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Developments, but we begin at the Weather Map with al roker. As if the threat of this potentially historic Storm Isnt enough, were already seeing tornadoes. Thats right. And this was kind of the worst case scenario, chris, because we were talking about this for the last two days. We were going to see these tornadoes, especially as it approached, and sure enough thats what happened. Lets show you what weve got going on right now. As far as our map is concerned, we are looking at a category 4 storm. 150 miles now southwest of tampa. Its got 130 miles per hour winds. Its moving northeast at 16 miles per hour. Now, as we look, you can see we have Tornado Watches now from Daytona Beach all the way down to key west. Weve had reports of 50 tornadoes so far in the last couple of hours. And now we have numerous, multiple Tornado Warnings going on to the west, i should say the east of tampa and sarasota, to the west of West Palm Beach, and right between West Palm Beach and Fort Myers. These are dangerous storms. Weve had the last two hurricanes, chris, have actually produced at least one ef3 tornado. Thats never happened before, and we do predict that there probably will be another ef3 with this, and that would be really unheard of. In this hatched area, this is where were looking at tornadoes from this afternoon on into the evening, and the danger with the evening tornadoes, these are rain wrapped, and harder to see, and maybe become more numerous as we start to see milton approaching. Now, as far as landfall is concerned, currently were thinking its going to make landfall as a category 3 storm. Does it matter if its a category 3 or a low 4 . No. The damage is going to be done because of this. With winds of about 120, 125 miles per hour. Now, if it keeps on this track, it will push water toward the coast, and then draw water out of the Tampa Bay on the other side of it, and so for that reason, were looking at more troubles for Port Charlotte on into Fort Myers if it stays on this path, less so for Tampa Bay and st. Pete. If it moves to the north, this would create really historic Storm Surge for Tampa Bay and sarasota and new Port Ritchie not seeing as much. If it goes to the south, st. Pete, tampa will be spared. Fort myers To Bonita Springs will be looking at extreme surge impacts, as far as the surges are concerned. 8 to 12 feet around tampa st. Pete, another 8 to 12 down To Bonita Springs. As much as 3 to 5 Feet Tomorrow as the system exits and we get that return flow. The Storm Surge, of course, this is where we see the most damages, the most problems, and unfortunately the most fatalities. These powerful winds start whipping up against the coast, and as those winds drive that water on top of high tides, which tomorrow will be around 6 51 a. M. In tampa, Water Piles up, rising up on and into the land, can go in several miles, and so were going to be watching that very closely where this is going to set up. Now, as far as the rest of this forecast is concerned, we also have other impacts to talk about, extreme damage from winds. I mean, were talking like in the tampa area. We could see windows blown out of highrises, theyve got grains out there. That could be a big problem as well for all of that construction thats going on. Also, with all the Winds Blowing and trees coming down, were looking at widespread Power Outages, sarasota, tampa, Fort Myers, orlando, some of these could last, these Power Outages could last for weeks. And of course the rainfall, were going to be looking at, this is going to be epic rainfall, upwards of a foot and a half. Some places may pick up more than that. Life threatening, catastrophic Flash Flooding with rainfall amounts, generally up to 10 inches, as we said, could be higher than that. This is a storm that has unfortunately everything, chris. Its got tornadoes. Its got Storm Surge, its got high winds and just Life Threatening rainfall, and you put that all together, its just really hard to imagine if people are those areas where they were told to evacuate that theyre going to survive. Help us to put that in perspective a little more, al. Very few people have been doing what you have been doing for as long as you have been doing it, 40 plus years. Youve seen a lot. Youve been to a lot of places, and there are comparisons being made to ian, most obviously, to katrina. Different kind of storm but the Population Density here is very different as well. So give us some perspective over your decades of experience about what the folks in florida are facing right now. Well, look, were not trying to scare people, but were trying to keep them informed. And safe. And safe. We havent seen landfall yet, so and again, when we talk about that path. It can wobble, i mean, we can see a wobble of 10, 15 miles, and thats going to determine, where, as we showed you, the Storm Surge is going to set up. I can tell you, i dont