Transcripts For CNBC Closing Bell 20150910

Up in the regular session about 4 . Its since come back in the electronic session. That has been a big influence on equities today. For that reason well see how stocks do into the close. Art cashin mentioned, there is a strong relationship between these two. Tmobile fighting back with its own plan. Books shares falling despite Strong Revenue and billings they reported last quarter. Ceo aaron levie is back with us. They just came public this year. We start with the markets. Stocks are up, now futures were down earlier today. China with a big growth problem, brazil downgrade, russia a mess and indias okay. A few years back somebody said these Brick Companies were great but when that brick is around your neck and the water is rising, that is not a good thing. You can drown with that brick. Im not bullish because i have problems with earnings growth, problems with multiples, all kinds of problems so i cant call myself a bull. If we have a 20 correction, i would buy. We have to come to certain new realities. While they are adjusting to those new realities, there will be blood no there will be volatility. David has become an influential market prognosticator, just when he made those comments this morning on squawk box futures fell on his word he was not as bullish in the past. Lets get reaction. We have amy wu from rbc capital markets, luke tilly and jonathan corpina. Jonathan, ill start with you. This has been a theme. Even though the markets settled down after the tremendous volatility the last few weeks, plenty of people, i would put david in that group, waiting for another shoe to drop. This volatility is the new normal. Growth has not been as strong as we wanted domestic and international. Earnings season hasnt added that buoy weve seen in our market. There is so much uncertainty what is going to happen with the fed if they dont raise rates next week, well continue to have this conversation about uncertainty. This is the new normal. We need to get used to it. I think this market does have room for a pullback as the uncertainty continues with investors not putting money back into this market. Did you guys increase or reduce your exposure to stocks the last couple of weeks . We maintained our exposure. We think the main source is the uncertainty about the fed. Also uncertainty about growth in chinas economy. We think risk assets are the place to be. Amy, you measure the sentiment in the Options Market and what the expectations are. Whats the market expecting here, much more volatility or not . Things continue to remain quite elevated. I think that tells you that they continue to expect more volatility to come. I think part of it is, if you look at the summer things were so rangebound it took people by surprise. People forgot the vix could be where it is right now. I think it would be cathartic if something did happen next week we would have one aspect of that uncertainty off the table. Is the vix part of the problem . Guy adami brought this up a couple of times saying its some of the positioning we are seeing in the derivatives markets that enhances the moves up and lower. Short term the answer is yes. On the longer term, more fundamental term, we are seeing investors considering selling puts. Teper said i would be buying down from here. Other people say committing to own 15 below these levels is not a bad idea. What role does oil play in leading this market or influencing it . Is it a currency play or whats going on here, do you think . I think if you go back six months ago there was this correlation between market moves and oil moves. Its become so disconnected now. The volatility weve seen in oil has shown us that the pull away from equities to that commodity is clearly in effect right now. The current play now is to wait for oil to come back down, hopefully buyers come in and buy on the dip and get back to the 50, 52 range. Lets show everybody the sector board if we can. What is interesting how normal it looks. We are back to the trading patterns that prevailed much of the year where health care is out front leading the way. Technology having a good session. Are those areas attractive to you guys . Weve been overweight financials and health care and technology. This far into the cycle may be counterintuitive. We believe the economy is strong and there is still room to run for the u. S. Economy. We like those areas. Why do you think when we heard from citis chief economist saying china will pull the Global Economy into a recession, more and more lining up saying they think we are nearing the end of a Business Cycle. Why do you feel differently . Its been such a long, steady growth coming out of a deeper session. The fact we are past the average length of the average recovery isnt indicative of where we are. The slow, steady growth combined with Economic Indicator we are looking at indicate we should have growth the next nine to 12 months. There are the ten sectors in the s p 500 index. Health care leading the way there. Weve got telecom the only one in negative territory. Amy, you mentioned the rangebound trading. We broke through that range. Are we going to widen that range or what do you see happening here . Originally people would look at spreads. We are not talking about owning put options. One thing that would tell me, people want to protect not in a range but for something extreme. That may be harkening to some sort of increase in volatility for the next couple of months. That is the other shoe. Exactly. How unusual is that for people to be positioned that way . Into year end, there is always positioning. I think its the fact the type of positioning has changed to some degree. Instead of spreads looking at payouts, i would be interested in tails. That is a subtle difference in the positioning and hedging to the down side we are seeing interest in. Love it. Good to see you. Thank you for joining us today. Lets talk about brazil. Shares lower after standard and poors cut its debt rating to junk status. Finally, some are saying. Our chief International Correspondent Michelle Carusocabrera has details on the fallout. Brazils Credit Rating is the latest casualty of that massive Corruption Scandal thats been engulfing the statecontrolled oil company petrobras. That scandal led to dozens of arrests and destroyed nearly all of president del ma rousseffs capital. The Prime Minister nearly resigned out of embarrassment because he promised investors brazil would deliver a budget surplus. New budget comes out. Guess what . Big deficit. Add to that the global collapse in Commodity Prices pushing commoditydependent economies like brazil lower and leading to a slide in the countrys currency, the real. That adds to pain for global investors. When you look at the brazil etf, its down 54 . You as an american if you bought it, your real is lower, as well. In the past when an emerging market was cut to junk it often marked the bottom. Ubs told clients not this time. They think there is more bad news to come, whether its the Corporate Bond market down there or the stock market. Brazil is a huge story in its own right. The key question for most investors is how systemic is this . What are the linkages to other financial systems, ours included . When you look at the charts, theyve been suffering for more than a year, right . If there was going to be some big systemic impact, we probably would have seen it. I say the one thing is that we know petrobras bonds in particular are very pervasive in a lot of the Pension Funds in the united states. People might feel losses in certain parts of their portfolio, but systemic crisis, its not greece. Is del ma rousseff going to stay in power . There was talk of impeachment. That is a big question. There is a big vote in october related to financial accounting. If that goes negatively, the chances of her getting impeached are higher. It could be she cant control the parliament any more and she is not going to be able to stay in power. Theyll have to come up with other new elections. She is in a lot of trouble. There was a debt option today canceled. Is that because of the cut in s p . Market conditions is what they cited. Thats being driven by the fact they were downgraded twice in a week they tried to borrow money. They tried to borrow locally in local money under local injures particulars. They didnt want to pay the high Interest Rates they would have to pay. They canceled the auction. Shows how they are struggling to raise money. All right. Thank you for now. Thank you. Michelle carusocabrera with another black eye for brazil. 