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Welcome to the programme. Were live until 11 this morning. We will bring you the latest news and developing stories. Do get in touch on all the stories were talking about this morning use the Hashtag Victoria Live. And if you text, you will be charged at the Standard Network rate. Our top story today russian investigators are thought to have identified the man suspected of killing 11 people in the St Petersburg underground attack. 49 people were injured in the explosion between the two underground stations yesterday afternoon. Three days of mourning have begun. Sarah corker has this report. In russias second city, a show of grief and solidarity. President Vladimir Putin was in St Petersburg at the time of the attack. Above the station where the bombed train ended itsjourney, he paid his respects to those killed and injured on monday afternoon. From underground, images have emerged of the mangled metro train doors blown out, passengers trying to escape the wreckage, bodies lying on the platform. Local media are reporting that the suspect is a man in his 20s from central asia but there are conflicting reports as to whether he was a suicide bomber. Translation Law Enforcement bodies and special services are working and will do all they can in order to find out the cause of whats happened. At a nearby station, a second Explosive Device was found and defused. Security has been tightened across the country. Officials say this was an act of terror. Yet, at this makeshift memorial, russians remained defiant and united. Translation i am certain that we russians will not be divided. At this precise moment, all people of all faiths, all religions, and all political borders, everyone is united by grief. In recent years there have been several attacks on russias planes, trains, and airports. Once again, ordinary russians are asking how and why their loved ones asking how and why their loved ones were killed. Live to moscow and our correspondent. How might President Putin react . There is talk that the investigation, whichjust putin react . There is talk that the investigation, which just started, may have some political results because it has been known for the russian authorities to make reaction which is not immediately connected to fighting terror. For example, in the Bellas School Siege in 2004, mr putin cancelled Regional Elections for the governments. Analysts still struggle to see the connection. Obviously it is still too early to say. There are president ial elections next year. The theme of security, according to some a nalysts, security, according to some analysts, would be a convenient one to play upon in preparation. Once again, none of this has happened yet. There are no statements coming from the authorities, not even from the investigation itself. Most of the investigation itself. Most of the talking is being done by Security Services elsewhere. Thank you very much. Joanna is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. A group of mps has accused the government of making Unsubsta Ntiated Claims about the potential impact of failing to reach a brexit deal with the eu. The exiting the eu Committee Report criticised the Prime Ministers position that no deal was better than a bad deal, and called on the government to carry out an urgent impact assessment. But some of the Committee Members say the report is rushed and overly negative. Theresa may responded by saying that it is in both the uk and the eus interest to strike a good deal. Ive been very clear that i want to get the best deal possible for the uk from these negotiations with the european union. I think that would bea european union. I think that would be a good dealfor the eu. The eu itself has said it wants a good future relationship with us. I was clearing the letter i sent to Donald Tuskin clearing the letter i sent to donald tusk in triggering article 50, that if we dont get a deal, we fall back on wto arrangements for trade. I dont think that is in the interest of either side. That is why we will both be working to make sure we get the best possible deal. Researchers say they are closer to understanding why firefighters are at such a high risk of suffering heart attacks. The authors of a new study say firefighters blood becomes sticky at high temperatures and their Blood Vessels fail to relax in response to medication. Sophie hutchinson reports. Experienced firefighter Simon Mcnally used to train new recruits. It meant several times a day he was exposed to fires of almost 1000 celsius. Then one day at work he had a heart attack. I was in denial. You are hoping it is something else. You are hoping it is something else. You are hoping it is something else. You are hoping it is not going to be as sinister as a heart attack. It came asa sinister as a heart attack. It came as a bit ofa sinister as a heart attack. It came as a bit of a shock. We keep ourselves reasonably fit in the fire service. We have departed standard test every year. It was a bit confusing to be faced with those symptoms. Heart attacks are the leading cause of death for front line firefighters. Studies in america shown almost half of all firefighters who died onjudy are killed by heart problems. The new Research Carried out by Edinburgh University monitored the heart of 19 healthy firefighters during mock rescues. It found Body Temperatures rose by one celsius and remained high for a rose by one celsius and remained Highfora Up Rose by one celsius and remained high for a up to four hours afterwards. Blood pressure thats my Blood Vessels failed to react relax and the blood became stickier, forming potentially harmful clots. Scientists believe the reason was the extreme physical exertion and heat. They say simple measures like staying hydrated and breaks are vital for saving the lives of firefighters. British Scientists Say theyve created a sieve capable of removing salt from sea water. It uses a derivative of graphene, a fine sheet of carbon just one atom thick. The development, at the university of manchester, has the potential to improve access to clean drinking waterfor millions of people around the world. The Church Of England has accused cadbury and the National Trust of airbrushing faith, after it dropped the word easter from its annual easter egg hunt. The archbishop of york, john sentamu, described the decision as Spitting On The Grave ofjohn cadbury, the chocolate firms founder. The National Trust said the accusations were nonsense. This programme has had exclusive access to a pioneering neo natal unit that is trying to address the financial and emotional cost of a lengthy stay in hospital, by putting parents in charge of their newborn babies care. St James Hospital in leeds lets parents decide when to give medication, and when and how to feed their babies. They take lessons in looking after their children the moment theyre born. Nurses at the centre say the experiment as had a positive effect on patients and their families. Theresa may has defended cuts to bereaved Family Payments as fairer to taxpayers, in a week where families with a terminally ill parent could see thousands of pounds wiped off their benefits if the parent survives beyond the new rules introduced later this week. Campaigners have called the move Callous And Brutal. Later in this programme we will be speaking to allen, who is terminally ill and says the changes will cost his Family Tens Of Thousands of pounds. Prince harry is supporting a bid to rid the world of landmines by 2025, following in the footsteps of his mother diana, princess of wales. The prince will give a Keynote Speech at Kensington Palace to Mark International mine awareness day. More than 60 Million People are estimated to still live with the threat of unexploded landmines. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news. More in half an hour. We will bring you our film we will bring you ourfilm on we will bring you our film on a we will bring you ourfilm on a new way of caring for premature babies ina way of caring for premature babies in a moment. If you have a had a premature baby, how do they organise things at your Neonatal Unit . Have you felt shut out . Do what shaw film. Lets get some sport with hugh. I wonder if the fa will punish david moyes for those sexist comments to the female Sports Reporter . Good morning. That is a big question this morning for the fa. They will write to david moyes and ask him exactly what he meant by what he said to Vicki Sparkes. It happened a month ago, sorry, last month, after they match against burnley. Essentially Vicki Sparkes asked david moyes if the presence of the sunderland owner had added to pressure around his role. It is a question he clearly wasnt very happy about. I want to give you a quick listen to what was her said afterwards. Just getting a wee bit naughty at the end. Just watch yourself. You still might get a slap even though you are a woman. Careful the next time you come in. What david moyes meant by those words, we are not sure. He says he deeply regrets them. He is sorry about what he said. There are questions now over whether he should stay within football. We know football has had issues in the past around discrimination. But now david moyes future is being questioned. The fa will be asking him exactly what he meant. At the moment he will still be in the dugout for sunderland as they take on leicester this evening. It makes me wince every time i hear it. What do know about when david moyes apologised to the reporter . We know he did apologise. We know the apology was accepted. We know that he did apologise and the club apologised a day ahmad two after that match. Yesterday, speaking to the media, he reiterated that apology. It was in the heat of the moment and i deeply regret the comments i made. That is certainly not the person who i am. I accept it was a mistake. I spoke to the bbc reporter, who accepted my apology. And hopefully we all move on. David moyes and hopefully we all move on. David m oyes wa nts and hopefully we all move on. David moyes wants to move on but there is pressure over his role. Already by some of the premier league, there are real questions over whether he should be involved as the sunderland boss due to this issue. Some of the reaction . Give us a flavoured . Virtually every bag page covers a story on david moyes and whether he should be sunderland manager. The reaction has been slightly mixed to be honest. Let me explain. Match of the day host gary lineker has called the treatment inexcusable. Journalist ian herbert called Moyes A Misogynist with previous in his article for the independent yesterday. And although nobody has supported his comments, i havent seen anyone suggesting his language is appropriate. There are many within football saying its time to move on and that it wouldnt be right for him to lose hisjob given his apology was accepted. But it does add weight to the view that theres an undercurrent of discrimination in the sport. Rachel anderson from the women in Football Group thinks moyes position should be under question. He should certainly think about his position as manager because he has a big responsibility, not only to the foot ball clu b big responsibility, not only to the Football Club but to football in general. We are always being told that everybody involved in football is an ambassador. So if he is an ambassador, thats not very good. All i know is that he has apologised and that vicki, to her enormous credit, is prepared to accept that apology. Where it goes from here is if others now want to Pressurise Vicki and others feel they have to do something about it, that to me would be a great shame. That i think is wrong. A witchhunt and all of this sort of stuff, there is no need for that right now. So this is being looked at slightly different angles in terms of what should happen next. But david moyes the sunderland boss still has plenty of questions to answer as i say the fa will now write to moyes to ask for hiS Observations on the incident but if his job was on the line on the pitch, its now at risk off the pitch as well. Thank you for the moment. Your views welcome, obviously. Much more on that story throughout the programme. If your baby is born prematurely, as a parent you can often feel helpless, totally reliant on the care of nurses and doctors, fearful about the future not to mention the financial and emotional cost of a lengthy stay in hospital. Now one neo natal unit in the uk is trying to address that by putting parents in charge of their care. They decide when to give medication, and when and how to feed their babies. They take lessons in looking after their children the moment theyre born. And because parents are far more involved than they were before, nurses say the experiment in leeds has had a dramatic effect on patients and their families. And it all came about because of a cost cutting drive in the soviet union in the 19705. Nicola rees has had exclusive access to the unit at stJames Hospital. Ooh, does that tickle . Its just nice to feel like a mum instead of Somebody Just stood watching. I could feel her, so i felt safe, and she felt safe being near to me, my smell, her smell. Theres a Quiet Revolution happening in leeds. So 36. 