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It was a fast moving newsweek. Here are some of the conversations you might have missed. We go have new polls from three key Battleground States the latest Maris Poll of likely voters in arizona find former President Trump ahead of Kamala Harris 50 to 49 . Of course, New York Times poll had Donald Trump up 73 points a couple days ago. Its the same story. Outflier with likely voters in georgia where the late of the Marist Poll finds trump ahead. 50 to 49 . One point. North carolina, Trump And Harris deadlocked 49 each. All of these polls fall within their margins of error. Willie, it is shocking news we should put Breaking News at the bottom here. This election is tied i dont want anyone to throw tomatoes at me i almost get the feeling if Joe Biden had s how managed to stay in the race, it would still be tied. Donald trumps numbers are not moving. It is just how many people eventually find their way back to the Democratic Party. Yeah, it sure looks that way. Theres emerson polls that came through by the way that show texas is within five points. Obviously a long shot for a democrat. And Colin Allred is close to cruz. And in places when Joe Biden was on the ticket and this might be the deference that we are starting to look like, that might be in play for Donald Trump, they have now gone back to reverted to the meme Kamala Harris in virginia for example is up to 8 or 9 points. Maybe thats the difference there. But you are right, its going to be neck in neck. Donald trump has his people locked in. He made a Speech Yesterday in North Carolina about the economy it was at Pipe Manufacturing Plant Near Charlotte and spoke for over an hour veering off course as he does. At one point, a long tangent about his personal experiences of Buying Furniture in North Carolina prompts Fox News to cut away from the speech. North carolina was once the Beating Heart of american manufacturing. I know it very well. I was here many times to buy furniture for buildings. I would come and look and there was nobody like the craftsmen of North Carolina. It was filled with companies like this one and known everywhere for its incredible craftsmanship and skill. I know from personal experience, though, that i was a big buyer. I bought a lot of things here. That there was no place for furniture in particular like North Carolina. You were the Furniture Capital of the world, but now, so much of that business has been stolen from you and made in china and other places. And by the way, its not as good the quality is nowhere near. You made furniture and bought a Chair It was good for 30 years. You buy some of the chairs they sell you now, they break after about two months. People are laying on the floor. Suing you for giving them a bad chair. On top of it all, our government keeps them on top of it all you are sued because they fell out of a chair at a hotel. Boy oh, boy you made the best product and furniture. After the Twin Betrayalals of nafta which i ended and chinas entertry into the Wto World Trade North Carolina lost over 300 manufacturing jobs quickly including 60 of the Furniture Manufacturing jobs and the number was going up until i came along. We are going to continue to watch this. We carried this economic speech in its entirety for almost an hour and a half yesterday. We are told the rest of the speech will very much echo what we heard yesterday. Buying echo Buying Furniture in North Carolina. Willie, the thing that we have to grasp here is that the race is still tied. Thats true. That Guy Mr. Shark, mr. Hannibal electrictor. And i lector. You bring up great points. Joe biden was seeing numbers in minnesota in virginia, in New Hampshire get too close for comfort. So you may be right. There is, i said there may be no difference. Maybe no difference in Donald Trumps number, but deference in how quickly people are get back to the democratic ticket. But you are right you look at taxes the race is within five and most folds you see Ted Cruz in the margin of error and most recent polls we have seen. Florida also pretty tight race. Word is Chuck Schumer thinking about burying a lot of money in florida hoping to take out the Florida Senator there. Republican senator there. So, it has gotten some of the Battleground States have gotten tighter. Old Battleground States and new ones are in play. Investing in florida and in texas and places maybe they wouldnt be investing in a couple months ago and lets not forget Kamala Harris raised gobs of money and energized the base to knock on doors and put up yard soon and do all those things. You have to laugh, joe, about Donald Trump the idea when he was running his terrible casinos in At Lant he can city, he was going to North Carolina and handpicking the furniture that would be in every hotel. And talk to the craftsmen about what they did. But he worried about the lawsuits later when people would fall off the chinese made chairs. These are. Chairs exactly. Relatable problems we all have. Lets bring in the conversation our good friend. Seriously, who among us did not inherit 400 Million from his Father And Blow knit casinos in jersey. Happens to the best mike and president of the national Action Network Coast of msbc politics in Nation And Staff brighter at atlantic mark. Good morning to you all. You been done to watch the North Carolina furniture have you been down there it is amazing. It is. I doubt Donald Trump has been there. The only thing better than being down there and witnessing the craftsmenship a talk to the craftsmen about taking corners off pillows and making them softer. How do they do it . Donald knows all about that and he had a great conversation about furnitureture and pillows. Mahogany versus pine. Tears in their eyes as they talked about the couch. Sir. Sir, the sir you have to wow, mark. Kamala harris had an economic Speech Yesterday as well. I will say. She talked about the economy. I will say its fascinating everybody wanted it hear about Kamala Harris, wheres harris on the issues i looked at right wing outlets did not cover her Speech Yesterday. It was all the answers. Which was middle Class Capitalism. She very clearly said i am a capitalist, my goal is middle Class Capitalism and talked about how to help Small Business and young families with new babies. You know i mean, she laid out her i think more of a general view of where she wants to take this country but its far more specific than Donald Trump to saying tariffs, tariff, tariffs and. And furniture. I think people are take few days to digest this. And they will read the issue papers closely. Come on. Its ridiculous. Kamala harris is the person who has the room to grow. I mean Donald Trump is a known entity and the antitrump coalition in this country is much higher than it was for the Probe Biden Coalition and pro Harris Coalition and people want to learn about her and even if they are not pouring over details the idea she is out there talking about issues that she looks serious and it sounds serious, that theres a convincing Counter Argument to the sort of if you call what Donald Trump is doing argument out there, think its positive for her. Even whether people look closely at the details or not. The madness that, welly, the madness oh Donald Trump goes out and talks all the time. He does. He does. About furniture and sharks and tariffs. But oh, wait we need more details from Kamala Harris. She is giving a hell of a lot more details than Donald Trump and the fact, that, again, people are trying to flatten the race and say sure, Donald Trump did what he did on january 6th, but we dont have all of Kamala Harris Position Papers yet so we dont know what we are going to do. You are watching morning Joe Weekend. We will be right back. Weekend. We will be right back. Everywhere but the seat. The seat is leather. Alan, we get it. You love your bike. We do, too. Thats why were Americas Numberone Motorcycle insurer. But do you have to wedge it into everything . What . I dont do that. This reminds me of my bike. The wolf was about the size of my new motorcycle. Have you seen it, by the way . Happy birthday, grandma really . Look how the brushstrokes follow the line of the gas tank. 