Transcripts For BBCNEWS HM the King in Northern Ireland 20240707

good morning, and welcome to our continuing live coverage of king charles iii's journey around the united kingdom. today the king and continue his tour, visiting northern ireland. there he will acknowledge the tributes paid to his mother and attend a service of reflection for the life of queen elizabeth ii. a busy day lies ahead for the new king. first this morning, he will fly into northern ireland's capital where he will land at george best city airport and it is there where the river lagan meets belfast lough, that he will take his historic first historic steps in the country as king. it is in the shadow of the famous ship building, the giant cranes, sansome and goliath, that the official reception party will meet the reception party and he will then travel to royal hillsborough castle the members of the public lining the street will get their first proper glimpse of the new king. there he will have an audience with the secretary of state for northern ireland and will meet invited guests and receive a message of condolence which will be delivered by the speaker of the northern ireland assembly. just after 2:20pm, the king will leave hillsborough castle, making his way through real hillsborough village back to northern ireland's capital, belfast and is then expected in the city centre travelling past belfast city hall at around 20 minutes later. shortly after that, the king will arrive at belfast cathedral, known locally as st anne's cathedral, for the service of reflection marking the life of queen elizabeth ii, which is due to begin at three p. —— three o'clock. during the day i will welcome a number of guest to share their thoughts and memories of the queen and we will discuss her majesty's relationship with northern ireland as well as offering an insight into the man who was the prince and now king. joining the first one of the northern ireland's best—known broadcasters, gloria hunniford and the emeritus professor of politics at queen's university belfast who was, as it happens, a student at cambridge with the new king. we will talk about that in a moment, but welcome to you both, lovely to have you with us today. gloria, you are one of northern ireland's most familiar faces. you lived in the village of royal hillsborough for many years, and you have had a number of encounters with the queen and we will talk about those in more detail. but what are your first thoughts about the place we find ourselves in today, and the legacy left by queen elizabeth? first ourselves in today, and the legacy left by queen elizabeth?— left by queen elizabeth? first of all, we left by queen elizabeth? first of all. we had _ left by queen elizabeth? first of all. we had a — left by queen elizabeth? first of all, we had a family _ left by queen elizabeth? first of all, we had a family home - left by queen elizabeth? first of all, we had a family home in - left by queen elizabeth? first of l all, we had a family home in royal hillsborough for 20 years, so today is the mixture of sadness and yet excitement at the new king actually coming to the village, a georgian village, very intimate, very small, and the castle of course, not a traditional castle, but a really, really wonderful, luxurious home and i went past it every day. my thoughts are, i am kind of in a state not of denial, i know that the queen has passed, but watching the coverage for the last couple of days on the bbc, there is an element of me that can't quite believe the fact that she has gone. and i've met lots of people who say the same thing. i loved herfrom of people who say the same thing. i loved her from when of people who say the same thing. i loved herfrom when i of people who say the same thing. i loved her from when i was a small girl and ifollowed her loved her from when i was a small girl and i followed her life. loved her from when i was a small girl and ifollowed her life. iwas fascinated by her as a princess. we didn't have televisions in our houses that point and we saw the news at the cinema in the morning, the pictures on the saturday as we called it, and i was enthralled by the princesses and enthralled as she stepped off the plane and she was queen. so from that moment, i have followed her wonderful rain and i admire her so much and i loved her work ethic —— wonderful reign. i loved her naturalness with people young and old, and we have seen lots of children in the past few days fascinated by the queen and i have so much admiration for the way her knowledge was, worldwide. she travelled a lot, she knows people and i still can't get used to the thought that two days before she passed that she was smiling, albeit a little bit frail, but seeing one prime minister out and another in, and in my mind i could not take on board she died two days later. i feel really sad.— board she died two days later. i feel really sad. paul, i think you will have your _ feel really sad. paul, i think you will have your thoughts - feel really sad. paul, i think you will have your thoughts on - feel really sad. paul, i think you will have your thoughts on howl will have your thoughts on how history will view the queen and northern ireland, her relationship with northern ireland and indeed the republic of ireland and how she made history. and we will talk about that through the course of our conversation, butjust for now, what is your personal reflection on the role that she played in the factory is no longer with us?— is no longer with us? well, there isn't any question _ is no longer with us? well, there isn't any question of— is no longer with us? well, there isn't any question of the - is no longer with us? well, there isn't any question of the impact l is no longer with us? well, there | isn't any question of the impact of the queen— isn't any question of the impact of the queen on northern ireland and anglo _ the queen on northern ireland and anglo irish relation and it was quite — anglo irish relation and it was quite dramatically benign when it came _ quite dramatically benign when it came to — quite dramatically benign when it came to 2012 when it transferred angry _ came to 2012 when it transferred angry and — came to 2012 when it transferred angry and irritable feelings into something more positive. there is no doubt _ something more positive. there is no doubt about— something more positive. there is no doubt about that. there was a moment in 1967 _ doubt about that. there was a moment in 1967 on _ doubt about that. there was a moment in 1967 on the eve of the troubles where _ in 1967 on the eve of the troubles where she — in 1967 on the eve of the troubles where she visits belfast and a breeze — where she visits belfast and a breeze block was thrown out the car and it _ breeze block was thrown out the car and it was_ breeze block was thrown out the car and it was interesting that the chap who did _ and it was interesting that the chap who did it— and it was interesting that the chap who did it would not speak english when _ who did it would not speak english when the — who did it would not speak english when the police came to ask why you did this, _ when the police came to ask why you did this, and — when the police came to ask why you did this, and he said he would only speak— did this, and he said he would only speak on _ did this, and he said he would only speak an irish. that is a virtuous circle _ speak an irish. that is a virtuous circle in — speak an irish. that is a virtuous circle in which the queen then comes to the _ circle in which the queen then comes to the castle and addresses the irish— to the castle and addresses the irish president in irish, and she is the one _ irish president in irish, and she is the one speaking in irish, and somehow— the one speaking in irish, and somehow that conveys the way that she had _ somehow that conveys the way that she had that transformative effect and was _ she had that transformative effect and was so widely respected both in the north— and was so widely respected both in the north and south, and in both communities. as we saw yesterday in the very— communities. as we saw yesterday in the very benign cross community tone of the _ the very benign cross community tone of the assembly debate in northern ireland _ of the assembly debate in northern ireland yesterday, so there really is not _ ireland yesterday, so there really is not any — ireland yesterday, so there really is not any doubt about that. there is not any doubt about that. there is an— is not any doubt about that. there is an argument, and i can remember an irish— is an argument, and i can remember an irish senior— is an argument, and i can remember an irish senior official saying to me. _ an irish senior official saying to me. that — an irish senior official saying to me, that there is no limit to how good _ me, that there is no limit to how good anglo irish relations can become — good anglo irish relations can become after this. we are in the aftermath— become after this. we are in the aftermath of the brexit and protocol issues _ aftermath of the brexit and protocol issues and _ aftermath of the brexit and protocol issues and a slightly different situation, but as we approach the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement, the greatest tribute to the late _ agreement, the greatest tribute to the late sovereign would be if those institutions were seen to work again — institutions were seen to work a . ain. ., ., , institutions were seen to work aaain. ., ., , ., again. paul, for the benefit of --eole again. paul, for the benefit of people watching _ again. paul, for the benefit of people watching our - again. paul, for the benefit of. people watching our programme again. paul, for the benefit of- people watching our programme today who don't know perhaps an awful lot about the intricacies of life in northern ireland, it is often referred to as a place apart. the monarchy, historically, had a very different relationship with people in northern ireland and the island of ireland than scotland, wales and england. how significant is that on a day like today? i england. how significant is that on a day like today?— a day like today? i mentioned the startin: a day like today? i mentioned the starting moment _ a day like today? i mentioned the starting moment in _ a day like today? i mentioned the starting moment in 1957 - a day like today? i mentioned the starting moment in 1957 where i l starting moment in 1957 where i think— starting moment in 1957 where i think there was no question that the nationalist republican community would _ nationalist republican community would view the event of her visit with a _ would view the event of her visit with a degree of coolness, shall we say, and _ with a degree of coolness, shall we say, and then you look at the assembly— say, and then you look at the assembly and how speakers from both traditions _ assembly and how speakers from both traditions across the board were speaking — traditions across the board were speaking in a very respectful way of her majesty, and i think there is that change, and it is a function to a very— that change, and it is a function to a very large — that change, and it is a function to a very large degree of those key meetings, and it's notjust a matter of speaking — meetings, and it's notjust a matter of speaking irish. at all time the unionist — of speaking irish. at all time the unionist community has felt a direct involvement and reassurance with the monarchy _ involvement and reassurance with the monarchy. take a simple thing the other— monarchy. take a simple thing the other day— monarchy. take a simple thing the other day when peter robinson was in the ceremony, and he is famous for saying _ the ceremony, and he is famous for saying in— the ceremony, and he is famous for saying in 1985 that northern ireland is on the _ saying in 1985 that northern ireland is on the window ledge of the union and there _ is on the window ledge of the union and there he is 35 years later at the centre — and there he is 35 years later at the centre of a key moment of ceremony— the centre of a key moment of ceremony in the british state. so the way— ceremony in the british state. so the way the monarchy functions tends to reassure _ the way the monarchy functions tends to reassure unionists and there is a greater— to reassure unionists and there is a greater respect for the nationalists than ever— greater respect for the nationalists than ever there was.— greater respect for the nationalists than ever there was. peter robinson, former first — than ever there was. peter robinson, former first minister— than ever there was. peter robinson, former first minister of— than ever there was. peter robinson, former first minister of northern - former first minister of northern ireland and leader of the dup, the party established by ian paisley. i will tempt you into the politics a little bit, gloria. did you see that transformative influence that the queen had on the politics of ireland in the gestures that she made? definitely, and i've seen lots of footage in the last few days about when she went to dublin, for example and how people really greeted her with great admiration. i have a theory of my own that, irrespective throughout the world when there is unrest in certain countries about the monarchy, etc, ifeel in my heart that the queen was above all of that, and irrespective of the politics etc that she was so admired and loved. ~ . ~ politics etc that she was so admired and loved. ~ ., ,, , ., politics etc that she was so admired and loved. ~ ., ,, i. ,., ., and loved. well, thank you both for now. and loved. well, thank you both for now- during — and loved. well, thank you both for now. during our— and loved. well, thank you both for now. during our coverage _ and loved. well, thank you both for now. during our coverage of - and loved. well, thank you both for| now. during our coverage of today's events we will be looking at that unique connection the queen had with northern ireland and teasing out some of the complexities of that relationship. we will also hear more thoughts and recollections from people whose lives were touched by her majesty. but first, let's recall just some of the queen's many visits to northern ireland. shill just some of the queen's many visits to northern ireland. mil it just some of the queen's many visits to northern ireland.— to northern ireland. all it took was the familiar— to northern ireland. all it took was the familiar smile, _ to northern ireland. all it took was the familiar smile, the _ to northern ireland. all it took was the familiar smile, the wave, - to northern ireland. all it took was the familiar smile, the wave, and l the familiar smile, the wave, and the familiar smile, the wave, and the ready handshake, and she made every meeting special. and in return, she received special affection. but long before she became queen, she was a regular visitor to northern ireland. the ro al visitor to northern ireland. the royal plane. — visitor to northern ireland. the royal plane, bringing the king and queen— royal plane, bringing the king and queen and princess elizabeth on a visit _ queen and princess elizabeth on a visit. �* , , ' ' queen and princess elizabeth on a visit. . , , ' ' ., , visit. and if this visit in 1945 was a chance for _ visit. and if this visit in 1945 was a chance for the _ visit. and if this visit in 1945 was a chance for the people - visit. and if this visit in 1945 was a chance for the people to - visit. and if this visit in 1945 was a chance for the people to see i visit. and if this visit in 1945 was i a chance for the people to see the young princess, it was a chance for the young princess to further her education. , ., ., ., education. the visit to parliament buildin . s education. the visit to parliament buildings gave — education. the visit to parliament buildings gave princess _ education. the visit to parliament buildings gave princess elizabethl buildings gave princess elizabeth her first — buildings gave princess elizabeth her first experience of any parliament.— her first experience of any parliament. ., ., parliament. the warmth of the rece tion parliament. the warmth of the reception she _ parliament. the warmth of the reception she received - parliament. the warmth of the reception she received from i parliament. the warmth of the reception she received from a| reception she received from a gathering of 50,000 at harland and wolff shipyard was to become a familiar experience. i wolff shipyard was to become a familiar experience.— wolff shipyard was to become a familiar experience. i name this shi - , familiar experience. i name this ship. eagle. _ familiar experience. i name this ship. eagle. may _ familiar experience. i name this ship, eagle, may god _ familiar experience. i name this ship, eagle, may god protect i familiar experience. i name this i ship, eagle, may god protect and familiar experience. i name this - ship, eagle, may god protect and all sail in _ ship, eagle, may god protect and all sail in her _ ship, eagle, may god protect and all sail in her. �* , ship, eagle, may god protect and all sail in her. . , , ., sail in her. and she captivated hearts again — sail in her. and she captivated hearts again when, _ sail in her. and she captivated hearts again when, as - sail in her. and she captivated hearts again when, as queen l hearts again when, as queen elizabeth, she and the duke of edinburgh visited only weeks after she was crowned. her charm and her smile disarmed all who met her. no matter their rank. the situation in northern ireland was such that security was tight on her silver jubilee tour. brute security was tight on her silver jubilee tour-— security was tight on her silver jubilee tour. ~ ., ,, . jubilee tour. we want the queen! we want the queen! _ jubilee tour. we want the queen! we want the queen! but _ jubilee tour. we want the queen! we want the queen! but there _ jubilee tour. we want the queen! we want the queen! but there were - want the queen! but there were carden want the queen! but there were garden parties _ want the queen! but there were garden parties at _ want the queen! but there were garden parties at royal- garden parties at royal hillsborough, and a visit to the new university of ulster. and she continued to carry out her sovereign's duties. every visit was a chance for people to get close to her, sometimes a little too close. but she famously said that she had to be seen by people in order to be believed. always ready to make friends, she was equally ready to make history. her visit to the irish republic the first by— her visit to the irish republic the first by a — her visit to the irish republic the first by a british monarch, was hugely— first by a british monarch, was hugely symbolic.— first by a british monarch, was hugely symbolic. over her lifetime she witnessed _ hugely symbolic. over her lifetime she witnessed enormous - hugely symbolic. over her lifetime she witnessed enormous change i hugely symbolic. over her lifetime | she witnessed enormous change in northern ireland. but what many here remember was her willingness to meet the challenge of this place with her ever open hand. an open hand and a smile that those who met her will never forget. and that is a lovely moment where the queen reaches for a helping hand out of the launch at carrickfergus harbour. lovely memories or people there, gloria, and it was as a young girl that you caught your first glimpse of the queen. absolutely. i would have been _ glimpse of the queen. absolutely. i would have been 13 _ glimpse of the queen. absolutely. i would have been 13 and _ glimpse of the queen. absolutely. i would have been 13 and i _ glimpse of the queen. absolutely. i would have been 13 and i was - glimpse of the queen. absolutely. i would have been 13 and i was out i glimpse of the queen. absolutely. i | would have been 13 and i was out on my bicycle on a country road and i think i am right in saying that northern ireland was the first official visit after her majesty became the queen. and you can imagine the excitement. however i am innocent enough at 13 and the police came along and pushed us towards the hedge to get out the way with the bicycle, a narrow road, and then to my amazement, along came a glass topped car with the queen and the duke of edinburgh in it, presumably on their way to royal hillsborough and it was so incredible, because as i mentioned, very few people really had televisions and we only began to get them in our country until the coronation, so i watched it at mrs mccracken's, a neighbour in our road, fascinated. you mccracken's, a neighbour in our road, fascinated.— mccracken's, a neighbour in our road, fascinated. you saw her on that visit in _ road, fascinated. you saw her on that visit in 1953 _ road, fascinated. you saw her on that visit in 1953 but _ road, fascinated. you saw her on l that visit in 1953 but subsequently, when you establish yourself as a broadcaster, you made a television documentary about that visit. yes, i did. ., �* documentary about that visit. yes, i did. .,�* ,, documentary about that visit. yes, i did. ., ., did. you've probably seen more of the pictures _ did. you've probably seen more of the pictures than _ did. you've probably seen more of the pictures than any _ did. you've probably seen more of the pictures than any of— did. you've probably seen more of the pictures than any of us. - did. you've probably seen more of the pictures than any of us. yes, | the pictures than any of us. yes, i've been very lucky for various reasons for being around that long to come across the queen on many occasions. for example, the royal variety show, she didn't go to everyone but i was involved in nine of those over the years and she was propping out at least four of them, so lots of photographs because afterwards, and i always loved it, no matter which rail came, but she talked to everybody backstage after the show. you can imagine as a kid from northern ireland having admired the queen from being a princess what a thrill that was, and the other thing i admired about the queen is the fact that i liked her attitude of never explain, never complain, whichever way round it is and of course she was very private in that sense and i like that, but when she was with people, very open and that fabulous smile and she was so pretty as a child and gorgeous to the very end, always dressing beautifully, and that smile, even when she was meeting the new prime minister. what's interesting is just looking at some of those pictures that gloria was talking about, but from the early days, the visit to northern ireland after her coronation. she had superstar status at that point and her motorcade was mobbed. the crowds were ten, 15, 20 deep wherever she went.— deep wherever she went. that's ri . ht. deep wherever she went. that's right- you _ deep wherever she went. that's right. you alluded _ deep wherever she went. that's right. you alluded to _ deep wherever she went. that's right. you alluded to this - deep wherever she went. that's l right. you alluded to this earlier, that the — right. you alluded to this earlier, that the bulk of that affection came from the _ that the bulk of that affection came from the unionist community. what has changed over time and is dramatised by the speeches in the assembly— dramatised by the speeches in the assembly yesterday, the respect and warmth _ assembly yesterday, the respect and warmth there is on the other side of the communal divide in northern ireland — the communal divide in northern ireland. then of course northern ireland _ ireland. then of course northern ireland is— ireland. then of course northern ireland is changing and i think you will find a new king today trying to address— will find a new king today trying to address the face which weren't present— address the face which weren't present when gloria and i were growing — present when gloria and i were growing up in northern ireland. so the monarchy now has a role of adapting — the monarchy now has a role of adapting to a new world where there is more _ adapting to a new world where there is more diversity. but the fundamental achievement is led by the end _ fundamental achievement is led by the end of— fundamental achievement is led by the end of this... nobody could have imagined _ the end of this... nobody could have imagined in — the end of this... nobody could have imagined in the late 60s the tone of the address she had to deliver across— the address she had to deliver across the board in northern ireland _ across the board in northern ireland. �* . across the board in northern ireland. . ., , ., , ireland. and that is really interesting _ ireland. and that is really interesting again, - ireland. and that is really interesting again, in - ireland. and that is really interesting again, in case| ireland. and that is really - interesting again, in case people haven't picked up on details, we haven't picked up on details, we have sinn fein's vice president michelle 0'neill talking about the queen yesterday as a courageous and gracious leader. and talking about her warmth, gracious leader. and talking about herwarmth, kindness gracious leader. and talking about her warmth, kindness and unfailing courtesy towards us as republicans. you would never have imagined that a few short years ago.— few short years ago. exactly, and ou are few short years ago. exactly, and you are going _ few short years ago. exactly, and you are going to _ few short years ago. exactly, and you are going to see _ few short years ago. exactly, and you are going to see as _ few short years ago. exactly, and you are going to see as events i you are going to see as events unfold _ you are going to see as events unfold today that again being played out, the _ is willing to give. inconceivable, i couldn't certainly say —— i can certainly— couldn't certainly say —— i can certainly say, in the 60s. couldn't certainly say -- i can certainly say, in the 60s. gloria, u of course were _ certainly say, in the 60s. gloria, u of course were presented - certainly say, in the 60s. gloria, u of course were presented with i certainly say, in the 60s. gloria, u| of course were presented with your obe of course were presented with your 0be by the queen which must have been a particular thrill for you, and when you got your opportunity, you were determined not to let it pass too quickly! fits you were determined not to let it pass too quickly! ben you were determined not to let it pass too quickly! as i mentioned, i have so much _ pass too quickly! as i mentioned, i have so much admiration - pass too quickly! as i mentioned, i have so much admiration for i have so much admiration for everything she did, and it was such a thrill to get an 0be in the first place. we didn't know who was going to present it and when we heard in the palace it was going to be the queen that day, i was overexcited. when i shake hands with anybody, i have an inclination, i always do that. i put my hand over the clasped hand. my family were sitting, and they were thinking, is she ever going to let the queen's hand go? but she was animated, she was talking about all sorts of things and because i loved and admired her so much i held on as long as i could. at the papers said next day i had broken protocol. but could. at the papers said next day i had broken protocol.— could. at the papers said next day i had broken protocol. but the queen didn't complain. _ had broken protocol. but the queen didn't complain. she _ had broken protocol. but the queen didn't complain. she did _ had broken protocol. but the queen didn't complain. she did not - had broken protocol. but the queen didn't complain. she did not and i l didn't complain. she did not and i didn't complain. she did not and i didn't have _ didn't complain. she did not and i didn't have to _ didn't complain. she did not and i didn't have to explain _ didn't complain. she did not and i didn't have to explain to - didn't complain. she did not and i didn't have to explain to her i didn't have to explain to her either. it was for cancer services and she was asking about my daughter karen. i have heard a lot of people over the last few days, she really seemed to lock into your eyes and it was a deep conversation and she seemed to want to talk on so that hand of mine stayed there. ijust can't find enough adjectives to describe just the way she dealt with everything. you see the warmth of that person with children and older people, and i think everybody in northern ireland today, everybody irrespective of their politics, will be very sad she has passed but also interested in what is going to happen. i think personally that king charles is going to be a good king because he had a great teacher, and he's been around with the queen for a long time to pick up on everything. ijust think his interests in the world and life are as vivid and as keen as the queen's. that's an interesting point gloria makes, king charles has had a very lengthy apprenticeship as prince of wales, so he's had someone very impressive to learn the skills of statecraft from. we are looking back today at the legacy of her majesty the queen but we are also looking forward to what his reign might mean. what are your initial thoughts of what he might be like? because this is someone you have known since the age of 18, you were at cambridge with him. he the age of 18, you were at cambridge with him. . , the age of 18, you were at cambridge with him. ., , ., the age of 18, you were at cambridge with him. .,, ., _, ., , ., with him. he was a contemporary of mine, and with him. he was a contemporary of mine. and l — with him. he was a contemporary of mine, and i had _ with him. he was a contemporary of mine, and i had an _ with him. he was a contemporary of mine, and i had an embarrassing i mine, and i had an embarrassing incident— mine, and i had an embarrassing incident in— mine, and i had an embarrassing incident in that period. it was put back— incident in that period. it was put back into — incident in that period. it was put back into my mind when he talks about _ back into my mind when he talks about being a constitutional monarch yesterday _ about being a constitutional monarch yesterday. there were lectures given by edward _ yesterday. there were lectures given by edward norman on modern british constitution and political history. very well— constitution and political history. very well attended, so it was overcrowded. i was standing at the back one _ overcrowded. i was standing at the back one day, i got there a bit late — back one day, i got there a bit late the _ back one day, i got there a bit late. the lecture comes to the end, and i_ late. the lecture comes to the end, and i turn — late. the lecture comes to the end, and i turn i— late. the lecture comes to the end, and i turn. i don't look, i stepped back— and i turn. i don't look, i stepped back slightly as the lecture ends. i trod on _ back slightly as the lecture ends. i trod on somebody's toe, and i turned round _ trod on somebody's toe, and i turned round and _ trod on somebody's toe, and i turned round and said i'm terribly sorry, it was— round and said i'm terribly sorry, it was prince _ round and said i'm terribly sorry, it was prince charles. he said it was _ it was prince charles. he said it was fine — it was prince charles. he said it was fine. i'm having to say that some _ was fine. i'm having to say that some time _ was fine. i'm having to say that some time later when paul murphy was secretary— some time later when paul murphy was secretary of _ some time later when paul murphy was secretary of state there was a small dinner— secretary of state there was a small dinner in— secretary of state there was a small dinner in hillsborough castle, four people _ dinner in hillsborough castle, four people who were in cambridge at the same _ people who were in cambridge at the same time, _ people who were in cambridge at the same time, and i'm glad to say i came— same time, and i'm glad to say i came in— same time, and i'm glad to say i came in prepared to apologise but i'm came in prepared to apologise but i'm happy— came in prepared to apologise but i'm happy to say it was obviously erased _ i'm happy to say it was obviously erased from his memory. he started talking _ erased from his memory. he started talking to _ erased from his memory. he started talking to me about what you would expect _ talking to me about what you would expect him to talk about. what he does _ expect him to talk about. what he does have — expect him to talk about. what he does have is a very deep concern, knowledge — does have is a very deep concern, knowledge of history of northern ireland — knowledge of history of northern ireland. he came to the city hall a year or— ireland. he came to the city hall a year or so— ireland. he came to the city hall a year or so ago. ireland. he came to the city hall a year or so ago-— year or so ago. he's been there a lot. yes, — year or so ago. he's been there a lot. yes, he _ year or so ago. he's been there a lot. yes, he came _ year or so ago. he's been there a lot. yes, he came for— year or so ago. he's been there a lot. yes, he came for the - lot. yes, he came for the commemoration - lot. yes, he came for the commemoration and i lot. yes, he came for the i commemoration and diverse lot. yes, he came for the - commemoration and diverse group lot. yes, he came for the _ commemoration and diverse group of the hundred years history of northern ireland and sat and listened, asked very probing questions. he knows his history, and if that— questions. he knows his history, and if that matters, and i think it does. — if that matters, and i think it does. it's— if that matters, and i think it does. it's a _ if that matters, and i think it does, it's a good sign. we if that matters, and i think it does, it's a good sign. we will be at belfast city — does, it's a good sign. we will be at belfast city hall _ does, it's a good sign. we will be at belfast city hall later- does, it's a good sign. we will be at belfast city hall later in - does, it's a good sign. we will be at belfast city hall later in our. at belfast city hall later in our coverage. the other lesson we learned from that story is king charles didn't bear a grudge. he totally forgot it, thank heavens. from _ totally forgot it, thank heavens. from her— totally forgot it, thank heavens. from her first days as a monarch, the queen understood the importance of being seen by all her people, something she demonstrated on that first visit in 1953. the governor of northern ireland prepared a public holiday, for excited children the day the queen visited their town was a memory they would never forget. there was tremendous passion and excitement. to there was tremendous passion and excitement-— there was tremendous passion and excitement. ., ., , excitement. to take part and be part of this occasion _ excitement. to take part and be part of this occasion was _ excitement. to take part and be part of this occasion was really, - excitement. to take part and be part of this occasion was really, really i of this occasion was really, really important — of this occasion was really, really important to us. the of this occasion was really, really important to us.— of this occasion was really, really important to us. the war was now assed important to us. the war was now passed and _ important to us. the war was now passed and now — important to us. the war was now passed and now it _ important to us. the war was now passed and now it was _ important to us. the war was now passed and now it was time i important to us. the war was now passed and now it was time to i important to us. the war was now i passed and now it was time to enjoy yourself _ the excitement was the fact that she was here in belfast. i was thrilled. i never thought as a young woman that i would actually see the queen of england. it was two seconds, but you know, just those two seconds meant everything to the people who turned out to see here that day. there was cheering and clapping, and some older people were crying because they thought they would never be a time when they saw the queen of england either. i paras never be a time when they saw the queen of england either.— queen of england either. i was in the bo s' queen of england either. i was in the boys' brigade _ queen of england either. i was in the boys' brigade going - queen of england either. i was in the boys' brigade going to i queen of england either. i was in i the boys' brigade going to balmoral to see _ the boys' brigade going to balmoral to see the _ the boys' brigade going to balmoral to see the queen. i was smaller than some _ to see the queen. i was smaller than some of— to see the queen. i was smaller than some of the — to see the queen. i was smaller than some of the other boys. i was trying to get— some of the other boys. i was trying to get into _ some of the other boys. i was trying to get into a — some of the other boys. i was trying to get into a position where i could aet to get into a position where i could get a _ to get into a position where i could get a better view of her. everybody seemed _ get a better view of her. everybody seemed to — get a better view of her. everybody seemed to be of the same opinion. the one _ seemed to be of the same opinion. the one thing that fascinated me, that she _ the one thing that fascinated me, that she was so small and so petite. the idea _ that she was so small and so petite. the idea was that she would come by train by— the idea was that she would come by train by belfast — the idea was that she would come by train by belfast to _ the idea was that she would come by train by belfast to derry, _ the idea was that she would come by train by belfast to derry, and - the idea was that she would come by train by belfast to derry, and the i train by belfast to derry, and the first stop — train by belfast to derry, and the first stop was _ train by belfast to derry, and the first stop was ballymena. - train by belfast to derry, and the first stop was ballymena. and i train by belfast to derry, and the i first stop was ballymena. and then they arrived — first stop was ballymena. and then they arrived in— first stop was ballymena. and then they arrived in ballymoney. - first stop was ballymena. and then they arrived in ballymoney. a- first stop was ballymena. and then they arrived in ballymoney. a sea i first stop was ballymena. and thenl they arrived in ballymoney. a sea of union _ they arrived in ballymoney. a sea of union jacks, — they arrived in ballymoney. a sea of unionjacks. you _ they arrived in ballymoney. a sea of unionjacks, you could _ they arrived in ballymoney. a sea of unionjacks, you could hardly- they arrived in ballymoney. a sea of unionjacks, you could hardly see i unionjacks, you could hardly see faces! _ unionjacks, you could hardly see faces! the — unionjacks, you could hardly see faces! the raf _ unionjacks, you could hardly see faces! the raf band _ unionjacks, you could hardly see faces! the raf band struck- unionjacks, you could hardly see faces! the raf band struck up. unionjacks, you could hardly seei faces! the raf band struck up the national— faces! the raf band struck up the national anthem _ faces! the raf band struck up the national anthem and _ faces! the raf band struck up the national anthem and we _ faces! the raf band struck up the national anthem and we sang i faces! the raf band struck up the national anthem and we sang it, i faces! the raf band struck up the i national anthem and we sang it, and the noise _ national anthem and we sang it, and the noise was— national anthem and we sang it, and the noise was tremendous. - national anthem and we sang it, and the noise was tremendous. the i national anthem and we sang it, and. the noise was tremendous. the whole thin- the noise was tremendous. the whole thing was _ the noise was tremendous. the whole thing was over— the noise was tremendous. the whole thing was over in— the noise was tremendous. the whole thing was over in slightly _ the noise was tremendous. the whole thing was over in slightly over- the noise was tremendous. the whole thing was over in slightly over ten i thing was over in slightly over ten minutes — thing was over in slightly over ten minutes as — thing was over in slightly over ten minutes. as the _ thing was over in slightly over ten minutes. as the train _ thing was over in slightly over ten minutes. as the train slowly i thing was over in slightly over ten i minutes. as the train slowly moved out, the _ minutes. as the train slowly moved out, the raf — minutes. as the train slowly moved out, the raf band _ minutes. as the train slowly moved out, the raf band played _ minutes. as the train slowly moved out, the raf band played the - out, the raf band played the national— out, the raf band played the national anthem _ out, the raf band played the national anthem again - out, the raf band played the national anthem again and i out, the raf band played the - national anthem again and everybody san- national anthem again and everybody sang it _ national anthem again and everybody sang it again — sang it again. #_ sang it again. # god - sang it again. # god save i sang it again. i # god save the sang it again. - # god save the queen sang it again. — # god save the queen #. royalty was very important because it was just somebody we looked up to. the queen was part of your family. she hung on your wall beside your mother's wedding photograph. i was a member of a group and we were so excited, she looked so friendly, we were hanging on to every second that she was slowly passing. her legacy to me is that she showed commitment and she cared for the ordinary people on the street. she has definitely put the people first and herself second. she has definitely put the people first and herself second.— has definitely put the people first and herself second. she has been tremendously _ and herself second. she has been tremendously devoted _ and herself second. she has been tremendously devoted to - and herself second. she has been | tremendously devoted to northern ireland _ tremendously devoted to northern ireland in— tremendously devoted to northern ireland. ., , ., ., , ireland. in a number of occasions later in life _ ireland. in a number of occasions later in life when _ ireland. in a number of occasions later in life when i _ ireland. in a number of occasions later in life when i met _ ireland. in a number of occasions later in life when i met the i ireland. in a number of occasions i later in life when i met the queen, that was very obvious that she had the interests of northern ireland at heart. joining us now i'm pleased to say is lord mandelson who is peter mandelson was secretary of state for northern ireland between october 1999 and january 2001. it is lovely to see you, welcome. we haven't bumped into each other for quite a while, but i do remember one thing, peter. you particularly loved your time at hillsborough castle. i did time at hillsborough castle. i did love it, time at hillsborough castle. i did love it. and _ time at hillsborough castle. i did love it. and l _ time at hillsborough castle. i did love it, and i wasn't _ time at hillsborough castle. i did love it, and i wasn't a _ time at hillsborough castle. i c c love it, and i wasn't a tourist secretary of state coming from london making the odd visit, i lived there. i lived during the weekends and invited people from around northern ireland to come in at weekends, and i went to stay with them. it was a period, i have to say, of great controversy because the belfast good friday agreement having been made then stalled. it didn't get implemented for over a year, and it stalled over the issue of decommissioning, and it was a very difficult one to navigate our way through. so it was a controversial time, way through. so it was a controversialtime, but way through. so it was a controversial time, but for me i have to say my time in northern ireland was the period of most peace and calm during my ministerial career. i think it had something to do with being the furthest away from london i could get!— do with being the furthest away from london i could get! when you see the slendid london i could get! when you see the splendid backdrop _ london i could get! when you see the splendid backdrop we _ london i could get! when you see the splendid backdrop we have _ london i could get! when you see the splendid backdrop we have today i london i could get! when you see the splendid backdrop we have today in i splendid backdrop we have today in all its summer glory, do you feel as if you are back there? the all its summer glory, do you feel as if you are back there?— if you are back there? the garden has changed _ if you are back there? the garden has changed a _ if you are back there? the garden has changed a bit. _ if you are back there? the garden has changed a bit. i _ if you are back there? the garden has changed a bit. i don't - if you are back there? the garden has changed a bit. i don't quite i has changed a bit. i don't quite remember that beautiful garden. i think that has been spruced up, but i loved the ground is very much. there was a particular fenced off lovely rose garden. i'm afraid i can't remember what it was called. at the end of the day, before the lights went down, i would sometimes just go in there to reflect. lads; just go in there to reflect. lady grand lsle- _ just go in there to reflect. lady grand isle. that's _ just go in there to reflect. lady grand isle. that's right. - just go in there to reflect. lady grand isle. that's right. and i just go in there to reflect. lady | grand isle. that's right. and the lake was beautiful. _ grand isle. that's right. and the lake was beautiful. the - grand isle. that's right. and the lake was beautiful. the lake i grand isle. that's right. and the lake was beautiful. the lake had secial lake was beautiful. the lake had special significance _ lake was beautiful. the lake had special significance for - lake was beautiful. the lake had special significance for me i lake was beautiful. the lake had i special significance for me because my golden retriever bobby loved the lake, so i could hardly get him out of it. i lake, so i could hardly get him out of it. , , , lake, so i could hardly get him out ofit. , , of it. i bet the carpets and the furniture didn't _ of it. i bet the carpets and the furniture didn't like _ of it. i bet the carpets and the furniture didn't like that i of it. i bet the carpets and the furniture didn't like that when | of it. i bet the carpets and the i furniture didn't like that when he came _ furniture didn't like that when he came back! the furniture didn't like that when he came back!