by any stretch of the imagination. as we've seen in iraq, often a foreign military force is a lightning rod for insurgent activity and focuses minds against the outsiders. there are no good military strategies here. it looks like a focus now of different nations trying to use air power. perhaps getting turkey to seal that border more effectively. frankly, without crossing that porous border, isis are in a much tighter spot. that can begin to turn things around. while it's ridiculous, frankly, to say isis is contained, there's untruth that the territory around syria and iraq has gotten smaller. we were in sinjar has peshmerga take that down. they're in afghanistan, increasingly in libya. they're not a global phenomenon shrinking. >> you saw firsthand in iraq as you saw them retake sinjar. colonel, i want to get your take on what you heard from the two world leaders.