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In terms of the facts, Donald Trump left us with the worst economy since the great depression when you look at for example the employment numbers. It was during Covid And Employment was so high because we shut down the government we shut down the country. Even before the pandemic he lost manufacturing jobs by most peoples estimates at least 200,000. He lost Manufacturing Plants asked the autoworkers how he lost auto plants. We have grown over 20 now auto plants. And he has an agenda lets deal with right now going forward not to mention what happened in the past. He has an agenda that would include making a more difficult for workers to earn overtime, and agenda that would include cutting off access to Small Business loans for Small Businesses, and agenda that includes tariffs to the point that the average Working Person will spend 20 more on every day necessities. And then estimated 4,000 a year on every day necessities top commits in the country in noble laureates to people at moodys goldman sachs compared Pie Plan with his and said my plan would grow the economy, and his would shrink the economy. So, that was Vice President Kamala Harris with her exclusive interview conducted by Msnbc Stephanie Ruhle talking about the differences and her plans for the economy versus what Donald Trump did when he was in office. And then before that, you saw her speech on her vision for the economy a portion of it. How do you think she did in the speech . I saw specifics, mixed with stories that show how her values back up her plan. Well, again, for people that are claiming she didnt go deep enough in policy to look at every president ial campaign over the past 100 years, other than Hillary Clinton who put Position Papers out like just constantly on a website didnt do a lot of good, as she said herself recently. But you look at the direction and she is talking about the direction she is going to go with policies, and she says she is going to be a middle class capitalist. She is doing what i wanted republicans and democrats to do for a very long time. And then instead of obsessing on Tax Cuts, for billionaires and multinational corporations, she is obsessing on middle Class Capitalism the creation of Small Businesses, helping people get into homes because they are having difficulty getting into homes and child Tax Credit, all the things that, again, are good sensible middle class policies. Policies that had Help Build and grow the middle class. Which is what conservatives and republicans have always wanted to do. But what i find so striking, jackie, is they are two standards. Kamala harris well wait, what is the. We would like a power point presentation. What is the Long Term impact and why hasnt she talked about the next round of quantitative easing. Donald trump burps and everybody laughs and says he tells it like it is. He he is the beneficiary of what the bush brothers called the soft bigotry of expectations. They dont expect anything from Donald Trump and gets a free pass and then you have people going on Tv Shows and writing editorials going, oh my god, when its Kamala Harris going to get out and talk to america on Policy Issue as much as Donald Trump. And it is laughable. It is a joke. They are two standards. My reading of the speech is that was direct rebuttal of the caricature that Donald Trump tried to paint of Kamala Harris as bomb throwing Fire Brand progressive as he called her comrade kamala. This was a speech where she used deliberate language to establish herself as a pragmatic and centricity democrat. Especially from economic perspective. It was by No Moneys a spicey plan talking about Defensing Industrial Policy boosting Housing Supply and Tax Cuts for middle Class And Tax increases for people making over 400,000 once the Trump Tax cuts expire. So i think it was not only a way to showcase her 90 page economic platform that was put together in less than two months. But also, to sort of subtlely combat the characterizations and the again, caricature of harris that trump pushed again and again thats not based in ideological reality of where she stands on actual issues. Right, and willie its so fascinating, we have seen this through the years, i was jotting down a couple of notes, where you have she said i am a capitalist, right . And jackie said, sending a strong message, but i am a capitalist like Bill Clinton when he said, the era of big government is over. Also, when george w. 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Of the many challenges for the Harris Campaign, there are two big false narratives about Vice President Kamala Harris being pushed by the antianti Trump Universe and some in the mainstream media, one, is that Donald Trump might be bad, but harris wont tell The American people where she stands on the issues. The other is the both sideisms when it comes to violent rhetoric. We are going to breakdown both and start with the first false narrative the but the issues crowd. Take a look at how Msnbc Host of the 11th Hour Stephanie Ruhle picked the argument apart on friday night. Its not too much to ask kamala say, are you for Palestinian State if hamas is going to run the state. Okay. Yes or no. And lets say you dont like the answer are you going to vote for Donald Trump . No i am not. I just said. She is not running for perfect. She is running against trump. We have two choices, and so there are some things you might not know her answer to, and in 2024, unlike 2016, for lot of american people, we know exactly what trump will do, who he is, and the kind of threat he is to democracy. I dont know. It is unclear to me how there could be. The problem with a lot of people have with kamala is we dont know her answer to anything. Okay. You know his answer to everything. And thats why i would never vote for him and people shouldnt vote for him but people are expected to have some idea of what the program is of the the person you are supposed to vote for. You are not supposed to i is a you have to vote for y because x is this that and the other. Lets find out more and i dont think its a lot to ask her to sit down for an interview as opposed to a Puff Piece she describes her feelings of growing up in oakland with nice lawns. Then, he would just say to that when you move to nirvana give me real estate Brokers Number and i will be the next door neighbor. We dont live there. That really is, and i like bret and i like bill said he is a fan of what reads but i dont know what universe he lives in. He said we dont know her answer to anything. Thats just not true. Its just false he has he obviously has not been watching the campaign. And again, i know you are going to get into this, but compare what she said and again we can go through the issues, with Donald Trump. Whether its that rambling answer on Child Care, where nonsensical answers during debate and by the way, she wants to debate again, Donald Trump doesnt. Because he doesnt talk about the issues, he Cant Talk about the issues. But again theres False Equivalency from the anti, anti Trump Crowd and media. He she serves as Senator Attorney General and Vice President and has a record. She has record. Something you can compare to trump. Last week Los Angeles Bureau chief for the New York Times wrote an on theed poseer with mocked harris for telling her Life Story in an interview with a local Tv Station in philadelphia in response to a question about bringing down prices and making life more affordable, for people, he criticized harris for talking about how she was a middle Class Kid who grew up in a community of construction workers, nurses, and teachers who were very proud of their lawn. And how her mother saved to buy her familys first house. And paid tribute to a neighbor who became a surrogate parent. She praised