— furniture didn't like that when he came back! , , , , ., came back! the carpets suffered a little bit. what's _ came back! the carpets suffered a little bit. what's interesting i came back! the carpets suffered a little bit. what's interesting is i little bit. what's interesting is the way in _ little bit. what's interesting is the way in which _ little bit. what's interesting is the way in which the - little bit. what's interesting is the way in which the house, i little bit. what's interesting is| the way in which the house, as gloria says it's not really a castle, a lovely big house, has been opened up to the public formally since you were there. mo mowlam, your predecessor, and you and others have tried to make it more accessible to ordinary people than perhaps it was in the past. the governor was married to an aunt of the queen so the queen was visiting at an early stage in her life, her aunt and uncle which i think a lot of people forget about. it aunt and uncle which i think a lot of people forget about.— aunt and uncle which i think a lot of people forget about. it was the queen's house _ of people forget about. it was the queen's house and _ of people forget about. it was the queen's house and there - of people forget about. it was the queen's house and there was i of people forget about. it was the queen's house and there was a i of people forget about. it was the i queen's house and there was a lovely bed and bedroom for her there. there was everything there for her, she just slotted into it whenever she came and she was clearly very relaxed there.— came and she was clearly very relaxed there. ~ ., �* , , , relaxed there. what's interesting is it was the secretary _ relaxed there. what's interesting is it was the secretary of _ relaxed there. what's interesting is it was the secretary of state - it was the secretary of state residents, the royal residence, it is now open to the public but it was also a location where serious high politics was played out.— politics was played out. serious hiuh politics was played out. serious high politics- — politics was played out. serious high politics. the _ politics was played out. serious high politics. the entire, i politics was played out. serious high politics. the entire, welli politics was played out. serious i high politics. the entire, well not the entire but a huge amount of the negotiation that went into the belfast good friday agreement took place at hillsborough. not least because there were all sorts of rooms where you could just go off and hide and take people, this group or that party, this person or that individual. and you could have lots of side discussions. they were dotted all over the house, and sort of waves and sandwiches and other bits of food would come out and sustain everyone. not a great deal of alcohol i don't think, certainly not during the negotiations. really? just acres of — not during the negotiations. really? just acres of sandwiches. _ not during the negotiations. really? just acres of sandwiches. i'm - not during the negotiations. really? just acres of sandwiches. i'm glad i just acres of sandwiches. i'm glad the ublic just acres of sandwiches. i'm glad the public does _ just acres of sandwiches. i'm glad the public does have _ just acres of sandwiches. i'm glad the public does have access i just acres of sandwiches. i'm glad the public does have access to - just acres of sandwiches. i'm glad | the public does have access to the castle _ the public does have access to the castle now. — the public does have access to the castle now, because in my time doubling — castle now, because in my time doubling there unless you are invited — doubling there unless you are invited in _ doubling there unless you are invited in for a function, you can io invited in for a function, you can go into— invited in for a function, you can go into the — invited in for a function, you can go into the castle but a short time back, _ go into the castle but a short time back, couple of years ago, i headed up back, couple of years ago, i headed up a trust _ back, couple of years ago, i headed up a trust to— back, couple of years ago, i headed up a trust to money to make it accessible _ up a trust to money to make it accessible in the car parks and just laying _ accessible in the car parks and just laying it— accessible in the car parks and just laying it out — accessible in the car parks and just laying it out properly and the gardens _ laying it out properly and the gardens are so magnificent that i think— gardens are so magnificent that i think it _ gardens are so magnificent that i think it is — gardens are so magnificent that i think it is terrific now that the people — think it is terrific now that the people from northern ireland and particularly after the significance of today — particularly after the significance of today will be able to go there and see — of today will be able to go there and see part of it, and so i'm really— and see part of it, and so i'm really pleased it has been open. and see the really pleased it has been open. jinn. see the topiary, i really pleased it has been open. jifir. see the topiary, i gather, peter, really pleased it has been open. elir. see the topiary, i gather, peter, of your two dogs. see the topiary, i gather, peter, of your two dogs— see the topiary, i gather, peter, of your two dogs. apparently there is. i am told this. — your two dogs. apparently there is. i am told this. nobody _ your two dogs. apparently there is. i am told this. nobody is _ your two dogs. apparently there is. i am told this. nobody is told - your two dogs. apparently there is. i am told this. nobody is told you i i am told this. nobody is told you before? you've not seen them? i've not actually seen them, but the dogs became quite famous. first not actually seen them, but the dogs became quite famous.— became quite famous. first bobby, then jack, probably _ became quite famous. first bobby, then jack, probably more _ became quite famous. first bobby, then jack, probably more popular l thenjack, probably more popular during the times of my generation are secretary of state than me, but i remember a wonderful incident of bobby when the queen came to present to the george cross to the ruc, which i had proposed as a way of respecting the ruc which was being transformed into the police service of northern ireland and i wanted to find a way of honouring their sacrifice, which had been used —— huge. we did this, and we had a lunch, and before she was leaving, i wanted her to meet and say goodbye to all of the staff that worked in hillsborough, and at this point the kitchen door opened and outshot bobby, who shot straight through the lady's legs, sat in the receiving line and the queen was completely delighted. she put her hand out to pat bobby who promptly licked her hand. a terrible breach of protocol. much worse than gloria's. much worse. much worse than gloria's. much worse- but _ much worse than gloria's. much worse- but i _ much worse than gloria's. much worse. but i do _ much worse than gloria's. much worse. but i do remember- much worse than gloria's. much worse. but i do remember that l much worse than gloria's. ij�*ii,cri worse. but i do remember that day. what we were doing in presenting the george cross again was not without controversy for many in northern ireland, but i felt it was the right thing to do, but somehow the queen has this ability, she had this ability to defuse tension. so calm. we will talk _ ability to defuse tension. so calm. we will talk more _ ability to defuse tension. so calm. we will talk more about _ ability to defuse tension. so calm. we will talk more about that - ability to defuse tension. so calm. we will talk more about that in - ability to defuse tension. so calm. | we will talk more about that in due course. and today the new king will use the airport as many of us will get versailles to when touching down in the capital. belfast city airport, situated just a few minutes drive away from the city centre. his majesty's flight from edinburgh should land there injust under ten minutes. the aircraft carrying the king will land on the single runway at the airport before taxiing to the victoria stand 2a some distance away from the main terminal building. and after disembarking the king will be received by a number of invited guests including the lord lieutenant of the county borough of belfast and the secretary of state. , so we will keep a watching brief on the airport, and as soon as there is any movement we will bring it to you. there is a slight delay on the arrival of the king's flight, but for many people today is about catching a glimpse of the new king on his first visit, but it's also an opportunity to reflect, as we have been saying, on the life of the queen. our cameras have travelled across the country to capture some of the people of northern ireland's memories of her majesty. she of the people of northern ireland's memories of her majesty. memories of her ma'esty. she was a lovely lady. _ memories of her ma'esty. she was a lovely lady. and — memories of her ma'esty. she was a lovely lady, and she— memories of her majesty. she was a lovely lady, and she was _ memories of her majesty. she was a lovely lady, and she wasjust - memories of her majesty. she was a lovely lady, and she wasjust our - lovely lady, and she was just our queen, the only queen we ever knew. all my life i have known at the queen, — all my life i have known at the queen, and she has always been there. _ queen, and she has always been there. and — queen, and she has always been there, and i've always looked up to her. there, and i've always looked up to her i_ there, and i've always looked up to her i am _ there, and i've always looked up to her. i am just broken hearted that she has— her. i am just broken hearted that she has gone. it�*s her. i am just broken hearted that she has gone-— her. i am just broken hearted that she has gone. it's a service for the eo - le she has gone. it's a service for the people above _ she has gone. it's a service for the people above everything, - she has gone. it's a service for the people above everything, and - she has gone. it's a service for the people above everything, and not| people above everything, and not many— people above everything, and not many pe0ple _ people above everything, and not many pe0ple will— people above everything, and not many people will be _ people above everything, and not many people will be working - people above everything, and not many people will be working until they are — many people will be working until they are 96. _ many people will be working until thevare 96, so— many people will be working until they are 96, so she _ many people will be working until they are 96, so she was- many people will be working until they are 96, so she was a - many people will be working until- they are 96, so she was a remarkable woman— they are 96, so she was a remarkable woman and _ they are 96, so she was a remarkable woman and we — they are 96, so she was a remarkable woman and we are _ they are 96, so she was a remarkable woman and we are all— they are 96, so she was a remarkable woman and we are all very— they are 96, so she was a remarkable woman and we are all very saddened i woman and we are all very saddened try woman and we are all very saddened by this _ woman and we are all very saddened b this. ~ , ._ , by this. when i stayed with my grandfather — by this. when i stayed with my grandfather back _ by this. when i stayed with my grandfather back in _ by this. when i stayed with my grandfather back in the - by this. when i stayed with my grandfather back in the 60s, i by this. when i stayed with my l grandfather back in the 60s, we by this. when i stayed with my - grandfather back in the 60s, we use to see the queen last thing at night before the tv went off, and i would say what is all this about, and i didn't know any better, but now ask me, and she means a lot. i’m didn't know any better, but now ask me, and she means a lot.— me, and she means a lot. i'm from the republic _ me, and she means a lot. i'm from the republic of _ me, and she means a lot. i'm from the republic of ireland _ me, and she means a lot. i'm from the republic of ireland in _ me, and she means a lot. i'm from the republic of ireland in dublin i the republic of ireland in dublin but l've — the republic of ireland in dublin but i've lived here for 30 odd years and her— but i've lived here for 30 odd years and her visit — but i've lived here for 30 odd years and her visit to the republic was seismic— and her visit to the republic was seismic in— and her visit to the republic was seismic in terms of the relationship between _ seismic in terms of the relationship between both parts of ireland and trying _ between both parts of ireland and trying to _ between both parts of ireland and trying to build a new way forward. i spent trying to build a new way forward. spent my trying to build a new way forward. i spent my whole life singing god save the queen _ spent my whole life singing god save the queen it's — spent my whole life singing god save the queen. it's not _ spent my whole life singing god save the queen. it's not going _ spent my whole life singing god save the queen. it's not going to - spent my whole life singing god save the queen. it's not going to be - spent my whole life singing god save the queen. it's not going to be easyl the queen. it's not going to be easy to change. _ the queen. it's not going to be easy to change. you — the queen. it's not going to be easy to change, you know? _ the queen. it's not going to be easy to change, you know? but— the queen. it's not going to be easy to change, you know? but we - the queen. it's not going to be easy to change, you know? but we are i to change, you know? but we are celebrating — to change, you know? but we are celebrating the _ to change, you know? but we are celebrating the coronation, - to change, you know? but we are celebrating the coronation, me i to change, you know? but we are | celebrating the coronation, me as to change, you know? but we are . celebrating the coronation, me as an ls-year-old. — celebrating the coronation, me as an 18-year-old. it — celebrating the coronation, me as an 18—year—old, it was _ celebrating the coronation, me as an 18—year—old, it was special, - celebrating the coronation, me as an 18—year—old, it was special, there . 18—year—old, it was special, there was flags— 18—year—old, it was special, there was flags everywhere, _ 18—year—old, it was special, there was flags everywhere, music, - 18—year—old, it was special, there| was flags everywhere, music, and 18—year—old, it was special, there - was flags everywhere, music, and my mother— was flags everywhere, music, and my mother brought — was flags everywhere, music, and my mother brought this _ was flags everywhere, music, and my mother brought this mug _ was flags everywhere, music, and my mother brought this mug and - was flags everywhere, music, and my mother brought this mug and then i was flags everywhere, music, and my| mother brought this mug and then we came home _ mother brought this mug and then we came home she — mother brought this mug and then we came home she said, _ mother brought this mug and then we came home she said, that— mother brought this mug and then we came home she said, that mug - mother brought this mug and then we came home she said, that mug is- mother brought this mug and then we came home she said, that mug is for| came home she said, that mug is for you. came home she said, that mug is for you you _ came home she said, that mug is for you you will — came home she said, that mug is for you. you will have _ came home she said, that mug is for you. you will have that _ came home she said, that mug is for you. you will have that mug - came home she said, that mug is for you. you will have that mug but - came home she said, that mug is for you. you will have that mug but youi you. you will have that mug but you will not _ you. you will have that mug but you will not have — you. you will have that mug but you will not have me. _ you. you will have that mug but you will not have me. so— you. you will have that mug but you will not have me. so it _ you. you will have that mug but you will not have me. so it really- you. you will have that mug but you will not have me. so it really has i will not have me. so it really has become — will not have me. so it really has become very— will not have me. so it really has become very special— will not have me. so it really has become very special to _ will not have me. so it really has become very special to me, - will not have me. so it really has become very special to me, you i will not have me. so it really has - become very special to me, you know? she had _ become very special to me, you know? she had time _ become very special to me, you know? she had time for— become very special to me, you know? she had time for everybody, _ become very special to me, you know? she had time for everybody, young - she had time for everybody, young and old. _ she had time for everybody, young and old. rich — she had time for everybody, young and old, rich and _ she had time for everybody, young and old, rich and poor. _ she had time for everybody, young and old, rich and poor. she - she had time for everybody, young and old, rich and poor. she was- she had time for everybody, young and old, rich and poor. she was a i and old, rich and poor. she was a wonderful— and old, rich and poor. she was a wonderful lady. _ and old, rich and poor. she was a wonderful lady.— and old, rich and poor. she was a wonderful lady. well, the new king is exoected — wonderful lady. well, the new king is exoected to _ wonderful lady. well, the new king is expected to arrive _ wonderful lady. well, the new king is expected to arrive in _ wonderful lady. well, the new king is expected to arrive in belfast - is expected to arrive in belfast shortly. northern ireland is, of course, no stranger to king charles. his first trip to the country took place was in the 1960s when he was just 12 years old, and he's made many frequent visits ever since. today's journey, however, many frequent visits ever since. today'sjourney, however, will be very different. it will be hard for anybody coming five days after the death of their mother, but today the king also bears the responsibility of coming to northern ireland for the very first time as monarch. paul, do you think that will be weighing heavily on the king's mind as he approaches belfast city airport? i as he approaches belfast city airort? ., as he approaches belfast city airort? . ., , ,., , as he approaches belfast city airort? ., ., , , . ., airport? i am absolutely certain, and i'm certain _ airport? i am absolutely certain, and i'm certain one _ airport? i am absolutely certain, and i'm certain one of— airport? i am absolutely certain, and i'm certain one of the - airport? i am absolutely certain, and i'm certain one of the key i and i'm certain one of the key themes today will be to respect the new belfast, the new northern ireland, as a place it has been changing and we talked about the 19605 changing and we talked about the 1960s earlier, it has changed in lots of ways. the demographic changes, the new community, the new chinese community is very important on one of the oldest communities, you could expect to find. the king always had an idea that he wanted to respect all faiths and i think you are going to fine an outreach not just of the two main communities in northern ireland but the entire community, and it's now a very different place, even a different place from the time when peter was secretary of state. we place from the time when peter was secretary of state.— secretary of state. we 'ust saw a icture of secretary of state. we 'ust saw a picture of what h secretary of state. we 'ust saw a picture of what we _ secretary of state. we just saw a picture of what we believe - secretary of state. we just saw a picture of what we believe was i secretary of state. we just saw a | picture of what we believe was the king's plane from our cameras in hillsborough. we think it will be arriving within the next five minutes or thereabouts. peter, arriving within the next five minutes orthereabouts. peter, i don't know how much contact you have had with the now king charles through the years, but as we were saying just before you joined us, he has had a long apprenticeship and studied at the knee of his mother for this very daunting role which he takes on. do you think we will see a huge difference in the way in which monarchy engages with people, particularly in a place like northern ireland, or will it effectively be as usual? i northern ireland, or will it effectively be as usual? i think his relationship _ effectively be as usual? i think his relationship with _ effectively be as usual? i think his relationship with the _ effectively be as usual? i think his relationship with the public - effectively be as usual? i think his relationship with the public will. effectively be as usual? i think his relationship with the public will be strong _ relationship with the public will be strong. he is a very outward going person _ strong. he is a very outward going person he — strong. he is a very outward going person. he loves meeting people. he has a _ person. he loves meeting people. he has a very— person. he loves meeting people. he has a very inquiring mind. he likes to inform— has a very inquiring mind. he likes to inform himself about people's lives _ to inform himself about people's lives and — to inform himself about people's lives and the conditions in which they— lives and the conditions in which they live — lives and the conditions in which they live and he has spent his entire — they live and he has spent his entire life _ they live and he has spent his entire life as prince of wales trying — entire life as prince of wales trying to— entire life as prince of wales trying to do something about those conditions. he has always sought to improve _ conditions. he has always sought to improve the lot of young people, young _ improve the lot of young people, young black people, people who have housing _ young black people, people who have housing problems, who live in troubled — housing problems, who live in troubled inner—city areas, the environment. as we know, he's made very clear. _ environment. as we know, he's made very clear. he — environment. as we know, he's made very clear, he will not be an activist _ very clear, he will not be an activist king and that is quite right — activist king and that is quite right he _ activist king and that is quite right. he can't be. but all of this, his experience as prince of wales, will inform — his experience as prince of wales, will inform his outlook as king and i will inform his outlook as king and i suspect— will inform his outlook as king and i suspect very strongly that he will pass on— i suspect very strongly that he will pass on a — i suspect very strongly that he will pass on a lot of his previous role to the _ pass on a lot of his previous role to the new— pass on a lot of his previous role to the new prince of wales. and when ou look at to the new prince of wales. and when you look at some _ to the new prince of wales. and when you look at some of _ to the new prince of wales. and when you look at some of the _ to the new prince of wales. and when you look at some of the things - to the new prince of wales. and when you look at some of the things he - you look at some of the things he has engaged in during the years, very difficult things, you can see he has stretched himself as well. he shook hands with gerry adams in galway in 2015 and the sinn fein president had publiclyjustified the ira's murder of the king's great uncle, lord mountbatten, to whom he was very close, and two years later when they met again, he shook hands, and he told gerry adams, he paid his condolences on the death of martin mcguinness and told gerry adams that he had written a letter to martin mcguinness�*s widow. it's quite interesting that he wrote a letter to mary lou mcdonald when he had to stretch himself when she had covid. he is a manual tradition, principles he is a manualtradition, principles of kingship. — he is a manualtradition, principles of kingship, and also very adaptable as an _ of kingship, and also very adaptable as an individual. i find him very forward — as an individual. i find him very forward looking and i think that is going _ forward looking and i think that is going to — forward looking and i think that is going to be one of the main of his reign _ going to be one of the main of his reign tide— going to be one of the main of his reiln. ~ . . ~ going to be one of the main of his reiln. . , . ,. , going to be one of the main of his rein. ~ , ,., going to be one of the main of his rein. ~ ,., ., reign. we will pick up on some of those points _ reign. we will pick up on some of those points in _ reign. we will pick up on some of those points in a _ reign. we will pick up on some of those points in a moment - reign. we will pick up on some of those points in a moment or- reign. we will pick up on some of those points in a moment or two| reign. we will pick up on some of. those points in a moment or two but let's turn our attention to george best belfast city airport where we can see the king's aircraft approaching, just touching down and it will pull on to the airport's victoria apron injust it will pull on to the airport's victoria apron in just a few moments to allow its passengers to disembark. and among those awaiting his majesty's arrival are the lord lieutenant of the county borough of belfast, who is a personalfriend of the king's, and we will hearfrom them later in the coverage. also there to greet him, the secretary of state for northern ireland, the right honourable chris heaton—harris mp, who has been in that role for a week today. so, big day for him, and then the chief executive of belfast city airport who is also in the welcoming party. it's also a very special morning as well for two children from one primary school in belfast, as lucas will present the king with the gift of a tin featuring an image of the giants causeway which contains some delicious truffles made by a company in castlerock, ironman —— i am told, and ella will present the king with and ella will present the king with a small posy of flowers picked at hillsborough castle. we will see them later. hillsborough castle. we will see them later-— hillsborough castle. we will see them later. �* , ., them later. one good thing, it's not raininl. them later. one good thing, it's not raining. sometimes _ them later. one good thing, it's not raining. sometimes when _ them later. one good thing, it's not raining. sometimes when you - them later. one good thing, it's not raining. sometimes when you land i them later. one good thing, it's not| raining. sometimes when you land at belfast city airport you have to walk in the rain. the belfast city airport you have to walk in the rain.— walk in the rain. the sun is shining- — walk in the rain. the sun is shining- lt _ walk in the rain. the sun is shining. it is _ walk in the rain. the sun is shining. it is quite - walk in the rain. the sun is shining. it is quite mild - walk in the rain. the sun is shining. it is quite mild in l walk in the rain. the sun is - shining. it is quite mild in belfast today, so we couldn't have done better than we have done as far as the weather is concerned, you are quite right, gloria. in the process, those two young people i mention will be two of the first people to welcome the royal couple to northern ireland as king and queen consort. so the plane will take a moment or two to taxi into its stand. a short enough hop overfrom edinburgh. it's worth making the point, gloria, that todayis worth making the point, gloria, that today is a very busy day for the king, and their are some formal and important moments he has to go through, the message of condolence inside hillsborough castle and then the service of remembrance for his mother, queen elizabeth ii in belfast cathedral later, but he has had a series of incredibly busy days will stop a full day yesterday in scotland. . ., will stop a full day yesterday in scotland. , ., ., ., scotland. yes, and to go back briefly to _ scotland. yes, and to go back briefly to the _ scotland. yes, and to go back briefly to the proclamation, . scotland. yes, and to go back briefly to the proclamation, i | briefly to the proclamation, i thought it was palpable that day, firstly what he said from an official point of view, but the feelings about his mother. you knew the relationship with her majesty was incredible. and last year i did an interview with the queen consort about osteoporosis, because she is patron of that, and she was also very passionate about a lot of issues and charities and things, and once again she came across to me as being very affable and very passionate, because her mum and grandmother had died from osteoporosis, so i think she has a lot to add in terms of her passion for what she believes in. yes. lot to add in terms of her passion for what she believes in. yes, she is travelling _ for what she believes in. yes, she is travelling with _ for what she believes in. yes, she is travelling with him _ for what she believes in. yes, she is travelling with him today - for what she believes in. yes, she is travelling with him today as - is travelling with him today as well, so it is a big day for her and it is herfirst well, so it is a big day for her and it is her first time well, so it is a big day for her and it is herfirst time in northern ireland in her new role although, of course, she has been in northern ireland many times in the past. they have visited together as a couple many times. and of course, they have enjoyed visiting the republic of ireland together.— enjoyed visiting the republic of| ireland together._ so enjoyed visiting the republic of - ireland together._ so the ireland together. exactly so. so the lane is ireland together. exactly so. so the plane is taxiing _ ireland together. exactly so. so the plane is taxiing to _ ireland together. exactly so. so the plane is taxiing to the _ ireland together. exactly so. so the plane is taxiing to the victoria - plane is taxiing to the victoria apron is, stand 21l plane is taxiing to the victoria apron is, stand 2a and it is a little distance from the main terminal building but hopefully in a moment or two it will come to a halt on the steps will come down and the king and queen consort will emerge, and we should catch sight of that welcoming party very soon as well. a big day for them, peter. you found yourself in this position before, in the line—up, waiting to greet people stepping out of cars or off planes and you hope everything goes according to plan. i and you hope everything goes according to plan.— and you hope everything goes according to plan. i hope i became luite according to plan. i hope i became quite good — according to plan. i hope i became quite good at _ according to plan. i hope i became quite good at it. _ according to plan. i hope i became quite good at it. actually, - according to plan. i hope i became quite good at it. actually, i - quite good at it. actually, i remember president clinton came, and that was— remember president clinton came, and that was a _ remember president clinton came, and that was a very, very memorable visit~ _ that was a very, very memorable visit~ he — that was a very, very memorable visit. he played a big part in the negotiations surrounding the peace agreement, but then he came back to bid farewell— agreement, but then he came back to bid farewell at the end of his presidency and i remember that very well. presidency and i remember that very well he _ presidency and i remember that very well. he had such a strong commitment to the peace agreement, and of— commitment to the peace agreement, and of course, the united states has always _ and of course, the united states has always been a sort of constant, constructive pressure to bring people — constructive pressure to bring people together, and i suspect that that will— people together, and i suspect that that will continue under president biden _ that will continue under president biden i_ that will continue under president biden. i wish the administration in the us, _ biden. i wish the administration in the us, i_ biden. i wish the administration in the us, iwish biden. i wish the administration in the us, i wish they had appointed an the us, iwish they had appointed an envoy— the us, i wish they had appointed an envoy for— the us, i wish they had appointed an envoy for northern ireland. they'd always _ envoy for northern ireland. they'd always had — envoy for northern ireland. they'd always had that before, someone who was familiar— always had that before, someone who was familiar with the views and tensions— was familiar with the views and tensions and pressures that exist on both sides _ tensions and pressures that exist on both sides of the community. it�*s both sides of the community. interesting given president biden's irish ancestry that he's chosen not to do that, but he has chosen to come to the state funeral for her majesty the on monday in london. it looks like their preparations for disembarkation are well advanced. the lord lieutenant of the county borough of belfastjust taking up her position at the bottom of the steps. she will be welcoming the king and queen consort as they step onto the tarmac. and alongside her, right honourable chris heaton—harris mp and the chief executive at city airport. we should spare a thought for lucas and ella from a primary school which draws children from all communities, the integrated education achievement is a significant one in northern ireland. that was a real landmark when you started to have integrated education, i rememberthat started to have integrated education, i remember that clearly. it's nice they have chosen those two children to be a part of that today. i can imagine they will be feeling quite nervous at the moment. what i can imagine they will be feeling quite nervous at the moment. what a -hotolra-h quite nervous at the moment. what a photograph to — quite nervous at the moment. what a photograph to her _ quite nervous at the moment. what a photograph to her for _ quite nervous at the moment. what a photograph to her for the _ quite nervous at the moment. what a photograph to her for the rest - quite nervous at the moment. what a photograph to her for the rest of - photograph to her for the rest of your life. but photograph to her for the rest of our life. �* , ., , your life. but they will immediately ut at their your life. but they will immediately put at their ease. _ your life. but they will immediately put at their ease. the _ your life. but they will immediately put at their ease. the king - your life. but they will immediately put at their ease. the king and - put at their ease. the king and queen— put at their ease. the king and queen consort are so good at calming and a _ queen consort are so good at calming and a light— queen consort are so good at calming and a light word, a light exchange, and a light word, a light exchange, a little _ and a light word, a light exchange, a little joke. that is what they are so good _ a little joke. that is what they are so good at — a little joke. that is what they are so good at— so good at. members of the entourage. _ so good at. members of the entourage, and _ so good at. members of the entourage, and that - so good at. members of the entourage, and that is - so good at. members of the entourage, and that is king | so good at. members of the - entourage, and that is king charles taking his first steps on to northern ireland soil in his new role as monarch, greeted warmly. they are as i say close friends. they are as i say close friends. they have developed a close friendship over the years. today manila is a trained singer. that is chris heaton—harris secretary of state for northern ireland. welcoming the king. that is quite an engagement to be doing seven days into thejob. then engagement to be doing seven days into the job. then we have matthew hall, chief executive of george best belfast city airport, also welcoming the king. you can see dame finilla welcoming the queen consort, now shaking hands with the secretary of state. and the children get their moment. this is lovely. this is young ella, and a lovely posy of flowers from the garden at hillsborough.— flowers from the garden at hillsborough. flowers from the garden at hillsborou . h. ,., , flowers from the garden at hillsborou . h. ,. , , hillsborough. their parents will be so thrilled at _ hillsborough. their parents will be so thrilled at this _ hillsborough. their parents will be so thrilled at this precise - hillsborough. their parents will be so thrilled at this precise second, l so thrilled at this precise second, won't they?— so thrilled at this precise second, won't they? you can imagine. and then kinl won't they? you can imagine. and then king charles _ won't they? you can imagine. and then king charles seems - won't they? you can imagine. and then king charles seems pleased l won't they? you can imagine. and - then king charles seems pleased with his tin of truffles from castle rock. those will slip neatly into his pocket. he rock. those will slip neatly into his pocket-— his pocket. he can eat those to sustain himself _ his pocket. he can eat those to sustain himself during - his pocket. he can eat those to sustain himself during the - his pocket. he can eat those to sustain himself during the day! his pocket. he can eat those to - sustain himself during the day! very often they receive _ sustain himself during the day! , often they receive gifts and hand them over to a member of their entourage but i see the king and queen consort are holding onto the flowers and truffles, getting ready to step into the car. in flowers and truffles, getting ready to step into the car.— to step into the car. in the castle they have _ to step into the car. in the castle they have tins — to step into the car. in the castle they have tins of— to step into the car. in the castle they have tins of biscuits - to step into the car. in the castle they have tins of biscuits in - to step into the car. in the castle they have tins of biscuits in the l they have tins of biscuits in the main drawing room sol they have tins of biscuits in the main drawing room so i don't think they will be hungry. find main drawing room so i don't think they will be hungry.— main drawing room so i don't think they will be hungry. and you can see they will be hungry. and you can see the main standard _ they will be hungry. and you can see the main standard on _ they will be hungry. and you can see the main standard on the _ they will be hungry. and you can see the main standard on the front - they will be hungry. and you can see the main standard on the front of. the main standard on the front of the main standard on the front of the car, and again peter, that's the first time prince charles will have travelled in a car in northern ireland with the royal standard upon it. it ireland with the royal standard upon it. , , ireland with the royal standard upon it, , , i: , ireland with the royal standard upon it. . . :: . it is, ireland with the royal standard upon it-— it is. but- it. it is his 40th visit. it is, but first as sovereign. _ it. it is his 40th visit. it is, but first as sovereign. so - it. it is his 40th visit. it is, but first as sovereign. so he - it. it is his 40th visit. it is, but first as sovereign. so he is - first as sovereign. so he is safely in the back of the car, and it pulls out from the apron where the plane landed, and it will make its way onto the motorway and it will then travel out to royal hillsborough. he has set off on his royal progress, almost 80 years after his mother first set foot in northern ireland. when the young princess elizabeth arrived then with her parents as part of a victory tour following ve day, it was a very different world. the cars and drivers were supplied by melvin and company limited belfast, funeral furnishers, by melvin and company limited belfast, funeralfurnishers, and the bill would you believe came to £78 three shillings and nine p. the bill for today would be considerably more than that. today the king's entourage will travel through street names which are testament to the fact this was once a city of empire, victoria street, queen ski, albert square and more recently elizabeth ii bridge. the destination, royal hillsborough, where the princess spent her first hillsborough, where the princess spent herfirst night in hillsborough, where the princess spent her first night in northern ireland on her visit in i9ll5. today it is a village well known to her son. the new king has stayed at hillsborough castle numerous times over the years and today it will once again play a central role in proceedings as it has for the past few days. it was there on sunday that the national proclamation was read by robert noel, the ulster king of arms in front of assembled guests. today hillsborough castle is where a message of condolence by the speaker of the northern ireland assembly will be delivered and where we will hear his majesty's first address as king in northern ireland. that will be at around 12.20 that he will arrive at royal hillsborough for the first time as king charles iii and probably slightly later than that now because he's running a little bit late, but someone close at hand to tell us moore is my colleague mark simpson. this at hand to tell us moore is my colleague mark simpson. this is the home from home _ colleague mark simpson. this is the home from home for _ colleague mark simpson. this is the home from home for the _ colleague mark simpson. this is the home from home for the royal- colleague mark simpson. this is the i home from home for the royal family in northern ireland, hillsborough castle. king charles knows it well. he's been here many times, though never before as monarch who. his first visit here was more than 60 years ago, way back in august 1961. he came with his mother, his father and his sister, princess anne, and they stayed here for two nights. nowadays there is a real community feel to hillsborough castle. you heard gloria hunniford talking about it earlier. in recent years the grounds have been open to the public and it is very much a castle at the heart of the community. just across the road from me there is a bus stop, there is a pub. i think what we will see when the moniker arrives within the next 20, 25 minutes or so is a kind of mix of the informal outside when he may meet well—wishers, and there are thousands of them, and the formalities of inside. politicians are waiting here to meet the new monarch and the queen consort camilla. they will have a meeting, they will talk and it will be politicians from right across the divide in belfast. unionists on the one hand, nationalists and republicans on the other hand as well. we do expect in the next half hour or so to hear the first words from king charles iii on northern irish soil. as we know, people across the board in northern ireland love their history. we are going to see a little bit of history here shortly. see a little bit of history here shortl . ., , ., , see a little bit of history here shortl . ., , ., shortly. royal hillsborough is a villale shortly. royal hillsborough is a villa . e i shortly. royal hillsborough is a village i know— shortly. royal hillsborough is a village i know fairly _ shortly. royal hillsborough is a village i know fairly well, - shortly. royal hillsborough is a village i know fairly well, in - shortly. royal hillsborough is a | village i know fairly well, in fact mark is quite right about the bus stop being near the king's front door. a former colleague of mine who gloria knows the too lives on the square describes being startled when he realised her majesty the queen was waving and he was in his dressing gown putting out the milk bottles. does that ring true? iéerl; bottles. does that ring true? very true. how bottles. does that ring true? very true- how has _ bottles. does that ring true? very true. how has it _ bottles. does that ring true? very true. how has it come _ bottles. does that ring true? very true. how has it come to - bottles. does that ring true? very true. how has it come to figure i bottles. does that ring true? veryj true. how has it come to figure so prominently _ true. how has it come to figure so prominently in _ true. how has it come to figure so prominently in major _ true. how has it come to figure so prominently in major affairs - true. how has it come to figure so prominently in major affairs of- prominently in major affairs of state and politics? the answer dates back more than 350 years. from the top of main street, the hills of belfast are clearly visible. it is a view that has been shared by queens and kings, presidents and prime ministers. the old coach road from dublin winds through the village, and in 1650, in order to protect it, so are the hill built a fort that was recognised in a royal charterfrom built a fort that was recognised in a royal charter from charles built a fort that was recognised in a royal charterfrom charles ii, hence hillsborough. but it was the fine house that stands just off the square that was to place the village at the centre of british and irish affairs. after the partition of ireland in 1921 it became the home of the first governor of northern ireland. with its distinctive character, hillsborough was separate from yet close to the economic and political heart of belfast. and it was here that the young princess elizabeth holidayed with her aunt, lady rose, and her uncle, earl granville, governor of northern ireland. so hillsborough castle became a home for the royal family, and the queen stayed here many times during her long reign. today it is her son who visited so often as prince who is welcomed back as king by the people of royal hillsborough. with me still, three people who know royal hillsborough and hillsborough castle in particular very well indeed. gloria hunniford, lord pugh and lord mandelson. gloria, you lived in the village, does it make you feel slightly homesick looking at those glorious pictures? i just at those glorious pictures? i 'ust said m at those glorious pictures? i 'ust sell my tummy i at those glorious pictures? i 'ust said my tummy has i at those glorious pictures? iijigie said my tummy has butterflies because i know every house, every building in the village. i think the king will be interested in the architecture because on the outskirts of the village they have built the most marvellous... i'm not going to call it in a state but different architecture, the most wonderful thing i've seen in a long time. it is the most pretty village and it is so friendly, it's wonderful.