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commentator and host of cnn "smerconish." what do you make of this? the president's personal lawyer is pointing a finger back at the president's administration? >> so rudy giuliani has been portrayed in a lot of this thus far as a rogue agent. in the complaint, the whistle-blower uses the word "circumvention" to describe concerns he was hearing from others about rudy giuliani's role. now giuliani responds and shows these texts. one of which is thanking him for his involvement and comes from someone named volker, our special representative to ukraine. the point giuliani wants us to realize he was very much on the team and acting at the behest of the state department. i look at that and say to myself, okay. mr. volker, one more person whose testimony will probably come out in the wash that we will hear from before this whole process runs its course. >> the reporting out of the volker camp is basically that

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