Ahead. U. S. Officials are analyzing a video showing the largest known alqaeda gathering in yemen. This is all about flexing and showing the world we are aqap with. I dont think this increases our concern. Our concern of high. We called on russia to be part of the solution to stop destabilizing ukraine. We have not done enough to assist ukraine. Its almost disgraceful how little we have done. Each time russia takes these kinds of steps that are designed to destabilize ukraine, there are going to be consequences. 31,000 americas either get murdered or commit suicide with illegal guns. Only civilized country in the world that has this problem. As a mother, i am afraid is someone is going to take my children away. This is a battle for the hearts and minds of america. We begin with a very disturbing video from alqaedas most dangerous affiliate and new threats to attack the american homeland. The first video that and on hardcore islamic web sites is believed to have been from march and shows an open meeting from 100 or more fighters in yemen, a country that has seen a number of u. S. Drone attacks. Among present, believed to be the number 2 in alqaeda, nasar al space wahishi. He told those assembled to remember they are always fighting the biggest enemy adding we have to remove the cross and the bearer of the cross, america. At the state department wednesday, spokesman marie harf told the u. S. Is well aware of the attack . We have been be concerned about them, as i said, since 2009. I dont think this increases our concern. Our concern was already incredibly high. For more, i am joined from washington, d. C. By Brigadier General mark kimmett andas assistant secretary of affairs for middle east policy. How seriously should we take that threat as he said, to remove the bearer of the cross . Well, i think we should take it very seriously. This is first in a long time that we have actually heard alqaeda focus on the United States as the enemy, not simply the near enemy of the secular governments inside the middle east. Al wahishi has quite a terror resume. He was personal aid to 0 sam a bin laden, fought for years with him, at tora bora, jamed in yemen after 911, escaped prindz was one of the founders of the alqaeda in the air rabian peninsula. 2013 and 2012 u. S. Drone strikes killed three leaders all considered to be the number 2 in the organization like he is. Shouldnt what is he doing . Why is he willing to appear in way . Also i think there are two things going on. Number 1, et cetera trying to coalesce all of the alqaeda affiliates that have broken apart since alqaeda core in pakistan has been disrupted but i also believe that he doesnt think that we are watching him as much as we used to. The fact is, they are practicing much better Communication Security than they used to, courtesy of the revelation of the snowden leaks. They understand how we listen to them and how we find them. I think he is just practicing muc concealment and commune indication security. He is a little more brazen because he doesnt think et cetera being watched. We hear about the supposed fear all of these terrorists have about american drones. Clearly we must have had no idea this was going on because we there. I dont know the actual facts or the circumstances, whether we knew and we were watching him or just didnt know. But the fact remains f they are practicing Communication Security, the drones arent going to help because the drones can only be sent when you have a general idea of where the group or the individuals are. A drone is like looking from the sky through a soda straw at a piece of ground. If you dont have a general idea of where they are found by picking up intercepts through cell phones and radios, if you dont have those intercepts or radios to guide you to the proximate location, the drones arent going to help. But could the pullback in drone attacks have emboldened these guys . I think thats one line and presenting. I just dont have any facts to back that up. We vint seen videos like this from alqaeda since Osama Bin Laden was running Training Camps in yemen. What kind of message do you think these guys are sending by having this many alqaeda this . As we talked about earlier, since the destruction or the desmedication as the administration said of pakistan and afghanistan, the major concern the u. S. Has had has been against these affiliates, against these franchises. In the islamic peninsula, alqaeda in the lavant, alqaeda in iraq, alqaeda in the arabian peninsula, but what it would appear that he is trying to do is bring these tribes, these franchises together into one centralized organization again answering to him in the field and al zwhari in pakistan. Would be a threat not only to the nations in the region, to the rulers in the region but also as he, himself, has said, states. As you bring up all of those differentaffiliates, that raises the question. He is said to be developing a longterm plan and apparently focusing on syria as a base to strike the west and, you know, we have talked in the past about how alqaeda now is holding more territory ever as you said from yemen to somalia to libya and now, of course, syria especially in the north and eastern parts of the country where is apparently, you know, holding that part of the country and really dominating it. Is that where we need to focus the most . Yemen . Well, its clear that these outliers in yemen and elsewhere are gaining support from whats going on inside of syria. I would also add to your list, the sankary they are finding in western iraq as well. Area between western iraq and syria, the area that isis, the Islamic State of alsham is claiming as their sharoning wary, its the petri dish thats creating this bacteria thats infecting the region. Fighters