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Agreeing isnt salyut a shim its all right stop the count dont stop the count the election is a fraud this is a democracy at its finest yes those were the cries that have dominated the political noise and rhetoric coming from all corners of the democrat republican water bearers of this historic election week as the United States of america begins to move forward into whatever new future this election has shaped or wrought depending on your opinion and while former Vice President joe biden appears appears to have wrapped up a very narrow victory thanks to mail in voting in the time of cope with that that hasnt stopped my friends that hasnt stopped our brand name and cheap us President Donald Trump from crying foul we think we will win the election very easily we think theres going to be a lot of litigation as we have so much evidence so much proof and its going to end perhaps that the highest court in the land will see what we think theyll be a lot of litigation because we cant have an election still in the like this and i tell you i would i have been going about this for many months for the all of you and i have said very strongly that 1000000 ballots are going to end up being a disaster so yes there is donald once again declaring that this fight for the white house between our 2 geriatric leaders could end up in a legal battle on the floor of the Supreme Court democracy at its finest so what is the wave of litigation is that trump and his supporters are counting on well vioxx reports that the Trump Campaign has filed a wave of lawsuits seeking to make marginal changes to the procedures governing ballot counting but nearly all of these suits involve such minor disputes that its unclear what trump stands to gain even if he prevails in court and as far as the Supreme Court. Concerned so far the Associated Press reports that the Trump Campaign also seeking to intervene in a pennsylvania case at the Supreme Court that deals with whether ballots received up to 3 days after the election can be counted interestingly most legal experts have said that none of these kinds of cases could potentially overturn the election but for those of us who lived through the great bush versus gore debacle of the year 2000 with the Supreme Court ultimately took the presidency out of the hands of the voters and handed it over to the partisan waters we remain on edge and always watching the hawks. If you will whats going on on a city street you want to be there so you. See this as this you always still see a. Great city desolate systemic deceptions show which. Some things are just as. Well theyre going to watching the hawks i am tire opened and im in the crowd and joining us to discuss the postelection legal and political fist fight for the presidency is the codirector of the National Grassroots Election Protection coalition professor and journalist journalist Harvey Wasserman thank you so much for joining us harvey it could be a hero of your mind thank you always nice to hear so professor wasserman you and many others have been sounding the alarm on the potential for a legally or politically hijacked election outcome for quite some time after hearing President Donald Trump invoke the Supreme Court once again this week are your fears and concerns becoming a reality. Well we got to see because if you taste it it was 654 thats why they pressed for that seat d insert and you know hes got 3 tax but you know he has lost this election by more than 3000000 votes he he lost by substantially more than a loss in 2016 and thankfully this year the Electoral College votes are lining up differently than they didnt 2016 but you know weve got to get rid of that Electoral College thats one of the reasons we convened our grassroots Election Protection coalition i think hes done i think hes such an outrageous and ridiculous character that the powers that be are not going to keep him in there but the important thing to remember is that he lost the popular vote by well over 3000000 votes in any sane actual democracy we wouldnt be talking about undecided election the elections over us by 3000000 votes as it stands so i mean and you know bush in 2000 allowed to be all we won by you know if. He actually lost by 500000 what happened in florida should never have happened and what happened 2016 should never have happened downtown should never been the white house so weve got to get rid of the Electoral College you got to get with kerry and bring one good thing after in the selection very big deal is that almost all the ballots were on paper you know because that one good thing that came from the go of it is that we had a giant spread of hope by mail which is a really big step forward for democracy and made a big difference and also because older people like myself didnt go into the polls to work we had a major generational shift and they had millions of well thousands of no ideals and generational z. Kids came out to work the polls a great education and democracy this will change the nature of our country so but it turns of paper ballots big step forward because. In the last 20 years ive been doing using i where trying to go to machines to steal the vote you know push and pray now at least we have a paper ballots that are just going to help those who are most affluent and those are all really good points i like the Transition Team you know the people who are actually involved but at the polls this go around versus you know weve seen over 10 aeration before you touch on 2000 and thats something that weve heard back and forth in media lately what are some of the ways the losing party which in this case now appears to be president dollar trump could still essentially steal this election away from joe biden and the democrats should we be worried about a repeat of gore versus bush in 2000 