8, thats perfect, thats in a normal range, so thats fine. You sound like a nurse ifeel like one a new project which they hope could solve massive problems and save money. Yet it seems blindingly obvious. Its not rocket science, it is such a straightforward thing to do to allow parents to look after their babies. The care is new, but the idea isnt. Dreamt up in the 19705 in the soviet union, the baby units where the parents take control. Baby lola is in the Special Care Unit at stjamess, orjimmys, hospital. Born atjust 23 weeks, with little hope. So this is lola it is. The midwife said to me that the chances of survival was really slim, and then during labour, one of the neonatal consultants came to see us. He painted a really bad picture that she could have all sorts of problems. In the Intensive Care Unit, it was terrifying. Its something that very few people get to see, i would imagine. She was absolutely tiny. She had wires coming out of everywhere. She did actually have a twin brother, but sadly he didnt survive. Shes given us something positive to focus on, i dont know how wed have coped if it wasnt for her. Lola would certainly have died but for modern medicine. Weve become much better at keeping premature babies alive, but in the past that meant keeping them away from mum. It seems hard to believe, but as recently as the 1990s, if you wanted to see your baby outside of strict visiting hours, these windows were as close as you could get. Parents of premature babies were on the outside looking in. That disconnect has lasting consequences. The Bonding Process is much harder to establish, Breast Feeding rates are much lower. And there is also a Financial Impact with car parking, meals and loss of earnings, an average stay in a Neonatal Unit can add up to well over £2,000. And then theres the psychological impact parents of premature babies are twice as likely to suffer from Postnatal Depression than those who have healthy full term pregnancies. So this Neonatal Unit atjimmys wanted to end all that, and they took a big risk to start whats called Family Integrated Care. Family integrated care aims to get the parent at the very centre of the team caring for the baby, which is really different to how neonatal care has evolved in western health care. So one of the jobs that we have to do is take a temperature, maybe every three or four hours, a simple procedure, really, just the thermometer on the wall, then just a case of going in under herarm. Parents are taught to pass nasogastric tubes and to feed their babies. Theyre taught temperature taking. Basically, everything but the most complex medical treatments. And do you know what youre looking for here then . Yeah, its got to be within a certain range, so 36. 7, thats perfect, thats in a normal range, so thats fine. So in the past, care has very much been the nurse leading it, so saying, right, its feed time, its bad time, whereas now it is very much the parents that are leading that they will feed the baby when the baby needs feeding, rather than when the clock says its feed time, and thats much betterfor the baby. Hello, Beautiful Girl she looks really well. Shes doing really well. And shes putting on weight . Katie had daughter molly eight weeks early. They had to get her out quite urgently and it was a little bit of a shock, my partner wasnt really prepared. She wasnt breathing properly to start off with, so that is why they pretty much took her straightaway, but when i first went to see her, she was attached to like a cpap machine which was helping her breathe. While im here, i pretty much do everything that a normal mum would do, just confined to a cot. Everything from feeding to medicine, cleaning, bathing. Do you get how much of an idea the nurses feel about handing over the control to you . Has there been any resistance, or are they all pretty happy . No, certain things, like the tube feeding, they obviously watch over you quite a bit to start with, because it needs to be done right. Things like this temperature, its not as vital, so they like to make sure that they know what youre doing, they dont just leave you to it. And this is just one of dozens ofjobs that you have to do for lola every day. Absolutely, yeah. Washing and cleaning. Weighing and. A full timejob. Absolutely, yeah, yeah. I enjoy it, though. You wouldnt change it . Not at all, no. Its a total Culture Shift to help parents bond with their babies earlier, get the idea is 40 years old. Tallinn, estonia, in the former soviet union. The head of the local Neonatal Department had a big problem too many patients and not enough nurses. Dr adik levin came up with a pretty basic solution. The idea came because of the nursing crisis. My idea was that mother must be a member of ourteam. It is logical. Why the healthy baby in Maternity Ward stay with the mother . And why the premature baby must be separated . It was, for me, absolutely non logical. But he was going against the entire soviet medical system. In soviet union it was written that mother is dangerous for the baby, that mother can be the person who bring infection to the baby, understand . Translation mother is not a bystander anymore but has an active role in the healing process. Giving nursing jobs to the mothers was a massive success, though. The doctor has allowed the introduction of skin to skin contact. While lying on mothers breast, he receives fresh breastmilk. Hed achieved better Breast Feeding rates, shorter hospital stays, healthier babies. We hope that this experience can be taken over by people from other countries, as this kind of medicine is not only humane but also much more inexpensive. But it took 30 years for a hospital in canada to cotton on australia, new zealand, and eventually leeds. Why on earth has it taken you so long to introduce something that is, essentially, fundamental parents caring for their babies . I dont know is the honest answer. I think if you look back through the history of neonatal care, i think with advances in technology, and the recognition of the importance of infection control, that has led to the gradual separation of the premature baby from the parents, and things have just evolved from there. Nursing numbers here havent changed, but now they are mentors. Today katie is tube feeding molly. Ok, so were looking for a ph of 1 5. Steady hands to feed it up her nose and into her stomach. Being around it and watching it has made me more confident when ive come to be doing it, and then they help you every little step. It has been a major culture change. Certainly, there has been anxiety amongst the nursing staff. I think its having to let go and realise that, actually, the parents will be perfectly safe doing it. Instead of nurses providing the direct care, this is supporting the families to provide direct care. And, traditionally, nursing, you are the caregiver. And be honest, were you concerned that it was a cost cutting measure or that there was an element of that . No. Never . No, because i think, initially, it isnt really a cost cutting measure, because it takes a lot more time to get the parents competent. But could it also work for the most poorly babies . Theyre rolling out the project in the Intensive Care Unit in the sister hospital. The stakes are higher here its life and death, and parents currently have a less hands on experience. Its where lola was first treated. How involved were you able to be at the other hospital . Not much at all to start with you could put hands in the incubator and just touch her on her head, but that was as far as it went. It was nine days before she could come out and be held, but then youve got ventilators taped to you, youre just terrified of moving, and also terrified of holding her. You know, what should be a really magical moment which it was was also really, really scary. But when its safe, they do already encourage skin to skin bonding in Intensive Care. Id been begging for days to hold her, but because of her breathing, they delayed it and delayed it and delayed it. When i did, they said i could hold herfor about an hour, and then i was able to cuddle her under my clothes. I could feel her, so i felt safe, and she felt safe, being near to me, my smell, her smell. Just really emotional, its an emotion that you dont prepare yourself for. She did so well that i ended up having eight hours because her breathing got so much better. So i got eight hours of bonding, and she got eight hours of being very well, and she progressed so. Do you feel better prepared now for home . Definitely, yeah. When might you go home . Tomorrow. And i cant wait so what have we got here, have we got everything . Yes. Youve got all my medicines and everything, so dont lose them take care. Thank you. Keep in touch with us. I will do, i will do. How much of a difference has it made, this place . A lot, ive got a lot of thanks to give when i leave. Nobody wants to stop it, its definitely here to stay. Everybody can see the benefits of it. Theyre getting home sooner, the Long Term Development is improving, weve got increasing Breast Feeding rates. The fact is is that families are going home more confident and more able to care for their babies, and that means a lot. She was 37 weeks and five days when we came home they told us to expect her home on her due date, which was 3rd april. Without the Family Integrated Care, wed have been in a lot longer. Shes on oxygen still they wouldnt have allowed us to come home with that. Shes still on a lot of medication that we have to give her. I feel really confident in everything that theyve told us, im really grateful. I love her, shes perfect, absolutely amazing yeah, shes my little miracle. You are, arent you . In the next hour well meet the doctor whos pioneered this approach, and a mum who gave birth prematurely. A tweet which says, thanks for the report on premature care on your programme. I was born 14 weeks early at st georges and my parents received great support and care. Still to come, Government Support for widowed parents is being cut later this week. Well be finding out what this means for people who receive the allowance. David moyes says he regrets talking about slapping a female reporter. Is his apology enough . Zblud should that be the end of the matter . Joanna is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. The man suspected of killing 11 people by bombing a St Petersburg train, is a native of kyrgyzstan who obtained russian citizenship, according to Security Services. 49 people were injured in the explosion between two underground stations yesterday afternoon. Three days of mourning have begun. A group of mps has accused the government of making Unsubsta Ntiated Claims about the potential impact of failing to reach a brexit deal with the eu. The exiting the eu Committee Report criticised the Prime Ministers position that no deal was better than a bad deal, and called on the government to carry out an urgent impact assessment. But six pro brexit mps on the Committee Members voted against the report, saying it was too gloomy. Theresa may responded by saying that it is in both the uk and the eus interest to strike a good deal. Im confident that we can get a good deal with the european union. It will be good for them as they acknowledged. Theresa may has defended cuts to bereaved Family Payments as fairer to taxpayers. Until now, families have received regular payments for up to 20 years. But under the new system, the government will pay a larger initial lump sum, but regular payments will stop after 18 months. Campaigners have called the move Callous And Brutal. Later in this programme we will be speaking to alan, who is terminally ill and says the changes will cost his Family Tens Of Thousands of pounds. Prince harry is supporting a bid to rid the world of landmines by 2025, following in the footsteps of his mother diana, princess of wales. The prince will give a Keynote Speech at Kensington Palace to Mark International mine awareness day. More than 60 Million People are estimated to still live with the threat of unexploded landmines. North wales police paid a phone bill of more than £44,000 for a mobile which was given to a burglar on bail. The phone was given to the offender by the police as part of a project to reinterrogate criminals into the community. North wales police says no disciplinary action has been taken against any member of the staff, but the force has since reviewed its Mobile Phone Policy. