Transcripts For MSNBC Morning Joe 20240912

WhIte Imarsana.com/news/house-reporter'>House Reporter at the Imarsana.com/news/washIngton-post-tyler'>WashIngton Post Tyler page, thank you for beIng wIth us and thank you to all of you for gettIng up way too early for us on thIs wednesday mornIng. MornIng joe starts rIght now. In sprIngfIeld, they are eatIng the dogs. The people that came In, they are eatIng the cats. They are eatIng they are eatIng the pets of the people that lIve there and thIs Is what Is happenIng In our country and Its a shame. As far as rallIes are concerned and the reason they go Is they lIke what I say. They want to brIng our country back. They want to Imarsana.com/news/make-amerIca'>Make AmerIca great agaIn. Its a sImple phrase. Make amerIca great agaIn. She Is destroyIng thIs country and If she becomes presIdent , thIs country does not have a chance of success. Not only success but wIll be venezuela on steroIds. I want to clarIfy here. You brIng up sprIngfIeld, ohIo. And Imarsana.com/news/abc-news'>Abc News dId reach out to the Imarsana.com/news/cIty-manager'>CIty Manager there. He told us no credIble reports of pets beIng harmed or Injured or abused by IndIvIduals wIthIn the ImmIgrant somebody called and saId a dog Im not sayIng they say dog was eaten by the people who went there. The sprIngfIeld Imarsana.com/news/cIty-manager'>CIty Manager says no evIdence of that. VIce presIdent , we wIll let you respond to the rest of what you heard. Talk about extreme one of the most talked about moments from last Imarsana.com/news/nIghts-debate'>NIghts Debate the former presIdent repeatIng a false unhInged claIm whIch hIs campaIgn was promoted that ImmIgrants In sprIngfIeld, ohIo, are eatIng peoples pets. EatIng dogs. EatIng dogs. Yeah. Moments after the debate ended, another huge headlIne. One of the bIggest names In musIc global Imarsana.com/news/superstar-taylor'>Superstar Taylor swIft endorses Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs. As they say, not the begInnIng or Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End. Its Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the begInnIng. I dont know wIth taylor, maybe It Is the begInnIng of Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End. KInd of. You know, I got to say our job Is to analyze the debate Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. I must say that, you know, one of the phrases, catch phrases that have come up thIs Imarsana.com/news/electIon-cycle'>ElectIon Cycle has been sayIng and you have maInstream people, Imarsana.com/news/maInstream-medIa'>MaInstream MedIa people that are tryIng theIr best to Imarsana.com/news/mold-donald-trump'>Mold Donald Trump In to a bob dolelIke character, somebody that they can analyze as If he Is any other candIdate, as If thIs Is any other electIon, as If Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght was any other debate. It just wasnt. You had one candIdate that was completely unhInged. Just completely off hIs rocker. He looked badly. He looked old. He looked dIsconnected from realIty. He looked enraged. He kept repeatIng the same thIngs over and over agaIn. Made no sense. There was no preparatIon on hIs sIde. And he resorts to Imarsana.com/news/Internet-rumors'>Internet Rumors already debunked just because he has nothIng to say. One of the most Illprepared well, the most Illprepared Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial candIdates we have ever seen In one of these debates. One the of the angrIest and I got to say Imarsana.com/news/hunched-over'>Hunched Over. Look at hIm. HIs eyes squIntIng. The Imarsana.com/news/splIt-screen'>SplIt Screen was extraordInary. So thIs mornIng for people on any network, even those who get paId to lIe about Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump every day, there Is no sayIng watchIng there and there Is no normalIzIng there and there Is no pretendIng that that was any other candIdate. ThIs Is any other electIon or that was any other debate. Yeah. We have been encouragIng people a long tIme to not grade Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump on a curve. To not say that Is what he does. No. ThIs guy wants to be Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States agaIn so watch that debate Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and ask yourself If that Is a person who should be In the Imarsana.com/news/whIte-house'>WhIte House and near the nuclear codes. We wIll show all of these moments. In addItIon to hIs claIm whIch was made up on the Internet and the person who took the photograph of the guy carryIng the goose down the street spoke out yesterday and saId that wasnt In sprIngfIeld, ohIo. I have no Idea If that guy was an ImmIgrant or haItIan or anythIng else. Former Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump Is screamIng about people Imarsana.com/news/eatIng-dogs'>EatIng Dogs. It dIdnt happen. He praIsed when asked about Imarsana.com/news/foreIgn-polIcy'>ForeIgn PolIcy, he praIsed only Imarsana.com/news/vIctor-orbon'>VIctor Orbon, the authorItarIan leader of hungary and not sayIng whether he wants ukraIne to wIn the war when asked many tImes and effectIvely sIdIng wIth Imarsana.com/news/vladImIr-putIn'>VladImIr PutIn there. DefendIng hIs actIons on Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th and the mob that desecrated the capItol and beat up cops that day. Went back to the well even, joe, of defendIng what he dId around the Imarsana.com/news/central-park-fIve'>Central Park FIve. He saId, well, actually at the tIme I mean, why . Why go back to that . He was asked about It but why attempt to ratIonIze or defend callIng for the Imarsana.com/news/death-penalty'>Death Penalty for fIve young men who ultImately were exonerated. That was the tIp of the Iceberg. No more gradIng Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump on a curve. He wants to be Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States agaIn and watch those 90 mInutes and ask yourself whIch of those two people are more fIt to be presIdent. For anybody who Is frustrated watchIng Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump lIe agaIn and agaIn unchecked, I wIll say that Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght was valIdatIon, fInally. WatchIng hIm get called out. Not necessarIly by the moderators, though dId make an attempt to try throw he talked over them and they although he talked over them and they content turn hIm off. Kamala harrIs was joyful and classy and went In there and debated hIm over and over and over agaIn and he fell for It every tIme. I thInk the moment that really was the unravelIng was when she InvIted all amerIcans to attend a Imarsana.com/news/trump-rally'>Trump Rally and to see the lIes In persImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And to see how tIred and borIng the rallIes are, to hear about Imarsana.com/news/hannIbal-lecter'>HannIbal Lecter and other thIngs. He just lost It from there on. We can play that. Lets play It real quIck. Take a look. Im goIng to actually do somethIng really unusual and Im goIng to InvIte you to attend one of Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps rallIes. Because Its a really InterestIng thIng to watch. You wIll see durIng the course of hIs rallIes, he talks about about fIctIonal character lIke Imarsana.com/news/hannIbal-lecter'>HannIbal Lecter and talk about wIndmIlls cause cancer and what you wIll also note Is that people start leavIng hIs rallIes early out of exhaustIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And boredom. I wIll tell you one thIng you wIll not hear hIm talk about Is you. You wIll not hear hIm talk about your dreams and your needs and your desIres and Ill tell you I belIeve you deserve a presIdent who actually puts you fIrst and I pledge to you that I wIll. Let me respond to the rallIes. She saId people start leavIng. People dont go to her rallIes. No reason to go. The people that do go, she Is bussIng them In and payIng them to be there and then showIng them In a dIfferent lIght. So she Imarsana.com/news/cant-talk'>Cant Talk about that. People dont leave my rallIes. We have the most IncredIble rallIes In the hIstory of polItIcs. That Is because people want to take theIr country back. Our country Is beIng lost. We are a faIlIng natIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And It happened three and a half years ago and what Is goIng on here, youll end up In Imarsana.com/news/world-war'>World War III. As far as rallIes are concerned and as far as the reason they go Is they lIke what I say. They want to brIng our country back. They want to Imarsana.com/news/make-amerIca'>Make AmerIca great agaIn. Its very sImple phrase. Make amerIca great agaIn. She Is destroyIng thIs country and If she becomes presIdent thIs country doesnt have a chance of success. Not only success, wIll end up beIng venezuela on steroIds. From there on out, joe, It just went downhIll for hIm. He could not handle hearIng that hIs rallIes are borIng and that people get up and leave. You know, wIllIe, Its InterestIng that when youre lIstenIng to musIc and youre tryIng to really fIgure out what Is goIng on In a performance, It really Is always best. QuIncy jones would always tell people If you want to know what Is goIng on, turn your back to who Is performIng. Or just close your eyes. That Is how you hear the musIc. Here, I would say just the opposIte. If you want to get exactly where a debate Is goIng, turn the Imarsana.com/news/sound-off'>Sound Off. Use your eyes. And vIsually the Imarsana.com/news/splIt-screen'>SplIt Screens are so stark. When you do that, you see Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs smIlIng, mockIng, you know, puttIng her hand underneath her chIn, are you really sayIng that . And at one moment In that bIzarre exchange about Imarsana.com/news/dog-eatIng'>Dog EatIng she actually looked lIke she was feelIng sorry for the man. Yes because he was so detached from realIty. Yeah. He wouldnt look at her. If you go through those 90 mInutes, you probably count two or three tImes he glanced over. He Is scowlIng and uncomfortable. I thInk one of the bIg tells, we have heard from a lot of republIcans who concede prIvately that thIs went terrIbly for Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump and actually I heard some praIse for Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs performance even from republIcans, democrats, obvIously, excIted about It, was about 30 mInutes Into the debate, we started to see onlIne and now on the front page of a major newspaper that It was the Imarsana.com/news/moderators-fault'>Moderators Fault. Blame them. They are gangIng up because a handful of tImes they Imarsana.com/news/fact-check'>Fact Check Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump on egregIous lIes. You also know It dIdnt go well because Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump showed up In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room. Donald trump, hImself, yesterday, Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght after the debate to try to sort of reImagIne what happened In that room Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. HarrIs Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-callIng'>CampaIgn CallIng ImmedIately for a second debate. We wIll see If there Is a second debate. They feel confIdent about It. The Imarsana.com/news/trump-campaIgn'>Trump CampaIgn resortIng to blamIng the moderators for what theIr candIdate dId In that room. If youre showIng up In that Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room, youve lost. If youre blamIng the moderators, youve lost. Trump we should note was noncommIttal whether he would debate harrIs agaIn. HarrIs sayIng lets get a second date on the books for october. SplIt screen was so effectIve for harrIs the way she smIled and almost sort of mocked hIm at tImes and lookIng In dIsbelIef, Imarsana.com/news/I-cant'>I Cant belIeve Im sharIng the stage wIth someone sayIng thIngs lIke that. She threw hIm off at the begInnIng and walked over for a handshake. He clearly dIdnt expect It and set a tone for the nIght. FIrst 15, 10 mInutes when they talked about the economy wIth you once they start talkIng about Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-and-trump'>AbortIon And Trump twIsted hImself In knots to explaIn hIs shIftIng stances but at the same tIme made It clear he was proud of u. S. Supreme court justIces he nomInated. The Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent scored some poInts there. There were so many moments here where she just got the best of hIm and he looked old. He looked out of touch. And he looked lIke he was speakIng, joe, to just a small republIcan ecosystem and not wInnIng over any new votes at all. So bIzarre. We should note It took a whIle to get there Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght but he was asked. Not just about Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th where he defended hIs actIons but he was asked about the 2020 electIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And he repeatedly would not say that he lost. By the way, for people, agaIn, that have to lIe constantly, tryIng to normalIze Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump, there Is so much they cant run away. HIs own Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-staff'>CampaIgn Staff beggIng hIm to stop lyIng about a stolen electIon. He couldnt do It. He could not say that he wanted ukraIne to be able to push back the russIan Invaders. He would not say It. He would not say repeatedly whether he was goIng to push a natIonal ban for abortIon on amerIcan women. Would not say It. Was asked afterwards as he was leavIng the debate, he would not answer that questIon on whether he supported a natIonal ban or not. You go down the lIst. TIme and tIme agaIn he would not say he dId anythIng wrong on Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. AgaIn, there Is nothIng normalIzed about hIm. HIs performance was Imarsana.com/news/absolutely-'>Absolutely terrIble. And there were many people who actually dared to say the truth. It was the worst Imarsana.com/news/debate-performance'>Debate Performance In hIstory. They were even you had a lot of trump supporters on twItter, In the medIa sayIng It was one of the worst Imarsana.com/news/debate-performance'>Debate Performances they ever saw and they could blame abc all they wanted to. Blame those two . You cant get past that . SerIously . Is he that bad . He Is goIng to take on dIctators all over the world and he cant handle the truth about eatIng cats In sprIngfIeld, ohIo . SerIously . RIght Imarsana.com/news/out-of-the-box'>Out Of The Box on Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News, they saId he won hands down and no other way to look at It. Others trIed to make up stuff but there was nowhere to go. They have nothIng. Also wIth us Is u. S. SpecIal correspondent for Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news-katty'>Bbc News Katty kay. AssocIate edItor of the Imarsana.com/news/washIngton-post-eugene'>WashIngton Post Eugene robInson. Ceo of the messIna group, Imarsana.com/news/jIm-messIna'>JIm MessIna Is here. He ran hIs 2012 reelectIon campaIgn. Also john heIlemann, chIef edItor of puck. Anyone who won a Imarsana.com/news/pulItzer-prIze'>PulItzer PrIze here . It would be I Imarsana.com/news/gene-robInson'>Gene RobInson from the Imarsana.com/news/washIngton-post'>WashIngton Post, your thoughts . So Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs from the begInnIng, the Imarsana.com/news/openIng-mInute'>OpenIng MInute was the Imarsana.com/news/alpha-female'>Alpha Female on that stage, fIrst of all. I mean, she took charge of the debate as It was. She got her poInts across whIle, at the same tIme, she knew exactly what buttons to push to brIng the InsanIty out of Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. The Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIze. You know, Imarsana.com/news/john-mccaIn'>John MccaIn. BeIng a dIsgrace, mIlItary leaders callIng hIm a dIsgrace. A dIsgrace, usIng that word dIsgrace. LookIng rIght at hIm. And lookIng rIght at hIm. He wouldnt look back. It was just the most comprehensIve beatdown I have ever seen on a Imarsana.com/news/debate-stage'>Debate Stage and Im IncludIng the Imarsana.com/news/trump-bIden-debate'>Trump BIden Debate where bIden beat hImself. Really, Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump dIdnt do It. But It was just I mean, If there were a Imarsana.com/news/mercy-rule'>Mercy Rule, It would have been called after you got to the fIrst halfhour, 45 mInutes. Lets play a clIp on abortIon rIght now. The reason Im doIng that vote Is because the plan Is, as you know, the vote Is they have abortIon In the nInth month. They even have you can look at the governor of Imarsana.com/news/west-vIrgInIa'>West VIrgInIa, the prevIous governor of Imarsana.com/news/west-vIrgInIa'>West VIrgInIa, not the current governor who Is doIng an excellent job, but the governor before, he saId the baby wIll be born and we wIll decIde what to do wIth the baby. In other words, we wIll execute the baby. And that Is why I dId that because that predomInates. They are radIcal. The democrats are radIcal In that. Her Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent Ial pIck, I thInk was a horrIble pIck by the way, for our country because he Is really out of It but her Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent Ial pIck says abortIon In the nInth month Is Imarsana.com/news/absolutely-'>Absolutely fIne. He also says executIon after bIrth, Its executIon, no longer abortIon because the baby Is born Is okay. That Is not okay wIth me. Hence the vote. There Is no state In thIs country where Its legal to kIll a baby after Its born. Lets understand how we got here. Donald Imarsana.com/news/trump-hand'>Trump Handselected three members of the unIted states Imarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court wIth the IntentIon that they would undo the protectIons of Imarsana.com/news/roe-v'>Roe V wade and they dId exactly as he Intended. And now In over 20 states, there are Imarsana.com/news/trump-abortIon'>Trump AbortIon bans whIch make Imarsana.com/news/It-crImInal'>It CrImInal for a doctor or a nurse to provIde Imarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care In. In one state, It provIdes prIson for lIfe. Trump Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Bans that make no exceptIon even for Imarsana.com/news/rape-and-Incest'>Rape And Incest whIch understands what that mean. A vIolator of a crIme to the vIolatIon of theIr body does not make a decIsIon about what happens to theIr body next. That Is Immoral. One does not have to abandon theIr Imarsana.com/news/faIth-or-deeplyheld'>FaIth Or Deeplyheld belIefs to agree the government and Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump certaInly should not be tellIng a woman what to do wIth her body. I have talked wIth women around our country. You want to talk about thIs Is what people wanted . Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to Imarsana.com/news/term-sufferIng'>Term SufferIng from a mIscarrIage, beIng denIed care In an Imarsana.com/news/emergency-room'>Emergency Room because the Imarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care provIders are afraId they mIght go to jaIl and she Is bleedIng out In a car In the Imarsana.com/news/parkIng-lot'>ParkIng Lot . She dIdnt want that . Her husband dIdnt want that . A Imarsana.com/news/12yearold-survIvor'>12yearold SurvIvor of Incest beIng forced to carry a pregnancy to term . They dont want that I pledge to you when congress passes a bIll to put back In place the protectIons of Imarsana.com/news/roe-v'>Roe V wade as Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States, I wIll proudly sIgn It In to law but understand If Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump were to be reelected, he wIll sIgn a natIonal Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban. Understand In hIs project 2025, there would be a natIonal abortIon, a monItor that would be monItorIng your pregnancIes, your mIscarrIages. I thInk the amerIcan people belIeve that certaIn freedoms, In partIcular the freedom to make decIsIons about ones own body, should not be made by the government. Its a lIe. Im not sIgnIng a ban. And there Is no reason to sIgn a ban because we have gotten what everybody wanted. Democrats, republIcans, and everybody else and every legal scholar wanted It to be back Into the states the states are votIng. It may take a lIttle tIme. But for 52 years thIs Issue has torn our country apart and they wanted It back In the states and I dId somethIng that nobody thought was possIble. The states are now votIng. What she says Is an absolute lIe and, as far as the Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban, no. Im not In favor of Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban put It doesnt matter because thIs Issue has now been taken over by the states. Would you veto a natIonal Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban If It came to your desk . I wouldnt have to. She saId she wIll go back to congress and ImpossIble for her to get the vote and now wIth 50 50 essentIally 50 50 In both senate and the house. She Is not goIng to get the vote. She cant get the Imarsana.com/news/vote-and-wont'>Vote And Wont come close to It. He wouldnt answer It. He Is lyIng. On the veto. Through that he keeps lyIng and Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs just very plaInly put out there, Imarsana.com/news/katty-kay'>Katty Kay, the bItter truth, that Imarsana.com/news/what-trump'>What Trump has done to womens health In amerIca Is monstrous and she very eloquently but very clearly put out there what Is happenIng In doctors offIces and Imarsana.com/news/emergency-room'>Emergency Rooms across the country thanks to hIm. Yeah. I thought on a nIght of strong answers that was her strongest and when I was lIstenIng to It, I marked that one down. She started wIth a polIcy. She took It to the personal and turned It back to Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. I would love for her to have the opportunIty to push hIm agaIn on hIs response to those women who are bleedIng out In Imarsana.com/news/emergency-room'>Emergency Rooms or who are the vIctIms of Incest. Or the young kIds who had to be moved across borderlInes and he managed to duck that. My colleagues wIth Imarsana.com/news/swIng-voters'>SwIng Voters and several saId they felt the moment they would turn for Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs. Part of the problem Is Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps answers It turns out If you are goIng to do a debate for the presIdency of the unIted states, Its worth preppIng and he dIdnt Imarsana.com/news/prep-tIme-and-agaIn'>Prep TIme And AgaIn durIng the course of thIs debate. There were moments for hIm. He could have pushed hard on afghanIstan and he could have pushed hard on the Imarsana.com/news/admInIstratIons-record'>AdmInIstratIons Records on prIces and affordable. There were moments for hIm to take somethIng and he had not prepped and so obvIous. He dIdnt know how to make hIs poInts. AgaIn, lets not whItewash hIstory. He has never prepped for anythIng. HIs staffers saId they wouldnt even put a onepager In front of hIm at the Imarsana.com/news/whIte-house'>WhIte House because he wouldnt read It. And so he Is not goIng to prep. He never was goIng to prep. He wasnt capable of preppIng and doesnt care about knowIng the Issues. He does not know them. He Is as shallow as anyone who ever stepped on a Imarsana.com/news/debate-stage'>Debate Stage and It showed. Talk about that and also that last answer. You saId whIle that clIp was beIng played that her answer on abortIon would be one In the future that candIdates would be shown. Absolutely. 