what they knew and when they knew it. >> bottom line, congressman. if other witnesses like say mark meadows or dan scavino or kash patel end up defying their subpoenas, would you support a criminal content for referral for them as well? >> we'll see. that's one of the arguments a number of us used to vote this past week because they, nin fac, are communicating. i wouldn't say complying, but they're at least negotiating. they're discussing. they're talking with the committee and the committee didn't feel like they needed to issue a criminal subpoena even though i think they were issued all on the same day, but in fact, they're cooperating and that, to me, is a good thing. >> what if they subpoena the former president, donald trump? >> we'll see where all this takes us. i think you've got to do one step at a time. let's see what evidence comes in. what evidence they have to share with members that are not on the select committee.