— and it is so friendly, it's wonderful. maybe i will be controversial _ wonderful. maybe i will be controversial here - wonderful. maybe i will be controversial here and - wonderful. maybe i will be controversial here and i i wonderful. maybe i will be l controversial here and i will wonderful. maybe i will be - controversial here and i will be criticised for this but i think many people would feel royal hillsborough would win the accolade for prettiest village in northern ireland. there would be a few decent contenders but it would be hard to beat royal hillsborough, wouldn't it? well, eseciall hillsborough, wouldn't it? well, especially today. _ hillsborough, wouldn't it? well, especially today. did _ hillsborough, wouldn't it? well, especially today. did you - hillsborough, wouldn't it? well, especially today. did you feel. especially today. did you feel nostall ic especially today. did you feel nostalgic looking _ especially today. did you feel nostalgic looking at - especially today. did you feel nostalgic looking at those - especially today. did you feel- nostalgic looking at those pictures? i did feel nostalgic. i was never by myself, _ i did feel nostalgic. i was never by myself, always protected, but there were times i remember when i was doing— were times i remember when i was doing things which perhaps were not so popular— doing things which perhaps were not so popular or people would sort of -ive so popular or people would sort of give a _ so popular or people would sort of give a little bit of a glare or a disapproving look, but i felt embraced. just seeing the pictures nowm _ embraced. just seeing the pictures now... , . embraced. just seeing the pictures now... , , ,., embraced. just seeing the pictures now... , ,. , embraced. just seeing the pictures now... , ,. now... just some pictures of the queen in hillsborough _ now... just some pictures of the queen in hillsborough castle, i now... just some pictures of the i queen in hillsborough castle, and it's interesting to see her meeting people because lots of events happened there. duke of edinburgh presentations were made and the annual garden parties. the garden arties annual garden parties. the garden parties were _ annual garden parties. the garden parties were very _ annual garden parties. the garden parties were very important. i i parties were very important. i remember a parties were very important. i remembera garden party parties were very important. i remember a garden party while i was secretary— remember a garden party while i was secretary of state and the then prince — secretary of state and the then prince of— secretary of state and the then prince of wales came. the night before, — prince of wales came. the night before, somebody had assembled a ladder— before, somebody had assembled a ladder and thrown an explosive device — ladder and thrown an explosive device over the security perimeter, over the _ device over the security perimeter, over the wall. there was a great force. _ over the wall. there was a great force. shall— over the wall. there was a great force, shall we cancel it? absolutely not, was the prince's view _ absolutely not, was the prince's view so — absolutely not, was the prince's view. so we went ahead, and he just charmed _ view. so we went ahead, and he just charmed everyone. i remember one lady in _ charmed everyone. i remember one lady in particular, she was the widow— lady in particular, she was the widow of— lady in particular, she was the widow of an officer who had been killed _ widow of an officer who had been killed he — widow of an officer who had been killed. he was going his way, i was going _ killed. he was going his way, i was going my— killed. he was going his way, i was going my way, and i met herand killed. he was going his way, i was going my way, and i met her and she had this— going my way, and i met her and she had this look— going my way, and i met her and she had this look of grief on her face. i had this look of grief on her face. i said. _ had this look of grief on her face. i said. why— had this look of grief on her face. i said, why don't you come and meet the prince _ i said, why don't you come and meet the prince of— i said, why don't you come and meet the prince of wales? why don't you say hello? — the prince of wales? why don't you say hello? she said i'm far too shy. i say hello? she said i'm far too shy. i put _ say hello? she said i'm far too shy. i put my— say hello? she said i'm far too shy. i put my arm — say hello? she said i'm far too shy. i put my arm around her and took her to the— i put my arm around her and took her to the prince, — i put my arm around her and took her to the prince, explained. he was with her— to the prince, explained. he was with her for— to the prince, explained. he was with her for five, six, to the prince, explained. he was with herforfive, six, seven minutes— with herforfive, six, seven minutes and she was so pleased. it made _ minutes and she was so pleased. it made all— minutes and she was so pleased. it made all the difference in the world to her _ made all the difference in the world to her for— made all the difference in the world to her for a — made all the difference in the world to her. fora man made all the difference in the world to her. for a man who sometimes people _ to her. for a man who sometimes people present as being slightly stiff or— people present as being slightly stiff or aloof, the truth could not be more — stiff or aloof, the truth could not be more different. you know, he's a very warm _ be more different. you know, he's a very warm person indeed and always find the _ very warm person indeed and always find the right words for whoever he is with _ find the right words for whoever he is with. . find the right words for whoever he is with. , ., .., , find the right words for whoever he iswith. , ., , , is with. helped of course by the fact hillsborough _ is with. helped of course by the fact hillsborough castle - is with. helped of course by the fact hillsborough castle is i is with. helped of course by the fact hillsborough castle is such | is with. helped of course by the l fact hillsborough castle is such a pleasant space to entertain in. you were talking about the dinner you are invited to by the then secretary of state paul murphy which brought together former cambridges, the prince was there. we saw a glimpse of the interior of the house and we will be showing live pictures of that later. it's very comfortable, and i took a public tour last year. very impressive indeed. it has a remarkable art collection. yes. very impressive indeed. it has a remarkable art collection. yes, a lot of work _ remarkable art collection. yes, a lot of work has _ remarkable art collection. yes, a lot of work has been _ remarkable art collection. yes, a lot of work has been done, i remarkable art collection. yes, aj lot of work has been done, some paintings have been neglected. people that you may be talking to later, chris did a greatjob in recovering and transforming the visage of the whole place. but what you will see if you go in as many of the great photographs of key moments in the peace process, and it is the front of hillsborough where tony blair said he felt the hand of history on his shoulders. there were a whole number of other key events held there. . . held there. this is quite remarkable. _ held there. this is quite remarkable. this - held there. this is quite remarkable. this is i held there. this is quite remarkable. this is a i held there. this is quite i remarkable. this is a picture held there. this is quite - remarkable. this is a picture on public view in hillsborough. peter, it's a former ira commander. yes. it's a former ira commander. yes, martin mcguinness. _ it's a former ira commander. yes, martin mcguinness. could you i it's a former ira commander. yes, | martin mcguinness. could you have envisaled martin mcguinness. could you have envisaged when _ martin mcguinness. could you have envisaged when you _ martin mcguinness. could you have envisaged when you were _ martin mcguinness. could you have envisaged when you were secretary martin mcguinness. could you have i envisaged when you were secretary of state that there would ever be a portrait of martin mcguinness on the walls? he was a formidable foe but also a formidable peacemaker and it's quite i’ilht formidable peacemaker and it's quite right his _ formidable peacemaker and it's quite right his picture is there. he contributed a huge amount. i found him variously both a bully and a charmer~ — him variously both a bully and a charmer. he was capable of both, i might— charmer. he was capable of both, i might say — charmer. he was capable of both, i might say. do charmer. he was capable of both, i milhtsa. ,. charmer. he was capable of both, i might say-— charmer. he was capable of both, i milhtsa. «a might say. do you think people might be surrised might say. do you think people might be surprised to _ might say. do you think people might be surprised to discover _ might say. do you think people might be surprised to discover that - might say. do you think people might be surprised to discover that that i be surprised to discover that that is actually on display in the castle? , ., , is actually on display in the castle? , ._ ., , , is actually on display in the castle? , ., , , , castle? they may do, but it is 'ust a reflection... i castle? they may do, but it is 'ust a reflection... ofi castle? they may do, but it is 'ust a reflection... of the i castle? they may do, but it is 'ust a reflection... of the journey. i castle? they may do, but it isjustl a reflection... of the journey. what a reflection... of the 'ourney. what has changed. h a reflection... of the 'ourney. what has changed, how i a reflection... of the journey. what has changed, how much _ a reflection... of the journey. what has changed, how much has - a reflection... of the journey. what has changed, how much has been l has changed, how much has been achieved, — has changed, how much has been achieved, the new northern ireland that has— achieved, the new northern ireland that has been created and which we have to _ that has been created and which we have to bend every single sinew in our bodies — have to bend every single sinew in our bodies to sustain. going through a period _ our bodies to sustain. going through a period of— our bodies to sustain. going through a period of political difficulty at the moment there is disagreement over the _ the moment there is disagreement over the post—brexit arrangements and the _ over the post—brexit arrangements and the trade arrangements, customs and the trade arrangements, customs and everything, and i always thought that when— and everything, and i always thought that when the treaty was made, the northern— that when the treaty was made, the northern ireland protocol, determining it would be difficult to apply. _ determining it would be difficult to apply, but it can be applied sensitively. itjust needs a little more _ sensitively. itjust needs a little more flex — sensitively. itjust needs a little more flex on both sides.- more flex on both sides. martin mcguinness. — more flex on both sides. martin mcguinness, of— more flex on both sides. martin mcguinness, of course, - more flex on both sides. martin mcguinness, of course, died i more flex on both sides. martin mcguinness, of course, died in| more flex on both sides. martin i mcguinness, of course, died in 2017, he was the sinn fein deputy first minister and served alongside ian paisley. paul, they were famously known as the chuckle brothers. again, a relationship that people would never have imagined a few years beforehand, but they became firm friends and work together very well. but martin mcguinness was very quick to sympathise publicly with ian paisley�*s wife whenever the former dup leader died, and we know there was a family exchange when martin mcguinness subsequently died, and ian paisleyjunior was very supportive of martin mcguinness on his death as well.— supportive of martin mcguinness on his death as well. that's completely true. and his death as well. that's completely true- and i'm _ his death as well. that's completely true. and i'm thinking _ his death as well. that's completely true. and i'm thinking of— true. and i'm thinking of hillsborough and i think of one, small, unconsidered incident that plays a role in bringing about this bit of history. in that first week, there was a moment where the politicians are milling around at the front of hillsborough and the cameras are on and david trimble, who recently died, as he walked by and the cameras were on, he stopped for a minute to talk to alison mcguinness and people haven't seen that, and it wasjust mcguinness and people haven't seen that, and it was just a mcguinness and people haven't seen that, and it wasjust a kind of crowd scene and it was just a few moments chat about something or other and i was well aware that david talked to martin before, but it was the first shot at hillsborough, and when i got home at night, people said, did you see that? and it was quite a positive reaction and the community was surprised to see he had stopped to have a few words just in the courtyard there, just an apparently trivial incident but in one way one of the seeds for the better northern ireland that came to be. you of the seeds for the better northern ireland that came to be.— ireland that came to be. you would know more — ireland that came to be. you would know more about _ ireland that came to be. you would know more about this _ ireland that came to be. you would know more about this than - ireland that came to be. you would know more about this than me, i ireland that came to be. you would| know more about this than me, but every— know more about this than me, but every time — know more about this than me, but every time i— know more about this than me, but every time i go _ know more about this than me, but every time i go to— know more about this than me, but every time i go to northern - know more about this than me, but every time i go to northern irelandl every time i go to northern ireland the one _ every time i go to northern ireland the one thing — every time i go to northern ireland the one thing i_ every time i go to northern ireland the one thing i am _ every time i go to northern ireland the one thing i am really— every time i go to northern ireland the one thing i am really conscious of is that— the one thing i am really conscious of is that young _ the one thing i am really conscious of is that young people _ the one thing i am really conscious of is that young people in - of is that young people in particular— of is that young people in particular want— of is that young people in particular want to - of is that young people in particular want to move l of is that young people in i particular want to move on. of is that young people in - particular want to move on. they hated _ particular want to move on. they hated the — particular want to move on. they hated the 30 _ particular want to move on. they hated the 30 odd _ particular want to move on. they hated the 30 odd years. - particular want to move on. they hated the 30 odd years.- particular want to move on. they hated the 30 odd years. clearly some eo - le hated the 30 odd years. clearly some --eole do. hated the 30 odd years. clearly some people do- you _ hated the 30 odd years. clearly some people do. you might _ hated the 30 odd years. clearly some people do. you might say _ hated the 30 odd years. clearly some people do. you might say most i hated the 30 odd years. clearly some | people do. you might say most people do but there are perhaps some who don't. i think the other thing that is interesting is there are a lot of young people who do not remember what it used to be like and they do not remember the dark days of the troubles. . not remember the dark days of the troubles. , ., ., ,., troubles. there is another point here, . troubles. there is another point here" there — troubles. there is another point here,. there is _ troubles. there is another point here,. there is a _ troubles. there is another point here,. there is a huge - troubles. there is another point| here,. there is a huge economic otential here,. there is a huge economic potential for— here,. there is a huge economic potential for northern _ here,. there is a huge economic potential for northern ireland i here,. there is a huge economic| potential for northern ireland we are starting to see emerge. in a sense— are starting to see emerge. in a sense they— are starting to see emerge. in a sense they are having the best of both worlds, access to the european market. _ both worlds, access to the european market, access to britain's market and if— market, access to britain's market and if only— market, access to britain's market and if only we can get the trade arrangements right, i honestly think northern— arrangements right, i honestly think northern ireland, economically, will really— northern ireland, economically, will really flourish and that gives me tremendousjoy and hope really flourish and that gives me tremendous joy and hope for the future _ tremendous joy and hope for the future of— tremendous joy and hope for the future of the place. | tremendous joy and hope for the future of the place.— future of the place. i think the kinl's future of the place. i think the king's arrival _ future of the place. i think the king's arrival in _ future of the place. i think the king's arrival in royal - future of the place. i think the i king's arrival in royal hillsborough is imminent. he has been travelling in his motorcade from george best belfast city airport to royal hillsborough, which is a journey of, what, 12 or 13 miles. hillsborough, which is a 'ourney of, what, 12 or 13 miles._ what, 12 or 13 miles. should take in about ten minutes _ what, 12 or 13 miles. should take in about ten minutes to _ what, 12 or 13 miles. should take in about ten minutes to go _ what, 12 or 13 miles. should take in about ten minutes to go from i about ten minutes to go from lisburn — about ten minutes to go from lisburn. ., ., ., lisburn. you would imagine he will not have lisburn. you would imagine he will rlot have big _ lisburn. you would imagine he will not have big difficulties _ lisburn. you would imagine he will not have big difficulties with i lisburn. you would imagine he will not have big difficulties with the i not have big difficulties with the traffic because the road will have been cleared. we are just looking at a shot from one of the cameras at the end of the village and hopefully we will pick up the royal entourage very shortly, and we can talk you through that as he makes his way into the village, and then up the main street. and we gather he will talk to members of the public who are waiting outside. we saw some pictures of people who were waiting patiently for the royal arrival. i think actually, gloria, we are looking at some of the new houses you were talking about. pl, looking at some of the new houses you were talking about. b. lat looking at some of the new houses you were talking about.— looking at some of the new houses you were talking about. a lot of new houses on the _ you were talking about. a lot of new houses on the outskirts. _ you were talking about. a lot of new houses on the outskirts. the - you were talking about. a lot of new houses on the outskirts. the one i you were talking about. a lot of new| houses on the outskirts. the one i'm talking _ houses on the outskirts. the one i'm talking about — houses on the outskirts. the one i'm talking about is — houses on the outskirts. the one i'm talking about is very— houses on the outskirts. the one i'm talking about is very close _ houses on the outskirts. the one i'm talking about is very close to - houses on the outskirts. the one i'm talking about is very close to the i talking about is very close to the village _ talking about is very close to the village but — talking about is very close to the village but i _ talking about is very close to the village but i was _ talking about is very close to the village but i was fascinated - talking about is very close to the village but i was fascinated by. talking about is very close to the village but i was fascinated by it| village but i was fascinated by it because, — village but i was fascinated by it because, architecturally, - village but i was fascinated by it because, architecturally, each l village but i was fascinated by it i because, architecturally, each house is different. — because, architecturally, each house is different. so— because, architecturally, each house is different, so i— because, architecturally, each house is different, so i think— because, architecturally, each house is different, so i think prince - is different, so i think prince charles— is different, so i think prince charles might _ is different, so i think prince charles might like _ is different, so i think prince charles might like this. i is different, so i think prince charles might like this. youl is different, so i think prince charles might like this. you think the kina charles might like this. you think the king will— charles might like this. you think the king will approve _ charles might like this. you think the king will approve of - charles might like this. you think the king will approve of the - the king will approve of the architecture? | the king will approve of the architecture?— the king will approve of the architecture? ~ in architecture? i think he might. it has certainly _ architecture? i think he might. it has certainly been _ architecture? i think he might. it has certainly been very _ has certainly been very sympathetically done, that is fair to say. but the centre of the village, which is georgian, is really untouched for generations. we are looking at pictures, and that is the square you can see, which is very busy. and a formal guard of honour is waiting. that is the gun salute ready for when the queen and queen consort enter the building —— the king there was an area where the vips can come to the gates of the castle. mere mortals do not get too close to it with their car. but obviously provision is being made for members of the public to get very close today, so the king and queen consort will have an opportunity to step out of the car and meet people who have made the effort to be there for them today. presuming there is time for them to do that. you today. presuming there is time for them to do that.— them to do that. you can see the area immediately _ them to do that. you can see the area immediately in _ them to do that. you can see the area immediately in front - them to do that. you can see the area immediately in front of - them to do that. you can see the area immediately in front of the l area immediately in front of the castle where people are kept back. we are looking at a helicopter shot of the royal motorcade making its way up the motorway, so we think he is very close to hillsborough now and he will turn off the main road to dublin for hillsborough. do you recognise this, gloria? i to dublin for hillsborough. do you recognise this, gloria?— recognise this, gloria? i do. very ha - recognise this, gloria? i do. very ha-- to recognise this, gloria? i do. very happy to be _ recognise this, gloria? i do. very happy to be here. _ recognise this, gloria? i do. very happy to be here, by _ recognise this, gloria? i do. very happy to be here, by the - recognise this, gloria? i do. very happy to be here, by the way, i recognise this, gloria? i do. very| happy to be here, by the way, but recognise this, gloria? i do. very l happy to be here, by the way, but i would _ happy to be here, by the way, but i would also — happy to be here, by the way, but i would also love _ happy to be here, by the way, but i would also love to _ happy to be here, by the way, but i would also love to be _ happy to be here, by the way, but i would also love to be at _ happy to be here, by the way, but i would also love to be at that - would also love to be at that barrier _ would also love to be at that barrier. ., ., ~' would also love to be at that barrier. ., ., ~ ., , barrier. you would like to be there? i would. i would _ barrier. you would like to be there? i would. i would love _ barrier. you would like to be there? i would. i would love to _ barrier. you would like to be there? i would. i would love to see - barrier. you would like to be there? i would. i would love to see some . barrier. you would like to be there? | i would. i would love to see some of our old _ i would. i would love to see some of our old neighbours— i would. i would love to see some of our old neighbours and _ i would. i would love to see some of our old neighbours and friends - i would. i would love to see some of our old neighbours and friends and i our old neighbours and friends and see the _ our old neighbours and friends and see the excitement, _ our old neighbours and friends and see the excitement, and _ our old neighbours and friends and see the excitement, and i- our old neighbours and friends and see the excitement, and i know. our old neighbours and friends and i see the excitement, and i know that it will— see the excitement, and i know that it will be _ see the excitement, and i know that it will be an — see the excitement, and i know that it will be an amazing _ see the excitement, and i know that it will be an amazing day— see the excitement, and i know that it will be an amazing day for- it will be an amazing day for hillsborough _ it will be an amazing day for hillsborough and _ it will be an amazing day for hillsborough and beyond. i it will be an amazing day for. hillsborough and beyond. lots it will be an amazing day for hillsborough and beyond. lots of children there. _ hillsborough and beyond. lots of children there. the _ hillsborough and beyond. lots of children there. the brownies, . hillsborough and beyond. lots of| children there. the brownies, cub scouts, guides waiting in line. i suppose it is a day off school for them. and it is something, as you said, something they will be able to tell their children and perhaps their grandchildren about. just as you have been reflecting on 1953. yes, exactly. there have been crowds in london _ yes, exactly. there have been crowds in london where — yes, exactly. there have been crowds in london where people _ yes, exactly. there have been crowds in london where people have - yes, exactly. there have been crowds in london where people have brought| in london where people have brought their children — in london where people have brought their children and _ in london where people have brought their children and the _ in london where people have brought their children and the child _ in london where people have brought their children and the child might - their children and the child might be one—year—old _ their children and the child might be one—year—old but— their children and the child might be one—year—old but the - their children and the child might be one—year—old but the motheri their children and the child might. be one—year—old but the mother will say, be one—year—old but the mother will say. i— be one—year—old but the mother will say, iwill— be one—year—old but the mother will say, i will tell— be one—year—old but the mother will say, i will tell them _ be one—year—old but the mother will say, i will tell them eventually. - be one—year—old but the mother will say, i will tell them eventually. 50 l say, iwill tell them eventually. so there say, i will tell them eventually. there we see some movement, say, i will tell them eventually.“ there we see some movement, some police outriders, so those waiting on the village streets will not have much longer to wait. we can see there the royal entourage approaching. certainly the outriders and the king is about to arrive in royal hillsborough for the first time in his new role as monarch. lots of police outriders. we should hopefully see a shot of the car coming in to the bottom end of the village very shortly. they will be coming in on lisburn street and will make their way up. so, there we have them. the car is making their way along lisburn streetjust at them. the car is making their way along lisburn street just at the moment. and as they pass the junction, the dark stone wall you can see surrounding the grounds of hillsborough castle begins. find hillsborough castle begins. and peter will know _ hillsborough castle begins. and peter will know that the pub is coming — peter will know that the pub is coming up _ peter will know that the pub is coming up on _ peter will know that the pub is coming up on the _ peter will know that the pub is coming up on the right. - peter will know that the pub is coming up on the right. the i peter will know that the pub is coming up on the right. the estate, in fact, is coming up on the right. the estate, in fact. is very _ coming up on the right. the estate, in fact, is very large. _ coming up on the right. the estate, in fact, is very large. the _ coming up on the right. the estate, in fact, is very large. the park - coming up on the right. the estate, in fact, is very large. the park is . in fact, is very large. the park is hue. in fact, is very large. the park is huge- yes. _ in fact, is very large. the park is huge- yes. it — in fact, is very large. the park is huge. yes, it is. _ in fact, is very large. the park is huge. yes, it is. and _ in fact, is very large. the park is huge. yes, it is. and secure. - in fact, is very large. the park is i huge. yes, it is. and secure. well, it's a very — huge. yes, it is. and secure. well, it's a very big. _ huge. yes, it is. and secure. well, it's a very big. high _ huge. yes, it is. and secure. well, it's a very big, high wall. _ huge. yes, it is. and secure. well, it's a very big, high wall. it's - huge. yes, it is. and secure. well, it's a very big, high wall. it's a - it's a very big, high wall. it's a very big. _ it's a very big, high wall. it's a very big. high _ it's a very big, high wall. it's a very big, high wall— it's a very big, high wall. it's a very big, high wall and - it's a very big, high wall. it's a very big, high wall and it - it's a very big, high wall. it's a very big, high wall and it doesj it's a very big, high wall. it's a very big, high wall and it does give everyone _ very big, high wall and it does give everyone an enormous sense of freedom — everyone an enormous sense of freedom when they were in those grounds — freedom when they were in those grounds. many was the time i would walk around with gerry adams or mariin— walk around with gerry adams or martin mcguinness or david trimble, trying _ martin mcguinness or david trimble, trying to— martin mcguinness or david trimble, trying to sort of tease things out and find — trying to sort of tease things out and find a — trying to sort of tease things out and find a way forward. walking around — and find a way forward. walking around those grounds was always a sort of _ around those grounds was always a sort of balm for the problems you are experiencing. you sort of balm for the problems you are experiencing.— are experiencing. you have to say the house — are experiencing. you have to say the house itself _ are experiencing. you have to say the house itself with _ are experiencing. you have to say the house itself with the - are experiencing. you have to say the house itself with the castle, l are experiencing. you have to sayj the house itself with the castle, it is warm _ the house itself with the castle, it is warm in— the house itself with the castle, it is warm in its— the house itself with the castle, it is warm in its furnishings, - the house itself with the castle, it is warm in its furnishings, it - the house itself with the castle, it is warm in its furnishings, it is - the house itself with the castle, it is warm in its furnishings, it is a l is warm in its furnishings, it is a wraparound. _ is warm in its furnishings, it is a wraparound. it— is warm in its furnishings, it is a wraparound. it is— is warm in its furnishings, it is a wraparound, it is inviting - is warm in its furnishings, it is a wraparound, it is inviting and i is warm in its furnishings, it is a i wraparound, it is inviting and there is nothing — wraparound, it is inviting and there is nothing austere _ wraparound, it is inviting and there is nothing austere about _ wraparound, it is inviting and there is nothing austere about it. - wraparound, it is inviting and there is nothing austere about it. it- wraparound, it is inviting and there is nothing austere about it. it is- wraparound, it is inviting and there is nothing austere about it. it is a i is nothing austere about it. it is a home _ is nothing austere about it. it is a home it— is nothing austere about it. it is a home. . . is nothing austere about it. it is a home. , , . home. it is interesting that the ro . ress home. it is interesting that the progress is _ home. it is interesting that the progress is slow _ home. it is interesting that the progress is slow here, - home. it is interesting that the progress is slow here, and - home. it is interesting that the progress is slow here, and i i home. it is interesting that the - progress is slow here, and i suppose the reason is that a lot of people have turned out and the motorcade is deliberately driving slowly so that people who have gathered will have an opportunity to catch a glimpse of the king and queen consort. there is no real reason for anybody else to be on the street today. that is what people are therefore, and certainly people are therefore, and certainly people up near the castle itself will be hoping that the king and queen consort will take time to have a chat and look at the tributes left, because many have been left to the queen on the square just in front of the castle. so they have, lisburn street —— they have come up lisburn street —— they have come up lisburn street, and then we saw the presbyterian church and there is the point at which people are entering the original village proper, beginning with a typical northern ireland rural street with mainly two—storey rows of houses opening straight onto the street following the line of the old belfast to dublin coach road. and you can see them now... b. dublin coach road. and you can see them new - -— dublin coach road. and you can see i them now. . ._ coming them now... a short distance. coming u . them now... a short distance. coming u- ast them now... a short distance. coming on past the — them now... a short distance. coming up past the parish _ them now... a short distance. coming up past the parish church _ them now... a short distance. coming up past the parish church now - them now... a short distance. coming up past the parish church now and - up past the parish church now and this week the church bells have been ringing, apl not heard since 1952 which we will ringing, apl not heard since1952 which we will learn more about shortly. and unveiled three decades earlier to mark the anniversary royal hillsborough and surrounding villages and is the vehicle main street, the houses in this historic georgian settlement become a bit larger, more imposing, more important looking. that was your end, i assume, important looking. that was your end, iassume, gloria. as you important looking. that was your end, i assume, gloria. as you get home closer to the heart of the castle itself. it is quite grand. it castle itself. it is quite grand. it is quite grand in the cars will turn into the _ is quite grand in the cars will turn into the main— is quite grand in the cars will turn into the main gate. _ is quite grand in the cars will turn into the main gate. the _ is quite grand in the cars will turn into the main gate. the georgian| into the main gate. the georgian houses _ into the main gate. the georgian houses on — into the main gate. the georgian houses on the _ into the main gate. the georgian houses on the right—hand - into the main gate. the georgian houses on the right—hand side i into the main gate. the georgian| houses on the right—hand side are still in _ houses on the right—hand side are still in perfect _ houses on the right—hand side are still in perfect condition _ houses on the right—hand side are still in perfect condition and - still in perfect condition and beautifut _ still in perfect condition and beautiful. i— still in perfect condition and beautiful. i agree _ still in perfect condition and beautiful. i agree with - still in perfect condition and beautiful. i agree with you, | still in perfect condition andl beautiful. i agree with you, i still in perfect condition and - beautiful. i agree with you, i think it is the _ beautiful. i agree with you, i think it is the prettiest _ beautiful. i agree with you, i think it is the prettiest village _ beautiful. i agree with you, i think it is the prettiest village in - it is the prettiest village in northern— it is the prettiest village in northern ireland, - it is the prettiest village in northern ireland, i- it is the prettiest village in northern ireland, i am - it is the prettiest village in northern ireland, i am not it is the prettiest village in - northern ireland, i am not biased. i think northern ireland, i am not biased. think it is. you can see some of northern ireland, i am not biased.“ think it is. you can see some of the archways behind the crowds on the days when carriage access to the rear of the building beyond the main street was required. and there is the turn. the vehicle pulling into the turn. the vehicle pulling into the small square beside hillsborough castle's entrance. it was originally a marketplace with a stone building at its centre which was once a court out and until recently home to the village's visitor information centre. and there is king charles iii, emerging from his vehicle. camilla, queen consort, by his side. being greeted their by the lord lieutenant of county down, rowan hamilton, and as it happens he lives in his own rather impressive castle 30 miles away, reportedly northern ireland's oldest inhabited castle. i ireland's oldest inhabited castle. i love it when they do a walkabout. and this _ love it when they do a walkabout. and this is — love it when they do a walkabout. and this is the — love it when they do a walkabout. and this is the walkabout - and this is the walkabout that certainly everybody in the crowd will have been hoping for. the queen consort and king shaking hands. look at those boys — consort and king shaking hands. look at those boys faces. _ consort and king shaking hands. look at those boys faces. the thrill. lots _ at those boys faces. the thrill. lots of— at those boys faces. the thrill. lots of outstretched hands. i always feel sorry for the people whose hands are proffered and not shaken. you can't shake them all. lats hands are proffered and not shaken. you can't shake them all.— you can't shake them all. lots of mobile phones _ you can't shake them all. lots of mobile phones taking _ you can't shake them all. lots of mobile phones taking pictures i mobile phones taking pictures as well. �* ., , . . , .~ well. and the ones that are shaken do not aet well. and the ones that are shaken do not get washed _ well. and the ones that are shaken do not get washed for _ well. and the ones that are shaken do not get washed for ages. - well. and the ones that are shaken do not get washed for ages. lots i well. and the ones that are shaken | do not get washed for ages. lots of schoolchildren _ do not get washed for ages. lots of schoolchildren in _ do not get washed for ages. lots of schoolchildren in the _ do not get washed for ages. lots of schoolchildren in the front. - do not get washed for ages. lots of schoolchildren in the front. they i schoolchildren in the front. they looked pleased to be there. i like looked pleased to be there. i like that. kina looked pleased to be there. i like that. king charles _ looked pleased to be there. i like that. king charles using - looked pleased to be there. i like that. king charles using both - looked pleased to be there. i like l that. king charles using both hands to ureet that. king charles using both hands to greet people- — that. king charles using both hands to greet people. and _ that. king charles using both hands to greet people. and they - that. king charles using both hands to greet people. and they really - that. king charles using both hands| to greet people. and they really are right up beside the gates of the castle here, peter. just a matter of a few steps away. just castle here, peter. just a matter of a few steps away-— a few steps away. just through the ates is a few steps away. just through the rates is a a few steps away. just through the gates is a very _ a few steps away. just through the gates is a very large _ a few steps away. just through the gates is a very large circular - a few steps away. just through the gates is a very large circular lawn l gates is a very large circular lawn and it— gates is a very large circular lawn and itjust — gates is a very large circular lawn and itjust reminded me of another bobby— and itjust reminded me of another bobby story. the day of the queen's visit for— bobby story. the day of the queen's visit for the — bobby story. the day of the queen's visit for the george cross, bobby chose _ visit for the george cross, bobby chose that— visit for the george cross, bobby chose that day to dig up an ancient bone _ chose that day to dig up an ancient bone right— chose that day to dig up an ancient bone right in the middle of the circular— bone right in the middle of the circular lawn. it was quickly relayed, _ circular lawn. it was quickly relayed, but they were not happy. bobby— relayed, but they were not happy. bobby had never done anything like that before or since, i might say. bobby— that before or since, i might say. bobbv was— that before or since, i might say. bobby was clearly his own man. we are going to see the very imposing gates at the front of hillsborough castle in a moment. not an original feature of hillsborough castle, somewhat controversially, the gates were removed from rich hill castle in 1936 before being later installed at royal hillsborough castle and the gates had originally been erected in ridge stop some people think it is inappropriate that they have been taken. ~ ., . , inappropriate that they have been taken. ., . , , ., inappropriate that they have been taken. ~ ., . , , ., , taken. who decided they should be liberated from _ taken. who decided they should be liberated from there? _ taken. who decided they should be liberated from there? i _ taken. who decided they should be liberated from there? i am - taken. who decided they should be liberated from there? i am not - taken. who decided they should be l liberated from there? i am not sure. whoever it was _ liberated from there? i am not sure. whoever it was is _ liberated from there? i am not sure. whoever it was is not _ liberated from there? i am not sure. whoever it was is not around - liberated from there? i am not sure. whoever it was is not around to - whoever it was is not around to speak for him whoever it was is not around to speakfor him or whoever it was is not around to speak for him or herself these days. flowers being offered. the people look very happy, gloria, and king charles and the queen consort looked equally happy. yes. consort looked equally happy. yes, and the lead _ consort looked equally happy. yes, and the lead pp _ consort looked equally happy. yes, and the lead up to _ consort looked equally happy. yes, and the lead up to this _ consort looked equally happy. use: and the lead up to this particular day has been enormous. the village has been scrutinised and i'm told by some friends back there that you couldn't get into the village today. todayit couldn't get into the village today. today it is full. the excitement, you can just feel it really and i still have some butterflies in my tummy. coming up the hill, you know every shop you went to, the butchers on the left—hand side and, you know, just familiarity really. i’m on the left-hand side and, you know, just familiarity really.— just familiarity really. i'm sure the people _ just familiarity really. i'm sure the people of— just familiarity really. i'm sure the people of hillsborough, i just familiarity really. i'm sure the people of hillsborough, if| just familiarity really. i'm sure - the people of hillsborough, if they have recorded this and they are watching it later, they will be very pleased you are here speaking on their behalf and giving such a special insight into the background of the village, such a of the village, and why it is such a special place. i of the village, and why it is such a special place-— special place. i think because it is small and intimate _ special place. i think because it is small and intimate and _ special place. i think because it is small and intimate and everybody knows everybody else. as peter might know, it is a disadvantage when everyone knows your business but on the other hand it is a nice feeling. when i left hillsborough to come to london i couldn't believe that people didn't speak to each other in the lift and so on.— the lift and so on. always free with their views! _ the lift and so on. always free with their views! did _ the lift and so on. always free with their views! did they _ the lift and so on. always free with their views! did they tell _ the lift and so on. always free with their views! did they tell you - the lift and so on. always free with their views! did they tell you if - their views! did they tell you if ou their views! did they tell you if you weren't — their views! did they tell you if you weren't getting _ their views! did they tell you if you weren't getting quite - their views! did they tell you if. you weren't getting quite right? their views! did they tell you if - you weren't getting quite right? as secretary of state you never get it i’i l ht secretary of state you never get it right at _ secretary of state you never get it right at all— secretary of state you never get it right at all times _ secretary of state you never get it right at all times and _ secretary of state you never get it right at all times and sometimes i secretary of state you never get it. right at all times and sometimes you offend _ right at all times and sometimes you offend everyone _ right at all times and sometimes you offend everyone. you _ right at all times and sometimes you offend everyone. you disappoint - right at all times and sometimes you| offend everyone. you disappoint both sides. _ offend everyone. you disappoint both sides, therefore _ offend everyone. you disappoint both sides, therefore you _ offend everyone. you disappoint both sides, therefore you are _ offend everyone. you disappoint both sides, therefore you are almost - sides, therefore you are almost equally— sides, therefore you are almost equally criticised. _ sides, therefore you are almost equally criticised.