are coming out of there. Central command and control is coming out of there. Came abilities are coming out of there. Its going to yemen, lebanon and all around the region. Amend these guys, at a time alqaeda in the arabian penningpenninghas tried to launch attacks recently. They vint succeeded. We saw this video. Here is a list of the recent ones. We saw in this video some of the faces were blurred out. We know that they have a very creative bomber in yemen, ibrahim al siri. One of the concerns that maybe some of these guys who are western heers who are helping them out . It certainly could be. There has been a clear record of foreigners coming any to join this fight in Northern Syria against at a time assad regime and the fight against hezbollah and the fight against the shia inside of iraq. There is this centrifugal force where these fighters coming from around the world because they know that this is where the action is. Its frightening to see all of those alqaeda people all together in one place and seemingly trying to say send some message to the United States. Brigadier general mark kimmett, good to have you on the show to talk about this. Turning to the crisis in ukraine where what the government called an antiterrorist organization by ukrainian troops in the eastern part of the country has resulted in a trail of demoralized fighters meant to show strength against prorussian forces but some ended up defecting to the russian side and putting russias flag on what used to be ukraine i cant believe combat vehicles. Others dismantled their weapons when faced by prorussian protesters. Prorussian insurgents have captured police stations and government buildings in at least nine cities. A concerned nato announced it is deploying moreorces in Eastern Europe to apply more pressure on mosqcow in advance of talks between the penal union, the u. S. And ukraine and russia that are set for thursday in geneva. Expectations, though, are low and president obama is threatening tougher sanctions. What i have said consistently each time russian takes these kind of steps that are designed to destabilize ukraine and violate their sovereignty there are going to be consequences. What you have seen is the russian economy weaker, capital fleeing out of russia. You know, mr. Putins decisions are not just bad for ukraine. Over the longterm, they are going to be bad for russia. For more, i am joined from washington, d. C. By acbassador kirk volker, executive director of the Mccain Institute for International Leadership at Arizona State university. Its always good to have you on the show . Thank you for having me. This seemed to be a spectacularly bad outcome from ukraine and its attempts to control things in the east. With Vladimir Putin talking about the danger of civil war, is there much help for the xlom attic talks . Not at all the. The talks for russia are a smoke screen for what they are trying to achieve on the ground. Until the russians feel that there is serious pushback thats going to affect russian interests and that they need to get out of this, there is nothing for them to negotiate. They are happy making the changes on the ground and using these talks as a smoke screen. It does seem that we are on different planets. We talk about not being on the same page. Putin has called for the u. N. To condemn the use of force by ukraine in the east within its own country. You have proshanelle people taking control of armored personnel carriers and putting them in a citys main square there. I can only imagine what putin would do if the same happened in russia. People of a russian heritage are a significant minority in that part of the country. How much of this do you see as a you know, as an effort by russia, to destabilize a government they see as having taken over illegitimately . Thats all this is. None of this would be happening if russia had not chosen to infiltrate special forces ukrai ukraine, foment unrest and try to break away these territories. None of this would happen otherwise. There was a recent poll that arrived at 74 of it ethnic russians who are part of ukraine, ukrainian citizens, did not feel any threat to their wellbeing based upon their russian identity. This is all manufactured. The issue here, though, is very tricky because the Ukrainian Government has a right to exercise control room, security in its own country. Russia has no right to dictate the terms by which another country governs itself. We flipped this on its head where ukraines effort to concentrate stability in its own country is controversial and russias efforts to assert some kind of control on ukraine are treated in some way as legitimate. Reversed. What about natos need to add forces on land and sea in Eastern Europe . Do you see that as worthwhile . I do. I think its worthwhile but we are talking about two different things. One is natos effort to guaranty the security of nato members that are living in that part of the world. The baltic states, roman yes, po rand and so on. Thats absolutely. We have a treaty commitment to have make that defense guarantee and putting together forces to do that is essential. Thats one step. The second step is whether we can exert influence on events in nonnato countries such as ukraine today or perhaps georgia and we will go over elsewhere in the future. Thats much more complicated because it takes a consensus of nato members to agree that it would take certain steps. Thus far, nato is very, very reluctant to rise to a confrontation with russia. Said, i think the essential next steps for nato are indeed to try to provide some kind of support, both equipment and advisors and trainers to the Ukrainian Government so they can better withstand this infiltration and assault that today. I know senator mccain