[roll call] item number 2, opportunity for the public to comment on any matter within the committees jurisdiction that is not on the agenda. Seeing none, were going to move on to item number 3, approval with possible modifications of the minutes of the august 26th, 2019, meeting. Minutes, any objections . I dont have objections, but i did note a lot of typos in there. I marked several of them up, and i can give them to you. I can go ahead and take them. Reporter they missed a bunch. Maybe you want to take a look in addition to what i wrote down. Okay. But its nothing too major. There are a couple that may have confused the meaning a little bit of the sentence. For the most part, you can figure what it is and theyre bad for the agreement, and some of the tenses werent right. This doesnt preclude us from approving minutes, does it . Other than that, sure. With the correction of the typos, but no material changes. Yes. Public comment . Seeing none, well move on oh, sorry. Ill move to approve the minutes with the corrections that brian has recommended. Second. Any other objections . Any objection . Seeing none. Moving on to item number 4, presentation from various departments regarding the 2000, 2008, and 2012 park bonds and actions by the committee in response to such presentation. Good morning committee members. My name is im the director of Capital Planning for recreation and Parks Department. I have a short presentation for you today. The first slide, if you can turn that on. Thank you. The first slide we have is such a short slide on our status of the 2000 bond. The 2000 bond is officially closed. Final reconciliation is complete. Were elated. There were a lot of projects that came out of that program. The biggest is the picture on the wall, and just of the center. There was approximately 87 projects that came out of the bond program. So, this will be the last time you be hearing about it. On the next slide is a slide on our 2008 bond, which is substantially complete except theres a minor project, which is the burner trails, which were leveraging some other funds from the 2008 bond and 2012 to complete that work. That work is slated to be complete in early 2020. This is our current schedule of our Neighborhood Park project. 50 of funding allocated for the Neighborhood Park program has been either spent or encumber with the plan opening of the project, which is coming up earlier next year. Many of the projects will be open to the public. Were excited to hear that. There are many projects in construction right now. They include the garfield pool, margaret hayward, all slated to be completed by the spring of 2020. We aim to finish all of these projects by 2020. This is the highlights of our city wide program buckets. Under the project, its complete now, which is a square open to the public a couple months ago. Five projects from that program is actually in construction. Youre going to see a series of projects, ribbon cutting, openings in the next couple of months. Were excited about that. This is a Publicprivate Partnership between recreation and Parks Department and San Francisco parks alliance, where were leveraging about 15 million from the Bonds Program with a 15 million thats been raised. Its a successful program. Were excited. Highlights of mclaren park and the group picnic project is under way. We have work thats ongoing, that will be ongoing. The concept plan was just approved at the commission a couple weeks ago. Were excited about that. On our Committee Opportunity fund project, the phase one of the project is actually under way. Also, its slated to be complete in december of this year. A larger project, exciting project, the Tennis Center is under construction, which were leveraging some Community Fund dollars with private philanthropy that broke ground this summer, slated to be complete in time for the 150th anniversary of golden gate. And our order conservation, which is in construction right now, slated to be completed this month. This is just some highlights and pictures of our recent, some of our recent work. The Water Conservation is one. Its under construction, slated to be completed in december on an average, when the Water Conservation project is complete, we expect to save over 2 million gallons of water from this effort. Were deeply excited about that. Another picture is that one of the panhandle with the ground breaking, with the mayor and our general manager and also the rec center, under the Neighborhood Park project that they opened up last month. Were excited about that. So whats next . So after nearly three years of work, we have an Asset Management assistant called life cycle. It allows us to perform planned preventative maintenance to prioritize repairs and organize and replace our capital renewal. We assessed over 56 million square foot of vertical and linear assets in the last year alone. In addition, it will form the basis for our planning for the next one in 2020. Although a lot of work has been done through the last two bonds, there is still a lot that needs to be done. Were planning for growth that is going to happen in the city in the next 10 years and we just sort of convened a Bond Working Group that will help move some of these bond Planning Efforts forward. Some of their goals will be to develop indepth knowledge of needs and issues of city wide parks and facilities, assist in the r. P. D. Data analysis and goal prioritization, providing an overview of our 10 years of the parks and facilities. As part of that effort, for the Asset Management and the assessment of our facilities, we identified over 950 