>> they're killing people. the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated. and that's -- and they're -- and they're killing people. >> it's a hefty charge. let's take it to the better minds. smerconish and dr. leana wen. author of a new book coming out, "lifelines: a doctor's journey in the fight for public health." good to have you, both. smerc, help me. he creates the vaccine. he said, look, operation warp speed was great. now, he doesn't want anybody to take it. they asked him to do a commercial. he said, what? who is -- republican? what? why? >> he is sacrificing one of the best arguments that he has because, by your own statistics, and anecdotally, i can bear that out because i have watched most of those appearances. he really doesn't assert himself and take full credit, to the extent you would expect. why is that the case? i think, to the extent there's any strategy involved here, and i don't know if there is, he's always been about motivation.