By their very good afternoon kevin i would really just turn four in the afternoon this every snowy afternoon here in moscow hope your weekend is going good im afraid though its not good news that were starting with here as far as russia is concerned a passenger plane with sixty five passengers and six crew on board has crashed in the last hour or so just outside moscow about fifty kilometers away from where im talking to you now just minutes after it took off details still very sketchy. Brought us the latest of what we knew twenty minutes ago but the situation is fast changing. Its a two hour flight these are these are done you know these are flown every day multiple times nothing out of the ordinary but we now have reports that witnesses saw reportedly this is unverified but this is what were seeing from various news sources witnesses saw a flaming aircraft crash it disappeared seven minutes after takeoff from damage ahead of the airport just seven minutes after takeoff it disappeared from radar ive got to mention the weather in moscow its been awful atrocious this past week or so very Poor Visibility moscow was absolutely buried the city was paralyzed. More its on his way there now as say the weather in moscow at the im sure youve seen the headlines has been extremely slow of the past week or so it seems they can only get to the crash site by foot online gerri so yes man independent aviation consultant gerri thanks for coming on such short notice we appreciate it as you say with all these things details very sketchy in the early stages we are expecting to hear more details coming in over the next hour or so it doesnt sound like its a good scene there just looking on twitter it seems that this flight number six w. Seven o three on route from domodedovo airport course one of moscows main three airports to a place called all skids near the kazakstan border pretty much in central southern russia it looks like it fell off the radar screens at about six thousand four hundred feet thats what they call the initial climb i guess its still climbing isnt it up point yes i mean it will be. So this is still in the blank range. As saw the recordings of some of the past thats going to. Websites it does look like there were some intermediate lines and. It doesnt see the six thousand six thousand feet and many. Of the recordings its their lunch so its still a bit questionable what really happened. Could be so many causes but i suppose one of the first causes you think about i mean snow isnt particularly a problem for a plane if its if its been the ice properly. No reason to think that hasnt happened on whatever airport a very busy airport very professional airport. Talking about the climb again were just speculating until we get some details in but talking about the climb it is a potentially tricky time for a plane when those engines are all much power all it takes is one of those turbines to brake is it time again but it should necessarily bring the plane down should it. A single engine failure not bring the plane down even a double failure should have enough time for the crew to not decide it. And its possible find a place to put it down to pull the aircraft down and in a more of a controllable fashion but you know and you know the reports saying that you know unlikely people who survive we can suspect that its really trying to impact the ministry was right. In general looking at the flight path tell us a bit more about what it would have put a few things so far than in your initial investigation into this. Well its a normal. Six thousand four hundred also but it never stayed and. Thats when it started to have a descent and then. Last week there we have it on record and it looks like it all depends on what the crash scene looks like i guess very early but the investigators you assume as they get to that site theyll be able to work out depending on the spread of whether the plane sort of broke up in the air whether or whether it broke up as it as it crashed of course of course very much with the full of family and friends of the passengers on the crew the if youre just joining us this is r. T. International got jerry on the line here. Going to stay with us hopefully for another couple of minutes as we try to take this apart a bit more but just to tell our viewers the headline here its flight number six w seven o three its a surat of Airlines Passenger plane that took off earlier this afternoon from domodedovo airport one of moscows three main airports very busy airport two it was an internal flight. And we believe it crashed around fifty to sixty kilometers south east of moscow we think it only got to about six thousand four hundred feet thats a similar type of plane an antonov you see the screens the one for eight jerry an antonov one for a. Russian planes. Till about a decade ago were problematic thinking about the top of one five falls the top of one of three falls theyve largely been phased out now certainly dont see many of them in europe there are many. Russian carriers using them now for one as well as being a bit unreliable towards the end they burned a lot of fuel so most of the Russian Companies now the internal companies they use airburst they use boeings they use them as this one slightly different is it the russian plane or cranium plane in a n one four eight. Its expose. It is pretty it was up until a few years ago its produced in the ukraine and also in russia. And then. So it doesnt stop producing things last year. Its not fifty inservice most more in