million worth of different maintenance needs. We intend to sort of use that Asset Management database to prioritize our work in the next decade. The next slide in front of you is sort of building upon the successes of the 2008 bond and the 2012 bond. We will continue to use the criteria that we use then. The criteria used then was our condition assessment, which was more robust now, which our Life Cycle Program will continue to sort of keep in mind growth in the city and our equity areas also, sort of policy priorities for us. Our multiuse side is another criteria that we will intend to use for our future bond planning and life cycle on our much more complicated complex bigger projects, were adopting some strategies around project readiness and engaging with the community some moving forward with some design efforts to understand the complexity of the work. In the past, as with the past two bonds, we anticipate that there will be two parts of funds, which will be the Neighborhood Park projects, named park projects and these programs have been highly successful. I mentioned the playgrounds, our community Opportunity Fund program, which is essentially a Grant Program which neighborhood groups come together, raise funds, and we match those funds. Our Water Conservation park is also highly successful. Urban forestry trails and sustainability. The next slide sort of shows our outreach for the next bond. We intend to use some online efforts. We intend to take advantage of our existing advisory group, direct park commission, and to go back into the community for extensive outreach, which in turn helps us develop the bond program and will be coming back to the rec park program in 2020 to show our findings. The last slide is an overview of the schedule before as we prepare for the 2020 bond. As i indicated earlier, we have convened a Bond Working Group that will be working to prioritize our projects based on the criteria that i outlined earlier, so next we anticipate 20 to 30 meetings in the next couple of months. Then the findings will be in early 2020 and turns over to the Capital Planning and the board of supervisors so they can get on the ballot in june 2020 for election on november 6, 2020. So that sort of ends my portion, the rec park portion of the presentation. I can take it. Antonio, capital fitness minister for the recreation and Parks Department. I understand theyre very short staffed at the moment, so i can go over what theyre currently doing in the 2008 and 2012 bond. So in construction using those funding is crane co park. All the other projects are complete. In 2012, the crews terminal plaza has been completed in design and environmental review, and agua vista park and pier 27 public art and most notably, the fifth issuance was completed. So for the ports final 3 million of the 2012 bond, final issuance was completed so those funds are available for the port projects along the coast or the eastern part of the city and to summarize the 2008 bond program coming to an end, 2012 is well on its way, at least for rec park ending in 2020 and i think both departments are looking forward to next year for the 2020 bond schedule. Thank you. Ill be happy to answer any questions you have. Before we get into that, we have a liaison report. Sure. So my name is bart, i met with antonio. Basically, it seems that looking at the list and the completed projects, 87 completed project from the 2000 bond is a great record. One thing i did like about what theyre doing is looking to stretch the money and getting private funding for some of the areas that are more an influential for these parks. I went to visit a few parks and i seen the work thats been done. One thing thats a great point made is that our parks is one of our last democratic areas, you know. We can walk into a park and its free for us. The thing is too, i noticed how many water fountains there are and the question of whether or not to have restrooms. San francisco has some great parks and i appreciate what theyre doing and i think theyre moving in a good direction. Thats basically my report. I do have some questions. If you can help me out with a clarification on the prosac, what is that an acronym for . Its our parks and recreation open space advisory. Cpc is the planning group, which is comprised of all City Departments. That sort of looks at all of the Capital Investments for the next 10 years, for the entire city, not just for rec park, transportation, health, and all the other sectors. And the b. O. S. Board of supervisors. Im not hot on all these acronyms, but i will be by the time this is over. One of the things i like to do through our committee is get a point of contact for the port of commission at some point. So aside from that, that would be great. Point of contact for the port commission. Thank you. Yes. One question on the 2000 bond. This is just for edification. This is a bond im the liaison for. It says on page 3, under program management, second bullet point, staff reappropriated 5. 6 billion in remainders of completed projects into a master project for subsequent allocation. Do you have to go to the board of supervisors . Antonio . Yes, we did. The 2000 bond was held at the project level. So for the specific projects, it was whats known as the deappropriation, reappropriation at the board of supervisors through a supplemental ordinance. So yes, it went to the board of supervisors. The reason i asked that is because im a liaison for one of the muni bonds. In shifting money between a couple of categories on a temporary basis, they had to go to the board of supervisors. This is the kind of thing i would expect that too. The 2008 bond, i had a few real in the weeds kind of questions and im going to skip that one. I think i know what thats about. On the Raymond Kimbell playground, it looks like its delayed about 2. 