listen in. >> what to you are the key indicators of its strength and success? you know, americans look at washington and can't imagine success? >> yeah. >> i deliberately did not look at the stuff we do in day-to-day jurnlism, congress, polarization of parties, et cetera. i mean these kind of pathologies are part of daily life in politics in other countries too. what i looked at two kinds of factors. one was possessions, asset in the banks, or nuclear weapons, projection forces, navies, and then you look at these things and you wonder how could anybody talk about china being a great power when you see a u.s. navy which dwarfs the next 14 navies. when you look at projection force s where the united states has 10, 20 times as many bombers and troop transporters, et cetera. that's the cash in the bank. but then i thought, well, what