weather off the coast of hawaii nearly cost the 77yearold fisherman his life. He was lost for sea for 12 days when it damaged his sailboat. The beginning of an ordeal sounding from a hollywood movie. Given up on finding him. Sarah with more on the rescue. Reporter rescuers thought he died at sea but fisherman ron ingraham is alive and well enough to crack jokes. I was out of water by hydrated on fish. I caught fish and thats what wasnt as good as the sushi bar but thats how i hydrated. Reporter a true fishermans tale that could have ended in disaster. He made this call for help on thanksgiving day as his 25 foot sailboat. May day, may day. Im in the middle of the channel. I tried all night. Weather up, i couldnt make it. Reporter after four days, the coast guard called off the search for the boat. They simply couldnt find it. Thats when ingraham told him his dad was missing. I was crushed, like, anybody would normally feel after they feel their dad is probably gone. Reporter miraculously after 12 days at sea, a navy ship found the 67 yeeryearold and boat after the coast guard heard a short may day call from ingraham and his son received yet another call from the coast guard. They said, we found your dad. I had this image of somebody floating with a life vest around him that wasnt alive. I says, okay, you know, was he with his fishing boat when you found him . They says, no, we found him and his boat and hes alive and hes well. So yeah, it was awesome. Reporter found dehydrated and desperate for food, ingraham refused to leave without his boat. He not only used his boat to make a living but its also his home, so the coast guard towed it back to shore. Ingraham gets his battered boat and zakary gets his dad. I had a nice long skype chat with his dad. They hadnt spoke for years and hoped it would not be the final time to meet him when they got the call from the coast guard. Theyre happy to hear hes alive and a lesson to stay in touch with family members because you never know when you might lose them. Should have said alive right away. Anyway, about the toughness of his dad. Said rambo has a picture of my dad on his wall. Im sure thats true. Itive edge. 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Brace yourselves. I hope you can handle this. She was served macadamia nuts in a bag instead of on a plate. Im serious. Macadamia nuts on a bag instead of a plate. I can keep repeating but it will not sound any less insane. Her reaction to this, miss cho forced the plane to return to the gate where she had the head of the cabin crew kicked off. Lets pause a second and break this down. Before you start yelling at me on twitter, i dont know anything about air travel, remind you this week, i was the third biggest celebrity on a flight from washington to new york after Prince William and that monkey who looks like larry king. I love that monkey. Anyway, sadly the monkey actually wasnt on the flight or larry king. Id like to see him. Anyway, i digress. I know a thing or two about proper cabin etiquette. Adjust your nuts with more comfortable on how its presented. I know what its like, miss