5 years in actual completion. You were looking to complete it in november of 2012, and it didnt get completed until the 15th of june. Was there a delay claim in particular . Yeah, to answer your question, actually there was an Additional Community engagement that occurred on the project and we had to really understand the scope of the project before implementing it. That Community Effort took a couple more months, and then putting it out to bid and then implementing it. I understand. Okay, on page 16, under project status summary, the budgets and actuals were dollar for dollar exact. How did that come about . Yes, antonio again. Thats just the accounting reconciliation at the end of the day, we need to get to 0 in the bond. I figured it was Something Like that, but i didnt know. On page 23, under the pier 43 bay link trail, second paragraph, during the entitlement process. I didnt know what the entitlement process was. What page . 23. Right here. Thats the waterfront, right . Yeah. I think i will defer to the port in dealing with them. The entitlement, oh sure. That is actually the process by which the project seeks sort of the Environmental Action approval through city planning. Okay, i figured it was Something Like that and im glad i asked. While i figured that, i can know that. Finally, the only one you still have in construction, you went from a completion date, planned completion date of february 15th to september of 2020. Construction didnt happen until much later. Was that it that major of an effort. On this particular one, were going to defer to the port that is not here today. Ill hold it for them when they show up next. Its for edification. Whats done is done. Yeah, i think i know whats happening, but i rather have them speak to that. Ill be here next time. Thats all. Thank you. I have a question falling off of some of Community Member larkins comments. Im one of the people that been to these parks. I love seeing these investments and improvements, but the timelines between estimated and actual completion is wildly different. There are a few probabilijects completed early, but most are delivered late. What efforts are you taking as you think of the 2020 bond, to try to get that to line up better so when peoples expectations will line up better with what were seeing. Thats a good question. I think we continue to learn through the process. One of the things were doing now is actually having a much more robust timeline for each phase of work. So, maybe sometimes we believe Community Engagement should take six months. What were finding out is that it takes closer to a year plus. On much more complicated projects, what were doing is actually leveraging existing funds to understand the scope of our work better, so that the issues around scoping, around costing can be realized early so we can implement the projects better. You know, also the other part of this is i believe were better staffed now. Absolutely. Were better staffed as a capital team, so were sort of positioned to deliver it to 2020. So the other part of this is also entitlement through city planning takes time. Anyone thats donnie done any small to medium sized projects knows what it takes. Storied properties take longer because we have to do additional analysis, more questions, and so forth. Were actually getting ahead of that and doing that work ahead of time now. Were trying to mitigate those times. Thank you. Thank you. I have a couple of questions and comments. Regarding the port in particular, do we audit the ports aspects of this bond . Im from the Controllers Office. Yes we do. We have the same authority on the ports project as anything else. I am looking at the schedule for audits to see when this may come up. February 2021, this group of park 2012 park bond will be in our audit sample. So, its not planned for our construction audit until then. Okay. The authority is the same. Okay. So, im telling you guys because youre here that im disappointed that the port didnt show up for this, especially as were heading towards the sea wall bond. I would like to calendar the port specifically for our next meeting and ask them to come in and actually present in more detail about what they have said here. There are no numbers on here. Again, you guys are not responsible for them, but they need to understand that if theyre going to be part of these bonds, by something you said earlier, around the 2020 bond, i assume theyre going to have projects on that one too . Actually, the port is not going to have any project in that particular bond, according to the 10 year capital plan. Its helpful for us if they dont because its hard to have two separate groups hold responsible. Thats the port. Regarding the 2020 bond, thank you for your thoughtful prework on that bond. We have seen that the bonds are much more thoughtful and well written when that type of work is done ahead of time. Thank you. And it sounds like youre being thorough in trying to address that. You mentioned the deferred maintenance of 950 million. Is that teasing the idea that youre going to put a bunch of deferred maintenance on that bond . Its hard to do that. The data actually just came in. In addition, its just to understand for our maintenance and Operations Team how to prioritize their work. You know, in the past were great at repairing the lot. Were not great at being proactive. Its actually understanding the life cycle of all our assets. So with this effort, with this Asset Management system, it will allow our Operations Team to prioritize the work. Through that effort, it elongates the life cycle itself, and part of the work well be doing as the next bond also, and some of the future work i anticipate will happen. Okay. Because 950 million is a lot. Sorry . 