Of children with in this neighborhood. Thank you. Hi. My name is with critical resistance. In california united for responsible budget. Thank you so much for holding this hearing. Its really excellent and important to have these opportunities for the public to have time to highlight the really practical and already existing opportunities we have two estimates of yesterday derail this train which is the crisis of imprisonment or turn the train. So, i just want to draw some attention, i think the smoke and mirrors of the Sheriffs Department is spinning by saying its possible for them to be running alternative programs. I want to just remind you all, when you talk about alternatives to talk about alternatives that are not inside jails and prisons. Is not a Mental Health j. Not Community Programs in a jail setting. That investment and imprisonment. When they present these charts about how much theyre doing that is alternative those are jails. So, the robust Community Programs that include electronic pretrial monitoring that pushes the burden of nine dollars per week to these families do we know already are struggling economically struggling to make bail. It raises. His classes. Is doing incredible economic violence could so, when they talk about that they have the capacity or will to do alternatives those are not alternatives. Those are turning homes into prisons making families be the guards. Then, i just want to highlight also the controllers report is not natural. Those numbers are not natural is everyones been saying we must go to all see in public investment. While the Police Department increase is going to be a policy that is going to be driving more people to jail, who all have to be investing in things that are going to counter that. With samba, neither san bruno nor San Francisco want to get we dont you just. We cant afford just bit the resistance in san bruno is his people are crying and mining alternatives. Thank you. Hello. Minus. Java transit admin and a graduate researcher, University Way focus on lgbt people and the criminal Justice System. From my familiarity with the research got some data around 10 people in this dig the most, he said its an untrained expense in the United States of the National Transgender determination survey in its 2011 report showed 6 of transgender people have been sent to jail or prison. Which rates exams higher than the rate of incarceration in the general population. We all know the people of color are disproportionately targeted and harmed by incarceration. Trans identity compounds distances washington 41 of factors people 20 of latino trans people reported experiences of incarceration that are even higher than the description of likelihood of incarceration are black and latino people generally. To the research ive been doing in San Francisco, i see the National Trend rainout on a local level to an even greater degree. In a recent interview with attractive Health Programs for trans people i learned that 80 of the trans woman she serves reported being arrested in the past year. In several interviews Service Providers have said that about programming in the jail because some of the clients end up there i can remain in contact with people any other way. National research in medical research and San Francisco says trans people are being impacted and harmed by police incarceration at such a crisis disaster rates. It also shows trans people are more like to be homeless and living in poverty to be neither work and be barred social services because of staff bias and discrimination. When the talk about jail Investment Services we are talking about the same people in the difference is whether or not you believe their lives have value. Im strongly opposed to the very idea of a Mental Health jail facility since we know the attempts for preservation create serious Mental Health issues. I cant investment in social services and Community Organizations led by formally incarcerated trans people. Are you going to construct the jail to amplify inequalities or invest in services [inaudible] thank you. Hi. My name isim with critical business need our state. The sheriff got 5 min. Asked to speak the departments are under different rules. Theyre not limited to dump and ashley asked them to limit the time even though thats not the protocol. Some i apologize for that. My point is just wondering whose time matters . Basket photos here, missing people, the same powers were trying to disrupt to testify. They rely on themselves for answers because they are the only power they recognize. Where the People Living alternatives everyday . Whether people just have this ballot no punishment system not only as an act of the fines but also an active survival . Why they called on to testify . Is a Single Person currently in prison actively asked to talk about what they in the communities need more than a fancy jail . We are asking the best in alternatives and literally mean an investment. To be Clear Alternatives great social solutions. Its not a oneoff it into a nt video only to refill it later down on. Committed an concerted effort to maintain alternatives to make sure theyre sufficiently resourced and shake ourselves of our reliance cages to solve problems. A fraction of the effort being used to push this gel product before to get Free Education to folks make Affordable Housing accessible to everyday to make sure people get jobs, to put [inaudible] so may people advocated for today, than the jail would already be emptied and shattered today. I just would end on if you dont love us outside of cages and how can be expected to love us in cages . Invest in alternatives, not in cages. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to fund your comment. I agree we dont have a very good system that we hear from the public and our department. Of course, we get unlimited time to speak at these hearings. So, we try to do best we can. Theyre more members of the public. We have thought about having the community do a longer presentation but it was a question of who and which voice. Its a very i would want to acknowledge you brought up some good points. I think we try and to run the hearings the best we can. I am janey with [inaudible]. To be honest im also [inaudible] that the shares of him does to speak they are not the voice sterling youre looking for. Anyway, the joes currently at 70 capacity and this is nothing to the need for a new job. Anything do with the fact the Police Department is currently going through the process hiring 400 new officers, 250 in the new next fiscal year. More officers mean more or less of the people that criminalizing. Yesterday, supervisor tang said associate with these dangerous people are the real danger lies with the jail. Tonight about addressing about. When 80 of people in cages are not able to afford their jail that is danger. When 50 are black that White Supremacy is danger. When one into black women expense imprisonment in her life that antiblack and that transmit jogs in the transphobia is dangerous. If its all happening and San Francisco. If you are talk danger, the site if its all happening and San Francisco. If you are talk danger, the site about july 10 through one of the deadliest months in the history due to Police Violence we are hiring 400 new police office. As i was in a blanket a black woman was found dead on monday, two days after she entered the jail in texas. This committal Justice System is whats creating and perpetuating the danger the poverty and the right to promise that just can never be humane or saved because jail facilities are actually cages and cages can provide Mental Health care. With bill reform and printout the version and Affordable Housing, with confident resources and organizations who actually know how to heal our communities and help them thrive, you can invest in community and invest in alternatives to this gel. Otherwise youre going to perpetuate White Supremacy and poverty and danger that youre purporting to care about. Show us that you care. Thank you. Thank you. Im going to call the remaining speaker cards i have. I. Hi. Im a retired myth. I didnt San Francisco 40 years. This morning i was reading the san quentin news and came across this paragraph from the New York Times study. It is a measure of the deep disparities that continue to afflict black man disparities after recent spate of killings by the police. The times reported perhaps the starkest description of the situation is this. More than one out of every six black men who today should be between 25 and 40 years old have disappeared from daily life. Well, we want them back. Its not just African American men, latinos, youth, trans people, people with mental owners, parents make between 40 and 59 of the jails and whose families and children are traumatized. In addition to their own, being in jail. People are homeless, people with Substance Abuse with issues. Im a nurse so i see things from a standpoint of what is the wellbeing and the wellbeing is the only way is to get people out of jail and into the communities. Many people have brought up the alternatives, supportive housing, caregroup open transitional housing, mental treatment that focuses on the abuse and trauma that people have had to deal with probably all their lives. In addition to being in jail. Inpatient and outpatient treatment reuniting families, Substance Abuse treatment, education, do you know about is in University Project and others recidivism has gone down precipitously with education in outpatient in the community alternatives. Texas, actually, has decided to focus on Mental Health issues and Substance Abuse and that eight times lower recidivism than people who are not in these programs. Good afternoon. My name is katya under with all of us ordered and Legal Services with children. We are daily correspondence with incarcerated people and formerly incarcerated people i can tell you these mothers, fathers, sons and daughters they face unimaginable barriers to entry in the chance of starting over means a meaningful chance to good housing, good education, good healthcare. Things that as discussed are a most impossible for the rest of us. Really impossible for this extremely vulnerable population. It makes a Pretty Simple in reducing resident means Reentry Services like those we talked about pretrial diversion, and not a new jail. So, please, that many family suffering at the hands of our criminal Justice System. Dont build more case. Lets bring people home, instead. Thank you. Hello. My name is kevin intern with Legal Services for prisoners with children. So, theres been a lot of talk today and a lot of numbers thrown about about production of the teachers future jail population but the fact is regardless of what the most accurate estimate is, if you build a new jail it will get filled. By building a new jail you effectively kill the political pressure to find alternatives. Whereas, if you dont build it you give the government an incentive to reduce the jail population. They will find a way to free people if only out of necessity. So, i like to cite one of the examples of where the pressure has went. We see weasley last week new york finally announce that due to their Overburdened Court system they are going to the releasing many bogus offenders regardless of their ability to pay. The debut referring of 18 million [inaudible] to pale up to 3000 lowrisk event these are people being detained not based on the risk they pose to the community but rather based on the fact that they are poor and they cant pay dell. There is a high six race right in