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news. More in half an hour. Heres some sport with hugh. Lots of comments. The comment made by david moyes has been blown out of proportion. It sounded like playful banter. Norma says, what a fuss about nothing. As a woman i fail to see how this was sexist. And i am a Newcastle Supporter richard says, what is happening to this country . A light hearted, throwaway comment blown out of proportion by the pointless bbc. And choke says, i didnt know we were looking for ways to get david moyes sacked. A brief review of his position in the league table should be enough. I think some of those comments are symptomatic of what we have seen. Some people saying it is time to move on. Some people saying, should the manager of a Football Club really making statements like that . There are Question Marks over whether david moyes is fit to leave leads sunderland. He told a female reporter that she might get a slap. He is likely to face an enquiry after the fa astroS Observations over the comment he made last month. Moyes said he deeply regrets the incident. Chelsea forward any luco says the england manager is sending out a dangerous message by not picking players based on form. Luco was left out of the squad for the european championships despite finishing top scorer in the premier league. The best players in the world will not be competing at the world will not be competing at the winter olympics. The United States will not let players go to the games because the owners of the clu bs the games because the owners of the clubs do not want to interrupt their season. I am clubs do not want to interrupt their season. Iam back clubs do not want to interrupt their season. I am back with morejust after ten. Callous and brutal is how major changes to benefits for bereaved spouses have been described by campaigners. From thursday, the old widowed parents allowance is being replaced by a new Bereavement Support Payment. Instead of getting a one off tax free lump sum of £2,000, followed by £5,852 a year before tax for up to 20 years, depending on their childs age, bereaved parents will receive tax free payments ofjust £9,800 in total, spread over only 18 months. Theresa may says the new system, which applies to new applicants only, is fairer. Lets speak to katy maw, who was widowed 13 years ago, when her husband died in a motorbike accident. She had two Young Children. And labour mp alex cunningham, who is shadow work and Pensions Minister labour say they would reverse the changes if elected. Welcome. How did those regular payments over many years help to support you and your one year old and three Year Old Girl . Support you and your one year old and threeyearold girl . It was a lifeline. It meant that whatever happened to me during the day, whether i spent all day on the Kitchen Floor was out trying to find work, i had the flexibility to know i could feed my kids at the end of the month and pay some bills. It was a total support. And after 18 months, i look back now, it is absolutely ludicrous to think that anybody would be in a position to have got their lives together, sorted, to be able to support their children and themselves, financially and emotionally, without that lifeline. You have now given up those payments because you are engaged to be married. Congratulations. Can you imagine what it would be like for anyone widowed after thursday, who will get a higher lump sum to start with, but the weekly payments of £112. After 18 months . It is important to make the point that that lump sum payment, which was £2000, is to cover funeral payment, which was £2000, is to cover fu neral costs, payment, which was £2000, is to cover funeral costs, which i payment, which was £2000, is to coverfuneral costs, which i believe an average is about £4000. So we can disregard that. That is paying for something that is in my experience, something that is in my experience, something i didnt know i would have to pay for. You are now looking for a Monthly Payment after that. I am horrified and i am terrified for anybody faced with what i had to face. Knowing that you have a deadline. It is a race that you are in that you dont even want to be m, in that you dont even want to be in, the idea that you can be in employment that is going to pay, cover perhaps what was two incomes coming in, or even one, and be there to ta ke coming in, or even one, and be there to take your kids to school, pick them up, be there for them during them up, be there for them during the day, you are everything. You need that little bit of support. By the way, you have already paid for it. My husband paid National Insurance on to and into a State Pension system, and i paid my National Insurance. Why would it have to stop after 18 months . What is your reaction to the decision to change this . Im horrified. It shows a complete lack of imagination and humanity on the part of the government. I dont know the mps who put it through, if they had at that might have had personal experience, or if it is an easy cut to make. A lot of people dont know it exists. You only know it exists when it happens to you. That is why nobody has fought for it. They have that charities, bereavement counsellors, everybody who has had experience, and knows what it is like, telling them, this is horrific. They have ignored it. I will come back to you ina ignored it. I will come back to you in a moment. I want to bring in alex cunningham, a labourmp. In a moment. I want to bring in alex cunningham, a labour mp. You say these changes will save the treasury £100 million. The government says it is not an austerity measure, it is about updating an Old Fashioned system which does not reflect peoples lives today . The system may need updating but it doesnt mean taking where this vital support. I met a young boy, an eight year old, a few weeks ago, and he was campaigning for the retention of these allowances. He was talking about the fact his mum was a teacher, managed to get back into work after two and a half years, but nowadays she can still get away in ple nty of nowadays she can still get away in plenty of time to taken to school are pickin up. He said she can also talk to his teacher when he is having a sad day and understand the problems he is going through. The support is vital for teachers and widows or widowers. And anybody receiving it at the moment will continue to receive it under the old terms. It is from this thursday things will change. The government also say it is tax free, it doesnt affect the amount received from other benefits. So families can access wider welfare support, they say . Lets be clear. The taxfree payment every month is probably equivalent to the £112 a week which is taxable, which they receive at the moment. That is only for 18 months. If it had not been for the select committee in the house of commons, the government would have cut that after 12 months. Clearly there focuses on saving money and not on the people who need support. It is part of the governments £12 billion savings. They have a mandate for according the welfare bill, dont they . They certainly have a mandate. But this is about Political Choices. Our Political Choice would be to protect the most vulnerable, not actually take the money away. If we can afford to pay millionaires, people who earn millions of pounds every year, if we can afford to give them tax cuts, we cannot afford to look after people going through the most vulnerable period in their lives. We can afford. Most vulnerable period in their lives. We can afford. Where would you find the money from if labour we re you find the money from if labour were elected . This is about Political Choices. We dont think it is necessary to do this. We look at the huge cuts being made in Corporation Tax. We are looking at the cuts given to millionaires. I think there is plenty of flexibility to find this £100 billion a year. You are talking about Corporation Tax cuts that this government has made . No, the government, two or three years ago, cut the higher rate of tax for people over a certain p5y~ of tax for people over a certain pay. They were paying 10 less tax. I think if we could reinstate that, it would go a long way, if not more than cover the money that is needed to ensure widows and children get the support they need. The Prime Minister was asked about this. She is on minister was asked about this. She isona minister was asked about this. She is on a foreign trip. She says, we need to ensure we have a system which is fair to people who require this help and support, but obviously also is fair to taxpayers. Im a taxpayer and so was my husband. He has played into that system. Ijust feel terribly sorry for people who will face this. They dont know who they are, generally. For example, if i may, there is a friend of mine who lost her husband to cancer last year. Within three months, she was diagnosed as with breast cancer, she had a mastectomy, she has two children. It is coming to the 18 month bracket. What would theresa may say to her . What she would say is, she will be all right because she is under the old system. It is new claimants from thursday. This is one story. For those women pregnant when they lose their husbands. I dont quite understand, we are still paying National Insurance, we are still having children, parents are still having children, parents are still dying. That system hasnt changed. Why are we being punished for that . I understand it is a quarter of 8 of people it will affect. The most vulnerable. At the most full verbal time when they are not employable. And if i may add, ten yea rs not employable. And if i may add, Ten Years After the event of losing my husband, im diagnosed with Post Traumatic because i was having to deal with my childrens grief and my grief, i grieved for my husbands loss. I carried on as best i could andi loss. I carried on as best i could and i worked. But that money, i was entitled to it, but also it was a comfort. But grief doesnt go away. 18 months is not a cut off point where you get over it. You never get over it. You evolve and you change it to the person you are because it has happened. And things change. As my children get older, they needs are different. That is why the payment has to continue after 18 months. What has been the impact on you . At the time your husband died, your little girls were one and three. She wasnt even one. I hope they are all right. I hope i have managed to show them. I have worked. But i have also been available to them. I want them to look back and think that i did manage as best i could and that i wasnt flaky and i wasnt all over the place. And i showed them good values. I have worked and they have also been there for them. The idea that after 18 months, i would have been having to work certain hours, i could not have worked from nine to three. I wouldnt have been around. It wouldve been somebody elses responsibility. We dont live in the kinds of communities we used to live in where we had everywhere. My mother was a 70 mile round trip away. My brother lived on the other side of london. They are not on the doorstep. And says, my friends husband was told two weeks ago he was being made redundant. A week ago he was told he was terminally ill. His wife had Brain Surgery two years ago. The change to the widowed pa rent ago. The change to the widowed parent allowance is indeed Callous And Brutal. It is completely unfair and brutal. It is completely unfair and not reflective of the needs of families struggling to come to terms with the most awful circumstances. This is not how a civilised society works. I would agree with that. And this one says, dad died when i was 11. If it hadnt been for the widows pension, mum and i would have been on the streets. Thank you very much for coming on the programme. Thank you for having me. Thank you to alex