perpetrator. >> the reaction was palpable. >> it's not going to do any good to take revenge on somebody like this. but treating the narcassism is extremely unlikely. i see people get better in addiction treatment because if they don't, they die. they are very motivated once they breakthrough their denial and nonsense. maybe this will do it. i guess it's because of the legal issues and danny pointed out so vividly, he can't talk because if he says anything about how he's feeling, maybe he wasn't well, maybe drugs were -- he doesn't know anything. it's all allegations, maybe. we don't know anything at this point. we have their reports. >> we're closing in on two dozen witness accounts. >> you have to think of the motivation of someone to come