has argued for some military support of ukraine and here is something that president obama said in an interview with cbs. They are not interested in any kind of military confrontation with us understanding that our conventional forces are significantly superior to the russians. We dont need a war. What we do need is a recog in addition that countries like ukraine can have relationships neighbors. Statement . Well, the very first thing that the president said is that russia is not interested in a conflict, militarily with the United States. I think he is right about that. But the difference here is that putin believes that such a conflict has been taken off of the table by the United States. We are not interested in pushing back on russia militarily. As a consequence, he thinks he can get away with seizing territory, fomenting unrest and everything he is doing with no risk whatsoever with coming into a confrontation with the United States and europe. Thats what makes this dangerous. There is a massive propagandaa war going on. The skraipian government on its side claimed russian commanders and art i willerry were in eastern ukraine. We vint seen hard proof of that. There were reports americans show hog Russian Rocket law firmers carried by prorussian demonstrators but the kremlin has taken it much further throughout the crisis. They are casting the new neo nazis and hostile to the russian speaking minority. They have exaggerated the minimal actions that is have been taken. What is putin trying to do . Who is winning this propaganda war inside ukraine and russia . What putin is trying to do, lets be clear, trying to bring russian populations, minorities into russia, itself, taking over territory where they live to incorporate it into russia. Second, he wants to exert dominant influence over parts of the former soviet union where there are other ethnic mine or at this in georgi, in charge, georgia, moldova, skraip. He wants to rebuild a great russia able to exert influence. Its going to advance on all of these fronts all statement and stop when he feels pushback that he cant go any further. That the what putin is about right now. In that context, it is terribly important for the United States and europe to push back and cause a reason for him to want to stop. Continue. With this terribly tense situation, i know you are pessimistic. Lets hope something does come out of these talks. Ambassador kirk volker, good to have you with us . My pleasure. Former new york city mayor, Mike Bloomberg promises a fortunate to use the gun Rights Groups tactics against it. Is ridiculous regulatory red tape Holding America back, costing the country countless jobs and billions of dollars . Our social media producer is tracking the top stories social media is giving us a rare and dark glimpse into the south korea ian ferry tragedy. Ahead. While you are watching, let us know what you think. Join the conversation on twitter at ajconsiderthis and on our facebook and google pages. Aljazeera america presents a break through Television Event borderland. Are you tellin me its ok to just open the border, and let em all run in . The teams live through the hardships that forced mira, omar and claudette into the desert. Running away is not the answer. 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The effort will be targeted at women voters, particularly mothers by a new group called every town for gun safety that combines. 2 previous bloombergbacked gun control groups. Here is part of a video thats play okay every towns website. For more, i am joined here in new york by tom doubt doughry and Senior Advisor to george pataki. That was a powerful ad. The nra spent 20 million in the last electionciling to influence things in their direction. Now, bloomberg is saying he is going to spend 50 million just this year and with the fortunate of 31,000,000,000 estimated, thats chump change for him. Can he change the debate . Its going to be very difficult. I think that the reason is because that its the ferocity of how the people who have guns, they are fervent about keeping their guns. The energy on the other side of the issue comes and goes. And it certainly is outweighed by the people, as i said, who want to hold on to their guns. This, every time this guns a national debate, 50 million is not going to change the national debate. Mayor i was thinking this is not just about keeping guns. Checks . Thats where the problem was the last time. A lot of the things that happened after newtown when you talk about the tartridges, the type of guns, it goats lost, 90 to 10 on background checks. Thats what they should focus on. We think of 50 million as a lot of money. Think of the money thats spent day in, day out in lobbying efforts across the country. Its not a lot of money. If you are going to go into texas. They talk about texas and nevada, not places i would go to talk about guns. You are not going to change 200 years of history, people who want their guns. Fifteen states include a couple of red states that you think would be tough. Is he being too ambitious. I think et cetera being overly ambitious. I think this needs to be a Grassroots Movement as he talked about but a grassroots overtime with specific places where they think they could have success. What they dont want to do is cause us versus them. Ledgelators. Thats what they are doing. Hard to get people who dont checks . What winds up happening is corner. Doesnt ultimately get things done. We saw that after newtown. I think you and me would agree after newtown, we thought this is a defining moment. Things are going to change. They ultimately dont change because people rush to their own corners. You have 215 million guns in this country already. Those legal gun owners feel like they are under attack. The problem with we live in a country where you add in the nsa, what went on with the irs, all of those type of Big Government issues, that has people more concerned. You said 9. 