cunningham. After 10am, well get reaction from a terminally ill man who has just weeks to live. We older children in the uk is expensive. Have a look how one school in london is trying to get around the costs. Im digging for worms i really like them i probably wouldnt have childcare until they went to a free school nursery, because i wouldnt be able to afford like a normal private nursery. Do you like it when i work here . Do you like it when i cook the food . Do you . Who makes the yummiest food . You. Any sort of member of staff that are willing to be overseen by parents 24 7 has got to be something special. Its significantly cheaper, its like only like 260 quid a month. Otherwise, it would be at least £1000 a month for like a part time place. If your child comes every day, then you have to work here one day a week. Its really nice to see, we see everyones triumphs and challenges, and and you just realise that your chart is normal. No, no, im counting. No, im counting. Just do one at a time, look. Show us. Im going to do all of the counting. One, two. You see everyone at their best and everyone at their worst, and that is actually really comforting as a parent, that you dont normally get to see behind the scenes of everyone elses parenting. Its mine. Its not your birthday. Its my birthday soon. Soon, yeah. You train on the job, but you have a lot to read, and then youre carefully shadowing people. You learn a massive amount about childcare, you immediately learn on the spot with regards to the work you do with other children and your own child. You do an Activity Shift with the children, where youre expected to be with the children, interacting. We cant have them just sitting around on their shifts and not being interested in the children. If theyre not interested, we will take up the challenge with them and find ways of getting them involved. Not every persons role is exactly the same. I like it when mum is at nursery. One solution in london. In the last half hour it has emerged that North Wales Police paid a phone bill of over £40,000 for a mobile which had been given to a burglar on bail. Our Reporterjenny Rees is in cardiff and can tell us more. Why . Well, it is fairly standard, it seems for this particular project that Mobile Phones would be given to people. Generally it was things like if it was a victim of Domestic Violence or perhaps wanting to keep in touch with the police they would wa nt in touch with the police they would want criminals who were needing to be reintegrated back into the community to reduce re offending would be given Mobile Phones. Normally they would be given a pay as you go, but in this case, by mistake they were given a contract phone. The bills were being paid, but they knocked up a bill of £44,500. Mistake was only realised in 2014. They found three people may have had access to the phone. They dont know how £44,500 was run up as pa rt dont know how £44,500 was run up as part of that. Two people were arrested, but they didnt have enough evidence to press charges on them. No disciplinary action has been taken against any members of the police force either. It has come to light after a Freedom Of Information Request went in and the force say they have reviewed the Mobile Phone Policy since then, and only pay as you go phone sims are given out and rules have been made clear as to how the phones should be used. There are so many questions that still need answering, i suspect we dont have the information yet, it will drip out over the coming hours. Thank you very much, jenny. Who are you ringing to get a bill for £44,000 . 0h who are you ringing to get a bill for £44,000 . Oh my goodness sunderland manager david moyes has been asked to explain himself to the fa after he told a bbc reporter she might get a slap. Just getting a wee bit naughty at the end there so just watch yourself or you still might get a slap even though youre a woman. Careful the next time you come in. The reporter asked him if he felt under pressure because the owner was in the stands and on camera he said, no, not at all. When he thought the camera was turned off that the following conversation ensued. The sunderland manager now says he deeply regrets the incident and that hes phoned the reporter vicki sparks to apologise. It was in the heat of the moment and i deeply regret the comments i made. Its certainly not the person who i am and i accept it was a mistake. I spoke to the bbc reporter who accepted my apology and hopefully we will all move on. Gary lineker tweeted, Moyes Incident highlights a tendency for some managers to treat interviewers with utter disdain. Pressured job. Well rewarded. Inexcusable. With me now is martha kelner, Sports Writer for the daily mail. Jane moran is a sunderland season ticket holder. Martha, is it a Sackable Offence . Im not sure he should lose hisjob over it. I think id like to make that clear, but its something that deserves talking about. He should be pushed further on it. Because even watching it, you know, several times asi watching it, you know, several times as i have done now, it makes me feel uncomfortable. I think the language isa uncomfortable. I think the language is a little bit sinister. I dont think he would have treated a male reporter with the same disdain. I think he was abusing his position as a respected manager in that powerful interviewer, you know, interview manager situation. I think it was inappropriate and i think its right that hes getting asked to explain his actions. Jane, hello. Hi victoria. Should the fa punish him or has he done enough . victoria. Should the fa punish him or has he done enough . I dont think he should be punished. A lot of sunderland supporters, there is a great debate going on on the Message Board about whether he was right or wrong, but a lot more sunderland fans are disappointed about his comments on the pitch than the comments on the pitch than the comments performance comments on the pitch than the comments performance on comments on the pitch than the comments performance on the pitch than the comments to the reporter. Do you think he would have said that toa do you think he would have said that to a male reporter . I dont think he would have. It has been blown out of proportion and the outrage over it isjust well beyond proportion and the outrage over it is just well beyond what it deserves. But he was, there was a veiled threat. There was a warning, dont be asking questions like that the next time you come back . L veiled threat that she has accepted an apology for. Sew thats all right . Im not saying its all right, but the person who was supposedly offended has accepted the apology and yet, you know, the outrage goes on. Thats a really good point, isnt it, vicky sparks has accepted that apology. It means amongst other things she will be able to go to sunderland and report on itand able to go to sunderland and report on it and ask questions of the manager . I thud you sort of answered the question yourself there. She is ina the question yourself there. She is in a difficult situation, i dont wa nt to in a difficult situation, i dont want to speak for her, but herjob depends on being able to go to those post match Press Conferences and have that debate with david moyes in the future so she is in a tricky situation. I actually feel sorry for her that she has been caught up in this storm, but i do think its a good thing that were talking about it because i think it shows the changing of the tide with sexism in football and whats acceptable because in the past managers have been able to get away with these comments towards women that make them feel isolated. In a job where they probably are only one or two women in a room full of men on a week to week basis. It was six years ago that skys presenters richard keys and andy gray made the sexist comments towards a female lines woman and they paid for it with theirjobs. It was ten years ago that the luton town manager had this to say about a female assistant referee. She shouldnt be here, i know that sounds sexist, but i am sexist. He was fined £6500. The fa asked for david moyeS Observations, but should they do anything, is his apology and an explanation enough . The fact that were talking about is it is enough. I think its a warning not only to him, that he needs to modify his behaviour, but also to other managers who might treat female reporters like that in the future. Damned by his own language perhaps. You cover various different sports, a lot of athletics, have you been in a lot of athletics, have you been in a situation where you have been treated dimply because youre a female reporter . I think it happens less in athletics because there are more female reporters, but in football i dont think there has been a chief football writer, there is only one female Sports Editor on fleet street. The daily mail. The mail on sunday. Sorry. You dont get it as much in athletics, but in football more so. I have never had a manager say anything to me like, you might get a slap. Ive had managers say things like, ill watch my language around the lady. It emphasises your otherness and makes you feel on edge. Yeah. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Bear with me. Sorry. Since this was updated it takes me long tore get into this tablet would you believe . This is about the changes to Bereavement Allowance which come in on thursday and it is an e mail from helen, i lost my husband five years ago and helen, i lost my husband five years ago and i do get this benefit. I feel shocked about these parents losing this lifeline. We are hit so hard. Im a working mum and i had much higher childcare costs. The current benefit is taxable and what is awful is that i have one income and therefore, one Tax Allowance so i already lose so much money as well as not having my darling, husband. Im going to talk more about the changes to those Bereavement Allowa Nces changes to those Bereavement Allowances after 10am. Your own experiences really welcome. Do get in touch in the usual ways. You can e mailand in touch in the usual ways. You can e mail and you in touch in the usual ways. You can e mailand you can in touch in the usual ways. You can e mail and you can tweet using the Hashtag Victoria Live and there is whatsapp and text and the usual. Now the weather with carol. Some of us had a milder start and others have had a fresher start. Were looking at bright spells, sunshine, notjust were looking at bright spells, sunshine, not just this were looking at bright spells, sunshine, notjust this morning, into the afternoon well have that and feeling that wee bit fresh you are than yesterday. Yesterdays top temperatures hit 18 celsius in cambridge and gravesend. Today, we might see 17 celsius in cardiff. Now, High Pressure is firmly this charge of our weather at the momentment we have got a Weather Front Citizenshipinging South Producing Cloud And Rain and if you notice the squeeze on the ice owe barks it will continue to increase in strength, the wind that is, particularly so across the Northern Isles where we are looking at gales and did severe gales. At the other end of the country, we lose the patchy rain, it is replaced by showers, but look how it brightens up showers, but look how it brightens upfor showers, but look how it brightens up for most with sunshine. So this afternoon across south west england, you can expect sunshine. A bit more cloud as we push through south devon and into somerset, but through gloucestershire, bright spells and through much of wales, were looking at sunshine with highs of ten celsius, in aberystwyth. For northern ireland, bright spells of sunshine will be the order of the day for you and still one or two showers flirting with the west coast of scotland. Most of the showers will be across the far north, especially the Northern Isles where it will feel cold in the wind. Eastern scotland seeing sunshine and as we cross Northern England down to the north midlands and the wash were back into bright or sunny skies. For east anglia, essex and kent, and towards the isle of wight, there is more cloud and that cloud is thick enough to be producing the odd shower. There goes that cloud, leaving clear skies for england and wales, more cloud at times with showers for scotland and northern ireland. Still windy in the far north. Temperatures four to seven or eight in towns and cities, but lower than that in the countryside. Roughly one to three celsius. Premium bond areas in the countryside will see frost under the clear skies, but under