50 minutes to go in the session. Stocks holding on to positive territory. Nasdaq having the strongest session of the three up 36 points. The ceo of a Company Called box aaron levee will speak with us. How he plans to stem the Cloud Storage Company Losses as they raise revenue and growth estimates. But first, guess which Airline Ranked Worst in the latest air travel Consumer Report card . Bill . Hmm. Thats next. A one, a two, a three percent cash back next. Theres gotta be a better way to find the right card. Creditcards. Com lets you compare hundreds of cards to find the one thats right for you. Just search, compare, and apply at creditcards. Com. Everyone is looking for ways while to cut expenses. S unique, and thats where pg es Online Business Energy Checkup tool can really help. You can use it to track your Actual Energy use. Find rebates that make equipment upgrades more affordable. Even develop a Customized Energy plan for your company. Think of it as a way to take more control over your operating costs. 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Lululemon getting crushed with investors focusing on the yoga apparel makers softer than expected guidance. Ever core isi downgraded lulu to a sell cutting price target to 48 from 53. Earlier price target was 60. Dollar tree losing ground with Credit Suisse downgrading to underperform and cutting its price target to 60 from 70. Its now at 66. The firm citing execution risks from its Family Dollar acquisition. The department of transportation unveiling its air travel Consumer Report card. Lets get straight to phil lebeau with the details on who failed and who passed. July is the month we are looking at here. Generally it was a good month for people who were flying domestically here in the united states. Here are the Top Five Airlines in terms of ontime arrival. Hawaiian, alaska, delta. We always see them at the top of the list. American and express jet. 78. 1 of the flights were on time. Some airlines didnt make 78 . Look at the bottom five. Spirit at the bottom. Frontier, southwest, united and jetblue. All coming in below the industry average. Overall, when you talk to people about the month of july in terms of flying, you probably heard good things because there were no extended tarmac delays. Generally speaking we had good weather, fewer mishandled bags relative to the same month a year ago. Customer complaints were up 31 . People said they have to love these low jet fuel prices. Investors have been selling the Airline Stocks along with the rest of the market. Thats why even though the airlines will be posting big numbers for the Third Quarter, the Airline Stocks remain under pressure. Do they break out what the complaints are about . What are are they complaining about, do we know . Most of the time its regarding scheduling, delayed flight or canceled flight. My favorite part of this report every month is they also track the number of compliments. There were more than 2,100 complaints. There were five compliments. Five people said i had a nice flight. I was just going to say jokingly, you could count on one hand, but you literally could count them on one hand. I love that. In july i happened to have great flight experiences. I know this is going to come back to haunt me, i had good experience this whole year with being on time, no issues with bags. Sometimes i feel like it is much too easy or more easy to complain than to reflect a positive user experience. Its hard to say whether or not overall people are happier. When you look at the latest metrics in terms of consumer experience, most those show people are not as happy as they were a few years ago. That is because we have more crowded schedules. Consider yourself lucky you had good experiences this year. I have a feeling luck is about to run out. You never know. Phil, thanks very much. I love that. Five compliments that whole time. We have a possible deal in the bioTech Industry. Dominic chu with details. What we are watching are shares of zs pharma, about a 2 billion biopharmaceutical company. Soaring by 28 . Its off its best levels today after bloomberg headlines said swiss drug atellion was to consider it as a takeover candidate and they held talks some time last month. The story goes on to say its unclear whether they had talks since then. Also that etellion is looking to evaluate a number of different types of candidates for a possible acquisition. Thats the reason why shares are higher. Zs pharma based in texas specializes in hard to treat conditions, diseases, mainly around cardiovascular, liver, renal. A multibillion Dollar Company at this point. Possibly a takeover candidate, so say some bloomberg headlines. That is the reason those shares are moving. Well bring any more details if they become available us to. Back to you. Dom, thank you so much. I want to know what the five compliments were. 40 minutes left in the trading session here. An anemic rally. Dow up 75 points. Its been all over the map led higher and lower at one time by the price of oil today. The reversal today, shares of box falling on widening losses despite the better than expected results which initially saw shares up. Box Ceo Aaron Levie will speak with us at a first on the wall street journal report interview next. One of the visionaries behind verizons latest move to attract more millennial users to their mobile device services. How verizon plans to make money from this free mobile streaming service. So youre a Small Business expert from at t . Yeah, give me a problem and ive got the solution. Well, we have 30 years of customer records. Our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. My drivers dont have time to fill out forms. Tablets. Keep it all digital. Were looking to double our deliveries. Our fleet apps will find the fastest route. Oh, and your boysenberry apple scones smell about done. Ahh, youre good. I like to bake. Add new Business Services with at t and get up to 500 in total savings. Ahh. Steve, other than making me move stuff, ces. What are you working on . Let me show you. Okay. Our thinkorswim Trading Platform aggregates all the options data you need in one place that lets you visualize that information for any options series. Okay, cool. Hang on a second. You can even see the anticipated range of a stock expecting earnings. Impressive. Whats up, tim . For all the confidence you need. Td ameritrade. You got this. The dow losing steam here. S p 500 up almost 0. 5 . Nasdaq having a nice session up about 0. 75 . Here is the nasdaq 100 heat map. About 32 gainers outpacing decliners on the session. Notably those decliners still include netflix. Tesla, elon musk was on the colbert show last night. Nevertheless, its not one of those and wynn is the big loser. One day after apple announced a grand plan for its iphone, tmobile has come up with a plan of its own that undercuts the technology giant. Tmobile leading the charge. Starting this saturday, you can preorder a new iphone for 20 a month or the iphone 6s for 24 or at the hand hand back the phone or pay 164 more if you want to keep it. Youre paying 524 for a phone that retails for about 650. Tmobile says this special introductory pricing wont last long. They dont specify how long exactly. Tmobiles Ceo John Legere calls the deal a nobrainer. Apple hoping to boost sales of its iphones introduced this new installment plan of its own. Users can upgrade to a new phone every year. And choose the carrier whether its at t, sprint, tmobile or verizon as well as get an extended warranty and the cheapest option is about 32 a month for a 16 gigabyte iphone6s. Priceiest option is 425. I feel as though this news almost got lost amid Everything Else happening yesterday. This is a big deal. Suddenly apple is in the financing business and going direct to consumers . This is a big change. Consumers have that much more flexibility. You dont have to break the contract and pay to have that much more money. Its interesting for the carriers. Carriers have been switching from the contract onto stall model. Carriers usually lose money on the handset so they are happy to has it off to apple. Where they make money is Wireless Service until apple came out and said we are going to sell you the phone and service. Tim cook didnt announce that yet. I havent figured out whether losing the twoyear deal will save me money or not. Im using the same data and paying for that. We need some calculator for th that. Apple has been financing computers. Lets get to sue herera for an update. Here whats happening. Ellen powell who lost her sexual discrimination lawsuit. She has been ordered by the court to pay the firm 275,000 in