the beautiful character of The American people and only then after nearly two minutes he write did she outline her plan . The Vice President has been outlining the plan for weeks. Heres some examples. When people work hard and have a dream of buying a home, we should give you the opportunity to be able to do that which is why part of my plan is for first time homeowners. Buyers to have a 25,000 down Payment Assistance to buy a home they need to get their foot in the door and you will do the hard work. Part of my plan is to give startup Small Businesses a 50,000 Tax Deduction to start up the Small Business. Right now its 5,000 No One can start a Small Business with 5,000. Thats part of my plan. Because heres thing, we know that we have a shortage of homes and housing. And the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people. We know that young families need support to raise their children and i entendon extending a Tax Cut for those families of 6,000 the largest Tax Credit for a long time so the young families can buy a crib, a car seat, by clothes for their children. We are going to work with the private Sector And Home builders to increase 3 Million homes and increase by 3 Million homes by The End of the first term. All right. To stephanies. You dont like the answers, is that not enough . What you need to do is compare that to direct questions Donald Trump has been asked on how he would handle various issues including bringing down cost of Child Care, Water Conservation in california and threats to manufacturing in michigan. Take a listen. Can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make Child Care affordable and if so, what specific piece of legislation will you advance . What i would do that and we are sitting down you know, i was somebody we had Senator Marco Rubio and my daughter ivanka was so impactful on that issue. Its a very important issue. But i think when you talk about the kind of numbers that i am talking about, that because, Child Care is Child Care. You know, something you have to have it in this country, you have to have it. But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that i am talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they are not used to but they will get used to it very quickly. Its not going to stop them from doing business but they will very substantial tax the numbers are so much bigger than numbers we are talking about including Child Care. Millions of gallons of water pouring down from the north with the snowcaps and canada and all pouring down and they have essentially a very large faucet. You turn the faucet and it is massive as big of the wall of that building right there behind you. And you turn that and all of that water goes into the aim leslie into the pacific. And if they turned it back, all of that water would come right down here and right into Los Angeles. They wouldnt have to have people not use more than 30 gallons and 32 gallons. They want to do that you know, they are trying to do that. And, you have so much water and all those fields that are right now barron, farmers would have all the water they need and you could revert water into the hills where you have the dead forest and where the forest is so brittle. What do you see as the major threats to the future of michigan Manufacturing Auto working jobs, and what will you do to eliminate the threats, sir. Okay. I will get into another long answer because when you say major threat, to me we have one really major threat. And thats called nuclear weapons. We have other countries that are hostile to us and dont have to be hostile to us. I say if you have a smart president you will never have a problem with china and russia. I got along great with Putin And President xi and kim Jong Un of north korea. Everybody said you cant get along with him. He liked me i got along great with him and he has a lot of nuclear force. But you essentially have five countries and you will have more whether you like it or not, you are going to have more. Single biggest threat to the world not only michigan to the world, and you are not going to care so much about making cars if that stuff starts happening. He cant give a straight answer. And he devolves into nonsensical rambling. The last answer, the about the rambling was about bringing manufacturing back to michigan. The previous question the Big Faucet takes a day to turn, Water Conservation. That first question the long rambling question about Child Care his answer nonsensical. Thats always the case. No answers. And john, mika will get to the False Equivalency on violent rhetoric which is worse. But something is happening out there where people are trying to flatten and its not just the anti, antitrumpers but people the mainstream media they are going yes, Donald Trump he is saying all the crazy things but did you see that there were two there with were two people this weekend with significant columns going but did you see her answer to the local philadelphia question. She actually gave a three Point Answer and she talked about you know 50,000 dollars for start up Small Business and she talked about Tax Breaks 25,000 Tax Breaks for first time home buyers and she talked about a private Investment Partnership that would help create the building of 3 Million new jobs those are specific answers to specific questions. And yet, two people one at Wall Street Journal and one at the New York Times we are like did you hear her talking about her background . And her middle class and then they go yeah, yeah, she got to the Policy Questions later. But she never tells us anything about anything. Actually, thats just a lie. Our next guest served on robert muellers special Council Investigation into Russias Interference of the 2016 election. We will hear their account of the historic probe as well as their concerns about this years election. Morning Joe Weekend will be back after a quick break. Back after a quick break. Meet the jennifers. Jen x. Jen y. And Jen Z. 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So that was former special Council Robert Mueller back in 2019 explaining his decision not to make a Determination On Whether then president Donald Trump committed federal crimes while in office. That historic decision is one of the topics discussed in the new book from three former prosecutors in Muellers Office entitled interference, the inside story of trump, russia and the Mueller Investigation. Joining us now two of the Cooughtors Aaron who served as muellers top Deputy And Andrew goldstein who lead the obstruction of Justice Investigation into Donald Trump andrew i will start with you. Are americans misinformed about the outcome of the Mueller Investigation . I think they are in part the way that Attorney General Bill Barr ultimately released our findings and put out his own summary of the report before actually putting out what we had written made it so that the report what he put out understated the amount of interference the president did in the investigation and understated the extent of Russias Interference and the trump Campaigns Willingness to benefit from that interference. So lets stay on that topic, aaron, the idea of Attorney Generals Whitewashing Findings and putting out the letter first. I recall that Mueller Team you put out clarification sooner after but was there discussion about doing more about pushing back further to say thats not the real story. There was, there were a series of steps we took after Bill Barrs letter came out on sunday the 24th the morning after that letter came out ishes called the Department Of Justice and i pressed for them to release our Executive Summaries and introductions and in fact redacted then and we went with the letter that we sent bob sent on wednesday. So andrew, take us Behind The Scenes here. About the debate whether to subpoena the then president. Well, we wanted to speak with the president. We thought it was important to understand what his intent was and taking various actions like firing James