recall, and we go back in the records, i think we can find it. But i dont recall in this age of Satellite Reconnaissance of seeing a storm, not just rapidly intensify, but extreme rapid intensification, over 100 miles per hour increase, and a drop in pressure in less than 24 hours. It went from 85 miles per hour or 80 miles per hour to 180 miles per hour. And so and now its come back off of some of those numbers, but make no mistake. When it comes in, whether its a 3 or a 4, i dont care what that is, its still going to have a major major impact. Not just on infrastructure, but probably the topography of that west coast. Al roker, youre my local weatherman back in the 70s in cleveland, ohio, all these years you were damn good then for a young kid, all that experience, were very lucky to have you. Thank you, appreciate it, al. We can take a look at Tampa Bay, theres already some flooding were seeing. Early on, were starting to get some indications of The Storm that is moving in, and i want to go to tampa now where nbcs Stephanie Gosk Is Standing by. The mayor there, stephanie has made it clear, this is not a drill. This could be the biggest storm in a century for them. What are you seeing, feeling, tell me what you know from there . Well, ill just give you the Lay Of The Land right now, chris. Its already raining heavily. There are gusts of wind, you have all of the major bridges, which are vital to this city, getting back and forth to places like st. Petersburg, all of them are Shut Down, so people who are not in place are going to have a tough time getting to where they want to be at this point in tampa. But, you know, listening to al, you can understand why this city is on tenter hooks because he talks about the wobble, and a wobble of just a few miles here and there, and the truth is that those few miles could be what decides the fate of tampa. 10 miles to the south, its not going to be as bad, 10 miles to the north, and suddenly you have the worst storm in a century, and that is why the mayor is so concerned about this storm. You could have the possibility of a foot of rain on top of potentially a foot of Storm Surge. Listen to what she had to say to residents and to people who live in this city. Wherever that Storm Surge comes, if its 10 to 15 feet, and people are trying to ride this out in single story structures, theres no place to go. And once the winds get up to hurricane speed, theres nobody to come and get you. You listen to her, and she is speaking in very stark terms there. This is a stark situation. It is a Life And Death situation. Officials are doing their best to make sure that people understand that. You already have people from Hurricane Helene who are already nervous and anxious. It does appear, we were in st. Petersburg today that people have heeded the warnings. We didnt see anyone in any of those neighborhoods we have been looking at the last few days, and they have all the furniture and belongings out from the flooding then. It does seem people are listening. Lets hope thats so. We appreciate you being there for us. Further inland, the Orlando Area could see 12 to 18 inches of rain. Officials have Shut Down that airport, along with Disney World and universal studios. That does not happen often. Nbcs Priscilla Thompson is in orlando for us. Whats the latest from there, priscilla . Reporter yeah, chris, well, this is one of the few businesses that is planning to remain open. As you can see, a lot of cars here right now filling up on gas. There are lots of folks inside, grabbing water, grabbing whatever snacks and nonperishables they can get their hands on as folks prepare to hunker down. We spoke to two women filling up. Terrys home was destroyed during Hurricane Helene and st. Petersburg. They just got into orlando Last Night after several days of working to gather what she could from her home, and right now, everything she has is in a ten by ten Storage Facility on the first floor in st. Petersburg. And she was literally clutching a rosary as i talked to her. She said she has been praying nonstop that this storm will not be as bad as expected and they can begin to put their lives back together. I want to play a little bit of our conversation. We slept Last Night like for the first time. We drove at 4 30 yesterday from st. Pete, and we got here at 6 30, and then, you know, weve just been. But i just pray that everyone will be in a safe place for The Storm. I think we just dont know what that wind is going to be like coming at like 1 30 or 1 25 when it actually hits, so that, just a lot of unknowns, you know, but, theres so many people in its path. Reporter and right now, the winds here are projected to be up to 80 miles per hour, but theyre also looking at that up to 18 inches of rainfall, which could lead to devastating flooding here. We saw it during Hurricane Ian a couple of years ago, and milton is expected to be far worse for this area. A lot of people