010. Its an overwhelming amount of americans who believe there should be more stringent background checks. Includes majorities of republicans and gun owners. No question. Thats why focus ke a lacer on that single issue. Dont talk about anything else. Talk about a common sense approach and lay out common sense reasons. Have mothers go on t. V. And say, should account we check whether or not someone, a schizophrenic, somebody on medication, how should they be legally able to get a gun . They shouldnt. Talk about common sense things and tie that into the children in and the future of our country, not taking away guns from legal gun owners. Politics on capitol hill. We saw how there were a lot of republicans who supported Immigration Reform but its an nowhere. Right. It seems like the democrats are going to do the same thing on gun control because it doesnt seem like they are willing to bring gun control to the forever or any measures. Harry reid is talking out of both sides of his mouth about whether anything is going to be brought to the floor of the senate this year thats why they have to be common sense approaches. If its too broad and encompasses too many different issues, you will lose votes on both sides of the aisle. When you have a 90 10, stick with your 90 10 and say these are the common sense measures. Its about nothing else. The other thing that doesnt help the situation, bloomberg has the money. Look. Eats done a wonder job when he was mayor of new york to see guns and crime rates drop. He is a lightning rod. Is he too devisive . You have the criticism when he tried to do nanny state things in new york like not allow big sodas. The National Conservatives have a mistrust for him. Have the moms. Have the women delivering that country. Will work better in some districts around this country. You think it will certainly be an interesting year . I think he will need to spend a lot more than 50 million to make a difference. All right. Tom dougherty, it will be interesting to see what happens with this. Thanks for having me. Now from a fight over gun rights to a discussion over how legislators and administrators who are long gone could be costing us jobs and governments across the country billions of dollars every year. Thats the claim in the new book, the rule of nobody. Saving mesh from dead laws and broken government. It lays out several cases where outdated rules and regulations have handcuffed our current leaders from using common sense to govern. Howard is the author and et cetera the founder of common good. Great to see you. Lets start with the big picture here you say that dead people are in effect running our government because they set up way too much regulation and that that is basically holding our leaders today hostage. Sure. Its secretion of law. Most of the budgets are by people long gone, new deal subsidies, thousand things workday to day are set out in millions of words of detailed regulations often written by people who are no longer with us, with many unintended consequences. But its the law. And every way in washington treats all of these laws like they are scripture, not like they are tools for the management of society. To make decisions with common sense. And you bring up all sorts of unintended consequences from big to small. You start small. The first thing you bring up is a tree that fell in a creek in new jersey. Right. It ended up flooding an area and what happened . Its just so frustrating. The tree, town fathers sent in a backhoe to pull out the tree. The lawyer said, no. Im sorry. Thats a class c 1 creek, whatever that is. It took some 12 days and 12,000 in legal fees to get the permit to do what was completely obvious, which was to pull the tree out of creek that was causing the flooding sflfrp which would have been done in movements and with very little money. On the big front, you bring out what happened with the deep water horizon, the Big Oil Spill in the gulf of mexico. All of these unintended consequences. So, there was a regulation that required in order to try to eliminate any oil spills, something called a mud gas separator, to contain anything that came back up the pipes. Well, it turns out it was designed only for a certain amount of pressure, not for the amount of pressure that it was going to get from these pipes. So, if it had had an escape clause, which the regs didnt allow, it could have spilled out and had a small spill in the gulf. Instead, it bolted it all up and caused a huge explosion and created this horrible spill that was that was literally a million times worse because the regulations had the unintended consequences of not allowing people on the spot to use their common sense and redirect the gulf. And people died. Billions of dollars in damage. You also have an example, govern cuomo in new york, it was an center . Right. Union rules ended up forcing this thing to stay open. Yeah. It cost 50 million . 50 million. Not one journal in the center and cuomo gets elected and says i know how to take 50 million. And there is a law that says you cant close a public facility that has Union Employees without at least one years notice. One of the incredible ones i thought was this bridge in new jersey that big ships need to pats under in order to get to the biggest port in the eastern United States was the newark harbor and they were trying to fort worth, texas this bridge to allow bigger ships to get through. Dollars. Yeah. It hasnt happened. Exactly. They came up with this plan to avoid building a new brimming by just raising the roadway and this 80yearold brim. It was a brilliant plan. Same foundation, same right of ray, that was in 2009 they figured that out. In the middle of 2013, they still hadnt gotten approval. The law required them to send notice to native american tribes, shawnees and others in the midwest because the law says they have to be able to participate in projects where they might have had their forebearers there. There was a lawsuit that said you had to do sur vades of Historic Building with a twomile radius even though it wasnt going to touch any Historic Buildings. You couldnt make it up. Five years later, nothing. So you have this society, not just government but society paralyzed. 