legal fees. Democratic president ial hopeful Bernie Sanders says he is feeling pretty good after a new poll shows him up over Hillary Clinton in iowa. He told reporters that his campaign will put resources into states beyond iowa and new hampshire. New york citys Police Commissioner bill bratton says he and mayer bill de blasio want to apologize to former tennis star james blake who was thrown to the ground and handcuffed by several officers in what authorities are calling a case of mistaken identity. Radioshack has won Court Approval of a settlement involving gift cardholders in its bankruptcy case. 1 3 of the 46 million in outstanding gift cards will be paid in full. General wire life which bought radioshack trademark and more than 1,700 stores agreed to honor all cards for 50 off merchandise purchases. You are up to date. That is the news update. Back to you. Lets talk about verizon. They have a streaming Service Called go 90. If you want to watch a movie, you turn your mobile device 90 degrees so its horizontal. Got that . Its free. Eventually it will be for everyone, not just verizon users. Its part of this broader push for digital growth aimed at millennials. Guilty. President of Product Innovation in new businesses at verizon. Welcome to you. This is a content product or new delivery . Maybe if i could start with just the Industry Trends and dynamics. If you take a look at viewership you know many are moving to a mobile first orientation. Less people watching on traditional. Millennials moving to their mobile device. Many over 40 never had traditional tv. You have advertisers and brands trying to reach that segment. We put together a social entertainment platform for a mobile first generation. Its about creating the best content, having the best of live on demand, merging content with the web. Then creating a compelling experience around that content. We know that consumers use 47 of social media when they are watching content. So we created a sharing experience where you can cut and clip and share your personal favorites with friends and fans. So its all about creating fans, not viewers in our product. Youre using the ad model. Youre not a Subscription Service. You are going to make money theoretically by selling ads for this, which is the Old Fashioned way. Why did you decide to go with that Business Model . We also know we need to create a compelling experience for consumers in exchange for that. We think weve done that. We do have aspirations at some point to do subscription. Primarily it will be ad subscription now with the opportunity to do some premium content in the future. I have bills mobile phone. I download this 90 app then what . Youll be able to follow the kind of content you want. You can follow friends and the kind of content they want. You can join cruz. You have the ability to clip and share the content to express yourself through the content you like. You can have conversation plus consumption of content on the application. Are you pulling are you pulling social Networks Like facebook and instagram or more traditional tv content and allowing me to clip in and share and be a fan of it . The content is designed around the millennial segment. I would say genz. Also the best of live. All of that content will be in the platform. In terms of sharing, you can share inside the application or soon be able to use facebook or any of the other methods you use to share outside the application, as well. The thing that got this baby boomers attention, you are going to show nfl games on this. I know they are developing a Subscription Service for the games. How did you pull that off . Am i going to be able to watch any nfl game i want on this service . The nfl has been a great partner with us for a very long time. What i would say about the content partners, we had many dynamic partners who see the vision where we are going. This is unchartered ground for us. We had these fabulous partners come along and nfl is one of those. And a big game tonight. Yes. Marni, thank you. Its going for the millennials. Thank you for having me. This could get us baby boomers to let go of rabbit ears finally. We are not so different. You and i are not that different, but apparently they think other millennials are. Using these terms are nice way to describe shifts happening across our society. Were people, too, you know. The dow is up only 41 points. The s p hanging on to about a sixpoint gain. Nasdaq up 26. A veteran traders tells us what hes watching as we roll through that crucial final half hour of this trading session. Still to come, box Ceo Aaron Levie will speak with us. Im watson. And today hundreds of companies are putting me to work. Im teaching watson to help your vet speak dog. Youre a dog, right . Im teaching watson to help you make healthy choices. Im teaching watson to help design a vacation around your personality. Dont judge. 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That would kind of line people up and you saw the market pull back. We were trading up 1965 and backed off to the 1950 level again. That made sense. There is still time to go. I dont think there is any reason to panic. Volume has been lighter. Are you seeing that . Volume has been light surprising considering its after labor day. These imbalances are a psychological thing. People are nervous about it. It speaks to the anxiety level out there i think youll see the market back off the way we saw it happen. Could be more until that fed meeting. Thank you. Thanks. We are also watching Cloud Storage company box. That stock has been under pressure today. What got the markets attention was the company reporting a 43 rise in revenue for the quarter. It raised its growth forecast for the year. Joining us once again we welcome back box Ceo Aaron Levie to break down these numbers. Welcome back. Thank you. How could you characterize this quarter . Youve only been public a year. This is our Third Quarter as a public company. Was certainly a breakout quarter for us from a growth standpoint. We reached a 73. 5 million in the quarter and raised our guidance next quarter and fiscal year 16. Then reached 50,000 customers that now pay for and use the box product as their standard solution for content management and collaboration. Great quarter for the business. It seems like investors see this as a doubleedged sword. Love the fact you are growing top line but think at the same time that means your losses are growing, as well. What is the trajectory for you guys to turn a profit here . We will be achieving positive Free Cash Flow the final quarter of fiscal 17 which is january 31st of 2017. About six quarters away. We are showing a clear trajectory of improvement on things like sales and marketing as revenue. Our operating income measurement over time well see continue to improve. As we continue to grow, the business will show a lot more of those efficiency metrics. Right now, we are focused on capturing market share. We are the leader in enterprise content management in the cloud. We continue to gain market share. We wanted to ask you about companies youre developing relationships with in a big way. One is apple. The other is ibm. Ibm will be selling your product in some cases. Then you are able to use their data bases. Is that a blueprint for future relationships or unusual circumstance here . Ibm will be uniquely significant for us how we are investing in the partnership. Together well bring joint solutions for the market. We are a partnercentric organization. We work with microsoft, apple, ibm. The investment they are making in that partnership is substantial and unique for this industry. Why not just have them buy you . I definitely love ginny and think she is doing a great job steering ibm into the future. At box we are focused on staying independent. We think this is the best way to capture the opportunity we see ahead. We see tens of billions of dollar market around content management. We want to stay independent. Quoting a tweet of yours last week, for all future inquiries about the state of the Tech Industry and or the world, email tim cook, you said, a guy i see is also going to be speaking at your box works conference. Yesterday showed us a little bit of the future. What is your interpretation of what we are seeing from apple here . Apple had an incredibly comprehensive set of announcements yesterday. You saw everything from their most personal Consumer Devices like the apple watch to their more enterpriseoriented initiatives like ipad pro. Now into the home with tv. Apple is on fire in terms of the amount of innovation they are driving. That told a very broad story around what they are doing. At box works, we are excited to have tim cook talking about what apple is doing in the enterprise. And how we are working together. What role will you play in their effort to make this ipad pro very businessfriendly in the enterprise area . The thing the ipad and iphone have both done, it changed the landscape of enterprise i. T. Used to be enterprise is focused on the personal computers that were inside a corporation. Then all of a sudden with the iphone and ipad, those devices came out and dramatically changed the level of mobility, types of collaboration and huge cases businesses could have around using much more personal technology. Box stores content that can be accessed from all those different devices. We have a complimentary relationship with apple. The more growth they see for mobile devices, the more we see for customers like general electric, toyota or eli lilly needing a secure place to manage their content. Well leave it there. Aaron, thanks to you. Thanks. Aaron levie, ceo of box. 17 minutes lift in the trading session here. Dow holding on to a gain of sorts. Up 30 points right now. 