sandbagging, Stocking Up On Water and food, and bracing for this to ride out, and hope it will not be as bad as currently projected. Hoping against hope. Priscilla thompson, thank you. Thousands have moved into shelters from homes surrounded by debris after Hurricane Helene. Nbcs Jesse Kirsch is live in sarasota for us. Walk us through what youre seeing. Reporter its eerily calm. Weve got no wind, just a light breeze going through the Palm Trees behind me, and no rainfall. Were seeing dripping water in the Parking Garage where were going to be bracing throughout The Storm overnight. We also had some flooding in the street, and theres still a little bit, but its receded a good amount. Compared to what were going to be seeing potentially, light rainfall, and well before the Storm Surge were already seeing some Side Streets flooding in sarasota. When you think about the fact that we could be seeing as much as 10 to 15 feet of Storm Surge and just beyond the buildings is sarasota bay, we could be seeing quite a mess in the downtown areas. I can tell you as we look at the Tornado Threat currently bearing down on florida and the powerful Wind Gusts that were expecting, possibly close to 100 miles here in sarasota, theres a lot of debris, and thats the big variable with the hurricane. So many people are in the midst of cleanup from Hurricane Helene less than two weeks ago, and theres a lot of trash on peoples lawns, on sidewalks, on street, and what i call trash is frankly peoples lives, many belongings that have been destroyed. Mattresses, cook wear, an envelope with a Persons Name on it. A good amount of lives have been ruined from Hurricane Helene. All of that could become projectiles in the wind. The governor has been talking about this throughout the week. Heres part of what we heard from Ron Desantis. So in a little over 48 hours, and they were working All Through The Night and the wee hours of the morning in places like manatee, sarasota, and pinellas, they were able to remove 55,000 Cubic Yards of debris. So thats over 3,000 truckloads. Reporter the governors estimate is around 50 of debris on Barrier Islands being cleared away, chris. That still leaves half of that debris. And i can tell you that here in sarasota county, and City Officials have told us the dump stopped taking debris yesterday, and we were still in areas under Evacuation Orders looking around, and i can tell you at that point there was still a good amount of stuff that im worried about whats going to happen as it goes in the air. Jesse kirsch, thank you so much. Lets take a look at key west, starting to see the effects of the milton. The second hurricane to hit florida in two weeks, and the ongoing question about the resources. Will there be enough to go around . Ill ask a top official with the department of Homeland Security next. Security next your Shipping Manager left to find themself. Leaving you lost. You need to hire. I need indeed. Indeed you do. Sponsored jobs on indeed are two and a half times faster to first hire. Visit indeed. Com hire when we started Feeding Bogie the farmers dog, he lost so much weight. Preportioned packs makes it really easy to keep him lean and healthy. In the morning, he flies up the stairs and hops up on my bed. In the past, he would not have been able to do any of those things. These are live pictures from Fort Myers beach, florida, as Hurricane Milton bears down. President biden is delivering a clear message to people in its path. If you need help, the government will help you, no matter what youve heard. I want to be clear about something. Over the last few weeks, theres been a reckless irresponsible and relentless promotion of disinformation and outright lies that are disturbing people. One of the false narratives is that the federal employees who are actually delivering assistance will take an individuals land, and that is causing individual survivors not to approach the people who are there to help, and obtain the relief to which they are entitled and that we have available to them. I want to bring in dan watson, Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at the department of Homeland Security. Let me start there because as was said in the federal briefing just a short time ago, words matter. What is your message to people who are believing some of this stuff . What is the role of any federal employee, any member of fema or any other Relief Agency who is there to help . Chris, we have been very clear about this, and were going to continue to be very clear about this. The federal government is has assistance thats available to individuals who have been impacted by helene, and right now, were working in support of the state of florida to prepare for what is a very serious, major hurricane thats about to make landfall. Lets talk about preparations for that. Where are your people . Are they ready to go . Fema has about 900 personnel that are on the ground. If florida, theres