die. we need solutions, not just prohibitions on safe products. >> how did gpeople get off smoking before this? >> nicotine gum, patch, lozenge, cold turkey. from 2003 to 2009, the adult smoking rate stagnated. even through a recession with a cigarette tax hike. >> do you have kids? >> the smoking rate barely went down. no, i do not. >> if you had kids -- >> i don't care if you have kids or not. would you let your kids vape. no, right? >> no, like i wouldn't let them smoke or use marijuana in any form. i would parent them if i had children. that does not mean because some parents are not preventing their youth from -- >> so you don't think everything that i see on social media all the time, i got a 16-year-old, a 13-year-old, and a 9-year-old. they all know what vaping is. they all see it online. they see it running through companies that are marketing them products that go through devices like your own, if not