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More on how that offering to impact twitter, lets check in with Julia Boorstin. Thats right. Sources tell me square is working towards an ipo, which depending on market conditions, could come in the Fourth Quarter. Jack dorsey twitters interim ceo is committed remaining ceo of square. Nothing has changed since he issued a statement in june saying, quote, i am square ceo and that wont change. So unless twitters Board Changes its tune, he wont get the permanent ceo role there. In june, twitters board issued a statement saying the committee will only consider candidates who are in a position to make a fulltime commitment to twitter. With twitter shares suffering over the past several months, highprofile investors have come out in support of dorsey saying he could do both roles. The fact that twitters board hasnt publically reversed its stance shines a spotlight on adam bain. Of coarse even if twitters board says they were okay with dorsey running both companies, investors at square might not be too happy with that. Well have to see. Square has no comment. Back to you. Thank you very much, Julia Boorstin with the latest. Surprising we havent heard yet from twitter who is going to be ceo permanently. Its taken a long time. 12 minutes left. Art cashin walked by. 800 million to sell. That is in part what has taken some of the wind out of the sail with the market with the dow up 41 points. Well take you to the close next. Later, Jessica Simpson lit up the New York Stock Exchange ringing that opening bell, making the rounds. Find out what she says is her biggest money mistake coming up. Equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. At ally bank no branches equalsits a fact. Kind of like mute buttons equal danger. That sound good . Not being on this phone call sounds good. Its not muted. Was that you jason . It was geoffrey it was jason. It couldve been brenda. Dow up 49 points. That doesnt tell the story. Dow has been up triple digits couple times today. Every time we get up there, it comes back down. Down 19,000, you believe that by the end of this year . It will be a stretch. Third quarter earnings will be strong. S p 2200. The thesis is i think all the fixation on the fed Interest Rate hike is kind of nonsense. You guys did a great piece on squawk box. He nailed it. Even the idea of 1 Interest Rates is so far from normalization we shouldnt talk about this. Its going to come down to democratic economic growth. Strong u. S. Corporate earnings growth. All the trouble in the Second Quarter is behind us. I think the Fourth Quarter will be gangbusters. To see a 10 Fourth Quarter is not all that crazy. I read a report, i forget who penned it. Their assessment was to underweight the u. S. Market because two things. One, a maturing Business Cycle. Number two, lets face it, the fed is going to start raising rates at some point. Neither of those is very good for the u. S. Equity market at this time. I would argue the second point is negated. Lets say the fed raises next week quarter points. Lets say they raise again because things are going wonderful in a u. S. Economy in december. Youre still only at 50 basis points. In economic terms that is ultralow Interest Rate. I dont think that slows us down. It gets us psychologically off that zero mark which is positive. What about the Business Cycle . David tepper said they would be hard pressed to meet earnings goals next year. 2016 will be much more challenging. What youve seen over the last year, because the market has been sideways until last october has been a consolidation of sorts. Having a spring board where maybe we overshoot again like we did at 2125 earlier in the year is probably very possible. Im optimistic on corporate earnings. A lot of the head winds passed. You are seeing stronger labor markets and productivity. To the point of other people, the china fears are overblown at this point. Well see if thats the case. Thank you. Good to see you. Well be back with the closing countdown see how we do as we go out. Market up 50 points right now. After the bell, from successful businessman to president ial candidate, we are not talking about donald trump. Its john mcafee jumping into the race. Hell join us exclusively. Keep it right here. You are watching cnbc, first in business worldwide. So youre a Small Business expert from at t . Yeah, give me a problem and ive got the solution. Well, we have 30 years of customer records. Our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. My drivers dont have time to fill out forms. Tablets. Keep it all digital. Were looking to double our deliveries. Our fleet apps will find the fastest route. Oh, and your boysenberry apple scones smell about done. Ahh, youre good. I like to bake. Add new Business Services with at t and get up to 500 in total savings. We have 2 1 2 minutes left before the close. Mary thompson with me. We have this correlation between equities and oil. This is a chart today of the dow industrial average in white, if youve got a Color Television. Who doesnt have a Color Television any more . No one, i would say. Crude oil in the yellow there. It did follow until the close. Equities start to fall here while oil held on to that gain. Signs of production pulled back. Inventories were stronger than expected. The build was higher than expected. That is typically bearish. We saw that and weakness in the dollar helped to support oil and the rest of the commodity sector today. Some of the better performing sectors in this market, health care was the leader there. Technology. Technology took it over. Health care, energy interestingly that is a neglected group there. It is. Health care, one of the best performing sector this year. Tech being helped by the continued strength this week. Also contributing to the health care is a rebound in biotech today. Energy followed the lead of oil and financials, there was another upgrade to bank of america by wells fargo. It feels like theres a lot of indecision in this market. I thought art cashin made a good point today. It follows oil but after a while, the market was looking for Something Else to follow. Right. Thats why you continue to see these wide ranges weve seen in trading. Today was narrower for the dow. This volatility we see at the end of the day, do you want to be long, take money off the table. Concerns continue to be what will the fed do next week . The percentages say they wont move but there are enough people positioning themselves in case they do decide to raise rates. And china continues to be a question. Always there. Thanks, mary. See you later. We are going out with a gain, not a big one, but a gain. Up about 80 points. Its strengthening in with the close right now. Much more to come your way including controversial businessman john mcafee running for president . Thats on the second hour of closing bell with kelly evans. See you tomorrow. Thank you, bill. Welcome to closing bell, im kelly evans. Stocks going out with a gain. Looked last hour things were getting dicey. Dow up 77 points. That is good for nearly 0. 5 . S p back up to 1952. Nasdaq, the strongest performer adding 39 points to just below 4800. Joining me on todays panel, cnbc contributor carol roth, stephanie link and guy adami. Welcome to all of you. Guy, let me just start with you. Is it crude . Is it the market on close imbalances . We were still lagging in the final hour. At least we didnt see a repeat of yesterday with that big drop. Thats it. At least we managed to hold on to some gains after yesterday. On the week still up, i guess probably 20 handles or so on the s p. That is somewhat encouraging. 