russia anymore they say anything new design yeah it is it is a new design its you know and then of claim is it comes off. On how modern it is to the western counterparts it is fly by wire aircraft just at the end was this but again we discussed also one of the types that was. The russia and the ukraine hooked on to in commercial success and also the era this is the one you call the Second Generation and doing a quick wiki search on it ironic that last year was branded the safest year to fly wasnt it twenty seventeen i think this is for us and i want the first plane crashes we believe so far this year sadly its happened here in russia and it does look like all sixty five passengers and crew have perished but weve yet to confirm so weve got a crew at in there now what do you know about this Company Surat off airlines they were part of air flight at one stage to be going for a long while since nine hundred thirty one there was a bit of a security a safety concern about that about a year or so ago but it seems that was overkill mia. Yeah again this is one of those what we what we outside we call one of the small Russian Airlines but as you know past two thousand and ten and you know the you know we would say survivors would have had it well to you know to to live on and if this back ten years ago you know were going to brand this questionable operations but. This is we are now in the us consulate race in iraq so it and its one of the Russian Airline industry so. And interestingly enough most all of their acura except for their one so most of the aircraft. Have been. The russians they do operate about. When theyre beginning to introduce the umbrella want to be right now doesnt you know there is the west and there is research. Interest and also the antonov one eight. Rates i think its the ones that. Operate in that and its just not the nature of which in this case was looking at this through this play while youre talking and doing a quick wiki check and elsewhere it looks like there wouldnt have been if there was an accident in its development of sudan but twenty eleven but it looks like the been no other fate no no or the fatal accidents of the plane over the years since then over the last decade or so since it was brought in around. Two thousand and four that plane first took to the skies testing gerri were going to leave it for now gerri so your money dependent aviation consultant thanks again for coming on short notice and telling us what you know about this plane that the this airline as well if you just joined us this is out international monitors kevin oh in this one story starting to dominate our coverage now this hour a plane with seventy one passengers and crew on board has crashed shortly after it took off from moscow zzzzz International Domodedovo Airport its nansen off as you just heard one four eight plane operated by a Company Called sarratt off airlines at the time it took off for about two oclock this afternoon local time was heading to or sket the city close to the russian border with kazakstan basically heading southeast from moscow i when this is reportedly say they saw the plane on fire before it went there reportedly sixty five passengers and six crew on board if youre concerned about Friends Family loved ones passengers or crew that we believe the flight number is six w. Seven zero three once again that flight number of the plane involved here is six w seven o three. The rattle of airlines internal flight today from moscow to southeast russia emergency teams have reached the crash site now its about fifty sixty kilometers from moscow but bad weather here at the moment theres been heavy snow over the last week or so they are reporting bodies on the ground at the moment one eyewitness is according to one News Agency Interfax saying that there is little hope for any of the crew and the passengers there we are yet to cooperate that were sending our Senior Correspondent or a galaxy of the news on his way its going to take a while because the weather is pretty bad and as you just heard you cant totally get there by car so joining us to be on foot weve got crews going there now where of course going to be the prime challenge to bring you up to date on the latest here a very unfortunate story on our patch the areas near a village sixty kilometers south of moscow as a say still no word on what may have caused that plane to come down it was in the initial climb tracking seems to suggest it was about six thousand four hundred feet up into the air but it be going out to of course usual climbing altitudes between thirty and forty thousand feet that kind of plane investigators say all versions still of whats gone so badly wrong here are being considered at this point. Elsewhere in the week just gone south korea welcome the world to the Winter Olympics on friday the grand Opening Ceremony was held in the host city pyong chang nearly three thousand athletes from ninety two countries took part in the event but before those celebrations the Olympic Arena there were demonstrations and fighting outside the venue people supporting peace between north and south korea had gathered for one rally while another Group Protesting north koreas participation in the games clashed physically with the police for a while. What. Was. The Olympic Stadium north and south korea march together an iconic move to show their warming relations they also held a unified korean flag and lit the olympic torch together the south korean president says hes ready to accept an invitation