Comeey because of the Russia Investigation, and we also wanted to know and question him about the different contacts members of his campaign had with russian intermeet aries. He owe long period of time made ate clear through the lawyers he was not going to testify willingly. We considered a subpoena the difficulty is by the time of the investigation, where a subpoena would have been the right thing to do, it was very late in the investigation at that point we had information from a lot of other sources about the president s Intent And State of Mind And Subpoena would have dragged the investigation out for possibly a year or two, and we may never have heard from the president. And so we made the decision not to subpoena him. So, aaron, given the passage of time, and seems like a century ago that we were talking about this as a live news event. Yeah. Given the passage of time and the events that have occurred within that time, all of the charges that could have been leveled against then President Trump many of them could still be leveled today i would assume despite maybe a statute of limitation running around. But what would happen today given the supreme Court Decision on president ial immunity. Its hard to know with certainty but youre right, it is unclear anything could proceed at in the point the recent supreme Court Decision is president is immound from official action and a lot of what we examined was within official actions. Firing jim comey terminating a federal investigation of mime Mike Flynn probably an official action. So its unclear that much of what we did could have been investigated and real question about whether any of of that could be charged. Andrew, sitting there all the work the group did, all the work is there out there, could still be looked at if not for the supreme Court Decision. How does that make you feel in terms of the Effort And Energy that not only you two but the entire team put into this investigation. Look one reason we wrote the book is to show in i think very clear terms what the investigation was about, how we made the decisions we made during the period of time, and to look back at the facts that we looked at andcovered russia did. Veer if a sweeping way russian Military Intelligence hacked into Democratic Party accounts and then spread stolen emails in order to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump. We detail that in the book in a way to bring back what it was that we thought the investigation found. Do you Mite Mind ifive add. Central message of the book is it is critical theres a Method Or Mechanism tore investigating a sitting president whether Donald Trump or future president. Thats a Central Message of the book. Andrew, i will go to you first but would love to hear from both of you on this. It has become gospel within the Maga World that the Russia Investigation was a hoax. He says Donald Trump Russia Russia they didnt find anything on me. Because you didnt recommend charges against the former president despite the cataloging of the obstruction we found and cataloging of what you starred to lay out andrew here russia did in fact do during the 2016 election. I am curious as someone has seen the evidence and studied this as much as anyone on the planet what is your reaction to the idea russian interference in the 2016 election was a hoax . Look, its a problem. It was clearly not a hoax. The dismissal of the findings of the investigation i think has a longterm effect. Russia is interfering in the election by all Accounts Intelligence reports are showing the Department Of Justice is bringing cases that show russian interference and americans should know what a foreign power is doing to try to affect our elections. Next, we will talk with a Academy Award Nominee Margot Robbie about the new Project Right after the break. Project right after the break. When you live with diabetes, progress is. Having your coffee like you like it without an audience. 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A new satirical is take off on broadway by storm. The store the big Gay Jamboree tells the story of a failed actress who realizes she woke up trapped in her worst nightmare. An old fashioned golden Age Musical. Joining us now one of the producers of the big Gay Jamboree, acard Mi Award Actress Margot Robby and Star And Cocreator its great to have you both. I just first have to ask, you are the Star And Cocreator and corighter. How did the two of you come together on the project . Well, actually, it began years ago. She had a brilliant script and we tried to make it into a film about seven years ago. Yeah. And then actually get it off the ground. But years later, i mean i am in New York and see her at a show and i was sitting in the audience watching this performer impersonate Celine Dion and we adapted big gay Jam Bore Reto ado that in Sim Har way and i was great do you need a producer and she said yeah and hoare we are. I love how things come together. You cocreated the show also with three of your best friends this sounds like so much fun. With three of your best friends from college, and one of the costars is Alex Muffet who. Yes. Played joe my husband on snl. That was awkward for me inform any hoo what did you set out put this down. What did you set out to create here . You know, i grew up such a fan of golden Age Musicals, i came out of the womb with the hands and i wanted to create an old fashioned musical with Nostalgia And Heart and great songs, but also i wanted to give it a cant be spin so i think we have done that. I think we have done that with this and it is so much fun. The show often breaks the fourth wall. Marla, he want to hear about that and also what you hope audiences feel walking out of the show. Well, yes, we break the fourth wall a lot. I did that as well an Improv Section and we wanted to bring that because audiences loved that you never knew what to expect. So, we break the fourth wall because my Character Stacy is trapped literally, in the theater and has no idea how she got there and has to use the audience to help her get out. And i hope what people see is that it is just such fun and it has a ton of heart and you will get that nostalgia from an old Fashion Musical but had laugh your butt off because it is so funny. I hope people are blob away when they walk in and they will see a huge broadway musical. And marla, i have to ask you got Margot Robby as producer. Yeah. She is so amazing and i am wondering what its like working with Margot Robby. Is It Babylon meets Eye Tanya or barbie or all in one . Its even better. You know, i will never forget i saw margot in the audience playing a guitar Celine Dion and i see her face and is that M A. Are margot and i get a email and i thought it was spam and said should i open the email they are like threes do and it was actual Margot Robbie. What are you working on and i said this and a year later here we are. What did you see that made you reach out and actively go after this . Was it the Fun Or Talent that you saw . What you could do anything. All the above. I mean, marla has such an original voice. If you havent heard of her already, you will see this and be, you know, a Cult Follower like everyone else seems to be. She is not she is doing something No One Else is doing. Even the medium of Off Broadway has not been approached in this way before or appreciated in this way, i think. Its really playing into the medium thats so fun because it is more outrageous, you know, some trust me, you will walk down the East Village and walk into the theater and you are going to get a white card and sit down and no intermission you are going to laugh so hard you are crying. Your jaw is going to be on the floor because you are like i cant believe they are making these jokes and singing the songs and doing it. And it is so good. I mean, humor is so outrageous and funny and like relevant but it also like she says has so much high the feeling you get when you watch a golden Age Musical and you want to be there. I always felt that about marla and always been able to see as everyone else can she has this singular voice and creates something that i just dont see anyone else creating so go, trust me. You wont be mad in dont go away, we have a second hour of Morning Joe on this sunday morning. Coming up right after the break. Morning. Coming up right after the break. Moving forward with nodepositive Breast Cancer. My fear of Recurrence Couldve held me back. But im staying focused. And doing more to prevent recurrence. Verzenio is specifically for hrpositive, her2negative, nodepositive early Breast Cancer with a high chance of returning, as determined by your doctor when added to Hormone Therapy. Verzenio reduces the risk of recurrence versus Hormone Therapy alone. 