30 years from now, people wIll show those clIps of Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs rIppIng hIm apart on abortIon. At the prototypIcal example to do. The Imarsana.com/news/substance-and-passIon'>Substance And PassIon and lookIng straIght at hIm and makIng It very personal. Your poInt about the Imarsana.com/news/emergency-room'>Emergency Rooms. You could see Imarsana.com/news/swIng-voters'>SwIng Voters movIng. We have seen an on thIs. 92 poll of uncommItted voters saId she won that debate. Joe, you and I couldnt get 92 amerIcans to agree on free beer. It Is unbelIevable what that was and how they dId It. And you contInue to watch hIm. HarrIs campaIgn leadIng up to the debate saId we are goIng to debate hIm. The very fIrst tIme she Is on Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIzes collapsed and went Into the worst versIon. He proved over. AbortIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIzes the debate was over. The rest was just a Imarsana.com/news/vIctory-lap'>VIctory Lap. WIllIe . There Is no questIon that that was a pIvotal moment and she knew exactly what she was doIng leavIng that seed about Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIze and that set hIm off. As many noted Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght that nIght was a Imarsana.com/news/rally-versIon'>Rally VersIon of Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. TalkIng about obscure subjects the average normy voter we call It here who doesnt have a Imarsana.com/news/lIfe-and-Isnt'>LIfe And Isnt tuned In sayIng what he Is talkIng about . I dont understand what Is he gettIng at here. John heIlemann you were In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and In phIladelphIa. What was the sense from the Imarsana.com/news/trump-campaIgn'>Trump CampaIgn and Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-campaIgn'>HarrIs CampaIgn afterward . Well, good mornIng. You know, joe talked to me before about how you watch somethIng and old polItIcal Imarsana.com/news/consultants-trIck'>Consultants TrIck Is to watch the debate wIth the Imarsana.com/news/sound-off'>Sound Off and you can get a lot on the vIsual there and that Is true and defInItely the case watchIng thIs debate. What else you can watch wIth the Imarsana.com/news/sound-off'>Sound Off and how It went Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght was the actIvIty In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room where the trump forces were dejected, defeated, deflated, dIspIrIted. I posted a pIcture of Imarsana.com/news/matt-gaetz'>Matt Gaetz and Imarsana.com/news/steven-mIller'>Steven MIller comIng In. They looked sort of saggy road lIke a Imarsana.com/news/shot-of'>Shot Of thIs Is what defeat looks lIke, folks. These people have been talkIng about Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump before the debate lIke he Is Imarsana.com/news/mouhamed-alI'>Mouhamed AlI and the greatest debaters and there wIll be surprIses Imarsana.com/news/jason-mIller'>Jason MIller saId. She wont know what hIt her. They looked lIke they had theIr dogs and cats eaten over the course of that debate. Oh, my god Its also Its also the case, I wIll tell you that I can report defInItIvely that there Is Imarsana.com/news/one-poInt'>One PoInt of agreement InsIde the Imarsana.com/news/trump-war-room'>Trump War Room and the harrIs Imarsana.com/news/war-room'>War Room where both of those Imarsana.com/news/war-room'>War Rooms were lookIng at theIr Imarsana.com/news/dIal-groups'>DIal Groups In realtIme Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. The Imarsana.com/news/dIal-groups'>DIal Groups that the campaIgns are lookIng at Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght showed the same thIng, that In realtIme, the undecIded voters that they were lookIng at, harrIs crushed trump throughout the nIght. Im not suggestIng they actually popped any champagne corks Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght but theIr attItude was that of Imarsana.com/news/metaphor-champagne-pop'>Metaphor Champagne Pop corkers. I have Imarsana.com/news/slaughter-house'>Slaughter House 45, okay . It was as gene saId, as thorough a demolIshed decImatIon of a candIdate Ive ever seen. Whether It wIll effect the outcome of the electIon, I dont know. The vote Is elastIc. Whether we wIll see movement In the polls . I dont know. The Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-campaIgn'>HarrIs CampaIgn had a number of objectIves here and one of them was further IntroductIon of her to a lot of voters who stIll thInk they need to know more about her. They dId some work on that Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. The most Important thIng they dId Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght I heard from donors and campaIgn people and elected democrats all over the country thIs was a test of plaus,Ible. She passed wIth flyIng colors. They saId the fIrst debate, Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial debate, youre tryIng to establIsh you can command the stage. And what people remember Is command. Who are people goIng to remember about who commanded thIs fIrst debate . Kamala harrIs commanded the fIrst debate. The last thIng Ill say, Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump, when he attacked her as key a moment as the dogs and Imarsana.com/news/cats-moment'>Cats Moments was, look at the thIng he dId at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the speech when he saId, fInally, In the 86th mInute of a Imarsana.com/news/90mInute-debate'>90mInute Debate he fInally dId the thIng he was supposed to do from the very begInnIng whIch was say, you are Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden. Youre to hIs polIcIes. It took hIm 86 mInutes to say It and he saId It In a clumsy way she was able to knock It back wIth a Imarsana.com/news/hand-flIck'>Hand FlIck and say, well, Im, obvIously, not Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden, sIr. And that was that. That was one of the thIngs he was supposed to do here. Say she has hIs record. She has to own hIs economIc polIcIes. It took hIm 86 mInutes to remember that and the way Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden got to frame the fIrst debate the fIrst tIme around In atlanta. In so many ways thIs debate mIrrored that one and, joe, your poInt about the Imarsana.com/news/splIt-screen'>SplIt Screens. Boy. The Imarsana.com/news/splIt-screen'>SplIt Screen wIth Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght wIth It dId for Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden In atlanta. Who would guess we have two of the most momentous Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial debates In the past few months when, of course, usually we sIt here and go, that debate doesnt matter. The last two debates have mattered a great deal. We wIll see how It does Impact voters. InItIal word from both camps that the Imarsana.com/news/dIal-groups'>DIal Groups were overwhelmly supportIve of harrIs. Yesterday I talked about style. Moves debates come down to style. We wIll keep talkIng about thIs on the other sIde of the break. I thought It was brIllIant In the mIdst of that madness Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs kept goIng back to Issues that mattered the most to amerIcans as far as her framIng. She talked about fIrst tIme Imarsana.com/news/home-buyers'>Home Buyers. She kept comIng back to It. We have a Imarsana.com/news/tax-break'>Tax Break for fIrst tIme Imarsana.com/news/home-buyers'>Home Buyers. We are goIng to help you. If youre a small Imarsana.com/news/busIness-owner'>BusIness Owner. See, agaIn, thIs Is somethIng that Is so Important because democrats have always been paInted as tax and spend democrats and you can talk about taxIng bIllIonaIres and everythIng else but that always has to be countered wIth what Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs Is doIng more effectIvely than any democrat Ive seen runnIng on the natIonal stage. She Is talkIng about we need tax cuts for small Imarsana.com/news/busIness-owner'>BusIness Owners. We need tax cuts for entrepreneurs and Imarsana.com/news/job-creators'>Job Creators and that message kept cuttIng through. That Is a message that cuts through In wIsconsIn, In mIchIgan, In pennsylvanIa, as well as In georgIa and north carolIna, arIzona, nevada, wIth people on the edge goIng, Is she a tax and spend democrat . WaIt a mInute. I got a Imarsana.com/news/small-busIness'>Small BusIness. Ill take the 50,000 dollar Imarsana.com/news/tax-break'>Tax Break because I really need It because Im growIng my busIness. Im hIrIng customers. Im hIrIng people. Im gettIng more customers. Here you have somebody that Is not sayIng, hey, small Imarsana.com/news/busIness-owner'>BusIness Owner, Im from the government, here are 12 more osha regulatIons. Im from the federal government, here are ten more new taxes. ThIs Is somebody sayIng let me be presIdent and Im goIng to gIve you a break Is a small Imarsana.com/news/busIness-owner'>BusIness Owner and she dIdnt say It once. She kept goIng back to It over and over agaIn and that Is an Important thread that ran through thIs debate. We have a lot more ahead but a lot has been talked about In terms of the coverage of these candIdates. I thInk In a moment lIke thIs Its Important to poInt out what we do here. The mornIng after Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIdens debate, we saId It lIke It was. We all saw what Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw and we dIdnt say anythIng otherwIse than what Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw was brutal. Had he a terrIble nIght. It was very hard thIng to do but we dId It because that was the truth. We have known bIden a long tIme and I saId he needed to consIder leavIng the race. The mornIng after. The mornIng after. So If you are tryIng to say anythIng but Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs was commandIng In that debate, youre lyIng thIs mornIng. And you have to lIve wIth the fact that youre goIng to lose people. It doesnt work. People see what they see. And then they see lIes about It and so thIs wIll be very stark, an Important moment In terms of watchIng coverage and Im just sayIng you have to say It lIke It Is. We try our best to and we have seen It really bad debate on the democratIc sIde. We also saw a really good one. StIll ahead on Imarsana.com/news/mornIng-joe'>MornIng Joe, we wIll much more on last Imarsana.com/news/nIghts-debate'>NIghts Debate IncludIng the moment that Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump saId he dIdnt care about Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs race. Next week, Im goIng to decIde to be whIte. Im just lettIng you know. I would have no Idea Imarsana.com/news/jon-meacham'>Jon Meacham wIll joIn the conversatIon. We wIll be rIght back In 90 seconds. We wIll be rIght back In 90 seconds. I know. I love you. FInd chIldcare that fIts your schedule at care. Com rsv can severely affect the lungs and lower aIrways. But Im protected wIth arexvy. Arexvy Is a vaccIne used to prevent lower Imarsana.com/news/respIratory-dIsease'>RespIratory DIsease from rsv In people 60 years and older. Rsv can be serIous for those over 60, IncludIng those wIth asthma, dIabetes, copd and certaIn other condItIons. But Im protected. Arexvy Is proven to be over 82 effectIve In preventIng lower Imarsana.com/news/respIratory-dIsease'>RespIratory DIsease from rsv and over 94 effectIve In those wIth these health condItIons. arexvy does not protect everyone and Is not for those wIth severe allergIc reactIons to Its IngredIents. Those wIth weakened Imarsana.com/news/Immune-systems'>Immune Systems may have a lower response to the vaccIne. The most common Imarsana.com/news/sIde-effects'>SIde Effects are Imarsana.com/news/InjectIon-sIte'>InjectIon SIte paIn, fatIgue, muscle paIn, headache, and joInt paIn. Arexvy Is Imarsana.com/news/number-one'>Number One In Imarsana.com/news/rsv-vaccIne'>Rsv VaccIne shots. Rsv . Make It arexvy. Woman why dId we choose safelIte . We were loadIng our suv when. Crack safelIte came rIght to us, and we could see exactly when theyd arrIve wIth a replacement we could trust. Vo schedule free Imarsana.com/news/mobIle-servIce'>MobIle ServIce at safelIte. Com. SIngers safelIte repaIr, safelIte replace. My best debate ever, I thInk. And we had It was very InterestIng. It showed how weak and pathetIc they are and what they are doIng to destroy our country and the border wIth foreIgn trade and wIth everythIng and I thInk It was the best debate Ive ever personally that Ive had. Jake, I dIdnt thInk I was ever goIng to wItness a debate as devastatIng as Imarsana.com/news/the-one'>The One that you and dana moderated back In june where Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden basIcally tanked hIs reelectIon campaIgn. I thInk tonIght was just as devastatIng. I thInk that Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs pItched a shutout on almost every subject I can thInk of. She Imarsana.com/news/shut-trump'>Shut Trump down on abortIon. She Imarsana.com/news/shut-trump'>Shut Trump down on Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th and democracy. She shut hIm down on natIonal securIty and turned to the former presIdent and saId the mIlItary leaders that served wIth you thInk youre a dIsgrace and then as dana mentIoned, very powerfully at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End made the poInt she Is the candIdate of change and we need to turn the page from a decade of Imarsana.com/news/dIvIsIon-and-polarIzatIon'>DIvIsIon And PolarIzatIon. On substance, I thInk she pItched a shutout and I thInk she dId on style as well. The Image of the debate to me Is shes there happy, smIlIng, expressIve and shakIng her head and In dIsmay at Imarsana.com/news/what-trump'>What Trump was sayIng. Trump was lookIng angry and scowlIng and she was lookIng at the audIence and he was lookIng at the moderators and arguIng wIth hIm. Donald trump looked old tonIght. Yeah. Make no mIstake about It trump had a bad nIght. He rose to the debate repeatedly when she baIted hIm somethIng Im sure hIs advIsers had begged hIm not to do. The fIrst debate when bIden attacked hIm he kept hIs cool and kept goIng. In thIs debate he rose we heard so many of the old grIevances we thought trump had learned was not competItIvely. She came out lookIng pretty good. How long thIs wIll last Is anybodys guess but for tonIght at least, thIs Is pretty much her nIght. Gene robInson, the refs have called It. Yeah, rIght. K. O. People can be screamIng In the cheap seats and blamIng the moderator, blame the moderators for It whIch I thInk Interjected three facts to correct. EgregIous, horrIble, stupId lIes by Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. You could see even In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room, whIch Is probably hIs decIsIon to go to the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room, you could see how rattled he Is. Probably my best debate obvIously, nobody thInks that. He Is so used to beIng able to sort of create hIs own weather, create hIs own realIty. And It was Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs who dId that Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, startIng wIth the handshake and startIng wIth goIng Into hIs space and compellIng hIm to shake hands wIth her. I thInk he was off balance from that moment, to tell you the truth. I thInk he realIzed he was not In control of anythIng on that stage. RIght. He certaInly wasnt In control of hImself when she pushed hIs buttons. RIght. Its hard to ImagIne how It could have gone worse for hIm. I suppose he could have, lIke, passed out or somethIng. RIght. But It was just as bad as you could thInk. You know, jIm, the weIrdos and freaks and InsurrectIonIst freaks and tryIng to prop up thIs man are strugglIng. The fact the truth Is In the Imarsana.com/news/dIal-groups'>DIal Groups, as you saId, but also In the reactIon from trumps campaIgn. He dId everythIng that they have been beggIng hIm not to do. BrIt was talkIng about about It and repeatedly asked hIm to stay away from the Imarsana.com/news/hot-button-Issues'>Hot Button Issues and he went after the dogs, serIously. A completely unhInged performance. AgaIn, physIcallIly as Imarsana.com/news/brItt-human'>BrItt Human and Imarsana.com/news/chrIs-wallace'>ChrIs Wallace saId he was Imarsana.com/news/hunched-over'>Hunched Over and he looked over. He dId and voters pIck up on that and they understand very clearly that Is the versIon of Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump they dIdnt want. She dId two other thIngs Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght that I thInk wIth more crucIal. The fIrst Is she passed the Imarsana.com/news/commander-In-chIef'>Commander In ChIef test. She had to pass that test. After Imarsana.com/news/barack-obama'>Barack Obama had hIs fIrst debate wIth Imarsana.com/news/john-mccaIn'>John MccaIn people saw hIm as presIdent and the race was over after that. She was able to frame thIs race In future versus the past and where voters want to go. When I was runnIng wIth obama, Imarsana.com/news/bIll-clInton'>BIll ClInton called me up and saId all electIons are In the future and he played Into that. He played Into the Imarsana.com/news/past-and-anger'>Past And Anger and contInue to lItIgate the 2020 electIon. Voters hate that. That Is not about them but about hIm. He contInued to double down It over and over and doIng hImself damage that even he couldnt get out. You know youre In trouble on the campaIgn when you have to put the candIdate In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room just beIng hImself. That Is a panIc moment. You know Its bad then. WIllIe . Ill say on the blamIng of the refs that Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw begInnIng really 30 mInutes In on Imarsana.com/news/socIal-medIa'>SocIal MedIa when you have allIes of Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-trump'>PresIdent Trump sayIng thIs Is threeonone, the moderators are on the sIde of Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs. There were a handful of gentle Imarsana.com/news/fact-check'>Fact Checks, IncludIng thIs. Ask yourself If thIs Is partIsan after Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump suggested he got the state wrong. He saId the governor of Imarsana.com/news/west-vIrgInIa'>West VIrgInIa and he was talkIng about Imarsana.com/news/ralph-north'>Ralph North and the governor of vIrgInIa then and executIng babIes after Its born. They saId there Is no state where Its legal to kIll a baby after Its born. One of the Imarsana.com/news/grIevance-brItt-hue'>GrIevance BrItt Hue referenced was the 2020 electIon. Here Is hIs answer followed by the response from Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs. In the past couple of weeks leadIng up to thIs debate, you have saId, quote, you lost by a whIsker, that you, quote, dIdnt quIte make It, that you came up a lIttle bIt short. I saId that . Are you you now acknowledgIng you lost In 2020 . I dont act that at all. I say that sarcastIcally. We lost by a whIsker. That was saId sarcastIcally. So much proof. They should have sent It back to the legIslatures for approval. I got Imarsana.com/news/75-mIllIon'>75 MIllIon votes and the most votes any sIttIng presIdent had gotten. I told If I got 63 whIch I got In 2016 you wIll never be beaten. We need walls. We have to have It. We have to have borders. And we have to have good electIons. Donald trump was fIred by Imarsana.com/news/81-mIllIon'>81 MIllIon people. So lets be clear about that. And clearly he Is havIng a very dIffIcult tIme processIng that. But we cannot afford to have a Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States who attempts, as he dId In the past, to upend the wIll of the voters In a free and faIr electIon. So, john, It was just dry humor when Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump saId several tImes he lost the electIon. So fascInatIng. He contInues to say for years I won Imarsana.com/news/75-mIllIon'>75 MIllIon votes, how could I have lost that electIon . As Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent kamal poInted out the other person In the race got Imarsana.com/news/81-mIllIon'>81 MIllIon votes Is how he lost the race. He does InsIst goIng down thIs Imarsana.com/news/well-and-dIggIng'>Well And DIggIng In to a subject that people closest to hIm really do wIsh he would stop talkIng about. LookIng back four years whIle Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs Is tryIng to look forward and she made that pretty clear Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. She needled hIm wIth the fIre he dIdnt lIke there gettIng under hIs skIn. FIrst on the Issue, stIll pushIng the Imarsana.com/news/bIg-lIe'>BIg LIe and pushIng the Idea he won the 2020 electIon. Its not just the trump advIsers want hIm to stop talkIng about about that and poll suggests that too and turns off the thIn slIce of Independent Imarsana.com/news/swIng-voters'>SwIng Voters he needs to wIn and dont want to hear that. Another moment where that harrIs was able to make herself the Imarsana.com/news/change-candIdate'>Change CandIdate. The Insurgent candIdate and Imarsana.com/news/what-trump'>What Trump has been to thIs poInt. We talked about about thIs electIon a referendum on Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden would perhaps be problems for the democrats and democrats wanted It a choIce electIon. HarrIs made It a referendum about Imarsana.com/news/trumps-record'>Trumps Record whIch Is pretty remarkable for someone who Is the sIttIng Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent who serves the Incumbent presIdent. Yes, In trumps Imarsana.com/news/closIng-argument'>ClosIng Argument he made I thInk hIs best lIne of the nIght where he saId to harrIs Im paraphrasIng. You say you have to make thIngs better why havent done that. The matter felt very settled then and democrats were takIng theIr Imarsana.com/news/vIctory-lap'>VIctory Lap and a lot of amerIcans probably turnIng the channel at that poInt. But he wasnt able to do that throughout the debate prIor to that and, Instead, joe, It was harrIs who was able to sort of grab the mantle of the Imarsana.com/news/change-candIdate'>Change CandIdate sayIng Its trump who represents tIred, old playbook, old Ideas, old persImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And that Is where we want to go and she repeatedly used the phrase she uses all the tIme on the campaIgn traIl, we are not goIng back. She worked that In to several answers Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. Well, I just want to followup on Imarsana.com/news/what-jIm'>What JIm was sayIng In quotIng Imarsana.com/news/bIll-clInton'>BIll ClInton wIll electIons beIng about the future. FIrst tIme I ran, I started 29 years old. No experIence. No bIo. I was a lawyer. No Imarsana.com/news/reason-anybody'>Reason Anybody should have ever voted for me and I knocked on 10,000 doors and I found out ImmedIately they dId not care that I was runnIng agaInst the 16year Incumbent. They dId not care about, you know, that when he started In congress I was playIng tball. They wanted to know what the future was goIng to look lIke to them. Nobody ever stopped them and saId youre only 29 and youre only 30 and youre only 31 . They cared about the future and Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump Is always been about the past. Always been about grIevance. Always been about 2020. There Is no electIons are won there, gene, none. Well, the other thIng Is Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump has always been about hImself. And I thought well, exactly. I thought Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs dId an effectIve job several tImes durIng the evenIng sayIng to the camera, amerIcans, thIs Is about you. ThIs Is not and Im workIng for you as opposed to a candIdate who thInks only of hImself. Yeah. RIght. I thought, you know, she clearly was a poInt she wanted to hammer home. I thInk It was three or four tImes. There were several poIgnant moments I thought where when she talked about herself and trIed to share who she Is wIth the amerIcan people and she had worked as a former prosecutor and worked In the legal fIeld, attorney general. She saId I worked for the people. And whenever I represented someone, I dIdnt care whether they were democrat or republIcan. My questIon to them, are you okay . I thought that was powerful standIng next to a man who could gIve a flyIng hoot about anybody but hImself. Another word I would use. MIddle class, she was raIsed In the Imarsana.com/news/mIddle-class'>MIddle Class. I can tell you It makes a dIfference. You never forget when youre raIsed In the Imarsana.com/news/mIddle-class'>MIddle Class. You never forget when your dad would worked hIs ass off hIs entIre lIfe gets laId off when he Is 40 and never forget about drIvIng around the south two years and he Is lookIng for a job wIth hIs kId In the back seat. You never forget a chrIstmas where your older sIster Is cryIng because there are no chrIstmas presents. That stays wIth you. Kamala harrIs never forgets beIng raIsed by a sIngle mom. She never forgets workIng at mcdonalds. She never forgets havIng to fIght and scrap because there was no daddy to gIve her Imarsana.com/news/200-mIllIon'>200 MIllIon or 400 mIllIon. You never forget that. And there a lot of polItIcIans that forget It Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. Make no mIstake she connected on that poInt and Im glad she brought It up Im from the Imarsana.com/news/mIddle-class'>MIddle Class. Ive been through thIs. Doesnt matter how many posItIons Ive held. I know where I started. I know where I came from and I know where he came from and Its not where you came from, scranton, ohIo I mean, scranton, pennsylvanIa, or youngstown, ohIo. She Is one of them and a voter lIke them that connectIon when she needled trump about how much money hIs dad gave hIm. You could see he understood that moment. And she contInued to go back to It. The dIscIplIne she had Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght for 90 mInutes to contInue to stIck to her message, katty was talkIng about thIs earlIer. Is so Important. Trump Is the best counterpuncher we have seen. She dIdnt care. She went back to her message and IdentIfIed wIth the amerIcan people over and over and made her case and saId I can the Imarsana.com/news/commander-In-chIef'>Commander In ChIef. He couldnt look at her. No. She was prepped and she was dIscIplIned and she was clear and she was coherent. That translates Into governIng and you thInk people are sayIng whIch of the people on thIs stage Is better equIpped to then run the country . I would thInk those are qualItIes that would reassure people she has the abIlIty to do that. She may have spoken for a few less moments and women do that In those sItuatIons. She spoke for 37 mInutes. She dIdnt need to because a lot of what he saId was ramblIng. He was actually hard to lIsten to. I had an InterestIng Imarsana.com/news/conversatIon-yesterday'>ConversatIon Yesterday wIth a woman who came over who Is a pollster and helped the Imarsana.com/news/workIng-class-voters'>WorkIng Class Voters In the north and comIng over to do a sImIlar thIng for the Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-campaIgn'>HarrIs CampaIgn. She saId two thIngs people focus on they want theIr Imarsana.com/news/mIddle-class'>MIddle Class Imarsana.com/news/lIfe-back'>LIfe Back, a lIfe they felt they lost and she talked about that repeatedly and they dont want to go back to chaos and feel they have gone through a perIod wIth Imarsana.com/news/covId-and-world'>CovId And World economIc InsecurIty and wars and Its beIng chaotIc. Last nIght he by soundIng ramblIng, he kInd of projects chaos. RIght. And I thInk that the moderators by brIngIng In Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th, brIngIng In the 2020 electIon, It Is a remInder of those thIngs. I thInk she dId Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght at least what was tryIng to do In those Imarsana.com/news/workIng-class'>WorkIng Class on that, we want our Imarsana.com/news/mIddle-class'>MIddle Class Imarsana.com/news/lIfe-back'>LIfe Back by Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs talkIng repeated by about helpIng small Imarsana.com/news/busIness-owner'>BusIness Owners, helpIng startups and entrepreneurs and fIrsttIme Imarsana.com/news/home-buyers'>Home Buyers. You want to know the youth vote, why there are a lot of younger amerIcans who may be lIberal or Imarsana.com/news/progressIve-on-socIal-Issues'>ProgressIve On SocIal Issues but scared to death economIcally . They are In theIr 30s, 40s, whatever. I say anybody under 60 Is young. They cant afford theIr fIrst house. Its InsanIty how much thIngs have changed over the past generatIon. That Is what she kept speakIng to Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. John heIlemann, Ill let you pIck up on all of thIs. I do want to cIrcle back, though, to the InsanIty of trumpers on Imarsana.com/news/socIal-medIa'>SocIal MedIa goIng, abc, Imarsana.com/news/I-cant'>I Cant belIeve how horrIble fIrst of all he Is so weak and old and fraIl that he Is worrIed about those two moderators . Hes got bIgger problems, fIrst of all. Secondly, the thIngs they corrected hIm on were so basIc. LIes about Imarsana.com/news/crIme-droppIng'>CrIme DroppIng across the rest of the world. Really . And then lIes about crIme skyrocketIng here when just the opposIte Is true. Thats a lIe. That babIes can be executed after they are born . Democrats want to execute babIes . Its just a complete total lIe. You go down the lIst of these gentle brIef correctIons. Dogs beIng eaten In sprIngfIeld, ohIo . ThIs Is sort of a nobraIner. Yeah. I mean, three tImes that the moderators decIded to really Imarsana.com/news/fact-check'>Fact Check gently and Imarsana.com/news/fact-check-trump'>Fact Check Trump three and you just named them, joe. On thIngs If they hadnt Imarsana.com/news/fact-check'>Fact Checked hIm, mIka and others would say they were sane watchIng trump. The Imarsana.com/news/crIme-rate'>CrIme Rate Is not up. Its down. There Is no there are no, accordIng to the Imarsana.com/news/cIty-manager'>CIty Manager In sprIngfIeld, there are no credIble claIms of dogs, cats, or other pets beIng eaten by ImmIgrants. That Is really goIng to get your knIckers In a twIst you got a problem. The analyst Imarsana.com/news/on-cnn'>On Cnn Is stIll a serve conservatIve and protrump saId Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght Its a lIttle rIch for our sIde to be complaInIng about the refs when our Imarsana.com/news/team-cant'>Team Cant make a shot. And that, I thInk, Is what It comes down to here Is that Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump squandered every opportunIty. The thIngs he wanted to try to get done Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, he faIled. SystematIcally over and over agaIn. I saId before I agree wIth jIm about the Importance of thIs moment for harrIs. And for the what happens next In thIs race. We have eIght weeks left In thIs race. We have had a trajectory sInce harrIs came Into the race and she had flattened In the week before the debate after soared fIve or sIx weeks. She that not been tankIng but thIngs levelIng out and you expect that to happen, rIght . What happens the next eIght weeks . Three bIg thIngs can happen. HarrIs would screw up In a monumental way of thIs debate and, obvIously, she dId not and In fact, establIshed herself as the commandIng presence of thIs debate. There Is the possIbIlIty of external events and Imarsana.com/news/foreIgn-polIcy'>ForeIgn PolIcy crIses and dIsInformatIon, cyberwar, economIc calamItIes Imarsana.com/news/around-the-world'>Around The World and she Is stIll the sIttIng Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent. Joe bIden Is stIll the presIdent. They would have to deal wIth that In a dIfferent way Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump Is a outsIder and not holdIng any offIce and out of Imarsana.com/news/anybodys-control'>Anybodys Control but a real thIng. The thIrd thIng could change thIs rage In Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps favor Is what everybody has been prayIng for the last sIx weeks as republIcan. They are prayIng agaInst hope and all evIdence that Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump could fInd hIs way back to some form of candIdate dIscIplIne, focus, rIgor, and consIstency lIke he dId for the two weeks at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of 2016. He got them to do those thIngs a brIef and crucIal moment and they saId trump wIll fInd Is way back. If you thInk Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump has the mental and psychIc and mental capacIty to be a dIscIplIned rIgorous and consIstent candIdate drIvIng a message over these next eIght weeks, youre out of your mInd If you watched that debate and come to that conclusIon. The answer about the dogs and cats, do you know what the questIon was . The questIon was asked hIm about ImmIgratIon. Instead of talkIng about ImmIgratIon, he talked about Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIzes and then he went to Imarsana.com/news/world-war'>World War 3 and then he went back to Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIzes and that lIe about sprIngfIeld. That Is someone who has lost hIs marbles and not the kInd of candIdate that wIll run the campaIgn to beat harrIs. I wIll say, also, you know, people have been sayIng before thIs debate that Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump would not be able to handle the presence of a black woman on thIs stage challengIng hIm, that he was just that he was too racIst. I was lIke, we wIll see. We wIll see. Last nIght, Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw. When he was up agaInst an older whIte man, he held hIs fIre and he was dIscIplIned. It was lIke he was a 5yearold. He could not take Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs, a black woman, sayIng the truth about hIs crowds, that people get bored and they walk out and they leave. And that he says weIrd thIngs at them. So I do want to say, followIng up on what he saId. He quoted a republIcan Imarsana.com/news/on-cnn'>On Cnn and Its a perfect quote for all of these whIners. You know . And It kInd of remInds me of the Imarsana.com/news/alabama-game'>Alabama Game last week. Head a horrIble game and took us a long tIme. One guy from alabama would make a tackle and celebrate. SIt down when you play good football, you can celebrate one good tackle, rIght . Dont blame the refs and dont do anythIng. The republIcan Imarsana.com/news/on-cnn'>On Cnn Is a poInt Its rIch for republIcans to blame the refs when they cant make a sIngle shot. AgaIn, Imarsana.com/news/the-mornIng-after'>The MornIng After the bIden debate, what dId we say . TerrIble. We kept sayIng he mIssed one layup after another layup after another layup and that Is what happened Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. To make It worse for Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. He much more tIme about Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs to make layups. He had fIve precIous more mInutes to speak than her. What were the exact numbers . He had 42 mInutes and Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs had 37. Abc announcers were that unfaIr to Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs . They corrected hIm three tImes and very polItely and quIckly. I dont get the whole Imarsana.com/news/mIke-thIng'>MIke ThIng off. Every tIme trump wanted to talk, they turned up hIs mIke. They wouldnt cut hIm off. There were no rules. He just started yellIng. Im goIng to turn the mIkes off that Is a really good poInt. He got everythIng he wanted and he stIll, whatever the bed, do you know what I mean . John heIlemann and Imarsana.com/news/jIm-messIna'>JIm MessIna, euImarsana.com/news/gene-robInson'>Gene RobInson, thank you. We have be joIned by Imarsana.com/news/davId-plouffe'>DavId Plouffe Imarsana.com/news/comIng-up'>ComIng Up. D by Imarsana.com/news/davId-plouffe'>DavId Plouffe Imarsana.com/news/comIng-up'>ComIng Up. And Its customIzable scans wIth socIal sentIment help you fInd and unlock opportunItIes In the market. E trade from Imarsana.com/news/morgan-stanley'>Morgan Stanley ryan t. WrItes, movIng Is stressful. Help you fInd and unlock opportunItIes In the market. Can you help me take one thIng off of my to do lIst . ugh, movIngs the worst. WIth xfInIty, you can transfer your Internet In just a few taps. Just a few easy moves. DId somebody say easy moves . Oh no. No, I was talkIng about movIng your Internet. ThIs wIll move the Internet. Ooh, ooh. Lets keep It professIonal. ProfessIonal dancers ok stay connected durIng your move wIth the best In home wIfI. EasIly transfer your servIces In the xfInIty app. BrIng on the good stuff. These are the kInds of elements of a natIonal health Insurance Important to the amerIcan people. Governor reagan Is agaInst such a probably. Governor . There you go agaIn. When I hear your new Ideas, Im remInded of that ad, where Is the beef . Yeah. Senator, I serve a jack kennedy. I knew jack kennedy. Jack kennedy was a frIend of mIne. Senator, youre no jack kennedy. In sprIngfIeld, they are eatIng the dogs the people that came In, they are eatIng the cats wow wow. Wow, wow. He saId It lIke he meant It. They are eatIng the dogs no. DId he really mean that . He thInks that Is true because he watches It on Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News . They are eatIng the dogs try explaInIng thIs Imarsana.com/news/around-the-world'>Around The World. You cant explaIn It around the Imarsana.com/news/world-or-amerIca'>World Or AmerIca unless people In a drIven cult or drIven party. I saw It on tv, he saId. You have the Imarsana.com/news/dIal-groups'>DIal Groups. They cant deny the fact that Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump lost massIvely Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and they are just what are they goIng to do . They wIll be doublIng down on theIr Imarsana.com/news/lIes-today'>LIes Today and tomorrow and next week and hurt them In Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End. People saw what they saw Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. He Is on another network rIght now. The former presIdent Is goIng after the moderators so that appears to be the strategIes that It was the Imarsana.com/news/moderators-fault'>Moderators Fault Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. He Is runnIng an Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-aIrtIght'>CampaIgn AIrtIght he needs to broaden the coalItIon of voters he brIngs to the table because he lost last tIme by Imarsana.com/news/6-mIllIon'>6 MIllIon votes. I would ask who Is that for what Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw rIght there . If you are, agaIn, a normal person whIch most amerIcans are lIvIng were In theIr lIves and dont lIve In the dark end of the Internet. Who eats dogs In sprIngfIeld, ohIo . What are you talkIng about . And not to mentIon It was a complete lIe and the person who took the photograph saId It wasnt In sprIngfIeld. I dIdnt know who that guy was. I dont know If he was ImmIgrant or where he was from. I thought It was weIrd a guy Is walkIng down the street wIth a goose. Who Is he talkIng to . You know what you just saId . You saId that. The mornIng after a Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial debate and, agaIn, there Is a Imarsana.com/news/guy-walkIng-down-the-street'>Guy WalkIng Down The Street wIth a goose I dont know why he was walkIng down that Is where Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump has taken the republIcan party. Thats where Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump has taken an entIre Imarsana.com/news/cable-news'>Cable News networks and that Is where Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump has taken hIs onlIne communIty of supporters. They have to support that madness. Yeah. Its he dId nothIng among many other thIngs he dId poorly Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, he dId Imarsana.com/news/absolutely-'>Absolutely nothIng to attract new voters and not because of the rIdIculous answer about dogs and cats In sprIngfIeld, ohIo but because of hIs answers on abortIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And whether he would not the 2020 electIon. He claIms he belIeves stIll he dId. On abdIcatIng hImself of any responsIbIlIty for what happened on Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th and showIng affInIty for people who went to the capItol and desecrated and beat up cops and sayIng he wIll not vote for ukraIne to wIn and he Is decIdIng wIth vladImIr Imarsana.com/news/putIn-sIde'>PutIn SIde and I can go Imarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And Imarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And on. The poInt of the exercIse here Is to try to wIn a general electIon. He dId nothIng to add new voters Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. When youre braggIng that Imarsana.com/news/vIctor-orbon'>VIctor Orbon Is your bud and only one you can name, that Is a problem. Jonathan lemIre and Imarsana.com/news/katty-kay'>Katty Kay Is stIll wIth us and joInIng the conversatIon we have Imarsana.com/news/msnbc-contrIbutor'>Msnbc ContrIbutor Imarsana.com/news/mIke-barnIcle'>MIke BarnIcle and Imarsana.com/news/nbc-news'>Nbc News and nbc polItIcal analyst former senator of mIssourI claIre mccaskIll. Also wIth us Is Imarsana.com/news/al-sharpton'>Al Sharpton. And Imarsana.com/news/jon-meacham'>Jon Meacham Is wIth us and Imarsana.com/news/jonathan-marks'>Jonathan Marks of ppolItIco. Jonathan, your takeaways from Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. Donald trump was talkIng about thIngs, as wIllIe saId, that most amerIcans dont grasp. I can report at least here In phIladelphIa that the dogs here are safe on the streets of phIladelphIa. Its not just the dogs, though. How many amerIcans know who Imarsana.com/news/vIctory-orbon'>VIctory Orbon Is . Youre tryIng to wIn over folks In erIe, p. A. And other places and youre talkIng about the hungarIan presIdent . I found that puzzlIng. Kamala harrIs was somebody who was always good off a scrIpt but she Is also good at Imarsana.com/news/somethIng-else'>SomethIng Else whIch Is the preparatIons that a prosecutor makes before a case. We saw that as senator when they grIlled the admInIstrators on the hIll. We saw that fIgure Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. A fIgure who does extensIve prep. She had two Imarsana.com/news/dozen-onelIner'>Dozen OnelIner answers got almost all of them out and Is a consultants dream. You can see her goIng through the bInder In her Imarsana.com/news/mInd-and-flIppIng'>MInd And FlIppIng through the tabs and gettIng off lIne after lIne. ObvIously, she won the debate. The Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-campaIgn'>HarrIs CampaIgn wants a second debate and I thInk the trump wIll succumb and do It but he has to do somethIng next tIme whIch he dIdnt do Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght whIch Is prepare and not take the baIt. He doesnt do It. He does not prepare. He cant prepare. Staffers In the Imarsana.com/news/whIte-house'>WhIte House saId they couldnt hand hIm onepage summarIes because he doesnt read them. Somebody who reads Is jon peopleage, the hIstorIan. There Is no parallel, I suppose, to a debate where you had one candIdate as Illprepared as Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump talkIng about dog eaters, Imarsana.com/news/vIctor-orbon'>VIctor Orbon and phantom crIme statIstIcs. How do you get your arms around thIs . And what do you say to your frIends In the Imarsana.com/news/mens-grIll'>Mens GrIll who wIll try to sane wash thIs today . Its the peter mIllar problem. The Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent , I thInk, for three and a half years was oddly and unfaIrly malalIgned In the fIrst three years of her beIng In offIce as Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent. Then for the last month or so, I wondered whether she was dIsproportIonately praIsed wIth a lack of data. That problem Is gone. She delIvered a brIllIant Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial performance Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and thInk passed all of the InvIsIble tests about someone whom we could trust wIth the nuclear codes. I would put It and to my republIcan frIends. Do you want to gIve the nuclear codes back to the Imarsana.com/news/dog-eatIng'>Dog EatIng guy . There Is a sentence that I dont thInk Imarsana.com/news/dean-atchIson'>Dean AtchIson ever uttered. I thInk In that zone we are Is a very clear choIce. I wIll say, I thInk thIs Is Important In what Is goIng to be I dont want as to say euphorIc day about those who belIeve In the constItutIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And saw In trump and the former presIdent Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght an example of a Imarsana.com/news/vIvId-manIfestatIon'>VIvId ManIfestatIon why we dont want that. Remember. VIce presIdent harrIs has now passed her test. We are now on trIal. Its the amerIcan people now. Nobody has hIt the ball. Nobody Its all here. There was a woman on that stage Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght who could Imarsana.com/news/absolutely-'>Absolutely be the Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States and there was a man who should not be. And so what are get goIng to do . DonnIe, we have talked for a long tIme on thIs show about people gradIng trump on a curve and gIvIng them a pass. That Is trump beIng trump you cant belIeve everythIng he says but he wants to be Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States agaIn. We wIll not grade on a curve here and we dont grade on a curve. ObjectIvely based on what you saw not only from hIs performance but from hers, what Is your take from Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght . Trump basIcally told us that what the world Is goIng to look lIke Is ImmIgrants are goIng to eat your pets and execute babIes after nIne months and there wIll be no IsraelI and when asked about what he would do about the war In gaza, hIs answer was she hates IsraelI. They wIll wIll be no IsraelI. That was hIs solutIon. That Is what he had to say. Whereas, Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs gave a very ImpassIoned and support of IsraelI. Talked In great deal about the horrors wIth terrorIsm of hamas and Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps answer was there wIll be no Israel. Its Imarsana.com/news/fear-mongerIng'>Fear MongerIng and nothIng more than that. I watched as an amerIcan and as an amerIcan I was repulsed that he would not say the electIon was lost. He would not must down Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. I watched as a father. He would not say that he beat an Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban. I watched as a jew and I was hIghly dIsappoInted and a reason threequarters of jews are votIng for Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs. Reverend . When I ran In 2004, It was two thIngs you do. One, you run to wIn whIch I knew I was unlIkely goIng to wIn. Are you runnIng to push a vIsIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And a way you want the country to go . Donald trump dId neIther Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. He was tryIng to, In many ways, justIfy hIs past, trIed to say that 2020, he really won. StIll dealIng wIth those grIevances. He gave no vIsIon. Kamala harrIs not only won Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, I thInk she won the hearts of a lot of amerIcans who maybe dIdnt understand what her vIsIon was. She was clear on her vIsIon. She would answer some of hIs statements and go rIght back to but thIs Is where we need to go as a country. And then for Imarsana.com/news/hIm-toer'>HIm Toer as donnIe saId and I agree, but also race baIt. He dIdnt just say people are Imarsana.com/news/eatIng-dogs'>EatIng Dogs. He saId haItIan ImmIgrants are Imarsana.com/news/eatIng-dogs'>EatIng Dogs. Anybody black In that town looks lIke a haItIan. He defended what he dId to the Imarsana.com/news/central-park-fIve'>Central Park FIve and I respect Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs for raIsIng that, because he saId that these people, these fIve young teenagers, Imarsana.com/news/young-boys'>Young Boys should have had the Imarsana.com/news/death-penalty'>Death Penalty, when what happened to that whIte woman In central park was despeckable and horrIfIc. The Imarsana.com/news/death-wouldnt'>Death Wouldnt cover the crIme. He went Into Imarsana.com/news/race-baItIng'>Race BaItIng and went to It Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and went to our worst fears. If youre lookIng at thIs debate Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and youre lookIng at your chIldren, because It Is about the future and your grandchIldren, who do you thInk has the temperament and the InformatIon to lead us durIng thIs tIme perIod where we are In such turmoIl from ukraIne to the Imarsana.com/news/mIddle-east'>MIddle East and you would not go wIth a guy who Is Imarsana.com/news/race-baItIng'>Race BaItIng and feel mongerIng. You go wIth a stable woman who could say, yes, thIs Is where we are and we have to address It. ThIs Is where we need to go. That Is why I thInk she won. She won she walked out and made hIm shake hands wIth her and he had the nIghtmare of hIs lIfe that he had to shake hands wIth a black woman as an equal and he couldnt get It back together after that. We are goIng to play that clIp of the Imarsana.com/news/central-park-fIve'>Central Park FIve In a moment, joe. BrIan celter reportIng lIve on fox. Trump Insults not only the abc anchors but he Insults the two fox anchors who have pItched hIs Imarsana.com/news/debate-moderators'>Debate Moderators and martha saId he would not have them. He wants sean Imarsana.com/news/hannIty-and-jesse'>HannIty And Jesse waters or laura Ingram. Back to you, wIllIe no surprIse, no surprIse there. MIke, as rev says a Imarsana.com/news/splIt-screen'>SplIt Screen Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. Donald trumps performance allowed Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs to kInd of sIt there and look to the camera and then say, do you want thIs agaIn . Do you want to go back to thIs . Are you watchIng these 90 . We are not goIng back whIch has become Imarsana.com/news/mare-problem-refraIn'>Mare Problem RefraIn that we are not goIng back to thIs. A lIteral Imarsana.com/news/splIt-screen'>SplIt Screen. Never been on a stage and never met before. As we say voters who dont lIve In thIs world and not lIke us and look at every Imarsana.com/news/twIst-and-poll'>TwIst And Poll and tune In at bIg conventIons and debates and they settle In and begIn to form theIr opInIons and make decIsIons. As they settled In Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, what dId they say . Well, the vIsuals were stunnIng. The contrast between the two of them. One, more permanent scowl all evenIng long. The other, the Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent was a mIxture of smIlIng, almost all nIght long, but wonderment and lookIng across at the person next to her on the Imarsana.com/news/stage-and-wonderment'>Stage And Wonderment In her eyes and sometImes a feelIng of sympathy In her eyes as If sayIng what Is wrong wIth thIs guy . And what she was lookIng at, I would submIt, was an old man walkIng hImself In to our polItIcal past. An old man who at Imarsana.com/news/one-poInt'>One PoInt, surrenders the presIdency when he was asked a questIon about Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th and hIs reply was, I wasnt In charge of securIty then. ThIs was a former Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States sayIng he wasnt In charge of securIty then. Sorry. But you were. ThIs was an old man who spent a good part of the evenIng, once agaIn, denIgratIng and runnIng down the amerIcan dream, runnIng down the unIted states of amerIca. ThIs Is a thIrd world country. ThIs Is a country In declIne. I challenge Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump today, who wIll be down at the Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 ceremonIes In Imarsana.com/news/lower-manhattan'>Lower Manhattan, along wIth Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-bIden'>PresIdent BIden and Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs, to look around at what he sees and he wIll see a portraIt of Imarsana.com/news/resIlIence-and-remembrance'>ResIlIence And Remembrance by everybody down there rememberIng a day that shocked amerIca and scarred thIs country forever. ThIs Is not a country In declIne, donald. Take a look around. Yeah. Well, he Is too busy rantIng wIthout any control or boundarIes or guardraIls on Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News. By the way, attackIng Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News on Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News. He has expanded that. Kamala harrIs and Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden are gettIng ready to recognIze Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 as they should doIng theIr jobs. JoInIng us now Is Imarsana.com/news/senIor-advIser'>SenIor AdvIser to the Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-walz-campaIgn'>HarrIs Walz CampaIgn Is Imarsana.com/news/davId-plouffe'>DavId Plouffe and served as Imarsana.com/news/obamas-campaIgn-manager'>Obamas CampaIgn Manager and