1970 on the up side has proven to be resistance. We need to go back and retest the 1820 level we traded down on october 15th. Despite the fact crude had a decent day in terms of bouncing, that ovx, Oil Volatility index, is up on the day, still north of 50 which says to me, the worst isnt over in terms of down side for the price of crude oil. I dont know what it means for the Broader Market. That is something worth watching. We also had Hedge Fund Billionaire david teper with a not so bullish tone. I like to see when some of those big stocks with big emerging market components, their pes come down. So me that. Show me when hedge funds arent with this increased volatility and out of this last twoyear range, show me that. Show me where Mutual Fund Cash levels are higher before these last two years. Show me that. Show me those things and maybe ill jump back in the water again. It pains him to say not so bullish. Would you take the other side of this tepper trade . I said we are in this period of volatility. I dont think we are geg oing t get through that for a while. We have to get through the fed and daily global analyzing of china and emerging markets. To David Teppers point, earnings are the big question market. This has been a stock pickers market all year long. We are going to learn more about margins, growth, visibility when we hear what the companies have to say. We are getting a little bit of a taste of that this week during conference season. This is a stockpickers market. There are pockets that are not expensive yet there are that are expensive. Youve got to pick your spots. What were your thoughts . Listening to him was almost like listening to guy adami. Weve been hearing from guy, folks like myself now from mr. Tepper that we need to focus on valuations and pe multiples. I think that is the big take away here. Valuations really on an overall market basis got way out in front of what us sustainable for the realistic growth rate. Nobody is saying we are not going to have any growth. Everybody said we are going to have sluggish growth. The pe multiples for the market needs to reflect that. I was happy to hear david say that. Im sure guy adami was happy to hear him say that. Not only happy to hear that, happy nfl football season is back. Carols fired up. Starts tonight. I was happy to hear those comments. You cant be a champion of david tepper when he says all bullish things and discount him when he says things arent as rosie as the market might make them appear to be. To stephanies point, we are seeing kneejerk reaction by Central Banks on almost a daily basis. On unprecedented scales. Almost like definition that cant be constructive for global markets. Guy, who are you long going into the football season . Im always long the football giants. I say the football giants despite the fact the baseball giants havent been here for years. My heart resides in the meadowlands with them. Emotion. He is investing with emotion. That is never a winning trade, guy. Stephanie, tell us where to put our money in this market. You mentioned there are specific areas that look attractive. Im rooting for the jets to let you know. Its been very hard the last couple of years, many, many years, anyway. Thats a different story. I look at financials. Some of the big banks are trading close to one times tangible book value. Even the payment processors while not cheap, theyve got the growth. Theyve got the secular drivers there. I really like those two spaces. Today i was encouraged to see money go back into health care. That group lagged. Its only up 3 on the year now. After being up almost double digits mid year. I think there are pockets in Health Care Like pharmaceuticals which give you very good yields and are trading at good reasonable valuations. Those are two areas i would focus. Lets flip over to dominic chu. He will look at stocks for us that are still on the decline. We heard about the strength. What about the weakness . Here is the thing. We are generally up. Most of the s p 500 is higher because the Broader Market is higher since those august 25th closing lows during the turmoil. If you take a look at the s p 500, we wanted a screen for companies with negative momentum. If you look at negative performance since august 25th, those 500 stocks become 70 stocks. 70 stocks have not gained traction since the august 25th low. If you look at among those stocks how many are still negative yeartodate medium term, it goes to 58 of them. There is a select group of those stocks. Take a look at some names that popped out. They vary across all different industries. Take a look at abbvie. Down 2 since the august 25th lows. Still down 9 yeartodate. Wynn resorts and weakness in china, its down 8 since those lows on the august 25th. Still down 53 yeartodate. Dollar tree, Analyst Reports didnt help the case. Down 5 yeartodate. Joy global, industrial, down 20 and 60 yeartodate. Here is the interesting part. Of the 58 stocks that are still negative yeartodate and have all those characteristics, 23 are in one specific sector and its not energy. Perhaps they are not as attractive as Interest Rate yields creep higher. The relative attraction in utility stocks becomes less attractive. Utilities lower since all the turmoil weve seen. That is a snapshot of some of the way the market looks right now. Of course again, like stephanie said, its a market of stocks and stock picking is work. These are places investors are looking as possibly maybe either a falling knife or bounce. Guy, any of them look appealing to you . Not those names necessarily. Stephanie mentioned biotech and health care. Look what gilead did today. Yesterday mike cowan and john and pete nejarian talked about gilead and bristolmeyers. I think the space, the space is in play. That is whats interesting to me to echo was stephanie was saying before. That is a challenge. Winners and losers, its hard to figure out who is going to be acquiring and who will be behind. You need to have a broad strategy and welldefended strategy. I think there are winners and losers as we talked about stock picking. If you look at dollar tree, they had problems. That was a poor acquisition they made with Family Dollar. Very poor . Yeah. It hasnt worked. So far. They overpaid. They didnt realize how bad in shape Family Dollar was in. Both Dollar General and dollar tree have come down. I would look at Dollar General as perhaps getting out of this and being one of the winners as dollar tree continues to flounder. What is happening now . Is the pendulum swinging back to a walmart here . There is competition, no doubt about it. You had three players. I think dollar tree was very well run and still is and Dollar General is well run. Family dollar had issues. That got bought. Dollar tree has to figure out how to extract growth and revive that brand. Its a companyspecific area. I think you want to look at who is going to win. If Dollar General comes down with the rest of the group, that might be one you want to take a look at. That is not an unusual story in mergers and acquisitions, unfortunately. Its something that happens more often than we would like to see. As we hear m a as a potential catalyst for the market going forward, you have to think about who is going to end up being able to execute and make that merger work and have those culture come together and be a winner and who will suffer through. We are seeing a lot of deal making. This is a sluggish growth environment. If you are seeing consolidation of weaker players, should you stay away from them . In a lot of cases, people are using their own stock for acquisition. They think their stock is expensive. Use your stock as currency. If they think their stocks are expensive, maybe the rest of us start to look. I dont know what it necessarily means when mergers from equals, those things happen or somebody gobbles up a weakling. I never think it works. You had an interesting interview with the box ceo. You asked him why doesnt ibm grab you guys . He mentioned theyve done a great job at ibm. What planet has she done a great job . Im not trying to crush her, but its disingenuous. Warren buffett is buying it hand over fist. That is called chasing bad money with good money. He can do it in perpetuity. Ibm no longer has the clarity they used to have. It deserves an eight or nine multiple. Throw a 15 earnings you get a 140 stock and that is whats transpired. I think the time horizon for Warren Buffett might be different than guy adami or stephanie link. They havent executed as well. Theyve taken a long time in trying to transition to the growth businesses to cloud, data, analytics. If you go through their last quarter, they did pretty good, actually. They had growth. Problem is they have a huge legacy business that is in secular decline that they were too late to address. We can talk about hewlettpackard, emc, theres a lot of these old Line Technology companies that were slow to adapt to this new growth technology. That is whats going on. Not a lot of them have been able to acquire their way out of it its always come from an organic perspective. Lets get to an earnings alert on restoration hardware. What can you tell us . High end side. Restoration hardware on the high end furniture and fixture side of the equation. Down about a percent. 