weve already seen so many legal challenges. Yes absolutely because 1st or they stole for this year i mean they disenfranchise one more than a 1000000 excellence who the people of florida voted and said ok you can vote and then the legislature the gerrymandered register if you stepped in in scenario cant vote or if you pay your fees and you cant even find out how much you owe edges d if those people had voted in florida. Trump would not have carried forward 4 was stolen this year again and for gods sakes hopefully when 40 years we can correct that i think gerrymandering has got to go but this year tactically you know the way the constitution is written the state legislatures choose the electrophoresis to the Electoral College to choose the president there is actually no mention in because the 2 sion of the right of the people to vote directly on the president quite the opposite in fact 478921860 there was a transition the legislatures chose the president there but then by 860 the they were following the lead of the public that legally the legislatures have the right to choose the ork doors and if trump had not been such a raving lunatic it could happen again this year but i dont think hes got the. Or to pull it off you have to have some kind of public support when he loses an election by 33 and a half 1000000 votes and behave the way hes behaved i dont think he can pull it off but legally he can do it you know its interesting because you mentioned a few things that number one like you know giving a little bit Electoral College or try agree with or what what can we do to better protect our voting and democratic processes from getting it you know legally or illegally hijacked by one or both of our dominant political parties. Well ive read a history book getting i states about that actually had a history United States raid a published called this people spiral of u. S. History this summer and then i had Bernie Sanders saving the world but that thats not going to happen then so we get the history of the Electoral College its ridiculous you know Alexander Hamilton came up with this he was a minor because basically he did now and the public to choose the president was so far beyond that we need to get rid of the Electoral College we need get need to get rid of gerrymandering we need to have great Choice Voting paper ballots and a reliable Action System we also there was also another big step forward this year not much talked about but the a lot of the n. B. A. National Basketball Association i read this were used for voting and its a huge step forward you have to have people on these lines people could come in their restaurants or d this food safety thats it theyre very big success this year 20 a basketball arenas a couple of football stadiums you know in kansas city and charlotte very very good good stuff that number one get rid of the Electoral College number 2 get rid of gerrymandering these are the things that are really killing our democracy thats how we wound up in states like michigan and wisconsin pennsylvania and North Carolina with extreme right wing republican legislatures in states that are evenly divided ohio. For gods sakes at 5050 democrat republican state the state legislature is a super majority republican and as is the congressional delegation and thats what one of the reasons our government is so unresponsive is because these people get these seats in the in the state legislatures and congress and theyre completely safe because theyre not competitive elections where its actually been improved as California California has a very good Redistricting Commission which is non partisan or by multi parties and actually and in 20062008 both the wedges from each and the congressional delegations were put under control of this district the commission and guess who funded it Arnold Schwarzenegger choice nader put 3000000. 00 of his own dollars in for a statewide campaign that was successful and thank you arnold you know for for helping students auto for the rest of it and over the next 4 years if we can win state referenda and maybe even get federal legislation get rid of this gerrymandering thing will again take a big step toward democracy were good good folks like you out there fighting for theirs and educating the public id truly do believe that we will hopefully see this in the near future and i and its funny they never mention alexander the monarchist in the much popular play i have to thank you so much or had he was also he was also bisexual by the way that they have that actually are rivaling abbess thank you so much for coming on to present us with one pleasure having you on the finally. If the great monologues great way to wake up. Have a great days are. You 2. Has the democrats and republicans continue to fight over ballots votes election observers and who makes the Better Coffee on election day one go to controversy that has been thankfully left to the sidelines of 2020 as postelection fight for the white house has been accusations of foreign election meddling or interference unliked. 1016. 