that is a that doesn't for may for today. the good news is jana will be back with you this next sunday. stay where you are because there is more news coming up on msnbc. get ready, only four days to go before the big debate. this hour, whether past -- two surprising moves made by the biden campaigned and the risk and reward, how the damage and drama could last for months. and the trump vice president steaks, how maga his pick might be. good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters. we begin with decision 2024. with just four days to go before the first presidential debate, each side is calibrating expectations. >> as you know it has been reported that krycka joe has gone to a log cabin to study, repair, they want to get him good and strong. they want to strengthen him up so he comes out, he will come out, okay, i say he will come out all jacked up. >> who knows what donald trump will do at any minute or any time. i will bet he will talk over the microphone like he does -- joe biden will stand up to him. >> a new memo from the biden/harris campaign is framing the debate as two distinct visions for the future and highlighting more than 300 debate watch parties in battleground states. surrogates on both sides presenting the contrast. >> as folks look at who is better positioned to keep us safe going forward i hope people will not overlook that former president trump incited a ride january 6 -- were assaulted and he is a convicted felon. >> the average american point of view, what biden did was a disaster he took a can of gasoline and put it on fire. he unilaterally gave 5000 people legal status calling it parole in place. he is the most lawless president ever on immigration. trump says he knows who his vice presidential pick will be. nbc news is reporting it is down to the north dakota governor, via senator jd vance and florida senator marco rubio with rubio perhaps being third on the list. we have several reporters covering the filaments with both candidates and we will begin in philadelphia. >> reporter : both campaigns are preparing for the debate thursday in starkly different ways. president joe biden hunkered down at camp david while former president trump is on the campaign trail rallying in philadelphia last night, paying a visit to a local restaurant and speaking to an evangelical christian conference in washington dc. estimate i'd purchase, former president trump campaigning in philadelphia. and on the stump -- >> nobody will be watching the debate thursday night, will anybody be watching? >> reporter : sources tell us campaigning is his debate prep along with informal policy sessions with advisors and members of congress focusing on inflation and immigration. while president joe biden is hunkered down at camp david by intensive prep sessions that will include mock debates, playing the part of mr. trump's former white house counsel bob bauer who took on the same row in 2020. the president looking to focus the debate on abortion rights and what his campaign says is trump's record of undermining democracy. trump is saying his yet to be named running mate will be at the debate and that he has made his choice but has not told anybody what it will be. sources tell nbc news the focus has been on three top contenders. each with a history of being critical of tropical florida senator marco rubio ran against trump in 2016. >> what we are dealing with is a con artist. he is a con artist. >> before entering politics, ohio senator jd vance adamantly opposed tropical and north dakota governor -- briefly ran against trump for this year's nomination. >> would you ever do business with former president donald trump? >> i do not think so. >> why? >> i just think that is is -- it is important you are judged by the company you keep. >> reporter : all three vp contenders are loyal allies of the former president. sources say the campaign wants a candidate who will not overshadow mr. trump but also someone who could be the future of the republican party. the campaign is weighing whether to announce his vp pick before or after his sentencing for his conviction in new york scheduled for july 11, just days before the republican national convention., thank you for that. let's go to the white house with the latest on the debate preparations. what hearing from the campaign? >> reporter : just four days remain until president joe biden and former president trump face off on the debate stage for the first time in four years. you heard -- a little bit about the debate preparations at camp david. he is leaning on the expertise and experience of some of his closest allies, his campaign staffers to study his policy material and try to go over the contrast between his and his predecessor's records. he is also honing responses to what we expect to be inevitable, possible personal jabs from president joe biden -- on former president trump on president joe biden on his age and mental fitness which we just saw in the last few hours as a former president marked the president suggesting he would use supplements to improve his debate performance. we know the biden team is preparing some sharp lines. we heard from the biden campaigned cochair of meet the press this morning and he signaled to our own peter alexander the president would seize on the former president's felony conviction in his new york hush money trial. >> it does not matter how former president donald trump shows up if he comes in unhinged like he is most of the time or sits there and is quiet. people will know he is a twice a peach, convicted felon who has been found to have defamed somebody, sexually abused somebody and got bankrupt six times. they will always know that and that is something the american