950 million is a lot for a bond. Yes. That 950 million that you see is sort of a snapshot in time of what the deferred maintenance sort of needs will be in the next 5 to 10 years. Yeah, thats a very illustrative that we need to take care of our capital assets. I agree with that. What amount are you thinking about . Its been allocated as 255 million. And you said in that bond, youre going to have named parks and programs. The named parks are much easier for us to govern. How are you going to split that 250 between named parks and programs . So, as part of the bond, the current Bond Working Group, they will help split that up. I anticipate a mix. In the last bond, close to 60 of the funds from that bond came from the named parks and the rest went to the programs. I anticipate some sort of balance and shifts in that manner. Okay, so just as a cautionary, it can be difficult to govern that and for us, the voters to understand expectations when the money is being used. Sure. In undetermined ways. Yes, and i think i should be actually very clear about that one. The last bond, there were about 71 projects that came out of this 2012 bond. 15 of them were named projects. The rest of them are sort of in the program bucket. What it does is that in most cases, not all communities or projects can get named projects on the bond. It gives the opportunity for smaller, sort of projects to get on the bond. It gives opportunity to force a stewardship project. It gives up a sort of build support for projects that need it, small projects. They fall through the cracks too, sometimes. So, were able to do that through that program. So, one thing ill say is that our delivery rate for all of these projects so far is 100 . We intend to do that. Yeah, no, i appreciate the ability to be reactive in both the community and whats happening because these bonds last. Were seven years into 2012 and its not over yet. I struggle with how does bart look at these things and see how your Decision Making process in picking one thing over the other. That would be incumbent among the department in their reporting. They need to do what they need to do. If were having trouble evalu e evaluating success, we need to work with them on how to help us understand. It has nothing to do with my opinion. Its their call on how to split the bond. Thats not our call. Okay. I see your point, its just being able to detract from our standpoint. As these probablinjects come up belief is that its going to be an ongoing discussion. For the voters to understand, seeing 250 million and seeing 5 named projects, they think its all going there. Its also to be used on smaller projects. Some parks are hidden. You take a drive or ride to the city, you discover a new park or a hillside open to the public. So, to address your question, i think how do you frame that in a reasonable manner to the public . Awesome. Im thrilled to have this conversation about the question behind these bonds. What is an equity zone . So, an equity zone is the San Francisco census track of our 20 of our disadvantaged communities. Were using sort of an e. P. A. Standard, a statewide standard that measures income level, language isolation, and so on and so forth to determine that. Is it a state term . Yes. Equity zone. Its not a state term, but were using the california e. P. A. Which has done a great job in understanding equity communities. Yeah, i didnt know if that was a tax term, why its called an equity zone. Is it because people will get tax benefits in investing in them . No, its not a tax. It has nothing to do with tax volume. Its a way for us to understand better, some of our under served and communities and to understand because historically they have been given the resources they need and we want to address those equities. And my other question, also had to do with the 2020 bonds. It looks like the criteria that you outlined, it looks quite thorough and i just was wondering how you would describe the Community Engagement strategy, right . The public planning process. My guess right now is that you already know whats going into that 2020 bond because of what the city needs, yet you have to have a public planning process. I understand that. How extensive a public planning process is it . How much time do you need to spend on Community Engagement for what you already know needs to be in that 2020 bond. I just want to make sure time isnt wasted. Sure, i agree with you. Going into a neighborhood, asking them what you want in this park, and you already know what they want in the park. They have been telling you for 10 years. I deal with that in the neighborhood where i live. You have to have community meetings, but we already know, the community lets us know all the time what they want, that type of thing. Thats a good question. In as much as we have an idea of what this project could be, ultimately we dont i or i as a staff member dont make that call. Its made by our rec parks commission. Its important we do Community Outreach to really understand those needs. We may not be able to understand since were not hearing about it. This program part of money that might be able to fit into those needs. So, i dont want to sort of assume that we know all the projects. Im