the clear skies tomorrow, we are awe off to a sunny start. Tomorrow, there will be some cloud dotted around, but it will still be bright. Some of us will still be bright. Some of us will see sunny spells and it will be breezy. Still quite windy across the Northern Isles. Just not as windy as it will be later today or tonight. Temperatures eight celsius in the north to highs of 13 or 14 celsius as we push down towards the south. After a killy start on thursday, again, were looking at that a mixture of bright spells, sunshine, a few showers coming in across the west and temperatures between ten and 15 celsius. But the weather remains settled into the weekend. Hello, its tuesday, april 4. Im victoria derbyshire. Weve been given exclusive access to a neo natal unit in leeds, with a pioneering approach to caring for premature babies. It is such a straightforward thing to do, to allow parents to look after their babies. The fact is that families are going home more confident and more able to look after their babies, and that means a lot. Lots of you getting in touch on this. The government is cutting the amount of money that widowed parents receive. One parent who previously relied on the allowance told this programme what she thought of the new measures. Its absolutely ludicrous to think that anybody would be in a position to have got their lives together, sorted, to be able to support their children and themselves, financially and emotionally, without that lifeline. Prince harry is following in his mothers footsteps by campaigning to rid the world of landmines. Well be asking what needs to be done to achieve that goal. Good morning. Heres joanna with a summary of todays news. The number of People Killed in yesterdays bomb attack on the St Petersburg metro has risen to 14, according to russias health ministry. The Man Investigators now suspect of carrying out the attack, is a native of kyrgyzstan who obtained russian citizenship. 50 people were injured in the explosion between two underground stations yesterday afternoon. Three days of mourning have begun. A group of mps are challenging the government to prove that no deal is better than a bad deal when ridden leaves the european union. The exiting the eu Committee Report criticised the Prime Ministers position that no deal was better than a bad deal, and called on the government to carry out an urgent impact assessment. But six pro brexit mps on the Committee Members voted against the report, saying it was too gloomy. Theresa may responded by saying that it is in both the uk and the eus interest to strike a good deal. I have been very clear that i want to get the best deal possible for the uk from these negotiations with the uk from these negotiations with the european union. I think that would be a good dealfor the eu. The eu themselves want that. I was clearing the letter i sent to donald tusk in triggering article 50, that if we dont get a deal, we fall back on wto arrangements for trade. I dont think that is in the interest of either side. That is why we will both be working to make sure we get the best possible deal. British Scientists Say theyve created a sieve capable of removing salt from sea water. It uses a derivative of graphene, a fine sheet of carbon just one atom thick. The development, at the university of manchester, has the potential to improve access to clean drinking waterfor millions of people around the world. This programme has had exclusive access to a pioneering neo natal unit that is trying to address the financial and emotional cost of a lengthy stay in hospital, by putting parents in charge of their newborn babies care. St James Hospital in leeds lets parents decide when to give medication, and when and how to feed their babies. They take lessons in looking after their children the moment theyre born. Nurses at the centre say the experiment has had a positive effect on patients and their families. Theresa may has defended cuts to bereaved Family Payments as fairer to taxpayers. Until now, families have received regular payments for up to 20 years. But under the new system, the government will pay a larger initial lump sum, but regular payments will stop after 18 months. Campaigners have called the move Callous And Brutal. Later in this programme we will be speaking to alan, who is terminally ill and says the changes will cost his Family Tens Of Thousands of pounds. Prince harry is supporting a bid to rid the world of landmines by 2025, following in the footsteps of his mother diana, princess of wales. The prince will give a Keynote Speech at Kensington Palace to Mark International mine awareness day. More than 60 Million People are estimated to still live with the threat of unexploded landmines. Its emerged that North Wales Police has paid a phone bill of over £44,000 for a mobile which had been given to a burglar on bail. The phone had been given to the offender by the police as part of a project to reintegrate criminals into the community. North wales police says no disciplinary action has been taken against any member of staff but the force has since reviewed its Mobile Phone Policy. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news more at 10. 30. Latest sport. Good morning. There are further questions for david moyes to answer today. The Football Association will ask ray S Observations of an incident in which he told a female reporters she may get a slap. Moyes will be in the dugout this evening against leicester but he could face sanctions. He told media yesterday he deeply regrets his commons, which have stirred debate over his future. He needs to think about his position as manager because he has a big responsibility, not only to the Football Club, but football in general. We are always been told that everybody involved in football is an ambassador. If he is an ambassador, that is not very good. Chelsea forward any luco has said the england coach mark sampson is setting a dangerous message by not selecting players baked on form. She was left out of the euro 2017 squad despite ending the season as top scorer in the womens super league. It is more surprising given that england have failed to score in four the last five games. Mark simpson has publicly said he doesnt pick on form. The other criteria is clearly based on popularity. I think he has spoken about Team Dynamics and character. The message and values the england tea m the message and values the england team represents should be about hard work, should be about putting your best foot forward every single day to perform and get your reward is fred. The message it is sending out is that if you are popular with the manager, you get into the team. You dont have to perform to get into the team. That is a dangerous message to send out to particularly young people looking at being an squad aspiring to be in it. The best Ice Hockey Players in the world will be appearing in next yea rs world will be appearing in next years winter olympics. The us Ice Hockey League will not allow players to go to the games because the owners of the bigger clubs do not wa nt to owners of the bigger clubs do not want to interrupt the season. The International Olympic committee have released a statement, saying they feel sorry for the athletes, pointing out they offered the same conditions as in the previous olympic games. That wont be the end of that. Nor are today for the fa and david moyes. They are looking into his allegedly sexist comments to a female you. Reporter. Having a premature baby can leave parents feeling shocked, confused, abandoned, powerless and even guilty. The treadmill of daily Hospital Visits can grind mums and dads down, and lead to a sense of helplessness. But one neo natal unit in leeds is trialling a new approach which hands back control to parents. They decide when to give medication, and when and how to feed their babies. They take lessons in looking after their children the moment theyre born. And because parents are far more involved than they were before, nurses say the experiment in leeds has had a dramatic effect on patients and their families. Nicola rees has had exclusive access to the unit at stJames Hospital in leeds. We bought you her full report earlier heres a short extract. Baby lola is in the Special Care Unit at stjamess, orjimmys, hospital. Born atjust 23 weeks, her chances of survival were slim. During labour, one of the neonatal consultants came to see us, he painted a really bad picture that she could have all sorts of problems. In the Intensive Care Unit, it was terrifying. Its something that very few people get to see, i would imagine. She was absolutely tiny, she had wires coming out of everywhere. She did actually have a twin brother, but sadly he didnt survive. Shes given us something positive to focus on, i dont know how wed have coped if it wasnt for her. But as soon as she left Intensive Care, mum anna took over from the nurses. One of the jobs we have to do is take a temperature, maybe every three or four hours, a simple procedure, really, just the thermometer on the wall, then just a case of going in under herarm. St jamess hospital was the first in the uk to introduce whats called Family Integrated Care. Family integrated care aims to get the parent at the very centre of the team caring for the baby. Parents are taught to pass nasogastric tubes and to feed their babies. Theyre taught temperature taking. Basically, everything but the most complex medical treatments. And do you know what youre looking for here . Yeah, its got to be within a certain range. But the idea is not new. Family integrated care was introduced in the former soviet union in the 19705. Then it was a solution to a shortage of nurses. Here in leeds, they say its not. And be honest, were you concerned that it was a cost cutting measure or that there was an element of that . No. Never . No, because i think, initially, it isnt really a cost cutting measure, because it takes a lot more time to get the parents competent. The problems of having a premature baby are well known the Bonding Process is much harder to establish, Breast Feeding rates are much lower. And there is also a Financial Impact with car parking, meals and loss of earnings, an average stay in a Neonatal Unit costs families well over £2000. And then theres the psychological impact parents of premature babies are twice as likely to suffer from Postnatal Depression. Than those who have healthy full term pregnancies. Its not rocket science, its such a straightforward thing to do, to allow parents to look after their babies. The fact is is that families are going home more confident and more able to care for their babies, and that means a lot. For anna, it meant bringing her baby home weeks earlier than expected. I love her, shes perfect, absolutely amazing. Yeah, shes my little miracle. You are, arent you . Thank you for your lovely comments. Debbie says, my daughter had twins born at 32 weeks. We looked after them in the hospital. We fed them, we changed them, took their temperature etc. Susan says her granddaughter was born eight weeks early. It was about a week before my daughter got near her. Emma says she had her son had 31 weeks. She had to be transferred to another hospital 13 miles from where she lived because there was no room in a special baby unit. Doctors showed them what to do. When they got transferred back to the hospital near to where they lived, there were shown the same things. Here to tell us more about this new approach is dr liz mckechnie, consultant neo natologist at the leeds infirmary. Sarah miles, who gave birth prematurely to twins in 2011, and felt left out of her babies care. Doreen crawford, who worked as a nurse in premature baby care for 30 years, and dr karel obrien from the Mount Sinai Hospital in canada. It was the First Western hospital to find out about Family Integrated Care and implement it. We can also speak to one of our viewers, leah. She hasjust run off. Her sons were born prematurely at 30 weeks in august 20 15. Look at those photographs. Absolutely lovely. Doctor, let me begin with you. You brought this in two years ago. Youre about to bring it into the Intensive Care Unit. We have seen in the film a little about what this means. How different is it to how it used to be done . I think it is formalising and giving a structured to the way that we have cared for babies for many years. It is the natural role of the nurse to teach the parents how to look after their premature baby. This takes it one step further because the nurses educate