Imarsana.com/news/whIte-house'>WhIte House advIser. DavId, let me read a statement from you, one you, obvIously, lIfted straIght from the 2008 campaIgn agaInst Imarsana.com/news/john-mccaIn'>John MccaIn. EatIng dogs Is not a wInner but for undecIded voters. Actually, you never had to brIng that one up. We are talkIng about how unbalanced lets get to the facts and lets get to the actual data whIch I know you care about. What dId you see wIth undecIded voters In the Imarsana.com/news/dIal-groups'>DIal Groups . Well, I thInk, joe, what we are seeIng and I thInk there Is also publIc undecIded dIscussIons that happened, Is Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs really met the moment. The race Is very close. It was Imarsana.com/news/yesterday-and-today'>Yesterday And Today and tomorrow. A lot of voters wanted to know more about her, her plans, her bIography and I thInk wanted to know what Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps second term would be lIke. I thInk what they saw Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght was Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs was focused on the amerIcan people and plans to buIld more Imarsana.com/news/housIng-and-support'>HousIng And Support Imarsana.com/news/small-busIness'>Small BusInesses and a deranged lunatIc In Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump who I always focus on the next day. Kamala harrIs at the rally In phIladelphIa after he debate saId great nIght and lets move on tomorrow. What wIll lIve on . A lot of thIngs wIth Imarsana.com/news/eatIng-dogs'>EatIng Dogs. One, he promIsed Imarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care plan back In 2015, a long typIcally ago and never came. He stIll wants to basIcally throws tens of mIllIons of people off Imarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care. People In Imarsana.com/news/swIng-states'>SwIng States are goIng to hear about that very soon. ObvIously, the threat of a natIonal Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban. He dIdnt say he wouldnt sIgn that. He Is goIng to vote In florIda and cast a vote for a Imarsana.com/news/sIxweek-ban'>SIxweek Ban for many women to know they are pregnant. He dId not say ukraIne should not wIn the war. Remarkable moments. Yes, hIs InsanIty, hIs focus on hImself, the same old lIes and dIstractIons that we have come used to. But I thInk he also made huge mIstakes that people care about. So, agaIn, It was a great nIght for Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs. She delIvered, I thInk, hIstorIc Imarsana.com/news/debate-performance'>Debate Performance but we are In a tIed Imarsana.com/news/race-today'>Race Today and what the campaIgn Is focused on how to fIgure out to wIn enough votes In the states so she becomes owner next presIdent. Youve been through debates about Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-obama'>PresIdent Obama and good and less good debates. Probleg for us how thIs mIght Impact actual votIng In those states that you talked about but specIfIcally whIch Imarsana.com/news/votIng-groups'>VotIng Groups that you found It hard to reach In thIs campaIgn over the course of the last sIx weeks do you thInk mIght be persuaded by what they heard Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. Well, I thInk, fIrst of all, I was so Impressed by Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs because she knew exactly she represented the people Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. I thInk she talked about people beIng exhausted wIth hIs tIred old playbook and wantIng to turn the page and she knew what she wanted the amerIcan people and the case she want to prosecute agaInst Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. I thInk he Is a unIversally known fIgure and where the race stands. He has a pretty hIgh floor. Sad that Its that hIgh but that Is realIty. A lot of voters want to learn more about her. Her bIography and her plans for the future and her values and Is she up to the test of beIng Imarsana.com/news/commander-In-chIef'>Commander In ChIef . I thInk she passed that Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, no questIon, I thInk she answered that. Its voters of all ages, races, you know, Income so Its not that many but, you know, I always remInd people It may be four or sIx or 8 but those are the folks that decIde electIons and Its two sIdes of the coIn. One, there are people out there who are defInItely goIng to vote who arent sure who they are votIng for. I thInk a lot of people Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght were probably gIven a lot of confIdence that Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs would be the rIght choIce. A second group of voters who mIght say they are goIng to vote for Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs or Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump but not sure they are goIng to vote. ComIng out of Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, anybody who basIcally I would vote for harrIs but not sure Im goIng to vote Is excIted to do that. I thInk few weeks out there who mIght be Infrequent voters softly In Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps camp who are goIng to demoralIzed by that performance, that Is not an IncentIve to vote for someone lIke that and gIve hIm another four years. ClaIre mccaskIll, as we sat here 24 hours ago together prevIewIng the debate you had concerns about the expectatIons set hIgh for Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs and confIdent she would do well. We sIt here on Imarsana.com/news/the-mornIng-after'>The MornIng After, how dId It play out from where youre sIttIng . I dont thInk It could have gone much better. Lets, lIke, kIndofback up. The argument that trump has been makIng about Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs Is she Is dumb, shes too scrIpted, and she Is too weak to stand up to the thugs of the world. Well, she pretty much dIspatched all three of those Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght In an elegant classy prepared fashIon. Anybody who watched that Imarsana.com/news/debate-saw'>Debate Saw that she Is not dumb. She certaInly Is not weak. And the way she yanked hIm around that Imarsana.com/news/debate-stage'>Debate Stage and baIted hIm over and over agaIn and got hIm to respond to the baItIng that she was doIng, he Is tryIng to say she cant stand up to strong leaders . Well, she sure stood up to hIm. And I thInk Its goIng to be really dIffIcult now goIng forward for them to fInd a lIne of attack that has credIbIlIty because all they had, she demolIshed Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. And I wIll say to parents out there that have a young woman, a chIld or a nIece or even grandparents that have a granddaughter, If she says she wants to be presIdent , tell her to go be an Imarsana.com/news/assIstant-prosecutor'>AssIstant Prosecutor and spend some tIme In a courtroom because you can sure see It Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. I saw It over and over agaIn. So, davId, now that she has destroyed theIr lIne of attack that I just went through, the only thIng stIll out there Is that she Is not doIng enough IntervIews. You know, Its lame. But Its kInd of all they have got at thIs poInt. How are you guys feelIng about puttIng her out for more IntervIews In the next few weeks and, most Importantly, how are you feelIng about pushIng for another debate . Well, claIre, I thInk fIrst of all, lets talk about IntervIews. Lets talk about Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump today. Ive not watched hIm but the reports you gave Is on Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News complaInIng about the moderators. Talk about weak. PathetIc. Desperate. So lets, by the way, he had fIve more mInutes to speak than Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs, no small thIng. Secondly, he was Imarsana.com/news/fact-check'>Fact Checked on, wasnt there IntrIcacIes of theIr Imarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care plan It was amerIcans eatIng Imarsana.com/news/household-pets'>Household Pets and whether they have afterbIrth abortIon. ThIs Is someone not fIt to lead. And what we are seeIng thIs mornIng, I thInk Is what Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs dId a really good job of exposIng Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. He Is focused on grIevances. Its all about hImself. ClaIre, you know, Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs dId some radIo IntervIews last week. She wIll contInue to do IntervIews. PresIdentIal campaIgns Is IntervIews and goIng Into Imarsana.com/news/battleground-states'>Battleground States and campaIgnIng and she wIll be doIng that later thIs week. Voters wIll see her In many dIfferent forms we thInk Is helpful. A lot of voters want to know a lot more about her and they are eager to hear. I thInk voters dont want to hear more from Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump and partIcularly after Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. He saId he Is debatIng wIth Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News anchors and we wIll see how It plays out. SenIor advIser to the Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-walz-campaIgn'>HarrIs Walz CampaIgn, Imarsana.com/news/davId-plouffe'>DavId Plouffe, thank you for comIng on the show today. We apprecIate It. We want to turn now to Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11. Today marks 23 years sInce the Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 Imarsana.com/news/terror-attack'>Terror Attacks, If you can belIeve It. PresIdent bIden and Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs and former Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-trump'>PresIdent Trump wIll mark the day by attendIng a Imarsana.com/news/memorIal-ceremony'>MemorIal Ceremony thIs mornIng In new Imarsana.com/news/york-cIty'>York CIty. BIden, harrIs, and trump wIll also attend events In shanksvIlle, washIngton, later today. The presIdent and Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent wIll then end the day at a Imarsana.com/news/wreath-layIng-ceremony'>Wreath LayIng Ceremony at the pentagon. JoInIng us now Imarsana.com/news/homeland-securIty-secretary'>Homeland SecurIty Secretary Imarsana.com/news/alejandro-mayorkas'>Alejandro Mayorkas who wIll be joInIng Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-bIden'>PresIdent BIden and Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs In new Imarsana.com/news/york-cIty'>York CIty thIs mornIng. As we remember Its hard to ImagIne thIs was 23 years ago. For me, It was lIke yesterday and for many others. As we remember what happened on Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11, 23 years ago, what are the ways thIs country stIll needs to contInue to be vIgIlant and mIndful that our Imarsana.com/news/home-land'>Home Land needs to be protected . Good mornIng. The threats In thIs country persIst and foreIgn and domestIc threats but what has not changed Is the tIreless dedIcatIon of 260,000 IndIvIduals In the department of homeland securIty. ThIs Is a somber day when we honor the lIves lost on Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 and In the days, weeks, months, and years sInce. We In the Imarsana.com/news/department-honor'>Department Honor those lIves every day through the work that we do. The Imarsana.com/news/terrorIst-threat'>TerrorIst Threat requIres vIgIlance. Not only on our part, but on Imarsana.com/news/everyones-part'>Everyones Part to be alert and to respond when one sees somethIng of concern. It requIres a communIty of actIon. We are all one communIty. Secretary mayorkas, good mornIng. Your department, Imarsana.com/news/the-one'>The One you head now was created after the attacks of Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 to Increase that vIgIlance you were just talkIng about. I wonder for amerIcans who have not had the opportunIty to go where you are standIng rIght now I can hear the water behInd you and the footprInts of where those towers stood. What Its lIke. Ive been there many, many tImes to stand at that memory to consIder everythIng that happened there, to consIder everythIng that happened after that day and to go through the museum, the extraordInary museum down there. Can you just gIve people watchIng a sense of what Its lIke to stand there on thIs day . It Is an extraordInarIly solemn place. It Is also a very InspIrIng one. It Is solemn because we remember the horrIfIc tragedy that has changed the lIfe of our country and changed the lIves of so many people. It Is InspIrIng because our country stIll stands tall and stIll stands strong not only here but Imarsana.com/news/around-the-world'>Around The World. It speaks very powerfully of the resolve of our natIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And of our people. Homeland Imarsana.com/news/securIty-secretary-alejandro'>SecurIty Secretary Alejandro mayorkas, thank you so much. We goIng to be observIng the moments of sIlence later thIs mornIng commemoratIng extraordInarIly tragIc attack 23 years ago. MIka, Imarsana.com/news/Id-love'>Id Love to go down and get you and wIllIes thoughts, and mIkes thoughts on that day. So many years ago. Its hard to belIeve. It Is. I covered It for cbs and was down there for many weeks after watchIng the towers fall. I stIll have these terrIble tensIons of feelIngs about goIng home to my kIds weeks after coverIng It. And the thousands of people who dIdnt go home In those seconds when those towers fell and when those planes crashed Into the pentagImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And In shanksvIlle. And Its one of those markers In your lIfe. Before Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 and after Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11. Yeah. No doubt. WIllIe, It was very personal. So many of us that were outsIde the new Imarsana.com/news/york-cIty'>York CIty area, you know, we grIeved, we hung amerIcan flags. We came Imarsana.com/news/together-as-one'>Together As One. It was an extraordInary feelIng that I had never felt before. Just all amerIcans Imarsana.com/news/together-as-one'>Together As One, It certaInly teamed that way. For mIka, It was very personal beIng down there as the towers were fallIng and reportIng on It and beIng shoved away from the fallIng debrIs. For you, It was very personal as well and knowIng people In your hometown that went to work that mornIng but never returned. I grew up In a Imarsana.com/news/commuter-town'>Commuter Town In Imarsana.com/news/new-jersey'>New Jersey over the rIver. We had 12 people In our town dIe on Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11, IncludIng my next Imarsana.com/news/door-neIghbor'>Door NeIghbor Imarsana.com/news/gIna-steInberg'>GIna SteInberg and her daughter lorI was my frIend In kIndergarten and the lIst Is too long to name from our town. My beloved Imarsana.com/news/sIsterInlaw-alIce'>SIsterInlaw AlIce was In the buIldIng pregnant and ran down 70 flIghts of staIrs gettIng out of the buIldIng just before It collapsed. And you I also thInk, Imarsana.com/news/mIke-barnIcle'>MIke BarnIcle, about the fIrst responders who were so braved that day. 443 fIrefIghters dIed. Many more have dIed sInce from theIr nIne months on the pIle there from how sIck they got and more members from the fdny have dIed from cancers. I thInk about the Imarsana.com/news/men-and-women-from-afghanIstan'>Men And Women From AfghanIstan and some who dId not come home and some wIll bear the scars of theIr lIves. The rIpple of that day that contInues on thIs day. The rIpple of lIves lost and lIves that contInue and many of the lIves you just mentIoned. My wIfe was on a flIght to new york. She had a scheduled 9 00 a. M. MeetIng at the Imarsana.com/news/world-trade-center'>World Trade Center that mornIng. Her flIght was reverted back to boston In mId aIr. There was an IconIc photo taken of a Imarsana.com/news/ladder-truck'>Ladder Truck crossIng the Imarsana.com/news/brooklyn-brIdge'>Brooklyn BrIdge that mornIng headIng toward a burnIng buIldIng, Imarsana.com/news/world-tower'>World Tower one. The reason Its IconIc I thInk to many people, certaInly to me, Is that you can see the fIrefIghters holdIng on to the truck as It speeds across the brIdge wIth no traffIc In fronts of It. And an amerIcan flag rIppIng In the breeze behInd It. All of those fIrefIghters dIed that day, that mornIng In that buIldIng In those collapsed towers. The lIves lost wIll always be remembered. Today Is a day of Imarsana.com/news/memory-and-resIlIence'>Memory And ResIlIence as we IndIcated earlIer. But the lIves that are left, the lIves that you just mentIoned and the rIpple of theIr lIves, the meanIng of theIr lIves and what that day meant and meant to thIs country goIng forward, agaIn, thIs Is not a country In Imarsana.com/news/declIne-and-part'>DeclIne And Part of the reason Its not In declIne Is because of the prIde, the spIrIt, and the combatIveness of the amerIcan spIrIt. That photo I belIeve was on the front page of the new york Imarsana.com/news/daIly-news'>DaIly News a few days late and where I worked on Imarsana.com/news/september-11th'>September 11th. It feels lIke It was just yesterday. I thInk one thIng beyond the sacrIfIce, beyond the sadness, there was that feelIng for some weeks of natIonal unIty, rev, that we all together. We have become so dIvIded and so fractured sInce then, every often you see a glImpse of hope maybe we can be lIke that agaIn. I thInk that Is the story that we should have comIng out of the day Is the legacy of people dId come together. I remember when Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 happened and after the trauma, I was campaIgnIng for a candIdate when I found out about It. The ImmedIate trauma after that, a young man that went to church wIth my daughters stayed wIth us because hIs mother was In the buIldIng and dIed. For weeks every tIme the phone rang he was hopIng It was hIs mother callIng. He had to come to terms. He Is now a mInIster. He had to come to terms that hIs Imarsana.com/news/mother-wasnt'>Mother Wasnt comIng back. I saId, you know, now I understand terrorIsm. Now I understand because thIs was the fIrst tIme we experIenced that on the Imarsana.com/news/home-land'>Home Land. I called Imarsana.com/news/mort-zuckerman'>Mort Zuckerman on the Imarsana.com/news/daIly-news'>DaIly News. I saId I want to go to IsraelI. He arranged for perez to host me In Imarsana.com/news/IsraelI-and-perez'>IsraelI And Perez saId you should not only denounce terrorIsm, he saId you ought to meet wIth yasser arafat. He arranged for me to meet wIth arafat to denounce what Imarsana.com/news/osama-bIn-laden'>Osama BIn Laden had done. The poInt I make partIcularly after thIs debate Is those terrorIsts dIdnt send an emaIl to blacks to dont come to work at the Imarsana.com/news/world-trade-center'>World Trade Center and dIdnt tell latInos by text to stay away. They dIdnt care. They saw us all as amerIcans. And we dont always see Imarsana.com/news/each-other'>Each Other as amerIcans. They saw In us what we dIdnt see In themselves. That Is why Its Important for people lIke joe and I who may have dIsagreed to stand together on what we agree and grow together. Or even donnIe and I. Because that Is where we had to be the day after Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 and we should never forget that. I was choked up lIstenIng to you talk. On Imarsana.com/news/the-one'>The One hand, deep sorrow. But IncredIble prIde about who we are and the way we reacted and came together and Its over 20 years ago and Its a part of us and who we are. It showed the worst that can happen and It brought out the best of who we are and that Is what one guy who Is runnIng for presIdent doesnt understand the soul of thIs country and what we are about and we look forward and we belIeve In hope and we rIse From The Ashes and we buIld ourselves. He doesnt understand that and paInts a socIety that we are anythIng about. PresIdent bIden and Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs wIll be at Ground Zero a sort tIme from now. Former Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-trump'>PresIdent Trump and Imarsana.com/news/jd-vance'>Jd Vance wIll also be there. The towers fell to come and a moment of sIlence at the pentagImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And shanksvIlle, the flIght 93 goIng down on thIs day 23 years ago. We wIll be rIght back on Imarsana.com/news/mornIng-joe'>MornIng Joe. Years ago we wIll be rIght back on Imarsana.com/news/mornIng-joe'>MornIng Joe. On compared to regular turmerIc. Qunol. The brand I trust. Were tryIng to save the planet wIth nuggets. Because we need the planet. And we also need nuggets. ImpossIble. Were solvIng the Imarsana.com/news/meat-problem'>Meat Problem wIth more meat. Why choose a mobIle network buIlt for places youll probably never be. Instead of for where you are most of the tIme . XfInIty mobIle was desIgned for where you need It most. Now Imarsana.com/news/xfInIty-Internet'>XfInIty Internet customers can buy one lIne of unlImIted and get one free for a year. Dont kId yourself, davId. We are playIng wIth Imarsana.com/news/world-war'>World War III and we have a presIdent we dont know If he where Is our presIdent . We dont know If he Is a presIdent. Just to clarIfy. They threw hIm out of a campaIgn lIke a dog. We dont know. Is he our presIdent . But we have a presIdent mr. PresIdent. That doesnt know he Is blIf. AlIve. Youre tIme up. Do you belIeve Its In the u. S. Best Interest for crane to wIn thIs war . Yes or no. I thInk Its best for the u. S. To get thIs war fInIshed and get It done and negotIate a deal because we have to stop all of these human lIves from beIng destroyed. I want to thIs to Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs. I want to get your thoughts on support for ukraIne In thIs moment but also as Imarsana.com/news/commander-In-chIef'>Commander In ChIef, If elected, how would you deal wIth Imarsana.com/news/vladImIr-putIn'>VladImIr PutIn and would It be any dIfferent from what we are seeIng from Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-bIden'>PresIdent BIden . Well, fIrst of all, Its Important to remInd the former presIdent youre not runnIng agaInst bIden. Youre runnIng agaInst me. You know, wIllIe he never answered. Another great example of questIons asked. He sort of wanders. He talks about no, thIs Is hIm wanderIng out In the pasture and walkIng around In cIrcles and brIngIng up all of these bIzarre facts, lIes. You know . Just random statements. Incomplete sentences. Joe bIden doesnt know he Is alIve . AgaIn, people not tunIng In regularly to see hIs declIne over the past several years. Had It to be shock Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. Yeah. Also people who have been for the last couple of years followIng the war In ukraIne sayIng, does he not want ukraIne to wIn when thIs dIctator In russIa Invaded IllegallycIvIlIa . He doesnt wanted ukraInIans to wIn what most people vIew as a battle of good and evIl. The reason he says he can end thIs when he comes In to offIce Is because hell just gIve Imarsana.com/news/vladImIr-putIn'>VladImIr PutIn what he wants. That Is hIs Imarsana.com/news/guy-and-hell'>Guy And Hell settle and gIve putIn the better end of that deal. Rev, we talked about race Imarsana.com/news/comIng-up'>ComIng Up In thIs race. Donald trump made comment about that happened In july when Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs turned to, quote, happened to turn black. The former presIdent was asked why he thInk Its okay to weIgh In on hIs opponents racIal IdentIty. I dont. I dont care. I dont care what she Is. I dont care. You make a bIg deal out of somethIng. I couldnt care less. Whatever she wants to be Is okay wIth me. But those were your words so Im askIng I dont know. All I can say I read where she was not black. That she put out. And Ill say that. And then I read that she was black. And that Is okay. EIther one was okay wIth me. Thats up to her. Thats up to her. Honestly, I thInk Its a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be presIdent who has consIstently, over the course of hIs career, attempted to use race to dIvIde the amerIcan people. You know, I do belIeve that the vast majorIty of us know that we have so much more In common than what separates us and we dont want thIs kInd of approach that Is just constantly tryIng to dIvIde us and especIally by race and lets remember how Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump started. He was a land he owned land. He owned buIldIngs. And he was InvestIgated because he refused to rent property to black famIlIes. Lets remember, thIs Is the same IndIvIdual who took out a full Imarsana.com/news/page-ad'>Page Ad In the new york tImes callIng for the executIon of fIve young black and latIno boys who were Innocent, the Imarsana.com/news/central-park-fIve'>Central Park FIve. Took out a full Imarsana.com/news/page-ad'>Page Ad callIng for theIr executIon. ThIs Is the same IndIvIdual who spread bIrther lIes about the fIrst black Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States. And I thInk the amerIcan people want better than that, want better than thIs. ThIs Is the most dIvIsIve presIdency In the hIstory of our country. There has never been anythIng lIke It. They are destroyIng our country. And they come up wIth thIngs lIke what she just saId. GoIng back many, many years where a lot of people, IncludIng Imarsana.com/news/mayor-bloomberg'>Mayor Bloomberg agreed wIth me on the Imarsana.com/news/central-park-fIve'>Central Park FIve. They admItted and they pled guIlty. I saId, well, If they pled guIlty, they badly hurt a person kIlled a person ultImately and If they pled guIlty, then they pled well not guIlty. ThIs Is a person who has to stretch back 40, 50 years ago because there Is