114,000 shares trans yakted so far after the company came out with earnings per share that slightly beat 85 cents a share versus analyst estimates for 84 cents. Revenues coming in better. 507 million for the past quarter. 503 was the average analyst estimate. They did report Comparable Store sales up 16 . That beats the average analyst estimate by 2 . Their Current Quarter profits and Current Quarter revenue guidance was slightly below what analysts were looking for. Shares down by a little over a percent on 124,000 shares of volume. The stock has been down about 5 yeartodate entering this number and up about 11 over the past 12 months. Well have more on this theme in a little bit. Thank you. Shares under a little bit of pressure. Thank you, guy. Stick around and catch guy adami with more on fast money at 5 00. Talking to a Hedge Fund Manager who has three reasons oil is bottoming. Why the rental market could give a boost to nation home builders. John mcafee is running for president. The tech legend may be more outspoken than the donald. He is here first coming up. My name is rene guerrero. Im a senior Field Technician for pg e here in san jose. Pg e is using new technology to improve our system, replacing pipelines throughout the city of san jose, to provide safe and reliable services. Raising a family here in the city of san jose has been a wonderful experience. My oldest son now works for pg e. When i do get a chance, an opportunity to work with him, its always a pleasure. I love my job and i care about the work i do. I know how hard our crews work for our customers. I want them to know that they do have a safe and reliable system. Together, were building a better california. Welcome back. We have a news alert on the Iran Nuclear Deal. As you probably know, there has been a republicanbacked measure that is designed to derail that iran nuclear agreement. At this point, it has basically, in the u. S. Senate voting continues. The measure to derail it has been blocked in the senate. As you know, the president has gotten a number of key law makers on his side. Right now, that is blocked. Voting will continue. Well keep you posted on it. Does not look successful at this point anyway. Back to you. See you in a minute for a news update. Indeed. Thank you. Home builders may be the next big winners from the hot housing rental market. Diana olick is here post nine. Welcome. Thank you. Ive been getting to hear about this maybe two years ago. When i tried to do the story, everyone said it will never happen. Housing was recovering, rental demand would go down. Fast forward to today and suddenly those Institutional Investors who bought foreclosures to rent are buying newlybuilt homes direct from the builders. Starwood waypoint bought over 16,000 foreclosed properties and is now buying new. They say todays renters are by choice, not by necessity. They will pay a premium for new and their demand is only growing. In some instances, we are going in and buying the first 10 of a development. In some instances we are buying the last 10 of a development. What they are trying to do is build more homes and we are enabling them to increase their volume and their sales velocity. Lennar which hedged the housing crash putting up rental apartments just signed their first or opened their first singlefamily rental community in sparks, nevada. I spoke to lennar ceo this week. Hes a big believer in the continued rental demand. He didnt say he is selling directly to investors, but said lennar is already planning more rental communities. This could get muchneeded builder volume back. I find this fascinating. Oh, yeah. They said it would not happen and here it is happening. They are filling these homes. What do you make of it . My question is how much of this is being driven by Institutional Investors and how much is being driven by perhaps the lay person on main street who has extra money who says i dont know what to do with it . Maybe ill buy another house and rent it out. Im starting to hear that. That is always scary to me. You wouldnt believe how many people said should i buy a house when they heard about this story. A lot of folks are doing the mom and pop. That was the original Single Family investor play. Now we see the Institutional Investors getting in on the game, that is where that volume for the builders comes in. Builders didnt want their homes to be rentals. They didnt want renters in their community. Now if they are playing with the institutional guys, that says something. The millennials that are renters now, will this completely continue longer than we thought . Already is. We thought theyll grow up and start to buy. They will. I am not a believer millennials will never buy a home. Their time horizon is different. They get married later, have kids later. We see the baby boomers down sizing into rental homes. You have this demand on both ends of the spectrum and smaller time frame for homeownership. When we read your note about lennar getting involved, they are a class act operator. They are visionaries. They made money off rental apartments. Right. If they are getting involved, they see the secular trends. Diana, thank you. Out to dominic chu for a market flash on starbucks. Starbucks headline crossing out of the conference in new york city. Scott ma told investors that starbucks isnt seeing any Material Impact on the number of transactions or profits or sales coming out of china, despite all those concerns we have about the market turmoil going on over there. He stated that starbucks plans to roll out its mobile pay type systems, pay app nationwide by the end of the month. Starbucks presenting at the Goldman Sachs global retailing conference in new york. Interesting they mentioned china. Near the top of their presentation during this particular conference. Back to you. Thank you. Those shares having a nice session today. Mcdonalds is about to start allday breakfast. Any thoughts on starbucks . If anyone should get a premium multiple because they were vision ris at tarvisionari. I did buy chicken mcnuggets with an apple watch. To stephanies point, starbucks have access to big data. Because they were at the forefront of mobile app, you now pay with your rewards cards. They have so much data on the consumer, i dont think theyve started to tap in. This is a company that seems not to be recessionproof but worthive its multiples. Justice Department Planning to step up prosecutions of wall street executives. Details next. Jessica simpson at the New York Stock Exchange. What she says has been her biggest money mistake. Stay tuned. This just in 50 million customers data was not compromised this morning in a Security Breach that didnt happen. Wall street. Not rattled. At all. No. Not at all. Not at all. I mean, look at the day. Sir. Sir. What went right . What went right . Everything. Thank you. 