more than 1,000 Coast Guard personnel that are there too. Two days ago on monday, the president approved a request of the governor, an emergency declaration, and what that does is it provides funding to support the evacuations that were seeing, first responders, all of the life saving activities that were going to see over the next 24 hours. Femas deployed urban Search And Rescue teams, swift Water Rescue teams deployed now in preparation for what is a really serious situation. You probably heard what the Fema Director said a short time ago, shes never had to deal with this many disaster happening all at once. Is there a limit to how much the federal government can handle simultaneously . Well, i want to be very clear. Theres about 8,000 personnel across the region, and 900 fema personnel in florida. So we have teams in place that are available to support the response to both of these storms. When i was at fema, we would always say, youve got to be fema flexible, and fema is flexible today and responding to these historic and more disaster than ever, as you noted. Dan watson, thank you for taking the time to speak with us. Thank you very much. Thanks, chris. Coming up, a fierce trump critic, yes, a Kamala Harris Voter new york city. Mitt romney explains why hes not joining other high profile republicans supporting the democratic ticket. Thats next. Youll find them in cities, towns and suburbs all across america. Millions of americans who have medicare and medicaid, but may be missing benefits they could really use. Extra benefits they may be eligible to receive at no extra cost. And if you have medicare and medicaid, you may be able to get extra benefits, too. Through a Humana Medicare Advantage dualeligible special Needs Plan. Call now to see if you qualify. 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Matt gorman is a former aide to Mitt Romney who served as Communications Director for the national republican congressional committee. Michael hardaway is former Communications Director for House Minority Leader Hakeem Jep jeffries, and im going to get to republicans and kamala harris. We have breaking news, matt. We just got new fundraising numbers. Kamala harris has been running for president since the day, essentially, that Joe Biden stepped down and almost immediately said he was backing her. So 80 days. She has crossed the 1 Billion mark. She has raised 1 Billion in 80 days. My very complicated question for you, matt, is what . Yeah, i think what ill say is this, Joe Biden was acting like a proverbial dam on democrats money and enthusiasm. What you saw in the first 60 days when kamala became the nominee was a flood of stuff being held back. When it comes to president ial politics, money matters less than say if youre a House Candidate the Spending Disparity in a house race, it would be a big deal, but really in a president ial race but you would rather be Kamala Harriss Bank account than Donald Trumps. Just like all of us. We would rather have more money than less, of course, but when it comes to what it can do and move the needle, there are fewer ways, funny enough, when you get to the president ial level because it relied on Earned Media than it does on paid media. What Killer Ad are you going to put against Donald Trump thats going going to change the race after he spent ten years in the spotlight. Thats hard to do. He is right about that, michael. Earned media is something Donald Trump has done extraordinarily well since the day he came down that golden escalator, but what can you do with 1 Billion, and so help us get it into some perspective . What does it mean given this very different landscape that were in right now . The biggest value of all of that money is she should give it away. She has done this to some degree in writing a check to the dccc, and she should write larger checks. If she wins or loses, we need to have a majority in the house. We need to have a majority in the senate. And there are local groups that are doing that work, and so the answer to your question is, in less than a month, she cant spend that money, obviously, but she said give it away to the groups that can help democrats control the house and the senate. I think also the cbc is doing good work on the ground, and i think thats another opportunity for her to spread out some of that cash. Were going to be watching. Go ahead, matt, go ahead. Thats a very good point by michael. Youre going to see this on the republican side too. You see trump doing a rally in coachella, california, obviously not a swing state. An event at madison square garden, new york, not a swing state. The reason of those two states, same thought as michael, they want to juice up republican turnout in house races. California, new york, some of the most competitive House Districts in the country. Again, theyre looking at Down Ballot races, trying to help them if either is elected president. Okay. And i think there are