going into that to better understand, as i sort of mentioned, our need always out lasts the resources that we need to do, and prioritization of this asset, of this need is something that we will need the community to help us do. And i guess the ultimate goal with your new asset tracking program that you described, eventually wouldnt it be nice if there should be fewer and fewer Community Findings that take you by surprise. Youre on it because thats the beauty of this new system. I wish you the best of luck ruling that out. I hope that eventually the difference in what the community identifies and what you knew about should get smaller overnight. Absolutely. Thats the idea. Yes. Thank you. Any other comments . Thank you. Any Public Comments . Seeing none. No Public Comment, we will move on to item number 5. Presentation from the city Service Auditor regarding the Whistleblower Program. These on report of the whistleblower and possible action by the committee in response to such presentation and report. Good morning chair chu, members of the committee, acting director of audits, civil citys auditor. Im here with that oversees the Whistleblower Program. In 2019, we provided you with the status of our fy18. Were here to give you the full fiscal year update on our whistleblower activities, efforts, and initiatives. We want to thank the liaison for our Whistleblower Program, chivan and peter, to give them an update on our program and give them an overview of the different processes we have. Just very quickly, for those who are new to the committee, we just want to give you a highlight of the different authori authorities overseeing our Whistleblower Program. There are three primary sources of our authority. The first being the california government code, section 53087. 6, which provides for the auditor controller of the jurisdiction to investigate fraud waste abuse of any government employees. The second source of our authority is our local San Francisco charter, appendix f, which designates our city controller, the city Service Auditor to administer our Whistleblower Program and investigate misuse, waste, inefficient and improper usage of our resources and activities. The third source of authority is our San Francisco campaign and government code, article iv. That basically directs the controller to administer the Whistleblower Program for the citizens, an employees of the city to report any situations of m misuse and improper use of our resources. Steve will talk more about the recent changes to that San Francisco campaign and government code, conduct code to see how we have revised some of our program elements. Steve will go through our program activities. So apendix f include it is misuse of city funds, improper activities by city officers and employees, inefficiencies in government services, and wasteful government practices. There are also some specific matters that the Whistleblower Program does not investigate and when we get those, these types of complaints, we refer them. It including a complaint to adjudicate, complaints that may be resolved through a grievance, bargaining contract, allegations which may involve violations of criminal law, investigations that are subject to already investigations being performed by the city attorney, district attorney, or Ethics Commission and those allegations of varieti varieti varieti varietial environmental ethics law. We have the reports received since july 1, 2012. The Whistleblower Program received 502 new reports, an increase from the previous fiscal year. They received more complaints each fiscal year since 2013. There are several factors that can influence the number of reports received. We cant attribute the program to any one factor. It includes how the Whistleblower Program is advertised or organizational culture. The high volume could mean that its working as planned or theres a greater awareness of the program, or that the Department Management is setting the proper term in reinforcing mechanisms, which include the Whistleblower Program. So heres when our report volume trended downward. We found that San Franciscos Program Receives more complaints per capita then other jurisdictions. We also compared our volume against Industry Benchmarking reports. Just another look at our complaint volume in fiscal year 20182019. We received 502 new reports throughout the course of the year, we closed 493. If just a look at how people file reports. The majority of the reports we receive is through our online intake form. Regardless of what reporting channel is used, each report is assigned a unique tracking number and is systemically reviewed so it can be resolved as efficiently and effectively as possible. The Whistleblower Program closed 406 of the 493 within 90 days of receipt, achieving the goal of closing 80 of all programs received within 90 days. They recognize that if reports are not resolved in a timely manner, they may report that their reports are not taken seriously. The number of allegations made in each report and the availability of corroborating witnesses and evidence. Of the 493 reports that we closed, nearly half reached closure after the an invest. It includes any research and investigation to determine if a full investigation is warranted or possible. Some may be referred to a City Department involved in the allegation for investigation and response. We coordinate with these other departments and that uses their Department Expertise and leverages all resources to make sure the allegations are resolved in a timely manner. Management must respond to the Whistleblower Program on any