shortcuts or to do things by half measures. okay. it's not working this way, we'll have to do it all over again -- do it all over again. >> i sent a copy of this book of recipes to a friend of mine. they offered us a contract for a book. so we were delighted. >> then, paul childs, at the time, we didn't have the means we have now, email or anything. so it was all by mail. simca would type recipes, send them to julia. julia would send her own ideas and back and forth. >> it was a tremendous amount of work. it took 12 years to write the book.