00 which saw cries of foreign meddling dom meddling dominating the headlines but hey lets not forget 2020 is not over yet donald is desperate for excuses at this point there is art to americas alex mahela bridge with an indepth look at the hypocrisy surrounding United States peers of foreign election meddling especially given our own sort of history on the matter. From ukraine. To venezuela. For decades the us has been accused of interfering in elections around the globe while insisting that other state out of its voting process but ill give you a present from one that is a building standard that they present when they meddle in the internal affairs of other countries where they do not respect the electoral rules of those countries such as what happened in bolivia such as what has happened in venezuela where we are an example in terms of electoral matters u. S. Security Officials Say that there has been no foreign meddling detected in americas current president ial vote a stark contrast to just weeks ago when u. S. Intelligence accused russia any ran of interfering in the election well things are supposedly above board in the us vote the same cant be said for elections in countries where america has been involved bolivia is a prime example of that a nation that just recently democratically elected a new government after the us imposed its will a year ago. What occurred its nothing to be surprised about we also won last year and when democracy didnt serve their purpose they carried out a coup detat the us is accused of helping a right wing interim government take control of bolivia in october of 2019 at least 35 people died in related incidents from Campaign Financing to violent coups someone say the us is the biggest election meddler of them all dove levon a political scientist who conducted an indepth analysis of election meddling told usa today the us has intervened in the most elections between 1906 to 2081 elections in total this includes well known cases in guatemala and the rand in the 1950 s. And in chile in nicaragua in the seventys and eightys. More recent campaigns up to the 2000 election in serbia where the United States openly funded a movement to defeat president Slobodan Milosevic approach in afghanistan where the u. S. Failed to remove him meet karzai from power as well as everything from simple funding to revolutions in places like ukraine kenya and lebanon the list goes on one of the most publicized examples of u. S. Interference in recent years happened in that as well a United States recognize the Opposition Leader one wide open as venezuelas interim president ignoring that countrys 2018 Election Results in which president Nicolas Maduro was reelected even though some may be questioning just how democratic americas elections are many outsiders are insisting that the process must be allowed to run its course according to the laws of the United States at the same time they hope that the u. S. Will give other nations the same respect for our t. V. Im alex myla bitch. All right were going to recommend that you can also start watching the hawks and other r. T. Programming on demand for the brand new portable t. V. Which is supportable to the upper the variable on all platforms with that play download it check it out all right coming up we talked about the massive amounts of money spent on this election with the cohost of by any means necessary a radio spot meant jack a look and so stay tuned for watching the fox you go on with. The or tactics that can be used to get innocent people to confess to crimes they didnt commit even think people in the us really get that the police are allowed to lie to the person who falsely confessed actually came to believe the lie that they were told about their own behavior once a false confession is taken the case is closed and nobody really can tell the difference between a good confession and one that isnt. Seemed wrong. Just dont. Let me. Get to shape out does this come as a kid and engagement equals the trail. When so many find themselves worlds apart. She says to look for common ground. During the vietnam war us forces also. There was a secret war. And for years the American People did not know. How much it is especially the most heavily bombed country per capita. Human history millions of unexploded bombs still in danger lives in this Small Agricultural country Jordyn Wieber went on to another topic that even today kids in laos full victims of bombs dropped decades ago is the u. S. Making amends for that tragedy and what helped to the people need in that little land on. The 2020 alexion is coming to a close america could have a president announce before the end of the day but that likely wont come without legal challenges and a fight to prove vote by mail as project that all heralded by the Truck Campaign this election seemingly has lasted longer than a lifetime and amid the backdrop of a pandemic the competition for the white house only intensified unlike most countries america is known for a long paying thinking long president ial campaign. And for all the time and money spent on attack ads knocking on doors sending mail or calling people and using social media to change minds campaigns are high dollar events in fact the 20 president ial election was a whopper of worker setting proportions this president ial election cost 14000000000. 00 it is singularly the most expensive election in history and twice the cost of the 2016 president ial election breaking it down even with many unemployed and suffering from the weight of covert 192020 solemn more individual donations to campaigns in other years women in particular just kept giving and the donations were often sit the candidates from out of state. Democrats definitely went above and beyond blowing past republican election spending margins Democratic Candidates and groups spent 6900000000 dollars between super pacs big business individual giving and a strong sense of urgency following the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg democrats got the money machine rolling and here to break down those money bags in the 2020 campaign is jack a whoop cohost of by any means necessary welcome. I think for having me while checking the fundraising structure in 2020 for the president ial race this has been very strong especially considering it continued to grow even after the pandemic hit what do you think are some of the driving factors and the biggest influence its. Just the fact that the us political system itself is a form of political socialism and people giving to campaigns. Dont get that they they believe that you know least candidates come begging for money that you know they have to support them in order to save them from the other candidate who is also begging another group of people for money to save them from other candidates and most americans dont understand that the entire Campaign Finance system in this country is a massive financial rest of the American People but it is so into the political process that the money that is spent so obscure it really does a good job of hiding that so people believe that theyre funding better policies for themselves only really theyre just being ripped off by these politicians when you look at these numbers over 14000000000. 