nothIng now. Rev, Imarsana.com/news/mayor-bloomberg'>Mayor Bloomberg Is sIttIng there goIng leave me out of thIs. I dIdnt call for the Imarsana.com/news/death-penalty'>Death Penalty for fIve people who were later exonerated. Its hard to follow some of what he Is sayIng there because he Is havIng a lIttle trouble puttIng sentences together. How dId Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs handle that moment . I thInk she handle the defendant handled It beautIfully because she laId out hIs Imarsana.com/news/track-record'>Track Record from housIng and dIscrImInatIon In the real estate that he and hIs father owned that were decIded by the department of justIce that they were engaged In and bIgoted and racIst ways In terms of the ways they rented theIr apartments. Then she went Into the Imarsana.com/news/central-park-fIve'>Central Park FIve. You must remember that these young men went to jaIl for somethIng they dId not do and they were exonerated by Imarsana.com/news/dna-evIdence'>Dna EvIdence years later after they had done tIme In jaIl. And he called on theIr Imarsana.com/news/death-penalty'>Death Penalty, when unlIke he saId, the lady dIdnt dIe. What happened was despIcable, horrIble but she dId not dIe. There was no Imarsana.com/news/death-penalty'>Death Penalty In new york when he bought the ad. Then he began, he InItIated hIs polItIcal lIfe to run for presIdent wIth bIrtherIsm and sayIng Imarsana.com/news/barack-obama'>Barack Obama Is not one of us and he Is not a real amerIcan and now she Is doIng to Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs where she turned black a whIle ago. Race has always been at the center of how he played polItIcs because that Is who he Is. And I thInk for her to poInt that out and then come back as to how we need to unIte. The cIvIl Imarsana.com/news/rIghts-movement'>RIghts Movement was not about black agaInst whIte. It was about beIng equal so that we can all reconcIle and buIld a country. And she kInd of brought all of those strands together Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and I thInk that that was the rIght tone that she set, a tone that he Is Imarsana.com/news/tone-deaf'>Tone Deaf to. DonnIe, democrats, Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-campaIgn'>HarrIs CampaIgn feel lIke she dId well Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. She dId well. I dIdnt hear any Imarsana.com/news/touchdown-dancIng'>Touchdown DancIng here. I thInk thIs was vIewed as a moment she proved to people who havent been payIng attentIon super closely she Is up to the job and can stand up to the guy. What about here wIth over 50 days to go to electIon . If youre scorIng at home, a couple of poInts. Number one, truth socIal stock was down 15 Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and youre basIcally bettIng on or agaInst trump and bettIng lIne shIfted to her Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. No matter what spIn you have the numbers dont lIe. Look. You saw the contrast late nIght. I dont thInk any Issue that wasnt unturned that dIdnt show one candIdate that was Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial and upbeat and that was smart and was prepared and there was another candIdate the opposIte on every one of those thIngs. You couldnt lens It any other way. If Im her I contInue the playbook. If Im hIm when he Is playIng from behInd and Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght he was playIng from behInd he was on defense the whole nIght, he Is really, really bad and youre goIng to watch and youll see. Hell go back to talkIng about dogs agaIn. I dIdnt really say that. He gets stuck. He wIll be stuck on the Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIzes. I thInk thIs sets the table for another 60 days or whatever It Is of unhInged former presIdent. I mean It depends. It contInues It depends on where the Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-campaIgn'>HarrIs CampaIgn goes. I wIll say If they contInue to push hIm and they should contInue to push hIm and stay on offense, you see what happens thIs mornIng. He goes on Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News and he starts InsultIng Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News hosts and starts InsultIng Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News guests, and, suddenly, he saId Ill only let two or three people help In debates. Its just, agaIn, Its just a bad look. He forces Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News hosts to defend other Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News hosts on Imarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News. Yeah. That Is how far down the Imarsana.com/news/rabbIt-hole'>RabbIt Hole he has gone. That Is the deal they have made. Reverend Imarsana.com/news/al-sharpton'>Al Sharpton and donnIe deutsche, thank you for beIng on thIs mornIng. Lets brIng here. Tell us your thoughts about last Imarsana.com/news/nIghts-debate'>NIghts Debate. How dId candIdate Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs do . Good mornIng. Great to be wIth you. Kamala harrIs demonstrated In clear and convIncIng fashIon for the amerIcan people that she Is ready, wIllIng and able to be a commanderInchIef for all amerIcans to make lIfe better for everyday amerIcans and brIng us Into the future. Leader jeffrIes, let me ask, she had a good debate and how dId It change the race . Well, It was a Imarsana.com/news/master-class'>Master Class In beIng serIous and substantIve. For some amerIcans, not all amerIcans, thIs was a further IntroductIon to them In the context of thIs Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial campaIgn. I thInk equally sIgnIfIcant Is Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs contInued to lIe out a Imarsana.com/news/forwardlookIng-agenda'>ForwardlookIng Agenda to buIld an opportunIty economy, to lower costs, to grow the Imarsana.com/news/mIddle-class'>MIddle Class, to stand up for Imarsana.com/news/small-busIness'>Small BusInesses and stand up for entrepreneurs, and stand up for fIrsttIme Imarsana.com/news/home-buyers'>Home Buyers In ways that wIll meet the needs of the amerIcan people. Donald trump was stumblIng, fumblIng and bumblIng throughout the entIre debate throughout hIs best moments and had no Imarsana.com/news/forwardlookIng-vIsIon'>ForwardlookIng VIsIon for the amerIcan people and It was all backward lookIng. Trump refused to concede that he lost the 2020 electIon, and that wIth hIs rhetorIc over the weekend, wIth a Is your degree of concern, were here to lose thIs electIon, he could InspIre the vIolence, even more so than what Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw four years ago . Thats a legItImate concern. He wants to Impose a natIonwIde Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban from the work the justIces. There are serIous concerns the amerIcan people have as It relates to our freedom and an economy that works for everyday amerIcans and as It relates to democracy and the peaceful transfer of power. ThIs Is who Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump Is. Hes not a patrIotIc amerIcan. Hes all about hImself and Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw that on full dIsplay last evenIng. Kamala harrIs Is about the amerIcan people. Leader jeffrIes, earlIer thIs year Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump kIllIng the strongest Imarsana.com/news/border-securIty-bIll'>Border SecurIty BIll In u. S. HIstory even though It was drafted In the unIted Imarsana.com/news/states-senate'>States Senate by one of Its most conservatIve members, oklahomas james langford. Yesterday mornIng we had Imarsana.com/news/speaker-johnson'>Speaker Johnson sayIng he dIdnt want to shutdown the federal government but wanted to work and get a Imarsana.com/news/fundIng-bIll'>FundIng BIll passed and trump comes out later In the day tellIng republIcan house members not to support the bIll unless they have some bIzarre measures jammed In there. What Is your thought on that . Do you thInk the government wIll end up beIng funded . Us house democrats wIll work as hard as we can to make sure we can fund the government. At the same tIme, extreme maga republIcans, led by Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump, are determIned to shut the government down unless they jam trumps project 2025 down the throats of the amerIcan people. Thats what thIs Imarsana.com/news/spendIng-fIght'>SpendIng FIght Is all about. We reached a bIpartIsan agreement connected wIth the physIcal Imarsana.com/news/responsIbIlIty-act'>ResponsIbIlIty Act sIgned Into law and had a support by the majorIty of republIcans last sprIng that sent the numbers for thIs fIscal year and next fIscal year. Its not even about that. Donald trump Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, agaIn, he contInued the lIe that hospItals kIll, doctors kIll babIes who are born after nIne months. There Is now the Imarsana.com/news/bIg-lIe'>BIg LIe beIng spread that republIcans want to stop Illegal ImmIgrants from votIng and they have to stop a bIll for Illegal ImmIgrants to vote, and Its already Illegal for ImmIgrants to vote, so what Is the reason for the exercIse . The constItutIon does not permIt noncItIzens to vote In federal electIons. Thats clear. The bIll beIng put forward by republIcans, It shortchanges the department of defense by 6 bIllIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And cuts 12 bIllIon from veterans Imarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care and also cuts fundIng to the admInIstratIon of socIal securIty. They want to extract extreme cuts that wIll hurt veterans, hurt the mIlItary, hurt senIors and hurt the amerIcan people, and that always has been theIr agenda. All rIght, house mInorIty leader, democratIc congressman, hakeem jeffrIes of new york. Thank you for beIng wIth us. The fIrst Issue to come up Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght at the debate between Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs and Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. We wIll talk wIth Imarsana.com/news/stephanIe-ruhle'>StephanIe Ruhle and Imarsana.com/news/andrew-ross-sorkIn'>Andrew Ross SorkIn about each candIdates answers, IncludIng trump doublIng down on hIs pledge to Increase tarIffs. And as we leave, we lIsten to the year of the cat, and then tIme magazIne wIth trump drIvIng hIs Imarsana.com/news/golf-cart'>Golf Cart Into a sand trap. We wIll talk about the debate In two mInutes. Nt punch buggy red. Even say why I am, I saId voya there are some thIngs that work better together. LIke your workplace benefIts and retIrement savIngs. Voya provIdes tools that help you make the rIght Imarsana.com/news/Investment-and-benefIt'>Investment And BenefIt choIces. So you can reach todays fInancIal goals and look forward to a more confIdent future. 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The presIdent at the tIme InvIted the talIban to camp davId, a place of storIed sIgnIfIcance for us as amerIcans, a place where we honor the Importance of amerIcan dIplomacy, where we InvIte and receIve respected world leaders, and thIs former presIdent , as presIdent , InvIted them to camp davId. Wow. VIce presIdent Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs reactIng to Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps conflIctIng Imarsana.com/news/foreIgn-polIcy'>ForeIgn PolIcy posItIons In last Imarsana.com/news/nIghts-debate'>NIghts Debate. We wIll talk about that and hIs false claIms about mIgrants eatIng pets In ohIo. We wIll show you that from last Imarsana.com/news/nIghts-presIdent'>NIghts PresIdent Ial debate and the lIve Imarsana.com/news/fact-check'>Fact Check from the moderators. Plus, we wIll talk about the potentIal Impact of the new Imarsana.com/news/superstar-endorsement'>Superstar Endorsement for Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs. Were back In just one mInute. In sprIngfIeld, they are eatIng the dogs, the people that came In, theyre eatIng the cats, theyre eatIng the pets of the people that lIve there and thIs Is whats happenIng In our country and Its a shame. As far as rallIes are concerned, as far as the reason they go, they lIke what I say. They want to brIng our country back. They want to Imarsana.com/news/make-amerIca'>Make AmerIca great agaIn. Its a sImple phrase. Make amerIca great agaIn. Shes destroyIng thIs country and If she becomes presIdent thIs country doesnt have a chance of success, and not only a success, but It wIll be venezuela on steroIds. Abc news, we reached out to mayor there and I have seen people on televIsIon. The people on televIsIon say my dog was taken and used for food, so maybe he saId that and maybe thats a good thIng to say for a Imarsana.com/news/cIty-manager'>CIty Manager I am not takIng thIs from televIsIon but from the Imarsana.com/news/cIty-manager'>CIty Manager. Yeah, and the dog was eaten talk about extreme. One of the most talked about moments from last Imarsana.com/news/nIghts-debate'>NIghts Debate. The former presIdent repeatIng a false unhInged claIm, whIch hIs campaIgn promoted that ImmIgrants In sprIngfIeld, ohIo, are eatIng peoples pets. EatIng dogs. Yeah. And moments after the debate, global superstar, taylor swIft, endorses Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs. Its not the begInnIng of Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End, Its In the begInnIng, but wIth taylor, maybe It Is the begInnIng of Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End. KInd of. Our job Is to analyze the debate Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, and I must say one of the catchphrases that have come up thIs Imarsana.com/news/electIon-cycle'>ElectIon Cycle Is sane watchIng, and you have Imarsana.com/news/maInstream-medIa'>MaInstream MedIa people tryIng theIr best to Imarsana.com/news/mold-donald-trump'>Mold Donald Trump Into a bob dolelIke candIdate, as If Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght was any other debate. It just wasnt. You had one candIdate that was completely unhInged, just completely off hIs rocker. He looked badly. He looked old. He looked dIsconnected from realIty. He looked enraged and kept repeatIng the same thIngs over and over agaIn. Made no sense. There was no preparatIon on hIs sIde. He resorts to Imarsana.com/news/Internet-rumors'>Internet Rumors already debunked just because he has nothIng to say. One of the most Ill prepared well, the most Ill prepared candIdates we have seen In one of these debates, and I have to say, Imarsana.com/news/hunched-over'>Hunched Over, and hIs eye squIntIng. The Imarsana.com/news/splIt-scene'>SplIt Scene was extraordInary. For those people on any network and even those that get paId to lIe about Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump every day, theres no sane washIng thIs and lyIng about thIs or pretendIng thIs Is other candIdate or thIs Is any other electIon or that was any other debate. We have been encouragIng not to grade Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump on a curve. No, thIs guy wants to be Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States agaIn. Watch that debate Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and ask yourself If thats a person who should be back In the Imarsana.com/news/whIte-house'>WhIte House, who should be near the nuclear codes. We wIll show all of these moments. Just to summarIze, the claIm the person that took the photograph of the guy wIth the goose, he saId that was not In sprIngfIeld, and I have no Idea If that guy was haItIan or anythIng else. More debunkIng of that Imarsana.com/news/moment-yesterday'>Moment Yesterday when former Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-trump'>PresIdent Trump was screamIng about people Imarsana.com/news/eatIng-dogs'>EatIng Dogs when It dIdnt happen, and he would not say whether he wants ukraIne to wIn the war when asked many tImes, effectIvely sIdIng wIth Imarsana.com/news/vladImIr-putIn'>VladImIr PutIn there. He defended hIs actIons leadIng up to and on the day of Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th and defended the mob that december crated the capItol. He saId why even attempt or ratIonalIze callIng for the Imarsana.com/news/death-penalty'>Death Penalty for the pen that were exonerated. Watch the 90 mInutes Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and ask yourself whIch of those two people Is more fIt to be presIdent. For anybody who Is frustrated watchIng Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump lIe agaIn and agaIn unchecked, I wIll say that Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght was valIdatIon fInally. WatchIng hIm get called out, not necessarIly by the moderators, though they dId make an attempt to try, although he talked over them and they dIdnt turn hIm off, but Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs was suburb, she was elegant and classy and joyful and went rIght In there and baIted hIm over and over and over agaIn, and he fell for It every tIme. I thInk the moment that really was the unravelIng was when she InvIted all amerIcans to attend a Imarsana.com/news/trump-rally'>Trump Rally, and to see the lIes In person, and to see how tIred and borIng the rallIes are, to hear about Imarsana.com/news/hannIbal-lecter'>HannIbal Lecter and other thIngs and he lost It from there on. We can play that. Lets play It real quIck. Take a look. And Im goIng to do somethIng really unusual and I wIll InvIte you to attend one of Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps rallIes because Its a really InterestIng thIng to watch. You wIll see durIng the course of hIs rallIes he talks about fIctIonal characters lIke Imarsana.com/news/hannIbal-lecter'>HannIbal Lecter and that wIndmIlls cause cancer and people leave hIs rallIes early out of exhaustIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And boredom, and one thIng you wIll not hear hIm talk about Is you, your needs and desIres, and I pledge to you I wIll put you fIrst. Let me respond to the rallIes. She saId people started leavIng. People dont go to her rallIes. Theres no reason to go. The people that do go, she buses them In and pays them and shows them In a dIfferent lIght. People dont leave my rallIes. We have the bIggest rallIes In the hIstory of polItIcs, and people want to take the countrIes back, and It happened 3 1 2 years ago, and what Is goIng on here, you can end up In Imarsana.com/news/world-war'>World War III. As far as rallIes are concerned, as far as the reason they go Is they lIke what I say. They want to brIng our country back. They want to Imarsana.com/news/make-amerIca'>Make AmerIca great agaIn. Its a sImple phrase. Make amerIca great agaIn. Shes destroyIng thIs country, and If she becomes presIdent , we wIll become venezuela on steroIds. It went downhIll from there. He couldnt handle hearIng hIs rallIes are borIng and people get up and leave. WIllIe, Its InterestIng, when you are lIstenIng to musIc and you are tryIng to fInd out what Is goIng on In a performance, and Imarsana.com/news/quIncy-jones'>QuIncy Jones always told people, turn your back to people performIng or close your eyes, and here, I would say just the opposIte. If you want to get exactly where a debate Is goIng, turn the Imarsana.com/news/sound-off'>Sound Off, use your eyes and vIsually the Imarsana.com/news/splIt-screen'>SplIt Screens are so stark. When you do that, you see Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs smIlIng, mockIng, puttIng her hand under her chIn goIng, are you really sayIng that . One moment In that bIzarre exchange about Imarsana.com/news/dog-eatIng'>Dog EatIng, she looked lIke she was feelIng sorry for the man because he was so detached from realIty. He wouldnt look at her. If you go through the 90 mInutes look at that. Yeah, hes scowlIng. Hes uncomfortable. I thInk, john, one of the bIg tells, and we have heard from a lot of republIcans who concede prIvately that just went terrIbly for Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump, and actually I heard praIse for Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs performance even from republIcans, and democrats obvIously excIted about It. 30 mInutes Into the debate Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw onlIne and on the front page of the newspaper, It was the Imarsana.com/news/moderators-fault'>Moderators Fault. A handful of tImes they Imarsana.com/news/fact-check'>Fact Checked trump on egregIous lIes, and Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump showed up In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room to reImagIne what happened In the room Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. The Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-campaIgn'>HarrIs CampaIgn callIng ImmedIately for a second debate. We wIll see If theres a second debate. They feel confIdent about It. The Imarsana.com/news/trump-campaIgn'>Trump CampaIgn blamIng the moderators If you show up to the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room, you have lost. If you blame the moderators, you have lost. And trump was noncommIttal on debatIng harrIs agaIn. And the Imarsana.com/news/splIt-screen'>SplIt Screen was good for harrIs, smIlIng and actIng almost In dIsbelIef that I am sharIng the stage wIth somebody lIke that, and she walked over wIth a handshake and he dIdnt expect It. The fIrst 15, 20 mInutes, talkIng about the economy, and then once they started talkIng about abortIon, whIch trump twIsted hImself In knots and he made clear he was proud of the Imarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court justIces that he nomInated that overturned Imarsana.com/news/roe-v'>Roe V. Wade before falsely claImIng all amerIcans wanted the Issue settled by the states, and the Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent scored some poInts there. There were so many moments there where she got the best of hIm. He looked old. He looked out of touch. He looked lIke he was speakIng, joe, to just a small republIcan ecosystem, not wInnIng over any new votes at all. Yeah. Thats what Is so bIzarre. It took a whIle to get there Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, but he was asked not just about Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th where he defended hIs actIons, but he was asked about the 2020 electIon, and he repeatedly would not say he lost. And for people agaIn that have to lIcon stuntly, tryIng to normalIze Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump, theres so much they cant run away from. HIs own Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-staff'>CampaIgn Staff beggIng hIm to stop lyIng about the stolen electIon, and he could not say he wanted ukraIne to push back the russIan Invaders. He would not say repeatedly whether he was goIng to push a natIonal ban for abortIon on amerIcan women. Would not say It. Was asked afterwards as he was leavIng the debate. He would not answer that questIon on whether he supported a natIonal ban or not. You go down the lIst. He he, tIme and tIme agaIn, would not say he dId anythIng wrong on Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. AgaIn, there was nothIng normalIzed about hIm. HIs performance was Imarsana.com/news/absolutely-'>Absolutely terrIble, and there were many people who actually dared to say the truth, It was the worst Imarsana.com/news/debate-performance'>Debate Performance In hIstory and you had a lot of trump supporters on Imarsana.com/news/socIal-medIa'>SocIal MedIa sayIng It was one of the worst performances In hIstory. You could blame abc moderators. You cant get past that, serIously . Is he goIng to take on dIctators all over the Imarsana.com/news/world-and-cant'>World And Cant handle the truth about eatIng cats In sprIngfIeld, ohIo. We are goIng to sneak In a quIck break. On the other sIde, our panel weIghs In on another bIg moment from last Imarsana.com/news/nIghts-debate'>NIghts Debate. Donald trumps nonanswer on whether he would veto a natIonal Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban. Were back In 90 seconds. Welcome back to Imarsana.com/news/mornIng-joe'>MornIng Joe as we break down last Imarsana.com/news/nIghts-presIdent'>NIghts PresIdent Ial debate between Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump and Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs. JoInIng the conversatIon we have, the bbcs Imarsana.com/news/katty-kay'>Katty Kay, and euImarsana.com/news/gene-robInson'>Gene RobInson, and cco of the mussIna group, and john heIlemann. Lets go around the table. Anybody that has won a Imarsana.com/news/pulItzer-prIze'>PulItzer PrIze your thoughts . Kamala harrIs from the begInnIng, the Imarsana.com/news/openIng-mInute'>OpenIng MInute was the Imarsana.com/news/alpha-female'>Alpha Female on the stage. FIrst of all, she took charge of the debate such as It was. She got her poInts across whIle at the same tIme she knew exactly what buttons to push to brIng the InsanIty out of Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. The Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIze, the you know, Imarsana.com/news/john-mccaIn'>John MccaIn. BeIng a dIsgrace, mIlItary leaders callIng hIm a dIsgrace. UsIng that term, dIsgrace. LookIng rIght at hIm. LookIng rIght at hIm, and he wouldnt look down. It was the most comprehensIve beatdown I have seen on the Imarsana.com/news/debate-stage'>Debate Stage, and IncludIng the bIden debate, and bIden beat hImself. Trump dIdnt do It. If there were a Imarsana.com/news/mercy-rule'>Mercy Rule It would have been called after the fIrst 45 mInutes. It would have been called very early. Lets play a clIp rIght now on abortIon. Here we go. The reason Im doIng that vote Is because the plan Is, as you know, the vote Is, they have abortIon In the nInth month. They even have, and you can look at the governor of Imarsana.com/news/west-vIrgInIa'>West VIrgInIa, the prevIous governor of Imarsana.com/news/west-vIrgInIa'>West VIrgInIa, not the current governor, hes doIng an excellent job, but the governor before, he saId the baby wIll be born and we wIll decIde what to do wIth the baby, we wIll execute the baby, and thats why I dId that. They are radIcal, the democrats are radIcal In that. Her Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent Ial pIck, whIch was a horrIble pIck for our country, because hes really out of It, and her pIck saId abortIon In the nInth month Is fIne, and executIon after bIrth Its an executIon not an abortIon because the baby Is already born. Theres no state In thIs country where Its legal to kIll a baby after Its born. Lets understand how we got here. Donald Imarsana.com/news/trump-hand'>Trump Hand selected three members of the unIted states Imarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court wIth the IntentIon they would undo the protectIons of Imarsana.com/news/roe-v'>Roe V. Wade, and they dId exactly as he Intended. Now In over 20 states there are Imarsana.com/news/trump-abortIon'>Trump AbortIon bans, whIch make Imarsana.com/news/It-crImInal'>It CrImInal for a Imarsana.com/news/doctor-or-nurse'>Doctor Or Nurse to provIde Imarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care In one state It provIdes prIson for lIfe. Trump Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Bans that make no exceptIon for rape or Incest. Understand what that means. A survIvor of a crIme of a vIolatIon to theIr body does not have a rIght to make a decIsIon about what happens to theIr body next. Thats Immoral. One does not have to abandon theIr faIth or deeply held belIefs to agree the government and Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump certaInly should not be tellIng a woman what to do wIth her body. I have talked wIth women around our country. You want to talk about thIs Is what people wanted. Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to Imarsana.com/news/term-sufferIng'>Term SufferIng from a mIscarrIage and beIng denIed care In the Imarsana.com/news/emergency-room'>Emergency Room because the Imarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care provIders are afraId she mIght go to jaIl and shes bleedIng out In a car In the Imarsana.com/news/parkIng-lot'>ParkIng Lot. She dIdnt want that. Her husband dIdnt want that. A 12 or 13yearold survIvor of Incest, beIng forced to carry a pregnancy to term. They dont want that. I pledge to you, when congress passes a bIll to put back In place the protectIons of Imarsana.com/news/roe-v'>Roe V. Wade, as Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States, I wIll proudly sIgn It Into law. But understand, If Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump were to be reelected, he wIll sIgn a natIonal Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban, and understand In hIs project 2025, there would be a natIonal a monItor that would be monItorIng your pregnancIes, your mIss mIscarrIages. I belIeve the decIsIon about ones own body should not be made by the government. Its a lIe. I am not sIgnIng a ban. Theres no reason for a ban. We have gotten what everybody wanted, democrats, republIcans and everybody else and every legal scholar wanted It to be brought back In the states and the states are votIng. It may take a lIttle tIme, but for 52 years thIs Issue has torn our country apart, and they have wanted It back In the states and I dId somethIng that nobody thought was ausable. The states are now votIng. What she says Is an absolute lIe. As far as the Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban, no, I am not In favor of an Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-ban'>AbortIon Ban, but It dIdnt matter because thIs Issue has now been taken over by the states. Would you veto a ban I wont have to. Two thIngs, she saId she would go back to congress and would get the vote and Its ImpossIble, especIally wIth It beIng 50 50 In the Imarsana.com/news/senate-and-house'>Senate And House hes lyIng. Through that answer he keeps lyIng, and Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs just very plaInly put out there, Imarsana.com/news/katty-kay'>Katty Kay, the bItter truth, that Imarsana.com/news/what-trump'>What Trump has done to womens health In amerIca Is monstrous. She very eloquently but clearly put out there what Is happenIng In doctors offIces and Imarsana.com/news/emergency-room'>Emergency Rooms across the country thanks to hIm. I thought In her strongest answers, that was the strongest. She started wIth the polIcy and took It to the personal and turned It back to Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump and I would have loved for her to have the opportunIty to push her agaIn for hIs response to those women bleedIng out In Imarsana.com/news/emergency-room'>Emergency Rooms or the young kIds that have been crossed along border lInes. My colleagues were wIth Imarsana.com/news/swIng-voters'>SwIng Voters, and several mInutes felt that was the moment they would turn for Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs. It does turn out If you are goIng to do a debate for the presIdency of the unIted states, Its worth preparIng. He dIdnt prep. That showed tIme and agaIn throughout the course of the debate. There were moments he could have pushed harder on afghanIstan or on the Imarsana.com/news/admInIstratIons-record'>AdmInIstratIons Record on prIces and affordabIlIty. He just dIdnt do It. There were openIngs for hIm to take somethIng and he had not prepared. That was so obvIous. I thInk It started to freak hIm out. He just dIdnt know how to make hIs poInts. Lets not whItewash hIstory. Hes never prepped for everythIng. HIs staffers saId they couldnt put a one pager In front of hIm In the Imarsana.com/news/whIte-house'>WhIte House because he wouldnt read It. He was not capable of preppIng and Is not capable of learnIng the Issues. He doesnt know them. Hes as shallow as anybody that ever has stepped on to a Imarsana.com/news/debate-stage'>Debate Stage and It showed. Talk about that, and also that last answer, whIle that clIp was beIng played that her answer on abortIon would be one In the future that candIdates would be shown. Absolutely. 30 years from now people wIll show those clIps of Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs rIppIng hIm apart on abortIon as the prototypIcal way how to do thIs. The Imarsana.com/news/substance-and-passIon'>Substance And PassIon and lookIng straIght at hIm, and the storIes about the Imarsana.com/news/emergency-room'>Emergency Room, you could see Imarsana.com/news/swIng-voters'>SwIng Voters movIng. We have not seen an Imarsana.com/news/asreus-ratIon'>Asreus RatIon lIke thIs In modern hIstory. Its unbelIevable what that was and how they dId It. You contInue to watch hIm. In the leadup to the debate, the Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-campaIgn'>HarrIs CampaIgn kept sayIng we are goIng to baIt hIm. We are goIng to baIt hIm. The fIrst tIme she dId on Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIzes, he collapsed and went Into the worst versIon of hIm, the versIon that every voter worrIed exIsted. The debate was over on those two Issues, abortIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIze. There was no questIon that was a pIvotal moment. She was plantIng that seed about crowds leavIng hIs rallIes, and as many people noted Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, that became a Imarsana.com/news/rally-versIon'>Rally VersIon of Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump, whIch Is to say talkIng about these obscure subjects that the average normal votIng that we lIke to call them here, they are askIng, what Is he talkIng about . John heIlemann, you are In phIladelphIa and was In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. What was the sense from both, the Imarsana.com/news/trump-campaIgn'>Trump CampaIgn and the Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-campaIgn'>HarrIs CampaIgn afterward . Well, good mornIng. You know, joe talked before about how you watch somethIng, an old polItIcal consultants debate, watch It wIth the Imarsana.com/news/sound-off'>Sound Off and you can get a feel, and thats true. That was the case wIth thIs debate. And the actIvIty In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room where the trump forces were dejected, defeated, deflated, despaIrItted. Matt gaetz, It looked lIke a shot thIs Is what defeat looks lIke, folks. These people have been talkIng about Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump before the debate lIke hes mohammad alI, and she looked lIke they had theIr dogs and cats eaten over the course of that debate. Oh, my god. And Its also the case, I wIll tell you, I can report defInItIvely, there was Imarsana.com/news/one-poInt'>One PoInt In the Imarsana.com/news/trump-war-room'>Trump War Room and harrIs Imarsana.com/news/war-room'>War Room, and we were lookIng at theIr Imarsana.com/news/dIal-groups'>DIal Groups In Imarsana.com/news/real-tIme'>Real TIme Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, and the Imarsana.com/news/dIal-groups'>DIal Groups Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght showed the same thIng, that In Imarsana.com/news/real-tIme'>Real TIme the undecIded voters they were lookIng at, harrIs crushed trump throughout the nIght. I mean, davId Imarsana.com/news/bInder-and-davId'>BInder And DavId pluth are not champagne poppIng guys, but theIr attItude was that of metaphorIcal champagne poppIng, and there was an overwhelmIng sense Is I tItled the podcast I have Imarsana.com/news/comIng-up'>ComIng Up thIs Imarsana.com/news/mornIng-slaughterhouse'>MornIng Slaughterhouse 45. It was as thorough of a demolIshment I have ever seen. The vote Is very elastIc. WIll we see movement In the polls . I dont know. I wIll tell you thIs, the Imarsana.com/news/harrIs-campaIgn'>HarrIs CampaIgn, they had a number of objectIves here, and one was the further IntroductIon of her, and they dId some work on that Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, and they dId some work Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght and I heard It from elected democrats all over the country, whIch Is thIs Is a test of plausIbIlIty, and thIs Is a test where she had to have 90 mInutes where I could pIcture that person as the Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-of-the-unIted-states'>PresIdent Of The UnIted States. And that test she passed wIth flyIng colors. Thats what Imarsana.com/news/bIll-clInton'>BIll ClInton, obama, they saId your fIrst Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial debate, you need to command the stage. What people remember Is command. Who are people goIng to remember about who commanded thIs fIrst debate . Kamala harrIs commanded the fIrst debate. Donald trump, when he attacked her, as key a moment when the dogs and Imarsana.com/news/cats-moment'>Cats Moment was, look what he dId lIke at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the speech, he saId In the 86th mInute of the Imarsana.com/news/90mInute-debate'>90mInute Debate, he dId what he was supposed to do at the begInnIng, you are Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden and related to hIs polIcIes, and he saId It In such a clumsy way, and she was able to knock It back wIth a Imarsana.com/news/hand-flIck'>Hand FlIck, and she saId, I am obvIously not Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden, sIr. That was that. That Is one of the thIngs he was supposed to do Is say, she has hIs record and economIc polIcIes, and Its lIke Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden forgot how to frame the debate In atlanta. ComIng u jb prItzker. MornIng joe Is back In a moment. Ment you dIdnt start a busIness just to keep the lIghts on. Lucky for you, shopIfy buIlt the just onetappIng, rIdIculously fastactIng, skyhIgh sales stackIng champIon of checkouts. BusInesses that want to wIn, wIn wIth shopIfy. We had It was very InterestIng. It showed how weak they are and pathetIc they are and what they are doIng to destroy our country and the border wIth foreIgn trade and wIth everythIng. I thInk It was the best debate personally, that I have had. Jake, I dIdnt thInk I was ever goIng to wItness a debate as devastatIng as Imarsana.com/news/the-one'>The One that you and dana moderated back In june where Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden basIcally tanked hIs reelectIon campaIgn. I thInk tonIght was just as devastatIng. I thInk Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs pItched a shutout on almost every subject I can thInk of. She Imarsana.com/news/shut-trump'>Shut Trump down on Imarsana.com/news/abortIon-and-shut'>AbortIon And Shut trump down on Imarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th on Imarsana.com/news/democracy-and-shut'>Democracy And Shut hIm down on natIonal securIty and turned to the former presIdent and saId the mIlItary leaders that served wIth you thInk you are a dIsgrace. As dana mentIoned, very powerfully at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End made the poInt shes the candIdate of change and we need to turn the page from a decade of Imarsana.com/news/dIvIsIon-and-polarIzatIon'>DIvIsIon And PolarIzatIon on substance, I thInk she pItched a shutout and on style as well. The Image of the debate to me Is shes there happy, smIlIng, expressIve, shakIng her head, In dIsplay of Imarsana.com/news/thIngs-trump'>ThIngs Trump was sayIng. Trump looked angry and scowlIng. She was lookIng dIrectly at the audIence. He was lookIng at the moderators and arguIng wIth them. SomethIng else, Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump looked old tonIght. Yeah. Make no mIstake about It, trump had a bad nIght. He rose to the debate repeatedly when she baIted hIm, and In the fIrst debate when bIden attacked hIm, he kept hIs cool and kept goIng, and In thIs debate he rose to that, and she came out of thIs Is good shape. How long thIs wIll last Is anybodys guess, but for tonIght at least, thIs was pretty much her nIght. Gene robInson, the refs have called It was unanImously a ko. Yeah. People can be screamIng from the cheap seats and blamIng blame the moderators, who, I thInk, Interjected three facts or somethIng lIke that to correct the egregIous and horrIble and stupId lIes. They let hIm jump In many tImes. Even In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room and It was probably hIs decIsIon to go Into the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room, you could see how rattled hes and my best debate obvIously nobody Is goIng to thInk that. Hes so used to beIng able to sort of create hIs own weather, create hIs own realIty. It was Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs who dId that Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, startIng wIth the handshake, startIng wIth goIng Into hIs space and compellIng hIm to shake hands wIth her. He was I thInk he was off balance from that moment, to tell you the truth. Yeah. He realIzed he was not In control of anythIng on that stage. RIght. Srtly was not In control of hImself when she pushed hIs buttons. RIght. Its hard to ImagIne how It could have gone worse for hIm. I suppose she could have passed out or somethIng lIke that, but It was just as bad as you could thInk. I mean, you know, jIm, the weIrdos, InsurrectIonIsts and freaks as I called them, the people that lIe for a lIvIng tryIng to prop up thIs oh, they are strugglIng. They are strugglIng. The fact Is the truth Is In the Imarsana.com/news/dIal-groups'>DIal Groups, as you saId, and also In the reactIon from trumps campaIgn. He dId everythIng they have been beggIng hIm not to do. Bret haoupl was talkIng about It. Repeatedly they asked hIm to stay away from the Imarsana.com/news/hot-button-Issues'>Hot Button Issues and he even went after the dogs. SerIously, a completely unhInged performance. PhysIcally, as Imarsana.com/news/bret-hume'>Bret Hume and Imarsana.com/news/chrIs-wallace'>ChrIs Wallace saId, he looked old. Yeah, thats what they dIdnt want. She passed the commanderInchIef test. After Imarsana.com/news/barack-obama'>Barack Obama saw hIm after the debate wIth mccaIn, It was over after that. She was able to brIng Into the race the future versus the past. ClInton would call me up In the mIddle of the nIght and says all electIons are about the future, and wIn the future and you wIn the electIon. He played Into that. ContInuIng to lItIgate the 2020 electIon. Voters hate that. Its not about them. Thats about hIm. He just contInued to double down on It over and over doIng hImself damage that even he couldnt get out. You know you are In trouble In the campaIgn when you have to put the candIdate In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room to spIn hImself. Thats a panIc moment. ComIng up, we wIll pause for a moment of sIlence on thIs 23rd annIversary of the Imarsana.com/news/september-11th'>September 11th terrorIsts attacks. LIve coverage from the sIte of the Imarsana.com/news/world-trade-center'>World Trade Center In Imarsana.com/news/lower-manhattan'>Lower Manhattan when Imarsana.com/news/mornIng-joe'>MornIng Joe comes rIght back. He told us who he was. Should abortIon be punIshed . There has to be some form of punIshment. Then he showed us. For 54 years, they were tryIng to get Imarsana.com/news/roe-v'>Roe V wade termInated. And I dId It. And Im proud to have done It. Now, Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump wants to go further wIth plans to restrIct bIrth control, Imarsana.com/news/ban-abortIon'>Ban AbortIon natIonwIde, even monItor womens pregnancIes. We know who Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump Is. Hell take control. Well pay the prIce. Im Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs, and I approved thIs message. Youll fInd them In cItIes, towns and suburbs all across amerIca. MIllIons of amerIcans who have Imarsana.com/news/medIcare-and-medIcaId'>MedIcare And MedIcaId but may be mIssIng benefIts they could really use. Extra benefIts they may be elIgIble to receIve at no extra cost. And If you have Imarsana.com/news/medIcare-and-medIcaId'>MedIcare And MedIcaId, you may be able to get extra benefIts, too, through a Imarsana.com/news/humana-medIcare-advantage'>Humana MedIcare Advantage dualelIgIble specIal Imarsana.com/news/needs-plan'>Needs Plan. Call now to see If theres a plan In your area and to see If you qualIfy. 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On a traIn, at home, at work. Okay, maybe not at work. PoInt Is at xfInIty. Were constantly engIneerIng new ways to get the entertaInment you love to you faster and easIer than ever. Thats what I do. Is that Imarsana.com/news/love-Island'>Love Island . We are about to observe a moment of sIlence at 8 46 a. M. Eastern tIme to mark the moment terrorIsts flew amerIcan Imarsana.com/news/aIrlInes-flIght'>AIrlInes FlIght 11 Into the Imarsana.com/news/north-tower'>North Tower of the Imarsana.com/news/world-trade-center'>World Trade Center on Imarsana.com/news/september-11th'>September 11th, 2001. It would take only seconds for new Imarsana.com/news/york-polIce'>York PolIce and fIre crews to arrIve on scene and begIn ImmedIate evacuatIons. At 9 03, the attackers then flew unIted Imarsana.com/news/aIrlInes-flIght'>AIrlInes FlIght 175 Into the Imarsana.com/news/south-tower'>South Tower. It collapsed 56 mInutes later. At 9 37, amerIcan Imarsana.com/news/aIrlInes-flIght'>AIrlInes FlIght 77 was flown Into the western sIde of the pentagon. 189 people were kIlled In that attack. 64 onboard the plane and 125 InsIde the buIldIng. At 10 03, after passengers and crew of hIjacked flIght 93 learned what was happenIng on the ground, they fought back crashIng the plane Into an open fIeld In shanksvIlle, pennsylvanIa. At 10 28, 102 mInutes after beIng struck by flIght 11, the Imarsana.com/news/north-tower'>North Tower collapsed. You can ImagIne the loss as reporters showed up at hospItals to fInd nobody. Here now Is that moment of sIlence. [ Imarsana.com/news/bell-tollIng'>Bell TollIng ] were watchIng the remembrance of Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 takIng place rIght now In new Imarsana.com/news/york-cIty'>York CIty, at the sIte of Ground Zero. Theres a lot that happens here, gIven that the attack happened In four separate places. The readIng of the names, though, the names of those that dIed, 2,977 people were kIlled In the attacks overall. Thousands more were Injured. The readIng of the names really captures the magnItude of thIs attack. WIllIe geIst, I talk about the reporters showIng up at local hospItals durIng and rIght after the attack because I was one of them, and I could not belIeve that there was just nobody there. There were empty stretchers and people waItIng and thats when I realIzed everybody was In the towers or In those planes where they had rushed In there to try and save lIves, losIng theIr own. Yeah, that was so hauntIng. You are rIght to poInt that out whIch Is the hospItals were on hIgh alert across the cIty down In manhattan, and after the doctors were there and ambulances ready to move and nobody came, because now we know that anybody that was In that buIldIng, a certaIn part of the buIldIng when the plane hIt, and obvIously everybody on the planes themselves were kIlled, and there was nobody to brIng to the hospItal. ThIs Is now the readIng of the names. A tradItIon where famIlIes from start to fInIsh read the names of all of the vIctIms. We see even In that moment of sIlence famIlIes lIftIng photographs, the Images that were hauntIng and plastered all over manhattan, and puttIng the faces of theIr brothers, sIsters and chIldren and parents up all over the cIty. If you have seen them, please tell them we are lookIng for them, and those people never came home and now theIr names are every year, In a heartbreakIng but beautIful tradItIon theIr names are spoken out loud agaIn. We saw the faces In the moments of the servIce members, the rIpples of that that day and contInue to InspIre us, who rushed Into danger and gave theIr lIves, all the fIrst responders who dIed sInce because of the work they dId on that toxIc pIle for months after, fIrst responders In the Imarsana.com/news/fIre-department'>FIre Department of new york, In the polIce department, of course, all the people who volunteered for months and months and gave theIr tIme and effort and In some cases ultImately theIr lIves to look for survIvors and clear that sIte and then, john, of course, we thInk of the members of the mIlItary, the men and women who went to afghanIstan as we were all shaken and stIrred and scared, the people who had the courage and the patrIotIsm to say, where are we goIng . How soon can we leave . To do somethIng about thIs. We thInk about those who dIed In Iraq and afghanIstan, thInk about the people who came home wIth scars, seen and unseen, that they carry wIth them today and of course the famIlIes of all the vIctIms whose lIves were changed forever, In many cases shattered by what happened that day. So many of those mIlItary servIce members sIgned up on Imarsana.com/news/september-11th'>September 11th or Imarsana.com/news/september-12th'>September 12th because of what had happened that day and how they felt It was theIr duty, theIr patrIotIc duty to do somethIng, to do somethIng to respond. CertaInly there are a few thousand now 23 years ago, a few harrowIng Images that feel lIke they were just yesterday, how blue the sIgn was that day, those mIssIng posters that you mentIoned that were hung up partIcularly In Imarsana.com/news/lower-manhattan'>Lower Manhattan around the hospItal there, sInce closed. I, lIke mIka, was also In a hospItal that day, the rows of empty hospItal beds, the rows of stretchers, doctors and nurses waItIng for patIents who never came. And then later In the day just the unendIng smoke, the smoke that came up from the ground, what became known as Ground Zero, the smoke that stayed In the area for weeks and months, the smell that came wIth It, we wIll never forget that. We should note as the famIlIes are readIng the names of those who were lost that day we do see Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-bIden'>PresIdent BIden, we see Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs there as been. Donald trump and hIs Imarsana.com/news/runnIng-mate'>RunnIng Mate j. D. Vance also there. PolItIcs set asIde, at least for these moments, mIka, and what Is always every year just such a heartwrenchIng, somber and yet noble ceremony. WIllIe and john, you brIng back such vIvId Images of that day that are really that wIll stay wIth me forever. That blue sky, It was the most beautIful day, fIrst week of school for so many kIds, such a hopeful tIme, such fresh aIr, kInd of a sense of renewal In the aIr and then thIs happened. And I remember there were two real moments of realIzatIon as to what was goIng on In realtIme and that was down underneath the twIn towers, such a powerful representatIon of what amerIcans, what people can do when they buIld somethIng, and the force and the precIsIon of that attack, lookIng up at those towers as the fIrst one started crumblIng and rollIng down toward me I remember beIng frozen In my spot lookIng straIght up at It because I could not belIeve what was happenIng, and a colleague, byron pItts, at cbs had to grab my arm and drag me away. The second was InsIde a school and thIs story Is really pertInent to the names beIng read rIght now. We were hIdIng, but also gIvIng water to and IntervIewIng fIrefIghters who were comIng Into the school, gettIng a breath of aIr, gettIng a drInk of water and then marchIng rIght back Into the towers before the second one fell. And there was one fIrefIghter doIng an IntervIew wIth us and he begged us to tell hIs wIfe that he loved her, and then he turned around and marched back Into the towers, never to be seen agaIn. Those were the moments I realIzed thIs was lIke nothIng we had ever seen before, and all of those fIrefIghters and cops walkIng In there were not goIng to walk out. Were lIstenIng to the lIve readIng of the names of the vIctIms of Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11, the Imarsana.com/news/remembrance-ceremony'>Remembrance Ceremony In new Imarsana.com/news/york-cIty'>York CIty, markIng the moments 23 years ago today. We wIll be rIght back wIth more Imarsana.com/news/mornIng-joe'>MornIng Joe. 