Course, we both came from background that concentrated on grirnt weve developed relationships with farmers and producers in the restaurant where we were that really contained on working with good sustainable mostly organic ingredients when albert was able to take the family farm which was the Straus Family dairy albert transitioned that dairy that was traditionally to organize garlic he was the first organic dairy west of the mississippi it took place in 1992. You have to learn holistic medication to keep them height he had to study how to grow the crops and keep the land in organ garlic compliance so lucky will i hes brilliant. Hes brilliant but also there was this little group of farmers out there and one of the most notable is warrener and i know that probably most everyone has had something from webers farmer farm there was a group started up and it was called the farmers growers group. And the whole idea behind that was to be able to get a group together to start a Farmers Market in the raising but this group that got together was a Dynamic Group susan was one of them Albert Straus and ellen straus started the Los Angeles PoliceDepartment Trust it was a group about evolving the food world and trying to make it a better food world for all involved purifies living out there i moved out there in 89 and i thought we have to have a Farmers Markets all those 0 great food but no access to the food i tormented the farm bureaucracy and skmd askedhe fat they said we have no farmers we have reefrjz they grow beef and cattle they didnt count warren weber as a farmer in restaurants cycle he was one of the most important femurs we were starting from a very and the first meeting i went to with the land trust the same people said we zoo dont have farms we have dairies they served powered mingle with the coffee this was where we started even though so much had gone before your story we look successful because were at the ferry building, you know, laughter but it took us a look at to get to the point we are that actually cash positive probably about 9 years no 6. Okay 6. And and then the food building has been a huge help for all farmers. Our cheese chief you have to taste that youve never harder of st. But maybe holbert farms by now there are there was a lot of the small produced heese a thats toil one thing experience for us. When we started sue started a marketing cop company from the region which was excuse me. A i said that. Thats it. Okay. Then when we started making fresh cheese we made cottage cheese and cripple fresh. We had our really a 10 gallon vateb made cheese i and graduated to an oldge cheese that was wisconsin and thats a 2 hundred allon but actuaqo and larr 3 hundred gallon vat. But your production is were making only freshrvys b ou cma dairy place london. T okay. Well buy a small production cheese for our cheese spt with fresh cheese but were going to use alberts milk thats a traditional style shops in europe. And azft this point wev starte little boxes out so we had to o. Making a bludgeoning and cream and cottage cheese inferent restaurant toolsith respect a little bit interested but anyone because of all the small prod would hp smalloducers t that theyre a dis to drive out. Say h nwrot only is willing t they thought we were take my cheese min so we started to build a portfolio of prtien in the 9 we got a shop fillmore and we called it is shop was 4 hundred square feet 4nd were in the backrooms we only fitm and a halfp the unte. So that way we thought if we have this little shop then people who work and try it shou round