action taken in response and these responses are reviewed by the Whistleblower Program before the case is considered closed. This chart summarizes the disposition of closed complaints, dating back to fiscal year 1516. However, having the Whistleblower Program is a citys Central Point for report intakes ensures risk trends are identified so the City Management can address it. Of the 256 investigations we closed in fiscal year 1819, 103 resulted in the Department Taking corrective or preventative action. They believe its when reporters make high quality reports that are investigated. They work to educate employees and members of the public by publishing bulletins to make individuals aware of red flags associated with fraud. In fiscal year 1819, there was materials on supply chain fraud and overtime abuse. Of the 91 reports that were open on june 30th, the majority were 90 days old or less at that time. The Whistleblower Program examines factors that delay work closure and work to address these issues. Whistleblower programs are making sure that investigations are standardized and increase the skill sets of these employees to make sure they have an understanding of the responsibilities entrusted to them to carry out the whistleblower investigations. So one of our big initiatives in fiscal year 1920 is addressing the new requirements in the conduct code. In january 2019, changes to the conduct code went into effect. These changes place responsibilities on city supervisors to assist employees in filing retaliation claims. Also whistleblower protections were expanded to city contractors and employees of city contractors. As part of our fiscal year 1920 work, were collaborating with the Ethics Commission, and our new hire training videos to reflect change mandates in preparation for a potential increase in Whistleblower Program reported volume, were cross training other auditors in the shop on whistleblower processes to address any complaints that result from these new outreach materials. Just some other initiatives we have going on this fiscal year, our quarter 1, 2019 report is in progress. Were reviewing the template to make sure the language in there is consistent with the new requirements of the government conduct code and were looking for ways to distinguish, to get a better sense of how much of the report volume is driven by the new outreach to city contractors. We host a fraud hotline and investigation webinar series. This is done for the past few years. It will continue with two webinars. The first will take place on november 6th. These webinars have been well attended and regarded by other jurisdictions throughout the United States and were engaging in other initiatives to make sure we have a best in class program, prioritizing a website redesign. The Controllers Office plans to engage a web designer and builder in the next few months and have a redesign at the end of this fiscal year, beginning the next fiscal year. It would to improve User Experience and update a whistleblower language. We are incorporating practices into the program. So far, this fiscal year, wee have been invited to speak at two conferences regarding fraud hotlines and investigatiinvesti thank you. Liaison report. Yes, ive been working with peter mills jointly with the Whistleblower Program. Since our last committee meeting, peter and i have had a few meetings with mark, steve, and dave. We met twice and we plan to meet on an ongoing regular basis. We will be attending the november 6th webinar that steve just mentioned about credibility and objectivity. We reviewed Quarterly Program reports. Weve been through the reporting process from the side of the reporters, which brought us to website functionality and design and usability. We reviewed some actual whistleblower reports redacted, which brought us to the post reporting survey where we reviewed all responses. The rate of survey responses is quite low, probably to be expected for that kind of thing. Staff have identified a few themes and addressed those concerns by promoting awareness, communication, education and various other things to promote confidence in the program. Peter and i have some things that well be doing in the coming months like meeting with civil service, h. R. Staff, possibly Ethics Commission, but our main focus Going Forward is to pick up where brenda left off. She had suggested engaging an external expert to review the process and staffing and go through the program. So were working to identify an r. F. Q. And budget for that Going Forward. Do you feel after your investigation that, that is really necessary . Do you agree with the review now that you started to become familiar with the Whistleblower Program and dug into a lot of the details. Do you agree thats still required . Yeah, i think its important. Brenda did too. She pushed for it for a long time and peter and i feel it will be well served to do Something Like that and go through the processes and manuals. Just to bring you up to date on that subject, so any comment that you all have now, having heard mark and steves presentation and chivons liaison report will help us when we determine what neck niche we will use for this review. Two things have come up. There are is a tradition in professional practices youre aware in the audit profession of pier reviews where every three years, an Audit Organization has a review done to review their practices and quality of work and gets a finding from three peer reviewers, is that correct . They make site visits and look at those things. Were exploring whether or not that may be an option for the