devoted to having the perfectly chiseled, ultra muscled upper body, at the same time that arnold schwarzenegger who, of course, had been a bodybuilder suddenly became an unlikely action star in the '80s, too. >> i don't know if prior to 1980 anyone would have had a firm visual image of what their favorite actor looked like with their shirt off. can you close your eyes and imagine jimmy stewart or montgomery clift or even john wayne without their shirt on? it's not essential to their image as actors. >> it would be ridiculous for me to play outside of that role. and it would be crazy for dustin hoffman to try to be commando or to be conan or terminator or to be rambo. it doesn't work, you know? people only accept you for certain things. >> there was a lot of ideas of returning to traditional notions of masculinity after the sensitive '70s. but these thing goes in cycles. and i think that by the late '80s we were ready for an action