00 a massive amount of money to be spent on political campers and immediately my mind kind of goes to what else could we have gotten for 14000000000. 00 going to look at. Theres been a lot of talk about removing money from politics but if 2020 is any indication that isnt going to happen anytime soon not at that kind of numbers i was curious could you explain kind of that the strength stronghold in the breakdown of individual donations from citizens versus you know Political Action Committee Spending and why one is you know why a Political Actions would make so much more devastating to our political process. I mean your average american citizen really doesnt have a whole lot of money to give to individual candidates even though you know collectively well when individual people get like 27. 00 you know say bernie to Bernie Sanders campaign yes when millions of individual people can give that amount of money to a candidate who is advocating for policies that will improve the material conditions of the people who are contributing to their campaign thats one thing but were talking about Political Action committees that can represent corporate interests that are Companies Large Companies Like amazon and over and you know fossil fuel industries that pay these companies to advocate for issues that a lot of them to legally fewer taxes to pay people less money to reduce peoples benefits so that workers are taking away less money and less secure. Existence in this country then you see the outsized influence of money and politics its not that individual people are giving too much money to politicians its that massive corporations that have enormous endless amounts of money to literally buy policy and politicians have much more influence and power and politics than your average you know mala who wants medicare for all scraping together 27. 00 every 2 or 3 months to give to a Bernie Sanders campaign and deck a at the beginning of a president ial campaign 5 gold trump and the Republican National committee out one rave and outspend democrats but there was a huge shift after the summer and moreover in the fall we saw a large surge of donations for Democratic Candidates not only in the president ial race but also infinite and other down ballot races. What do you think are some of the think you are events or groups of events that contributed to the giving shift in that time frame i know we saw a black lives matter but what are some of the things that you would say really shifted the scales from trump giving to a lot more democratic giving. I think the way to trump it ministration handled the pandemic really rubbed a lot of. Conservatives dont know its absolutely the wrong way and i dont want to give these people any credit for being you know or old in any way was just bad optics when bob woodward came out with the recording which admitted that he knew that the virus was much more serious than it was that it was deadly from the beginning and he intentionally lied to the American People were all against white to keep their lies like that under cover so that was a really bad p. R. Move for the g. O. P. In their conservative donors and i mean the death toll among people who were up some who were succumbing to the fire was virus was rising the trumpet ministration was due to new and detail playing it it didnt look good for the republicans so they they really really didnt want to be seen continuing to fund that type of open everest toward the American People i think for the republican money machine of the republican donors that was the singular. Turning point for them already in trouble with their money we got a little bit of time left Lloyd Bob Simmons but i want to ask you in this 11th the most important question of all how do we wrestle control of corporate money impact money away from these 2 parties if we even care and get you know the donations if theres always going to be political donations but how do we get it out of the hands of corporations and back into the hands of the people who are belongs. I mean the 1st answer people always give this to overturn Citizens United that people need to think understand that the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of corporate spending and politics well before since its united in the 800 s. There was a similar a Supreme Court case that ruled that you know corporations can spend whatever they want and political campaigns i think the number one thing we can do is to really establish working class solidarity among working class poor and oppressed people in this country and unite Work Together up biting for our interests collective interests as the working class the need for a simple war against the ruling class and the and percent of the one percent of the elite yes they temper set the one percent absolutely control 80 percent of the find that the stock market in this country but the rest of us the 99 percent we absolutely have the power to do Everything Else if we do that and that is the fight that we will continue to fight and that you continue to fight everybody on your radio show thank you so much for joining us drucker lumen always a pleasure having you on them thanks so much for having me. 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