to visit the north if certain conditions described have met this potentially sets up the first meeting between the countries in more than a decade it was delivered no less than kim jong un sr personally shes attending those Winter Olympics shes the first member of north koreas ruling family in fact to visit the south since the one nine hundred fifty s. So as we just heard a last minute appeal from forty five russian athletes though and two coaches against a ban preventing them from competing failed end of the day their lawyers granted the decision as sanctions in disguise trying to reports next from the olympic host city chad just arbitrators of constitutes the process. To establish an invitation list of russian athletes to compete. From russia would not be described as a sanction but rather as an eligibility decision so there you have it according to the court of arbitration for sport ridding the russian athletes of their olympic invitations isnt equal to punishment and cas is perfectly happy with the criteria that the i. O. C. Initially shows for these invitations the president of the World Antidoping Agency is pleased he says that the timing is great and that all the clean athletes should now be reassured the i. O. C. Are happy to they have applauded. The verdict as you can see and this tweet though the russians are obviously totally devastated i dont know what to say im really disappointed i cant understand the cast decision first they cleared the athletes and now they say sorry you cant go to the olympics this is some kind of madness its terrible not just for our athletes but for all of International Sport did i expect kass to reach this decision fifty fifty especially after thomas buck in one of his latest speeches pressured the court of arbitration for sport after ruled in our favor he was literally threatening the court he was only saying he would dissolve the court if it root again in favor of russian athletes coach Albert Dempsey and co who was by the way one of those to the i. O. C. Was referring to all the things that were being said about the court of arbitration for sport ahead of the hearings including these statements by the president of the i. O. C. Council the decision is extremely disappointing. The decision shows the need. For reform. In the internal structure of cars here thomas bach was referring to the previous cas verdict and that requires a bit of background the forty seven russian athletes and coaches who were suing the International Olympic committee were from two groups thirty two hadnt been sanctioned by the i was c investigators as a result of the russian doping scandal at all fifty received a lifetime bans their medals were taken away by the i. O. C. A few months ago but then the very same court of arbitration for sport last week cancelled these lifetime bans due to insufficient evidence the appearance of held the sanctions and notes and their individual results achieved in such. So the decision that we have right now completely contradicts the previous one and this is a real disaster for the country the athletes both the ones who are still going to compete and young saying under a neutral flag and those who are bad the coaches the fans they are baffled by how unfair it could get i have no where. I was hoping that cast would rule in our favor right now i dont want to do im disappointed but of course i wont give up on sport i still have a lot ahead of me i will compete and win medals for my country. Until the very end we were hoping that the decision would go save them now i feel sadness and sorrow but i will compete in every competition i can have enough strength in the opportunity to compete in the next lympics. I have no emotions left we had all our bags packed you were just waiting for a Decision Making such situations make you stronger emotionally. Or the two koreas rebel to march under a single flag different thing from russian competitors theyre under a neutral banner now and theyre taking part as a limb pick out leads from russia away are as its being termed thats after the International Olympic committee banned russia following a doping scandal although the russian flags been forbidden by the i. O. C. Officially though it still did manage to find its way just about into the stadium some time when i heard that russia can watch under their own flag i felt quite sorry for the athletes you know the athletes who were completely clean and had no problems but they were deprived of the right to represent their country and so i thought id support them by putting the flag out there and partially sad because you know i was looking forward to seeing the best in the world in what the russians are the best in the world a lot of things so i cant see them which is kind of sad but mostly mad because theyve worked for years for these olympics and now theyre being told you know they dont even have really proof they just have suspicions and now theyre being sold without really a chance to properly appeal they cant compete and i just think thats really unfair norways made an impressive start to the games meantime with a clean sweep of the first mens crosscountry skiing event taking gold silver and bronze the wage an athlete is seven krueger to the gold medal that he crushed at the start of the race but nonetheless still managed to get back up and win norway has eight medals in total which puts them in third place in the overall medals table although team always participation at the games were never in doubt their arrival was met with some