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The one race she is tied in, georgia, theres latest Fox News survey of likely voters in georgia that has harris ahead of trump by 3 Percentage Points. That too of course falls within the margin of error. So, if you look at all of these, all of these polls its a tie and you talk to both campaigns they will tell you its a tie. The the Harris Campaign is very interesting. They are sending out major. You can tell the specter of The Great Pumpkin 2006 continues to rise over the Pumpkin Patch and nobody is saying we feel good. So its like well, i dont know. I dont know. I dont know. But we. We are behind. You know, we had a long crossexamination last Night Mika and i, with a member, and after about 30 minutes of breaking it down, you know, couple drinks, and they finally broke and said, okay. We feel okay. All right but No One will say that. How many drinks did it take . For them, two or three and in the spotlight on top of them. It was chained to a Chair A Metal chair. But, there is thats fun. Come up and have a drink with us tonight. Thursday night in washington. Seriously, they are so scared because what happened in 2016. When everybody was. Who wouldnt be. Who doesnt have you talked to somebody in the Harris Campaign and you have to go deep to find someone to admit polls are breaking in our Favor And Hoare shows again except for one poll which i wont name the Trend Lines have been fairly positive. They have been positive. Look, if you look at Trend Lines, you rather be Kamala Harris right now than Donald Trump. If you want to win this election right, because you look at the long Term Trend Line and you see that it has crept up and crept up, and then she is getting close to that 50 , and trump is basically steady. Hes basically got 45, 46 . Punto, thats it. But, hes overperformed the polls in some prior elections. Everybody remembers 2016. Nobody is going to feel confident and No One should feel confident because it going to be a turnout election. Right. If you get if harris gets her voters to the polls, they got The Machine out there to do it but if they get voters through the polls, then thats a very different story than if they dont. You look at numbers, obviously, in the bloomberg News Morning consult Poll Harris is doing well. The Trim Lines are very positive. You go back to before she was in the race and it was Joe Biden. You started to see states like minnesota, verge, New Hampshire, suddenly get uncomfortably close. Those races are no longer close. Trumps so it really has for those that say, oh, it will be the same. Things shifted dramatically. Major difference and the Trend Line is up for her consistently. She is we have polling showing that she is doing better on the economy than she was even two weeks ago. That she is beginning to catch up with trump on perceptions of who is better for the economy. She is out there talking about what a rich guy he is and how she is a capitalist for the middle class. Her speech where she made clear you know, as he is saying i am not a marxist i am not a socialist or communist, i am a capitalist trying to show friendliness towards business. And she has got lot of these Tax Cuts a lot of these plans for the for the young people, 25,000 i dont know where she gets the money but she is talking 25,000 credit for first time home buyers, 50,000 for Startup New Business and she is going to make end roads there. But i should say, yes, theres lot of concern about the hidden trump voters. I can tell you there are more newly registered republicans this cycle than registered democrats. Despite the stories we have been running about all the new all the college kids signing Pup And Trump is doing in that group, he is doing better among younger men of color than you expect. Right. And the one thing that we have heard from the Harris Campaign even those that will be cautiously optimistic is pens vain were a is the new ohio. Pennsylvania has had a surge in republican registration over the past four years. So, they still believe they can in pennsylvania but feel good about michigan and feel good about wisconsin. Relatively good. Maybe a landslide maybe they will within by a full Percentage Point in both states. But, in pennsylvania, they know its going to be a fight and its going to be a fight because she ising to better much better among women, and most young voters but, older white men just like people thought after biden left the race, more of a challenge pulling them to vote against trump again. Yeah, older white men. And younger white men, too. Also a challenge. That number they will up plus five in pens jane. Its the new ohio and new Florida And State where they see they have the most problems. And, of course, the concern or the upside depending on how you look at this from the Harris Campaign Point Of View is Pennsylvania Michigan and Wisconsin People think will break the same way. Thats what they have done traditionally since 1980, one exception and so if they lose pennsylvania, what would that mean for wisconsin and michigan if they win wisconsin and michigan will they win pennsylvania. Thats why they put so much resources its men. The real struggle for the Harris Campaign is young men and older men, and men of color and white men, and they are doing all they can. You can see i think the debate next week will be interesting to see how Tim Walz reaches out to the group. Doug emhoff who i interviewed we have a cliff of that for later in the program he is making concerted effort in his own way to reach out to the group. They know thats where they know thats where they have a weakness. More morning Joe Weekend after a quick break. Weekend after a quick break. When youre a smallbusiness owner, your Todo List can be. A lot. Super helpful. [ cheering ] what are invoices . 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No but our elects cost i think its i figured it out the other day, it is about 50 Million for a whole General Election in the uk. So Thats Kind of Bargain Base Minute democracy. Our is cheap. Thats the sum its less probably one congressional race in New York or california. That might win you comptroller of vermont. We are taking a bet of what he hawks next i think a trump cyber truck. I think its going to be sneakers is. He has done sneakers. Hes done this. Is that what you are wearing. No not trump sneakers. Theres a disconnect between those people who are all in for Donald Trump who sees this as like. This is okay. This is christmas morning. 