actually three big venues, all not in battleground states where hes going to be doing those kinds of events, but let me ask you about Mitt Romney because you know him so well, matt. Any surprise that he said, kind of do the math, but he wouldnt say i endorse kamala harris. I love Mitt Romney, i will never say a bad word about him, a great man, a great boss. I think hes playing it smart. If you go out, way out on a limb, and make a big scene like Liz Cheney and others have done, is it right, its a lot harder to come back to The Party afterwards. Trump could win or lose, but, you know, The Party is moving in a populous direction. If you want to be a voice, you want to stay in the tent proverbially. And let me ask you about something the Wall Street Journal wrote about, they talked to an Nbc Pollster who said this, in combined nbc polls this year, republicans led by 2 percentage points over democrats, 4240 when voters were asked which party they identify with. That compares with democratic leads of 6 points in 2020, 7 in 2016, 9 points in 2012. What to you make of that, and does it tell you anything about november . Were all getting old. I think as people get older, vote republican. At a functional level, there are many democratic policies that americans support. I think, you know, when you take a step back, people that are answering that question probably are looking at personality, and the way they feel currently about perhaps the economy and other areas. 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This is alligator alley, the stretch that connects Fort Lauderdale to naples. You can see the funnel getting closer and closer as the driver tries to evacuate east, ahead of that storm. That is terrifying video. There we go. Wow. The Message Today from the Naples Police Department is we will get through this together. Nbcs Dana Griffin is on the ground in naples. What are you seeing there ahead of the Storms Landfall . Reporter i just want to mention. We are at least 71 minutes from i75. I know that was in rural collier county, but this is the same county that we are in. We were actually at the beach on naples, and we got Tornado Warnings on our phone. We were there, shooting interviews. We had to leave because we also saw lightning in the area. So theres obviously a major concern about the sort of systems and the sort of impacts you ahead of milton as it makes landfall. I want you to listen to surfers we spoke with. They were out there catching those gnarly waves. They are much bigger than they usually get in naples, especially on the West Side of the state. Listen to what our conversation, how our conversation unfolded. Reporter is there ever a moment during The Storm where you say, this is too dangerous, im leaving. Not until we get kicked off. Thats about it. Reporter this is a cat 4 hurricane, this is a serious deal. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. We never get surf here in naples. Whenever theres a hurricane, we try to make the best out of it and take advantage of The Storm. Reporter any concerns, fears about what happens . No concerns, no fears, you know, whatever happens, happens. We love to surf and this is what we do. Reporter well, you heard them. No fears, no concerns. They said they were going to be out there for about two hours, and that was about two hours ago. Hopefully they left the area. Things are going to get a little bit dicier here. We are here in naples, which is south of where that Impact Zone from Miltons Landfall will make, but we are expected to get Storm Surge here, 5 to 8 feet possibly. This is a major concern even in the city. Officials warning people in the Evacuation Zones to leave. We have seen several people bring their cars to garages, like where we are to move to higher ground because of the potential Life Threatening Storm Surge, and again, theres still a threat for other impacts, whether its tornadoes, rain, weve seen some Rain Bands already from milton. Were seeing some gusty winds, up to 50 miles per hour so far. So its a sticky situation, and this is only the beginning. Chris. Dana griffin, Stay Safe. Lets hope the surfers are heading somewhere safe. The message to florida residents is stark and dark. If you refuse to evacuate, at least write your name on your body so it can be identified if you dont survive the hurricane. Now, some People Cant evacuate, for lack of money or transportation. For them, officials have set up hot lines and they can request help. But for those who just refuse because theyve survived other storms, Vice President harris says milton is a different story. I know there are a lot of Tough Floridians who have waited out many hurricanes, and may think that they can do the same with this one. This ones going to be different, and so i ask anybody who is watching, if you are in florida, in the predicted path of this hurricane, if you got a Family Member who might be, you know, thinking they can wait it