people have to think about about the wisdom, the character and judgment of the person they will appointed to lead america at home and to the rest of the world. >> reporter : the biden team says they see this as an opportunity to get the voters who have not been tuned into the election so far more engaged before november. they released a memo this morning saying they are planning to host more than 1000 events across the country and released new digital advertisements in the lead up to the debate. >> thank you for that. let's bring in a scene or spokesperson for the biden/harris 2024 campaign. good to see you. we know president joe biden is actively getting ready for the debate but can you give us specifics on the prep and his strategy? >> it is great to be with you. i can tell you president joe biden is taking his debate preparation seriously because he knows this is the first time the american people will see him and former president donald trump on stage having a real conversation about their very different visions for america. president joe biden wants to see americans drive. he wants to continue to lower costs for the american people and make sure everybody in america has a fair shot. where is former president donald trump wants to get back in office so he can seek medical revenge on his enemies, he wants to give corporate tax cuts at the expense of middle- class families. he is a dark vision, he wants to lead he said he made it clear he wants to be a dictator on day one. division these two have cannot be more different and the contrast could not be more clear. and president joe biden nose, again they have not been on stage together in four years, this is an important moment in the campaign and he wants to make sure the american people truly understand the fundamental choice in front of them going into election day. >> you heard this mentioned, with the biden campaigned releasing the new memo detailing initiatives for before, during and after the debate. can you walk us through those plans and why is the debate the launching point? you just made a very observant comment, four and half months until the election. does the american public have the stamina to be really hyped up and engaged for four and half months? >> yes, i think they do because they understand what is at stake. this is about the future of their lives and the lives of their children and their own personal freedoms and the future of women to make their own reproductive decisions about their bodies. donald trump has done so much damage to this entry. most noticeably, putting three extremely conservative justices on the supreme court during his time as president but have ripped away the freedom of americans on a number of issues. again, joe biden wants to make it clear to the american people what the choice is. without it was important we have a debate in june. the reason why, it is a little out of the ordinary compared to past election cycles but voters are starting to tune in and we want to make sure that the republican convention is coming up next month, we wanted to make sure the american people had a chance to see a conversation between the two people, one of whom be the next president of the united states and understand what is at stake. >> the biden campaign has been sending a clear message, donald trump is worse than ever. take a listen. >> we have seen, since he lost the 2020 election and snaps, he has become even more unhinged and extreme. >> people who know former president donald trump the best like him lease. that is worth taking a moment on thinking about if this guy will be better next time on being bad. >> we had earlier, stamped, not the first time someone in the biden camp has used that phrase. does the campaign see this as an attack line or a statement of facts? i think it is a little bit of both. first and foremost it is a statement of fact. when former president donald trump lost the election to president joe biden in 2020, something happened. he snapped, he became even more unhinged than before and has become more erratic and more unhinged. he has literally told us in his own words that he will be a dictator on day one. think about that our entry was built on democracy. one of the reasons why we are so proud to be americans. have so many personal freedoms in this country. former president donald trump is to take those freedoms away and be a dictator on day one. he has also made it clear if he does not win this election, there will be a bloodbath. some of his aides have tried to say we are overstating that. no, he has said that in his own words. you will hear us making the contrast point more and more but it is also a statement of fact. something the american people need to think about what they are deciding who to vote for. >> meet the press, they were signaling president joe biden will bring up donald trump's conviction during the debate. is that the case and what could be the framing and how hard my t hit that issue? >> i do not want to get in front of president joe biden and what he will say in the debate but i will say that we are in the campaign and president joe biden has made the point that the difference between former president donald trump today and a couple of weeks ago is that former president donald trump is a convicted felon. that is a fact. 34 felonies, a convicted felon running for president of the united states. i think you will continue to hear another point, one of the reasons why former president donald trump wants to get back in office is because he wanted to try to seek immunity. he does not want to have to go to jail for the crimes he has omitted. he does not want to get back in office because he wants to help the american people he wants