controversy there its after norwegian state broadcaster published a list of drugs in the team doctor took with him to pyong chairing a remarkable amount of assman medication was noted six thousand doses in fact containing banned substances thats ten times more assman drugs than for example neighboring finland brought to south korea. The quantity of medicines raised a number of concerns and most of those drugs contain substances banned by wider world antidoping watchdog argues that they can enhance an athletes performance indeed by expanding lung capacity norways own antidoping agencies also admitted the country has a problem with the over use of aspirin medication it is common practice in norway to occasionally use as a medicine in major elements in the respiratory system even with the diagnosis vastly is not specific the latest revelation comes after the release of a documentary that alleges the existence of an organized doping system within norways ski federation we spoke to one of the journalist behind the film. No roginsky federation is very angry about this and they dont want to talk about this problem and thats very sad in the region its more. Than a ski federation doping program we can see that forty one percent of the middle east to have abnormal blood it means i dont think this is clean competitions we will see there are. Doping also in these competitions. You see the red security screens just joining us live without International Things your companys kevin any remorse for this afternoon is bad news coming from russia to do it today as well the last couple of hours as you can see the news that passenger planes crashed this afternoon with seventy one passengers and crew on board it to crush shortly after it took off from moscow dead of the airport thats one of the three main airports crushed about fifty kilometers away from the city where im talking to you now were bringing you we still want to get pictures back initial reports are saying that bodies have been found in the snow that will be back with the latest offer a short break. Thats in American Interest to not see any russians die in terrorist attacks as it is in russian interest to prevent any terrorist attacks in the United States or elsewhere in the world so i dont think theres any dispute on that in congress and i think maybe some of the posturing is frankly political as opposed to substantive. War and entertainment have become blurred it in our culture and we have children grow up playing playing war games on the computer this war has somehow been to mystic stated as entertainment to russia just because nothing funny about it is so serious russia will be the last to give up Nuclear Weapons because russia regards Nuclear Weapons as the battle. Against inflation or war by this period covetousness for. His Art International breaking news of this hour a plane with sixty five passengers and six crew on board crashed this afternoon just outside moscow just minutes after it took off first pictures coming through now from the site youre seeing for the first time along with me can see the yellow of throttle fairlands there on the plane is respected and shot by locals obviously in shock at whats happened this all happening about fifty sixty kilometers southeast of moscow a plane came down a small village there Emergency Service is really struggling to reach the location because of the heavy snow there right now as well its been bucketing with snow in moscow and some to moscow county Moscow Region really difficult to get to apparently you cant get there by car you can only get to this scene of this small village are going to by foot you see the initial pictures there are some witnesses on Interfax News Agency quoting but this is to be confirmed of course that they didnt think theres any hope at all for any of the passengers and crew we think seventy one in total of perished that sixty five. She is six crew the plane took off run about two oclock this afternoon from adama to head of International Airport very busy airport we use it all the time self a very professional airport no thoughts about whats gone so horribly wrong here the staff to noon of course investigators going to be looking all things the plane is in its initial climb just at six thousand four hundred feet so the time when the engines are on full whack could be something technical may be but nonetheless even if if you know anything about planes and im reading about it was self it does seem that if one engine goes and nothing catastrophic happens you can still carry on and bring that plane to a safe landing there was a good look at the spose whether the plane was properly de iced because its very icy weather there and theyll be looking at the terrorism as well but very early days and lots of stuff to consider down that youve just come into and hawkins is with us now were rolling with this story as you would expect because its on our r. T. Dot com as well keep across it as well if you cant stay by the t. V. If youre interested in this or maybe youre worried about any of the passengers and the and the crew except for that flight number six w seven o three and it. May be a strange sort of plane lot of people outside of russia ukrainian russian antonov one for a plane most of the Russian Air Companies these days they use air buses they use boeings lowther to pull off the older planes of kind of been phased out five ten years ago and theres the superjet of course thats a russian plane thats thats were widely used internally dont often