out, please get in touch with them. Tell them its not going to be like the ones weve seen before. Joining me is the mayor of sarasota, liz albert, and brian gleason. Mayor, you and i spoke yesterday. You said then a lot of folks who stayed behind for helene came to regret it. You thought they were taking this Evacuation Order seriously this time. Do you have a good handle . Have most people left . What can you tell us about the people of your city . From what we can tell, i think most people have vacated the Barrier Islands, and a lot of people, you know, that i know have actually left, people who have never left before in other hurricanes, so i dont think anybody is thinking that this is going to be easy and just, you know, like any other Hurricane Weve seen before. So theyre taking it seriously. Brian, i understand youre at the emergency Operations Center in your area. What resources are available for people who cant evacuate, whether because they dont have money, they dont have transportation, or they just feel as though they dont know what to do right now . Is it too late . We still have occupancy open, available at two shelters in charlotte county, at Kingsway Elementary School and at babcock school, and we had been transported people for free using our local transit operation, and that had to Shut Down. The last rides on that offer is going to be 3 00 this afternoon. We stopped taking reservations at 12 00. But uber is offering free rides to folks via a promotion that theyre doing. If you dont have transportation to a shelter, log on to the Uber App and use the code that is available on our web site. Charlottecountyfl. Gov. Its Milton Relief. Say that again, im sorry. I cut you and i want to make sure people hear that. Yeah, Milton Relief is the code for the uber ride. Okay. Good to know. You know this, a lot of folks have ridden out a lot of storms, and you know, i think, brian, there is and can be a sense of complacency. In fact, one guy told the Washington Post this, in 30 years here, nothing has happened. Thats why were not scared. You see too many hurricanes. You see nothing happen. You have to feel safe. Is there anything you feel like you can say to people, whether its where you are or elsewhere in florida who may still have time to go to a shelter, to call an uber, to get somewhere safe. Or do you think at this point theres no convincing folks who have decided to stay home . I think our experience with Hurricane Helene two weeks ago is going to make a lot of people take this storm more seriously. We got 5 feet of Storm Surge, and hundreds of homes had to throw the contents of their homes out on the street. The folks who went through ian, debbie, other storms in the carry, as far back as charlie, we didnt have any Storm Surge with any of those storms. So helene was a wakeup call, and everybody is taking this one very seriously. The amount of Storm Surge is projected to be as much as twice the amount of Storm Surge we got with helene. We saw a lot of compliance with our Evacuation Orders for our coastal zones, our b zone, our c zone. We evacuated well over half the county of 210,000 people. This place is like a ghost town. Yeah. I mean, weve been seeing pictures of roadways that are just empty, and obviously beaches that are empty. And you hope that thats the case, right . Mayor alpert, we have new video. I dont know if youve gotten a chance to look out the window, but we already see flooding on the streets of sarasota. To say the worst is yet to come is an understatement. There was a briefing earlier, both from the state, we heard from governor desantis, and federal officials from dod to Army Corps of engineers, the forest administration, hhs, all of these folks talking about how theyre positioned to help. Do you feel that youre as ready as anyone can be for whats to come, and that help will be ready to go . We absolutely are. We have been doing everything we can. Weve got all of our Police Officers on duty until the end of The Storm. Weve got our public works and utilities debates at the emergency Operations Center so that theyre poised to go to work immediately when The Storm passes. Fpl is ready. And also ready to take action as soon as The Storm passes. I think weve done everything we can. 