queens with the Program Began about six years ago he 7 of dependence return to complete requirement. This is following many other cities that already begun to do this. We see in cities in kentucky and oregon the bar started moving away from her alliance on money bail. This keeps people from being stuck in jail and losing access to work, school, and family. Things which further destabilize people and encourage them to recidivism good i guess what im saying, theres so many alternatives that people have opposed to you today and i think they could go on and on and on about the good bike he said at the beginning of this meeting, is a really exciting opportunity. We shall be excited about. To think we got jails would work there be is 0 resume thats clearly not the case that the really exciting opportunity by the alternatives really urge you to take. Thank you. From the please standpoint, the criminal Justice System the offense [inaudible]. Even capital punishment, like in singapore this too much personal sacrifice. [inaudible]. Well make some sacrifice. [inaudible] for some individuals they cannot [inaudible] i know we should struggle for true freedom [inaudible] thank you. Hello. Thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak. Is i to remind everyone that we are in a stark amount. Are in a stark amount. Historical mo there was a time when peop would debate whether or not it would be suitable to abolish institution of slavery. Today at that time were as confined to the target people talk about more humane [inaudible] to that response oscar wilde in his book how should the worst slaveowners were those that were kind to their slaves. When were talking about the creation of the Mental Health gel facilities in the context of mass incarceration in the context of 1. 5 million black men in the context of the mass imprisonment enslavement of black people by another name, we should remember what i just talked about the Mental Health of people in joes, would talk about legitimacy to a system of slavery. So, thank you thank you. See no further Public Comment i would request the close button, and at this time on his hearing. Would you like to table or continue i was going to make okay. No more Public Comment of the comment is now closed. [gavel] thank you chairman yee bawsca offer the floor to Committee Members to make comments and therell be making a motion. Motion to continue the item. Again, thank you supervisor yee for allowing us to hold this hearing. Today. It was definitely very informative. Clearly, a lot of very passionate people who have been actively engaged in trying to support moving toward more alternatives. I truly appreciate working with supervisor kim on this issue. Its a really important issue to me in making sure that our smart about how we address this issue in the future. I just still have not been given anything to indicate there are just really a need to just focus on the plan that the city is bringing before us. The plan to just build a jail. As far as im concerned its not sufficient. I think that i know theres been time invested. I know theres been money invested, but just because the been time and money invested, doesnt mean we have to move forward. Ultimately, we have to make sure that we are thinking about the future, with thing about the actual population that we want to serve and how we can better serve them so that we can really work toward a zero recidivism rate. I know that one of the challenges that im experiencing is unfortunately, growing up in the city, a lot of my friends and family members were locked up good some of them are now getting out of jail looking for employment opportunity, and it not necessarily gotten a lot of support for educational opportunities, employment opportunities, while they were incarcerated. They dont want to go back to the life that they once had. When we were young. They want to work. They want to get be a productive member of society but when you dont give them the tools, then you dont provide them with the support, then what happens is oftentimes sadly, people go back to what they know how to do. I dont want to see that happen. I dont want this either go in the first place, which means we have a lot of work to do in the city to make sure that the programs which we have a lot of in San Francisco that are getting a significant amount of money to provide support to young people early on that they are doing their job so that we dont see our young people headed to the prison system early in the first place. Sadly, this is a cycle and its beenthis is a problem in our city and has been a cycle, reports, in my family. I want to see the cycle broken. I want to see lives changed and i want to make sure that we are smart and responsible about how we look at rebuilding a [inaudible] and i dont think building a standalone jill is the right approach. I think we had to think about again, the population. We have to think about trying to make sure that we do this right number so that we can do a better job and this is just, like i said, its not the way. I will continue to work with the department, continue to explore alternatives. One of the alternatives that i think we should look at, this place is called the hall of justice. If we want to create a real hall of justice, and we want to look at a way in which we can completely rebuild this hall of justice so that this hall of justice does not only supports the people who work in this building supports the support systems, but also the people who await trial or the people who are waiting for pretrial diversion, were all the other alternative programs that we ought. So, i think we need to look at building a program that supports the population that we are here to serve. I definitely want to continue the conversation and exploring