hear about this antonov one for eight jet was pretty modern one in it its pretty logical in this particular one had its first flight back in two thousand and ten so it claims that it is not actually that old according to. Experts to point out that while the weather as you rightly said has been difficult in moscow the last few days if not record snow fall the weather today in particular as me. Consider extreme there was no extreme winds extreme snowfall etc but of course weather conditions are something that they are looking into should be a problem for a plane taken off in the snow i mean russian pilots especially is so used to this kind of thing if its being d. R. S. Properly. And if it was taking off not not land the it shouldnt particularly be a problem should it well thats right carol and given that this was taking off from moscow is done with a port the top three busiest airports in the country there shouldnt have been problems as you might finally smaller ports perhaps with i. C. s trips with problems upon takeoff and we do have some information coming in actually kevin from online trackers which actually tracked the plane on the radars before it. Went of. One four eight aircraft it climbed as you pointed out just now one thousand eight hundred meters or so at a speed of six hundred Kilometers Per Hour a normal speed for a plane of such caliber then started descending quite rapidly to about one thousand five hundred meters so quite a rapid drop three hundred meters that certainly would have been visible on the radar people on board then climbed back to that original height and then dive down so whatever was happening there perhaps indicative the pilots were trying to gain control of the plane we just dont know at this stage but that is what the flight radar data and of course is saying now the first investigators are getting done the first thing they look at is the path of wreckage and that indicates to them what happened to the plane did it if its a big wreckage path it kind of indicates the so they happened to it and it came apart at high not that it was that high of course this time and if the wreckage is very close together it generally means that the plane came to an impact to the ground generally in one piece theres no idea yet is there of the scale of the of the destruction here how big this crash site is is that. We do have some eyewitness reports which are unverified as of yet but were trying to get more of us as they come in that the plane was on fire as it came down or possibly one of the engines what was on fire still trying to verify the. As witness reports and also the crash site is quite wide indicating as you mentioned earlier that the plane may have fall apart or begun at least to fall apart upon it coming down from the air so as you said given all possibilities are being considered im trying to get on the surat of the airlines down are you web site trying to translate it over to english but its obviously going very slow as a lot of demand on that site at the moment. Just trying to see what the latest thing they were saying there just turned into english at this nothing been updated maybe you can check it out in a minute more the russian side of it we do know theres a group of one hundred fifty rescuers that are on route to that weve had the local Emergency Centers obviously notified act and activated twenty vehicles taking part in that search and recovery operation sadly it is now a search and recovery operation at sea was a both the search and rescue one searching that white site and as you quite rightly said the rescuers our correspondent moros on his way find it very difficult to get there only accessible by foot or by Specialist Vehicles so weve got an idea how long its going to take you it could take anything between one hour to two and a half hours given given whats happening when you know a helicopter is also on its way and looking on the map the area here look at a map of moscow this happened in the Moscow Region moscow county moscow last if you call it and hand turn towards the southeast this plane was flying southeast at the time down towards the urals here thats what i would ask is on the border with kazakstan so it was an internal regional flight its not a particularly long flight given the size of russia flights a lot of us are going cetera can take up to nine hours nevertheless though yes this came down in the all blissed thats southeast of moscow quite fortunate perhaps that it came down. You know so close and not somewhere more remote where actors would have been even more indeed in the mountainous region etc but as we said what we do know it did contain it did have seventy one people on board sixty five passengers six crew members at the moment theres no indication that anybody survived of course well get updates from the boat which is and this is in. In this village where its crushed a good of a said they saw a burning plane as it describing it falling from the sky that would indicate that youre talking about what looks like on the flight track of the fact that the pilots are having some problem big problems stability theyve theyve managed to recover it maybe then it went down again but very interesting clear that they saw it burning maybe one of the engines exploded on the climb maybe a turbine came out a general to say that shouldnt generally be a problem providing a course that turbine doesnt cut through a fuel line doesnt cut through a control line thats right yeah and generally planes of any capacity quite are