Transcripts For SFGTV SFCTA Full Authority Board 20240712

Ronen absent. Safai absent. We have corium. Thank you madam clerk. Do you have any announcements . Gentlemyes, i would like to announcement about Public Comment. Please proceed. Public comment will be available for each item via telephone by calling 8882045987 and the access code is on the screen. Dial 10 to speak. Each call will be allowed 2 minutes. Calls will be taken in the order which they are received. Best practices are to speak slowly, clearly, and turn down the volume of anything around you. That completes my announcement. Thank you, could use please read the next item. Sorry, this is commissioner ronen. I can sort of hear you. Did you hear me when i said i was here. Now we can hear you, see you, and you are counted present. Good morning commissioner ronen. I think were just missing commissioner safai. With that, could use please read the second item madam clerk. Yes, item two, chairs report. This is an information item. Good morning chair peskin, vice chair mandelman and commissioners. Im the chair of the assistant Advisory Committee and im here to report on our september 2nd meeting. The c. A. C. Adopted an amended motion to allocate 14 million in doublea funds, which is item 8 on your agenda today. Among the various requests, the Golden Gate Park travel and fulton Street Safety project received favorable attention from the committee. The shortterm bike Parking Program did raise a question about the way in which the bike rafts are distributed throughout the city and how equity is ensured. Currently its based on 311 questions and by staff. They welcome further suggestions about distribution strategies. The lions share of the discussion on this item overall was devoted to the slow Street Program request. The c. A. C. Members shared overwhelming support for the program, however district 6 representative inquired about Current Treatment that were welcomed but did not rise to the standards and shared a concern that it didnt include district 6 locations. Also, district 7 did not have a slow street. Staff shared that the popularity of the program had been an early challenge and now finding resources to maintain the temporary markings and signage is a continuing challenge. She also shared that the criteria can be challenging in certain areas, although staff is continuing to research streets across the city. With the condition that the slow Streets Program allocation include the sfm treating the Current Treatment along the tenderloin in the same way as the streets include in the slow Streets Program, with regards to installing more durable measures and performing ongoing maintenance and requiring them to identify a plan in district 6 and 7. After a series of votes, the c. A. C. Approved this amended item. From a memo submitted to you, it appears that d7 does include a ten block stretch of the street at the Northern Edge of the district. In addition, other d7 streets have been proposed for the program but ran into public opposition. However, an additional street is in the process for approval for d7. As for d6, they are committed to working with Community Partners to identify official slow streets, while maintaining community streets and expanded shared spaces for both districts 6 and 7. On behalf of the c. A. C. , i would like to thank the staff for their thorough response. Now for the alemany final report, safety members noticed that bicyclist safety improvements did not figure highly in the proposed for this corridor. Program staff noted the near term bike lanes are challenged because even though alemany is a high volume street, it is still a primarily residential in this area. Finally the, work program and the staff developed a well thought out plan given the budgetary challenges ahead in our current environment. That completes my report. Thank you very much. Thank you mr. Larson. Are there any questions for mr. Larson or the c. A. C. . Seeing none, is there any Public Comment on this item . Okay chair, let me check. This is just a reminder that you press 1 and 0 for Public Comment. Thank you ms. Milton. You have one question remaining. First speaker please. Welcome. Go ahead caller. Im from san jose. I wanted to recognize the person that there are minutes for the c. A. C. And i expect my deep appreciation for accurately exposing the comments. Thank you and thank you to the staff for that. That is a lovely Public Comment which we greatly appreciate. Are there any other members of the public that would like to comment on item number two. You have zero questions remaining. Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. [gavel] madam clerk, could you please read the next item. Item three, approve the minutes of the august 25, 2020, meeting. This is an action item. Is there any Public Comment on item number 3 . You have zero questions remaining. Public comment is closed. Is there a motion to approve minutes made by commissioner. Moved, yee. Moved by walton and i will give yee the second on that item. A roll call please. On item three, approval of minutes. [roll call] minutes are approved. Next item please. Item four, appoint one member to the citizens Advisory Committee. This is an action item. Waiting for my red box to appear. All right. Good morning, the Transportation Authority has an 11 members citizens Advisory Committee with each member serving a two year term. They appoint any individual to fill open seats and neither staff or the c. A. C. Itself makes recommendations on the appointments. [inaudible] San Francisco residents [inaudible] mr. Pickford, youre a little frozen, unless thats me. No, i think thats mr. Pickford. All right. I think i can do this presentation, or ms. Lombardo. You can finish it. We have all been through this before but the person has to be a San Francisco resident, they have to have attended a meeting. This is the district four nomination and i believe that nancy bufum is in attendance. Im sorry that mr. Pickford is frozen. With that, i believe that commissioner mar intends to recommend her. So why dont we hear from ms. B bufom. Thank you very much. Im nancy bufum. Sorry, my apologies. There are very few bufums. Thank you very much and thank you to the commission for this opportunity and thank you very much for staff for your support. I am a long time sunset resident. I lived in the outer sunset since 1994. I have two children who went through the Public School system and one who is a graduate of San Francisco state. My family owns a Small Business on irving street, the artisans picture framing. Some of you may know me because of my many years as the family and Schools Program manager for the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition. We work throughout the city and the Public Events for families and children has provided a place where Civic Leaders are able to exchange information, talk to and meet families and other people who never make it to meetings and hearings. Ive been privileged to be involved in transportation issues and hear from people all over the city. In is sunset, im particularly interested in the future of the great highway and Golden Gate Park and the slow Streets Program. With the climate crisis, the precious resources of our outdoor areas in public spaces, including the places where people can walk, bike, and travel by transit and alternative mobility is especially important. I would welcome the opportunity. Thank you very much. Thank you and i apologize for mispronouncing your name. With that commissioner mar. Thank you chair. I just really want to thank your willingness to serve our city and district in this role. Ive been so impressed and grateful for all your advocacy for better transportation and Mobility Options for our neighborhood. One of the most important set of perspectives and needs for transportation is for families and children and i know you bring a strong background in supporting the needs of family and children, especially around transportation and safe street. So im really excited to support your nomination today for the Transportation Authority citizens Advisory Committee. I look forward to working closely together as we move forward on so many important priorities in district 4, including our mobility study. Sunset forward, and rideshare expansion, neighbor way expansion and the future of the great highway. Thanks again. Thank you commissioner mar. Are there any other applicants who would like to testify . I dont know of any other ones so lets go to Public Comment. Is there any Public Comment for item number 4 . Let me check. You have zero questions remaining. Seeing no members of the public on this item, Public Comment is closed. Commissioner mar, would you like to make a motion to appoint ms. Bufum to the c. A. C. . I will, i move that we appoint ms. Bufum