alternatives, continue the conversation in making sure that we prepared a better plan. This is just not a great plan and i do think we need to really really explore alternatives that make sense for the future of our city and that really reflect our values as a city. So, that may wrap up my thoughts. First of all, i want to thank supervisor kim and president greed for bringing this to this committee for a hearing. I think there is a lot of different perspectives here and Different Solutions and so forth. First of all as they mentioned already, the surest apartment has been done a better job in a lot of places in regards to inmates and trying to have programs that are helping inmates adjust when they do come back. My first exposure of course, was on the school board i went to visit san bruno and to sports the five keys charter in which the district charter and i think that these issues are very complex. This many issues discussed today. There is the need, whether we do need additional space, bed space, to renovate the jails or not, theres issues of why people are getting into these situations. Is it really fair or not there quacks these are issues, at least in my circle, have been in discussion for five decades. Or more. One of the things ive dedicated my life to is the prevention and many people come up here and having been in that situation where were talking about well if we work with youngsters at an early age in which they also have similar opportunities whether in preschool or in the school district, where k12, this is where i wouldve to put more resources and as my colleagues know, ive been fighting for that to make sure that folks do have an opportunity to send their kids to preschool so that they dont slip right when they get into kindergarten. So, theres many ways to look at this and im really happy that i had the opportunity to hear additional perspectives on this. Its opened up my thinking a little bit. Im still open to how i want to approach this particular issue. So, again, i want to thank my colleagues on this committee for bringing this hearing. Thank you very much. Thank you chairman yee. Actually, i just at the moment to note all three of us used to run these programs youth advocacy work served on the board of supervisors and i think all of us actually have visited either county jail or juvenile justice to visit a number of our youth program. So, i think were all intimately aware of a lot of the experience associated with it. I just wanted take a moment to thank and acknowledge the leadership of pres. Reid on this issue. Its been a real pleasure working with you and your office. Connor johnson, as we look at really not either just rebuilding of jail or expanding the job however you want to look at it but we thinking and reimagining the system. We are at this point in this country and actually even this morning, speaker weiner announced that he wants to look at prison and criminal justice reform. President obama the first sitting president ever to visit a federal prison and to call into question whether these policies are still working. San francisco can be behind. Weve always been ahead on these discussions that we should continue to keep up with what is happening throughout the country. State legislatures throughout the country even red states, are reexamining our mass incarceration system and questioned whether it keeps our community safer. Whether its with the taxpayer expenses, whether were getting the results and outcomes we had hoped for in the 80s and 90s when we really begin down this kind of downward trend of mass incarceration. Its actually a very very exciting conversation that i will make sure San Francisco is ahead, that were not just looking up at forgery because a year or two year ago the Capital Committee of the city decided this is what we should be doing. We have not done it yet. It many opportunities to really expand the conversation. I know the Controllers Office and others have suggested we convene a committee of these very various departments and Committee Stakeholders so were looking at every possible alternative as president breed mentioned it recently great ideas presented by the public defenders office, the district attorney, department of public health, adult probation,. We have to look at examining bill reform. Is a moneybased bell system really the future of our criminal Justice System . Should we look at increasing our electronic monitoring quacks do we look at the capacity of our Pretrial Diversion Program under our Sheriffs Department . And really look at the data. Our jail population to kind 35 while the city population increase. So, is it about statement to say that the city continues to go will need more jail beds . The current data doesnt actually demonstrate that. So i think this is an important conversation get under that San Francisco is part of it. I really viewed this point in time as an opportunity. We have such an opportunity to really be examined the system and really think about where these dollars are best spent etc. Million dollars is nothing to cop at. We need to make sure investing it back wisely because were making a commitment as a policy body tuesday were making the city as safe as it can be. Lets make sure when we put those dollars and are actually committed to our promise in our commitments. So, i want to they call that a part of the team to present today. Very thoughtful presentation. I look forward to working with everyone. Also, all their committee staplers that of accident at all involved in this issue for years been working on this hearing in of itself i believe for the last six months compiling all the data and statistics and stories. To put together. I look forward to the continued work with pres. Reids office, and so gauche and my own the committee