to get back in office so he can protect himself from serving jail time and also he wants to make sure he can use the office of the white house to seek political revenge and retribution on his enemies. contrast that with joe biden, he wants to continue to lower prices for american families. he wants to continue the work he has done to implement historic climate change legislation, to expand the affordable care act and lower healthcare costs for more families in this country. to make sure he can do everything he can to allow women to make choices about their own productive health. that is what joe biden is all about. former president donald trump simply wants to get back in there to seek revenge. the contrast could not be more clear and you will hear more and more about this in the direct words from joe biden thursday night. >> what about the biden campaign which won the debate going toss. the president chose to take the podium on the right but that will give trump the last word in closing statements. why does the campaign see the podium position at and -- an advantage? >> i think it is less about the podium position again more about what you will hear joe biden say thursday night. what he will deliver for the american people. you will see the fact he is fighting for american families where is donald trump is fighting for himself and to seek political revenge on his enemies. i know you keep saying that but i cannot say it enough. when you step back and think about it, that is a significant contrast. this is not a president with a plan or a vision. this is not donald trump with a plan or vision, this is someone who wants to get back in the white house just to get back at people who have done him wrong. talking about some of the events coming up. i think it is important to note there are a number of people who worked for donald trump when he was in the white house who are now actively coming out against him saying no way can we let him get back in the white house. and i think it is important to bear in mind that if he does get back in the white house which he would, but, if he does, he wants to choose a cabinet farmer extreme. he wants to surround himself with the extremists who will do great harm to the american people. who will only try to make themselves more powerful and use the office to do that at the expense of american families. these are the contrast points you will hear joe biden make thursday night. a great discussion from him. he is taking debate prep seriously. he knows this is the first time the two of them will be on stage having a real conversation about their starkly different visions for the american people. >> let me just highlight again the fact that you have formal trump administration officials to your point who are coming out against former president donald trump saying he cannot be allowed back in the white house. that is a rather stunning thing we have seen perpetuated this year. thank you so much, good to see you. friday morning headlines, what they will say after the debate. first, beating the dangerous heat. how folks are getting creative keeping animals and people safe. safe. head & shoulders bare clinically proven dandruff protection with just 9 essential ingredients no sulfates, no silicones, no dyes. dandruff protection, minimal ingredients. job done. an alternative to pills, voltaren is a clinically proven arthritis pain relief gel, which penetrates deep to target the source of pain with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medicine directly at the source. voltaren, the joy of movement. dangerous ladders. gutter muck. yuck. no wonder you hate cleaning your gutters. good thing there's leaffilter. our patented filter technology keeps leaves and debris out of your gutters forever. guaranteed. call 833- leaffilter to get started. and get the permanent gutter solution that ends clogs for good. they took the time to answer all of our questions. they really put us at ease. end clogged gutters for good. call 833.leaf.filter, or visit leaffilter.com today. breaking news on the brutal heat wave. sweltering temperatures are scorching much of the u.s. for the sixth straight day with 95 million people under heat advisors. cities from the midwest to new england hitting double-digit temperatures as heat related emergency room visits spike. the governor of iowa declaring a disaster in 21 counties. joining me now from washington dc where it is currently a steamy 95 degrees is my short sleeve friend garrett. is there any relief in sight? 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is the debate over, under or hyped just the right amount? >> i think it is hyped just the right amount. the special thing about this debate is ultimately, it is a capitulation to the idea that donald trump has removed american alex from any of the norms each of us build careers in and the american system is built upon. that makes typically happen in university setting with an audience and there also is a vice presidential debate which it does not like -- seem like we will be having this year at all. this debate is a strange animal all of the door because former president donald trump has represented something that has removed american politics from something any of us knew and understood. i also do not think it will be a controlled environment the democratic advisors are looking for is there is no way to control donald trump. there is no rising to the occasion for the magnitude of the situation. he exists to throw bombs into everything and there's no reason to think the debate will be any different. i do not know if it has been hyped good, bad or the right amount but i know it is an interesting animal that will give joe biden the opportunity