on the citizens Advisory Committee. Is there a second for that motion . Mandelman. Seconded by vice chair mandelman. Madam clerk, a roll call please. Yes on item four. [roll call] there are ten ayes, item is approved on its first reading. With that madam clerk, the next item please. Item five, sfmta rail service update. This is an information item. Thank you madam clerk. We are joined by the director of transportation and his deputy, as well as our Deputy Director of maintenance. I want to thank the three of them for a difficult, but and unpleasant conversation we had last week as i ran them through the paces as to the, what i think we will all agree as premature opening of the subway under Market Street and reinvigorating our light rail system. With that, the floor is yours. Let me just start by saying i know that these are extremely difficult times for all of us and Public Transportation in particular. I want to salute and acknowledge the steps that the sfmta has been taking. It is our collective responsibility to drill down into that premature opening and really in a constructive fashion figure out how we can help the m. T. A. Both as a funding body and policy body and really capitalizing on the opportunity that you recognize and identified early on during the pandemic where in we have the ability to make massive Capital Improvements during the pandemic. So with that, i say that from a spirit of disappointment, but wanting to capitalize on this opportunity. So with that mr. Tumlin. Thank you chair peskin and thank you for the opportunity to come present to you today. I understand that all of you are here, both to hold us accountable and to find a productive path forward in order to deliver san franciscans the system they need. I would like to turn this over to our director of transit who will be delivering the presentation. I should also add colleagues that bob sergeant who works for the sfcta as a consultant posed early on a number of questions to the sfmta and he will also he is in attendance and is also available for questions. So feel free to jump in. I have a list of the questions you asked and i understand that they have now all been responded to and with that you can go ahead. Can i confirm you can see our screen. You can confirm yes. Great. Im here today, much like when i was here for the l. R. V. 4 to continue what i hope is a strong relationship of transparency and trust. The issue here is different in that we are faced with a defective part. I think the complexities are how do we use the opportunity to look at fortifying and improving the resiliency of our overall system. The rail service was initially shut down in march of 2020 and it was done so in the early weeks of the pandemic, which unfolded really quickly. Were seeing on a daily basis, staffing rates drop, and people that needed to stay home for their own protection and other people that were responding to this fear and uncertainty that the climate created. Our ridership dropped almost 80 , within a two week period. In order to have service be predictable and responsive to the changing travel patterns that we were seeing under shelterinplace, we were treated to a point in what weve been describing as radical resilien resilience, because it has fewer moving parts, it has simpler maintenance and can be scaled up and down very quickly. It has served us well in serving essential trips in San Francisco. Reporter all the decisions are being driven by Realtime Data that we are using both like absolutely in realtime making decisions about if a bus is too crowded, if its not too crowded, also as we make planning decisions. This when approaching the service, we had fundamental questions that we needed to add. No way to our operators or staff managing the system, we need the buses to leave every 8 minutes or every 10 minutes, and they travel at a safe speed through our city streets. That has led to, i think not only strong operator support, but being able to drive to the conditions, but also has led to over 90 head way appearance, which means were not seeing big gaps in service, even in this unpredictable times. We also let our values of equity guide this work. The people that are using transit right now are people making essential trips and people who do not have the privilege of driving in a personal vehicle and so focusing resources on communities of concern was absolutely critical. So, we made the decision to shut down the rail system as i said, because of its complexities, because of the downtown was not where we were seeing heavy trips. Thats what the rail system is great at. It is great at taking 400 people on a two car train and getting them to montgomery station in an efficient way. Thats not how people are traveling right now. During the closure, we also accelerated a lot of the state of good repair work. We already had a Strong Foundation of this. We were doing this during our extended subway maintenance windows where one week every quarter, we had been shutting down the system at about 10 00 p. M. To get a lot of deferred maintenance done and we used the same collaborations and approaches. That work really didnt start in earnest until mid summer. The department of Public Health did not have guidance for how to do close contact Maintenance Work in the first few months of the pandemic, so we were doing basic safety inspections, we were doing caretaking of the system, but it was until midjune that we were able to start our work. We did get a tremendous amount of things done. We completed the crossover, which when we do return to a bustling downtown, it will allow us to run three car trains from emba embarcadero to west portal. These are some of the photos showing staff at work. We cleaned all of our stations from top to bottom. We replaced sections of overhead infrastructure that needed to be replaced. There is a shortterm maintenance and also as we think through what makes our subway vulnerable to delay and repair. Really what was driving us is what we were seeing is an increase in Economic Activity we had a stable bus system and the service was working well, but it was crowded. Part of what the rail system did was free up capacity for us to be able to keep up with the growing bus demand. We knew we had an overhead wire vulnerability with the splices, but at that point it was presenting as a relatively low risk. We had one incident in the subway of 2019 and we havent had another incident in the subway for another 13 months. We were working to address the splice to get a better product in. It didnt present as the urgency until we really got into the full start up mode. What is the increase in ridership . We got down to below 100,000 essential trips at the very early part of the shelterinplace. There is exponential growth and we expect that to continue. Were adding Service Every 4 to 6 weeks, we are still seeing an increase in the number of crowded trips. So early on, we were only seeing 2 percent of trips be crowded. Now were seeing about 5 of trips being crowded. You pack in with your buddies and that was your trip that day. We are not picking you up. So 5 of trips being crowded means a lot of people trying to make essential trips and not get where they need to go. So our risk profile did change pretty significantly right around the time that we were opening the rail. Within 72 hours, we had two splices break, one near castro station and one near forest hill. The first was the day before we opened and the second was the monday, the first monday of service. The splice itself is shown in this photo here. This is three splices. A splice is an overhead wire part that we put up when we need to repair a section of overhead wire. So a typical section of overhead wire when its brand new and our overhead wire was all brand new in the subway in 2008. When its brand new, its in stretching of about 1,500 to 2,000 feet. If you have a nick or a problem in the wire that needs to be addressed, we often dont have time to run 1,500 feet of wire in a single maintenance window. So what well do is well place a smaller section of wire and then well put a splice on either side. The splice is intended to be very strong, stronger than the wire itself. That is not what we saw in these instances. This photo here shows that the splice broke at the second bolt, which is the weak point of the design. Its the finished part of the splice. As i said, the splice is designed to hold. If anything were to break, it should be the wire itself. We did do an independent analysis of the splice material. The material itself is not meeting the specifications, which is the main cause of this problem. It is not as many challenges as we had with deferred maintenance and old infrasfrtructurinfrastr this is not one of them. This is a relatively new part that is designed not to break, that