100,000 for a watch can you imagine if the democrats were doing something like this. I mean. It would be Out Of Touch. The Trump Campaign was going after Kamala Harris necklaces and saying hoch they were costing. They werent this is amazing. He is entertaining. He is entertaining. Lets not forget. More seriously i was speaking to Business People this week who are Trump Leaning and they say yeah, okay, well he says all the stuff about the immigrants we dont like that we dont like his character but things were more stable under trump. The economy cas doing better. Is it true. Thats whether its true or not, those are the people who will turn out and vote for him and thats why the Harris Campaign understandably is right to be careful and cautious about the polls because they know that there are a whole bunch of people who are prepared to disregard Donald Trumps rhetoric and selling watches and selling saying i am beautiful. Deregulation and Tax Cuts thats pretty simple. Arent people supposed to manage risks. The risks. Thats it the chaos factor. Magnitude is greater than the risk. Tariffs, and chaos factor, deportation of immigrants which push of Wage Prices and a whole load of reasons but some feeling that they know what they had with trump and actually the economy was better and yes, he says this crazy stuff and sells watches and that sort of a joke, but you know, we dont take any of that. The economy was not bad for most of the people you are talking to that made more money they have made in their life. Because the markets are gone crazy. And they made it while watching the stocks go up and. They always get tens of millions of dollars that happens time and time again when democrats are in the White House the Stock Market goes up and when republicans are in the White House most of the time they are recessions. Look at again, this is the Thing Sam used to drive me crazey when trump was president. He kept saying greatest economy of all time greatest economy of all time. I think probably New York Times that did a Study Post War president s gdp. And Donald Trump precovid was number 7 behind jimmy carter. But i will be watching msnbc. I am using that as the most extreme example of the people that you would be think would be least likely to repeat Donald Trumps propaganda and the questions would start of course we know this is the best economy ever, but and you say they are going oh my god. The propaganda is worked even in the mainstream media. He is good. Seventh best gdp post war. And thats precovid. Precovid. I mean, even lower than jimmy carter. And yet, dump people who are looking for Permission Structure, who are millionaires, who want corporate Tax Cuts and regulation relief, theres oh the economy was no it was not better. And you talk to one economist after another economist and another they will say Donald Trump policies will lead to massive tariffs, massive inflation, and massive debt. Up next, we will dig into polling of young voters and what they think of Kamala Harris and Donald Trump when it comes to the key issues. You are watching morning Joe Weekend. We will be right back. Weekend. We will be right back. Question. If you cant see whats behind all this, how do you already know, its jeep . Probably the same way you know if a trex is chasing a jeep wrangler. Is getting away. Yep or if it takes you places that make you say, woah. And their Hair Looks like this. Or someone says, the doors come off. Then you just know what it was. What it is. And what it always will be. Because when youre an original, theres only one. With fatigue and lightheadedness, i knew something was wrong. Then i saw my doctor and found out i have afib, and that means theres about a 5 times greater risk of stroke. Symptoms like irregular heartbeat, heart racing, Chest Pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, or lightheadedness, can come and go. 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And just several months ago Joe Biden and the same position was leading by only 13 points. In fact, over the summertime, i had polling i looked at other polling where Donald Trump was actually leading the democratic candidates in the Battleground States so this is a massive significant shift in the last several months. We will talk about whats going into the big shift. Lets look at next one do you have a favorable or unfavorable view of the people listing candidates and their Vice President ial Running Mates what do you see. You can see blue and red is not because of democrats and republicans but because of being above water or under water. What you see is both Donald Trump and Jd Vance are under water by 28 to 30 Percentage Points. Only less than 33 out of 10 people have favorable views of them. While as Tim Walz is not credibly wellknown but he is Plus 14 and as is Kamala Harris Plus 5 and close to 50 . In the only that for the Job Approval is up 12 points in the last couple months as well. You look at difference Joe Biden was at the top of the Ticket Put that back up. Biden 19 points under water among young voters Kamala Harris, with a 5 Point Edge in favorability. That was a concern among Democrats Biden who did so well with young voters in 2020 was not resinating. Some may have been he is too old and Out Of Touch and doesnt understand mow thats changed. Vice president harris is 59 years old a couple decades younger is a top of the ticket. What are we talking about and the issues the young voters . What is hitting home and what are they concerned about . I think overwhelmingly through this Poll And Focus groups i conduct concerns about cost of living. And the economy probably. And the concern that young people have about is The American dream available to them in terms of offering the opportunity to own a home, pay for education, and those sorts of issues. Thats the driving issue. Of course shall among women and among other folks, theres heightened concerned about Row Productive Freedom And Reproductive Rights and Health Care and mental Health Care but overwhelming issue thats driving young people and concerns at this stage of the campaign is concerns about the economy and the sense of financial stability and thats what they yearn for. Its insane they believe Kamala Hearis would to be a better job than Joe Biden is doing is that how you read that . If the economy is number one concern which it is for almost everybody they think she will be better than Joe Biden has been . Yes. And so in fact, we asked a series of other question a which candidate do you trust and Vice President harris has double digit on climate and Health Care and issues and she is leading on the Economy But Show has closer 10 Point Lead among likely voters even on the economy. So this is great news for the Harriswalz Ticket the question is, will young people vote. Thats always the question we have been having this Question Debate for 15 years or so. And, of course, what comes up can come down in terms of her numbers. But mike, in 2018 and 2020, i sat here and said we will have Record Turnout and we had Record Turnout. This cycle looks close to be 2020 turnout at this stage but whens driving is actually increase in enthusiasm among young democrats. Younger Repub Crans less likely to vote today than they were back in the march survey. Significant dont think ive seen before. Typically the closer you get the more likely you are to vote. The Turnout Rolls back is not because of democrats at this stage. Its because of younger republicans. Democrats 74 democrats say they are quote definitely going to vote. Fascinating. Lets look at one more number here. Interesting, what candidate did the qualities apply to more you compare harris to former President Trump going down the list here. Appears she has the edge in all but funny i guess is the only one where theres a margin of error. I think the jury is out. But, these are attributes students actually develop based on their conversation with other people. You can see clearly 30, 40 Point Leads on Empathy Competence and relatability and strong. Most Young Americans look at Kamala Harris and Donald Trump as she is a strongest candidate i think thats meaningful and as you can see there, patriotic is a toss up something i dont think people would have necessarily expected just a couple of years ago that democrats specific Kamala Harris trying to reclaim and they are reclaiming it means tore a patriot. Donald Trump Strength versus weakness i am the big strong guy and she has an edge in the poll among young voters. Coming up, atlantic Tom Nickals will be here to talk about the column entitled policy is not going to win the election. Why he believes that. You are watching morning Joe Weekend. Are watching Morning Je weekend. 