20 glus is 20th in the world in ease of starting a business now because these laws have piled up. Not because they serve a useful purpose. I am for Regulatory Oversight but despite the fact that they purpose. What do you say to people that say, a lot of these regulations have helped the health and welfare of americans . Sure. I am all for environmental law. It should be more effective. One of the arguments i make is regulation could be much more effective if it were goaloriented and allowed people on the ground to actually use their judgment. It doesnt mean everybody will always use it the right way but if you give people the chance, then in most situations, they it. Not waste all of this money and losing jobs. And start new businesses and protect the environment and do all of the things that with he need to do in our society. Its it is hard to believe just how much is out there that doesnt where there is no common sense being applied. But and you end the book with a bunch of suggestions including what you call a bill of responsibilities. Is that right . A bill of rights, amending the ambitious. Yes, it is, but one of the points i make in the book is washington, itself, is so toxic and its so paralyzed that changes arent going to could come from washington. Its a fools errand to think we will persuade congress to do something. They have been powerless so long they dont have an idea they are supposed to fix the old laws. Change is going to happen because there is an outside movement and a crisis but a bill of responsibilities that would, for example, require con against to reconsider every bill with budgetary impact every 15 years. I mean we have bills on the books, sub sademployees on the books from the new deal, intentioned laws like special ed that consume nobody attended this. 25 of the total k to 12 budget. Away . Forget the children. Almost nothing for prek education. Is that the right balance . Nobody is even asking the question. We need to ask those questions all the time of all laws. And thats going to require constitutional changes. Jon stuart endorsed your book and in doing so, he said, you are, quote, an imminently reasonable advocate for common sense solutions. No wonder no one listens to him. Will this fall on deaf ears . Exactly. You know, a lot of people, a lot of people are listening. Americans today understand that the system is broken. What i try to do in this book is explain exactly how its broken and how you would need to remake it so that teachers and inspectors and the president , better. I do hope people listen, and again, the book is. The rule of nobody k . Gate to be with you. Time to see whats trending on the web. This story is really heartbreaking. Social media is giving us a unique insight into the south korea ian ferry tragedy. A Youtube Video rorment taken by a passenger on that boat as it was singing on wednesday shows people waiting to be rescued with life jackets on. According to nbc core each an news stashingsz students sent Text Messages giving us a rare glimpse into the moment these students were. Mom, i am afraid i might not be able to say it later. I love you. His mom responds why . I was wondering why you werent checking the messenger and she said me, too, son. I love you, too fortunately that student was one who was rescued according to the core ian news outlet but this Text Exchange is reportedly between a father and his 18 accuratelied daughter who is one of the nearly 300 people still believed to be missing. She says, dad, dont worry. I have a life vest on and we are huddled together. Her dad replies. I am the rescue is underway but make your way out if you can to which she says, dad, i cant walk out. The corridor is full of kids and its too tilted. In a way, technology and social media allow us more and more to know what its like to experience Something Like this. And it can be a lot to take in. 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Mo for more, we are joined by john antide at george mason university. John, always good to see you. A lot of debate about this one, about whether organic is all its cracked up to be. Lets start with the little girls video. It has close to 2 million views on youtube. Is an organic sweet potato safer because it has been chemicals . That was a great video. It is a good science experiment. I think it shows what any good scientist would tell you, which is the chemical clorphopham stops buds from agreeing, an essential components of food distribution. So, it works. What it doesnt show is that chemical. Chemical is used in the European Union where they have the precautionary principle. Its not carsinogenic. It does what its supposed to do but it doesnt cause any harm. There is an illusion that organics dont use pesticides and they are more nutrition and they are less harmful and the science just doesnt show that. But there is not a lot of rebate data on how much better organic food could be. Isnt there an agreement that that that is not pesticide free, concern . Yeah. I mean it does have lower pesticides but levels that are not harmful, the usda has talked about this extensively. We