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In tampa, which is in the direct line of Hurricane Milton, nearly 60 of Gas Stations have no fuel left, according to Fuel Tracking Web site, gas buddy. One man whose home was battered by Hurricane Helene is desperate to get out of florida. Last night, no gas. I tried to get gas to fill my truck, just in case my flight got canceled, i could get out. Restaurants were closed. Most of them. I had a reservation at a hotel. I get to the hotel, the hotel is closed. Boarded up. Now, he was able to make it out on the very last flight out of Tampas Airport before it, too, closed its doors. I want to bring in former director of the Florida Division of Emergency Management, joe myers. He was responsible for the States Emergency Response plan after hurricane andrew. Also with us, former fema administrator, craig fugate, together they designed and implemented floridas Emergency Management system, which is the foundation that is in use today. Good to talk to both of you. Youre both veterans of dealing with natural disaster. Craig, you and i have spoken many times, but rarely in a situation like this. Is it possible, even with all the work thats been done, to be ready for a storm of this magnitude . Well, i think everything that can be done is being done, but the part of this were not talking about yet is the immediate response after The Storm, and this is where weve seen time and time again, we talk about first responders, but the thing thats going to save lives are neighbors checking on neighbors. This is over such a large area that the fastest response is going to be the public helping each other while the responders are trying to get back in these communities. You know, joe, governor Ron Desantis says this is the largest mobilization of the national guard in advance of a storm in state history. But are people who are on the ground on the front lines, whether theyve evacuated somewhere, whether theyre in a shelter, or whether theyre among the handful of people who have decided to stay behind . Yes, thats correct. The national guard is there to help them throughout this event. I think theres, like, 6,000 guards from florida and another 3,000 that were brought in through the Emergency Management assistance combat, which craig and i, its part of our building the plan in the beginning, a lesson learned from andrew, where we could bring in resources from other states. And theyll be supporting people in shelters, and helping get people out of the area, and providing a lot of valuable transportation. My colleague talked to a couple in a mobile Home Community in st. Petersburg. They say theyre just not leaving. None of the assistance we have applied for has even came in. So, its left us, youre picking and pulling straws here, you know, is it stay with your Ship And Sink with it, or go abandon ship and go somewhere else that might be worse, you know. Its a twoheaded coin. Scary either way. I dont know if you could hear the end of that, joe, she said its scary either way, and now were seeing tornadoes picking up. Is there anything that you would want to say to folks like that right now . I would hope they would have time to get out because this storm is we havent seen anything quite like this. The Storm Surge is going to be awful. I know two weeks ago, i was sitting in tallahassee, thinking about a cat 4 coming down, it causes a lot of anxiety. The the New York Times was looking at a big picture and in a story, they say these extreme hurricanes that were seeing now are just the beginning. I want to quote from that article, we are witnessing a new reality, super charged hurricanes are no longer outliers, Freak Disasters or storms of the century. Fossil Fuel Pollution has made them a fixture of life arounds world, and they are going to get worse, with millions of people in their cross hairs. Many americans refuse to believe that a major hurricane could hit them. Is that, indeed, the new normal, and are we ready for it, craig . It is. And were not. Climate change is deep. We have to think about adaptation. If you think about the standards we use to build our infrastructure, it was based upon the past. You know, with these recordsetting events occurring almost weekly across the globe, our Infrastructure Wasnt built for it. When these storms hit, we need to make sure when we rebuild, were not just building it back the way it was. We need to build it for the future risk our communities face. What youre saying is technology has come a long way, but we either dont have the will or the money to make it better . What has to happen . Were going to have to get used to this idea that a lot of times we hear pushback when local officials try to improve building codes, its going to make homes unaffordable, and we need to develop to grow our economy. We cant do that irresponsibly. We have to build for the risk. We have to change how were building and where were building. Were seeing the Insurance Industry is no longer able to insure many of these weatherrelated risks. We cannot continue doing what we have always done and eke by through these storms. Were going to have to fund mentally think how and where were going to rebuild. Its being shifted from the taxpayer to private insurance. The environment has changed and our systems and infrastructure are not keeping up. And we havent even talked about the fact of how many People Cant Get Or Cant afford insurance. That is a conversation we will have on another day. Craig fugate, joe myers, thank you very much both. Thats going to do it for us this hour. 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