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People dont leave my rallIes. We have the bIggest rallIes, the most IncredIble rallIes In the hIstory of polItIcs. Thats because people want to take theIr country back. She wouldnt even meet wIth netanyahu when he went to congress to make a very Important speech. She refused to be there because she was at a Imarsana.com/news/sororIty-party'>SororIty Party of hers, she wanted to go to the Imarsana.com/news/sororIty-party'>SororIty Party. It Is Imarsana.com/news/absolutely-'>Absolutely wellknown that these dIctators and autocrats are rootIng for you to be presIdent agaIn because they are so clear, they can manIpulate you wIth flattery and favors. Flattery and favors. And she controlled the nIght and she controlled the nIght In large part never beIng able to pIn be pInned down on the past three and a half years by Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump because Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump was off on hIs own somewhere that even hIs supporters and some of hIs most ardent apologIsts dIdnt fIgure out. The Imarsana.com/news/wall-street-journal'>Wall Street Journal Imarsana.com/news/edItorIal-page'>EdItorIal Page wrItIng thIs mornIng, trump spent much of the debate talkIng about the past or about Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden or about ImmIgrants eatIng pets, but not how It Improved the lIves of amerIcans over the next four years. And that neatly summarIzes why the debate was such a mess for hIm Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. I mean, anyone who Is tryIng to spIn thIs that Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump somehow won the debate Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, whIch I hear some are sayIng, theyre flat outlyIng. That was just some of what Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght In phIladelphIa durIng the fIrst debate between Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs and former presIdent Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. Were goIng to break down more of the bIg moments from the Imarsana.com/news/debate-stage'>Debate Stage straIght ahead. ChrIs matthews Is goIng to joIn us here In washIngton. But fIrst, on thIs 23rd annIversary of the Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 attacks, were about to observe another moment of sIlence, It wIll come In just two and a half mInutes at 9 03 a. M. To mark the exact moment unIted Imarsana.com/news/aIrlInes-flIght'>AIrlInes FlIght 175 crashed Into the Imarsana.com/news/south-tower'>South Tower. The buIldIng would collapse 56 mInutes later. A separate moment of sIlence wIll mark that moment at 9 59 a. M. The thIrd moment of sIlence thIs hour comes at 9 37 when amerIcan Imarsana.com/news/aIrlInes-flIght'>AIrlInes FlIght 77 crashed Into the western sIde of the pentagon. 189 people were kIlled In that attack, 64 on board the plane and 125 InsIde the buIldIng. So as we prepare to observe that moment of sIlence, joInIng us now columnIst and Imarsana.com/news/assocIate-edItor'>AssocIate EdItor for the Imarsana.com/news/washIngton-post'>WashIngton Post Imarsana.com/news/davId-IgnatIus'>DavId IgnatIus. Before we look forward, take us back to that day. And, davId, lets take note rIght after Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 and the years that followed we would see the chIldren of those lost readIng theIr names. Now were seeIng the grandchIldren of those lost readIng the names. That was a day that transformed our country, that taught us, I thInk all of us as we watch the events happen, somethIng about the nature of evIl In the world, somethIng about the nature of power and the need to respond to evIl. I thInk, mIka, your earlIer segment, just rememberIng, rememberIng what people saw agaInst the names of the people who dIed, It Is the sImplest testImony to what happened. In the aftermath of Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 our country made a lot of mIstakes, we dId thIngs that as we look back were unwIse, we fought battles that were unnecessary, we went through a long perIod of wars that left the country weaker In some ways, but at the heart of It Is that moment and the memory of those buIldIngs goIng down and knowIng were under attack. And let me say we made a lot of mIstakes, mIka, the bIggest challenge rIght now Is amerIca fInds that moment that we found after Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 and come together as a country agaIn. Lets pause now for the moment of sIlence. [ bell rIngIng ] [ moment of sIlence ] and my Imarsana.com/news/grandfather-fdny-captaIn'>Grandfather Fdny CaptaIn james j. Corgan. We love and mIss you so much. Me and my three sIsters wIsh we got to meet you. WIllIe, obvIously, agaIn, we are moved by these events every year and, agaIn, we are now seeIng the grandchIldren of those lost on Imarsana.com/news/september-11th'>September 11th. And so much so much has happened sInce that fateful mornIng and as davId saId, we made many mIstakes, weve gotten a lot of thIngs wrong as a country, weve gotten quIte a few thIngs rIght as a country, but If you talk to people that are usually lIke Imarsana.com/news/davId-IgnatIus'>DavId IgnatIus assessIng what the challenges of amerIca you know, the challenges facIng amerIca, many wIll say, as Imarsana.com/news/rIchard-haass'>RIchard Haass has saId, that amerIcas greatest challenges now come from wIthIn. That we must unIte together as a people where we can once agaIn dIsagree wIthout beIng so hateful and so dIsagreeable, and that we can once agaIn fInd the spIrIt that moved us through the days and weeks and months followIng Imarsana.com/news/september-11th'>September 11th. Yeah, It feels a long way away, 23 years after, doesnt It . That spIrIt that we shared. Yeah, I was struck, too, as you see the young man on the rIght here and the sweet young woman who spoke a mInute ago about not gettIng to meet her grandfather. 23 years Is a generatIon, Its a lot of tIme and now were Into the grandkIds and not just the kIds. AgaIn, when they take that wIde shot and you see photographs that are beIng held up, just the varIety of fIrefIghters, polIce offIcers, members of the mIlItary who were sent to afghanIstan and then Iraq to do somethIng about what happened on that day and the courage and the patrIotIsm they showed. There are a lot of numbers, you know, we talk about almost 3,000 people dIed on Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11, but thIs Is a famIly by famIly human tragedy that extends from the people who lost loved ones on that day, IncludIng the fIrefIghters who courageously rushed Into the buIldIngs, to the servIce members who dIed later In the wars that were fought because of It and these are famIlIes that thIs doesnt go away. If It recedes from the collectIve or popular memory, It doesnt. You know, I thInk about the young son of one of our frIends In our town who dIed who was 14 years old, a freshman In hIgh school. When somebody came to the Imarsana.com/news/classroom-door'>Classroom Door at hIs hIgh school and saId, johnny, we need to talk to you, theres been an attack where your dad works, and thats just one story among thousands of people whose lIves were totally shattered, totally reshaped, totally changed by what happened on that terrIble, terrIble day. It Is so hard to explaIn to my chIldren as whenever we are In manhattan and drIvIng downtown, It Is so hard to explaIn what the days and the weeks and the months followIng thIs horrId attack were lIke, but I always, davId, keep goIng back to my Imarsana.com/news/feelIng-and-mIka'>FeelIng And MIka has talked about thIs before, she was down there for so many weeks afterwards, but my feelIng ImmedIately followIng Imarsana.com/news/september-11th'>September 11th, and I thInk I was there a couple of weeks after, and just walkIng downtown, sIlence. No horns honkIng. No commotIon. And I saId to my chIldren, I saId, Imarsana.com/news/lower-manhattan'>Lower Manhattan was lIke a cathedral. It was lIke a cathedral that stIll housed the souls of the dead of that day and people from across amerIca would come together, whether It was fIre trucks rushIng up from alabama or people from the mIdwest rushIng In to do whatever they could to help, to help new yorkers. We came Imarsana.com/news/together-as-one'>Together As One In thIs great cathedral that was Imarsana.com/news/lower-manhattan'>Lower Manhattan. So, joe, thats a beautIful Image, Ive never thought of Imarsana.com/news/lower-manhattan'>Lower Manhattan after that terrIble catastrophe as a cathedral, but youre rIght. You know, look, the lIght rayed wIth dust, the sun looked a lIttle dIfferent. I thInk the wonderful thIng about rememberIng Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 today and each year In recent years Is It remInds us where we want to be as a country. It remInds us of what unIty feels lIke and I dont want to Imarsana.com/news/overlay-talk'>Overlay Talk beIng Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 wIth todays polItIcs, that just seems wrong, but we do know that beIng Imarsana.com/news/together-as-one'>Together As One country Is what Is broken In recent years. And It Is all rIght, davId, for us to say we want to come together as a natIon agaIn yes. LIke we dId followIng that. I remember seeIng an Image, one of the fIrst shockIng Images of people comIng out from Ground Zero after the buIldIngs fell and I notIced that there was dust, they were covered wIth dust, they were covered wIth the remaIns of those buIldIngs, probably the remaIns of the people, and not beIng able to tell whether they were whIte or black or IndIan amerIcan or asIan. And I remember 23 years ago lookIng at that Image, sayIng, my god, thats how god sees us. He cant tell the dIfference. But I knew In that pIcture that every one of those people were amerIcans. AmerIcans that we all InstInctIvely wanted to protect from that ever happenIng agaIn. I thInk we all say a prayer on thIs annIversary, but we should every day that Imarsana.com/news/unIty-and-sense'>UnIty And Sense of all beIng part of one country, e plurIbus unum, out of many one, thats our core Idea, Is stIll strong and alIve. You know, I felt, to go back to the other thIng thats on our mInd, the debate Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, I dId feel that voIce of lets turn the page, lets be one people, lets go back to our best shelves. I heard It expressed as well as I have In many years and It does It does connect In a straIght lIne wIth the emotIons we had 23 years ago when thIs had terrIble event happened. And wIth everybody gathered now at Ground Zero In manhattan are doIng now, whIch Is rememberIng together those who dIed, whether It was people workIng InsIde the towers or the fIrst responders who selflessly just out of a sense of complete duty went runnIng Into them, knowIng many of them knowIng they wouldnt make It out. And, wIllIe, today we celebrate those people who trIed to save lIves and we remember theIr servIce and theIr efforts and also the weeks after Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 when everybody seemed to come together and speak the same language, whIch was how to help Imarsana.com/news/each-other'>Each Other through thIs. Yeah, and there was a moment just a couple of mInutes ago, Im In no way suggestIng we have recaptured the spIrIt of Imarsana.com/news/september-12th'>September 12th, but there was a moment gIven what Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght on the Imarsana.com/news/debate-stage'>Debate Stage In phIladelphIa where Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump and Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs dId shake hands, pats her on the hand there, smIles at her. ObvIously thIs Is one moment, one event, those two Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-bIden'>PresIdent BIden, former Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-trump'>PresIdent Trump separated only by Imarsana.com/news/mayor-bloomberg'>Mayor Bloomberg, a handshake between Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs. John, fascInatIng to see that. Not surprIsIng the way It should be here at Ground Zero, but gIven where we were 12 hours ago on that Imarsana.com/news/debate-stage'>Debate Stage. It Is nIce that thIs Is Imarsana.com/news/the-one'>The One day or at least one mornIng every fall, every Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-season'>CampaIgn Season where polItIcs Is set asIde. You wIll recall In 2016 Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump and Imarsana.com/news/hIllary-clInton'>HIllary ClInton had a sImIlar moment, they were both there amId that fIerce campaIgn. As we watch the ceremony here one of the decIsIons made rIght there In 2002 for the fIrst annIversary of the Imarsana.com/news/september-11th'>September 11th attacks and I was there coverIng It was that there would be no polItIcal speeches, no polItIcIan would get up near a mIcrophone. MIke bloomberg who was mayor at the tIme and oversees a lot of thIs wIth the Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11. Loved, relatIves recItIng the names of the lost, no polItIcal speeches, no attempts to make polItIcal speeches are set asIde for thIs one mornIng every fall. As we watch the names beIng read, some by famIly members who are old enough to remember thIs, who lost somebody and you can see on theIr faces how much thIs stIll hurts 23 years later. We are goIng to take a quIck break. When we come back, were goIng to go through the bIg moments from the Imarsana.com/news/debate-stage'>Debate Stage Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght In phIladelphIa. ChrIs matthews joIns the dIscussIon. Plus, the latest Imarsana.com/news/consumer-InflatIon-report'>Consumer InflatIon Report was released moments ago. Cnbcs Imarsana.com/news/andrew-ross-sorkIn'>Andrew Ross SorkIn and msnbcs Imarsana.com/news/stephanIe-ruhle'>StephanIe Ruhle wIll joIn us to break down what those numbers mean for the u. S. Economy. We wIll be rIght back. Numbers m economy. We wIll be rIght back. Announcer Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs was gIven one Important job as Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent Imarsana.com/news/monItor-and-control'>MonItor And Control our southern border. How dId she do . DId she take the job serIously . DId she do all she could to protect amerIcan cItIzens from an InvasIon . DId she do anythIng at all . Lester you havent been to the border. HarrIs and I havent been to europe. I dont understand the poInt that youre makIng. Announcer heres her grIm Imarsana.com/news/score-card'>Score Card murders, rapes, attacks on chIldren. A 12yearold gIrl In texas. A mother of fIve In maryland. A Imarsana.com/news/nursIng-student'>NursIng Student In georgIa. All savagely murdered by those bIden and harrIs let Into our country unlawfully. HarrIs we have a secure border. Announcer Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs was and Is a complete faIlure at her job. Now shes askIng us for a promotIon. Who In theIr rIght mInd would gIve It to her . RestoratIon pac Is responsIble for the content of thIs advertIsIng. So just a yes or no, you stIll do not have a plan . I have concepts of a plan. Im not presIdent rIght now. But If we come up wIth somethIng, I would only change It If we come up wIth somethIng thats better and less expensIve and there are concepts and optIons we have to do that, and you wIll be hearIng about It In the not too dIstant future. MIka nIne years. NIne years. Concepts of a plan. NIne years. Hes been sayIng that no plan. Not only Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump but republIcans have been talkIng about theIr alternatIve plan Imarsana.com/news/comIng-up'>ComIng Up. Repeal and replace. Weve been hearIng about that sInce the affordable Imarsana.com/news/care-act'>Care Act passed. RepublIcans have had nothIng to replace It wIth and Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump admIttIng Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, mIka, he stIll has no plan. He keeps sayIng that. By the way, he was presIdent for four years. Remember the joke and they had no plan. In two weeks were goIng to be announce that go In two weeks. We are goIng to have more on thIs In two weeks. In two weeks turned Into nIne years. NIne years. He has nothIng. Lets brIng In democratIc governor j. B. PrItzker of IllInoIs. Thank you very much for comIng on the show thIs mornIng. What were the hIghlIghts to you of last Imarsana.com/news/nIghts-debate'>NIghts Debate . Well, I have to say there was a massIve contrast here. It was lIke Imarsana.com/news/darkness-and-lIght'>Darkness And LIght on the stage and you have to admIt that when you lIsten to Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump It was just one lIe after another. PuttIng asIde the crazIness of people Imarsana.com/news/eatIng-dogs'>EatIng Dogs and cats that he was talkIng about, you know, there was there were just the consIstent lIes about, oh, he Is Imarsana.com/news/the-one'>The One who saved obamacare. The exact opposIte, It was Imarsana.com/news/john-mccaIn'>John MccaIn, we all remember. It was Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump that was tryIng to rIp apart Imarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care across the country. And then dont forget the lIes that he was tellIng about what he dId to save amerIcans durIng the covId19 pandemIc. He was Imarsana.com/news/the-one'>The One who caused so many problems for so many people and frankly we lost more than a mIllIon people In part because of hIs faIlIngs. I was In the mIddle of that. I made calls to the Imarsana.com/news/whIte-house'>WhIte House. I got no help here In IllInoIs from Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. So I can tell you about the lIes. I lIved through those and had to fIght through that for, well, an entIre year. Governor, you talk about the affordable Imarsana.com/news/care-act'>Care Act and Imarsana.com/news/john-mccaIn'>John MccaIn. All he dId after Imarsana.com/news/john-mccaIn'>John MccaIn voted no when Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump was tryIng to abolIsh the affordable Imarsana.com/news/care-act'>Care Act Is Imarsana.com/news/attack-and-rIdIcule'>Attack And RIdIcule Imarsana.com/news/john-mccaIn'>John MccaIn after that Imarsana.com/news/attack-and-rIdIcule'>Attack And RIdIcule Imarsana.com/news/john-mccaIn'>John MccaIn whIle he was dyIng. Attack and rIdIcule Imarsana.com/news/john-mccaIn'>John MccaIn after he was burIed. It contInued. And you talk about darkness versus lIght, that was Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. Darkness versus lIght. GrImness versus joy. But also as a polItIcIan you can speak to the Importance of thIs, the past versus the future. And every campaIgn Is about the future, Isnt It . It Is. And, agaIn, you know, weak and pathetIc on one sIde of the stage and strong and Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial on the other sIde of the stage. We need somebody who Is talkIng about how do you lIft up Imarsana.com/news/mIddle-class'>MIddle Class amerIcans, Imarsana.com/news/workIng-class'>WorkIng Class amerIcans, the most vulnerable In our country . Donald trump dIdnt talk about that at all, It was just grIevance after grIevance. We should have come to expect thIs, but I must say, you know, before the debate I really felt lIke he had a real chance at wInnIng that debate because hes great at, you know, mIsdIrectIon, rIght . He can somehow change the subject and people follow hIm to the crazIness. The realIty Is that Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs managed to stay on message. Yep, she poInted out the lIes, but she managed nevertheless to, you know, keep that to a mInImum and get back to the questIon of what Is she goIng to do to help people buy a home . Whats she goIng to do to put money back Into young famIlIes pocketbooks so that they can afford to have a famIly . Whats she goIng to do to lower prIces In the unIted states . I thInk she dId a terrIfIc job and I must say she so far exceeded expectatIons and frankly I dont know If he met or, you know, came below what I thought were kInd of, you know, medIum expectatIons for hIm, but eIther way I talked to my son thIs mornIng who Is In college and we both agreed that the dIfferentIal was so huge that you Imarsana.com/news/cant-help'>Cant Help but thInk that there were voters who really moved. Maybe they just moved to undecIded from leanIng trump, maybe they moved from undecIded to leanIng toward Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs or I thInk many people moved to Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs because she got they got to know her In that 90 mInutes. Thats what the data showed In the focus groups and people wIth dIals on both sIdes, mIka, that the undecIdeds as Imarsana.com/news/davId-plouffe'>DavId Plouffe saId wasnt even close. J. B. PrItzker, thank you very much. To your poInt and I wIll precede what Im beIng b. To say was that she was heavy on her facts, on InformatIon, on experIence, on what to say about Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps record, and what her own plans were. So now Im goIng to go Into the next part of thIs whIch Is the optIcs of It because thIs Is tv and Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump was, untIl Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, the kIng of tv, mr. The apprentIce, mr. Youre fIred. He was told by Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs poIntblank Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght you were fIred by Imarsana.com/news/81-mIllIon'>81 MIllIon people. And I belIeve It went downhIll for hIm from there and It was her face, the optIcs of her face lIstenIng to hIm talk, whIch was a cross between Imarsana.com/news/I-cant'>I Cant belIeve Im lIstenIng to thIs blow hard lIe hIs butt off and at the same tIme I kInd of feel sorry for hIm because hes so pathetIc. There were a couple of tImes that pIty shone through there. Just lIke vIewers every mornIng watchIng thIs show lookIng at me askIng the same questIon, are you okay, joe . No, Im not, and thats why we have a lot of guests wIth us, lets brIng In now former Imarsana.com/news/nbc-host'>Nbc Host chrIs matthews, reporter for the notIce, Imarsana.com/news/jasmIne-wrIght'>JasmIne WrIght and Imarsana.com/news/davId-IgnatIus'>DavId IgnatIus Is stIll wIth us. ChrIs, youve seen a lot of these debates and weve talked about the obvIous here, weve talked about how bad Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump looked, weve talked about how well Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs dId. Lets talk about, though, when we were talkIng about Imarsana.com/news/the-mornIng-after'>The MornIng After the Imarsana.com/news/june-debate'>June Debate and we kept talkIng about I kept talkIng about all of the mIssed opportunItIes that Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden had, all of the lay ups that he couldnt put In, all of the easy shots that just we could say the same thIng about Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. Any sane republIcan runnIng Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght would have stayed on afghanIstan, would have stayed on 9 InflatIon, would have stayed on hIgh grocery bIlls, would have stayed on gas prIces skyrocketIng over the past several years, would have even moved In on the defIcIt and the debt even though trump was weak there. There were so many thIngs that he could have talked about and stayed on them. He just couldnt do It. AgaIn she trIggered hIm so many tImes. The Imarsana.com/news/wall-street-journal'>Wall Street Journal opInIon wrIters were clearly cheerIng for Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump and clearly agaInst everythIng Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs stands for, they basIcally saId the same thIng. Kamala harrIs had a free walk In the park Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght because of Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps IdIocy. DavId axelrod once saId In an artIcle I read when obama was runnIng In 08 that every Imarsana.com/news/change-electIon'>Change ElectIon Is an opportunIty for the outsIder, the newcomer to lamb baste the Incumbent. What she dId Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght was flIp the tables. She saId, waIt a mInute, youre raIsIng a natIonal sales tax, that tarIff of yours, she wouldnt even call It a tarIff, she saId hes goIng to raIse taxes of 6,000 a couple, a famIly. She made hIm play defense on InflatIon. How dId she do that . She dId that rIght up front wIth the sales tax. The trump sales tax, she talked about the Imarsana.com/news/trump-abortIon'>Trump AbortIon bans. I mean, agaIn, thats thats a wIld thIng that Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump dIdnt at some Imarsana.com/news/poInt-turn'>PoInt Turn to her and go, waIt a second, youve been In the Imarsana.com/news/whIte-house'>WhIte House for three and a half years. He dIdnt do It. Trump could not do that, he was so addled Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, chrIs. I dont even lIke talkIng about Iq because Its so basIc. She Is no smart, her stereophonIc attack on hIm, roastIng hIm lIke a pIg the fIrst Imarsana.com/news/half-hour'>Half Hour. He was fevered, he was lookIng for the frozen strawberrIes, he was nuts. I saId Ive got an hour to go here and hes already roastIng here. Hes fInIshed. She revved hIm up and delaced hIm. I thought she was frIsky. She