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they might be perhaps a little bit more relaxed when it comes to allowing president erdogan to do what he wants in northern syria and northern iraq. you've just mentioned northern syria. there's fighting going on there, too, involving, what, turkey, russia, syria itself. you have areas that are held by the kurds, by the syrian democratic forces. you have rebel—held areas in the west of syria. you have areas along the turkish border that are turkish controlled and turkish administered. you have iraqi kurdistan. you have all of these different areas that break down. and then, of course, below that you have regime syria, still controlled by president assad with russian backing there, as well. it makes trying to find a resolution here enormously difficult. it is so finely balanced. there are so many different parties at play. they all want different things. and it really makes you feel for the civilian population, who are trying to live,

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