and coach the parents to becoming the primary caregiver for their baby, so they are the core member of the team looking after their baby. You had some experience of being left out of a loved ones ca re of being left out of a loved ones care with your own mum . of being left out of a loved ones care with your own mum . I did. I had a traumatic year with my mother being in hospital and subsequently dying, and my husband having an accident and being in hospital. It made me see things from the other side of the sheets and how important it is, how essential it is to have the family on board with the patients care. The family on board with the patients care. What were the concerns from nurses initially . That we we re concerns from nurses initially . That we were trying to get rid of them, that it was a cost cutting measure. There were worried about the legal status of their registration and things. We convinced some nurses before we started that that wasnt the case. And others have subsequently realised, once they have seen Family Integrated Care, that that is not the case. Im going to bring in leah now, because i think one of her boys is needing her attention. Is that excel at alexander or zachary . This is alexander. Tell us about the experience you had when your twins we re experience you had when your twins were born prematurely . There were born at 30 weeks, ten weeks premature, at saint mary St Marys Hospital in paddington. It was spontaneous. Marys hospital in paddington. It was spontaneous. Obviously not planned labour that early. They were in Intensive Care for two days in an incubator. Then they were downgraded to special care. We we re we were fortunate enough to be in the new Special Care Uin the at St Marys Hospital so they had some pa re nt marys hospital so they had some parent bedrooms so we could live actually in the hospital 24 7 like a little hotel. Were you involved in caring for your boys . Yes. We were fully involved. They couldnt breastfeed initially so they had to learn how to do that. So we were feeding them through Feeding Tubes, giving medicine through the Feeding Tubes as well, changing nappies, and bathing them as well. Pretty much like you would with a newborn baby. So you were able to bond, clearly, you were able to bond, you can see you were able to bond, you can see you both now. Yes. Yes, it was a very important time actually for bonding because as another lady mentioned before the skin to skin contact, it is really important especially for premature babies when they cant actually breastfeed. Initially they need to have that skin contact. 0k. Initially they need to have that skin contact. Ok. Im going to do what my other half used to when he was on a trip abroad and i would have a young child and the child would be playing up while hed ring me and he would say, i can hear youre busy. It used to wind me up im going to do the same with you. Alexander may need your attention. I appreciate your contribution. Yes, he has had enough and i dont blame him let me bring in carol obrien. Yours was the First Western hospital to bring this in. Tell me how you came across what they were doing in estonia . We went to visit in estonia to see what they were doing in march 2010. Thats where we got an idea of what they were doing and the challenge was how to translate that toa challenge was how to translate that to a North American environment and a canadian environment. Is it that different . Well, it was very different . Well, it was very different at the time i would say to what we were doing in north america where parents were still seen as visitors and you know, could visit the Nico At Visiting Times and had to ask permission from the nurse to ta ke to ask permission from the nurse to take care of their baby and now weve changed that par dime where pa rents a re weve changed that par dime where parents are not seen as visitors any longer. They have full access to their baby and the focus is on coaching the parents to be parents and to include them as early as possible in their babys care. 0k, and to include them as early as possible in their babys care. Ok, i wa nt to possible in their babys care. Ok, i want to bring in sarah. Sarah your twins were premature, they were born at 28 weeks. And you did not feel enough involved in their care. What was that like . At the beginning, it was that like . At the beginning, it was very difficult. Eva was transferred to a different hospital so transferred to a different hospital soi transferred to a different hospital so i had to stay in Queen Charlottes hospital with charlotte for five days before i was able to see eva so that was very difficult. Eva was in fare so it was two weeks before i was able to hold her. At the beginning certainly i felt very much like a visitor and an on looker andl much like a visitor and an on looker and i felt scared to be, i didnt wa nt and i felt scared to be, i didnt want to harm my baby. I thought the medical, they know best, i willjust stand back and let Everybody Else Ta Ke Stand Back and let Everybody Else take over. I think a will the of parents feel they are not really your babiment they belong somehow to the hospital because youre not able to look after them. And eva was very sick. She was in Intensive Care and charlotte in high dependency. I had the added challenge that i had them in different rooms so i had to go between the two. It took me a long time to bond with eva after that two weeks of not being able to hold her. Ive since had a full term baby so im able to make that comparison and one of the things which is difficult when youre in the neo natal unit is you have to ask permission to hold your baby. And you have to check when its feeding time and you have to check when care and the nurse are good at getting the parents involved in the care and because i was there so in the care and because i was there so long and i got very involved and i asked a lot of questions and i did get involved with their care, but at the beginning, you know, its a very traumatic time and youre just scared. Youre looking at an incubator, in mew case, two incubators and youre terrified. Liz, you must have picked up on that from parents previously, mums and dads feel like their baby belongs to the hospital because their baby is so sick. And when a parent is scared, how do you get them involved with their full consent . Well, i think, a lot of parents particularly dads always are terrified to even touch their baby because theyre so tiny and so fragile and i think, its about just gently tiny and so fragile and i think, its aboutjust gently bringing, coaching the parents really to give them the confidence to be able to ca re them the confidence to be able to care for their baby in the way that they should be able to. Doreen, hello, Doreen Crawford a nurse with many Years Experience in premature baby care. From a Nursing Union prospective, what concerns, if any, do you have with Family Integrated Care . I have no concerns. It is a welcome extension to family centred Ca Re Welcome Extension to family centred care which 140 nhs trust across england already implement and i was very pleased to hear that leeds were not considering this as a cheap alternative because over 2,000 Nurse Vacancies in england alone and 64 of neo natal units dont have enough staff for safe staffing. Right. If thats the case then, i mean, ijust right. If thats the case then, i mean, i just wonder right. If thats the case then, i mean, ijust wonder if right. If thats the case then, i mean, i just wonder if there arent enough staff for safe staffing, is it, is it a good thing for parents to be doing it . I think parents have got to be involved in their childrens care. Youre notjust having a neo natal childrens care. Youre notjust having a neo natal experience, youre having a baby for the rest of your life. Youre having a child and we all know the evidence exists that fully informed families are better parents and its a more secure family unit. Sarah, sadly, one of your little girls, eva died after six months, she was six months old. And you felt that you had undiagnosed Post Traumatic stress, i think, when the twins were in hospital, potentially because you felt so helpless as a mother . potentially because you felt so helpless as a mother . I think that was definitely part of it. I think i was definitely part of it. I think i was in hospitalfor so long, 197 days before eva came home to die and i became very much part of that routine and i became very institutionalised and i had some amazing neo natal nurses help and support me, and look after my baby. Both of them. But i would say, i think, the Family Integrated Care is a great initiative. I would just say that parents need a lot of support and thats something i work with a charity called the smallest things and thats something we hear from a lot of parents who have been through neo natal units, they dont have the psychological support they need while on the unit to help their babies. Youre nodding in agreement there, liz i am. Its a big problem. Parents need a huge amount of psychological support and there is a National Standard specification for neo natal care that National Standard specification for neo natal care that says National Standard specification for neo natal care that says we should have access to a psychologist, but the resources arent there for that and its one of the issue that Family Integrated Care seeks to help really by having peer support from parents who have been through the process before and will come back into the hospital to provide peer to peer support for families. Right. On that subject, yvonne says, i descended into depression after my son was born prematurely because i could do nothing to help him and i ended up sitting in the corridor despite the nurses love and care. I wish this system was around, it would have saved me three years of low self worth feelings. Beverley says her daughter arrived six weeks early. It made such a difference. Would you expect it to be rolled out across the country . Or in other hospitals in england and wales . There is a huge amount of interest and other hospitals are beginning to roll it out which is great. Weve got National Study day supported by bliss which is another premature baby charity. And i think that the parents will tell us that it has to be rolled out. Thank you very much. Thank you very much doreen. Thank you carol, dr carol obrien from toronto and sarah, and dr liz, thank you very much. Gay people in chechnya are being rounded up and killed, according to claims from human rights groups. Well be speaking to people in russia about what life is like for the gay community. If you have just lost a partner, the last thing on your mind will be money. But for widowed parents, suddenly becoming the sole earner and providing for a family can add stress to an already traumatic time. As of thursday, the government is reforming the allowance it gives bereaved families. Until now, families have received regular payments for up to 20 years. Under the new system, it will pay a larger initial lump sum, but regular payment will stop after 18 months. It will only affect new claimants. Critics describe the changes as Callous And Brutal, but the government say the changes are fairer. We can speak now to alan, who has incurable cancer. He has a wife and two children. Under the old system, he says his family would have been entitled to nearly £60,000. But following these changes, which come into force on thursday, he says they will receive just over £6,000. He doesnt want us to use his surname to protect the identity of his family. Baroness ros altmann, who was a conservative work and Pensions Minister until last year. Welcome both of you. Alan, thank you so much for talking to us and the reason that you want to speak out today, despite being very sick, is because you feel so strongly about this issue . Thats right. I made a calculation not long ago regarding how much support would be available to my wife to help raise our Young Children and under the Current System, as you say, i calculated it would have been a sum of over £50,000 and under the new system it would reduce to £6,000 and i was shocked that a system of benefits that has been in place as i understand for 70 years, since 1946, although it has been renamed, the essence of this support is that when somebody is widowed there is Financial Support available for Young Children up to the age of 19 or20. Young children up to the age of 19 or 20. And the fact that that has been