is breaking. It is not something that is visible by preventative maintenance. It is not something thats related to the age of the infrastructure. It is a relatively low cost part. It is not something that a typical Quality Assurance program would have identified. It is not even serialalized in terms of a serial number. Its much more like a bolt than an engine if we were looking at a vehicle comparison. So, that brings up quite a bit of challenges for us as we move forward. We are very committed to addressing the problem. This chart here shows the four options that we are considering and some of these options are more fleshed out than others. We wanted you to have information in realtime, in part because we want feedback from the board on what your appetite is for a longer closure. What we are absolutely positioned to do is replace the splices in the subway. We have about 150 splices in the subw subway. We have identified an improved part. It is shown here in the graphic. It is a better design. It has been able to document that it meets all of our performance spe performance specs. The photo is showing the manufacturer putting intense force on the part. As designed, the wire breaks before the part breaks. So, we have these splices on order. We have the ability to replace them one for one in the subway. We dont think that is the right solution. The other options are we have about four sections of overhead wire that currently have about half of the splices. So just being able to run new wire through those stretches would cut the number of splices in half. We already been reducing splices through those extended maintenance windows. We seen a 25 percent reduction over the last year and this would be reducing it again. The next two options if i could just jump into here just a little bit. This will be more pleasant than our conversation the other day. Maybe you can explain to everybody how many miles of cable, of subway wire there is, when the last time it was fully replaced, how many splices existed in the beginning, which i believe was 30, and why we had to add more splices, how many splices we ultimately added. When we say we reduced them by 25 , in reality we went from 30 splices to over 200 splices, down to 152 splices. So what are if you can run us through that and what the options and considerations are and why, and why the wire keeps wearing out. Yeah, those are all good questions. So, the subway has about 11 miles of overhead wire. Its about 5. 5 miles in each direction. The subway is sectioned off where the power is essentially fed into the overhead wire and so initially we had very few in the system. We then overtime because of maintenance needs, increased and it is a floating number, but in april of 2019, we had about 200 charles, would you say thats accurate . Yes. And we reduced them by 45. The most recent mapping showed 154 splices in the subway. We as i said, we typically would put in two splices when we are fixing a short section of overhead wire because we have run a lot of Late Night Service and we have a relatively short maintenance window. We have, as i said, committed through the m. T. A. Board to four times a year have a longer Maintenance Period so that we can go in and make these more longterm repairs that cant be made in a nightly period. So, while i think we have set up a systemic fix, we are still living with the legacy of not having made that commitment until about a year ago. We are looking at four Solutions Moving forward. The last two of which would reset us and essentially get us back to where we were in 2008. They require a much longer shut down of the subway. The first would be to use our existing technology and to not only replace the wire, but we would replace a lot of the hardware and things that relate to the overhead wire. We estimate that it would take about 8 to 12 months and were currently working on things like a cost estimate and funding plan. So basically that means all the work you did in the last several months would have to be redone . Yes. Sorry for interrupting. The second thing that we were looking at and this is very preliminary, but there are some really promising some north american, but primarily european examples where they are using a different type of technology, much like running the overhead on a track above, like the track below. Its particularly designed for old historic, very low tunnels. A lot of the areas where were having to make wire replacements like what you referred to chair peskin are in these low areas of the tunnel. We are not only researching what it would look like to go back to 2008, but also is there a more modern infrastructure we want to consider for the subway . Those are the two Bigger Solutions were looking for. In all cases, we address the immediate problem. The last two options also afford us the opportunity to address many of the other vulnerabilities that we have in the subway concurrently. It would mean a longer period without trains in the subway, which is of course a very big trade off. Its absolutely predicated on Downtown Office buildings, not reopening in a significant way, which so far all of our work with the citys Economic Task force indicates that sheltering in place and working at home will continue through much of the course of this pandemic. That is the where we are with this work. We are on track to fix the shortterm problem but were also looking at researching and entering a policy discussion on what would a bigger fix and more comprehensive approach to this problem would look like. I have a few more slides. I could pause for questions or wrap up the presentation, however you prefer. Let me ask whether members or our staff or mr. Sergeant have any questions or comments at this point. Seeing none, please proceed. I have a couple of questions that are not part of your slide deck that i want to ask. Can i jump in . Absolutely. Vice chair mandelman. Im wondering if you can talk about the other vulnerabilities. When we were doing our working group last year and thinking about the things we really needed to be worried about and the train control system and drivers and many things, we didnt talk about slices. Im wondering have you is there some way of knowing or anticipating the things that are out there about to derail us . There are five or six areas of the subway, some of which youre very familiar with and are on a longer trajectory. Others are projects underway and we have an opportunity to escalate accelerate. For example, we have very old switches in the subway. They are analog, they require hundreds of signed an adjustments to be made for the switches to work which allow the subway to go from to the main line. Part of the window was placed with a more modern digital switch, including the location at church which was one of our biggest vulnerabilities. There are a couple dozen switches in the subway that would all benefit from this upgrade. The second is the actual special track work itself. The crossover for example, or the embarcadero crossover, which are part of our key functionalities in the subway, have reached the end of their useful life. That infrastructure is scheduled to be replaced within the next 18 to 24 months, but were looking to see if there is an opportunity to accelerate it so were not in a situation where we have this shut down and then we have to inconvenience people again when that work proceeds. The subway track itself is reaching the end of its useful life. We had an Incremental Capital project that is replacing the track fasteners, which is what secures the rail. We would have potentially the opportunity to do a broader track replacement. How old is the track . Im sorry how old is the track . In most cases, its the original 1976 when we debuted service in the tunnel, 44 years. Whats the Life Expectancy of the track . We evaluate where and we replace as needed. Its based on where and usage of the track rather than age. So while were having this conversation and we havent gotten to money and respectfully the failure here is that you knew you had a large period of consistent time, 24 hours a day pandemic opportunity and you we had this conversation last week. Thank you for letting me repeat myself. You treated this as if you had 2. 