to present his case but there is no reason to believe former president donald trump will respect that. >> what about you susan, the needle has not moved so much in the race to think the debate makes a difference? what impact for voters sing the two candidates going at it again. >> while i do not think the debate will make a huge difference in the polls, unless something really big happens, some big moment, putting that aside, it probably will not make it big difference in the polls. to the point on former president donald trump, let's not forget he does not play by the rules. while he made a interrupt joe biden, he may pick a fight with the moderator. those are the types of things he likes to do. i think he will look for more airtime by fighting with the debate moderator. at the end of the day, i think it is what the campaigns do after the debate. how they get out there, who is spinning for them. i think the debate watch parties and social media campaign that the biden folks use is great. especially when you compare it to, you know it will be a fundraising call from donald trump immediately after. >> for sure. what issue can biden most correct the record on during the debate? economy, immigration? >> look, i think short of a medical episode by either candidate, the debate will not change the race it will offer it. in affirming it i think you will hear joe biden talk about the economy in a real way. what he should be trying to get home, i do not think the nation has had this conversation yet, yes inflation is bad yes joe biden is working on it but it we are discovering is inflation is not the number 1 economic metric and forming voters or at least it should not be. the stock market is at an all- time high, more people go to work tomorrow than ever before in american history. the opportunities to access healthcare and education are at historic highs. the economy is going well. you drive down the street and see new construction and businesses hiring and new businesses opening. the american people know that and are starting to feel that but they are dogged by a two year conversation about inflation. this time i want to get back to what you were saying about trump's tenor. the candidate's microphones will be turned off when it is not their turn to speak as an effort to avoid moments like this one in 2020. >> votenow, make sure you in fact, let people know your senators, i will not answer the question -- >> why would you answer that question? >> you have a lot of people -- radical left. >> will you shut up, man. >> who is on your list? >> this is so unprecedented. >> gentleman -- >> i have to say i smile every single time i hear that and joe biden goes will you shut up, this is so unpresidential. my point is could this with a muted microphones, could it help former president donald trump in any way? >> no. i do not know how it helps former president donald trump, i do not know, there is no controlling donald trump. if you pick up the snake, the snake will bite. if you put these candidates in this environment with all of the rules that biden's close circle of advisors have concocted. let's be clear, this debate was taken out of the realm of the control of the united states commission on presidential debates. that is what has created an entire universe on how we govern ourselves and behave around debates. from choosing a moderator to choosing candidate behavior and audience behavior. that is formulated and created over the course of 38 years by the u.s. commission on presidential debates. my gripe with the situation and the one that will follow his there is no infrastructural fidelity all participants have to agree to and stick with it. not only is the never any controlling donald trump but now we have removed governmental nonpartisan body who was responsible for creating these debates. there is no universe in which we can protect how candidates will behave or how this will come off now that is has been removed from any type of infrastructural underpinnings. we cannot control donald trump, i do not know what effect the microphones will have but i do know this is completely unwarranted territory removed from the entity that is done for the last two generations. >> susan, you wrote about the way biden should answer questions about his age, trump is only three years younger but biden gets the bulk of the scrutiny. you said given the choice i would rather have someone who shovels a bit been a man who is clearly unhinged and cannot hold a train of thought. what is your best advice to biden on this issue? does he just simply say you are only three years younger than i am, you are 78. >> or, he does it with a little bit of humor like he did with saying for former president donald trump's birthday from one old man to another. there could be a line they come up with. the most important thing joe biden can do and what i wanted to target in on, in the clip you just show, joe biden was very disciplined in trying to stay focused on talking to the camera and moderator if you notice. it was when former president donald trump just kept going and going. biden will be able to hear trump go on and on but no one else will. the key is for biden to stay focused and know that everything is going to be more or less, a right and left image if you will of the two men and he has to keep that in mind he has to work the camera. >> i want to get both of your don and david to talk about the washington post which spoke to many of what they're calling the double haters who do not like trump or biden saying they could help determine the outcome in the swing states. 