ukraine operator testified that they faced a choice either work with giuliani or abandon the goal of a white house meeting. what choice did they make, mr. goldman? >> they decided to work with mr. giuliani. >> right. and six days later, on may 29th, president trump sent the new ukrainian president a letter that said, america stood with ukraine and invited president zelensky to visit the white house, isn't that correct? >> that's the second time he invited him to the white house. >> at this point the ukrainian president expected that meeting. >> correct. >> they learn they have to do something more for the president. >> sondland testified there was a prerequisite of investigations, isn't that right? >> yes. >> and nsc staffer, lieutenant colonel vindman testified that sondland told the ukrainians in a july 10th meeting that investigation of the bidens was a deliverable, necessary to get that meeting, isn't that right?