and keep in mind, i want to acknowledge there are other senators, sinema among them, who expressed reservations along the way. paint me a picture. give me an idea where there's overlap here and interest. >> well, let's start with conversation versus condemnation. yes, there are elements of it that he is not thrilled with. and look, we have to inject some pragmatism into the circumstance. we have a system of government that makes this tedious. it's designed to make change difficult. boy, we are witnessing that right now. so let's recognize what we need. we need him. plain and simple. we need his vote. so all those who are throwing fire at him do so at our collective peril. so we have to sit down in january, you know, clear our heads and hearts a little bit. there is a path forward. i have faith that we will get this done, and i would ask that the white house and fellow democrats who are disa disappointed -- i'm among them, by the way, jim, terribly