— equally criticised. look at the number of — equally criticised. look at the number of people. _ equally criticised. look at the number of people. i - equally criticised. look at the number of people. i have - equally criticised. look at the number of people. i have to i equally criticised. look at the i number of people. i have to tell you, the way the irish talk, you might have to look at this for quite a long time. it might have to look at this for quite a long time-— a long time. it is interesting because the _ a long time. it is interesting because the schedule - a long time. it is interesting because the schedule has i a long time. it is interesting - because the schedule has slipped a little bit, but there is no sense that the king and queen consort want to rush this. they obviously feel it is an important part of the process, paul. because if this is about the new king getting around the united kingdom and meeting his people, this kind of face—to—face interaction is very important. kind of face-to-face interaction is very important-— very important. yes, it definitely is. very important. yes, it definitely is- there's _ very important. yes, it definitely is. there's no _ very important. yes, it definitely is. there's no question. - very important. yes, it definitely is. there's no question. it - very important. yes, it definitely is. there's no question. it bringsj is. there's no question. it brings home _ is. there's no question. it brings home the — is. there's no question. it brings home the point about the monarchy that it _ home the point about the monarchy that it is _ home the point about the monarchy that it is a _ home the point about the monarchy that it is a force for stability. one — that it is a force for stability. one of— that it is a force for stability. one of the things the stability 0ne of the things the stability works— one of the things the stability works for is in the survival of the united _ works for is in the survival of the united kingdom which is not something we can take for granted at this particular moment. but the monarchy— this particular moment. but the monarchy as a force for stability is no question. all four nations of the united _ no question. all four nations of the united kingdom. and you can see the way that— united kingdom. and you can see the way that is— united kingdom. and you can see the way that is playing out in hillsborough, the whole attitude of the crowd _ hillsborough, the whole attitude of the crowd and the pleasure of the crowd _ the crowd and the pleasure of the crowd is _ the crowd and the pleasure of the crowd is taking in this occasion and the warmth — crowd is taking in this occasion and the warmth with which the king and queen— the warmth with which the king and queen consort are responding to the crowd _ queen consort are responding to the crowd which is very striking. they are a _ crowd which is very striking. they are a bit— crowd which is very striking. they are a bit behind time, not rushing it. , ,., are a bit behind time, not rushing it. , , are a bit behind time, not rushing it. there is some pomp and ceremony to come. it. there is some pomp and ceremony to come- we — it. there is some pomp and ceremony to come. we have _ it. there is some pomp and ceremony to come. we have a _ it. there is some pomp and ceremony to come. we have a 21 _ it. there is some pomp and ceremony to come. we have a 21 gun _ it. there is some pomp and ceremony to come. we have a 21 gun salute - to come. we have a 21 gun salute very shortly, when the king and queen consort actually go through the state entrance. then there will be an interesting change with the flag. peter, you will be familiar with this as well because the union flag will be replaced by the royal standard as the couple enter the grounds. again, that will be the first time the hillsborough castle has flown the royal standard for king charles. for has flown the royal standard for king charles-— king charles. for the king, yes. yes, king charles. for the king, yes. yes. you _ king charles. for the king, yes. yes. you really _ king charles. for the king, yes. yes, you really have _ king charles. for the king, yes. yes, you really have the - king charles. for the king, yes. yes, you really have the feeling king charles. for the king, yes. i yes, you really have the feeling of a totally historic day, don't you? when you are watching. this a totally historic day, don't you? when you are watching.- a totally historic day, don't you? when you are watching. this will be lonr in when you are watching. this will be long in people's _ when you are watching. this will be long in people's memories, - when you are watching. this will be long in people's memories, there i when you are watching. this will be j long in people's memories, there is no question— long in people's memories, there is no question of— long in people's memories, there is no question of that. _ long in people's memories, there is no question of that. the _ long in people's memories, there is no question of that.— no question of that. the thing i also loved _ no question of that. the thing i also loved on _ no question of that. the thing i also loved on some _ no question of that. the thing i also loved on some of- no question of that. the thing i also loved on some of the - no question of that. the thing i | also loved on some of the other walkabouts with the king is people felt they could give him a kiss or a hug. felt they could give him a kiss or a hur. ~ ., felt they could give him a kiss or a hug. i think a couple of days ago someone asked _ hug. i think a couple of days ago someone asked if _ hug. i think a couple of days ago someone asked if she _ hug. i think a couple of days ago someone asked if she could - hug. i think a couple of days ago someone asked if she could kiss| hug. i think a couple of days ago - someone asked if she could kiss him and he said yes, and she did. somebody else kissed his hand. so he has that approachability really. peter, you are going to say something? fist peter, you are going to say something?— peter, you are going to say something? peter, you are going to say somethinr? . , . �* something? at least his hand wasn't licked! well. — something? at least his hand wasn't licked! well, he — something? at least his hand wasn't licked! well, he has _ something? at least his hand wasn't licked! well, he has not _ something? at least his hand wasn't licked! well, he has not met - something? at least his hand wasn't licked! well, he has not met bobby. | licked! well, he has not met bobby. i 'ust want licked! well, he has not met bobby. ijust want to _ licked! well, he has not met bobby. i just want to make _ licked! well, he has not met bobby. i just want to make a _ licked! well, he has not met bobby. i just want to make a point - licked! well, he has not met bobby. i just want to make a point about. ijust want to make a point about the queen— ijust want to make a point about the queen consort. _ ijust want to make a point about the queen consort. 20 _ ijust want to make a point about the queen consort. 20 years- ijust want to make a point abouti the queen consort. 20 years ago, ijust want to make a point about - the queen consort. 20 years ago, one wouldn't _ the queen consort. 20 years ago, one wouldn't imagine — the queen consort. 20 years ago, one wouldn't imagine her— the queen consort. 20 years ago, one wouldn't imagine her being _ the queen consort. 20 years ago, one wouldn't imagine her being embracedl wouldn't imagine her being embraced in quite _ wouldn't imagine her being embraced in quite the _ wouldn't imagine her being embraced in quite the way— wouldn't imagine her being embraced in quite the way she _ wouldn't imagine her being embraced in quite the way she has _ wouldn't imagine her being embraced in quite the way she has with - wouldn't imagine her being embraced in quite the way she has with such - in quite the way she has with such warmth _ in quite the way she has with such warmth by— in quite the way she has with such warmth by the _ in quite the way she has with such warmth by the public. _ in quite the way she has with such warmth by the public. we - in quite the way she has with such warmth by the public. we are - in quite the way she has with such warmth by the public. we are in l in quite the way she has with such i warmth by the public. we are in the aftermath— warmth by the public. we are in the aftermath of— warmth by the public. we are in the aftermath of a — warmth by the public. we are in the aftermath of a very _ warmth by the public. we are in the aftermath of a very difficult - aftermath of a very difficult period. _ aftermath of a very difficult period. and _ aftermath of a very difficult period, and the _ aftermath of a very difficult - period, and the transformation that she has— period, and the transformation that she has undergone _ period, and the transformation that she has undergone in— period, and the transformation that she has undergone in her— she has undergone in her relationship _ she has undergone in her relationship with- she has undergone in her relationship with the - she has undergone in her. relationship with the public i she has undergone in her- relationship with the public i think is very— relationship with the public i think is very striking _ relationship with the public i think is very striking indeed. _ relationship with the public i think is very striking indeed. she - relationship with the public i think is very striking indeed. she hasn'tj is very striking indeed. she hasn't forced _ is very striking indeed. she hasn't forced it. — is very striking indeed. she hasn't forced it. she _ is very striking indeed. she hasn't forced it, she has _ is very striking indeed. she hasn't forced it, she has taken _ is very striking indeed. she hasn't forced it, she has taken things- is very striking indeed. she hasn'tl forced it, she has taken things one step at— forced it, she has taken things one step at a _ forced it, she has taken things one step at a time _ forced it, she has taken things one step at a time. she _ forced it, she has taken things one step at a time. she has— forced it, she has taken things one step at a time. she has i— forced it, she has taken things one step at a time. she has i think- step at a time. she has i think being— step at a time. she has i think being very— step at a time. she has i think being very well— step at a time. she has i think being very welljudged - step at a time. she has i think being very welljudged in - step at a time. she has i think being very welljudged in the i step at a time. she has i think. being very welljudged in the way she has— being very welljudged in the way she has approached _ being very welljudged in the way she has approached what - being very welljudged in the way she has approached what could . being very welljudged in the way i she has approached what could have been a _ she has approached what could have been a very— she has approached what could have been a very difficult. _ she has approached what could have been a very difficult. i _ she has approached what could have been a very difficult.— been a very difficult. i think she took a lot _ been a very difficult. i think she took a lot of— been a very difficult. i think she took a lot of advice, _ been a very difficult. i think she took a lot of advice, i'm - been a very difficult. i think she i took a lot of advice, i'm surmising this from the queen, because the queen never complains, never explains, and queen consort has followed that. because as you rightly say, 20 years ago she had a lot to deal with but she has managed to ride that out and she is very warmly received now. i thought the king talked very beautifully about her at the proclamation and beyond. the king uses the word love more than once — the king uses the word love more than once in— the king uses the word love more than once in a— the king uses the word love more than once in a very— the king uses the word love more than once in a very striking - the king uses the word love more than once in a very striking way. the king uses the word love more than once in a very striking way inj than once in a very striking way in his broadcast _ than once in a very striking way in his broadcast.— than once in a very striking way in his broadcast. yes. not— than once in a very striking way in his broadcast. yes. notjust i than once in a very striking way in his broadcast. yes. notjust in i his broadcast. yes. not 'ust in relation to i his broadcast. yes. not 'ust in relation to his * his broadcast. yes. not 'ust in relation to his wife, _ his broadcast.“ notjust in relation to his wife, but - his broadcast.“ notjust in relation to his wife, but againi his broadcast.“ notjust in. relation to his wife, but again it is somebody— relation to his wife, but again it is somebody who _ relation to his wife, but again it is somebody who in _ relation to his wife, but again it is somebody who in the - relation to his wife, but again it is somebody who in the past. relation to his wife, but again itl is somebody who in the past has relation to his wife, but again it - is somebody who in the past has been portrayed _ is somebody who in the past has been portrayed as _ is somebody who in the past has been portrayed as slightly— is somebody who in the past has been portrayed as slightly remote, - portrayed as slightly remote, slightly— portrayed as slightly remote, slightly chilly~ _ portrayed as slightly remote, slightly chilly. i— portrayed as slightly remote, slightly chilly. i think - portrayed as slightly remote, slightly chilly. i think peoplel portrayed as slightly remote, i slightly chilly. i think people are really— slightly chilly. i think people are really seeing _ slightly chilly. i think people are really seeing in _ slightly chilly. i think people are really seeing in him _ slightly chilly. i think people are really seeing in him a _ slightly chilly. i think people are really seeing in him a warmth. l slightly chilly. i think people are i really seeing in him a warmth. he really— really seeing in him a warmth. he really is _ really seeing in him a warmth. he really is in — really seeing in him a warmth. he really is in a — really seeing in him a warmth. he really is in a sense _ really seeing in him a warmth. he really is in a sense quite - really seeing in him a warmth. he really is in a sense quite an - really is in a sense quite an ordinary— really is in a sense quite an ordinary person _ really is in a sense quite an ordinary person doing - really is in a sense quite an ordinary person doing an i ordinary person doing an extraordinary— ordinary person doing an extraordinaryjob. - ordinary person doing an extraordinaryjob. and i ordinary person doing an| extraordinaryjob. and he ordinary person doing an - extraordinaryjob. and he has normal, — extraordinaryjob. and he has normal, ordinary— extraordinaryjob. and he has normal, ordinary emotions. l extraordinaryjob. and he has normal, ordinary emotions. there is a corn i, normal, ordinary emotions. there is a corgi. who — normal, ordinary emotions. there is a corgi. who has _ normal, ordinary emotions. there is a corgi, who hasjust_ normal, ordinary emotions. there is a corgi, who hasjust licked - normal, ordinary emotions. there is a corgi, who hasjust licked king - a corgi, who hasjust licked king charles' hand, if i'm not much mistaken. charles' hand, if i'm not much mistaken-— mistaken. then that is his initiation. _ mistaken. then that is his initiation. he _ mistaken. then that is his initiation. he is _ mistaken. then that is his initiation. he is well- mistaken. then that is his initiation. he is well and l mistaken. then that is his - initiation. he is well and truly... ! it initiation. he is well and truly... ! it is— initiation. he is well and truly... ! it is the — initiation. he is well and truly... ! it is the hillsborough- initiation. he is well and truly... ! it is the hillsborough dog - ! it is the hillsborough dog licking _ ! it is the hillsborough dog licking he _ ! it is the hillsborough dog licking. he is— ! it is the hillsborough dog licking. he is now- ! it is the hillsborough dog licking. he is now very- ! it is the hillsborough dog l licking. he is now very firmly ! it is the hillsborough dog - licking. he is now very firmly in his stride _ licking. he is now very firmly in his stride-— licking. he is now very firmly in his stride. . his stride. and as you say, the king looks very relaxed, _ his stride. and as you say, the king looks very relaxed, very _ his stride. and as you say, the king | looks very relaxed, very comfortable talking to people. maybe this kind of exchange, gloria, is a bit of a relief because later in the day the tone changes. it is more sombre as we have the service reflecting on the contribution of her majesty the queen. fin the contribution of her ma'esty the queen. ., the contribution of her ma'esty the queen. . . ,., the contribution of her ma'esty the queen. . . , �*, , queen. on a walkabout she's very enuuaed queen. on a walkabout she's very engaged and _ queen. on a walkabout she's very engaged and i _ queen. on a walkabout she's very engaged and i have _ queen. on a walkabout she's very engaged and i have just _ queen. on a walkabout she's very engaged and i have just been - queen. on a walkabout she's very i engaged and i have just been seeing king charles speak very intently to some people. king charles speak very intently to some maple-— king charles speak very intently to some people. now they are making their way towards _ some people. now they are making their way towards the _ some people. now they are making their way towards the castle - some people. now they are making their way towards the castle but. their way towards the castle but will perhaps look at some of these floral tributes which have been laid on the steps. floral tributes which have been laid on the steps-— floral tributes which have been laid on the steps._ yes, - floral tributes which have been laid on the steps._ yes, they| on the steps. beautiful. yes, they are. that on the steps. beautiful. yes, they are- that is _ on the steps. beautiful. yes, they are. that is residents _ on the steps. beautiful. yes, they are. that is residents of _ are. that is residents of hillsborough and beyond taking the time to come and lay the tribute. this is a picture from inside the castle, and again we are back outside. we saw very impressive railings by the richhill gates. that is a sea of floral tributes.- is a sea of floral tributes. that's amazin: is a sea of floral tributes. that's amazing actually _ is a sea of floral tributes. that's amazing actually for _ is a sea of floral tributes. that's amazing actually for a _ is a sea of floral tributes. that's amazing actually for a small - amazing actually for a small village. amazing actually for a small villaae. ., . amazing actually for a small villaae. . , . , ~ village. that is quite remarkable. a ve bi village. that is quite remarkable. a very big occasion — village. that is quite remarkable. a very big occasion for— village. that is quite remarkable. a very big occasion for the _ village. that is quite remarkable. a very big occasion for the head - village. that is quite remarkable. a very big occasion for the head of i very big occasion for the head of hillsborough castle, laura macari, who has had an awful lot of work to do in making sure everything goes to plan. well, she and many others. there are the infamous richhill gates. and the sea of flowers continues. laura, who runs hillsborough castle, she will be officially greeting the king and queen consort when they approach the state entrance in just a few moments we think. so the walkabout seems to have come to an end, and the king and queen consort are waving to members of the public. if you call of god save the king going up, and they approach the gates. and very soon the flag will change. there we go. the union flag is down on the royal standard is being flown over hillsborough castle for the first time for king charles iii. and the lord lieutenant there escorting the king and queen consort up the driveway. the gardens looking very impressive. up to the state entrance. they will go inside and then they have a series of meetings. who are they meeting today? the secretary of _ who are they meeting today? the secretary of state, the party leaders, the invited guests, and then alex maskey, the speaker of the assembly, will deliver a message of condolence on behalf of the people of northern ireland and the king will reply. we will see both the message from the speaker and the reply. the royal gun salute is going to happen very soon. that is laura mccorry there, the head of hillsborough castle. welcoming the king and the queen consort. that is the state entrance, and they step inside and you can hear the gun salute, firing from the terrace at hillsborough castle. they will fire 21 rounds at the rate of six rpm. and this is a change from normal procedures. the gun salute is normally fired when the moniker sets footin normally fired when the moniker sets foot in northern ireland. this gun salute is taking place instead at hillsborough castle on the arrival of the king. and hillsborough castle is one of only eight primary saluting stations across the united kingdom. tears six ulster battery based in northern ireland and split between bases in newton artjust outside belfast and coleraine up in the north west. and there we see a shot of the state entrance of hillsborough castle with the royal standard fluttering in the breeze. and that terrace, peter, is beautiful.— and that terrace, peter, is beautiful. , , ., , ., beautiful. yes. it is more beautiful now even then _ beautiful. yes. it is more beautiful now even then i _ beautiful. yes. it is more beautiful now even then i remember - beautiful. yes. it is more beautiful now even then i remember it. - beautiful. yes. it is more beautiful. now even then i remember it. there's been _ now even then i remember it. there's been quite _ now even then i remember it. there's been quite a — now even then i remember it. there's been quite a lot— now even then i remember it. there's been quite a lot of— now even then i remember it. there's been quite a lot of planting _ now even then i remember it. there's been quite a lot of planting going - been quite a lot of planting going on. been quite a lot of planting going on its_ been quite a lot of planting going on. . ., ., been quite a lot of planting going on, �* ., ., ., " been quite a lot of planting going on. . ., ., ., ~ ., ., been quite a lot of planting going on. r ., ., ., .. ., ., and on. a lot of work going on. and there is a _ on. a lot of work going on. and there is a lovely _ on. a lot of work going on. and there is a lovely high _ on. a lot of work going on. and there is a lovely high shot - on. a lot of work going on. and there is a lovely high shot of i there is a lovely high shot of hillsborough castle. i think you get some sense of the scale of the building. gloria, whilst you said it is not a castle, it is a very large house. , ., ., , , , , house. very large house, yes, but comfortable- _ house. very large house, yes, but comfortable. some _ house. very large house, yes, but comfortable. some are _ house. very large house, yes, but comfortable. some are quite - house. very large house, yes, but. comfortable. some are quite austere and you don't feel relaxed in them, but this home, it is a home. large albeit, but beautifully kept and beautiful furniture. albeit, but beautifully kept and beautifulfurniture. the kitchen staff there are on it all the time. the hospitality is amazing. the king is due to spend _ the hospitality is amazing. the king is due to spend some _ the hospitality is amazing. the king is due to spend some time - the hospitality is amazing. the king is due to spend some time shortly l the hospitality is amazing. the king| is due to spend some time shortly in a private session with the new secretary of state for northern ireland, chris heaton—harris. he was appointed to thatjob by the new prime minister last tuesday, so seven days in the job, prime minister last tuesday, so seven days in thejob, and he is a very busy man. the sound of hillsborough parish church's bells has been heard across hillsborough since the queen's death. over these past few days however, they have sounded very different from their usual peal in a way not heard for seven decades. simon walker explains more now and reflect on life with the occasional royal neighbour. i have lived in hillsborough all my life, in fact i'm at least the tenth generation to live in hillsborough. everybody has a memory of some royal visit. my earliest memory is when i was seven years old. the queen visited hillsborough for her silver jubilee, and my primary school class were taken to the castle and we all met the queen. that is a0 years ago but i have never forgotten that. met the queen. that is a0 years ago but i have neverforgotten that. i know the buzz people get from seeing royalty. there is the anticipation, will they see them or not, will they get to speak to them? my own children have memories of coming home from primary school one day, and they saw the queen's car and she waved at them and that is something they will never forget. our records go back as far as 1837 when there is a record of us ringing for the passage of william iv, and the bells were rung continuously for four days. the last time we rang the bells for the passing of a monarch was the passing of george vi in 1952. normally they don't have the clappers muffled, they usually sound joyous. forthe clappers muffled, they usually sound joyous. for the passing of a monarch, we have leather caps tied round each side or each face of the clapper which strikes the inside of the bell and it is in effect people only here once in a every two generations. it sounds mournful but respectful. those of us who have to climb up in amongst the bells to tie them off then will feel sad. it's a lady who has been not only our sovereign but the backdrop to people's lives for two and a half generations. given the service she has given to the country and the selflessness she has shown, i think it would be difficult not to be upset and to recognise this is the end of an era. lovely. let's stay in royal hillsborough where mark simpson has beenjoined by a hillsborough where mark simpson has been joined by a very special guest. yes, we will talk to the former world champion boxer carl frampton in a moment. he is able to say what a lot of people now in royal hillsborough are able to say, he has met the new king. he met him when he was prince of wales of course, carl frampton you are very welcome. we watched the new king and camilla walked past, they were right in front of us a few minutes ago. what are your reflections today? it’s a are your reflections today? it's a momentous _ are your reflections today? it's a momentous occasion, _ are your reflections today? it's a momentous occasion, an - are your reflections today? it's a momentous occasion, an honour and privilege _ momentous occasion, an honour and privilege to _ momentous occasion, an honour and privilege to be invited here. it's a huge _ privilege to be invited here. it's a huge moment in history really, british— huge moment in history really, british history as opposed world history— british history as opposed world history as — british history as opposed world history as well so an honour to be here _ the people behind you will be able to say they have met them, and what are your reflection on king charles? i met him a few years ago with my wife, _ i met him a few years ago with my wife, very— i met him a few years ago with my wife, very personable, funny and i had a _ wife, very personable, funny and i had a chat— wife, very personable, funny and i had a chat of maybe three minutes or so with— had a chat of maybe three minutes or so with him _ had a chat of maybe three minutes or so with him but it felt like a long time _ so with him but it felt like a long time but — so with him but it felt like a long time but it— so with him but it felt like a long time but it was really enjoyable and i've time but it was really enjoyable and i've got— time but it was really enjoyable and i've got some lovely photographs i will treasure for ever. you mention our will treasure for ever. you mention your wife. — will treasure for ever. you mention your wife, christine. _ will treasure for ever. you mention your wife, christine. she _ will treasure for ever. you mention your wife, christine. she is - will treasure for ever. you mention your wife, christine. she is from i your wife, christine. she is from the other side of the community in northern ireland, as such. you are a protestant and she is a catholic and you got together. you are seen as kind of the symbol of the new northern ireland that the queen tried to promote, with reconciliation.- tried to promote, with reconciliation. , ,, reconciliation. yes, the queen, her appearance — reconciliation. yes, the queen, her appearance in _ reconciliation. yes, the queen, her appearance in dublin _ reconciliation. yes, the queen, her appearance in dublin where - reconciliation. yes, the queen, her appearance in dublin where she - reconciliation. yes, the queen, her i appearance in dublin where she spoke irish appearance in dublin where she spoke irish as _ appearance in dublin where she spoke irish as well— appearance in dublin where she spoke irish as well at the banquet in 2011, — irish as well at the banquet in 2011, a — irish as well at the banquet in 2011, a massive occasion in terms of reconciliation — 2011, a massive occasion in terms of reconciliation and peace in northern ireland _ reconciliation and peace in northern ireland and — reconciliation and peace in northern ireland and also the moment when she shook— ireland and also the moment when she shook hands _ ireland and also the moment when she shook hands with martin mcguinness, that was— shook hands with martin mcguinness, that was a _ shook hands with martin mcguinness, that was a symbolic moment for this country _ that was a symbolic moment for this count . ., , that was a symbolic moment for this count . . , i. ., ., country. finally, you are wearing the mbe. what _ country. finally, you are wearing the mbe. what does _ country. finally, you are wearing the mbe. what does it _ country. finally, you are wearing the mbe. what does it mean - country. finally, you are wearing the mbe. what does it mean to l country. finally, you are wearing - the mbe. what does it mean to you? it means so much. to me and my family— it means so much. to me and my family are — it means so much. to me and my family are very proud moment when i collected _ family are very proud moment when i collected it _ family are very proud moment when i collected it in 2016. the first time i've actually worn it.— i've actually worn it. very, very roud. i've actually worn it. very, very proud- it _ i've actually worn it. very, very proud- it has — i've actually worn it. very, very proud. it has had _ i've actually worn it. very, very proud. it has had a _ i've actually worn it. very, very proud. it has had a good - i've actually worn it. very, very proud. it has had a good debut| i've actually worn it. very, very l proud. it has had a good debut at royal hillsborough. carl frampton thank you very much. a lot of chat and chat outside hillsborough castle and chat outside hillsborough castle and we hope to hearfrom inside shortly, and the first words on northern irish soilfrom shortly, and the first words on northern irish soil from the shortly, and the first words on northern irish soilfrom the new king. northern irish soil from the new kinu. ~ ., , king. well, right now the king is havin: a king. well, right now the king is having a private _ king. well, right now the king is having a private audience - king. well, right now the king is having a private audience with l king. well, right now the king is i having a private audience with the secretary of state, and following that, he will meet the leaders of the five main political parties in northern ireland and the speaker of the assembly. joining me now is peter sheridan, chief executive of co—operation ireland, an organisation that works across the island to build peace and hisjoint patron was the queen, a role she shared with the president of ireland. also with us as the eye artist colin davidson, best known for his large—scale portraits and he has painted pictures of victims of the kop and also bill clinton, liam neeson but his most important work was of his majesty the court —— her majesty the queen in may 2016. and it's lovely to have you involved today. the political scene in northern ireland is, as wejust the political scene in northern ireland is, as we just heard the political scene in northern ireland is, as wejust heard on our previous conversation, in limbo at the moment with the northern ireland assembly currently suspended. the monarchy has to remain strictly neutral with respect to political matters but it's hard to imagine that the king would not want to talk to the secretary of state about the current political landscape in northern ireland. n current political landscape in northern ireland.— current political landscape in northern ireland. i am sure they will, in private, _ northern ireland. i am sure they will, in private, but _ northern ireland. i am sure they will, in private, but from - northern ireland. i am sure they will, in private, but from the - northern ireland. i am sure they| will, in private, but from the late queen and prince charles, they have transcended politics, particularly party politics. politics and its wider sense, that cannot be avoided, but when you look back at the queen's beach in dublin castle where she referenced things like bowing to the past —— the queen's speech. and asking people to think beyond the here and now where she said that all of us had been, as a consequence of our troubled past, she reached out and extended her condolences and sympathy to everybody and she did not qualified. but that party politics, the queen transcended it, and the king will as well. we will come onto the direct part of the reconciliation process for the king. and you were witnessed of that but i want to talk about your personal connection to the queen. you met on a number of occasions. what distinguishes you is that she agreed to be painted by you in 2016, so for people who don't know how that happened, how did it come about and what was the experience like? we have to go back to 2012, the meeting at the _ have to go back to 2012, the meeting at the cooperation island event at the lyric— at the cooperation island event at the lyric theatre, and we witnessed a momentous handshake during that particular— a momentous handshake during that particular time which was meant to be an— particular time which was meant to be an arts — particular time which was meant to be an arts event and it kind of was anarts— be an arts event and it kind of was an arts event and i showed her the paintings— an arts event and i showed her the paintings of— an arts event and i showed her the paintings of mine which were hanging there and _ paintings of mine which were hanging there and from then on it was deemed as being _ there and from then on it was deemed as being appropriate, i think, that there _ as being appropriate, i think, that there should be a northern irish or irish painting of the queen. bearing in mind _ irish painting of the queen. bearing in mind the — irish painting of the queen. bearing in mind the huge strides, the hand of friendship which she stretched to us att~ _ of friendship which she stretched to us ad i_ of friendship which she stretched to us all. i think that time was ripe for that — us all. i think that time was ripe for that. 2016, may 2016, us all. i think that time was ripe forthat. 2016, may 2016, i us all. i think that time was ripe for that. 2016, may 2016, iwas invited — for that. 2016, may 2016, iwas invited to— for that. 2016, may 2016, iwas invited to the palace to spend two hours _ invited to the palace to spend two hours with — invited to the palace to spend two hours with the queen and of the sitting _ hours with the queen and of the sitting was in the yellow drawing room: _ sitting was in the yellow drawing room. and — sitting was in the yellow drawing room, and i can remember being out of my— room, and i can remember being out of my depth— room, and i can remember being out of my depth completely. that is just how i_ of my depth completely. that is just how i felt _ of my depth completely. that is just how i felt i— of my depth completely. that is just how i felt. i was standing and our appointment was at 11am that day in may and _ appointment was at11am that day in may and i_ appointment was at 11am that day in may and i remember standing by the door waiting for the queen to walk in and _ door waiting for the queen to walk in and the — door waiting for the queen to walk in and the changing of the guard 'ust in and the changing of the guard just struck up outside. of course, i remember, — just struck up outside. of course, i remember, in my younger days, standing— remember, in my younger days, standing outside the gates watching the changing of the guard, so to hear— the changing of the guard, so to hear the — the changing of the guard, so to hear the band, to see them, the changing of the guard, so to hearthe band, to see them, and the changing of the guard, so to hear the band, to see them, and at that stage — hear the band, to see them, and at that stage the queen for her tojust walk in— that stage the queen for her tojust walk in is— that stage the queen for her tojust walk in is something i will forever hold dear — walk in is something i will forever hold dear. and we were off to a good start because she quipped with me how appropriate it was that it was the irish— how appropriate it was that it was the irish guards playing that day. and i_ the irish guards playing that day. and i also— the irish guards playing that day. and i also had the nerve to say to her, _ and i also had the nerve to say to her. that— and i also had the nerve to say to her. that is— and i also had the nerve to say to her, that is probably the 1,000,000th time that someone has wish you _ 1,000,000th time that someone has wish you a _ 1,000,000th time that someone has wish you a happy birthday, but may i do it as _ wish you a happy birthday, but may i do it as well— wish you a happy birthday, but may i do it as well and she stopped in her tracks— do it as well and she stopped in her tracks and — do it as well and she stopped in her tracks and turned round and went, yes i_ tracks and turned round and went, yes i think— tracks and turned round and went, yes i think it— tracks and turned round and went, yes i think it is about the 1,000,000th time. so there was a tightness — 1,000,000th time. so there was a lightness. herwarmth, and 1,000,000th time. so there was a lightness. her warmth, and also the fact that _ lightness. her warmth, and also the fact that she made me completely feel fact that she made me completely feet at— fact that she made me completely feel at my ease, which is a story we have _ feel at my ease, which is a story we have heard — feel at my ease, which is a story we have heard so many times. we feel at my ease, which is a story we have heard so many times.- have heard so many times. we are 'ust have heard so many times. we are just looking _ have heard so many times. we are just looking at _ have heard so many times. we are just looking at a — have heard so many times. we are just looking at a picture _ have heard so many times. we are just looking at a picture in - have heard so many times. we are just looking at a picture in fact - have heard so many times. we are just looking at a picture in fact of. just looking at a picture in fact of the painting which you unveiled, or she unveiled, in a gathering in london about six months later, i think it was. pictures here recorded at the time of her unveiling it. and of course, you had no idea what she would make of it because she had not seen before. this would make of it because she had not seen before-— seen before. this was the first time she had seen- _ seen before. this was the first time she had seen. and _ seen before. this was the first time she had seen. and in _ seen before. this was the first time she had seen. and in fact _ seen before. this was the first time she had seen. and in fact peter - seen before. this was the first time j she had seen. and in fact peter was 'ust she had seen. and in fact peter was just telling — she had seen. and in fact peter was just telling the story of him coming and grabbing me to go and speak to her, because i sometimes don't know, mark. _ her, because i sometimes don't know, mark, why— her, because i sometimes don't know, mark, why i _ her, because i sometimes don't know, mark, why i choose to be in the same room _ mark, why i choose to be in the same room with— mark, why i choose to be in the same room with somebody when the portrait is unveiled _ room with somebody when the portrait is unveiled for the first time because _ is unveiled for the first time because they are seeing my interpretation of them for foot square~ — interpretation of them for foot square. so peter came and grabbed me, square. so peter came and grabbed me. and _ square. so peter came and grabbed me, and again, i don't know where the nerve — me, and again, i don't know where the nerve came from but the first thing _ the nerve came from but the first thing i_ the nerve came from but the first thing i said — the nerve came from but the first thing i said to her was, are you still— thing i said to her was, are you still talking to me? and of course, she turned — still talking to me? and of course, she turned to me with that familiar smile _ she turned to me with that familiar smile that — she turned to me with that familiar smile that l — she turned to me with that familiar smile that i had seen during the two hours _ smile that i had seen during the two hours we _ smile that i had seen during the two hours we spent together and said, of course _ hours we spent together and said, of course i_ hours we spent together and said, of course i am — hours we spent together and said, of course i am still talking to you and commented on how splendid the painting — commented on how splendid the painting was. so, that is something i painting was. so, that is something i hold _ painting was. so, that is something i hold dear — painting was. so, that is something i hold dear. he painting was. so, that is something i hold dear-— i hold dear. he is probably slowly understating _ i hold dear. he is probably slowly understating it, _ i hold dear. he is probably slowly understating it, because - i hold dear. he is probably slowly understating it, because what - understating it, because what happened when i went to grab him, because this was at a 1916 rising eventin because this was at a 1916 rising event in crosby hall in london and when i grabbed him and brought him up, the queen turned around and looked over her shoulder and said, oh, colin, lovely to see you. larral’eiiii. oh, colin, lovely to see you. well, i think oh, colin, lovely to see you. well, i think that — oh, colin, lovely to see you. well, i think that is — oh, colin, lovely to see you. well, i think that is a _ oh, colin, lovely to see you. well, i think that is a interesting - oh, colin, lovely to see you. well, i think that is a interesting and - i think that is a interesting and telling insight into how the queen approached things and approached things that matter to her. we will come back and talk about that in more detail in a moment or two, but thank you for now. later this afternoon attention will turn to belfast cathedral for the service of reflection marking the life of queen elizabeth ii which is due to begin at three o'clock. situated to the north of the city centre, the cathedral is known locally as st anne's cathedral and joining us from there is my colleague, tara mills. well, this is donegall street in the heart of what used to be the commercial part are belfast, and indeed two of the cities oldest buildings, the old exchange and the old pearl house on either end of the street and the sunnis still shining here this afternoon. —— the sun is still shining. this is the location for the service of thanksgiving and reflection for her majesty queen elizabeth ii. so who are we expecting to attend alongside the royal couple? the prime minister liz truss is on herfirst royal couple? the prime minister liz truss is on her first visit to northern ireland since becoming prime minister and is expected to to attend. lots of people have started to gather at writers square. the first people to arrive well from the girl guides who travelled from don gavin and had an early start and are at the front of the barrier is hoping that when the king and queen consort do their short walkabout after the service here in writers square that they will get a chance to shake their hands and catch a few words with them, just in the last few minutes students from british belfast royal academy have arrived along with other schoolchildren and some members of the orange order here as well and i took a stroll through the cathedral a little older —— earlier. the flowers are spectacular and they have finished rehearsing some of the music and there was definitely a sense of nervous apprehension but a promise of a very warm welcome to the royal couple. of a very warm welcome to the royal cou-le. ., ,., ., ., of a very warm welcome to the royal cou-le. ., ., ., ,, ., , couple. now, someone who knows belfast cathedral _ couple. now, someone who knows belfast cathedral better _ couple. now, someone who knows belfast cathedral better than - couple. now, someone who knows belfast cathedral better than most and played a key role in the shape of this afternoon's services the dean of belfast, the very reverend stephen ford. appointed to the position in 2018, it was brought up in county down in northern ireland and ordained as a priest in 1987. the dean reflects now on the service this afternoon. i the dean reflects now on the service this afternoon.