5 hour windows in the middle of the night. So while we havent gotten to the money issue yet, youre continuing to treat the tracks in the same way that youre treating the splices, which is this is a once in a lifetime opportunity where you can actually fix everything and stop putting bandaids on. So here is an opportunity that vice chair mandelman had just set out for you, that you should actually have an analysis as to whether or not you want to repla replace the track is while you have access to the subway, respectfully. We strongly agree and would be putting together a full program that addresses all of the areas we see as potential vulnerabilities. Some of it will be, you know, researched and may end up getting tossed out. There are some things that have very lodng lead times and other things that dont. Were looking at all of our systems, signal, track, overhead, safety, as well as drainage because as you recall, we did have some very tough rain issues at castro and at church station last year as well. Let me emphasize this point. We have a once in a lifetime opportunity. Its more than that. Never in munis 110 year history have we had an opportunity where demand to downtown San Francisco is as low as it is today and were expecting, the downtown transit demand will continue to be low for some time. I directed staff to think completely outside the box on how to take advantage of this opportunity in order to catch up on not just Maintenance Work, but also system modernization. Its one of the reasons why were glad to be here with you to ask all of you this question. What is your tolerance to keep the subway shut down, not only possibly for 12 months, but potentially longer as we catch up with decades of problems in the underground . Look, i cant speak for my colleagues but if there is a silver lining. Youre running a pretty good bus service aboveground. Everybody has adapted to that and despite the premature reopening, people are now back using surface transportation and i cant look into the crystal ball and tell you when covid19 will, you know, when the vaccine is going to come. I think the fundamental question is a question of money and resource and whether you have the capital to do this. I mean what your chart here shows is 1 sign and twodollar signs and t. B. D. Dollar sign. And the 10 people in this meeting are going to be voting on an 89 million next bus contract. Is that the proper priority or should we be fixing our sticks and bricks and wire in the subway right now . Im asking you. Do we have enough capital . Well, its a question for all of us. There are we are developing this i want to emphasize were developing this plan realtime with you. So we have single dollar signs on this chart because we want to understand the full array of the area were looking at so we can do good staff work to develop a financing plan. We are eager to partner with sfmta staff if it is your recommendation that we think really big. There are options for funding big Capital Projects and those options get a lot simpler if the balance in power shifts in the senate. So now is the time to be asking Big Questions and setting San Francisco up to potentially receive money from the federal government in order to get our subway right. I also think that the work that weve had to do, you know, rebuilding the system on the fly multiple times. If there is anything where i think we failed, its on the custom mere experience and information side. The system we have, while cutting edge, when we were the only ones that had it in the whole country, it is so out of date and the algorithm and the way were delivering predictions to customers is so out of date that we really do need an updated Customer Information System and we shouldnt be asking our customers to decide between quality information and subway that doesnt break. They really need both. And i want to emphasize at this point that san franciscans are tolerant for our infrastructure that is not always the most reliable, but only if its the right information. Our rail system so again, the splice issue is not a state of repair concern. Its a faulty material. We can continue to manage the transportation system, but we cannot manage our Information System right now. It is collapsing. It is no longer being supported by the telecommunication company. It must be replaced and our only other option is shutting it down. So we need no, i appreciate that. Sorry i didnt mean to interrupt. Well get to that this afternoon. I know that commissioner preston is up and commissioner yee, i think i just heard from you. Thank you. I think commissioner yee has to leave. If i just heard your voice, i will recognize you first because i know you have to run to another event. Yeah, i appreciate it if thats okay with commissioner peskin. No problem. Its Pretty Simple question. Since sort of development of our underground, whats the longest we closed down our system since the conception of our system itself . Im not aware of a shut down longer than twin peaks. So i think the shutdown that we did because of covid safety was our longest shut down that im aware of, but we do have wonderful muni historians we can reach out to and get an answer to that question. Okay. I appreciate it. It would be helpful to know what they tolerated in the past. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner preston. Thank you chair peskin. So, just one part of this that i appreciate some more information on is the cost issue and some of the things you laid out. If the question youre posing is taking a temperature on our tolerance for or openness to something that could be anywhere from a three month closure to what sounds like a year or so. I would like to get more info and get your comments either now at this hearing or in the future in really comparing the experience for riders, the loads that you can handle through the surface replacement versus having the line operating. Most immediately in my district, its the end. We would be running the bus, but in terms of really taking a serious look at how many people with ramped up surface level, how many people can we transport . How do the costs look at operating that versus activating rail . If you have any comments on that, i would love to hear it and get that information Going Forward just as were assessing the potential prolonged exposure. There are constant adjustments to get to the right service levels. Were currently serving it with a 60 foot bus, which under covid carries about 30 people. A two car train can carry closer to 190 to 200 people. The buses are running about every 6 minutes. Sorry, just to clarify, that number you gave is not a covid figure. With a two car train, it is a covid figure. It is, okay thank you. So we are not seeing currently crowding on the combination of reintroducing the seven, having the 60foot buses and having the frequent service. We are keeping up with demand. As the heaviest ridership route, its something were looking at very closely. The other route that were looking at very closely is the tline, which is also experiencing high ridership in part because of the make up of the community that it goes through and in part because of its heavy role in serving hospitals. So both of those routes weve been making continuous adjustments to make sure we have the right level of service. Any longterm shut down of the rail would need those refinements. Yeah, and just wanted to add, getting a clearer sense of as ridership rises, right . What is our actually ability . What percent of that ridership that would be on rail could be adominant indica adominant accommodated and what would that look like if its prolonged . We can follow up with that, thank you. The crowding data that we collect and we used to allocate our Service Hours is available to the public. If you google sfmta covid data, you can bring up the passenger count data that weve been using to adjust our service and minimize crowding. We did have crowding on the bus early in covid. As julie said, we used our data to add Additional Service to restore the seven and that quickly dealt with the problem. Go ahead. Similarly on the tline when we recently went back from rail to bus and we were running that long line, while it works pretty well as a train, it did not work as a bus. We needed much more service on the t line than the m line, which is why in a few days we broke them apart and are back to running the t bus to castro. Thank you. You know the last comment around particularly i think its important that were not looking at the replacement bus itself but the neighboring lines and i want to thank you for bringing the seven back and viewing these lines that are directly parallel as really part of the strategy, especially if were looking at prolonged periods where the rail is down. Thank you. Thank you commissioner preston and vice chair mandelman, if i could go to commissioner mar and haney and then circumstantile back to you your permission. If you dont object to that commissioner mar. Thank you. I just wanted to first of all express my strong interest in considering the option three and four, the more longterm comprehensive solutions, not just to the splice and overhead problems that the other vulnerabilities in the subway. You know, i think there is no doubt that decades of deferred maintenance are holding us back and i think if keeping the subway closed or offline for an extended period would fundamentally transform the service we deliver, it may well be worth it. I do think that we have to know more about what this trade off is and for what it would accomplish. So i guess my question is more around the comprehensive options three and four. What is the scale of reliability or Service Delivery improvement were talking about and if we go big with those options versus the sort of shorter term ones. Thank you for that question. As the director indicated, were still working out some of those ideas, but some of the immediate customer facing things were looking at is how can we get, for example, wifi in the subway. We also are looking at removing areas where we have slow zones, where the subway moves slower than its designed speed because of infrastructure tradeoffs. Were also looking at expediting things that we know need to be done that would require a shut down 18 months, 2 years, 2. 