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And thats all he says tom particular ols is this stuff never would have happened if i had been there. I am going to fix everything when i get this. I alone can fix it he famously said. There are legitimate questions we asked many times on the show about Kamala Harris current positions versus where she was in 2019 and 2020 and she attempted to answer some of those including at the debate. But i am remind of our conversation last week with Hillary Clinton when we asked her for advice for Kamala Harris and she said, if people want to know in the Weeds Policy details, go to the website. Your job as a candidate is to tell a story where you want to take the country. Right. And two things to remember. One is that for trumps own people, for the republican party and for the trump faithful, trump can saying anything he wants it doesnt matter. He is not held to any kind of account about policy. That those delays we watched trump could stand there and say you know, Lake Michigan is actually full of asparagus and people doesnt know that. And you know, you have all the people behind Him Nodding going yeah thats great point. You know, it doesnt matter whether its true or false or completely insane. So, his side his people his base, and the gop they are never going to hold him to any specifics. We know that too often when hes reported on you know theres kind of a collective shrugging saying Donald Trump had a crazy rally and said lot of bonkers things. Meanwhile, you know, they turned to the democratic nominee and say, as Fred Stevens did i need to know exactly what administrative regulations are going to be rolled back as part of housing policy. First of all, nobody wins elections on that, and we have had examples of that in history. Mike dukakis, you know, was the candidate that people should have realized after that, you know when he stood there and talking about every detail and how he had gone through every line of the budget, you dont win elections on that. You win ideas and you win elections on empathy and you win election on big directions, and he think i think some of this is laying a trap especially for people who just want Permission Structure not to vote for Kamala Harris. Because they still see themselves as part of the tribe and they are thinking about what happens after the election and you know, i think thats remarkable given if she is good enough for Dic Cheney She is good enough for most conservatives. But theres an intensive effort to say i would vote for her but boy, that infrastructure you know the thing she said about infrastructure three months ago really got nd my skin so i am not sure if its her or the guy who thinks that legal immigrants should be deported. Of course. For so many of that infrastructure is because they dont want to acknowledge or vote for her because she is a Woman Or Person of color. This could mean more spot on. We have heard complaints the Vice President needs to say more about her policy and a few spaces she does but thats not what the election is about. Its contrasting vision. This view of America Put Fort by Donald Trump and nonsensical efforts to say he will fix It Verse of a happy optimistic view put forth by the Vice President. So if you are counseling her, you know, and knowing the Phenomenon Tom and joe laid out so well how should she approach her. Keep doing what she is doing. You know, step back for a second. She is only been the candidate for, what, maybe a couple months and it is extraordinary how well, she has done and how she expanded the electoral map and she raised more money that king mitas and she has done quite spectacularly well as candidate from 0 to 100 in virtually no time. And so, think she must be doing something right. And if i were counseling her i would say no, dont try to give speeches to your Rally Crowds or to Bret Stevens or anybody about the details and weeds of your housing policy. Continue to talk about Hope And Joy and your vision for the future. Continue to talk about turning the page. And give the outlines of how you are going to do that. And you know, think look, i think she is doing well. Coming up, former british Prime Minister Tony Blare is our guest and says the new book is the Leadership Manual he wishes he had when he was living at 10 downing. He joins us next on morning Joe Weekend. Next on morning Joe Weekend. This one is for you. Missing out on the things you love because of asthma . Get back to better breathing with fasenra, an Addon Treatment for Eosinophilic Asthma that is taken once every 8 weeks. Fasenra is not for sudden Breathing Problems or other eosinophilic conditions. Allergic reactions may occur. 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I was just reflecting on the Aging Process being visibly brought to the screen there. I notice you marveling at the young man on screen. Yeah who is this guy. Marveling at the moment, though, when you think about the negotiations that led to that historic agreement, what did it take on the theme of leadership to get you to that day . And as we think about whats happening right now negotiations of a potential ceasefire as we sit here speak in the u. N. General Assembly Secretary Blinken was here trying to get Hezbollah And Israel to stop firing long enough to reach a deal. What does it take to reach agreement on problems that once seem untractable. We managed to bring about the peace in Northern Ireland although the book is more as much about the mistakes as the things that went well. But, i think you need at least three things you need a Framework Agreement that people regard as just and fair. That pays attention to the narratives of both sides. And you need leadership that is willing to take risks for peace. And the final thing is you need absolute relentless focus. So when i made that speech it was another ten years or nine years before we actually got the parties who had been bitterly opposed to Each Other sitting together and governing together in Northern Ireland. I think its these are difficult things, but basically, you are in situation and the same with the Middle East where people are living Side By side, so theres no alternative that works but to live in peace. So, lets look then at the Middle East right now. Do you see hope where others do not see hope that there can be some kind of a resolution. Obviously youve been if favor of a twostate solution. I trust you are still. Do you hold out hope despite everything we have seen for the last 12 months nearly now since October 7th and obviously for years before that that there can be a peaceful resolution to the conflict . I mean, i still hold out hope. I am never sure whether its rational or comes from an innate optimism that cant be suppressed. But, ultimately, i mean, the immediate and the longterm. Immediate terms, you require a situation where the people in the north of israel are able to go back to their homes free from attacks from hezbollah or across the board. Remember October 7th happened, and that was the attack from gaza on israel. But on october 8th, Hezbollah Start attacking israelis in the north. So, the problem is for almost a year now, the families have been displaced from their homes and so this has been a Running Sore thats getting dealt with now but it was a problem all the way through. So the only way you are going to get a resolution shortterm is if people are allowed to return to their homes in peace and then hezbollah also because of course people displaced on the lebanese border as well. Hezbollah go back to where they are supposed to be under the u. N. Resolution that ended the 2006 war. They have not been there. Its important people understand that. They have been literally across the border from israel when under that resolution they are supposed to be several miles back. Joe. Yeah, mr. Prime minister, when we talk about the Middle East it seems like its intractable. That is no way forward but people are saying the same thing about Northern Ireland. And one of the things you talk about