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Eamon javers joins us from washington with the details. Deputy attorney general laid down a marker today in a speech in new york saying corporations are no longer going to be allowed to simply write a check to settle civil charges when they dont also in many cases face criminal penalties for those individuals who actually committed the crime. Yates said this boils down to a matter of fairness. Take a listen. Americans should never believe, even incorrectly, that ones criminal activity will go unopinionished simply because it was committed on behalf of a corporation. Yates said in the past the department of justice had trouble making these kinds of cases, partly because of the difficulty of getting corporate insiders to cooperate and wear a wire, and partly because the department of justice hasnt structured these investigations from the getgo to be going after individual executives now she says that will change. The department will change its internal procedures and change the rules for when Companies Get credit for cooperating with the department of justice in order to get that credit now, she said, the companies are going to have to name the names of the individuals who are involved. Something they had been reluctant to do in the past. That can draw out the time frame for investigations, meaning its tricky to get to the individuals before the statute of limitations for the crime passed. Thank you, eamon javers from washington. Andrew, im sure youll say this is too little, too late . Exactly. The timing is incredible. If this isnt the ultimate example of hutspa, i dont know what is. After the statute of limitations passed, we are going to start to pursue these guys . Its too late. This is political theater at its finest. If we want to stop fleecing of americans and want people to have accountability, maybe the doj should focus on washington and k street instead of wall street. This sounds like political theater, a way to get more money, to make their political point. I think they are looking in the wrong direction. They should focus on government accountability. That is a big problem. When you impose these massive multibillion dollar fines, thats fine. That is eventually paid by shareholders. Until you start indicting the Senior Executives for serious conduct. Remember post 2008 we had the libor manipulation, Money Laundering by banks for terrorists and drug cartels. If this doesnt get an indictment, i dont know what is. There is justice for guys on the street versus wall street executives. Until those sorts of indictments go through, there is going to be a big problem our simulator reply isnt fair. That is unfortunate. What do you think the catalyst was for this to be announced . The timing is so strange. I think part has to do with eric holder leaving and going back to a defense firm that defends Brokerage Firms and banks. I think its a classic example of regulation by headline. They want a front page story in the New York Times and got it. In reality, this doesnt do anything. Carol . Exactly. It doesnt do anything. Its political theater. Its more government as usual. Frankly, i think they have a lot more to do what about in their own ranks than worrying about what is going on on wall street . Is there not something to be said for china . A lot is closing the barn door after the horse left. Is it to set up a better go after the guys in the next event . Possibly. I guess that is a good development. If you havent gone after these guys with some of the activity engaged in in the last five or seven years, i dont know what its going to take. That is unfortunate. Right now its window dressing. That is unfortunate. Do they have the manpower to do it . I think they have the manpower. I just dont think they have a stomach. A big problem is the revolving door between regulators and department of justice going back to the same law firms and banks these guys are supposed to prosecute. Its just really incestuous and nasty. Andrew, thank you. Lets get out to a cnbc news update. Here is whats happening. President Obama Meeting with veterans and mothers who lost children during military operations. He is discussing the Iran Nuclear Deal and thanked them for their service and said the deal is a Good Alternative to military confrontation. Sergey lavrov says his company will fly military and humanitarian aid to syria. Israels defense minister saying Russian Troops are in the country. Mr. Lavrov says the western approach is a failure. Campbells soup and Keurig Green Mountain are rolling out pods that will allow consumers to make a cup of soup in their keurig machines. They recommend running a hot water brew cycle without a pod before and after making soup. The tonight show with jimmy fallon is back on top. During Stephen Colberts debut, he crushed fallon and abcs jimmy kimmel, but last night fallon was back to being number one beating his rivals in adults aged 18 to 49 and total viewers. That is the news update. Back to you. Thank you for now, sue herera. Uber dealt another loss over whether its drivers are employees or independent contractors. First, he was once on the run from the law in belize. Now john mcafee is running for president of our country. He joins us next to lay out his vision for america. When you do business everywhere, the challenges of keeping everyone working together can quickly become the only thing you think about. Thats where at t can help. At t has the tools and the network you need, to make working as one easier than ever. Virtually anywhere. Leaving you free to focus on what matters most. The dow staying in positive territory. Health care led the way today. Nasdaq adding about 39. It was up 0. 9 . Crude did well. Up 3. 5 . Lets take a look at whats happening with shares of zumiez down 18 . The speciality apparel retailer came in with earnings 11 per share, analysts looking for 12 cents. We do have commentary about the future. They see their Current Quarter Comparable Store sales down 7 to 9 . Analysts were looking for a down 1 mark. They did report their past Quarter Store sales were down 4. 5 . They provided weak q3 sales guidance. Outlook falling short of analyst expectations. Shares down 18 on a stock that is already down 44 yeartodate. Finisar makes a lot of computer networking cables and equipment drich by optical technology. Those shares are down by about 9 on 148,000 shares worth of volume. We are also talking about an interesting report overall. Missing 23 cents a share. Analysts looking for 26. 314 million worth of revenue. The ceo it company is stepping down. They gave weak Second Quarter revenue and profit guidance. Those shares reacting negatively to all that news. Back to you. A couple of big droppers there. Antivirus Software Pioneer john mcafee throwing his hat into the 2016 president ial ring. He plans to part as part of the new cyber party. Jane wells joins us with the mcafee founder john mcafee himself. Hi. John thanks for joining us. Let me clarify. Have you filed yet and have you started to raise money . We have both filed and started to raise money, yes, maam. We filed on tuesday. How much have you raised so far . I have no clue. Ill have to ask my campaign manager. Ive been working 22 hours a day talking to the press and trying to understand the chaos around me. We are, too. Why would anyone vote for john mcafee for president . Well, i have a very huge fan base. Even a funny video making fun of myself a year ago got 6 million viewers. I dont understand it myself. The 18 to 35 year age group. Perhaps they are rebellious and ive always been rebellious. Im an entrepreneur. I run a multibillion Dollar Company. I am quick witted. You say proeivacy is approaching extinction. What do you plan to do about that . First thing is raise Awareness Among the American Public. Edward snowden notified us the nsa has been spying on the American Public for years using tax dollars i thought were to spy on our potential enemies. Instead they are looking for enemies among the american people. That is a sign of paranoia and sickness. Tech crunch says these are noble goals but youre the wrong spokesman because of these crazy allegations, unproven allegations of the murder in belize, the dui arrest in tennessee. Some would say you have to be high to think you could win. Is this about winning . Of course its about wing. I wouldnt be doing this otherwise. I am an entrepreneur. Really . I wouldnt start a business if i did not think the business would succeed, i wouldnt start a business. If i didnt think this campaign would succeed, i would not enter it. Keep in mind, there were no murder allegations. At no point was i charged with murder nor suspected of such. I was wanted with questioning in a third world country in central america. You understand what that means. They string you up by a heels and pound it until your brain turns to mush. Thats not the type of questioning i was interested in. I offered to answer any questions belize wanted in any neutral country. They declined. At no point was i charged. As to the dui go ahead. No. You go ahead. Many that hasnt gone to trial. I was taking a legal prescription for xanax. I obtained that day. I had never taken it before it affected me negatively. No question about it. In the state of tennessee, if i have taken the legal dosage and had no alcohol, which i had none. I have a blood test, my lawyer assures me the case will be dismissed. Even if it is not, does that invalidate my vision or my experience of my capabilities . I believe we have all made some mistakes. Who among the other candidates do you like . Trump, clinton . I think they are all very brilliant. I think Hillary Clinton is very smart and a very gracious woman for having to put up with bill all those years. Donald trump is smart and obviously a highly refined and confident entrepreneur. The only question i would ask him is, donald, whats with the hair . As to the rest, i dont pay much attention. Im trying to reach the American Public and find out what the heart and soul of this country is so if i become president i can lead it. As to my fellow candidates, i think they are all nice people. John mcafee, weve got to go. Real quick. What is the Campaign Slogan or bumper sticker, mcafee 2016 for . Basically our website is mcafee16. Com. Our Campaign Slogan. We are based on the loss of privacy and free do. I truly believe our government is dysfunctional. Somehow, a little bit sick in the head. John mcafee thank you for joining us. Well follow this very closely. Kelly, back to you. Journalists will have their hands full. Jane wells, thanks to you and john mcafee. Independent contractor or employee . The question that landed uber back in a california court. The ride share lost the legal battle this time. Could have a major impact on the companys Business Model. Equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. At ally bank no branches equalsits a fact. Kind of like mute buttons equal danger. That sound good . Not being on this phone call sounds good. Its not muted. Was that you jason . It was geoffrey it was jason. It couldve been brenda. Uber losing another legal battle in california. Kate rogers joins us with the details. Thats right. Another loss for uber in the ongoing fight over whether its drivers are employees or independent contractors. The California Employment Development department determined a former driver was entitled to Unemployment Benefits and deemed him an employee. The decision was first reported by reuters and applies to a single driver. The decision came out in august. It comes after last weeks ruling if a much larger case against uber also out of california which drivers were given class action status. Uber says the class will likely be under 15,000 people. Uber told cnbc in an email message that, this decision applies to one person. It does not have wider impact or set any formal binding precedent. Many public bodies have found that individual driver partners are independent contractors, including unemployment and labor departments in indiana, georgia, pennsylvania, colorado, texas, illinois, new york and california. Similar single driver employee rulings have been found in california and florida so far this year. Those watching this issue say the news does bode well for the drivers in uber and lift. This could greatly impact this sharing economy as many of these startups rely on the independent contractor model. Over to you. Thank you for continuing to follow that. We have a market flash. Puma biotechnology up 6. 5 on light volume. 6,500 shares after the company said they published a study in a peer review publication for one of their experimental Breast Cancer treatments that showed successful signs. Puma biotechnology saying one of its treatments meant to address Breast Cancer showed positive signs in a study. They published those results in a peer review journal. Shares up by 6. 5 . Only on about 6,600 shares worth of volume. A bigger move for this smaller cap biotech stock but on light volume. Back to you. A great development. Maybe someone there should run for president. She is known for hits like with you but built a Million Dollar retail empire. A billion dollars. Jessica simpson next. You totalled your brand new car. Nobodys hurt,but there will still be pain. It comes when your Insurance Company says theyll only pay threequarters of what it takes to replace it. What are you supposed to do, drive threequarters of a car . 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How do you know what people want today when it seems they are more interested in mobile phones. Hopefully they are shopping on their phone. I think so. I shop on my phone. I just know how to embrace and understand a woman. I know what they want. I know what they want to look like. Wearables is a category people are playing around with and what if i started, i know you might have active wear coming out. Will that embed technology the way under armor and big brands are talking about . Is that attractive to you . With the zipper pockets and everything. So thats all still to be decided, though. In our first launch, we have stuff like that but we dont have the we dont have an apple watch yet. Do you wear an apple watch . No. Or a fit bit . I used to but now i know how many miles it takes to burn the kalecalorie calories. Especially in the shoes. I wonder how you can trust in your partners. You do a lot of Licensing Agreements and had great people to work with and sequential involved with the brand and they can grow. They are making everything grow very large. But, you know, how do you know . How do you trust youre not going to get taken advantage of from top to bottom in business and the stakes are so high . I keep my business family. Everybody that works on the collection, theres not really a boss. We all are in it together, and weve created it together and i think that thats the biggest key to success is, you know, is loving everybody that you have around you and trusting in them and knowing that i definitely could never do this on my own, so its team work all the way. What about with your finances . Thats an area where loyalty and trust matter and as youre becoming more successful, who handles that . My Business Manager david leaven. Weve been together for 16 years. Hes one of the first people i met coming into new york city, and i trust him with everything. Weve made really great investments, we havent really had many mistakes. What kinds of investments . What kind . I dont cant really. Do you talk about sort of . I trust him with all that. Does he say look, your money is not stock market or invested . Do you get specific . I always know where all of my money is but there are people that i love that know. And you know where they sleep at night . Yes, i know where they sleep at night. What are some of the biggest money mistakes you made personally or with the business that helped you grow . The biggest money mistakes . I dont know. For some reason i thought of my first marriage. Thats actually a common answer believe it or not. Are you guys Cutting Family . Do you watch a lot of netflix . Do you watch a lot of tv . Were definitely, im a potato when i can be. Im always on netflix or apple tv. I have my shows. What are those shows . The weird thing is i actually dont watch comedy and i feel like i could star in a comedy but im more of i like the intense type of shows. Such as. Im a big scandal fan. Im a walking dead fan. I know everything about zombies. Where do you think or hope to be in the next five or ten years . Im ready for another billion. Who isnt . My thanks to Jessica Simpson. So interesting, guys, i love what she said about fit bit, she wore one until she realized thats 10,000 steps amount to. Wait until the new fit bit products come out. How about the biggest money mistake . I called that but what i loved about Jessica Simpson is she seems authentic and knows who that average American Consumer is. Her style is particular but resonates across the country to a wide variety of people, and i think she, i mean, she came across really well. As they tell us the first billion is the hardest, as she and pan expands, it seems like she has a lot of runway. There is more on cnbc. Com. 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I think that were not getting past that uncertainty any time soon and certainly more news out of china. That seems to be adding fuel to the fire here as making the fuel oil. We have tennis and football in the meantime. Long time great weekend. So fired up. I love it. Thank you both. That does it for us on closing bell. Time now for fast money. Fast money starts now overlooking new york citys times square. Our traders on the desk and tonight on fast quiet li something happened on the street that hasnt occurred since 2011, what it is and how you can protect yourself. A little watch, fit bit a turning point for one of the hottest ipos of the year but to the story of the day, oil finishing higher and crude rallying but Energy Stocks are not. So tonight, we ask is this a crude opportunity to get in . Should we expect equities to catch up with what is