5 years from now so were eliminating future customer inconvenience, in addition to reducing the number of breakdowns. There are multiple levels when this would benefit our customers and we will absolutely come back to this board with a more detailed package outlining those benefits. Thank you. Commissioner haney. Thank you chair peskin. Part of my question was answered through commissioner mars question. Well, spoke about the possibility of federal funding that could come, you know, as a result of some changes in washington. With these timelines right here, are those taken into consideration here or if we would this is actually how long it takes to complete the work. So if funding didnt come or approvals or sump su shut up such then it could be longer than that. There are variousabilities on how the funding will be received. These are all good questions we need to follow up questions to and in collaboration with sfmta staff. Were presenting this to you in realtime. What this may mean is to separate closures, so one in the shortterm that focuses on deferred maintenance so that our capital budgets ability and the second is a later closure, for example, dealing with replacement of the train control system, which we know has to happen. Its currently scheduled in the 5 to 7 year time horizon. There is the possibility of accelerating that, that work could not be done in the immediate timeframe. We want to develop a comprehensive plan that develops scenarios around the possibility of money falling. So all of these timelines assume that we are creative and nimble and coming together across our agency and across our partner agencies, which we have seen dozens of examples of under covid, but is absolutely required here. Most of the things that im talking about are on a traditional timeline, would be a two, three, even four year project. So all of these assume that we do things more efficiently and more creatively than we done in the past. So, i recognize that all of these things are all these answers are still being analyzed in realtime. Just two other things to put in the mix that im interested in is what impacts this would have, if any on the essential subway and the timeline and the coordinati coordination. And businesses we obviously had a lot of challenges on or more recent projects and to take the pandemic and the continued impact of the pandemic and put this on top of it, i think its also an important consideration that would effect my decision. Thank you and i am sure well be talking a lot more about it. Thank you commissioner haney. Commissioner vice chair mandelman. Thank you chair peskin. Im tempted to echo the temperature checks to the desire to see transformative change happen and give m. T. A. The time you need to significantly improve riders experience in the subway. I also have concerns about promising big transformative change as people experience in the subway, shutting the subway down for an extended period of time and not dealing or not even knowing about some set of vulnerabilities that will continue bedevil the system. We talked about a central design flaw of the subway in not having the ability to get a train out of the way when it goes down and the lack ofbox of pockets or places for trains to go when theyre not functioning makes it a hard challenge which not every subway system has. Im imagining that is not something that can be fixed through a 12 or 18 month shut down. I think it would be helpful to think through what we think we can fix and what we cant fix, and are the things that we are trying to fix actually going to improve peoples experience that they look back and are not upset they had to wait for an extended period of time to get into the subway. Thats all i got. Thank you. Okay, so seeing no other members, i have some questions but madam executive director are there any comments or questions you would like to add . We have some additional slides. Yes, we have three or four more slides and we do want to see those. Tilly, if you want to jump in now or after the remaining slides. Sure, i will just note that we already discussed with the director that we are going to help partner with them to further document, analyze, assess the comprehensive needs you have been discussing. I think thats really important. I think its important to not rely on federal funds at this point. We need to make a decision soon and we need to make it without the reliance, without the confidence in knowing what our federal government would be able to provide. I think with the partnership locally, regionally, and with the state perhaps, this is a really important opportunity to assess and to do so in a comp hen sieve comprehensive way so we look at what closures are on the table. Thank you. So why dont we run through the last few slides and commissioner fewer, is it okay until we wait until she finishes her remaining slides . Thank you. The solution on the subway, i feel that its important in some way to remove or eliminate splices. On the surface, i dont think we have that luxury. We have hundreds of splices, only potentially a small hand full of which are problematic. So what were trying to do there is look for solutions whether its a dye test or something that will allow us to identify the bad splices and replace it. Basically limit the work we need to do. Its not something thats unique to the subway, but the stakes are higher in the highway because you risk somebody getting stuck on a disabled train and not being able to walk over to a replacement bus and all of the lines have a single point of failure. Any work we do, wherever we are on that spectrum of time, we will couple it up with a state of good repair work. We appreciate the boards feedback. It aligns with our Lessons Learned from this incident. The first is that there were some things that went well. Our ability to make a tough, but unpopular call as we were realizing this in realtime between 5 00 p. M. And 6 00 p. M. Is what made it so that we had Replacement Service out the next day. If we had waited, if we had hoped the problem wouldnt replicate itself, if we had hoped that our issues at the Transportation Management center where we had reduced staffing capabilities, and then tried to do something at 4 00 a. M. , then we would have had a much messier day. I think we also seen and many of you reiterated that our bus system continues to be extremely resilient and flexible in its ability for our essential workers and people making essential trips. Our approach eliminating this bandaid approach is working and one we will continue to Carry Forward on a quarterly basis, regardless of where we end up with this work. There were areas that needed improvement. We needed to direct more Engineering Resources to accelerate these solutions. At the end of the day, while i presented only one time, we saw this issue in april of 2018 and we worked carefully and methodically to get to a solution, but had it been more heavily resourced, i think we would have gotten to a solution more quickly. I think the second one echoes chair peskins feedback, which is that we need to start thinking bigger. We need to consider h full replacement rather than these incremental upgrades when the opportunity presents itself. I think were just frankly not use to recognizing this opportunity as supervisor yee pointed out. We have not had a long shut down, or even the appetite for a long shut down. We may adjust our thinking to see if the opportunity is critical. Were also committed to a continued cultural shift in the agency towards cross pollination, towards more problem solving, staff being able to raise problems and bring ideas, even if they seem off the wall because thats how we get good things done. We also, i think have learned more in the last three or four weeks from our peer agencies than in the last several years. We are not the only property experiencing this