in your book is understanding when that window opens and when it is time to close the deal. Could you go into that a bit more. For people who may not have been around 25, 26 years or paying close attention, people are saying the same thing about Northern Ireland and peace there this they are saying peace in the Middle East. Talk about again, in this book how you talk about finding the time where you have to close the deal. Yeah, so, the important thing is you got to create a situation which negotiation can succeed and while the Fight Something going on it is very hard for people to come together because if you are in gaza right now and part of the population there, theres been huge disruption, many people have lost their lives. If you are in israel, you are remembering what happened October 7th. You got hostages kept if gaza. So the very first thing you got to do is have an agreement i think is all about what happens in gaza after the War Ends and who governs gaza. You have to have that agreement short term before you can open up the window you are talking about. So, we need both in the north with lebanon and in the south with gaza you need to calm the situation and then people may be able to speak to Each Other about how the future looks and how it unfolds because right now, you got a situation where the war continues, the suffering continues, and its hard for me to see how either side while that is the case, is going to think about longterm questions about a Palestinian State. So, you know, in the international community your president and my Prime Ministers all of us talk about twostate solution. Secure state of israel independent state of palestine but if you are in israel that seems unreallot realistic. Shortterm make sure you have a plan to calm the situation in gaza gets you some stability there, and then you can talk about the longterm. Mr. Prime minister, on another conflict many praised leadership of ukrainian President Zelenskyy who is in washington presenting his victory plan. Give your thoughts as where you see the future of the War And Model thats he showcase versus what you write about in the book about the Putin Model of governance. Yeah, absolutely. So, in my view its simple. Ukraine conflict will not end the way the first War World or second World War ended. Theres going to be an agreement of sorts. The important thing for us is to give ukraine every support so they are in better position to negotiate that agreement in a way that doesnt reward russian aggression. This was, you know, an attack on a country democratically elected president and whose people and country offered no threat to anybody. And if President Mudu put un is allowed to succeed in in a objective, if you talk to East European leaders they will think they are at risk. So its an important moment to show the west got staying Power And Determination and resolve to understand right and wrong and to stand up for the ukrainian people and make sure that when that agreement comes, its one that is fair to them, and one that doesnt encourage either this russian president or a future russian president to try this again. Still ahead, Emmy Award winning Courtney B Vance is standing by with a first look at his new new show on Fx And Hulu when Morning Joe comes right back. Hulu when Morning J right back. Known as a passionate artist. Known for loving the outdoors. Known for getting everyone together. No one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. Keytruda is known to treat cancer. Fdaapproved for 17 types of cancer, including certain earlystage cancers. One of those cancers is triplenegative Breast Cancer. 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How many of you were asked to send a nude of yourself . If if you put out a concept like kim kardashian did maybe you will get famous. Social Media Consumption is 12 hours a day. You edit your body to be something its not. One of the major Beauty Thing is you have to be caucasian. People are call you N Word and i take action and they to being my account down. Its frightening to see how sexualized some of these images are. I sort of dont want to look at my kids tiktok. Gorgeous. The more too many i spend on social media the more anxious i feel. Its so scarry that we are allowed to do this. Social media has a role in everything, doesnt it . That was a look at the new Fxdocu Series entitled social studies. The ground breaking social experiment offers unprecedented access into the digital lives of teens in Los Angeles. The first generation raised on social media exposing profound impact on their development and mental health. Joining us now is award winning Documentary Filmmaker Lauren greenfield who is the series creator director. And executive producer. Thank you so much for doing this. Oh, thanks for having me. Where do we begin . Give us some examples of what you found . What surprised you, going into this, and what you thought you would find versus what you found. I mean i think one of the most important things about the series is that the kids involved shared their phones. And so, we had the chance, which we never normally do, of actual hi seeing whats impacting them which is so important. What i saw is that its completely changed childhood, that in some ways theres no more innocence because of the exposure. But i think more than anything, the kids participated because they wanted to tell us whats going on. They wanted their voices to be heard. They were unbelievably candid in this series. Lets listen to their comments about what many see as the holy grail of social media. Going viral. Who in here has gone viral . Show of hands. Oh my gosh, everybody has gone viral. With like kim k she got famous for this Sex Tape and so like, platforms like tiktok where anybody can get famous, if you put out content like kim kardashian did, maybe you will get famous. If i could become a multi millionaire with a giant Company Andp as famous as kim kardashian i am release my Sex Tape a Sex Tape. She is famous and has her Company And Show does her family. There wouldnt be a conversation like this ever if there werent phones and social media and its happening younger and they are getting exposed to everything so much younger. What do you think the impact of this will be and do you foresee any major legal action . I think that what we learned from the kids is how toxic the constant comparison is. They are living in a world of 247 Comparison And Teenagehood was about looking at your peers, and looking at who was in your click, but now the kids are looking at the entire world. And fixsional manufactured images they are comparing themselves to. And so when we saw even in our small group was an explosion of body image issues, eating disorders, and mental health problems. Suicidal ideation. And just the constant pressure. I call it the Algorithm Pressure which replaced peer pressure. And i think that the kids give us a kind of map of what can be done about this. So obviously so important and dangerous this idea of the trying to project the image on the world that unrealistic image. But another part is bullying. What did they tell you about that . There are a lot of stories about bullying over race and shaming and what the kids say with anonymity of social media theres so much more kind of harmful talk. And even in the stories, theres a vigilante who starts taking action against all of the kind of bad things that are said on social media and bad things that are done in the world. But i think the important thing here is that we cant blame the kids. And i think that, here we see it from the Kids Point of view, and its a very nonjudgmental Point Of View. And i think we cant expect kids to selfregulate. We need regulation, we need, you know, tech companies to take action. Thats all the time we have for this weekend. Thanks for watching. We will see you right here Tomorrow Morning bright and early at 6 00 a. M. For a new week of Morning Joe. Until then, enjoy the rest of your weekend. The rest of your weekend