taken away seems utterly callous and savage. Why do you think this decision has been made . understand that this is a policy that was not at all mentioned in the conservative manifesto as put together by george osborne, as chancellor at the time, this policy therefore appears to have no mandate whatsoever and i can only think that some relatively Junior Minister advised the chancellor at the time because the amount of money that i have already built up in my State Pension through National Insurance contributions is approaching £130,000 so even if the existing policy was paid out, it would only represent half of the money that i have put in to my State Pension and of course, i wont have access to the State Pension so whilst this is continually referred to as a saving, actually its just depriving people of money that they have legitimately earned. Im going to explain to our audience on your behalf if its all right, alan, that the reason that its difficult for you to talk is because you have cancer which as i understand it started in your tonsils before spreading to your lungs and chest and last december you were given between one and five months to live. Thats correct. And it essentially means therefore that if i were to have died or still do in the next cull of days my family would benefit from the current support system. Two days later, we lose £50,000. What conversations have you had with your family about this . I have explained the situation to them. I have said in some ways it wouldnt be a bad thing if they lost mea wouldnt be a bad thing if they lost me a couple of days early, because at least there would be more Financial Support available. Of course, even talking in those terms is very upsetting. And how do they react when you say that . Well, they are very shocked that the government, which as far as we all understand, talks a good story about being caring and compassionate, but in actualfact has being caring and compassionate, but in actual fact has deemed arbitrarily that the period of bereavement which for 70 years has been set by the government as children up to the age of 19 and 20, suddenly the whole process of bereavement is now different for some unknown and unexplained reason. And theresa may, even yesterday, supported the theory, no support for it whatsoever, that you can a cce pta bly it whatsoever, that you can acceptably believe for 18 months, and suddenly all is well. Grieve. I know she is not a parent as such, and may not have some of the emotional feeling and may not have some of the emotionalfeeling and and may not have some of the emotional feeling and empathy towards children. But nevertheless, her advisers shouldnt have let her speak out in such a simplistic way, because we have all had people, known people who have had losses, and the losses and the pain and the anguish dont suddenly turn off like anguish dont suddenly turn off like a tap at month 18. So it was perhaps one of the most naive things someone senior has ever said. What would be your direct message to the Prime Minister . Look into the evidence Thatis Minister . Look into the evidence that is available from Bereavement Charity 5, that is available from Bereavement Charitys, from people she may even know herself, and put a line through this erroneous myth that Bereavement Sta Rts this erroneous myth that bereavement starts and finishes at 18 months. Actually accept the fact that the best practice and the wisdom has a lwa Ys Best Practice and the wisdom has always been it goes on for a very long time, and that we should, as a country, support widowed parents who are working against the most terrible headwinds, to bring up Young Children who have lost their pa rents. Young children who have lost their parents. And we should keep the Current System in place. Particularly because, as i said before, there is not a penny being saved. All the money is already in the State Pension pot. I and others have worked very hard to accumulate that. Iam going that. I am going to read you a comment from one of our viewers, who says, the amounts paid out to bereaved families was a ridiculously generous amount. Its neither generous callous to cut that. I was that widow in my 305 with children. Callous to cut that. I was that widow in my 30s with children. Well, its not right for me to comment on any individual. I dont know what their situation was, and they are entitled to that opinion. I wholly disagree with it. Chris says, in derus omeley people watching you around the country, and they say they find your story utterly heartbreaking. There are so many people watching you around the country. Another example of how the conservatives are victimising those most in need. Rowan is horrified by the cutting benefits for bereaved families. It is not acceptable. May i read you the official statement we have from the Department For Work And Pensions, which explains why they say they are doing this . We are modernising the support we offer, replacing an outdated system that doesnt reflect peoples lives today. The new Bereavement Support Payment is simpler, easier to understand, tax free and doesnt affect the amount received from other benefits, so families can access wider welfare support. And younger grieving spouses and civil partners without children will get monthly support for the first time. Well. I mean, the simple fact is that the amount of money being awarded is virtually identical when you make the adjustment pre and post tax, so there is no actual new money coming in on a weekly basis. What is happening is that the support currently available for up to 20 years for a young child who has lost a parent through two aged 20, is simply being cut to 18 months. And however that stressed up as simplification or streamlining, its just a massive as simplification or streamlining, itsjust a massive draconian, brutal, callous savage cut. It wasnt in the manifesto. People didnt vote for it. George osborne randomly set this in motion in 2015 to one do support that has been in place for uk citizens first 70 yea rs. Place for uk citizens first 70 years. And its simply disgraceful and unacceptable. Allen, thank you so much for talking to us. I would be grateful if you could listen to baroness alterman. Baroness roz altmann. She is a Conservative Peer and she was work and Pensions Minister onto last year. Good morning. Good morning. And good morning alan. Im so sorry to hear of your really sad story. Can these changes be justified in any way . Well, i must admit i very much agree with the thrust of what alan is saying. It is true that this will be a simpler system and it is true that the old system was too complicated, with three different types of benefits. You didnt really know exactly what you were going to get. But the fact of the matter is, in my view, that offering support forjust18 months to a widowed pa re nt forjust18 months to a widowed parent assumes that after 18 months everything is fine. And i would think most right thinking people dont agree with that. And i do find it strange that the truth here is that this is going to save £40 million a year from 2020. That is the honest answer. This is about saving money. And its actually a policy that Iain Duncan Smith and the Department For Work And Pensions devised. And i dont think that the priorities are as i would want to see them. Indeed i was arguing for a longer period of support than 18 months. How long were you arguing fora . Months. How long were you arguing for a . I think we need some Proper Research in terms of the psychological impact of bereavement, Andl Psychological Impact of bereavement, and i dont believe we have really delved into that at all. But what was it you suggested . delved into that at all. But what was it you suggested . I suggested five to ten years. But we dont know. We need Proper Research. The issue here though is prioritising the money to be spent on the widowed partners without children, at the expense of widowed partners with children, seems to me, from a social perspective, not to be what most people would think was right and fair. Clearly in the old system, if you had no dependent children and you had no dependent children and you were under 45, you got nothing. And you will now get a couple of thousand pounds or a little bit more. But under the old system there was much more and longer term support for parents with children. Now i do agree with the governments idea that the best route out of poverty is to get into work. And Thatis Poverty is to get into work. And that is another thrust behind these reforms. But i sincerely do not believe that telling parents that their Support Payments are only going to last 18 months, when there are so many circumstances going to last 18 months, when there are so many circumstances in which psychologically they will not be over the bereavement at all by then, is not, in my view, howl over the bereavement at all by then, is not, in my view, how i would want to see a compassionate, conservative government running this kind of policy. And lets face it, bereavement at a young age, indeed at any age, but particularly when coping with bringing up younger children and trying to work in many cases as well, but having to cut that from full time to part time, can be a really distressing experience. And the society, if at any time, surely at that time, it should surely step up and offer proper support. Theresa may said yesterday when she was asked about the changes coming in, it is about being fairto the changes coming in, it is about being fair to those who are bereaved, it is about being fair to other taxpayers, as many of our guests other taxpayers, as many of our gu ests have other taxpayers, as many of our guests have pointed out, those dying of also been taxpayers. I want to ask you, if you remember, on the steps of downing street last year, mrs may said, when we take the big calls, we will think not be powerful, but of you. When we pass big laws, we will listen not to the mighty, but to you. Do they sound like empty words when you look at policy now . Well, i think what is suggested here is that this is not considered a big call. And of course do those individuals to whom bereavement happens, it is a huge call. It is such a devastating event. And of course alan and his family know that. They are at the sharp end. And i do really feel that society itself, and the people of this country, will want to step up and help widowed parents. They need support from the National Insurance system. That is what National Insurance should be therefore, in my view. Alan, not your real name, i should have said. This is a big call for you, i would have thought . Yeah, this is an absolutely huge call. It is changing, obviously, my family to people who are suddenly going to be thrown into grief for a very long period of time. And i agree with what the baroness just said. National insurance on to work paid m, m National Insurance on to work paid in, in my case, hoping that i would be alive at aged 68, to draw my State Pension. That same money should be available to support my family in the form of the widowed pa rents family in the form of the widowed parents allowance. The money actually would not be anywhere near as great as the amount of money that ive already accumulated in the State Pension. So there would still bea State Pension. So there would still be a saving. But there would still be a saving. But there would still bea be a saving. But there would still be a proper entitlement to support at this terrible time. I want to read you some more comments if i can. We are so grateful for your time. John says, what a lovely man this is. So articulate, so clear about his family and how they will be affected by his death, financially. What a world we live in when we see everything so black and white. How dare the government put this terrible worry and pressure on a terminally ill person . Please let someone see sense and a terminally ill person . Please let someone see sense and let him die knowing that this is resolved for him. Its true, because at this point in ones life, you are contemplating death. And you want to go out of this world with some dignity, with some grace, with some peace of mind. Not full of financial anxiety, feeling as if the government hasjust anxiety, feeling as if the government has just taken money away from you that he had earned legitimately. Linda says, i am heartbroken and listening to alans story. I am ashamed to be british. Michael says, what a truly unique individual alan is. The