— this afternoon. i think we could say that this is — this afternoon. i think we could say that this is a _ this afternoon. i think we could say that this is a unique _ this afternoon. i think we could say that this is a unique service. - this afternoon. i think we could say that this is a unique service. it - that this is a unique service. it obviously brings traditions and understandings we would take from other services, understandings we would take from otherservices, but understandings we would take from other services, but as a service of thanksgiving for a life lived to the full, in that sense, it is similar to other services. there are elements of the service as we have devised it for belfast and which are unique to this island and this nation. for example, the hymns we have chosen are hymns that are very familiar to our congregations across the island and have a particular irish feel to them. the nature of those who are participating in the service is overseen drawn from across the community and reflects the particular emphasis and nature of society here in northern ireland and across the island as well. and yet, it is also an intensely personal service, because within the service the king will be reflecting upon his mother, reflecting upon her life as we give thanks for that life, but he brings to the service also his own sense of grief. and so, what we are doing is something very special and very personal to the king and to those who are closest to him, as members of the royal family. so we give thanks to god for the life of queen elizabeth but we do something that we do for every family. as a community of faith, we surround them with our care and we offer them in our prayers to almighty god, as well as gathering to offer our thanksgiving that he is stepping into this new role as king. i think the fact that it is a service of thanksgiving for the reign of the queen and the queen has reigned for decades, and for many people, perhaps two generations of people, perhaps two generations of people, we have known no other monarch. she has given leadership to the country at times of great celebration herself, but also at times of huge national tragedy. and those who have met her have always found her a person who has had the right word to say, who knows the right word to say, who knows the right thing to do. she has guided prime ministers and presidents. she has stood alongside ordinary people. she has been the longest serving monarch that the united kingdom has known and it will be a very long time before anybody would be in a position to exceed that. the very reverend stephen ford, dean of belfast. just to update you on proceedings at hillsborough, the king is about to go into a private meeting with the leaders of the five main political parties and the speaker of the stormont assembly. just after quarter past one, he will receive a message of condolence on behalf of the people of northern ireland from the speaker, alex maskey, a member of sinn fein. the largest political party in northern ireland, sinn fein previously had a policy of not attending events with members of the uk's royalfamily, but that changed in a landmark meeting in 2012 which both of my guests were in fact heavily involved in. peter, again, forthe guests were in fact heavily involved in. peter, again, for the benefit of people who do not understand how that came about, that was the meeting between her majesty the queen and the sinn fein leader in northern ireland, martin mcguinness, who was, of course, a former ira commander stop and you were involved making that happen. i making that happen. i think all of that came from _ making that happen. i think all of that came from the _ making that happen. i think all of that came from the recognition . making that happen. i think all of. that came from the recognition from sinn fein that they had been absent in the state visit to dublin and they recognised, like everybody else, that irish people's affection for the queen grew as she moved from dublin to cork and they recognise that at some stage they will have to in it. so, as the queen and president by thejoint in it. so, as the queen and president by the joint patrons, we put together this event along with the governments that were built around the portraits, and then we invited the first and deputy first minister to attend and at that stage martin mcguinness as deputy first minister. we weren't quite sure until the last minute whether it would happen. ithink until the last minute whether it would happen. i think there were many in sinn fein who didn't want it to happen but there were probably many who did as well. we are just seeing pictures of the handshake now, and it was momentous. i handshake now, and it was momentous. i remember— handshake now, and it was momentous. i remember saying to myself that i wanted to capture it in slow motion because it was a significant moment in history. i said to that despite the extraordinary nature of it, there was also an ordinariness to it in that here was two people who smiled, shook hands and said hello. and you witnessed it as well? yes. and you witnessed it as well? yes, we both did. _ and you witnessed it as well? yes, we both did. in _ and you witnessed it as well? yes, we both did, in your— and you witnessed it as well? yes, we both did, in your role _ and you witnessed it as well? yes, we both did, in your role as - we both did, in your role as chairman _ we both did, in your role as chairman i_ we both did, in your role as chairman. i think for me what has always— chairman. i think for me what has always stayed with me is the warmth that i_ always stayed with me is the warmth that i feel— always stayed with me is the warmth that i feel that the delegation kind of displayed. 0k, that i feel that the delegation kind of displayed. ok, i was showing them paintings— of displayed. ok, i was showing them paintings of— of displayed. ok, i was showing them paintings of mind, but there was an engagement between them. there was a physical~~~ _ engagement between them. there was a physical~~~ i_ engagement between them. there was a physical... i mean, the proximity was close. — physical... i mean, the proximity was close, and there was even the odd quip~ — was close, and there was even the odd quip~ i— was close, and there was even the odd quip. i think that made me feel, having _ odd quip. i think that made me feel, having grown up in the place since 1968i _ having grown up in the place since 1968. that — having grown up in the place since 1968, that was a very special time, and i_ 1968, that was a very special time, and i think— 1968, that was a very special time, and i think we felt many things startinq — and i think we felt many things starting to thaw. to have been there at that _ starting to thaw. to have been there at that arts — starting to thaw. to have been there at that arts event and to have seen it first-hand — at that arts event and to have seen it first—hand again is something i will hold — it first—hand again is something i will hold they went on to meet several— will hold they went on to meet several times and developed a rapport, — several times and developed a rapport, and we can talk about that later _ rapport, and we can talk about that later l _ rapport, and we can talk about that later. .. . rapport, and we can talk about that later. ,, . . , . , later. i think that king charles as he now is has — later. i think that king charles as he now is has developed - later. i think that king charles as he now is has developed that - he now is has developed that relationship with leading figures within sinn fein as well, which i know, peter, you can talk to us about. perhaps one of the most defining moments the queen played in the peace process came in may 2011. it remains a unique moment in history. the president's guest of honour at a state dinner in dublin was queen elizabeth ii, undertaking the first state visit by a british monarch to the republic of ireland. it had been 100 years since a reigning british monarch had set footin reigning british monarch had set foot in the country, though back when george fifth visited ireland was still under british rule. the 2011 visit was enormously symbolic, and as one journalist put it, the queen was doing a lot more than simply turning up and bowing at the right moment. belfast born mary mcaleese was installed as the irish president in 1997, the country's first to come from northern ireland. here she reflects on that historic visit by the queen. the quiz —— the visit by the queen. the quiz —— the visit by the queen. the quiz —— the visit by the queen was an extraordinary moment in irish history. extraordinary moment in irish histo . . ,. . extraordinary moment in irish histo . , , history. this picture is my favourite _ history. this picture is my favourite from _ history. this picture is my favourite from the - history. this picture is my favourite from the events| history. this picture is my l favourite from the events of history. this picture is my - favourite from the events of 2011. this is the garden of remembrance. she is looking at a monument designed to respect, admire and indeed encourage the legacy of those who held in their heart the dream of irish nationhood. we had just laid the wreath, and when she stepped back, she suddenlyjust nodded her head in respect. it was that gesture i think that caused really gasps all over ireland, the realisation this is notjust any over ireland, the realisation this is not just any visit. over ireland, the realisation this is notjust any visit. there is something profound going on here. croke park, the beating heart of the gaa and the scene in 1920 of a massacre when ground forces opened fire at a challenge match and 1a people lost their lives. i fire at a challenge match and 14 people lost their lives.- people lost their lives. i would never have _ people lost their lives. i would never have asked _ people lost their lives. i would never have asked the - people lost their lives. i would never have asked the gaa - people lost their lives. i would never have asked the gaa to l people lost their lives. i would - never have asked the gaa to invite her if i had not known first that she would go knowing all of that history. it was her choice to go out onto the hallowed sward, no one was pushing that. it was the president of the gaa who said, you know, ma'am, you are standing in the place where the troops opened fire. i still remember her looking at the two others, looking back on the sadness that was in her face. two others, looking back on the sadness that was in herface. and shejust said so sadness that was in herface. and she just said so solemnly, "i know. i know." and you knew that she did know and she felt it. i think when she came here, the full extent of what she understood about the role britain and ireland and the baleful role historically, there is no other way of saying it, which was not well understood by the english people. the english people don't know irish history very well. i think she felt she had an obligation to address that. earlier that day, the gift i had given her was a little book of irish phrases. when she sat down and i said, you got fluent very quickly! i just thought that was so brave of her. from the get go, we knew this was a woman on a mission to hit all the subjects that needed to be dealt with if we were to effect a true reconciliation. i think many of us recognised that she operated in the different space from every day politics. and so are our hope would be that legacy that she invested so heavily in 2011 will inspire her son as king. heavily in 2011 will inspire her son as kint. , heavily in 2011 will inspire her son askint. , . heavily in 2011 will inspire her son askint. , , ., as king. mary mcaleese on the queen's landmark _ as king. mary mcaleese on the queen's landmark visit - as king. mary mcaleese on the queen's landmark visit to - as king. mary mcaleese on the l queen's landmark visit to ireland as king. mary mcaleese on the - queen's landmark visit to ireland 11 years ago. peter sheridan, just put that into some kind of context for us. ! that into some kind of context for us. ~' that into some kind of context for us. " ., ., " that into some kind of context for us. i think when we look back, it was the building _ us. i think when we look back, it was the building of— us. i think when we look back, it was the building of the - us. i think when we look back, it was the building of the modern i was the building of the modern british irish relationship we see today. when the queen landed in dublin and the wearing of a green dress, shamrocks on it, the speaking of irish at her speech, then travelling down to cork and meeting people, all of that were momentous occasions in terms of building british irish relationship. on peace and reconciliation, most people in ireland at that time could see the queen had peace and reconciliation in her hard. i always said it would do us all a lot of good to read her speech. do us all a lot of good to read her s-eech. ~ . . do us all a lot of good to read her s-eech. . ., i. speech. was it your firm view it wasn't just _ speech. was it your firm view it wasn't just about _ speech. was it your firm view it wasn'tjust about the _ speech. was it your firm view it - wasn'tjust about the circumstances wasn't just about the circumstances the queen found herself in, she was the queen found herself in, she was the author of that transformative relationship? i the author of that transformative relationship?— the author of that transformative relationship? i suspect the queen didn't do anything _ relationship? i suspect the queen didn't do anything she _ relationship? i suspect the queen didn't do anything she didn't - relationship? i suspect the queen didn't do anything she didn't wantj didn't do anything she didn't want to do, and when you look back to those times and now move forward to today to see the enormous progress made, yes, we have still got difficulties but in terms of anglo irish relations, there is no better than the queen and sinn fein acknowledged that in recent days. and during that visit she paid tribute, she laid a wreath and bowed her head to those who fought on behalf of ireland against british forces. . . . behalf of ireland against british forces. . , , ., forces. that sense of respect, la in: a forces. that sense of respect, laying a wreath _ forces. that sense of respect, laying a wreath at _ forces. that sense of respect, laying a wreath at the - forces. that sense of respect, laying a wreath at the garden| forces. that sense of respect, l laying a wreath at the garden of remembrance and ireland bridge, all of those were momentous taken individually, but taken together they have built the modern—day relationship between britain and ireland. �* , . . ireland. briefly, what are your recollections _ ireland. briefly, what are your recollections of _ ireland. briefly, what are your recollections of that _ ireland. briefly, what are your recollections of that visit - ireland. briefly, what are your recollections of that visit in i ireland. briefly, what are your. recollections of that visit in 2011? i think what peter said there is so important — i think what peter said there is so important is that the queen, he suspects — important is that the queen, he suspects the queen wouldn't have done _ suspects the queen wouldn't have done anything she didn't want to do. what we _ done anything she didn't want to do. what we have got to remember is that 0k, what we have got to remember is that 0k. as _ what we have got to remember is that 0k. as head _ what we have got to remember is that 0k, as head of state, the reaching out the _ 0k, as head of state, the reaching out the hand of friendship was one thing. _ out the hand of friendship was one thing. but — out the hand of friendship was one thing, but as somebody who suffered personal— thing, but as somebody who suffered personal loss through the troubles, that was— personal loss through the troubles, that was something else completely. as head _ that was something else completely. as head of— that was something else completely. as head of state, huge strides. as a human— as head of state, huge strides. as a human being, massive strides as well _ human being, massive strides as well. . .. human being, massive strides as well. . «i , ., human being, massive strides as well. . ~' . human being, massive strides as well. . .. , ., . ., well. thank you. while northern ireland's official _ well. thank you. while northern ireland's official book— well. thank you. while northern ireland's official book of - ireland's official book of condolence is online, for the books have been opened at locations across northern ireland allowing the public to pay their respects to the queen in person. belfast city hall has been one of the busiest venues. crowds are gathering again today hoping to catch a glimpse of the king and queen consort as they pass en route to belfast cathedral, and holly hamilton is there. yes, there is a real sense of excitement and anticipation here at belfast city hall. the building of course that has witnessed some key moments in history as it will once again today when king charles ii! makes his way through the streets. he will be following in the footsteps of his great—grandfather, yes, more than 100 years ago, june 1921 to be precise, king george v and queen mary made their way through the same streets. very similar to today, lined with spectators with flags and bunting, all hoping to get a glimpse of the king and queen consort. their visit back then was an historic one, it camejust seven weeks back then was an historic one, it came just seven weeks after the creation of northern ireland, and they were here for the state opening of the northern ireland parliament, which was within these walls behind me at belfast city hall. stormont, the home of the assembly today, hadn't even been built yet. the birth of northern ireland, well, it wasn't welcomed by everyone of course but it marked the beginning of a new era for this part of the world. just as the of king world. just as the arrival of king charles ii! here in northern ireland marks the beginning of a new chapter for the royal family. we know the king won't be stopping off here today, that hasn't stopped spectators in their all of the and queen they consort, and that is what they have told me, just a just be a small art of histo . want to be a small part of history. with now is the well—known with me now is the well—known northern ireland expert broadcaster and journalist eamon holmes. a very interesting day as far as northern ireland is concerned.— interesting day as far as northern ireland is concerned. absolutely. i was six years _ ireland is concerned. absolutely. i was six years old _ ireland is concerned. absolutely. i was six years old when _ ireland is concerned. absolutely. i was six years old when i _ ireland is concerned. absolutely. i was six years old when i first i ireland is concerned. absolutely. i was six years old when i first saw| was six years old when i first saw the queen. and mary mcaleese, the irish president, i grew up in a nationalist area and listening to heard talks of reconciliation, i think almost this queen should be known as, you know, diana was the people's princess, i think queen elizabeth was the queen of peace. that is what she could be remembered for. in 1956 when i first saw her, i lived in belfast. it would have been a catholic nationalist area. i remember seeing her come down and trim road behind bullet—proof glass, and waving out. you knew it was somebody special. so often the way she is painted as a unionist queen or a loyalist queen or whatever, she's also a celebrity so to a lot of people it is celebrity hood. it is important to people in northern ireland to be recognised like that. but she also stretched herself, we heard peter sheridan talking about that. she extended the hand of friendship to people who were involved in indirectly hurting her family in the past.— family in the past. absolutely. i think there _ family in the past. absolutely. i think there have _ family in the past. absolutely. i think there have been _ family in the past. absolutely. i think there have been great i family in the past. absolutely. i i think there have been great strides and i think charles will continue that. i think he's a very accessible man and camilla, anyone who has met her, it is strange for me being a north belfast catholic thinking when i was a kid this was not my queen, and then because it was made obvious in loyalist areas it was their queen, not our queen, and yet when i went to england in 1986 at mass they prayed for the queen on a sunday, so they prayed for the queen at a catholic mass. i realised she was a queen for all people, all faiths in a way as well. and she did stretch herself. i think when i look and, you know, isurprisingly herself. i think when i look and, you know, i surprisingly rubbed shoulders with royals on a regular basis because a lot of it is celebrity hood. they mix in fundraising circles, they mix in high—profile events and things and you get to know them relatively well. it you get to know them relatively well. . . . you get to know them relatively well. . , , . well. it was interesting hearing tlorious well. it was interesting hearing glorious talking _ well. it was interesting hearing glorious talking about - well. it was interesting hearing glorious talking about the i well. it was interesting hearing i glorious talking about the occasion she received her obe from the queen and against strict protocol she put her hand on top of the queen's and probably had a longer conversation than she should have. you did something quite against protocol as well, i gather? you something quite against protocol as well. i gather?— well, i gather? you are told you irobabl well, i gather? you are told you probably have — well, i gather? you are told you probably have a _ well, i gather? you are told you probably have a minute - well, i gather? you are told you probably have a minute and i well, i gather? you are told you probably have a minute and a i well, i gather? you are told you l probably have a minute and a half with her. she holds your hand and when she is finished with you, she pushes your hand back. when it got to my chat with her, she said, you must have interviewed a lot of people in your time? i said, yes, must have interviewed a lot of people in yourtime? isaid, yes, i have interviewed everyone in your family with one exception. she said, who is that? i sent you, ma'am, but we can fix that today. we are nearly at the end of the line, i have my phone, we can do a quick chat and that would square the circle. she laughed and pushed my hand, so i got 20 seconds with her. it was like, get this madman out of here. but she had a sense of humour. very accessible. quite dry in her wit. and i would find that about all of them. all of them are quite keen to, i'm sure you have met royalty in their time, i'm sure you have met royalty in theirtime, but i'm sure you have met royalty in their time, but they know about you and they want to be interested in you as well. and they want to be interested in you as well-— you as well. and you and she of course shared _ you as well. and you and she of course shared an _ you as well. and you and she of course shared an interest i you as well. and you and she of course shared an interest in i you as well. and you and she of i course shared an interest in horse racing, and she is well known someone who is passionate about that and you are fairly keen on the horses too?— and you are fairly keen on the horses too? ,, . , . , ,, horses too? she was an expert. she was a breeder. _ horses too? she was an expert. she was a breeder, very _ horses too? she was an expert. she was a breeder, very into _ horses too? she was an expert. she was a breeder, very into animal- was a breeder, very into animal welfare as well. there was a big scandal in horse racing about what happens to the horses after their racing life and she was very keen to know where they went, who would have them, what they would be used for afterwards, and she was an expert. you could tell that a woman under such scrutiny and always giving, this was her escape. this was where she could indulge herself. this is where... its like a lot of us, we have a pastime and this was hers. sometimes the public saw how much she enjoyed it and we have a great clip of her at a horse race in the 19905. you will enjoy this. clip of her at a horse race in the 1990s. you will enjoy this. 1990s. you will en'oy this. look, it's on 1990s. you will en'oy this. look, its on the h 1990s. you will en'oy this. look, it's on the wrong i 1990s. you will enjoy this. look, it's on the wrong leg. _ 1990s. you will enjoy this. look, it's on the wrong leg. no - 1990s. you will enjoy this. look, it's on the wrong leg. no wonder 1990s. you will enjoy this. look, i it's on the wrong leg. no wonder it can't go round the corner. look at that, she wasn't following royal protocol there. but as you say, she was an expert and most people are very much amateurs. idem; people are very much amateurs. very much. she knew— people are very much amateurs. very much. she knew her— people are very much amateurs. , much. she knew her horseflesh. look at her track record as a breeder or trainer. and those amazing scenes where she went down the mall and was sitting sidesaddle and the guy fires off the six blanks in the gun on the horses completely spooked. she retains control and is very calm in those situations and an exceptional human being. those situations and an exceptional human being-— those situations and an exceptional human being. those situations and an exceptional human beint. . , ., ., ., human being. exceptional. today is a very difficult — human being. exceptional. today is a very difficult day _ human being. exceptional. today is a very difficult day for _ human being. exceptional. today is a very difficult day for many _ human being. exceptional. today is a very difficult day for many people i very difficult day for many people in northern ireland because there is obviously a welcome for the new king on the queen consort and we saw that very warm welcome they received in royal hillsborough and then there is a very serious side to today's proceedings and we are about to hear the message of condolence read on behalf of the people of northern ireland by the speaker of the assembly and then a response by the king and then a reflection and thanks for the life for the life of the queen and you would imagine for many people in northern ireland it will be very moving.— will be very moving. very, very movint will be very moving. very, very moving and _ will be very moving. very, very moving and l — will be very moving. very, very moving and i think _ will be very moving. very, very moving and i think it _ will be very moving. very, very moving and i think it means i will be very moving. very, very moving and i think it means a i will be very moving. very, very i moving and i think it means a lot. and as i said at the start, she has done so much towards reconciliation. we as a people have moved, and sometimes we think we have not moved at all, but then you look and think strides have been made. in my lifetime there have been definite changes of opinion and outlook in the way that nationalist or catholic people would look towards the royal family, and i think that is a very, very good thing. i family, and i think that is a very, very good thing-— family, and i think that is a very, very good thing. i want to ask you about the king. _ very good thing. i want to ask you about the king. i— very good thing. i want to ask you about the king. i know _ very good thing. i want to ask you about the king. i know you - very good thing. i want to ask you about the king. i know you have i very good thing. i want to ask you i about the king. i know you have met him on a number of occasions and that you have a good relationship with the queen consort. there is a lot of talk about how the monarchy might change, about how king charles may do things his way. you may choose to do things differently. very differently or slightly differently, we don't know at this stage. what is your impression of him and how he will fulfil his new role? ! him and how he will fulfil his new role? .. . him and how he will fulfil his new role? ~' , , , . role? i think he is the best trained a- irentice role? i think he is the best trained apprentice in _ role? i think he is the best trained apprentice in the _ role? i think he is the best trained apprentice in the world. _ role? i think he is the best trained apprentice in the world. this i role? i think he is the best trained apprentice in the world. this man | role? i think he is the best trained i apprentice in the world. this man is ready for this. in many ways, may be slightly unfortunate the queen did not abdicate ten years or so ago and it was a life of service and he will be the same. even if william were to step in at this stage, the nation would be very, very happy but i think charles will see through like his mother to the end and it will be a time of service for him. and the queen consort, which we call her, we don't have to call at the queen consort. she is the queen. out of respect we will wait until the queen is buried, but then i think from next week camilla will be the queen and we will recognise her as the queen and a very human person. she wrote to me. she saw an article i had talked about about how i got my first car with a loan through the credit union, and she wanted to expand credit unions within england particularly and i wrote her a letter and we talked about credit unions and how you get a loan and what they do for communities and whatever and she wants to be involved and is a very accessible and friendly person. trier?r and friendly person. very interesting _ and friendly person. very interesting to _ and friendly person. very interesting to hear- and friendly person. very interesting to hear your i and friendly person. very interesting to hear your thoughts. thanks forjoining us today. now, the king will soon arrive in the throne room in hillsborough castle to receive the message of condolence from the speaker of the assembly on behalf of the people of northern ireland. let's bring in our commentators, declan harvey and mark davenport. well, they have been sitting in silence for about 15 minutes here. you could hear a pin drop. this is the ceremonial heart of hillsborough castle, the throne room, every bit as impressive as the name suggests. it started life as three separate rooms back in the 17905, but in the 18a05, the hill family from where royal hills gets its name, wanted a grand space for receptions and entertaining. it is quite literally as they would have intended, a room fit for a king. as they would have intended, a room fit fora king. unlike as they would have intended, a room fit for a king. unlike other royal residences, hillsborough castle is not owned by the crown but by the uk government who bought it in the 19205 after partition on the island. which is why it is also the official residence of the secretary of state for northern ireland, chris heaton—harris, in thejob for northern ireland, chris heaton—harris, in the job exactly a week. and that goes to the mix that has historically happened at hillsborough castle, of loyalty and politics. since we saw the king on the queen consort entered a building in the last half hour or so. they have caught their breath and met with the secretary of state, and as you join us they are just next door from the throne room, known as the red room, meeting with the leaders of the five political parties in northern ireland. i am joined by the bbc from political editor in northern ireland, mark devenpor. these meetings happen in private away from the cameras and they are more casual than public meetings but what can be achieved from them? i think king charles has made it clear that he wants to continue the legacy of his mother in terms of promoting conciliation. and he will be emphasising and he has met some of these politicians before, but for those he has not met, he will be emphasising that his door is open and that he is there in order to promote continuing dialogue. some of the empty chairs you see in this room here are chairs that will be occupied by the leaders of the storm and parties who are still in conversation with him —— stormont house parties. and we will hear from alex maskey, the speaker of the northern ireland assembly, and i think that this function we are about to witness will illustrate just how far we have come, but also that we are involved in an imperfect and unfinished process. leda; that we are involved in an imperfect and unfinished process.— and unfinished process. lady mary peters standing _ and unfinished process. lady mary peters standing by _ and unfinished process. lady mary peters standing by with _ and unfinished process. lady mary peters standing by with the - and unfinished process. lady mary peters standing by with the rest i and unfinished process. lady maryj peters standing by with the rest of the dignitaries.— the dignitaries. lady mary peters, of course, the dignitaries. lady mary peters, of course. one _ the dignitaries. lady mary peters, of course, one of— the dignitaries. lady mary peters, of course, one of northern - the dignitaries. lady mary peters, i of course, one of northern ireland's most famous athletes and has just celebrated the anniversary of winning a gold medal in the pentathlon in 1972.- winning a gold medal in the pentathlon in 1972. that was in munich. and _ pentathlon in 1972. that was in munich. and it's _ pentathlon in 1972. that was in munich. and it's not _ pentathlon in 1972. that was in munich. and it's notjust i munich. and it's notjust dignitaries in this room, there are a lord lieutenants from across northern ireland. there has been a concerted effort to invite other people, representatives of the emergency services here, the northern ireland fire and rescue service, the angle and service, the police service of northern ireland. —— the ambulance service. and two representatives of the national trust in northern ireland. and one train driver is here and one fireman. and halfway down the aisle there are two men with a particular story of a particular moment with the queen. it is the dean of enniskillen cathedral, kenneth hall, and across from him, the parish reverend, peter o'reilly, who were at the centre of the landmark event in 2012 when the queen visited enniskillen.— enniskillen. she visited enniskillen, _ enniskillen. she visited enniskillen, which i enniskillen. she visited enniskillen, which of i enniskillen. she visited - enniskillen, which of course is enniskillen. she visited _ enniskillen, which of course is one of the cities in northern ireland that were touched grievously by the troubles but she made the point of attending a church of ireland service and then walked publicly across the main road to the catholic church just opposite the church of ireland church and it was very much a public symbol of reaching out the hand between the denominations. and in recent times we have heard the two clerics involve saying that they felt almost like the queen was putting them on the spot a little bit, making them attest to having done their homework because she said, of course to the head of the anglican church, that she wanted to know exactly what they had been doing to promote reconciliation in their area. the doing to promote reconciliation in their area. . , ~ their area. the rich green silk damask walls _ their area. the rich green silk damask walls were _ their area. the rich green silk damask walls were lovingly . their area. the rich green silk- damask walls were lovingly restored during the more recent restoration works at hillsborough castle and the exact sect pattern can be found in red at kensington palace throughout the king's state apartments. and at the king's state apartments. and at the top you will see the coat of arms. local embroiderers created the piece that was originally intended for george v, but so intricate was the work and so long that it took that it was his son, edward viii, who had come to the throne by the time it was completed. so, we are standing by now for the message of condolence. the first person we will see entering the room from the back is the lord lieutenant of county down, rowan hamilton. and he will be followed by the speaker of the northern ireland assembly, alex maskey. the coat of arms. and she would be forgiven, given the name of this room, and the look of that furniture for thinking they are thrown is, but they are in fact not thrown is, but they are in fact not thrown so. they are chairs of state. they represent the monarchy in his absence. officially the governors of northern ireland and their wives were officially allowed to sit on them. and there has not been a governor since the role of cabinet secretary was created in 1972. mark, i want to talk a little about alex maskey, the speaker, a member of sinn fein. it is a remarkable personaljourney that he has been on to find himself in this place on this day. to find himself in this place on this da . �* to find himself in this place on thisda. , to find himself in this place on thisda . �* , ., this day. alex maskey, quite a character- _ this day. alex maskey, quite a character. before _ this day. alex maskey, quite a character. before he _ this day. alex maskey, quite a character. before he became l this day. alex maskey, quite a l character. before he became an active politician he was known as a successful amateur boxer, famously losing only four out of 75 fights, so not somebody you would cross lightly. he took that attitude on into politics and was a supporter of the republican movement but was one of the earliest elected representatives elected to belfast city council in 1983. more recently now, as a veteran republican, he has been elected into place as speaker of the northern ireland assembly. but he was actually intending to step down from politics in the last northern ireland election which took place in may and is no longer an elected politician. but part and parcel of what is happening here in terms of continuing disagreement between the politician means that assembly is not sitting and they are not able to elect a successor for alex maskey, so that peculiarity of our political history has put him in the spotlight today. that he is still there, in place, still running the building at stormont house and will be delivering a message of condolence, and one reason it is a message rather than a motion is that it is not happening in the assembly. that is a bit of a contrast to what happened in the scottish parliament yesterday and what will happen in the welsh senate later in the week. but it's also the case that if they had wanted to pass a motion, they couldn't have passed one, because at the moment, we are still in a political vacuum and no motions are going through until they manage to resolve the matter. 50. going through until they manage to resolve the matter.— resolve the matter. so, 'ust finishin: resolve the matter. so, 'ust finishing their i resolve the matter. so, 'ust finishing their meeting h resolve the matter. so, just finishing their meeting in i resolve the matter. so, just - finishing their meeting in private with the king. northern ireland's political leaders and representatives of the five major parties, that is alex maskey, the speaker, taking his seat. you saw sinn fein vice president, michelle odile, the leader of the —— michelle o'neill. there is naomi long of the alliance, currentlyjustice minister in the caretaker role. it alliance, currently justice minister in the caretaker role.— alliance, currently justice minister in the caretaker role. it would have been nice to _ in the caretaker role. it would have been nice to be _ in the caretaker role. it would have been nice to be a _ in the caretaker role. it would have been nice to be a fly _ in the caretaker role. it would have been nice to be a fly on _ in the caretaker role. it would have been nice to be a fly on the - in the caretaker role. it would have been nice to be a fly on the wall. in the caretaker role. it would have been nice to be a fly on the wall in| been nice to be a fly on the wall in the meeting with the local politicians, because, obviously, king charles will no doubt be using his good offices to promote as much compromise is possible but i'm sure as the monarch he would not want to get into the nitty—gritty of the detail that separates them. $1150 detail that separates them. also here, the leader _ detail that separates them. also here, the leader of _ detail that separates them. also here, the leader of the dup, sir jeffrey donaldson, very much his neck of the woods. he is the local mp. and such a difference in the throne room compared to the scene we saw outside hillsborough castle with the cheers and clapping as the king arrived with camilla, the queen consort. this is an altogether more solemn occasion. we are awaiting the lord lieutenant of county down. an interesting individual in his own right. he is actually a _ individual in his own right. he is actually a man _ individual in his own right. he is actually a man who _ individual in his own right. he is actually a man who does - individual in his own right. he is actually a man who does not - individual in his own right. he: 3 actually a man who does not live in actually a man who does not live in a castle, because hillsborough castle is not a castle, but it is a georgian mansion but does not have the turrets of the castle on the shores of strangford lough which you could fit into a disneyland style brochure if you wanted to. there will be people in this room thinking of her majesty the queen, would have worked very closely with her. one of them the lord lieutenant of county fermanagh, the personal lord in waiting to her majesty the queen since 1997, one of two lords of waiting. not to be mistaken to be akin to a lady in waiting, whose role is to step in for the queen during state visits as dignitaries and world leaders are moving from one meeting to another. whether it is the airport to the palace, the function to downing street. mr brooke broke scott and president obama, trump and vladimir putin back in 2003. and he is as discreet as you might imagine him to be about the conversations that were had on their travels with those individuals. viscount brookeborough still has a family estate in fermanagh where other members of the family have an active country sports in that part of northern ireland.