have had reports from the European Union where they use a different even more stringent standards and the pesticides that show up, you will read reports about it in the press because we have a chemophobic view of pesticides but they are not at harmful levels. Organic product, though, show about a five times greater possibility of pathogens, organics are grown in fecal material. They dont use pesticides that are as effective. They use pesticides as well. About 20 approved pesticides used in organics. They both use chemicals but there is definitely dangers from using organics with listeria and e. Coli with thousands of people getting sick and sometimes dying from it. There is a misunderstanding that somehow organics are safer because they dont use synthetic pesticides. They use pesticides and they dont use things that actually can cut some dangers down. The Washington Post and Stanford University looked at enormous amount of data to look at whether its more nutrition, whether its safer. They did not focus on whether its better for the environment or better for the animals. Lets start with milwaukee. They sort of broke it down into three cat gories. What was the finding on the milk front because we always worry about antibiotics in the mic and hormones in the mic. What was the finding there . They know antibiotics in either conventional owned organic foods. There are hormones. I think the one issue that people are concerned about is not antibiotics, per se, because the past yourization system and digestion kills it but igf one that can cause props at high levels do show up in conventionaling a greg culture. Thats one area organics supporters have focused on. That. I think most scientists would tell you its not an issue. There has been an argument that came out because of the study last year by someone supported by the organics industry, charles benbrook, university of washington, had suggested that cows fed with grass have a higher omega 3 count and so that was used as an organic to say omega 3 is an antiinflammatory so its good to yfor you. Its only in whole milwaukee. Nutritionists say you should drink skim milk. Miniscule amounts. You would have to drink 12 glasses of milk to get what you get in one ounce of salmon to give you an idea of how minimal it is. How about organic tomatoes have morevite Miles Per Hour c. These studies found there was no disks between organic and conventional produce even though organic does have the lower levels of pesticides we were talking about. They have the lower levels of pest size, levels that no one thinks are harmless if you are a soontist. If you are scared squares because you are scared of chemical. Organics show a higher level of pathogens, about 10 of organic products have bacteria found on them. About 2 of conventional for agricultural mostly because of using fecal material as themake growing mechanism. The same thing was found when tree . The same except meet showed a higher level of patho jepz for organic foods but in terms of the organins and by on theics, there was no difference. The only real issue might be the igf1. How about for small kids . Arent there some cases where some produce has some issues and children . Again, its peoples understanding of risk. Again, there is no evidence of anyone getting sick from an coinsesal foods. There is no evidence of pesticides leading to any dangers. We doe know there are people who get sick and die from patho jeps every year. So you have to weigh the various risks and factor in the costs if you are going to pay 50 more for organizeappics, is that really worth getting lower pesticides which we dont believe are harmful but getting a higher level of pathogens which women can cause illness . I think people have to weigh those things individually. A lot of interesting information there, john. I think a lot that needs to be studied by the usda, the epa. Coming. I appreciate you joining us and thanks . Thank you very much. Hankarians pursuit of babe ruths homerun record was marred by Death Threats. First, the Rolling Stones celebrate a major anniversary. We will see how their trendsetting continues by staying on the edge on stage. Aljazeera america presents a break through Television Event borderland. Are you tellin me its ok to just open the border, and let em all run in . The teams live through the hardships that forced mira, omar and claudette into the desert. Running away is not the answer. 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Mr. President who should answer for those people hankarian hammered the point home. He is no stranger to racism, having faced multiple tell Death Threats as he neared breaking babe ruths homerun record. The Sports Editor for the nation host of edge of sports radio and author of game over. Its amazing aaron has held on to all of those racist letters and threats he got and in that context, here is something he said in an interview with usa today. He said we are not that far removed from whennists chasing the record. If you think that, you are fooling yourself. The bigger difference is that back then, they had hoods. Now, they have neck ties and starched shirts. Now, ironically, that and other comments along those lines have led to new threats and racist mail to him and to the Atlanta Braves. Dave, i dont think anybody doubts ratesism is certainly still around. Was aarons statement somewhat inflammatory, hyperbole . Well, first of all, lets go why to letters. I wrote a book with john carlos from the 1968 olympics in mexico city, one of the protesters. He as well kept all of his Death Threats from that time. For john, at least, one of the reasons why he kept them was really as a reminder about what the situation was like for himself so he could show his children and his grandchildren