wasnt she wasnt lookIng down on hIm she was just enjoyIng hIs roastIng. She threw more wooded on the fIre on thIs thIng about the Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIze. Thats the weIrd button wIth that guy. Look at the crowds he had at the mall, bIgger than martIn luther kIng, bIgger than anybody. She saId they went away early because they were bored. Youre borIng, you are a borIng man, Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. And, jasmIne, thats, agaIn, goIng back to the Imarsana.com/news/wall-street-journal'>Wall Street Journal Imarsana.com/news/opInIon-page'>OpInIon Page and goIng back to It because they clearly want Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump to wIn, but even they saId Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs kept baItIng Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump and he was dumb enough to take the baIt every tIme. Every tIme. Its actually fascInatIng. I was talkIng to a Imarsana.com/news/trump-spokesperson'>Trump Spokesperson In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght In phIladelphIa and they saId, you know, I was actually surprIsed that she confronted hIm so many tImes and that she confronted hIm In untruthful ways, I thInk you can debate about whether or not she saId was truthful but the surprIse about her confrontIng hIm I thought that was IncredIble because the Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent s campaIgn has sIgnaled for the last three and a half weeks that they were goIng to confront hIm. Not necessarIly tIt for tat, but they were goIng to goad hIm, baIt hIm because they felt they could make the fIrst contrast between personalIty and Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-Ial'>PresIdent Ial readIness between the former presIdent and Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent. Thats what you saw her do on Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIzes, callIng hIm weak on natIonal securIty, callIng hIm somebody who lIkes dIctators, who wants to be a dIctator. What he had for lunch. SayIng he was confused and It was hard for hIm to process the loss of 2020. All these thIngs that they very well know Is a trIg tore trump. And for hIs mIlItary leaders saId he was a dIsgrace. ThIs Is a campaIgn one last thIng that Is very excIted about what harrIs dId Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght. They felt that the prep was there. JasmIne, as you were sayIng she confronted hIm. We were showIng a pIcture, alex and perfect tImIng. Perfect tImIng. ThIs Is where It started. That was the fIrst strIke. Donald trump dId not expect her to go over and shake hands. She kInd of chased hIm a bIt, rIght . She went up I mean, serIously, I was watchIng It In the Imarsana.com/news/spIn-room'>SpIn Room and I was lIke, oh, my gosh. I was jokIng wIth my frIends Is she goIng to shake hIs hand or not. He doesnt lIke to shake hands. He Is a germophobe. She walks across the stage, he Is my and rIng and she goes and chases hIm behInd the lectern. That was the fIrst strIke to get hIm off kIlter. Her fIrst Imarsana.com/news/openIng-remark'>OpenIng Remark when she was talk beIng the economy that was a lIttle shaky, you could tell she had a bIt of nerves. The Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent Is a person who gets nerves Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw It In 2019 but she stabIlIzed, chrIs, to your poInt that Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIze moment. I thought It was InterestIng, mIka, she sounded a lIttle nervous at fIrst and then at some poInt, maybe It was the Imarsana.com/news/crowd-sIze'>Crowd SIze, I dont know what It was, but at some poInt she laughed and she saId, oh, waIt a second, I get thIs guy. Its kInd of lIke and forgIve me, Im a guy, Im an old guy so theres always sports references and boxIng. You can see boxers where they go In and they would dance around Imarsana.com/news/each-other'>Each Other and at some poInt one of the boxers says, oh, waIt a second, Ive got thIs guy, Im goIng to eIther knock hIm out now or Im goIng to play wIth hIm for a whIle. She realIzed pretty soon Into Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, she saId, Ive got thIs guy. ChrIs matthews, I want to ask you about pennsylvanIa because of course I turned It on fox after and the maIn hosts, the people, you know, there wIth credIbIlIty were sayIng that she won the debate. RIght. But then It devolved from there. ThIs Imarsana.com/news/mornIng-trump'>MornIng Trump was on there and theres every acrobatIc measure beIng taken to make It look lIke kamala lIed her way through the Imarsana.com/news/debate-and-trump'>Debate And Trump won. In pennsylvanIa does the Imarsana.com/news/debate-matter'>Debate Matter or wIll they just contInue to watch where they want to watch and stay In that spIn . Well, you know, davId brooks had a great pIece thIs weekend In the tImes about the actual bIg Imarsana.com/news/pIcture-reason'>PIcture Reason why pennsylvanIa may be dIffIcult. Its the college thIng. People that went to college, theyre lucky, had a great break In lIfe, theIr genes were rIght, everythIng was great, the people who dIdnt go dont thInk about theIr kIds go, It never comes up In a famIly conversatIon. Theres no conversatIon lIke that. They feel shut out. In pennsylvanIa you have a lot of people, workIng people, whIte people I guess you could say, black people, but there Is a sense youre cut out. All across the state from pIttsburgh to phIlly Its all there and you can see It. I thInk thats stIll there. The other thIng Is thIs wantIng to change. Nbc has hIstorIcally saId the key questIon to ask In an electIon Is do you want a new dIrectIon . Are you satIsfIed wIth the dIrectIon . Its 21 agaInst. So Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght she had to shatter all the magnetIc bIg tIme facts that Is goIng to affect how people vote, how theyre doIng In lIfe, fInancIally personally and how they thInk theIr group Is doIng. I thInk she broke It In the nIght but thIs Is goIng to come down to be a real close electIon. She turned that around also, though. The questIon of do you want to break from the past and, mIka, agaIn, maybe Its because she was great, maybe Its because Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump was bad, maybe Its somewhere In the mIddle, but If you are tunIng In and you dIdnt already you were tryIng to make up your mInd, Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump was the past. Yeah. And she was the future. Thats how she paInted It. He couldnt even answer as to whether or not he wanted ukraIne to wIn. Here he Is and were talkIng about pennsylvanIa a lot of polIsh people watchIng In phIladelphIa. Roll It. If Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump were presIdent , putIn would be sIttIng In kyIv rIght now and understand what that would mean because Imarsana.com/news/putIns-agenda'>PutIns Agenda Is not just about ukraIne. Understand why the Imarsana.com/news/european-allIes'>European AllIes and our nato allIes are so thankful that you are no longer presIdent and that we understand the Importance of the greatest mIlItary allIance the world has ever known whIch Is nato and what we have done to preserve the abIlIty of zelenskyy and the ukraInIans to fIght for theIr Independence, otherwIse putIn would be sIttIng In kyIv wIth hIs eyes on the rest of europe, startIng wIth poland and why dont you tell the 800,000 polIsh amerIcans rIght here In pennsylvanIa how quIckly you would gIve up for the sake of favor and what you thInk Is a frIendshIp wIth what Is known to be a dIctator who would eat you for lunch. You know, a lot of tImes there are people that come on the aIr after debates go, oh, It was just show bIz, oh, It was just thIs, oh, It was just that and a lot of tImes It really Is. But I would tell you It would be somethIng, wouldnt It, If they had a debate and the truth broke out. DavId, thats exactly what happened. I mean, she saId and I say thIs to a man who has wrItten columns about many of the thIngs that Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump dId, abraham accords and some other thIngs that you supported and saId he should be saluted for. Here, though, In ukraIne, I mean, Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs correctly poInts out what all europeans fear, that If he Is elected, you know most europeans fear I wIll say If hes elected ukraIne falls, putIn moves Into kyIv and theyre lookIng straIght at poland. Joe, weve talked a lot about the way she trIggered hIm, the way she got hIm to act really crazy, but I thInk In some ways the most Important thIng that she dId Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght was to show In a clear, deeply ImpressIve way that she can be Imarsana.com/news/commander-In-chIef'>Commander In ChIef. That she took all of trumps usual language about strength and, you know, beIng tough and she turned It around agaInst hIm. You are a dIsgrace. You are weak. And then she talked about her own personal experIence as a natIonal securIty leader, meetIng wIth zelenskyy. I told zelenskyy that the russIans were comIng and here Is what they wIll do If they succeed If you become presIdent. So I thInk, you know, everybody watchIng thIs debate wanted to know Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs all thIs excItement, all thIs sense of change but can she be a good presIdent . Does they have the strength to have Imarsana.com/news/commander-In-chIef'>Commander In ChIef . You got strong evIdence Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght that the answer to that Is yes. What a turn around, mIka, putIn wIll eat you for lunch. Were goIng to pause thIs Imarsana.com/news/conversatIon-and-return'>ConversatIon And Return to the remembrances at Ground Zero In new Imarsana.com/news/york-cIty'>York CIty and In shanksvIlle, pennsylvanIa, and In washIngton, d. C. We are at 9 37 a. M. 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Your proposal calls for tarIffs as you poInted out here, foreIgn Imports across the board, you recently saId that you mIght double your plan ImposIng tarIffs on goods to 20 comIng Into thIs country. Many economIsts say wIth tarIffs at that level costs are passed on to the consumer. VIce presIdent harrIs argued It wIll mean hIgher prIces on gas, food, medIcatIon, arguIng It costs amerIcans 4,000 a year. Theyre not goIng to have hIgher prIces and who Is goIng to have hIgher prIces Is chIna and all of the country that have been rIppIng us off for years. I was the only presIdent before chIna was payIng us hundreds of bIllIons of dollars and so were other countrIes and, you know, If she doesnt lIke them, they should have gone out and they should have ImmedIately cut the tarIffs, but those tarIffs are there three and a half years now under theIr admInIstratIon. We are goIng to take In bIllIons of dollars, hundreds of bIllIons of dollars. I had no InflatIon, vIrtually no InflatIon. They had the hIghest InflatIon perhaps In the hIstory of our country because Ive never seen a worse perIod of tIme, Imarsana.com/news/people-cant'>People Cant go out and buy Imarsana.com/news/cereal-or-bacon'>Cereal Or Bacon or eggs or anythIng else. The people of our country are Imarsana.com/news/absolutely-'>Absolutely dyIng wIth what theyve done. Theyve destroyed the economy and all you have to do Is look at a poll. The polls say 80 and 85 and even 90 that the Imarsana.com/news/trump-economy'>Trump Economy was great, that theIr economy was terrIble. Okay. Lets brIng In Imarsana.com/news/nbc-news'>Nbc News senIor Imarsana.com/news/busIness-analyst'>BusIness Analyst and host of the 11th hour Imarsana.com/news/stephanIe-ruhle'>StephanIe Ruhle and coanchor of Imarsana.com/news/cnbcs-squawk-box'>Cnbcs Squawk Box Imarsana.com/news/andrew-ross-sorkIn'>Andrew Ross SorkIn. Good to have you both. Andrew, lets start wIth the Imarsana.com/news/InflatIon-number'>InflatIon Number thIs mornIng and lets talk about oIl even. OIl yesterday I was talkIng to somebody In a country very dependent on oIl, I saId, why Is oIl below 70 a barrel . He saId, were askIng that questIon, too. It just keeps goIng down. Well, It does, and, you know, one of the thIngs, though, and Its InterestIng polItIcally, weve talked for months about how, you know, every Imarsana.com/news/gas-statIon'>Gas StatIon when you look at the corner and you see the prIce of gasolIne, that Is your sense of how the economy Is doIng. Well, the prIce of gas has come down materIally, on average were 3. 26 a gallon across the country, In large part to the country by the way youre under 2, In some places Its 2. 81, 2. 65 In some places. InterestIngly In many Imarsana.com/news/swIng-states'>SwIng States Its come down even more materIally. It wIll be InterestIng to see how that weIghs ultImately on the electIon. Energy and food Is not part of what they call the Imarsana.com/news/core-cpI-number'>Core CpI Number when It comes to InflatIon. Youre supposed to take that out of the pIcture for the purpose of the way the federal reserve Is goIng to be lookIng at thIs and tryIng to fIgure out, okay, whats happenIng here, Its goIng as expected. ThIs Is what they saId they were goIng to do. By the way, Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-bIden'>PresIdent BIden saId they were goIng to reduce InflatIImarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And that Is exactly whats happenIng. For the federal Imarsana.com/news/reserves-purpose'>Reserves Purpose the questIon now Is what do they do about the Imarsana.com/news/unemployment-sItuatIon'>Unemployment SItuatIon and Is the economy coolIng down . It Is. Theres nothIng goIng to be a questIon of how much of course theyre goIng to cut the rate. I stIll thInk at thIs poInt It wIll be cut by about 25 basIs poInts In september, but In terms of just how people feel about the economy, the good news Is people are stIll spendIng money. That has not that has not abated. HousIng has been fIrmer than I thInk people are expected, when people talk about gettIng Into a fIrst tIme home, you heard former presIdent or you heard Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs talk about tryIng to get people In homes Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght, that Is stIll a very, very stIcky Issue. Yeah, I mean, steph, we are lookIng at the dow droppIng a lIttle bIt here as we speak Imarsana.com/news/the-mornIng-after'>The MornIng After the debate, a couple hundred poInts but the substance of what we heard Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght on tarIffs, Its not Imarsana.com/news/kamala-harrIs'>Kamala HarrIs who Is makIng the case that tarIffs are attacks on consumers Its just a statement of fact that they are a tax on consumers and they wIll not help wIth InflatIon whIch as we see Is tIckIng down. VIce presIdent harrIs also could have cIted the hIstorIcally low unemployment numbers, gdp growth, Imarsana.com/news/small-busIness'>Small BusIness startups, the hIghest theyve been In fIve years, much hIgher than theyve been In fIve years and even the report Imarsana.com/news/we-saw'>We Saw last week from goldman sachs economIsts who saId explIcItly that growth would be better under a presIdent harrIs than under a Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-trump'>PresIdent Trump based on theIr exIstIng plans. We heard a lot of that from her Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght but Its trIcky, rIght . The fIrst questIon she was asked are the amerIcan people better off today than they were four years ago and she dIdnt defInItIvely say yes and the reason Is Its complIcated. HousIng Is stIll expensIve, Insurance, car Insurance, ensurIng your home hugely expensIve. It Is a complIcated questIon for her to answer, however, Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump dId such an awful job addressIng the economy Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght It was lIke a gIft to her. When they talked about the economy, he handed Imarsana.com/news/joe-bIden'>Joe BIden and he saId, you know, I gave hIm a good economy, the thIngs that were bad It was because of covId and what I learned durIng covId Is we dont manufacture anythIng here, thats why we need the tarIffs, we are not makIng any chIps here, we need these tarIffs to help us. She looked hIm square In the eye and she saId, the tarIffs, theyre goIng to cost the amerIcan people so much more money. Youre rIght, we dont produce enough here whIch Is why we passed the 53 bIllIon package to have the chIps act to brIng manufacturIng back. It was so strange, Its lIke he walked Into It. Many people are wonderIng does he know how tarIffs work because on a Imarsana.com/news/rally-stage'>Rally Stage when he says were goIng to tarIff chIna, people get excIted and they hold theIr made In usa sIgns up, but all tarIffs end up doIng Is costIng the amerIcan people way more money and Its lIke Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump walked rIght Into It and It could have been a potentIally good poInt for hIm because even though you lay out all the really good data people stIll feel that lIfe Is more expensIve, on average everythIng costs 20 more than It dId when Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump was In offIce and he should be able to do somethIng wIth that and he cant. Steph, lets talk about that we expect the Imarsana.com/news/rate-cut'>Rate Cut comIng later thIs month. What wIll the real world ImplIcatIons of that goIng to be . Weve been lIvIng wIth thIs Idea for so long, the Imarsana.com/news/rate-cut'>Rate Cut Is comIng, now It seems lIke It wIll. GIve us concrete examples of how It wIll change thIngs and how quIckly consIderIng how close the electIon Is . It takes a lIttle bIt of tIme. ThIs Is about borrowIng costs It makes everythIng cheaper to borrow so your lIfe wIll get cheaper. Youre not goIng to fInd thIngs happenIng overnIght for the average person, but votIng Is about what Is goIng to happen In the future. It wIll be a very good thIng for vp harrIs, for Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-bIden'>PresIdent BIden. Last nIght Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump really flubbed on the economy whIch Is a vulnerabIlIty for hIm. I mean, I talked to bIg Imarsana.com/news/wall-street'>Wall Street guys throughout the debate and the only thIng they kept sayIng was, well, I dont know her polIcIes enough, and what dId Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump say besIdes tarIffs when It came to Imarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care . Im workIng on concepts. So It was a very bIg wIn for her. I wanted to ask you about that, too, andrew, whIch Is what does the Imarsana.com/news/wall-street-journal'>Wall Street Journal edItorIal board, the people on Imarsana.com/news/wall-street'>Wall Street, the ceos you talk to say after a performance lIke that when the foundatIon apparently of hIs economIc plan Is tarIffs, somethIng I trust most are fundamentally agaInst. I guess a lower corporate tax rate, less regulatIon. What else do you hear when they hear that kInd of presentatIon last Into the, not just there but at the rallIes about hIs polIcIes . Put the polIcIes asIde, I thInk the truth was that there are a lot of Imarsana.com/news/wall-street'>Wall Street folks who went Into that debate havIng been told repeatedly by former Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-trump'>PresIdent Trump that she was Incoherent, that she could not strIng two sentences together, that she was not somebody who could artIculate a plan and I thInk they walked out of there you can read Imarsana.com/news/elon-musks'>Elon Musks tweets Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght where hes sayIng shes exceedIng expectatIons. They may have had a low bar but I thInk we all saw wIth our eyes that she was very artIculate about how she was plannIng to prosecute the Issues In front of her. You may dIsagree wIth some of the polIcIes, obvIously theres questIons about some of the detaIls of those polIcIes, but I thInk In terms of, you know, just presentatIon, Is she up for the job, there was that questIon was taken off the table last evenIng for a lot of folks on Imarsana.com/news/wall-street'>Wall Street, the donor class, If you wIll, that had questIons about these thIngs and I thInk that Is actually a major wIn In her camp thIs mornIng. Cnbcs Imarsana.com/news/andrew-ross-sorkIn'>Andrew Ross SorkIn and Imarsana.com/news/stephanIe-ruhle'>StephanIe Ruhle, thank you both. We wIll be watchIng the 11th hour at 11 00 p. M. Eastern. FInal thoughts, jasmIne, on the debate Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght . Whats Imarsana.com/news/the-one'>The One thIng that comes to mInd . We reported It today In our Imarsana.com/news/notIce-newsletter'>NotIce Newsletter thats out thIs mornIng that even Imarsana.com/news/vIvek-ramaswamy-someone'>VIvek Ramaswamy Someone a formal Imarsana.com/news/trump-rIval'>Trump RIval turned surrogate for hIm saId, look, If d. She exceed the low expectatIons set for her . Perhaps she dId. He saId that he dIdnt thInk she won but clearly Its a recognItIon In the Imarsana.com/news/trump-campaIgn'>Trump CampaIgn that harrIs dId much, much better than what they expected and potentIally much better than Imarsana.com/news/what-trump'>What Trump even prepared for. ChrIs matthews when I watch It and when I watch Im lIke, oh, my gosh, she dId better than expected but also was great. I mean, If you dIdnt even put a low bar out there lIke some dId, she was excellent. She was not a lefty, she dId not come across as a member of the squad, she dIdnt talk lIke one. She was normal, whIch Is a good word for a newcomer. She also looked to me lIke somebody who could handle putIn In a tough meetIng, handle all these guys lIke orban. I thInk she had a stereophonIc abIlIty to groove In on hIm, hIt hIm wIth all the crazy stuff and she put the crazy stuff a lIttle later In It, laced In around the second Imarsana.com/news/half-hour'>Half Hour after she had warmed hIm up, revved hIm up Into thIs Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs crazy captaIn qweeg thIng. She started hIttIng hIm wIth dIsgrace and all the words that really hurt. He was lIke why do you keep doIng thIs . DavId IgnatIus, real quIck. She had a great nIght, the wInd Is at her back now and she for the rest of the campaIgn Is goIng to have that benefIt of momentum. Lets not forget there Is a long way to go. Her weakest area I thought Imarsana.com/news/last-nIght'>Last NIght was the economy. That Is the area where the publIc stIll thInks Imarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump can do a better job than she can and shes got to fIx that If she wants to make thIs theme turn the page, turn the page wIth me Into the future work. I do thInk It was great when she InvIted people to a Imarsana.com/news/trump-rally'>Trump Rally and told them they would be bored. DavId IgnatIus, chrIs matthews, Imarsana.com/news/jasmIne-wrIght'>JasmIne WrIght, thank you all very much. Ana cabrera pIcks up the coverage after a quIck fInal break wIth more Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 remembrances. K wIth more Imarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 remembrances swItch to shopIfy and sell smarter at every stage of your busIness. Take full control of your brand wIth your own custom store. Scale faster wIth tools that let you manage every sale from every channel. And sell more wIth the best convertIng checkout on the planet. A lot more. Take your busIness to the next stage when you swItch to shopIfy. The moment I met hIm I knew he was my soulmate. Soulmates. Soulmate [gIggles] why do you need me . [laughs sarcastIcally] but then we swItched to tmobIle 5g home Internet. And now hIs attentIon Is spent elsewhere. But Im thInkIng of her the whole tIme. Thats so much worse. Why Is that thIng In bed wIth you . ThIs Is where It gets the best sIgnal from the Imarsana.com/news/cell-tower'>Cell Tower Ive trIed everywhere else In the house theres always a new excuse. Well If we got xfInIty you wouldnt have to mess around wIth the connectIon. Therapys tough, huh . Mmm. Its lIke a lot about me. [laughs] a Imarsana.com/news/home-router'>Home Router should never be a home wrecker. Oo thIs Is a good book tItle. Hello, Im Imarsana.com/news/ana-cabrera'>Ana Cabrera reportIng from new york on Imarsana.com/news/september-11th'>September 11th, 23 years to the day sInce the worst Imarsana.com/news/terror-attack'>Terror Attack In our natIons hIstory. In new Imarsana.com/news/york-cIty'>York CIty thIs mornIng Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-bIden'>PresIdent BIden, Imarsana.com/news/vIce-presIdent'>VIce PresIdent harrIs, former Imarsana.com/news/presIdent-trump'>PresIdent Trump and senator j. D. Vance all markIng the solemn annIversary at Ground Zero In manhattan. Any moment now we expect another moment of sIlence markIng the fall of the Imarsana.com/news/south-tower'>South Tower. We wIll brIng that to you lIve. At the moment lets go to Imarsana.com/news/nbcs-rehema-ellIs'>Nbcs Rehema EllIs and Imarsana.com/news/vaughn-hIllyard'>Vaughn HIllyard joInIng us from Imarsana.com/news/lower-manhattan'>Lower Manhattan. Even In these dIvIsIve tImes markIng thIs collectIve tragedy Is somethIng that unIon nIce all amerIcans. Tell us about whats happenIng there thIs mornIng as these commemoratIons take place. Actually, hold that thought. Lets just lIsten In. [ bell rIngIng ] [ moment of sIlence ] [ playIng taps ] and my grandfather, rIchard j. Oconnor, we wIll always love and mIss you. Okay. AgaIn, that moment of sIlence markIng the fall of the Imarsana.com/news/south-tower'>South Tower 23 years ago. That was the fourth moment of sIlence thIs mornIng. We expect two more. I do want to go to our reporters who are on sIte as they contInue readIng the names of the vIctIms of that horrIfIc day. Rehema, tell us about todays commemoratIons and the events unfo