— country sports in that part of northern ireland. king charles iii is no stranger — northern ireland. king charles iii is no stranger to _ northern ireland. king charles iii is no stranger to this _ northern ireland. king charles iii is no stranger to this room. - northern ireland. king charles iii is no stranger to this room. he l northern ireland. king charles iii i is no stranger to this room. he held annual concerts here. they haven't returned since the pandemic, but normally there would be a grand piano in the corner in a nod to the great music that has been enjoyed here over the centuries. and since royal palaces took over the running of royal hillsborough, they have done a huge amount of work bringing it back to its former grandeur. before that work began, most people would admit this room had become a little bit tired. and being sensitive to the existing colour scheme and feeling in the room, they have done a magnificentjob in restoring it. the restoration was signed off and the castle reopened ljy signed off and the castle reopened by the then prince of wales in 2019. the lord lieutenant of down. and what we are expecting now is the speaker of the northern ireland assembly, alex maskey, to take to his feet. and give a message of condolence. king charles, during this period of public mourning for queen elizabeth, we are mindful that you and your family grieve on the passing of a mother, grandmotherand mother, grandmother and great—grandmother. i mother, grandmotherand great—grandmother. i hope you and your family great—grandmother. i hope you and yourfamily can take great—grandmother. i hope you and your family can take comfort from the appreciation and the warmth that has accompanied the tributes to the queen from across these islands and indeed across the world. i would like to sympathise with you at this difficult time. on the walls of the parliament building of stormont, there are images from two of queen elizabeth's visits, the first in 1953 and the second for the diamond jubilee in 2012. it's extraordinary to consider how much social and political change queen elizabeth witnessed in the time between those visits and indeed throughout her long reign. yesterday in the assembly of unionists, republicans, nationalists and for those who the constitution is not a main focus united to pay tribute to the queen. when she first came to the throne, no one would have anticipated an assembly so diverse and inclusive. nor i imagine would they have contemplated that someone from my own background and political tradition would be in this position today in front of you as speaker. you can of course never forget that over the last decades, too many have experienced a tragedy and sorrow which will never leave them. and we have to understand that there are those for whom our political process has not yet been enough to ease their hurt and pain. thankfully, with the good friday agreement and other significant developments, in that time we have also seen great efforts to build peace for the future, as painstaking and frustrating as it might at times be. queen elizabeth was not a distant observer in the progress of relationships in and between these islands. she personally demonstrated how individual acts of positive leadership can help break down barriers and encourage reconciliation. queen elizabeth showed that a small but significant gesture, a visit, handshake, crossing the street or speaking a few words of irish can make a huge difference in changing attitudes and building relationships. her of both the british and irish traditions was exceptionally significant. in all of this, she personally underlined that warm tradition is not diminished by reaching out to show respect to another. of course such acts of leadership do not come without risks or the need for courage and determination to see them through. we are thankfulfor queen we are thankful for queen elizabeth's commitment and encouragement to building peace and reconciliation across these islands, andindeed reconciliation across these islands, and indeed for all of those who seek to keep us moving towards that goal. with the queen consort at your side, you now lead an institution with a long history and tradition. i represent the elected assembly of a society which has struggled with the legacy of our past and how to move on from it without leaving those who have suffered behind. during her visit to dublin, queen elizabeth said that whatever life throws at us, our individual responses will be all the strongerfor us, our individual responses will be all the stronger for working together and sharing that load. let us all pay heed to that. as we remember queen elizabeth's positive leadership, let us all reflect that such leadership is still needed and let's be honest with ourselves enough to recognise that too often that leadership has been lacking when it has been most required. i want to acknowledge that your own words and actions over the years have already shown that you are seized of the importance of reconciliation and you are committed to playing your full part in that. the challenge for all of us now is to renew the work that you and the late queen elizabeth have already done, and responsibility on all of us is to work together to build a future for our whole community. in the time ahead, we will of course focus on our future at the start of this new era. however, the next few days will be focused on the family, nation and world paying its respects and saying goodbye to queen elizabeth. yesterday in parliament buildings, members expressed their condolences and sentiments of those they represent in our community. the thoughts and prayers of the assembly are with you and your family thoughts and prayers of the assembly are with you and yourfamily in your grief. may she rest in peace. my lords, ladies and gentlemen, on behalf_ my lords, ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of— my lords, ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of all my family, i can only offer_ behalf of all my family, i can only offer the — behalf of all my family, i can only offer the most heartfelt thanks for your condolences. i am offer the most heartfelt thanks for your condolences. lam here offer the most heartfelt thanks for your condolences. i am here today at a time _ your condolences. i am here today at a time of— your condolences. i am here today at a time of great personal sorrow as we mark_ a time of great personal sorrow as we mark the death of my beloved mother_ we mark the death of my beloved mother after a life most faithfully dedicated to the duty to which she had been — dedicated to the duty to which she had been called. it is fitting that we should meet at hillsborough, which _ we should meet at hillsborough, which my— we should meet at hillsborough, which my mother knew so well and in whose _ which my mother knew so well and in whose beautiful rose garden she always _ whose beautiful rose garden she always took such pleasure. in the years _ always took such pleasure. in the years since — always took such pleasure. in the years since she began her long life of public— years since she began her long life of public service, my mother saw northern— of public service, my mother saw northern ireland pass through momentous and historic changes. through— momentous and historic changes. through all those years, she never ceased _ through all those years, she never ceased to— through all those years, she never ceased to pray for the best of times, — ceased to pray for the best of times, for— ceased to pray for the best of times, for this place and its people whose _ times, for this place and its people whose stories she knew, whose sorrows— whose stories she knew, whose sorrows our family had failed and for whom — sorrows our family had failed and for whom she had a great affection and regard. my mother felt deeply, for whom she had a great affection and regard. my motherfelt deeply, i know, _ and regard. my motherfelt deeply, i know. the _ and regard. my motherfelt deeply, i know, the significance of the role she herself played in bringing together those who history had separated, and in extending a hand to make— separated, and in extending a hand to make possible the healing of long—held hurts. at the very beginning of her life of service, the queen made a pledge to dedicate herself— the queen made a pledge to dedicate herself to _ the queen made a pledge to dedicate herself to her country and to her people _ herself to her country and to her people and to maintain the principles of constitutional governance. this promise she kept with steadfast faith. now with that shining _ with steadfast faith. now with that shining example before me and with god's_ shining example before me and with god's help, i take up my new duties resolved _ god's help, i take up my new duties resolved to— god's help, i take up my new duties resolved to seek the welfare of all the inhabitants of northern ireland. during _ the inhabitants of northern ireland. during the — the inhabitants of northern ireland. during the years of my mother's reign, _ during the years of my mother's reign, it— during the years of my mother's reign, it has been a privilege to bear— reign, it has been a privilege to bear witness to such a devoted life. may it _ bear witness to such a devoted life. may it be _ bear witness to such a devoted life. may it be granted to us all to fulfil— may it be granted to us all to fulfil the _ may it be granted to us all to fulfil the tasks before us so well. king charles and the queen consort make their way through the assembled guests in the throne room to their next business. they will soon join assembled guests who will move to the drawing room. let's discuss for a moment what we have just heard, both from his majesty and from the speaker of the northern ireland assembly. with me now professor margaret o'callaghan, a historian and political scientist at queen's university belfast, and lord hayne who as peter hain was secretary of state for northern ireland from may 2005 to june 2007. state for northern ireland from may 2005 tojune 2007. welcome to both of you. i think we are all still coming to terms, peter, with what we have just witnessed. it's quite remarkable to see alex maskey in his capacity as speaker of the northern ireland assembly delivering that message of condolence to king charles and the queen consort. did you almost have to pinch yourself? it was another one of those it will never happen moments that i experienced when i helped bring under tony blair ian paisley senior and martin mcguinness to share power together in 2007, and here you have a speaker of the northern ireland assembly, albeit suspended, who is from a deeply republican background giving the most warm and welcoming embrace to king charles iii and to his queen consort. and that would have been unthinkable even ten years ago, let alone before then. so that is another step along the road to peace and reconciliation. that presumably — peace and reconciliation. that presumably is _ peace and reconciliation. that presumably is because - peace and reconciliation. that presumably is because of the actions and the words of queen elizabeth herself. ~ ,., ., , and the words of queen elizabeth herself. ~ ., , , ., herself. well, importantly it is a -roduct herself. well, importantly it is a product of _ herself. well, importantly it is a product of both _ herself. well, importantly it is a product of both the _ herself. well, importantly it is a product of both the progress - herself. well, importantly it is a | product of both the progress that has been made in northern ireland, where there is the chance to have democratic politics replace sectarianism and bigotry and hatred and of course the gun and the bomb. and the chance to normalise life. at the queen made steps which were without precedent, particularly given herfamily�*s history with without precedent, particularly given her family's history with the assassination of lord mountbatten to whom she was very close.— whom she was very close. margaret, ut it into whom she was very close. margaret, put it into some _ whom she was very close. margaret, put it into some wider— whom she was very close. margaret, put it into some wider context - whom she was very close. margaret, put it into some wider context for . put it into some wider context for us. what have we just witnessed? alex maskey is a very interesting figure _ alex maskey is a very interesting figure it — alex maskey is a very interesting figure. it is... at the moment there is, as— figure. it is... at the moment there is, as we _ figure. it is... at the moment there is, as we know, no assembly functioning in northern ireland. it was therefore problematic how the new king _ was therefore problematic how the new king would be received, so it is very interesting that alex maskey has gone — very interesting that alex maskey has gone to the lengths of putting together— has gone to the lengths of putting together so carefully tailored a speech— together so carefully tailored a speech on behalf of the assembly. i mean, _ speech on behalf of the assembly. i mean. the _ speech on behalf of the assembly. i mean, the wider context, he referred to himself _ mean, the wider context, he referred to himself. the wider context is i suppose — to himself. the wider context is i suppose ireland from partition 100 years— suppose ireland from partition 100 years ago — suppose ireland from partition 100 years ago. it is almost 100 years since _ years ago. it is almost 100 years since then, — years ago. it is almost 100 years since then, and what he has referred to as _ since then, and what he has referred to as differing traditions. alex maskey— to as differing traditions. alex maskey spoke about the fact that in 1961 or— maskey spoke about the fact that in 1961 or two when the first evidence of queen— 1961 or two when the first evidence of queen elizabeth being in northern ireland _ of queen elizabeth being in northern ireland within stormont was present, he just— ireland within stormont was present, he just said _ ireland within stormont was present, he just said who could have imagined that given _ he just said who could have imagined that given the kind of sectarian society— that given the kind of sectarian society northern ireland was in the 60s you _ society northern ireland was in the 60s you could have an assembly so diverse _ 60s you could have an assembly so diverse today? so the wider context is partition — diverse today? so the wider context is partition. it�*s diverse today? so the wider context is artition. �* , , ., is partition. it's interesting to hear alex _ is partition. it's interesting to hear alex maskey _ is partition. it's interesting to hear alex maskey talking - is partition. it's interesting to l hear alex maskey talking about is partition. it's interesting to - hear alex maskey talking about the positive leadership demonstrated by queen elizabeth and making the point we need to see more of that to deal with the political hiatus in northern ireland. he also interestingly spoke irish on two occasions in his comments and that seemed to be very warmly responded to by king charles. it seemed to be very warmly responded to by king charles.— to by king charles. it was, and it is aaain to by king charles. it was, and it is again a _ to by king charles. it was, and it is again a small _ to by king charles. it was, and it is again a small but _ to by king charles. it was, and it is again a small but important i to by king charles. it was, and it l is again a small but important sign of progress. because not so long ago. _ of progress. because not so long ago. that— of progress. because not so long ago, that would have been unthinkable again. it is a sign that there _ unthinkable again. it is a sign that there is— unthinkable again. it is a sign that there is still a lot of work to do, a lot— there is still a lot of work to do, a lot of— there is still a lot of work to do, a lot of problems, a lot of sectarianism still there. but that was another signal that people — but that was another signal that people are beginning to accept each other— people are beginning to accept each other a _ people are beginning to accept each other a bit— people are beginning to accept each other a bit more.— people are beginning to accept each other a bit more. progress has been made and we _ other a bit more. progress has been made and we will _ other a bit more. progress has been made and we will speak— other a bit more. progress has been made and we will speak to - other a bit more. progress has been made and we will speak to you - other a bit more. progress has been| made and we will speak to you again shortly. but let's hear again from some of the king's younger subjects in northern ireland, some of those lucky enough to have spent time with him. obviously it is a sad circumstance because the queen was absolutely amazing for the nation as a whole. but i think he will fill her shoes well. when i met king charles he took a liking to us, he spent ten or 15 minutes with us which was mind blowing at the time, i was about ten or 11 and it was mind blowing and i was or11 and it was mind blowing and i was in or 11 and it was mind blowing and i was in awe. or 11 and it was mind blowing and i was in awe-— or 11 and it was mind blowing and i was in awe. you hear about princes in the movie _ was in awe. you hear about princes in the movie stuff _ was in awe. you hear about princes in the movie stuff but _ was in awe. you hear about princes in the movie stuff but whenever- was in awe. you hear about princes| in the movie stuff but whenever you meet _ in the movie stuff but whenever you meet them — in the movie stuff but whenever you meet them in real life they are very dead on. _ meet them in real life they are very dead on, just walking about in their suits~ _ dead on, just walking about in their suits~ they— dead on, just walking about in their suits. they are not in their robes and going — suits. they are not in their robes and going about touching everyone in the head _ and going about touching everyone in the head and that kind of thing, so he is _ the head and that kind of thing, so he is very— the head and that kind of thing, so he is very normal. that struck me. i suppose _ he is very normal. that struck me. i suppose that — he is very normal. that struck me. i suppose that was maybe one of my earliest _ suppose that was maybe one of my earliest political situations, you could _ earliest political situations, you could say — earliest political situations, you could say. it earliest political situations, you could sa . ., , earliest political situations, you could sa . , ., ., could say. it was surreal to meet the now king _ could say. it was surreal to meet the now king and _ could say. it was surreal to meet the now king and queen - could say. it was surreal to meet| the now king and queen consort. could say. it was surreal to meet i the now king and queen consort. i think— the now king and queen consort. i think it's _ the now king and queen consort. i think it's interesting _ the now king and queen consort. i think it's interesting that— the now king and queen consort. i think it's interesting that charles l think it's interesting that charles will become _ think it's interesting that charles will become the _ think it's interesting that charles will become the new— think it's interesting that charles will become the new king, - think it's interesting that charles will become the new king, given| think it's interesting that charles - will become the new king, given that i think— will become the new king, given that i think he _ will become the new king, given that i think he was— will become the new king, given that i think he was a — will become the new king, given that i think he was a bit— will become the new king, given that i think he was a bit more _ will become the new king, given that i think he was a bit more outspoken. i think he was a bit more outspoken than the _ i think he was a bit more outspoken than the queen— i think he was a bit more outspoken than the queen on _ i think he was a bit more outspoken than the queen on certain - i think he was a bit more outspoken than the queen on certain issues i than the queen on certain issues such— than the queen on certain issues such as _ than the queen on certain issues such as climate _ than the queen on certain issues such as climate change. - than the queen on certain issues such as climate change. i- than the queen on certain issues such as climate change. i hope . than the queen on certain issuesl such as climate change. i hope he will reach — such as climate change. i hope he will reach out _ such as climate change. i hope he will reach out to _ such as climate change. i hope he will reach out to younger- such as climate change. i hope he will reach out to younger people i such as climate change. i hope he i will reach out to younger people and speak— will reach out to younger people and speak to _ will reach out to younger people and speak to them — will reach out to younger people and speak to them more. _ will reach out to younger people and speak to them more. sometimes - will reach out to younger people and speak to them more. sometimes i. speak to them more. sometimes i think— speak to them more. sometimes i think young — speak to them more. sometimes i think young people's _ speak to them more. sometimes i think young people's voices - speak to them more. sometimes i think young people's voices are i speak to them more. sometimes i. think young people's voices are lost whenever— think young people's voices are lost whenever this — think young people's voices are lost whenever this kind _ think young people's voices are lost whenever this kind of— think young people's voices are lost whenever this kind of thing - think young people's voices are lost. whenever this kind of thing happens. they were _ whenever this kind of thing happens. they were visiting _ whenever this kind of thing happens. they were visiting and _ whenever this kind of thing happens. they were visiting and there - whenever this kind of thing happens. they were visiting and there is - whenever this kind of thing happens. they were visiting and there is a - they were visiting and there is a delegation from some of the local schools. obviously there is the hype and build up and we were standing in the line and i were speaking to my friend on the left and i turned around and he was right beside me so i was caught a bit off guard. he asked me, do you play hockey? and i was like, no, iam asked me, do you play hockey? and i was like, no, i am a cricket player. i didn't have a lot of time to talk but he was very friendly. it is a much different britain than it was done when his mother took over. but how he can make it relevant for young people and keep it up—to—date, rather him than me! let's cross back to hillsborough castle now where the king will soon join a reception for assembled guests. declan harvey and mark devenport are there. welcome to the stage drawing room at hillsborough castle. clearly the atmosphere inside the castle has relaxed somewhat after the solemn messages, or message, of condolence and the response from king charles iii. but this is a room, quite a large room, but certainly it underlines what has been said about hillsborough castle, that it has a homely atmosphere. as you walk round the stage drawing room, there are soft furnishings, photo frames, with relaxed photos of the royal family in them. just in the centre of your screen at the back you might be able to see on the wall there is a portrait of the king by belfast born artist gareth reid unveiled during a visit to the castle following the renovation project. the painting shows the now king relaxing in a garden chair. at the time of the unveiling of the king admitted that he always gets a bit nervous before removing the curtain and seeing a portrait. he was reassured and he reassured gareth reid that when he saw the piece he liked it and he gave him the nod of approval. i'm stilljoined by the bbc�*s former political editor in northern ireland mark devenport. lots of recognisable faces here waiting to greet the king and the queen consort. yes. faces here waiting to greet the king and the queen consort.— faces here waiting to greet the king and the queen consort. yes, we are seeinu and the queen consort. yes, we are seeing some — and the queen consort. yes, we are seeing some politicians, _ and the queen consort. yes, we are seeing some politicians, michelle i seeing some politicians, michelle o'neill, sinn fein's vice president, leader of the largest party at stormont, will be the first minister if we have the formation of the northern ireland executive, given the current arithmetic. also jane brady, i can see, the head of the northern ireland civil service mingling with other politicians. jim allister, a traditional unionist, jen beattie, sirjeffrey donaldson and naomi long kameda matthew o'toole, representative of the nationalist sdlp but has a background as a civil servant who worked for david cameron in downing street, so he is a very interesting journey through politics. but this room is a room which is normally set out as a sitting room, a drawing room with comfy chairs around. they have been pushed away to allow so many people to mingle in there. it is certainly more informal than the throne room where everybody seemed to be a bit tense waiting for the proceedings to get under way. these proceedings to get under way. those who remember— proceedings to get under way. those who remember the _ proceedings to get under way. those who remember the anglo-irish - who remember the anglo—irish agreement between margaret thatcher and then irish taoiseach prime minister gareth fitzgerald, will have seen images from this very room, it is where it was signed, such an important step along the journey of northern ireland politics. journey of northern ireland olitics. ., ., , ., journey of northern ireland olitics. . ., ., politics. that was an important step in terms of — politics. that was an important step in terms of british _ politics. that was an important step in terms of british irish _ politics. that was an important step in terms of british irish relations, i in terms of british irish relations, signed by guy fitzgerald and later margaret thatcher. it was again one of those points you don't necessarily take everybody along with you because unionists were enraged about the irish consultation in the affairs of northern ireland and the streets of hillsborough at that time were being backed by anglo—irish agreement protesters. whilst this is obviously a formal occasion, this particular room has hosted some quite informal occasions, i think of the time when mo mowlam was secretary of state. one of the more colourful secretaries of state.- one of the more colourful secretaries of state. she had many celebrity visitors, _ secretaries of state. she had many celebrity visitors, including - secretaries of state. she had many celebrity visitors, including in - celebrity visitors, including in this room, and she would have had parties here, spilling out onto the terrace, it may be we will see some of the guests making their way onto the terrace later. she writes in her memoirs, for instance, about having the entire cast of the rocky horror picture show in this room, and it became almost a re—enactment of the musical, i think, became almost a re—enactment of the musical, ithink, the became almost a re—enactment of the musical, i think, the party that took place there. she also talks about the reverend richard coles playing the piano which i think had been pushed to the corner of the room at the moment. we been pushed to the corner of the room at the moment.— been pushed to the corner of the room at the moment. we were kindly uiven a room at the moment. we were kindly given a walk — room at the moment. we were kindly given a walk through _ room at the moment. we were kindly given a walk through this _ room at the moment. we were kindly given a walk through this room - room at the moment. we were kindly given a walk through this room a - given a walk through this room a little earlier. the piano in the corner we couldn't help have a peep at what music or sitting on the piano. there was sheet music of in the gloaming. the french windows are used to step out onto the terrace during garden parties here. there are around 100 acres of gardens around but the original hillsborough family had much larger grounds, they do make the estates ran from north of belfast in larne to south of dublin, around 115,000 acres. although all the members of the royal family have been here from time to time for public events, it is understood they quite regularly visit for private weekends, including the king and queen consort, who is said to have enjoyed painting in the gardens. he is an avid watercolourist and some of the pieces hanging on the wall in the stage drawing room were painted by the king. the stage drawing room were painted b the kinu. . the stage drawing room were painted b thekina. , ., , the stage drawing room were painted b thekina. , ., _, by the king. there is actually a very interesting _ by the king. there is actually a very interesting collection - by the king. there is actually a very interesting collection of l very interesting collection of artwork there. because obviously some of it connects the royal connections of hillsborough castle, as you said, the picture of the king and there is also a picture of his mother when she was much younger. but in an anteroom known as the lady grey study just off the area we but in an anteroom known as the lady grey studyjust off the area we are looking at now where the guests are visiting, there is a collection of political art, the likes of martin mcguinness, gerry adams, ian paisley pictured there. many of the works of art on display are actually works of art on display are actually works of art in preparation for finished works that are being shown elsewhere. works that are being shown elsewhere-— works that are being shown l elsewhere._ if works that are being shown - elsewhere._ if you elsewhere. test paintings. if you like. one elsewhere. test paintings. if you like- one of _ elsewhere. test paintings. if you like. one of the _ elsewhere. test paintings. if you like. one of the principles - elsewhere. test paintings. if you | like. one of the principles behind that exhibition is that art, like politics, is all about lengthy preparation and you don't necessarilyjump preparation and you don't necessarily jump to the preparation and you don't necessarilyjump to the final work overnight. i think that that is deliberate on the part of the historic royal palaces to give you that kind of mixture of politics and preparation. the queen first visited hillsborough castle in 1945 as a princess. this room, we are told, is decorated in colours favoured by her mother queen elizabeth the queen mother and the queen mother's links to hillsborough castle were also significant. if you follow the family tree, it was her sister, lady rose bowes—lyon who married the earl of granville who was governor of northern ireland from 1945 — 52. hillsborough castle at the time was the governor's official residence, so clearly the couple lived here, and it was then that the queen first came to stay with her aunt in 19115. today the visitors can enjoy the elegant granville garden developed by lady granville, and in fact, the monarch's seat in the state dining room on the other side of the castle, we are told it has been positioned specifically so that the sovereign can see out over the granville garden and enjoy it during dinner. it should be fair to say the room has probably never looked this goodin room has probably never looked this good in recent times because whilst this was a government building, these were the rooms where negotiations were being hammered out, where people were taking a breather, where long nights were spent, sometimes in fraught debate. that's true. at the moment hillsborough castle is run by historic royal palaces who have done a marvellous renovationjob and opened it to the public and you can get tours, but previously it was very much a working building for the northern ireland office and hosted many negotiations, and packed in very many delegates from the different parties who will be chewing over matters like paramilitary disarmament, or whether justice powers should be moved from london to northern ireland. and whilst those negotiations went on through the night you would have some very unusual scenes of people sleeping in corridors, sleeping in the royal bedrooms, and so on. now we see the monarch coming in to greet the visitors and also the queen consort camilla shaking hands. we understand the queen consort will walk one side of the room. his majesty the king the other. the king being accompanied by chris heaton—harris, the new secretary of state, who of course, can also call hillsborough castle his official residence. it’s hillsborough castle his official residence. �* . . hillsborough castle his official residence-— residence. it's an interesting osition residence. it's an interesting position for _ residence. it's an interesting position for chris _ residence. it's an interesting position for chris heaton - residence. it's an interesting i position for chris heaton harris residence. it's an interesting - position for chris heaton harris to be in because he'sjust been appointed by liz truss as northern ireland secretaryjust a week appointed by liz truss as northern ireland secretary just a week ago, and so in some ways he is showing king charles around this house but king charles around this house but king charles around this house but king charles actually knows the house probably rather better than chris heaton—harris given his long history of involvement. and also part of the new northern ireland office team we have steve baker, the minister of state, a central player in the whole brexit drama and he is now on the shoulder of camilla, the queen consort, showing her around the guests and introducing them. among those meeting the king will be the current chief constable of the police service of northern ireland simon brown. and one of northern ireland's most well—known olympians, ireland's most well—known olympians, i think that's fair to say, lady mary peters, who just a couple of weeks ago celebrated 50 years since winning gold in the pentathlon in munich. this room was originally designed as a library. but the books, the entire collection, was sold off at auction in 1906. we have no idea where they have ended up. a lot of the historical family documents, the paperwork, accounts, plans, letters, they all survived in northern ireland's public record office, thought to be as many as 50,000 documents tracking the long story of hillsborough castle. we are told it takes 300 boxes to hold all the records. there is another remarkable story about this room and how it now benefits from renovations because it was utterly destroyed in a fire in 193a. it because it was utterly destroyed in a fire in1931i. it gutted the building. but that was turned into an opportunity by those in charge to improve some of the spaces. it is believed the fire was started in the roof by a lit cigarette discarded by a careless guard who was lowering the flag to our knowledge of the death of president hindenburg of germany. but clearly gave way to what are now stunning state rooms and apartments. obviously, my speciality has been in more recent politics, but you mentioned the original owner of hillsborough castle, and he had political meetings here going back into the 18th century, famously hosting benjamin franklin there. there are differing accounts of how well they did or did not get on, but it's fair to say that, as far as the british monarchy was concerned, king george iii, that didn't end very well because he was the secretary of state for the american colonies, and of course, the american colonies went their own way. the speaker of the northern ireland assembly, in conversation with the queen consort. and michele o'neill, vice president of sinn fein, the party's northern leader. and since the last election in may, the first minister designate of northern ireland, leader of the largest party. you can see that big row of medals on the chest of doug beattie, leader of the ulster unionist, reflecting the fact that he was a soldier in the royal irish rangers and saw active service where he was involved in very many fights for survival in afghanistan, and now camilla has moved on to chat with sirjeffrey donaldson, leader of the dup, member of the privy council. they may well have met before, i'm sure king charles has metjeffrey donaldson before. beside him is naomi long, the leader of the alliance party here. king charles talking to guests on the other side of the drawing room. has talking to guests on the other side of the drawing room.— talking to guests on the other side of the drawing room. as member of the privy council, _ of the drawing room. as member of the privy council, sir— of the drawing room. as member of the privy council, sirjeffrey - the privy council, sirjeffrey donaldson was at st james's palace. for the proclamation there. and this is naomi long, leader of the alliance party, which sits outside the traditional binary look of politics here.— the traditional binary look of olitics here. . , ., . politics here. there was a reference in alex maskey's _ politics here. there was a reference in alex maskey's message - politics here. there was a reference in alex maskey's message where i politics here. there was a reference j in alex maskey's message where he said he was delivering a message on behalf of unionists and republicans and also those for whom the constitution is not their main focus, and that was really a reference to the alliance party, who say they want to make northern ireland work and, if you like, save decisions about whether it should be british or irish for later. representatives of the armed forces, joined by the chief constable. and this is a space that the king will feel very relaxed in. he has been here for many public events and private weekends — a home away from home. i'v e i've been told on previous visits here that he takes a very detailed interest in hillsborough castle and how it looks, notjust what kind of artwork there is on the walls, but obviously, with his interest in horticulture, he is very interested in the gardens and what the look of the castle should be outside. find in the gardens and what the look of the castle should be outside. and we understand that, _ the castle should be outside. and we understand that, as _ the castle should be outside. and we understand that, as he _ the castle should be outside. and we understand that, as he has _ the castle should be outside. and we understand that, as he has done - the castle should be outside. and we. understand that, as he has done many times previously, the king will make his way towards the french doors, currently to his right, and he is expected to step outside and speak to members of 206 ulster battery royal artillery. they have been firing the gun is here at hillsborough over the last few days. friday, saturday, sunday and again today. clearly, a relaxed atmosphere in this room. which will be in stark contrast to the more solemn service we are expecting at st anne's cathedral in belfast city centre a little later. and mark, politically, quite a moment, isn't it, when you see representatives from the nationalist side of politics in a room, greeting the new monarch? it’s side of politics in a room, greeting the new monarch?— the new monarch? it's yet another s mbol of the new monarch? it's yet another symbol of how _ the new monarch? it's yet another symbol of how far _ the new monarch? it's yet another symbol of how far things _ the new monarch? it's yet another symbol of how far things have - symbol of how far things have changed in northern ireland. you have almost all shades of opinion represented stop of course, this is still a process which is in development, and just a few days ago, sinn fein made it clear that they weren't going to attend the accession ceremony because they saw that as being a ceremony for those who showed allegiance to the british crown, but they were happy to attend this function because they believed it was all about passing on a personal message of condolence, or a message of condolence from the assembly to king charles. and here we see those who have been involved in the military side of the ceremonies, waiting to meet the monarch on the steps at the back of hillsborough castle. very lovely grounds, these. ads, hillsborough castle. very lovely grounds, these.— hillsborough castle. very lovely grounds, these. hillsborough castle. very lovely rounds, these. . ., ., grounds, these. a dedicated team of 16 gardeners — grounds, these. a dedicated team of 16 gardeners and _ grounds, these. a dedicated team of 16 gardeners and volunteers - grounds, these. a dedicated team of 16 gardeners and volunteers work i 16 gardeners and volunteers work continuously on the gardens, enormous gardens at hillsborough castle. very beautiful gardens, too. as we said, on private weekends, the king is thought to enjoy painting in those grounds. the 206 ulster battery royal artillery, members of which have been mobilised to support the regular army on a number of different operations, with soldiers having served in iraq, afghanistan, cyprus, canada, kosovo and bosnia. and on a beautiful day in county down, it would be hard to find a more lovely corner than the south terrace of hillsborough castle. familiar to anyone who has been at one of the garden parties here. and so enjoyed by secretaries of state in northern ireland, who get to have it all to themselves.— it all to themselves. that's the difference _ it all to themselves. that's the difference these _ it all to themselves. that's the difference these days, - it all to themselves. that's the difference these days, there i it all to themselves. that's the difference these days, there isj it all to themselves. that's the i difference these days, there is a more regular opening out of the grounds to the public than would have been possible, of course. i think mo mowlam, in her memoirs, said she was keen to open up the castle more, but there were always security fears at that particular time, and it has only been more recently that it has been turned over, if you like, to a more commercial existence, although those grounds we were looking at have been used regularly for garden parties with the queen or other senior members of the royal family in attendance, and many a function has been held there. has attendance, and many a function has been held there.— been held there. as we said, there are almost — been held there. as we said, there are almost 100 _ been held there. as we said, there are almost 100 acres _ been held there. as we said, there are almost 100 acres of _ been held there. as we said, there are almost 100 acres of grounds i are almost 100 acres of grounds around the castle, leading right up to that portico is what is known as first night. it is beautiful. it is the old road out of hillsborough to a nearby village. as these things go. a nearby village. as these things 90- " a nearby village. as these things go. —— known as yewtree walk. the road was devoted to allow yewtree walk to —— devoted to allow yewtree walk to —— devoted to allow yewtree walk to —— devoted to allow yewtree walk to impress. representatives of the catholic church and protestant church in enniskillen, where in 2012 the queen walked across the road from one to the other, and the symbolism of that wasn't lost on anyone. they describe a conversation with the queen as having been like being scolded by your grandmother, because she directly asked them, what are you doing on a daily basis to help the communities in northern ireland come together? and they took it on board, and lots has been done since then, and continues to be done. ajoint service since then, and continues to be done. a joint service will be held in the next few days to remember and pay tribute to queen elizabeth ii. back outside in the sunshine, prince charles continuing to talk to some more of his visitors. we were talking earlier on about the fact that this was one of the first places that his mother visited, because her aunt was in residence, the wife of the northern ireland governor. it was clearly a place she always had a very special place in her heart for, because i think it was the first time she took an aeroplane after world war ii. it obviously wouldn't have been safe during wartime, but they took a flight across and she came to visit, and she came back within a year, entirely on her own. obviously enjoyed so much the time that she had here, and during that visit, which i think was in 19116, had here, and during that visit, which i think was in 1916, she actually went to a small town in northern ireland elsewhere in county down and attended a christening where she acted as godmother to one of her best friends, who was a lady in waiting for the palace, and i think also had a role here at the hillsborough castle residence. the bo s' hillsborough castle residence. tue: boys' brigade, hillsborough castle residence. tte: boys' brigade, the girls' hillsborough castle residence. t'te: boys' brigade, the girls' brigade, girl guiding, the scouts, all well represented. what has been startling about the scenes we have seen at royal hillsborough since thursday is the amount of younger people who have come, who have wanted to be involved, who have wanted to pay tribute. on thursday night, late into the night, it was dark at royal hillsborough. the rain was coming down in sheets, but there were groups of teenagers coming up in the early stages of that carpet of flowers we now see outside hillsborough castle, but they were coming up in small groups, standing in silence. . v , in silence. that's peter kyle, the shadow secretary _ in silence. that's peter kyle, the shadow secretary of _ in silence. that's peter kyle, the shadow secretary of state - in silence. that's peter kyle, the shadow secretary of state for i shadow secretary of state for northern ireland, labour's front person on northern ireland, having a word, i think, person on northern ireland, having a word, ithink, with person on northern ireland, having a word, i think, with king charles. king charles moving down now to meet members of the military. in advance of the arrival this morning, some of the groups gathering outside, there was a group of three older ladies who had left their nursing home this morning at 5am to be here and get a front row seat at the front of hillsborough castle in order to see king charles and the queen consort. they said it was sad to be here, but the word they used was also very uplifting, and we have definitely seen that. 206 ulster battery royal artillery, who, we understand, it requested if they could meet king charles iii here. we're just we'rejust going to we're just going to leave those pictures of king charles talking to those responsible for delivering that 21 salute on his arrival earlier this afternoon. and we will come back to hillsborough for the departure of the king and the queen consort. with me in the studio still, the historian professor margaret o'callaghan from queen's university in belfast, and the former secretary of state, lord hayne. we were watching with interest the warmth in the room during that reception, peter, i think it's fair to say. a lot of politicians there, representatives of sinn fein. we know that alex maskey, the republican, who was interned, a member of the ira in the 19705, speaking on behalf of the people of northern ireland, representing all the parties in that message of condolence to the cane on the loss of his mother, queen elizabeth ii. and in that line up to meet the king and queen consort, he was standing beside michelle o'neill, the first minister designate, and alongside them, so jeffrey donaldson, leader of the do dup, doug beattie, former british soldier, with his medals on his chest, leader of the ulster unionist party. quite an interesting mix of people, and really, fascinating event we have just witnessed. tl is. event we have 'ust witnessed. it is, and seeing — event we have just witnessed. it is, and seeing hillsborough _ event we have just witnessed. tit 3 and seeing hillsborough castle in its glory, having stayed at the official residence of the secretary official residence of the secretary of state for over two years and spent some happy times there, and some tough times negotiating, it was really nice to see it. it is also the official residence of the monarch when they are in situ. it is now the king's bedroom, and the consort�*s bedroom alongside each other on the first floor. but, you know, it is this giant stride. it is very frustrating, as i am sure margaret will say, for northern ireland citizens to have their legislature suspended, and this kind of stand—off as a result of the dup stance, but it is nevertheless light years away from where it was, and another sign of progress today. interesting how king charles and the queen consort camilla have helped nudge it along that road. margaret, ruefull , nudge it along that road. margaret, ruefully. we — nudge it along that road. margaret, ruefully, we don't _ nudge it along that road. margaret, ruefully, we don't want _ nudge it along that road. margaret, ruefully, we don't want to - nudge it along that road. margaret, ruefully, we don't want to become l ruefully, we don't want to become dewy eyed, but there are still huge political challenges in northern ireland right now, no functioning government. ireland right now, no functioning government-— ireland right now, no functioning government. there are enormous olitical government. there are enormous political challenges. _ government. there are enormous political challenges. the - government. there are enormous political challenges. the situation | political challenges. the situation on the _ political challenges. the situation on the protocol is unclear, the new appointments by liz truss, we don't know— appointments by liz truss, we don't know how— appointments by liz truss, we don't know how they will pan out. we probably— know how they will pan out. we probably won't know for a while. politically, things are deeply unstable. what is quite interesting is that— unstable. what is quite interesting is that sinn fein have chosen to play— is that sinn fein have chosen to play a _ is that sinn fein have chosen to play a role _ is that sinn fein have chosen to play a role of actually stabilising government in northern ireland by the ektent— government in northern ireland by the extent to which they have stepped — the extent to which they have stepped up to the plate and been representative of the institutions in acknowledging, you know, the sorrow _ in acknowledging, you know, the sorrow of— in acknowledging, you know, the sorrow of people across the border in northern— sorrow of people across the border in northern ireland on the death of the queen — in northern ireland on the death of the queen. that's pretty interesting, i think. just to bring you up—to—date with what is happening at royal hillsborough, the king hasjust left his invited guests, with security issues still a concern on any royal visit, glimpse, or perhaps a brief handshake is often all any member of the public might hope for. changed times from the queen's visits to northern ireland on her coronation tourin northern ireland on her coronation tour in 1953. then one man at least got up close to the young queen and it is him we have to thank for capturing that visit in glorious colour. harold patterson was my daughter explains now how her father managed to film such a remarkable footage. —— harold patterson's daughter. tl footage. -- harold patterson's daughter-— footage. -- harold patterson's dau:hter. , ., ., ,, ., daughter. it is hard to know where dad aot daughter. it is hard to know where dad got his — daughter. it is hard to know where dad got his love _ daughter. it is hard to know where dad got his love of _ daughter. it is hard to know where dad got his love of filming - daughter. it is hard to know where dad got his love of filming from. i daughter. it is hard to know where l dad got his love of filming from. he was only 23 and he was a shopkeeper in lisburn selling farm goods, but he was a keen film—maker and he was part of a local photography club. it was very significant for dad that the queen came to lisburn, his home town. it was a big deal. he was a country boy and this was a momentous occasion for him, and i think all of these things were what motivated him to really do his best, to seek her out and work with the photography club to get these shots. it was just the opportunity of a lifetime. dad was fortunate that he knew the local county inspector and he was given a permission slip which said that he was to be granted access to a reasonable extent. reasonable extent was handwritten in and we often joked and teased dad as a family, you really did take an unreasonable extent because he got so close. it is easy to take colour for granted nowadays, isn't it? i look back and see then a similar footage at the time being in black and white and then i look at dad's footage. it does bring it so much more alive and that you feel the whole sense and smell of that period, and the weather, and just everything seems so much more alive. dad was probably aware that it was a really unique opportunity and i think he did just go for it and think i'm going to see what i can get away with. i think those of us that new dad, he often showed that cheekiness and perkiness about him. he did say that it was a completely mad day going to the airport and then flying up. dad loved that. he had a real sense of passion. he loved a good challenge. ijust imagine him absolutely loving trying to get through the crowds and trying to get through the crowds and trying to get through the crowds and trying to find where to park the car and where to get out. he would have beenin and where to get out. he would have been in his element. he said he didn't expect to get such good footage. but somehow, you know, nobody batted an eyelid when he got in close, and i think he did realise the queen hasjust in close, and i think he did realise the queen has just come in close, and i think he did realise the queen hasjust come here in close, and i think he did realise the queen has just come here to northern ireland to my hometown, lisburn, i'm going to be there and i'm going to capture this moment. it was amazing what he managed to achieve. just absolutely remarkable footage captured in 1953 by harold patterson. it takes you back, it is as if you are there, isn't it? incredible. tl as if you are there, isn't it? incredible.