With the findings in the horowitz report. Horrow its seems to be giving the fbi that part of the investigation saying its a clean bill. They had enough reason to do this investigation. Everybody who was interviewed cements to indicate they did not open an investigation. Evan perez, thank you so much. Joining our panel now, we have with us jim bakker. You are not singled out the report makes clear the fbi failed when it came to the administering the fisa warrants, too much was left out or not presented to the court. Do you accept what the Inspector General is saying . I am there are two big groups of conclusions, one is, it was not a politically motivated
investigation and it was properly predicated with us goingforward with that investigation. It was malpractice for us not to open this investigation. All of the statements that it was a hoax are wrong. The investigation was not a coup or a coup attempt. Having said that, he does point out many mistakes that were made with respect to err
yes. let s move on to ambassador sondland. i only have ten fingers and ten toes, i can t count above 20 but do you know how many times ambassador sondland said that he did not know, he did not recall, had no recollection or had limited memory or failed to remember something in his october 17th testimony? do you know how many times? 325. does that surprise you? 325. a big number. and then he filed a clarifying statement and he clarifies a few things, i guess. but did you have any do you have any contact with ambassador sondland between the time of his deposition and the time of his clarifying statement? no. did the majority? i have no idea. you have no idea. so they may have had influence on his testimony? no idea. and that is evidence of bias. that would be evidence of credibility. that would be evidence that we
ukraine operator testified that they faced a choice either work with giuliani or abandon the goal of a white house meeting. what choice did they make, mr. goldman? they decided to work with mr. giuliani. right. and six days later, on may 29th, president trump sent the new ukrainian president a letter that said, america stood with ukraine and invited president zelensky to visit the white house, isn t that correct? that s the second time he invited him to the white house. at this point the ukrainian president expected that meeting. correct. they learn they have to do something more for the president. sondland testified there was a prerequisite of investigations, isn t that right? yes. and nsc staffer, lieutenant colonel vindman testified that sondland told the ukrainians in a july 10th meeting that investigation of the bidens was a deliverable, necessary to get that meeting, isn t that right?
the guy who said. he said, unless president zelensky announces an investigation into berisma and the bidens there would be no meeting with president trump, there would be no security assistance money going to ukraine. that s what he said. was there an announcement about this? no. did president zelensky get a call from president trump? yes. did president zelensky get a meeting from president trump? yes. did president zelensky get the money? yes. is that right? yes. the guy who said that wasn t going to happen is the guy they built their case around? yes. is that right, mr. sound land? right. they built their case around a lot of hearsay, didn t they? the best example of the hair say, surprisingly enough is ambassador sondland.
and address any specific personnel issues. after giuliani spoke with yermak gave a green light to the july 25th call. on the morning of the call he texted zelensky s yermak and it said quote, heard from white house, assuming president z convinced he will investigate, get to the bottom of what happened in 2016, we ll nail down a investigation and zelensky agrees, isn t that correct. yes. and that text message was relayed from president trump himself. and then after the july 25th call, members of the administration continued to follow up with ukrainian counterparts to prepare for the announcement of investigations. sondland texted volker about efforts to schedule a white