53% of these double haters plan to vote for kennedy while 95% for biden and 18% for trump. the majority of these voters lean democratic to begin with. how concerning is that for the president? >> short of me being able to find these people at their gatherings and grab them and shake since into the. what i would suggest to the double haters, ultimately, they are logically flawed because they present a certain intellectual parity when they talk about who sucks worse are the worst of two evils. you are describing a certain amount of intellectual parity to both candidates which is not there. primarily because the biden administration, not even if you are a democrat but objectively has done a good job, guided the country through covid-19, past the inflation reduction act, if the structure funding going to the states for meaningful projects. student loan debt has been reduced, the consumer financial protection bureau is taking $1 million excuse me 100 million americans to a different credit posture based upon medical debt being categorized differently. it has been successful and has put up meritorious points and no -- in a way the trump administration has not. double haters that presents -- an executive observation of fact is not really warrant, merit or desire. there is no real intellectual underpinnings to that other than the notion we continue to not have the luxury natalie is black folks but as progressives being single issue voters. >> david, is it important to remind those who want to cast their vote for rfk junior that it will not get you a president elected? >> it is, it is important to do that and the extent that the rfk voters said disproportionally high in the double hater color. a double hater cannot be gotten or if the candidate is too expensive for either campaign because they will make up their mind on the last day. a true double hater you cannot get. but i think adjacent to that group are truly thoughtful voters that are deciding right direction or wrong direction and have questions about the leadership of joe biden and if former president donald trump would do things differently. those are the voters that that biden camp can get because they have such a good story to tell. right direction, wrong direction voter sometimes i think it is confused with the double hater a different photo. >> what about the vice president steaks, trump said he knows in his mind what his vp will be, that person will most likely be at the debate. north dakota governor, the ohio senator, marco rubio is also in there. who do you have your money on? spend my money has been on rubio for a while which is why i think he will pick bergen. jd vance should be tossed out he is unqualified. if it is truly between bergemann and rubio, the nation should breathe a sigh of relief that is not carry lake or marjorie taylor green that is not -- marco rubio is qualified whatever you think of his ideology. i think he might choose bergemann because he is such a boring leader he would never take the stage from trump and they get one this race all the way through november with the nation saying who is the vp? that might be exactly what donald trump wants. >> susan, what are the friday morning headlines? >> biden exceeds expectations. >> good one. don? >> biden wins. >> okay, that is good. it is so positive, do not blow it, david. what do you think? >> chaos but i think biden over performs because he always does, the take away is chaos. >> okay, it will be something to watch for sure thursday night. i look forward to break it down with you next weekend. what does it look like when the presidential pain spills on the sunday talk shows? you will see, next. next. and we both sleep better. and stay married. why would i use kayak to compare hundreds of travel and wsites at once?etter. i like to do things myself. i can't trust anything else to do the job right. kayak... aaaaaaaahhhh kayak. search one and done. you know what's brilliant? boring. think about it. boring is the unsung catalyst for bold. what straps bold to a rocket and hurtles it into space? boring does. boring makes vacations happen, early retirements possible, and startups start up. because it's smart, dependable, and steady. all words you want from your bank. for nearly 160 years, pnc bank has been brilliantly boring so you can be happily fulfilled... which is pretty un-boring if you think about it. lawmakers are trying to shut down planned parenthood. the health care of more than 2 million people is at stake. our right to basic reproductive health care is being stolen from us. planned parenthood believes everyone deserves health care. it's a human right. future generations are beginning to lose the rights we fought for. the rights for ourselves, our kids, and our grandkids. gone. just like that. i can't believe this is the world we live in, where we're losing the freedom to control our own bodies. last year, politicians in 47 states introduced bills that would block people from getting the sexual and reproductive care they need. where does it end? 