— as if you are there, isn't it? incredible. . , ., incredible. it is interesting that it is lo al incredible. it is interesting that it is loyal lisburn, _ incredible. it is interesting that it is loyal lisburn, which - incredible. it is interesting that it is loyal lisburn, which was i incredible. it is interesting that i it is loyal lisburn, which was loyal then— it is loyal lisburn, which was loyal then and — it is loyal lisburn, which was loyal then and is— it is loyal lisburn, which was loyal then and is loyal now. it is also quite _ then and is loyal now. it is also quite interesting that people don't seem _ quite interesting that people don't seem to _ quite interesting that people don't seem to fly union jacks quite interesting that people don't seem to fly unionjacks in such proliferation as they do today. it's quite _ proliferation as they do today. it's quite an— proliferation as they do today. it's quite an interesting change. it's not the — quite an interesting change. it's not the kind of change we normally emphasise — not the kind of change we normally emphasise but i suppose a lot of these _ emphasise but i suppose a lot of these royal events show as there is a kind _ these royal events show as there is a kind of— these royal events show as there is a kind of invention of tradition going — a kind of invention of tradition going on— a kind of invention of tradition going on at all stages. 50, we see all of— going on at all stages. 50, we see all of this— going on at all stages. 50, we see all of this is— going on at all stages. 50, we see all of this is the past and history and tradition but actually the traditions are being added to all the time — traditions are being added to all the time. . traditions are being added to all the time. , , .. , ., the time. interesting because that was 1953, the time. interesting because that was 1953. the — the time. interesting because that was 1953, the queen's _ the time. interesting because that was 1953, the queen's first - the time. interesting because that was 1953, the queen's first visit i the time. interesting because that was 1953, the queen's first visit to northern ireland as monarch, today we have king charles's first visit to northern ireland as monarch, there is a parallel and asymmetry there. she was very much at the beginning of her lengthy reign. you had some dealings with her in later years, i think it was 2007 you said you were secretary of state in hillsborough castle which we have been enjoying seeing the pictures of today, and that you had cause to brief her in your capacity as secretary of state, and what struck you was just how engaged she was in what was happening. you wasjust how engaged she was in what was happening.— what was happening. absolutely. we met one just — what was happening. absolutely. we met one just the _ what was happening. absolutely. we met one just the two _ what was happening. absolutely. we met one just the two of— what was happening. absolutely. we met one just the two of us _ what was happening. absolutely. we met one just the two of us upstairs i met one just the two of us upstairs in the sitting room on the first floor just along from in the sitting room on the first floorjust along from her bedroom. my floorjust along from her bedroom. myjob was tojust floorjust along from her bedroom. myjob was to just tell her where i thought things were going. this was in the months before we got the settlement, and she was very interested. she was well informed. and it struck me, she had to command such a wide breadth of issues in her job, and no doubt because she was coming to northern ireland there was extra background for her. but it was a really good conversation. you felt you were having a conversation with somebody who really knew what was going on. she somebody who really knew what was auoin on. . ~ somebody who really knew what was auoin on. ,, ,, ., somebody who really knew what was auoin on. . ,, . , ., , ., going on. she knew what questions to ask, ma be going on. she knew what questions to ask. maybe that _ going on. she knew what questions to ask, maybe that was _ going on. she knew what questions to ask, maybe that was the _ going on. she knew what questions to ask, maybe that was the key? - going on. she knew what questions to ask, maybe that was the key? she i ask, maybe that was the key? she knew which questions to ask and she was a good listener, which king charles is too. she has handed on the batten to her son, king charles, the batten to her son, king charles, the new king and he has real challenges to deal with, and that's absolutely the case in terms of the peace process in northern ireland, reconciliation, anglo—irish relations. what is your impression of how prince charles will deal with that challenge in the months and years ahead? t’m that challenge in the months and years ahead?— years ahead? i'm sure very well because he _ years ahead? i'm sure very well because he is _ years ahead? i'm sure very well because he is across _ years ahead? i'm sure very well because he is across the - years ahead? i'm sure very well because he is across the detaill years ahead? i'm sure very well. because he is across the detail and he cares a lot about it. but it is a difficult moment, which in a sense of the respect shown at the courtesy shown to the queen in her death and also to the new king, northern ireland actually the individuals in northern ireland are very respectful and courteous about their traditions, so that's what this visit has been about. but he is taking the throne at a time when the politics is in a really bad state and the peace process has stalled, relations with dublin, joint custodians of the good friday agreement with the british government, those relations are pretty bad following brexit. and he's going to find himself in the middle of all that.— middle of all that. thank you. i will come _ middle of all that. thank you. i will come back— middle of all that. thank you. i will come back to _ middle of all that. thank you. i will come back to you - middle of all that. thank you. i will come back to you in - middle of all that. thank you. i will come back to you in a - middle of all that. thank you. i - will come back to you in a moment. i just want to pause because a major focal point of her first visit to northern ireland in 1953 was belfast city hall and it will provide a vantage point for the citizens of belfast as the king pass through the city shortly command holly hamilton is there for us. city hall is probably one of the most photographed buildings in belfast. it has also provided a backdrop to some of the key moments in history over the years. and for many people, those old enough to remember the arrival of king charles iii, may bring back some memories, as you mentioned earlier, when her majesty the queen came to visit belfast. and even then the spectators lined the streets all the way from queen's university down to city hall. and yes, even 70 years on, let me tell you, the people of northern ireland have come out in force once again today. i'm delighted to say i'm joined by three of them i have plucked from the crowd. brenda, frankie and gary. the welcome along to all of you. brenda, i'm starting with you because we spotted you early this morning at about eight o'clock. as i said, the king hasn't arrived yet, but what made you come out at that time? t made you come out at that time? i wanted to show the king our made you come out at that time? t wanted to show the king our support and let the people know the people of northern ireland r 100% behind him in his new role. of northern ireland r 10096 behind him in his new role.— of northern ireland r 10096 behind him in his new role. frankly, i must show this picture. _ him in his new role. frankly, i must show this picture. i _ him in his new role. frankly, i must show this picture. i spotted - him in his new role. frankly, i must show this picture. i spotted this - show this picture. i spotted this very early this morning. with king charles iii, tell me what type of monarch you think he will be. t charles iii, tell me what type of monarch you think he will be. i hope he will be a — monarch you think he will be. i hope he will be a great _ monarch you think he will be. i hope he will be a great monarch _ monarch you think he will be. i hope he will be a great monarch as - monarch you think he will be. i hope he will be a great monarch as a - monarch you think he will be. i hope he will be a great monarch as a king| he will be a great monarch as a king because _ he will be a great monarch as a king because he — he will be a great monarch as a king because he has a teacher, his mother was a _ because he has a teacher, his mother was a teacher, and has learned him how to _ was a teacher, and has learned him how to do _ was a teacher, and has learned him how to do the king thing.— was a teacher, and has learned him how to do the king thing. thank you so much to — how to do the king thing. thank you so much to both _ how to do the king thing. thank you so much to both of _ how to do the king thing. thank you so much to both of you. _ how to do the king thing. thank you so much to both of you. gary, - how to do the king thing. thank you so much to both of you. gary, you i so much to both of you. gary, you have met her majesty the queen and the new king, charles iii. tell me what happened. t the new king, charles iii. tell me what happened-— the new king, charles iii. tell me what happened. i have indeed. the first occasion _ what happened. i have indeed. the first occasion to _ what happened. i have indeed. the first occasion to see _ what happened. i have indeed. the first occasion to see her— what happened. i have indeed. the first occasion to see her majesty, i first occasion to see her majesty, didn't— first occasion to see her majesty, didn't meet— first occasion to see her majesty, didn't meet her— first occasion to see her majesty, didn't meet her unfortunately, i first occasion to see her majesty, i didn't meet her unfortunately, was 2012 at— didn't meet her unfortunately, was 2012 at stormont— didn't meet her unfortunately, was 2012 at stormont when _ didn't meet her unfortunately, was 2012 at stormont when she - didn't meet her unfortunately, was. 2012 at stormont when she attended here to _ 2012 at stormont when she attended here to mark — 2012 at stormont when she attended here to mark her— 2012 at stormont when she attended here to mark herjubilee _ 2012 at stormont when she attended here to mark herjubilee that - 2012 at stormont when she attended here to mark herjubilee that year, i here to mark herjubilee that year, and lots _ here to mark herjubilee that year, and lots of— here to mark herjubilee that year, and lots of us _ here to mark herjubilee that year, and lots of us were _ here to mark herjubilee that year, and lots of us were invited - here to mark herjubilee that year, and lots of us were invited to - and lots of us were invited to stormont _ and lots of us were invited to stormont estate _ and lots of us were invited to stormont estate and - and lots of us were invited to stormont estate and we - and lots of us were invited to| stormont estate and we were and lots of us were invited to - stormont estate and we were right beside _ stormont estate and we were right beside her— stormont estate and we were right beside her when _ stormont estate and we were right beside her when she _ stormont estate and we were right beside her when she drove - stormont estate and we were right beside her when she drove past. i stormont estate and we were right i beside her when she drove past. i'm sure a _ beside her when she drove past. i'm sure a lot _ beside her when she drove past. i'm sure a lot of— beside her when she drove past. i'm sure a lot of people _ beside her when she drove past. i'm sure a lot of people watching - beside her when she drove past. i'm sure a lot of people watching will . sure a lot of people watching will remember— sure a lot of people watching will remember i _ sure a lot of people watching will remember i had _ sure a lot of people watching will remember i had a _ sure a lot of people watching will remember i had a specially- remember i had a specially commissioned _ remember i had a specially commissioned hat - remember i had a specially commissioned hat that - remember i had a specially commissioned hat that i. remember i had a specially- commissioned hat that i doffed as she passed — commissioned hat that i doffed as she passed and _ commissioned hat that i doffed as she passed and shouted, - she passed and shouted, congratulations - she passed and shouted, congratulations ma'am, i she passed and shouted, i congratulations ma'am, and she passed and shouted, - congratulations ma'am, and well done, _ congratulations ma'am, and well done. sir" — congratulations ma'am, and well done. sir" she _ congratulations ma'am, and well done, sir." she tapped _ congratulations ma'am, and well done, sir." she tapped the - congratulations ma'am, and well done, sir." she tapped the late i congratulations ma'am, and well - done, sir." she tapped the late duke on the _ done, sir." she tapped the late duke on the arm _ done, sir." she tapped the late duke on the arm and — done, sir." she tapped the late duke on the arm and they— done, sir." she tapped the late duke on the arm and they turned - done, sir." she tapped the late duke on the arm and they turned around i on the arm and they turned around and smiled — on the arm and they turned around and smiled and _ on the arm and they turned around and smiled and i— on the arm and they turned around and smiled and i have _ on the arm and they turned around and smiled and i have a _ on the arm and they turned around and smiled and i have a wonderfull and smiled and i have a wonderful memory— and smiled and i have a wonderful memory of— and smiled and i have a wonderful memory of that _ and smiled and i have a wonderful memory of that. i— and smiled and i have a wonderful memory of that.— memory of that. i know you entertained _ memory of that. i know you entertained king _ memory of that. i know you entertained king charles. i memory of that. i know you i entertained king charles. tell memory of that. i know you - entertained king charles. tell me about that. t entertained king charles. tell me about that. . . entertained king charles. tell me about that-— about that. i was honoured and privileged _ about that. i was honoured and privileged to — about that. i was honoured and privileged to be _ about that. i was honoured and privileged to be invited - about that. i was honoured and privileged to be invited to - about that. i was honoured and i privileged to be invited to perform as a comedian _ privileged to be invited to perform as a comedian for _ privileged to be invited to perform as a comedian for his _ privileged to be invited to perform as a comedian for his royal- as a comedian for his royal highness. _ as a comedian for his royal highness, now— as a comedian for his royal highness, now his - as a comedian for his royal highness, now his majestyl as a comedian for his royal- highness, now his majesty king charles— highness, now his majesty king charles in— highness, now his majesty king charles in hillsborough- highness, now his majesty king charles in hillsborough castle. i charles in hillsborough castle. indeed — charles in hillsborough castle. indeed in— charles in hillsborough castle. indeed in the _ charles in hillsborough castle. indeed in the very _ charles in hillsborough castle. indeed in the very same - charles in hillsborough castle. l indeed in the very same throne charles in hillsborough castle. - indeed in the very same throne room he has _ indeed in the very same throne room he hasjust_ indeed in the very same throne room he hasiust spoken _ indeed in the very same throne room he hasjust spoken in _ indeed in the very same throne room he hasjust spoken in the. _ indeed in the very same throne room he hasjust spoken in the. that - indeed in the very same throne room he hasjust spoken in the. that was i he hasjust spoken in the. that was a very— he hasjust spoken in the. that was a very awesome _ he hasjust spoken in the. that was a very awesome and _ he hasjust spoken in the. that was a very awesome and amazing - a very awesome and amazing experience. _ a very awesome and amazing experience, and _ a very awesome and amazing experience, and a _ a very awesome and amazing experience, and a very- a very awesome and amazing experience, and a very closel experience, and a very close encounter _ experience, and a very close encounter an _ experience, and a very close encounter-— experience, and a very close encounter. an unofficial court 'ester, i encounter. an unofficial court jester, i think— encounter. an unofficial court jester, i think it _ encounter. an unofficial court jester, i think it is _ encounter. an unofficial court jester, i think it is fair - encounter. an unofficial court jester, i think it is fair to - encounter. an unofficial court jester, i think it is fair to say! j jester, i think it is fair to say! not long to go now. the pipes are piping and now the sun is shining and the crowds are waiting for that moment in history. studio: things are about to wrap up at hillsborough castle where the king and queen consort are about to depart for the other major event in this afternoon's programme, the service of reflection at belfast cathedral. there are some formalities to take care of first, the signing of the visitor's book and declan harvey and mark devenport can talk us through it. there was discussion early about what pen would be used. clearly there are some leakages here. but you join us in the candlestick hall. and over in the corner is a bust of queen elizabeth ii is a princess. you see it in the background there by the sculptor sir william reid dick. , . ., , . ~ dick. they have left the candlestick hall now and _ dick. they have left the candlestick hall now and they _ dick. they have left the candlestick hall now and they are _ dick. they have left the candlestick hall now and they are making - dick. they have left the candlestick hall now and they are making their| hall now and they are making their way to the front of the building, through the section of the building where tony blair famously said that he felt the hand of history on his shoulder, a similar remark to the one made by king charlesjust yesterday to parliament when he talked about feeling the weight of events on his shoulders. for those waitin: events on his shoulders. for those waiting outside _ events on his shoulders. for those waiting outside hillsborough - events on his shoulders. for those| waiting outside hillsborough castle this is the last glimpse perhaps they will get today of the new king and queen consort, they won't make it into belfast city centre as quickly as the monarch will. in fact, the entire royal hillsborough village has been locked down for the past few days. the way of getting here is through free shuttle buses. somebody speaking to us outside earlier said they deeply wanted to be in london over the next few days but the availability and price of flights and hotels was prohibitive and they were slightly intimidated by the cues that are expected for the queen's lying—in—state in westminster. thisjust the queen's lying—in—state in westminster. this just a the queen's lying—in—state in westminster. thisjust a glimpse next to the candlestick hall, next to the state entrance were a number of photographs of the queen have been laid out. they show her at the giants causeway and also enniskillen backin giants causeway and also enniskillen back in 2012, the black and white image amongst them on her first visit as monarch in 1953. no doubt, as they hear the cars coming to life in the forecourt of hillsborough castle, the crowds outside will know exactly what is coming. ads, castle, the crowds outside will know exactly what is coming. b. bit castle, the crowds outside will know exactly what is coming.— exactly what is coming. a bit of excitement _ exactly what is coming. a bit of excitement for _ exactly what is coming. a bit of excitement for those _ exactly what is coming. a bit of excitement for those waiting, i exactly what is coming. a bit of - excitement for those waiting, there will be some hardy souls there who have been standing around for a long time. as you were saying earlier on, the earliest from 5am this morning. there were some who told me they are planning to get on a plane and go across to london and do it all over again. across to london and do it all over aaain. ., . , across to london and do it all over aaain. ., , , ., , again. nine hours they have been waitin: again. nine hours they have been waiting outside _ again. nine hours they have been waiting outside hillsborough - again. nine hours they have been i waiting outside hillsborough castle. king charles and camilla are the queen consort step through the state entrance. laura mccurry, the head of hillsborough castle and gawn rowan hamilton, the lieutenant of county down bid farewell to them. they take up down bid farewell to them. they take up their places in the rear of the royal car. peter hain and margaret o'callaghan are with me. —— laura mccorry. you must have welcomed a lot of people and said goodbye to a lot of people and said goodbye to a lot of people on those very steps, peter. . ~ ., , , peter. indeed, including her ma'esty the queen. they i peter. indeed, including her ma'esty the queen. they are i peter. indeed, including her ma'esty the queen. they are driving h peter. indeed, including her majesty the queen. they are driving out - peter. indeed, including her majesty| the queen. they are driving out now. what is interesting about hillsborough castle, it doesn't have ramparts or turrets or anything like that, it is a stately home, essentially, but it's right in the middle of hillsborough village, so they will go out down hillsborough high street which is a kind of picture postcard little town and then be off. the villagers always give you a great welcome if you wander down the street with your protection officers in tow as secretary of state, or at least i did. you get a great welcome from people. tl did. you get a great welcome from --eole. . . did. you get a great welcome from neale, ., , ., did. you get a great welcome from --eole. ., , did. you get a great welcome from n-eole. ., , ,, people. it was of course bought by the government _ people. it was of course bought by the government of— people. it was of course bought by the government of northern - people. it was of course bought by| the government of northern ireland for the _ the government of northern ireland for the governor in the early 1920s. but now— for the governor in the early 1920s. but now we — for the governor in the early 1920s. but now we people coming out. the covernor but now we people coming out. the governor at — but now we people coming out. tte: governor at the time was married to the queen's aren't, so she was a frequent visitor. we can see there the royal motorcade making its way down main street. lots of people have stayed during the visit to get a second glimpse of the king —— aunt. t a second glimpse of the king -- aunt. , , a second glimpse of the king -- aunt. , ..,, aunt. i suppose the connections between the — aunt. i suppose the connections between the british _ aunt. i suppose the connections between the british aristocracy, j aunt. i suppose the connections - between the british aristocracy, the royal— between the british aristocracy, the royal family and a lot of these houses — royal family and a lot of these houses of— royal family and a lot of these houses of ulster are quite interesting.— houses of ulster are quite interesting.- this - houses of ulster are quite interesting.- this is, l houses of ulster are quite | interesting.- this is, if houses of ulster are quite interesting. yes. this is, if you like, a vignette _ interesting. yes. this is, if you like, a vignette of _ interesting. yes. this is, if you like, a vignette of the - interesting. tag this is, if you like, a vignette of the network of connections. like, a vignette of the network of connections-— like, a vignette of the network of connections. ., , ., ., ., connections. you could see a lot of those connections _ connections. you could see a lot of those connections in _ connections. you could see a lot of those connections in the _ connections. you could see a lot of those connections in the room - connections. you could see a lot of those connections in the room at i connections. you could see a lot of i those connections in the room at the meeting today. individuals with all sorts of royal connections. tl is meeting today. individuals with all sorts of royal connections.- sorts of royal connections. it is a kind of hidden _ sorts of royal connections. it is a kind of hidden history. _ sorts of royal connections. it is a kind of hidden history. there - sorts of royal connections. it is a kind of hidden history. there is i sorts of royal connections. it is a j kind of hidden history. there is a lot of history _ kind of hidden history. there is a lot of history and _ kind of hidden history. there is a lot of history and a _ kind of hidden history. there is a lot of history and a lot _ kind of hidden history. there is a lot of history and a lot of- lot of history and a lot of decorative art there. it is also, interestingly, when you stay at it, it is quite homely over christmas. it is comfortable. tl is it is comfortable. it is comfortable, - it is comfortable. it is comfortable, you - it is comfortable. it is| comfortable, you have it is comfortable. it is - comfortable, you have your it is comfortable. tt 3 comfortable, you have your family comfortable, you have yourfamily tradition, they come and join you. that is a lovely high shot of the village of hillsborough as the motorcade makes its way from hillsborough castle. the king of course now on his way to belfast cathedral, saint dan's cathedral, as it is known in the city, for a service of reflection on the life of queen elizabeth ii —— st anne's cathedral. on the way the king and queen consort will pass belfast city hall. we heard from holly hamilton a few moments ago there. lots of people have gathered. the king isn't stopping but he will drive past and obviously people are there and want to pay their respects to him. we will pick up those pictures as the king and his motorcade arrived in belfast. but as sovereign, the queen was defender of the faith and supreme governor of the church of england. indeed, faith and respect for the faith of others was a matter of great importance to her. injune 2012 she visited enniskillen in northern ireland, following a meeting in the anglican cathedral there with survivors of the 1987 remembrance day bombing in the town. the queen crossed the street and entered saint michael's church. it was the first time the queen had set footin was the first time the queen had set foot in a catholic church in northern ireland. two clergymen involved in the historic moment and reflect on the significance of that act. there are certain things the queen does every day, every year, then there are certain things she does only once, and this was one of the things she did only once. i certainly felt it was a tremendous acknowledgement because, you know, kenny and i took a bit of a risk in doing what we did. tl kenny and i took a bit of a risk in doing what we did.— doing what we did. it was a step into the unknown, _ doing what we did. it was a step into the unknown, and - doing what we did. it was a step into the unknown, and i- doing what we did. it was a step| into the unknown, and i suppose there _ into the unknown, and i suppose there was— into the unknown, and i suppose there was a _ into the unknown, and i suppose there was a degree of fear of how community would react to somebody who would _ community would react to somebody who would be deemed as the protestant faith going to their own catholic— protestant faith going to their own catholic faith.— protestant faith going to their own catholic faith. here it was an event where the queen _ catholic faith. here it was an event where the queen of— catholic faith. here it was an event where the queen of england - catholic faith. here it was an event where the queen of england was i where the queen of england was coming into a roman catholic church. it was a big deal in lots of different respects. everyone is stronu different respects. everyone is stron: in different respects. everyone is strong in themselves, - different respects. everyone is strong in themselves, within i different respects. everyone is i strong in themselves, within their own faith — strong in themselves, within their own faith in their own political views. — own faith in their own political views, whatever it would be, you are not bothered by crossing a street, mingling. — not bothered by crossing a street, mingling, showing tolerance and respect — mingling, showing tolerance and respect with each other.- mingling, showing tolerance and respect with each other. there was a moment in which _ respect with each other. there was a moment in which everybody - respect with each other. there was a moment in which everybody could i moment in which everybody could rejoice. but inevitably, you are skating along the edge of a lot of history there, and certainly that's how it felt for me. i thought she was an immensely centred person, and i thought to myself, what kind of person are you that you can do this? she is obviously a deeply spiritual lady _ she is obviously a deeply spiritual lady and — she is obviously a deeply spiritual lady. and she didn't seem to have a problem _ lady. and she didn't seem to have a problem with showing that we were one community to year —— one community— one community to year —— one community here under god. she certainl community here under god. 5te: certainly served us here that day. we are not trying to erase the past, we can't _ we are not trying to erase the past, we can't do — we are not trying to erase the past, we can't do that. it was a royal seal— we can't do that. it was a royal seal of— we can't do that. it was a royal seal of approval she gave us for working — working together under the legacy will live on. ~ working together under the legacy will live on-_ will live on. well, 'oining me now in the studio — will live on. well, 'oining me now in the studio is _ will live on. well, joining me now in the studio is father— will live on. well, joining me now in the studio is father brian - in the studio is father brian d'arcy, priest, writer and broadcaster. and the recipient of an obe for his work in building cross community relations in northern ireland, alongside him, the very reverend john mann, a former dean of belfast. welcome to both of you. lovely to have you here. i assume you've been watching carefully and looking forward to the service in the cathedral. it will be a sombre occasion, and rightly so, but that is a building of the congregation you know very well. filth. is a building of the congregation you know very well.— is a building of the congregation you know very well. oh, yes, the buildin: you know very well. oh, yes, the building is— you know very well. oh, yes, the building is very — you know very well. oh, yes, the building is very familiar - you know very well. oh, yes, the building is very familiar to - you know very well. oh, yes, the building is very familiar to me, i you know very well. oh, yes, the i building is very familiar to me, and indeed _ building is very familiar to me, and indeed the — building is very familiar to me, and indeed the service. i know what is about— indeed the service. i know what is about to _ indeed the service. i know what is about to happen. i think it will be very important and reflective service. _ very important and reflective service, and one that i think people will really— service, and one that i think people will really feel a part of when they are watching it.— will really feel a part of when they are watching it. we've had so many different aspects _ are watching it. we've had so many different aspects to _ are watching it. we've had so many different aspects to today's's - different aspects to today's's proceedings. father brian, we have reflected and will continue to reflected and will continue to reflect on the contribution made by her majesty during her long reign, but looking ahead to the challenges facing the new monarch, king charles. and then there has been the pure enjoyment on the faces of the people who have met the king and queen consort. bill people who have met the king and queen consort.— queen consort. all of those things are very much _ queen consort. all of those things are very much part _ queen consort. all of those things are very much part of— queen consort. all of those things are very much part of it. _ queen consort. all of those things are very much part of it. i'm - queen consort. all of those things are very much part of it. i'm still i are very much part of it. i'm still are very much part of it. i'm still a bit sad with the death of her majesty. she was a lovely person to meet, and a very religious person, a very uplifting person. i was in the congregation at enniskillen, and she whispered to me, this is the first time i've been in a catholic church in ireland. i was quite shocked about that. but she was quite delighted to be there, and it was quite significant. she didn't do it just as walking across the street, it was a little more than that. and it was a little more than that. and it did help to bring people together, it did help. i've been working in enniskillen since 1990, just immediately after the bombing, and it has been very difficult to get people to come together, but enniskillen has led the way there, and has done a lot for it. thal enniskillen has led the way there, and has done a lot for it. that was and has done a lot for it. that was a very significant _ and has done a lot for it. that was a very significant gesture - and has done a lot for it. that was a very significant gesture on - and has done a lot for it. that was a very significant gesture on her i a very significant gesture on her part, one of many we have discussed today. i wanted to talk about your relationship with the queen because i know you met her on a number of occasions, and i think you were surprised to get a phone call inviting you to lunch. during that lunch, you sat beside her and talked about her christian faith. i think she asked you for some advice? t has she asked you for some advice? i was uuite she asked you for some advice? i was quite surprised _ she asked you for some advice? i was quite surprised and _ she asked you for some advice? t —" quite surprised and shocked by it, actually. i thought someone was taking the mickey, phoning me. i got a call next day to say, it is not a joke, brian, it is the real thing. a call next day to say, it is not a joke, brian, it is the realthing. i was over there, and i knew that you knew my name and my work from listening to terry wogan. she was a big terry wogan fan, and i had been on with terry for 18 years by that stage and she knew some of the things i had said. i was with her for the entire lunch that day. it was a small lunch, the duke of edinburgh across the way, and i could hardly get a word in edgeways, i'm delighted to say. i was so honoured, and she was full of faith, full of prayer. she told me of catholic ministers and one cardinal in particular whom she was fond of and took great spiritual assistance from. she talked about reading the psalms each day, and asked about the prayer i had. she said she wanted to know about family and her christmas message, and she wanted to ensure that there was a very strong christian message in her christmas day talk to the nation. she was very much part of that.— much part of that. briefly, dean mann, much part of that. briefly, dean mann. none _ much part of that. briefly, dean mann, none of— much part of that. briefly, dean mann, none of that _ much part of that. briefly, dean mann, none of that will - much part of that. briefly, dean mann, none of that will come i much part of that. briefly, dean| mann, none of that will come as much part of that. briefly, dean i mann, none of that will come as a surprise to you. you're absolutely convinced about the importance of the queen's christian faith to her. oh, yes, her devotional life her sense _ 0h, yes, her devotional life her sense of— oh, yes, her devotional life her sense of calling, i think, are absolutely crucial. i think it was put by — absolutely crucial. i think it was put by a — absolutely crucial. i think it was put by a writer over the weekend that she — put by a writer over the weekend that she believed that she was called — that she believed that she was called by god, but she knew that she didn't~~ _ called by god, but she knew that she didn't~~ she— called by god, but she knew that she didn't... she didn't have the right, if you _ didn't... she didn't have the right, if you like. — didn't... she didn't have the right, if you like, the right to, in a sense. _ if you like, the right to, in a sense, divine responsibility. it was very important to her, but in terms of her— very important to her, but in terms of her devotional life, i think that love of— of her devotional life, i think that love of the — of her devotional life, i think that love of the book of common prayer, the beautiful prayer is that she would — the beautiful prayer is that she would have learnt as a child, and in fact, _ would have learnt as a child, and in fact. two— would have learnt as a child, and in fact, two elements of the book of common— fact, two elements of the book of common prayer will be in the service today~ _ common prayer will be in the service today a_ common prayer will be in the service today. a psalm with the wording from the book— today. a psalm with the wording from the book of— today. a psalm with the wording from the book of common prayer, and a beautiful— the book of common prayer, and a beautiful prayer, lord, let thy servant — beautiful prayer, lord, let thy servant depart in peace. it is red at funeral— servant depart in peace. it is red at funeral services and will be part of this— at funeral services and will be part of this service today.— at funeral services and will be part of this service today. thank you for aaivin us of this service today. thank you for giving us that _ of this service today. thank you for giving us that insight _ of this service today. thank you for giving us that insight into - of this service today. thank you for giving us that insight into what - of this service today. thank you for giving us that insight into what is i giving us that insight into what is to come in the service that is taking place at 3pm. thank you, both, for now. with the king still on route, there are about 20 minutes to go until the service of recollection begins at belfast cathedral. early on, we heard dean stephen ford describe some of the preparations for the service. now, for the first time, let's move inside and join our commentator, seamus mckee. commentator: belfast cathedral, people have gathered here for another 100 years to mark moments of celebration and of sorrow. the history of this great building spans the lifetime of queen elizabeth herself. the stained glass windows bear witness to the faith that sustained her, its walls carry memorials of the intervals of war and peace that marked her reign. beneath these romanesque arches, generations have come to pray and to be together, even as civil conflict raged outside in the years of northern ireland's troubles. today, it is still a place of daily worship. the nave, with its long centre aisle, was the first part of the cathedral to be open. that was on the 2nd ofjune, 1901i, the cathedral to be open. that was on the 2nd ofjune, 1906, before the island of ireland was partitioned. on the 2nd ofjune this year, formal celebrations began for queen elizabeth's platinum jubilee. shortly, herson elizabeth's platinum jubilee. shortly, her son and successor will join this congregation in reflection on the life of a mother and a monarch. it is from this island and beyond that the congregation is drawn. political leaders and those prominent in civic and sporting society, alongside representatives of community groups and charities. it's an important day for belfast, a large number of city councillors here. any moment now, we are expecting the prime minister and the irish president. the secretary of state has already taken his place. there is doug beattie, the ulster unionist leader, about to take his. as i say, there is a warm and cordial atmosphere about this building. there is the lord lieutenant, the vice lord lieutenant of belfast, i should say, welcoming guests. the service that will begin soon has a number of elements. coming from belfast, it will have its own identity, reflected especially in the music that will be heard, along with the prayers and readings. it will be solemn but not mournful. as well as reflection, this is a service of thanksgiving for the life and the reign of queen elizabeth. this, then, is the scene, as we await the arrival of the king and the queen consort. studio: the royal couple are due to arrive at belfast cathedral very shortly, and we were looking at pictures there of the interior of the building. someone who knows it very well is with me, i'm pleased to say, dean mann, the reverend john mann, who served as dean and has just retired, in fact, not from that job at from another. when you look back at it, looking so resplendent today, and you know the effort you have made to make sure that today goes smoothly by laying the foundation work a number of years ago, as you have said, you must have ago, as you have said, you must have a sense of anticipation, but you must be pleased as well? absolutely. it is a wonderful— must be pleased as well? absolutely. it is a wonderful building, _ must be pleased as well? absolutely. it is a wonderful building, and - must be pleased as well? absolutely. it is a wonderful building, and it - it is a wonderful building, and it is wonderful for this particular ceremony. i think that what the whole _ ceremony. i think that what the whole st— ceremony. i think that what the whole st anne's cathedral team, if you like. _ whole st anne's cathedral team, if you like, will be attempting to achieve. — you like, will be attempting to achieve, is something that brings a sense _ achieve, is something that brings a sense of— achieve, is something that brings a sense of worship, a sense of solemnity, yes, but celebration and commemoration together, and to get that mix _ commemoration together, and to get that mix right, i think, is key to this. _ that mix right, i think, is key to this. that — that mix right, i think, is key to this, that people can feel that they can put— this, that people can feel that they can put their own reflection into what _ can put their own reflection into what is — can put their own reflection into what is happening. their own memories, their own thoughts, and their own _ memories, their own thoughts, and their own prayers. we memories, their own thoughts, and their own prayers.