now we have john kerry and chuck hagel, the defense secretary also. i'm told more will be announced. this is going to be a very, very interesting, important hearing tomorrow. >> let's talk more about the influence that john mccain and lindsey graham might have on other lawmakers. how much influence do they have? a lot of lawmakers are up for re-election in 2014. that's going to enter into their decision, too, right, in a war-weary nation. >> lindsey graham is one of people who is running for re election next year. look, i don't know the answer to how much impact they are going to have on the senate and the house broadly. i think it is fair to say that when you are talking about members of oh their own party who trust their judgment on issues of national security, particularly military issues, there could be a few who might be able to be persuaded by them if they choose to support this. and given the way the voteses are now which is completely up