and, also, as a sort of marking point to see how much has changed and how much hasnt changed in the ensuing years. By the way, having read those letters, myself with john carlos, its chilling, more so than say some jackass comment that you might see on youtube or on twitter, like the ways in which people so cable construct Death Threats aimed at someone or their families is absolutely chilling. For henry aaron, as well, it looks like he held on to them as a marker to see how much has changed and how much hasnt. The mere fact he said something triggered a new round of Death Threats. The only real difference between 2014 and 1974 is that a lot of them came in email form to the Atlanta Braves organization instead of these handwritten missives that he received in the early 70s. Right, but at the same time, and of course not in any way excusing any of these threats that have come in now or any of the racism, isnt aaron when you take his statements together in that usa today interview, does it not seem that he is compairing Congressional Republicans to the kukluxklan president. Its left with his foot stuck in the mud from all of the treated. Im certainly not going to speak for henryarian but i try to look at it from the perspective of someone who is 80 years old, who was born and raised in the midst of the graduate depression from the south who came from a family of sharecroppers two generations removed from slavery who endured all kinds of racism coming up through maple League Baseball, both in the 1950s and the farm system in the south and a horrible instances in wisconsin when he played there tonal finish his career in atlanta where the crime of chasing babe ruths homeruns while black led to the kind of racist invective that was so severe that his daughter in college actually had to have bodyguards just to go from class to class in the early 1970s. So from his perspective, et cetera looking at it like that. He is looking at an africanamerican family finally, in the white house and et cetera looking at the fact that whatever you agree or disagree with president obama, i think we can say that just objectively, its unleashed a kind of tidal wave of vitriol from the right that its hard to even corprehend someone else having to comprehend with that. I think we could have predicted whoever the first president of color was would have to deal with such a thing. For someone like henry aaron, 80 years old, i maam he has far less patience for it than most. As you said, you know, social media is now playing a part to racits. You and i talked about shermap and how he was the target of any racists comments after the championship game and a writer at time. Com said what he faced might have been worst if it happened today because it is so much easier to write an email or send a tweet. Do you think, though, that things vint gotten better . Aaron sort of says, yeah, theyve gotten better but not really much. Yeah. Its interesting because now we are talking specifically about the role of athletes and i think for athletes, because of that same mass media that we are discussing, there is so much more hero worship of athletes. Plaque, white, brown, what have you, that did not exist in the early 1970s that it was still socially acceptable in 1974 for a humaning segment of the population to hate henry aaron for no other reason than the color of his skin. I think today we are dealing with a lot more codes and a lot of ways in which africanamerican athletes are held up for ridicule or derision but its not explicitly because of the color of their skin. There is all kind of language correct . I think thats the sort of thing aaron would have had to have dealt with. He pointed out baseball is africanamericans . Right only about 80 of Major League Baseball are black players, almost twothirds of the n. F. L. In africanamerican and threequarters of the nba. Number has declyde steadily. It used to be almost 19 back in 1981. But is it fair to imply that racism is behind that . No. Actually, i dont think racism is. I have studied this and written a great deal about the drop in numbers of african person in baseball plays. I think it i think its its right in a discussion about class and the condition of our cities than a discussion about race in particular because baseball is a sport that really does require infrastructure, requires coaches. It requires equipment. It requires organization. Clubs. Its requires the sorts of things that frankly just arent there in so many of our cities and the deindustry yuts. I view that as the culprit and maple League Baseball has chosen to invest millions of dollars in the Dominican Republic instead of in our inner cities is the main reason why the numbers have dropped so low. Baseball is considering changing that and trying to invest more money to change that in the u. S. And travel baseball is expensive. Thats another factor thats in there. A lot of interesting things coming out of that interview with hank aaron. Dave zirin, good to talk talk to you. The show may be over. The conversation continues on our website, aljazeera. Com consider this or on our facebook or google pages or find us on twitter at ajconsiderthis. We will see you next time. These protestors have decided that today they will be arrested these people have chased a president from power, theyve torn down a state. Whats clear is that people dont just need protection, they need assistance. The chinese economy might be slowing down but if you do business with china, you will want a piece of the action. I will tell you why. Here in the United States, factories are making more, builders are building more and people like are you spending more. I have a brandnew snapshot of americas economy. 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