problem and we want to continue to build those lasting relationships so that your child has peers, not just in seattle or port land, but in a lot of the european cities, which directly parallels our infrastructure, gee gentlemenography and level of demand. Now the fact that we had somebody with covid in the Transportation Management center. It is an example of a group that is Mission Critical but relatively small. We are taking some immediate steps not only to shore up that group, but also to look at where we had other groups that fit that definition of small but critical. Then i think the last thing, and one of the questions that we gotten asked is if you would caught this sooner if you were running more trains. I think thats something that is an open question that we may not know the answer to. It is absolutely a best practice to get, when you shut down the system for this long, to run full Service Without customers for a few days, to really stress the infrastructurinfrastructure problems show up before theyre in front of the riding public. Thats absolutely something we would do moving forward. So thats the rest of my presentation. You hit on our key policy questions, which is should we be considering a longer shut down to accelerate work on the subway, not just overheadlines but where we have other vulnerabilities. We will continue to refine the service so were keeping up with the very rapid changes that the covid is laying out for the city. Then, you know, as i said while i dont think that 200 part may have risen to the level of Quality Control, we do want to make sure that we really are working with National Experts to refine our Quality Control program and as much as possible, protect ourselves from these types of failures in the future. So, that is where were going to be going with next steps. Obviously we have more questions in front of you than answers today. We do really appreciate the dialog and ill happy to answer any follow up questions or feedback you have. Thank you for your candor. I think you really did summarize the highlights of our difficult conversation of last week, relative to Quality Control. Obviously there will be issues of liability, relative to the break down of this very cheap 200 part. Please keep us surprised of that Going Forward. With that, commissioner fewer. Yes, i want to also defer to my colleagues who do have rail in their district. So, think it was interesting to hear from my colleagues about what theyre thinking and i want to thank m. T. A. For bringing this forward for a collaborative Decision Making process. So i just wanted to also say that im sorry you had a difficult conversation with the chair. Im just kidding. [laughter] what i want to say is that i know my term is up and i dont have rail in my district, however did i hear correctly that the piece, the splice thing that we have, that there is no way to detect whether or not they will fail and when they will fail, is that correct . At this time. So the reason that we are recommending replacing or removing them in the subway is because we dont have definitive information on when this bad batch of parts arrived. We do think that there is a potential to identify. Were working with the met lur gist so on the surface, we can try to do some testing. It may be labor intense siiinte it will be less labor intensive than removing the ground systems. Is this something that actually other Transit Companies are also dependent on and are they looking to also change out and remove them in situations such as a subway or a tunnel . Charles, can you speak to that . Yeah, so splice is necessary in line work. If we have to wire pull longer than that, we have to use a splice. Weve been using splices for decades in the system. Its recently in april of last year we had the issue with the quality of the splice were using. We have to get to the point where we can focus on when we received those parts exactly where they are, and as julie said, were working with the metal expert to go through different options to identify visible signs or dye test or magnification test or ultrasonic test to narrow down the amount of splices in the system. We shouldnt be afraid of splices. We should be afraid of the defective part. We lors lost confidence in the part. It is something thats useful as a transitional maintenance part. So we just got to identify the ones that are having poor quality and then remove those. I understand that they dont pose the same type of issue when its on the street versus on the subway. The subway is where were concerned about people getting stranded in a subway car and for how long. I think then im going to say again, with the consideration that i dont have rail in my district and im out of this game, is that we should be looking longterm. When we look at this development that were planning to have in San Francisco, such as the success that president yee just had, that were going to see a lot more use of Public Transportation and we will not have this opportunity again. The dependence on splices, actually, yes if we were able to eliminate the dependence on them, etc. Especially for the subway, i think that would be putting us in a stronger position as we move forward in our transit system. I just wanted to give that opinion with all the ka yac caveats. Now i will end my conversation. Thank you. Thank you commissioner fewer. Commissioner yee. Thank you chair peskin. So, a couple of things. Yes, we should think big. We should go ahead and create the tunnel that will go for the mline. With that said, the question here is more technical. If youre working on the line in the tunnel, can we operate anywhere else in the system . I dont know in the electricity that goes through where all the linings are interconnected, are they independent of each other . For instance, i was talking to the director last weekend and if were closing down to fix the tunnel part of it, and were experimenting with this new kl line, is it possible to run the kl line right now and in this initial stage where there may be some issues in the initial stages that we can iron out, is it possible to do that independently . Yes, its divided up in about 146 stations. We can iron it out to specific sections. So, i mean an example in 2018, we did the twin peaks tunnel track replacement project. We shut down those three miles of subway and operated the metro tunnel, the ferry portal, and we operated a lot of surface rail lines that were interlined. We continue to operate just like that through a 90100 day shut down. So per your example, we can do that. It can be subdivided. And were looking at options for how we may operate portions of the service rail system even as we keep the subway closed. Yes, that would be great so its not a complete shut down. The trade off that we want to understand is the staff resources, because the same staff that will need to do the care and feeding of the surface rail in respond to incident is also the same staff with the potential of doing work in the subway. So, we see a real benefit of surface rail, especially because it frees up areas that we are having crowding. We do need to look at it as part of an overall resource. Appreciate that. Thank you. And before i open this up to Public Comment, i wanted to raise one other issue. I appreciate that after our conversation that the blaming premature opening on covid is not a part of your presentation. Because you will recall colleagues and members of the public that when after a couple of days of running the system, it closed down. They said it was a function of spices, as well as a covid case in the control center, which i drilled down into. I really thought that it was right for the city and the m. T. A. To actually blame it on the real fundamental problem, which was the Quality Control of the 200 part known as the splice. I wanted to use this opportunity to ask about, have we replaced the an acquitted technology that supervisor dufty and i went into that property, where our control center is, where they were cannibalizing parts . Is it still the worn out 40yearold system . Its the same worn out 40yearold system. That work is proceeding, but there is no scenario that it is a 12month project but it is a tremendous undertaking, more on a 5 to 7 year timeline. That project is in our capital plan and thanks in part with our partnership, we were awarded about 40 million this year for the initial stages of working on the replacement. Were still on track for that replacement, but we wont be able to do that in this current time. All right, is there anything you would like to add or any questions you would like to ask . Thank you for the questions you posed early on to the sfmta. If there is anything you want to say, the floor is yours. No mr. Chairman, i dont have anything more to add. I guess the only