control room to pull you have a live shot of the house floor. this is happening. we re about halfway through the alphabet. you see the shot of former house speaker, nancy pelosi. 14 members so far. 15 members so far have chosen somebody other than mccarthy. the vote is not final. the vote is not gavelled, however, if this holds, he will not be speaker for time number two. ali, what happens for time number three? what s the next card to play? that s the next question especially as you have members like chip roy of texas vowing he will still continue to hold mccarthy to a count on a whole list of concessions that he s been trying to get the leader to make over the course of the last few weeks and months. they have made inroads here. these members like roy. who chairs those committees and has prioritized for them, but especially to this idea of the motion to vacate. it s a move that would weaken the speaker and make it easier to oust members. mccarthy holding to a compromise i
committee? let s get that person talking to the right person. let s figure out it s an information gathering session as much anything. it s used to identify what someone s looking for. what s in play for them. and then maybe you can bring mccarthy in and have that conversation with him. what s challenging is they didn t know who was going to vote no and there s not one unified thing they re asking for. who s a hard no? who s in play? bring a trusted person to talk to them about it. not just your leadership staff. i m sure there s some leadership staff working on it, too, but mccarthy has a lot of allies and they re using their relationships across the conference to get as much information as they can, bring it back to a central place and figure out what kind of deals with they make. it s very fluid. it s layered. what s a kevin mccarthy conversation versus a staff conversation and it goes on and
and keep in mind, i want to acknowledge there are other senators, sinema among them, who expressed reservations along the way. paint me a picture. give me an idea where there s overlap here and interest. well, let s start with conversation versus condemnation. yes, there are elements of it that he is not thrilled with. and look, we have to inject some pragmatism into the circumstance. we have a system of government that makes this tedious. it s designed to make change difficult. boy, we are witnessing that right now. so let s recognize what we need. we need him. plain and simple. we need his vote. so all those who are throwing fire at him do so at our collective peril. so we have to sit down in january, you know, clear our heads and hearts a little bit. there is a path forward. i have faith that we will get this done, and i would ask that the white house and fellow democrats who are disa disappointed i m among them, by the way, jim, terribly