— their own prayers. we are 'ust seeinu their own prayers. we are 'ust seeing some i their own prayers. we are 'ust seeing some vip i their own prayers. we are 'ust seeing some vip arrivals h their own prayers. we are just seeing some vip arrivals at i their own prayers. we are just| seeing some vip arrivals at the front of the building. there is liz truss, the prime minister, just being accompanied into the cathedral. we know it was announced last week that liz truss would attend various services of reflection with the king and queen consort across the united kingdom. today, she is in belfast. she is just coming in the west door i think. , , , just coming in the west door i think-_ the - just coming in the west door i think._ the main - just coming in the west door i - think._ the main entrance think. yes, yes. the main entrance into st anne's _ think. yes, yes. the main entrance into st anne's cathedral, _ think. yes, yes. the main entrance| into st anne's cathedral, welcomed by the lord lieutenant of belfast. 0f by the lord lieutenant of belfast. of course, the big doors are glass, so people — of course, the big doors are glass, so people in— of course, the big doors are glass, so people in the square will be able to see _ so people in the square will be able to see right into the cathedral, be able to— to see right into the cathedral, be able to see — to see right into the cathedral, be able to see what is happening. and the are able to see what is happening. fich they are enormous. able to see what is happening. and they are enormous. they _ able to see what is happening. and they are enormous. they are. - able to see what is happening. and | they are enormous. they are. there are larie they are enormous. they are. there are large doors _ they are enormous. they are. there are large doors that _ they are enormous. they are. there are large doors that close _ they are enormous. they are. there are large doors that close over - they are enormous. they are. there| are large doors that close over them at night. _ are large doors that close over them at night, but the glass doors are there _ at night, but the glass doors are there during the day.— at night, but the glass doors are there during the day. bishop george davidson, there during the day. bishop george davidson. iust _ there during the day. bishop george davidson, just speaking _ there during the day. bishop george davidson, just speaking to _ there during the day. bishop george davidson, just speaking to her- davidson, just speaking to her there. i saw sir nigel hamilton, deputy lieutenant, just greeting people at the steps as well. liz truss, making her way, presumably, truss, making herway, presumably, up truss, making herway, presumably, up to the front truss, making her way, presumably, up to the front of the cathedral for the service. and we know that the king and queen consort are on their way. they will not be too far away at this stage. brian, of course, the interesting thing is that this is a service taking place in st anne's cathedral, but it is a service for more than just the congregation of that cathedral. this is a service which will have many people participating in it. it is for the people in the church, but it's also for people listening on the radio and watching on television in northern ireland and beyond. that is exactly what her majesty would want. she believed in the christian faith and indeed the dean when he was in the cathedral had a more ecumenical chapter which was quite unique, not sure if it is still there, but it was in his time, so that the services in st anne's would be far—reaching and across boundaries, as this would be. after all, prayer is prayer and the lord's prayer is a prayer we all say as christians. prayer is a prayer we all say as christians-— prayer is a prayer we all say as christians. just looking at some interesting _ christians. just looking at some interesting pictures _ christians. just looking at some interesting pictures you - christians. just looking at some interesting pictures you will - interesting pictures you will recognise some faces, michael kovrig, minister of foreign affairs, micheal martin, taoiseach, taking his seat beside the prime minister. he is the prime minister of the republic of ireland. we also saw chris eaton hill, the new secretary of state. we know that present michael d higgins is due to be at the service today as well. that is not insignificant. t the service today as well. that is not insignificant.— not insignificant. i think it is huiel not insignificant. i think it is hugely significant, - not insignificant. i think it is hugely significant, because | not insignificant. i think it is - hugely significant, because after the enniskillen event where the queen went from the anglican to the catholic church sometime later the president came up and did the journey in reverse and it was also a very significant day when he went to saint michael's first and then went to pray sent accountants. that is very important he will be there. there is the president of ireland michael d higgins stepping out of his car being greeted by bishop davidson. down on the pavement. a lot of work has gone on into the drawing up of this guestlist. t’itt drawing up of this guestlist. i'm sure it has _ drawing up of this guestlist. i'm sure it has and _ drawing up of this guestlist. i'm sure it has and no doubt the northern— sure it has and no doubt the northern ireland office had its place — northern ireland office had its place in — northern ireland office had its place in that. but yes, the whole thing. _ place in that. but yes, the whole thing. like — place in that. but yes, the whole thing, like any event, does take an awful— thing, like any event, does take an awful lot _ thing, like any event, does take an awful lot of— thing, like any event, does take an awful lot of working through. it will have — awful lot of working through. it will have been tweaked as the years have gone _ will have been tweaked as the years have gone by as well. i think there is some _ have gone by as well. i think there is some really beautiful things that are going _ is some really beautiful things that are going to be experienced. the whole _ are going to be experienced. the whole point about reconciliation has been talked a about a lot already today~ _ been talked a about a lot already today. and i know that archbishop john is— today. and i know that archbishop john is wearing his cross of nails for this— john is wearing his cross of nails for this service today and his chosen— for this service today and his chosen to _ for this service today and his chosen to wear that specifically today. — chosen to wear that specifically today, that symbol of reconciliation, it is broader than 'ust reconciliation, it is broader than just northern ireland, something that is— just northern ireland, something that is important to all people. we need _ that is important to all people. we need a _ that is important to all people. we need a reconciled world. the christian _ need a reconciled world. the christian world, _ need a reconciled world. the christian world, not - need a reconciled world. tte: christian world, notjust need a reconciled world. tte: christian world, not just the christian world, notjust the christian world, notjust the christian world, notjust the christian world, because as the king has said, he is the leader of andwell, of all faiths.- andwell, of all faiths. faith leaders will _ andwell, of all faiths. faith leaders will be _ andwell, of all faiths. faith leaders will be in _ andwell, of all faiths. faith leaders will be in the - andwell, of all faiths. faith - leaders will be in the cathedral. may be — leaders will be in the cathedral. may be the theme of reconciliation will be much to the fore in what we hear. present michael d higgins and mrs higgins being shown to their seats. these are live pictures of belfast city hall, magnificent building in the centre of the city and they are the king's motorcade is passing by. he is not stopping, but you can see a lot of people have gathered to wish him well. this is probably four or five minutes away from the cathedral itself. he will come along the m1 motorway from hillsborough and then turn into some of the smaller streets, a network of streets bringing him right into the city centre. you can see the police out rider. they are not surprisingly going at a relatively gentle speed because the king will want people to have an opportunity to glimpse him and he will want to acknowledge the fact people have taken the time to come out to pay their respects. t’itt come out to pay their respects. i'm sure he'd come out to pay their respects. t�*tt sure he'd love to get out and spend some time with them but the time isn't available. tl is some time with them but the time isn't available.— isn't available. it is quite remarkable _ isn't available. it is quite remarkable how - isn't available. it is quite remarkable how fresh i isn't available. it is quite l remarkable how fresh and isn't available. it is quite - remarkable how fresh and well isn't available. it is quite _ remarkable how fresh and well and enthusiastic he has been on each occasion— enthusiastic he has been on each occasion in— enthusiastic he has been on each occasion in the midst of his own heartbreak. i think he has done magnificently here and repeating services — magnificently here and repeating services which are quite similar over— services which are quite similar over various engagements but he has maintained _ over various engagements but he has maintained his enthusiasm and gratitude. i think it shows a great deal of— gratitude. i think it shows a great deal of courage and insight on his behalf— deal of courage and insight on his behalf in — deal of courage and insight on his behalf in the midst of his own grief — behalf in the midst of his own irief. . behalf in the midst of his own irief. , , , ., grief. president higgins installed in his seat in _ grief. president higgins installed in his seat in the _ grief. president higgins installed in his seat in the cathedral. - grief. president higgins installed in his seat in the cathedral. and | grief. president higgins installed | in his seat in the cathedral. and a very significant representation from the republic of ireland, it has to be said. i mentioned the minister for foreign affairs simon coveney is there, the taoiseach is there, micheal martin, sitting alongside the prime minister liz truss. this is an important service, and a solemn service, but there is a serious politics they will have to engage in in the weeks and months ahead, we know that, and we cannot overlook that on an occasion like this. . ., . overlook that on an occasion like this. , ., , ., this. this means nothing really if that doesn't _ this. this means nothing really if that doesn't happen _ this. this means nothing really if that doesn't happen because - this. this means nothing really if that doesn't happen because her majesty— that doesn't happen because her majesty would want that to happen. the last _ majesty would want that to happen. the last time in the st anne's cathedral— the last time in the st anne's cathedral something did come out of it when— cathedral something did come out of it when the _ cathedral something did come out of it when the politicians were asked by the _ it when the politicians were asked by the minister to get together and do something and bring us forward. and it _ do something and bring us forward. and it did _ do something and bring us forward. and it did happen. i'mjust hoping that maybe with the power of god something would come of today is's as well _ something would come of today is's as well. . , something would come of today is's as well. , , , as well. interestingly sitting in the row behind _ as well. interestingly sitting in the row behind president - as well. interestingly sitting in - the row behind president higgins, behind prime minister liz truss and micheal martin, we saw a glimpse of the head of the civil service in northern ireland to jayne brady but also the leaders of the two largest parties in northern ireland, sir jeffrey donaldson of the dup and michelle o'neill of sinn fein. we have been talking aboutjust how far people across the board have been stretching themselves. alex maskey did, michelle o'neill there meeting the prince, taking part in this service, and i understand the lord mayor, the sinn fein lord mayor of belfast and sinn fein mp for north belfast and sinn fein mp for north belfast were also involved in the service today and will greet the king when he arrives. we were saying to some of our guests earlier that was unimaginablejust a to some of our guests earlier that was unimaginable just a few years ago. tl was unimaginable 'ust a few years aio. . was unimaginable 'ust a few years aio. , ., ., , was unimaginable 'ust a few years aio. , . ., , ., was unimaginable 'ust a few years ago. it is unimaginable and it shows iolitics ago. it is unimaginable and it shows politics does — ago. it is unimaginable and it shows politics does work, _ ago. it is unimaginable and it shows politics does work, maybe - ago. it is unimaginable and it shows politics does work, maybe not - politics does work, maybe not quickly enough for the rest of us in a practical level but coming together, the first step is the most difficult step and i think that is true no matter where we are in reconciliation, the first step is the most difficult one and if somebody can make the first step and thenit somebody can make the first step and then it can be, like the queen, she wasn't able to make the first step, but by heavens she made every other step that was made and by her prayer, and she did pray that peace would come because that's one of the things she said to me that she often prayed for the people of northern ireland. and indeed in her christmas message is the queen would often speak on these themes. fiend message is the queen would often speak on these themes.— speak on these themes. and if an hini speak on these themes. and if anything increasingly - speak on these themes. and if anything increasingly in - speak on these themes. and if anything increasingly in the i speak on these themes. and if| anything increasingly in the last speak on these themes. and if - anything increasingly in the last 20 years— anything increasingly in the last 20 years or— anything increasingly in the last 20 years or so — anything increasingly in the last 20 years or so. people were hearing that and — years or so. people were hearing that and it — years or so. people were hearing that and it was very important. the queen had a _ that and it was very important. tte: queen had a great ability to grow and mature in her life, but even in herfaith. i think and mature in her life, but even in her faith. i think the awful tragedy of diana had a big effect on how the royalty, especially the queen, looked at life in a different way after that. she could see that goodness was recognised. the king's motorcade has _ goodness was recognised. the king's motorcade has been _ goodness was recognised. the king's motorcade has been making - goodness was recognised. the king's motorcade has been making its - goodness was recognised. the king's motorcade has been making its way i motorcade has been making its way through the streets of central belfast. i gather he isjust through the streets of central belfast. i gather he is just a matter of moments away from pulling up matter of moments away from pulling up at the front of st anne's cathedral. lots of people again gathered in writers' square, a large plaza just opposite st anne's cathedral. we can hear calls of "god save the king" from members of the crowd. and i think he isjust turning now into donegall street, arriving for what is his last formal engagement of the day on this visit to northern ireland. that is a service of reflection for the life of his mother, her majesty queen elizabeth ii. the king and queen consortjust elizabeth ii. the king and queen consort just leaving elizabeth ii. the king and queen consortjust leaving the car. you can hear the cheers from the assembled crowd on the other side of the street. and again, dame fionnuala jay—o'boyle, the lieutenant of the county borough of belfast greeting king charles and camilla. i made the point before, dame fionnuala is a friend of the king. also greeting the royal couple, the lord mayor of belfast christina black, the high sheriff of belfast, councillorjohn hussey and we can also see the chief executive of belfast city counciljon welsh. and interestingly, we have touched on it, the mp for north belfast in whose constituency the cathedral is, sinn fein'sjohn finucane. and again the bishop bishop davison greeting the bishop bishop davison greeting the king. and presumably he will be involved in bringing him inside shaking hands, the right reverend davison shaking hands with the queen consort. a boisterous crowd, you might say. consort. a boisterous crowd, you might say-— might say. yes. nice to see the welcome- _ might say. yes. nice to see the welcome- i _ might say. yes. nice to see the welcome. i think _ might say. yes. nice to see the welcome. i think the _ might say. yes. nice to see the welcome. i think the other - might say. yes. nice to see the i welcome. i think the other church leaders and other faith leaders will be alongside. king charles and queen consort entering through the west doors. for this service of reflection. the bishop introducing the king and queen consort to faith leaders, and king charles is understood to have requested that they be here. in his television address last friday, the king said wherever you may live in the united kingdom, whatever may be your backgrounds and beliefs, i shall endeavour to serve you with loyalty, respect and love. prayers were said for queen elizabeth in the belfast synagogue last saturday. there will be pros in future for king charles, that he be granted the wisdom of solomon who looks down on this group from a magnificent stained glass windowjust above. chinese community represented by the chinese community represented by the chinese welfare centre. a representative from the indian community centre in belfast. and also from the islamic centre. there is no mistaking the significance of this moment. charles, in his first visit to belfast as king, recognising and affirming the part played by these faith communities in this city and elsewhere in northern ireland. and now the king and queen consort introduced to church leaders, all of whom will play a prominent part in the service. the church of ireland, bishop of armagh, john mark doyle, and the catholic archbishop eamon martin. the presbyterian moderator the reverend john kirkpatrick. also being introduced to the methodist president of the reverend david nixon. and the president of the irish council of churches, the reverend andrew foster, the bishop of derry. st anne's is unusual in serving two dioceses, and down whose bishop is also about to be introduced to the new monarch. the music is provided by trumpeters from the royal irish regiment and will sound a fanfare to signal the start of the service. they have their regimental chapel in this cathedral, together with the royal irish rangers. as bishop davison is explaining to the king and queen consort some of the features of this cathedral, they stand under this great west front dedicated in its entirety as a war memorial, and indeed completed in 1927just a entirety as a war memorial, and indeed completed in 1927 just a year after the birth of queen elizabeth. as i say, the history of this cathedral spans the entire lifetime of queen elizabeth. and as the king and queen consort pause understandably for a moment in what has been a very busy day, i suspect the reception they got in hillsborough was clearly delightful for them and delighted that many people with whom they shook hands. that would have been uplifting for them. it's been an intense few days. and they make their way now to their places in this cathedral. this will be a richmond fanfare. and now, as the king and queen consort are accompanied to their seats, the choir sings george dyson's him, be strong and of good courage, inspirationalwords dyson's him, be strong and of good courage, inspirational words of music that are a poignant reminder of the first time they were heard, at queen elizabeth's coronation in 1953. music plays now, a triumphant hymn ofjoy, appropriate for a service of thanksgiving. # christ is made the sure foundation, # christ the head and corner—stone, # chosen of the lord and precious, # binding all the church in one # holy zion's help for ever # and her confidence alone # all that dedicated city # dearly loved of god on high, in exultantjubilation # pours perpetual melody # god, the one in three adoring in glad hymns externally ——eternally # to this temple, where we call thee, # come, o lord of hosts, today # with thy wonted loving—kindness # hear thy servants as they pray # and thy fullest benediction # shed within its walls always # here vouchsafe to all thy servants # what they ask of thee to gain # what they gain from thee, for ever with the blessed to retain, # and hereafter in thy glory # evermore with thee to reign # praise and honour to the father # praise and honour to the son # ever three and ever one # one in might, and one in glory, # while the eternal ages run.# brothers and sisters, we gather in this cathedral to commemorate in word and prayer her majesty queen elizabeth ii, committing her to god during these days of national mourning, while celebrating her life and work for this country, and for the commonwealth, and giving thanks for all that she has been as queen, and as such, head of state for the people of northern ireland. within this act of worship, we shall pray for all those whose lives have been touched by her majesty, whether as a part of her family circle, or more distantly, within the wide horizon of her concern. we mark with gratitude the dedication to duty that has exemplified her reign, and give thanks for her presence under god as a pattern of all that is good and true in human life. let us pray. almighty god, father of all mercies, we commit to your loving care of our sovereign lady queen elizabeth who, for 70 years, has been to this land a wise, gracious and dutiful monarch, committed to serving you on the pattern of your son, jesus our lord. we give thanks for her faith, inspiration and guidance through changing times and occasions of both nationaljoy and public changing times and occasions of both national joy and public and changing times and occasions of both nationaljoy and public and private grief. bless herfamily and all whose love and care have supported her throughout her long reign, with comfort and strength in these days of loss and mourning. on king charles pour out, we beseech you, such an abundance of your grace that he may fulfil his calling with ever—increasing wisdom, discernment and spiritual light. we gather our thoughts and prayers together in the words in which christ taught his disciples to pray, saying... our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. give us this day our daily bread. and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. for thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory, for ever and ever. amen. studio: now, the first of two readings in the service of reflection on thanksgiving. the theme is a new beginning, and that, for king charles, is rooted in 1000 years of monarchy and christian faith. a king who has been called to serve his people. and the reader, as is customary during services such as this, is being verged, is the expression, led to the lectern where he will give the reading. the first in the service of thanksgiving. when the entire nation of israel had finished crossing over thejordan, the lord said tojoshua: "select 12 men from the people, one from each tribe, and command them 'take 12 stones from here out of the middle of thejordan, from the place where the priests' feet stood, carry them over with you, and lay them down in the place where you camp tonight'." the israelites did asjoshua commanded. they took up 12 stones out of the middle of thejordan, according to the number of the tribes of the israelites, as the lord told joshua, carried them over with them to the place where they camped, and laid them down there. the people came up out of thejordan on the tenth day of the first month, and they camped in gilgal on the east border ofjericho. those 12 stones, which they had taken out of thejordan, joshua set up in gilgal, saying to the israelites "when your children ask their parents in time to come 'what do these stones mean?�* then you shall let your children know 'israel crossed over thejordan here on dry ground.�* for the lord your god dried up the waters of thejordan for you until you crossed over, as the lord your god did to the red sea, which he dried up for us until we crossed over, so that all the peoples of the earth may know that the hand of the lord is mighty, and so that you may fear the lord your god forever." this is the word of the lord. all: thanks be to god. now, the psalm, a version by the irish born composer charles stanford. o sing unto the lord a new song: sing unto the lord, # all the whole earth. # sing unto the lord, and praise his name: # be telling of his salvation from day to day. # declare his honour unto the heathen: # and his wonders unto all people # for the lord is great, and cannot worthily be praised # he is more to be feared than all gods # as for all the gods of the heathen, # they are but idols # but it is the lord that made the heavens # glory and worship are before him # power and honour are in his sanctuary # ascribe unto the lord, 0 ye kindreds of the people # ascribe unto the lord worship and power # ascribe unto the lord the honour due unto his name # bring presents, and come into his courts # o worship the lord in the beauty of holiness: # let the whole earth stand in awe of him # glory be to the father, and to the son # and to the holy ghost. # as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be # world without end. # amen.# rejoice in the lord always. again i will say, rejoice. let your gentleness be known to everyone. the lord is near. do not worry about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to god. and the peace of god, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in christjesus. finally, beloved, whatever is true, whatever is honourable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is pleasing, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence and if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. keep on doing the things that you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, and the god of peace will be with you. this is the word of the lord. all: thanks be to god. white back now, words and music written for king's college cambridge by sir charles wood, who was born in armagh. # lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace: # according to thy word. # to thy word # for mine eyes have seen: # mine eyes have seen: # thy salvation # which thou hast prepared: # thou hast prepared: # before the face of all people # to be a light to lighten the gentiles: # and to be the glory of thy people israel # glory be to the father, and to the son: # and to the holy ghost # as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be: # world without end. # amen. # and now the act of commemoration. the reverend ruth patterson is a methodist minister. she lights a candle, and a period of silence will follow. o lord, our heavenly father, high and mighty, king of kings and lord of lords, the only ruler of princes, who from your throne beholds all who dwell upon earth, grant to us understanding of your will and thankfulness of heart for the life and reign of our most beloved queen, and to her everlasting joy and felicity, throuthesus christ our lord. amen. now the sermon will be given by the most reverend church of ireland archbishop of armagh. everybody in this cathedral will have their own image that comes to mind when the queen's mini visits here are talked about, as they have been in recent days. archbishop mark doyle has spoken of the little gems of hope queen elizabeth provided to many peacemakers on this island of ireland. in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit. for many of us in the united kingdom there were two people whose deaths we could never imagine, our own and the queen's. and i think that is one of the reasons why the death of queen elizabeth was literally felt, felt so keenly by so many people when the news broke on thursday afternoon. it was as though the nation's collective grief was gathered up in those remarkable words, " if i had wept to save tears for her it would not ease the sorrow i sustained." and if that was how those of us felt who were, in many ways, part of her adopted family through her coronation oath, how much more profound be that feeling of loss to those of the queen's blood family? those who knew her best and loved her most. your majesty, our prayers will be with you and your family for majesty, our prayers will be with you and yourfamily for a long time to come. saint paul could be a bit of a gloomy old moralist at times, and some of his injunctions contained in his letters are very far from easy to fulfil. it's pretty difficult to have no anxiety about anything. but i would dare to suggest that for the family of the late queen and for millions of others, there will be no difficulty whatsoever when it comes to mind in following saint paul's command to think on whatever is true, whatever is honourable, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, whatever it is worthy of praise. there were many other words used about the late queen during her long reign, faithfulness, care, due to fullness, love, devotion. and all of these could be employed to describe her relationship with northern ireland. and i have to say, probably with patients banging them altogether. but paying attention, especially to what she said most recently, the word which i think will be most associated with queen elizabeth and ireland, north and south, is reconciliation. it's a great new testament word, it is a great civic word, and it is a hard word. so hard in the religious sense that it goes beyond the power of humanity to achieve, and god himself had to give it to us as a gift in his son. and as a disciple ofjesus christ, queen elizabeth followed where jesus led, as women often have, in the elusive and unfinished work of reconciliation here in northern ireland. but where the master is there will a servant be also. it has always been love's way that in order to rise she stoops. so bowing of the head in respect is far more powerful than much grander gestures would have been. love lessons far more than she speaks. so a few words in an unfamiliar tongue and a judicious sentence or two of heartfelt regret and wisdom said far more than a ceaseless vulnerability. love never rushes anything for fear of overwhelming the beloved but when the moment was right she walked a few steps between two houses of prayer in enniskillen alongside the beloved, with encouragement and affection. and although love is easily injured she keeps no record of wrongs and extends the open hand of wrongs and extends the open hand of sincerity and friendship with courage to create an environment and an atmosphere where reconciliation have a chance. love neverfails. where the master is there will the servant be also. reconciliation is about the restoration of broken relationships. and the word should never be cheapened by pretending it is an easy thing to achieve. and by and large, in the work of reconciliation, most of our victories are achieved quietly and in private, and most of our humiliations will be in public. reconciliation requires the greatest of all religious virtues, love. and it requires the greatest of all civic virtues, courage. but as the great apostle of reconciliation says, what you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, do. may the god of peace be with you. and who can doubt that the holy spirit of the god of peace was present in the mind and in the heart of the late queen? when she spoke herjudicious and generous words and walked the hard road of reconciliation in this province and on that island. the queen's vocation as a christian monarch, to work for the good of all her people, went far beyond the boundaries of these islands and we have much to learn from it. it is christian to be tolerant, not because we believe so little about god but because of the nature of the god we believe in. and because we believe so much in the importance of a free response to god's call. so firmly rooted in her christian faith, the queen was therefore firm in her belief that it is no part of a christian's vocation to belittle another person's faith, or lack of it. it is only an impression, but it did seem to me that in the last years of her reign, the tone and the content of the queen's broadcasts became slightly more overtly religious, and perhaps a little more personal. on christmas day only four or five years ago she said this, "although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves, from our recklessness and greed. so god sent into the world a unique person, neither a philosopher nor a general, important as they are, the saviour, with the power to forgive. forgiveness lies at the heart of the christian faith, it can heal broken families, can restore friendships and it can reconcile divided communities. " and she went on to say, "and it is in forgiveness that we feel the power of god's love." at her baptism, elizabeth alexandra mary was signed on her forehead with the sign of sacrifice, the cross. and for 96 years in a life which was a prodigy of steady endeavour, she offered herself, her soul and body, as a living sacrifice to god, who loves her with an everlasting love. i want to finish by reminding us of those final words spoken by mr valiant for truth in bunyan's pilgrim's progress, some of which the queen used in our very first television broadcast in 1957. he said, i am going to my father's, and though with great difficulty, i am god hither, and nowi though with great difficulty, i am god hither, and now i do not repent me of all the trouble i have been to arrive where i am. my sword i give to him who will succeed me in my pilgrimage, and my courage and skill to him that can get it. my marks and scars carry with me that i have thought his battles, he will now be my reward. and on the day that he must go hence, many accompanied him to the riverside, into which as he went, he said, death, where is thy sting? as he went down deeper, he said, grave, where is thy victory? and so, he passed over and the trumpets sounded for her on the other side. trumpets sounded for her on the otherside. now, to trumpets sounded for her on the other side. now, to the king of ages, immortal, invisible, the only true god, be ascribed all majesty, dominion and power, as is most justly due. god save the king! god save the king- _ justly due. god save the king! god save the king. commentator: i save the king. commentator: archbishop _ save the king. commentator: archbishop jon _ save the king. commentator: archbishop jon doyle _ save the king. commentator: archbishop jon doyle speaking l save the king. commentator: l archbishop jon doyle speaking in archbishopjon doyle speaking in that striking phrase of the queen's vocation as a christian monarch. now the choir sing the anthem, and luminous music, with words deeply significant for prince charles. # they are all gone into # the world of light! # and i alone sit ling'ring here _ # i see them walking # in an air of glory, whose light doth trample on my days # my days, which are at best but dull and hoary # mere glimmering and decays # dear, beauteous death! # the jewel of the just, # shining nowhere, but in the dark # could man outlook that mark # and into glory peep # either disperse these mists, which blot and fill # my perspective still as they pass # or else remove me hence unto that hill, # where i shall need no glass.# let us pray. gracious father, hear our prayer for all whose lives have been an inspiration and example to others of devotion and faith. most especially we thank you, today, for the life and work of queen elizabeth. receive her in your mercy into your nearer presence, grant her your forgiveness, perfect her in love and may your light perpetual shine upon her. grant that all that was true and honourable, compassionate and merciful in her life and witness to your son, jesus christ, grow in the hearts of all who have shared her life here, and look forward to a joyful reunion in the heavenly places, through christ our lord. amen. generous lord god, we give you thanks this day for the dedication to service and duty shown by the members of the royal family, following after the example set by queen elizabeth. at this time, may each draw strength from one another, from the long life of the queen, and from their faith in god, that by personal example and the courage to serve, they may live for the wellbeing of this nation, and for greater understanding in the world, in the name of the prince of peace, even jesus christ our lord. amen. god of all holiness and giver of life, protect and guide, we beseech you, all who seek in these days, through prayer, thought and action, to fulfil their work in sustaining the life of this city and land. may all whose responsibilities bridge gulfs of understanding, of cultural or religious difference or across divides of age, race, gender or politics come to know the central human need for love, security, justice and peace. maintain within all our institutions a unity of spirit which transcends difference, a oneness of purpose in mutual support for the good of all. this we pray in the spirit of he who bids us be one, our lord and saviour, jesus christ. amen. lord god, whose power is infinite and love everlasting, grant to your servant charles your merciful goodness. bless and comfort him in his sorrow. daily restore him in strength to meet the demands of his high calling. fulfil in him your providential will and may the indwelling spirit of your son, jesus christ, bring him peace of heart and courage to declare and do what is right. to his family, in your great compassion, shed your heavenly succour and may they all know your presence daily, as they turn their hearts to you and to your son, who for us all is the bread of life and the gateway to heaven, and in whose name we pray. amen. commentator: the reverend david dickson's prayer for support very much a theme in the service. now a great irish him, powerful words to a familiar air. # o christ the same, through all our story's pages # our loves and hopes, our failures and our fears # eternal lord, the king of all the ages, # unchanging still, amid the passing years # 0 living word, the source of all creation, # who spread the skies, and set the stars ablaze, # o christ the same, who wrought our whole salvation, # we bring our thanks to you for all our yesterdays. # o christ the same, the friend of sinners sharing # our inmost thoughts, the secrets none can hide, # still as of old upon your body bearing # the marks of love, in triumph glorified # 0 son of man, who stooped for us from heaven, # 0 prince of life, in all your saving power, # o christ the same, to whom our hearts are given, # we bring our thanks to you for this the present hour # o christ the same, secure within whose keeping # our lives and loves, our days and years remain, # our work and rest, our waking and our sleeping, # our calm and storm, our pleasure and our pain # o lord of love, for all ourjoys and sorrows, # for all our hopes, when earth shall fade and flee, # o christ the same, beyond our brief tomorrows, # we bring our thanks to you for all that is to be.# this will be the first time god save the king has been sung in the st anne's cathedral for 70 years. # god save our gracious king, # long live our noble king, # god save the king. # send him victorious, # happy and glorious, # long to reign over us; # god save the king. # thy choicest gifts in store # on him be pleased to pour, # long may he reign. # may he defend our laws, # and ever give us cause, # to sing with heart and voice, # god save the king. # and at the last, as if to affirm this congregation in its coming here to unite in sorrow, but also in praise and thanksgiving, the church leaders will give a shared celtic blessing. deep peace of the running wave to you deep peace of the flowing air to you deep peace of the quiet earth to you — deep peace of the shining stars to you deep peace of the son of peace to you and the blessing of god almighty, the father, the son and the holy spirit be with you and remain with you always. amen. prelude in e—flat major, bwv 552 "st anne", js bach (1685—1750) and so ends this service of thanksgiving and reflection, as the choir will begin to move towards the west door. this is the sound of eoin millar magnificent saint and prayed. caer is supplemented by young singers from the northern ireland opera chorus programme conducted by philip bolton. the organist is jack wilson. he is from here but is a graduate organ scholar at ely cathedral. —— the choir is supplemented. what will people take away from this service? one thing that comes naturally to people here when they meet someone else who has been bereaved, sorry for your loss, they say. sometimes they don't know what more they can say. that was the point of the sign of the act of commemoration in the service, when we think of the words of the prayer read by the methodist president david nixon about king charles, bless and comfort him in his sorrow, and his family, in your great compassion. so there was condolence and support for someone who has suffered the loss of his mother, indeed, both parents in a relatively short space of time. there was archbishop'sjohn mcdonnell�*s sermon with the king and queen consortjust a few mcdonnell�*s sermon with the king and queen consort just a few feet away. and the archbishop looking at charles and addressing that loss directly. and you could see in the king's expression in his appreciation. there was also a striking phrase in that sermon, the queen's vocation as a christian monarch, the archbishop was talking about her work for reconciliation. it was a sharp insight into what motivated the queen, a religious sense of duty. not surprising in someone who was known to have regarded the anointing during her coronation as the pinnacle of the ceremony. archbishop mark doyle also pointed to the role of the queen as a woman in what he called the elusive and unfinished work of reconciliation here in ireland. which brings to mind the words of former president mary mcaleese who hosted the queen on her state visit to ireland in 2011. she said, "let us hope the legacy in which the queen invested so much will be honoured and realised." there we can see pictures of king charles shaking hands with and talking warmly to the president of ireland michael d higgins and his wife sabina. and camilla queen consort engaged in animated conversation with the president. and again and embrace between queen consort and the president's wife. and the king and queen consort moving now through the nave to the great west door is of the cathedral, and the king acknowledging the good wishes of members of the congregation. a service which was at one end of the same time sombre, yet joyful, deliberately and very obviously multi—denominational. we had that multi—denominational blessing from the church leaders at the end, two archbishops of armagh, taking part and a blessing from the church of ireland archbishop in irish. and the king now talking to church leaders as he prepares to make his way down the steps. and he may, we think, speak to members of the public gathered in writers squared just opposite. the sun is shining and the king is still engaged in conversation with some of those church leaders, the archbishop there, who conducted the service, just bidding farewell to the king and queen consort. they are due to leave, of course, for london. they will travel to george best belfast city airport where they will board an aircraft for london. george davisonjust said his an aircraft for london. george davison just said his final farewells. they have come off the pavement onto the street. their cars are there. they are making their way across to writers squared and just acknowledging the crowds —— writer square. i'm in the studio. we don't have a lot of time in our coverage but quickly a sentence from the two of you in we have seen in terms of the significance of this. the vocation. — the significance of this. tte: vocation, reconciliation, bringing people together. it is obvious that is what we should doing in word and action. ., ,,., , ,, action. the two lessons, the young man connected _ action. the two lessons, the young man connected to _ action. the two lessons, the young man connected to the _ action. the two lessons, the young man connected to the duke - action. the two lessons, the young man connected to the duke of- man connected to the duke of edinburgh award scheme, and alex maskey— edinburgh award scheme, and alex maskey who comes from a traditional irish republican background, and the two of— irish republican background, and the two of them together like that is very striking. | two of them together 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of- visit. i think it is fair to say after many years of civic i visit. i think it is fair to say - after many years of civic suffering and pain there is peace, although it was peace that came slow, a piece in which the queen herself played a not insignificant role. that is really the theme of today.— insignificant role. that is really the theme of today. that is really the theme of today. that is really the theme- _ the theme of today. that is really the theme. her— the theme of today. that is really the theme. her majesty - the theme of today. that is really the theme. her majesty left - the theme of today. that is really the theme. her majesty left an i the theme. her majesty left an example and she did her bit for the world and she has passed it onto king charles and it is up to all of us to work and lead by the example she has given. work for peace and bring ireland forward, bring northern ireland to its proper place. thank you all very much indeed for being with us today. this indeed for being with us today. as the king continues his walkabout, our coverage of today's historic events in northern ireland draws to a close. immediately following this programme on bbc one sophie raworth will continue our coverage as her majesty the queen's coffin leaves st john's cathedral in edinburgh and travels back to buckingham palace in london. there has been a great deal of talk today about grace and peacemaking, and building on the legacy of what has gone before. we have been given much food for thought. it has certainly been a day the people of this place in particular are unlikely to forget for a very long time to come. music: an irish rhapsody by the londonderry air good afternoon and welcome to our special programme as the queen's finaljourney to london begins. her coffin will leave edinburgh shortly

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