other bit of information they talked about an alternative to the wires. That is still being considered within the station itself, within the transit center, simply because it helps to preclude people touching active waters or throwing items on to active wires. So that is instructing him something being considered in the united states. With that, if there are questions, i would love to answer it. I think you got a good of information. Seeing no questions for you, let me concur with you as to the sfmtas transparency and candor. Were all in it together and lets use this opportunity as best we can. With that, are there any members of the public that would like to comment on this now over hour discussed item . Okay, before we take questions, this is a reminder that the public caller call in line is 18882045987, access code is 2858465. You can press 10 to comment. With that, were going to check for comments now. Thank you ms. Milton. You have four questions remainingful remaining. First caller please. My pronouns are she her. Its a good detailed presentation but im not satisfied. We have to ask ourselves why conveniently it seems that three days of operation that these parts failed. You know, when i get a shipment of food, such as canned beans and tomato sauce, i check them. If they are defective i send a message to the website and i ask for a new one to be sent or the money be put back on my card. There is the possibility of covid and they took great pains to ensure that their control systems would stay up. I dont think it should be all or nothing either an open subway or closed subway because the new york city subway has generally run 24 hour as day and have been able to perform maintenance and construction for the most part during 24 hours a day. Our system is not a heavily loaded system. Take a look at the channel tunnel and the train in japan that runs a higher speed, higher voluntary tans, and heavier loading and you dont hear much about fallen and broken wire. So i think we have to step up to the next level and look towards not just being acceptable, but to have the mindset of building railroading that is great and legendary. Thank you. Thank you. Next caller. Next speaker please. You have three questions remaining. Go ahead caller. Thank you supervisors. Im going to talk about three things. Five years ago a spacex rocket exploded shortly after takeoff. It was tracked to a tank inside the rocket. So the tests revealed that the trap for 10,000 pounds were failing at 2,000 pounds. Thats when spacex learned they could not rely on external and needs to test every component internally. So as muni performed tests on the remaining batch of failing splices and if not, why not . The second point is that the picture of the failing splice showed that it failed at this weakest point, which is the tread for the clamping bolt. So the failure of the splice could have been cured by an overtightening of the bolt and it resulted to the failure. So the question for muni is whether muni used specific bolt specifications to tighten splices and if not, why not . The last point is about subway cars is that Battery Technology has gotten to the point where a real train can travel up to 60 miles. So the question is whether the back ups can propel the train to the next station after a failure. Thank you. Thank you caller. Next speaker. You have two questions remaining. Go ahead caller, your two minutes begins now. Sure, i want to talk to give a little bit of history of tenth street light rail was originally supposed to go on jerry. They put it on church street. Prior to that, we had a bus that really provided the best type of service. Now the previous speakers have spoken about the difficulties and so on and so forth. In this long presentation, we had m. T. A. Experts who are in broad daylight. I said time and again that when we have this discussion, we need the union to give us their input. We need the drivers, the operators to give us their input. We dont get that. We no some people with a written agenda. Now would you want to build a light rail to the middle of nowhere. We dont need that light rail. It should have started at balboa through church street, going to downtown. So what youre doing is, the m. T. A. , you robbed the money from the taxi drivers, you steal the money from the federal government, and you did not deliver a sound service. So m. T. A. Is a failure. Even if biden wins, youre not going to get it. Thank you caller. You have one question remaining. Hello caller, your two minute begins now. Can you hear me now . Yes, go ahead. Its david, and i have several comments. This is exactly the kind of Transit Service policy discussion thats needed to address current challenges and i appreciate it. Two, the operational and passenger impacts and trade offs should be discussed, as well as cost and schedule here. Three, there should be one or more public town hall discussions about the subway shut down question because clearly it effects thousands and more than 100,000 prior subway riders. Four, i did not hear in the presentation if staff believes that the new l. R. V. 4 vehicles caused more stress on overhead wire and splices compared to the previous fleet. Five, on august 22, 2020, the first day of the rail restart, i did travel the system and i did not see that all of the overhead lights have been replaced and the subway stations or the subway station track and walls have been pressure washed to remove debris and grime. I ask that both of those things happen prior to the next restart. Six, we all had Difficult Conversations with chair peskin and i think its just a part of the public process. Thank you. [laughter] thank you caller. Are there any other members of the public for Public Comment on this item number 5 . You have zero Public Comments remaining. Public comment is closed. Madam clerk, can you please read the next item. Yes, item six, state and federal legislation update. This is an information item. Colleagues, given the length of this meeting and the fact that we still have the timma meeting ahead of us and the board of supervisors, would it be okay if we heard this item number 6 at our next meeting. If there is no objection, council do i need to make a motion to continue it or can i as chair, president , unilaterally continue item number 6 . This is chief deputy, you as chair may defer the item. All right, we will continue the item to our next meeting on the 22nd of december. Madam clerk, can you read item number 7. Program 4308164. 00 in prop aa vehicle Registration Fee funds to three projects and amend the 2017 prop aa strategic plan. Prop aa is a 10 vehicle Registration Fee. That funds transportation projects. Its small compared to prop k. It focuses on quick to deliver projects that provide tangible benefits. It can fund the design and construction spaces for the voter approved proposition over the 30 year life of the program. We ensure funds are allocated to a 50 , 25 , 25 split between the three categories of prop aa. So we released a call forren pros in june of this year, with the amount available split between those 30 categories i mentioned. There are large amounts available in the transit category due to the cancel muni metro enhancement phase two project that we discussed in june. We have the screening and prioritization criteria, which does place a heavy emphasis on project readiness and coordination. So getting into the recommendations, since we didnt receive any applications in our street repair categories, we recommend using the Funds Available to Fund Additional projects in the Pedestrian Safety category. This means that in the future, we need to Program Additional projects in that street repair category to make sure we meet that 50 requirement. Our first is joyce alley lighting which would install four pedestrian lights in joyce alley between clay and sacramento street. Its an alternative to walking on crowded sidewalks, which are on the high injury network. Given the lack of other funding options, were recommending fully funding this project. Pave street alley way would include six sidewalks, and the citys first raised intersection at buchanan street near the elementary. In order to make sure that both Pedestrian Safety projects can advance, our recommendation is to partially fund the project and then work to fund the remaining amount with prop k funds from the bicycle category that our program, in phase two of the project which hasnt moved forward yet. The transit category, we recommend fully funding the request, which would replace track and overhead wires between west and sunset boulevard. This is part of a much larger comprehensive project with everything from paving to stop optimization, new sewer, all that stuff. Because this property is project is ready to go, there are prop k funds contingent on the board approving them. And were not recommending funds for next generation united barrier project. We know upgrading it will be a priority with bart and we will work to identify funds so they can be admit in the future. With that, i can take any questions and we have project managers on the phone. Are there any questions from members on item number 7 . Seeing none, is there any Public Comment on item number 7 . You have zero questions remaining. Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Is there a motion to program this 4. 3 million made by commissioner preston. Commissioner preston and seconded by mar. Commissioner mar. On that motion made and seconded, madam clerk a roll call please. [roll call] next item please. Allocate 10645271. 00 and appropriate 60,000 dollars in prop k sales tax funds, with conditions, and allocate 3,664,159 in prop aa vehicle Registration Fee funds, with conditions for nine questions. This is an action item. More chair, can you see my presentation . We can. Great. Im hoping that my wifi holds out. Let me continue. The first request is from the caltrain agency. This is for funds that are in addition to the million 1. 3 million we have allocated to date for 180,000 to be added to it for a bridge rehabilitation project. This is to increase the safety and to reduce future Maintenance Cost of this bridge structure. The next question was in the enhancement project. So we were told this is not going to be available for the duration of this projects advertisement. We are recommending them on the project, prop k. The board approved 11 million in prop k funds for the property and project and allocate the 4 million that is being recommended as part of this allocation. The first of two projects from district one, this is the fulton Street Safety project and its for improved 3 miles along fulton street along the border of Golden Gate Park. These are recommendations that have stemmed from the project that was recently completed and were expecting that this work will be done by spring. Stockton, this is a signal upgrade or signal Infrastructure Project Municipal Transportation Agency is taking advantage of the coordination opportunities to tag along to a curb ramp project that the Public Works Department is engaging in and this will work will require larger signal faces at these intersections. The Community Based transportation plan. This is the designed phase of some of the high priority recommendations that ematerierg from this Planning Project that was completed. It includes two rectangular rapid flashing beacons as you can see on your screen and an example of. And the locations, the universe of the list of locations that emerged as friethe planning pro and they will work to identify nine of those locations. The six street Pedestrian Safety project, this prop k request will leverage state grants and impact fees. This is really to transform the corridor, including widening sidewalks and new signals at stevenson, which are on alleys. Im looking forward to seeing that work come in. Shortterm bicycle parking. This is the prop k portion of the funding plan that the board approved when it programed transportation funds for clean air. This will be across the city. Members of the public can call 311 to request locations and if merchants are interested in bike parking car r corrals. Thats an opportunity as well. The funding request, you heard about this request during the c. A. C. Chairs report. There are no streets included in district 6 and 7. District 7 is not well requested. The m. T. A. And the tenderloin in the same manner as a slow street and requiring m. T. A. To identify slow streets or similar treatments in district 6 and 7. The improvements that are included in this request are more durable materials. These are flexible delineaters and signage, to indicate the shared nature of the street. The motion said this would replace the temporary barricades and implement measures on these streets that are shown in the enclosure. In response to the conversations at the c. A. C. , m. T. A. Has prepared a memorandum and we have distributed that memo to board members. Its also poested on our websit under this item. I do anticipate that there will be some discussion about this item so let me quickly present my last slide, which is for the golden gates travel study. This is at the request of commissioner mar and fewer, to convene Interest Groups and stakeholders to assess whether they will determine the with that, i can answer any questions. If someone would mute their dogs, that would be fantastic. All right. Are there any questions commissioner fewer . No questions, i just wanted to comment on the funding, thank you. Go ahead. Okay, im delighted to move forward this Sustainable Travel study. We seen how crucial access to open spaces for residents and i want to ensure that were looking at plans and access for the parks through an equitable lens. And to be able to access institutions that serve all visitors. We are fortunate to have this gem of open space, a stone throw away but i recognize Golden Gate Park is a citywide treasure as well. This study will aim to convenience our stakeholders in a working group, which bring a unique voice, advocates community organizations, business businesses adjacent to the park and thank you commissioner mar for your connections to golden gate factpark. The Traffic Safety project will bring changes to this high injury corridor in my district. Daylighting at intersections to improve visibility, a. This project will put people first. Seniors who cross fulton to access Senior Centers and families that cross to access the park. Thank you to Bicycle Coalition and my 1,500 neighbors who participate in this process, via surveys, audits, open houses to amplify the vision for a safer fulton street. Thank. Thank you commissioner fewer. Are there any members of the public who would like to testify on this item . Sorry. Thank you for your patience, but the bridge is having a bit of a glitch. Were trying to fix it for Public Comment. Lets go to commissioner haney and then well go back to the phones. Commissioner haney, the floor is yours. Thank you chair peskin and thank you to sfmta staff. Hold on commissioner. Okay. [inaudible] go ahead commissioner haney. Thank you chair peskin. You heard at the beginning of the meeting in the overview of the c. A. C. Meeting that occurred that the concerns about the lack of slow streets in district 6 are very strong from the representative on the c. A. C. , danielle, as well as residents, organizations, leaders in district six and me and my office. They gotten to a level now whereas you heard the representative on the c. A. C. Actually called for defunding the street more broadly to be put on hold and on district six and seven as well. It included you know, i feel very strongly that we should have made a lot more progress in district six during covid with emergency responses on our street. We do not have slow streets in district six. We are being treated differently in many ways. We have an entirely different category of emergency Streets Program that exist in district six, but has also been inadequate. So, i want to ask the sfmta staff and i appreciate the memo that was sent this morning on this particular issue. If you could describe the next steps for district six as it relates to slow streets, either securing funding to make some of the emergency street changes permanent in district six. Its been difficult for us to be, to have a sense of what sort of changes are going to happen in district six when we have been excluded entirely from the slow Streets Program. So, i appreciate that and i have some rather than holding up the funding for the whole thing, which i say i am strongly supportive of the slow streets funds being released and for the program more broadly in other districts, but i do want to have a sense of how we will fix this for my district, which has a majority of the streets in district six on the high injury corridor. Good morning commissioners, and thank you commissioner haney. Livable streets director. So, we absolutely appreciate the unique needs of district six and appreciate your leadership commissioner haney. What we seen with slow streets specifically is that its one of many tools that we tried to use as part of our covid response. That particular tool may not be as applicable to a lot of the streets in district six. So where we have seen for instance a request for fulton street, we werent able to do that. We were able to move forward a play street there. And we can get to a very specific list. Id say it was probably around ten or so. A lot of those weve been able to supervisor haney ill follow up with a memo, if that makes sense. Perhaps, you can return with an update. I will support the funding for the polk