government will be able to carry this out as there is no opposition across the house. Craig, incredibly brave interview. Bereaved families benefit payments being cut is the evil cherry placed on top of a heartless cake. Kalann says, i totally agree with alan about cutting the benefit. It isa with alan about cutting the benefit. It is a Callous And Brutal cut by this government. It is about saving the government money and nothing less, however they decide to presented. It is awful and so sad. I think its very true that we have lost a n i think its very true that we have lost an effective her majestys opposition. It is self evident. I dont think anybody thinks that the other side of the comment, the opposition, does anything at the moment. So i would call upon the lords, the second chamber, to step up lords, the second chamber, to step up now and call the government to account, because i think they can and should mount a cross party initiated to stop this terrible situation. Alan. Hello. I commit alan. Hello. Icommit to alan. Hello. I commit to you to try and speak to the other parties across the house to see if there is anything we can do to extent the period of support for widowed parents because i am really, really upset by the way in which this is being done and the way it is being presented because it is about saving money and it is about giving more money and it is about giving more money to parents who are widowed, partners that are widowed without families and it is not recognising the devastation that it can cause to parents with Young Children. Sol will have discussions with members across the house of lords in all parties and see if there is anything we can do to encourage the government to extent the support for parents. Thank you. Alan thank you so much for talking to us this morning and giving us so much of your time. We really appreciate. A pleasure. We will follow you as you try to, as you say, try and draw lords together to try and stop the changes. We have so many comments from you about what alan was saying. I will try and read some more before the end of the programme. More than 100 gay men have been rounded up by authorities in a region of russia and subjected to torture and even murdered. Thats according to a russian newspaper and human rights campaigners in the country, which claim dozens of men aged between 16 and 50 have mysteriously disappeared off the streets in chechnya including well known Television Personalities and religious leaders and at least three People Killed. The chechen Authorities Say this report was absolute lies and disinformation, saying gay people do not even exist in the state. We can speak now to svetla na zakharova from russian lgbt network, who is in St Petersburg. Tanya lokshina, who is Russia Programme director at Human Rights Watch. Shes in moscow. Thank you very much for talking to us. Tell us, i mean, i know you have set up a hot line for gay people inside chechnya. What sort of stories are you getting . Well, we are already getting requests from 93v are already getting requests from gay men who basically want to escape our who already managed to escape, but they are afraid that they can be hunted. I can say by now for the first two days of the hot line, we got more than ten requests for help. What do they say is happening in chechnya . Well. We can still hear you. Theyre telling different stories. Basically that they are terribly scared. They dont know what to do and they are even afraid to co nta ct what to do and they are even afraid to contact us and co operate with us because they still believe that they can be punished. 0k. Tanya, from your own experience, Russia Programme director at Human Rights Watch, what are you hearing about whats going on in chechnya and why . Well, the information which was first publicised a few days ago was very similarto first publicised a few days ago was very similar to the information that we have been getting from a range of trusted sources including sources in the chechen republic, the number of those sources and the consistency of the store chris that we were being told left us with no doubt that the devastating developments are taking place. Dozens of males, are detained in abduction style detention centres in chechnya on suspicion of being gay. They are tortured, and three individuals at least died as a result. Now, this situation is utterly devastating. Officials say that gay people dont exist. This is ridiculous. The Kremlin Press Service made a comment on the issue. Vladimir putins press secretary said specifically that the kremlin did not have any information about the situation, but as there were media reports, Law Enforcement agencies in russia would look into the reports and run a check. Now, this sounds like good news, right, like a signal to Law Enforcement authorities that there is media reports come those media reports cannot be ig in order, but what really bothered us on the other hand is that the official said while those individuals who supposedly suffered in the hands of Law Enforcement and Security Officials in chechnya should file official complaints and then Law Enforcement agencies will look into the complaints. 0k. Thank you. Were going to leave it there, but thank you so much, tanya. Tanya who is from Human Rights Watch and thank you to the russian lgbt network in St Petersburg. Did you know that right now its legal in the uk for doctors to perform plastic surgery, even if they havent specialised in it . That means a gynaecologist could legally perform a face lift. A cardiologist could perform liposuction, or a gp could perform an eyelid lift all they need is a basic surgery qualification. There are some calls for this to change. In this country, someone could go and get a Training Course for a weekend and get a certificate and start injecting. Anybody can go and buy fillers and inject them into you. You know, your plumber can inject fillers into you. There are cases of blindness after filler injections. If you do have bleeding after eyelid surgery and the blood manages to get round to the back of the eye, if that isnt picked up quickly enough, the pressure on your eye could make you go permanently blind. Breasts will become saggy with age, and an implant will only weigh that tissue down. Most people will need replacement of their implants 15, 20 years down the line. The big procedure now is the brazilian butt lift, which involves fat injections to the buttock area to give volume to that region. Kim kardashian,j lo the effect is well and truly with us at the moment. Ive seen so many patients with body dysmorphic disorder, and they are best served by seeing a psychologist than going under the knife. Anyone can operate, but it takes real skill to know when to not operate. In 2012, dawn knight went to a doctor that was recommended to her by a hospital, to fix hooded eyelids. It never occurred to her look up if her doctor was a specialist plastic surgeon, qualified to do her surgery. The operation went wrong and she was left unable to fully close her eyes and has long term eye sight problems. It was only after the surgery that she looked up her doctor on the General Medical Council list and found he was not registered as a specialist surgeon. We were going to talk to dawn, but there is an issue so we cant speak to her right now. I apologise for that. No, we can talk to her. Dawn, hello. Hi, good morning. Thank you for talking to us. Tell us why you wa nted for talking to us. Tell us why you wanted the eye surgery . Well, i had weight loss surgery and lost quite a bit of weight and the only thing really that bothered me after that was my upper eye lids. So i decided to go back to the company that had the original surgery with and ended up the original surgery with and ended up having the original surgery with and ended r the original surgery with and ended up having upper and lower eye lid surgery. Up having upper and lower eye lid surgery. And when was it clear that something wasnt right after you had the surgery . Well, i had the surgery in 2012 and i had never had anything done with my eyes before, but i was fairly aware that i was incredibly uncomfortable, my eyes were sore and itchy and that continued on and never really got any better. And obviously, you went back and said, look, this is not right. How did they react . Well, it was a case of, you know, you need to continue to speak to your surgeon which i did. I went back and saw him on a few occasions. And then eventually the communication stopped. And eventually you were told, i think, that your eyes wouldnt close properly. They wouldnt fully close asa properly. They wouldnt fully close as a result of the surgeon taking out too much skin, is that correct . Yeah, thats correct, yeah. I have been left with a condition which is the inability to close my eyes when i sleep which is also having an effect on the surface of my eyes and my day to day life is governed by in the interim time caring for the surface of my eyes. Imean, your surface of my eyes. I mean, your doctor was not a specialist in this area, but was registered . Thats right. Certainly not back then i didnt question who i had been introduced toment i was led to believe he was the right guy for thejob. I did check that he was on the gmc register which he was and is and you know didnt really feel like i should have been investigating any further at that time. Having said that, if i knew what i know now i would have looked far more deeply in the person that i was being matched with for surgery. And briefly dawn, how do you reflect on what happened to you . M and briefly dawn, how do you reflect on what happened to you . It has been an incredibly traumatic five years. Ive tried my best to help other women that have found themselves in a similar position and my advice really would be in the lack of any serious regulation within the industry, the cosmetic and a settic industry, the cosmetic and a settic industry, you need to do your research, you need to look beyond where you think you would need to look and the registers with the Royal College of surgeons and the up and coming one for the non cosmetic industry have to be the first point of co nta ct industry have to be the first point of contact really. Thank you, dawn. Thank you so much for talking to us. I appreciate your time. Dawn knight. This news is to do with the investigation into the attack on the young Asylum Seeker in croydon on friday. Police say that they have charged a further six people in connection with that assault. The young Asylum Seeker in a really serious condition in hospital and lucky to escape with his life. This e mailfrom lucky to escape with his life. This e mail from kate and lucky to escape with his life. This e mailfrom kate and it is lucky to escape with his life. This e mail from kate and it is to do with alan who we spoke to earlier who is dying of cancer and incurable cancer and he was speaking out in very calm terms about the changes to Bereavement Allowances which come in this thursday and which could have real Financial Impact on his family. Kate says, alans time is so precious and everyone who heard his testimony today are extremely honoured that he spent some of it on us. Mrs may, a u turn is required again obviously. Thank you very much for getting in touch with the programme today. You can see the full interview with alan on our programme page. Thank you for your company. Were back tomorrow at 9am. Rather more cloud around some parts of the country this morning. This is hampshire. Further north we have got heavy showers in parts of highland scotland, but when i show you the satellite picture you will see for many of us there is a good deal of sunshine. Sunshine across parts of east anglia, but it will fade as this weather system, these weak weather systems ease northwards. We will continue to see a good deal of sunshine towards the north. Gale force winds in the far north and it will feel fresher. The so plenty of showers to come in scotlandment for most of us under the ridge of High Pressure it will be a chillier night. A touch of ground frost in the countryside. Giving us a dry and a bright day for most tomorrow, but again we will have a bit of cloud and it will feel fresher in the north westerly breeze. This is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11am a suspected gas attack kills at least 58 people in the rebel stronghold of idlib in northern syria, with reports of survivors choking for breath. 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