Whistleblower Program. There are some guide lionelilind by from g. A. O. And were looking at whether a Peer Review Program is possible. If its not and there is the options of using one of the providers in our prequalified pool that we hire to do other audit activities, and the scope of work could range from again, it should focus on your interest and any concerns you have. If there are comments now, i would benefit from that. We would try to take those comments and concerns and then put it out to our pool and try to have an attest station engagement from those providers that would fit your interest. Any feedback you can give us would be helpful. I have a couple of questions. I didnt catch you said primarily this is on your slide. Page 11. Percentage of investigative reports. You listed primarily four areas where that were topics of the subject of the report. Yes, so what were they . I didnt catch them all. Sure, we had a bulletin series the past couple of years, and the bulletins were on Construction Materials fraud, supply chain fraud, overtime abuse. Thank you, and my other question was on slide 5, the number of reports received since july 1st, 2012, with the ascending line. I guess you mentioned report, well, it may be due to this or that, and that. But lets figure out what theyre due to, and not may. Is the program more publicized now than it was four years ago . Are managers doing a better job pushing information out to their employees . Are there more city employees, so there will be more whistleblower complaints. I mean thats what struck me in 1819. We seen that line going up. We may have more people working for the city. I think that would be helpful to what may be the cause, and lets figure out what is the cause. Then maybe we can get the line to go down. And i think that was my comment also, that for this external body of work, i think that if we can figure out what a methodology is for determining or evaluating whether theres more chaos in our environment, because i think you did give a couple examples of its better communicated and things like that. Thats one theory, right . Lets figure out, where do we figure out whether our government is made to say more corrupt or have more problems than in the past and when is it that were doing a better job in the Whistleblower Program. Particularly, for this fiscal year, a number of initiatives is about getting the word out even more. Again, i want to make sure we dont just complacently say people know about it more so we got more. I think the goal of this program is to take a pulse of our government, so lets use it that way. If i may, we talked about this during our liaison meeting and i think we identified some reasons why beyond communication and good faith and the program, theres been more reports. I think you guys have a good grip on there may be some instances and one thing happening, and self several reports coming from one situation or people feeling more comfortable to make a report if something has changed in a department. There are some logic to why reporting has gone up. I think that confidence in the program has gone up. We talked about that and communication and continually outreaching to the h. R. Heads has probably been a big reason of that. And thats a good point. If one incident may generate 10 complaints, where usually its 1 complaint, that would skew the numbers too. It may be interesting. Right. I have a couple questions. As a fraud examiner, im excited to see a lot of the stuff. I just i know that numbers arent an absolute measure and i didnt necessarily see in fiscal year, we detected or prevented x dollars of occupational fraud. We estimate. Do you keep track of that . We try to quantify our results whenever possible, just given the nature of some of the instances. Its not always possible. Some of them involve workplace disputes or things that cant be quantified. When theres an opportunity, we usually publish that in our quarterly reports. One other one. As a part of your effort in outreach and education, do you contain obviously it has to be sanitized, but do they have examples specific to what the Whistleblower Program is actually seeing in the city and county of San Francisco so people understand something thats more salient to them. The fraud bulletins are timely with some of the concerns brought to our attention and we try to capture the things that were seeing or that people are trying to report through those bulletins. So thats the reports they make to us as effective for our purposes as possible. Thank you. So i want to remind our members that we are the only governance body for the Whistleblower Program. We take this one really seriously for the parks in particular. They have a commission also. So this is a unique responsibility of ours. One of the things that you said is that you were looking at redacted reports. I feel that we have the authority to look at the actual reports, the whistleblower complaints themselves. Do you feel the need to do that . I dont want to add more risk into the process either, but i wanted to make sure you felt like you were getting as much information as you need. I think if we requested it, we would get it. Peter and i are both new to the committee so we spend a lot of time reviewing the quarterly reports and processes first. We reviewed, im not sure how many redacted reports we reviewed, but to get a sense of education as a whole before we dove deep into those details. We will be diving deeper in the future. Great. Thank you. Thank you for your work. Any other comments . Thanks. Good seeing you guys. Is there any Public Comment on this