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>> reporter : lawmakers, allies and surrogates of the former and current presidents not only on the airwaves but also hitting the campaign trail. yesterday i ran into michael wiley, the chair of the rnc, he was at a faith and freedom coalition event, a gathering of christian conservatives. we spoke a lot about this yesterday previewing the former president's debate prep, his message thursday as he faces president joe biden and they are preparing in different ways. trump hitting the campaign trail all weekend. first at that event i just mentioned him at a rally in philadelphia. biden preparing behind closed doors different styles and how they are preparing to go into thursday. take a listen to some of their surrogates and the message they had to review, senator chris coming live on the sunday shows from the campaign hq the biden campaign and michael wiley, the rnc chair i spoke to yesterday. >> the president is having conversations, he is preparing he's getting very serious. the key thing we want to come out of the debate is we want a real discussion about his view of the next four years. >> i hope folks will not overlook former president trump incited a riot at the capitol january 6 were law enforcement officers to protect all of us in the capitol every day were assaulted and he is a convicted felon. i think that stands in sharp contrast to president joe biden's defense of the rule of law. >> senator -- respect the rule of law previewing what president joe biden will focus on when he hits the debate stage talking about january 6, talking about trump's first term making sure voters remember what happened during the 2020 election in january 6 and the fact trump is an indicted former president. trump yesterday on stage saying he will talk about the border and immigration and previewing some of the themes, culture war issues, especially issues that rile up his base. certainly he will try to sway the minds of independent voters on issues like abortion which we heard trump taylor his message and biden sure to hit the trump team on. -- for his placements of three conservative supreme court justices who led to that decision ultimately. the late tom petty once said the waiting is the hardest part and he was right, the timeline this weekend donald trump's legal life next. next. it really works. my mental health was better. but uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia, started disrupting my day. td felt embarrassing. i felt like disconnecting. i asked my doctor about treating my td, and learned about ingrezza. ♪ ingrezza ♪ ingrezza is clinically proven for reducing td. most people saw results in just two weeks. people taking ingrezza can stay on most mental health meds. only number-one prescribed ingrezza has simple dosing for td: always one pill, once daily. ingrezza can cause depression, suicidal thoughts, or actions in patients with huntington's disease. pay close attention to and call your doctor if you become depressed, have sudden changes in mood, behaviors, feelings, or have thoughts of suicide. don't take ingrezza if you're allergic to its ingredients. ingrezza may cause serious side effects, including angioedema, potential heart rhythm problems, and abnormal movements. report fevers, stiff muscles, or problems thinking as these may be life threatening. sleepiness is the most common side effect. take control by asking your doctor about ingrezza. ♪ ingrezza ♪ have you ever considered getting a walk-in tub? 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>> what i expect her to do and what she should do maybe two different things. for the hearing tomorrow on the gag order, jack smith's files that motion a month ago. what he said was you have to stop former president donald trump from lying about law enforcement and saying they are out to kill him and his family. why, because former president donald trump knows those statements are lies but jack smith said this is putting law enforcement lives in danger. he said imminent threat. hour the judge, a month has gone by she has sat on her hands and not done anything, just last week, there was a person who called up an fbi agent on hunter biden's case and said, if former president donald trump wins, we are going to hunt agents down, we will slaughter your entire family. these kinds of threats, former president donald trump, when he makes these statements, he is inflaming his base. that is the purpose and by not taking immediate action to make sure he cannot do that, she is allowing this kind of inflammation of the space to continue. what she should do tomorrow is stop playing games. she needs to focus on the issue, she does not need more briefing, it is a straightforward issue. she needs to issue a narrow gag order that says you cannot put enforcement lives in danger. this should not be controversial should not be taking a lot of time. a lot of these other motions she is dealing with a completely frivolous. there is no need for a hearing on them. there is no need for a hearing on whether jack smith was able to be appointed by merrick garland. it did not need to be a hearing it should've been an order. this issue about the lives of law enforcement, that is something she should have dealt with right away and she should be taking it seriously. >> point well taken. one of the surprising thing she did friday was to press prosecutors on the extent of the attorney general's oversight of the trump investigations. then, she criticized the lawyer who said it was against the it a policy to get into specifics. how do you interpret that, considering she is also a former federal prosecutor? you would think she would be familiar with doj policy. >> she should be and she should know what the regulations say. which is, merrick garland, while he does not have day-to- day supervision into jack smith's investigation because he is special counsel. merrick garland is allowed, when there are significant investigative steps, things like eating a search warrant or an indictment those are things that need to be reported to the ag by the special counsel and if they are well outside the bounds and rules of the department of justice, they are things that the ag would have the right to overrule. that is why the special counsel under the appointments clause is an inferior officer to the attorney general. that is why this appointment of jack smith is completely constitutional. hurt getting into the nitty- gritty of what merrick garland did or did not do, she does not need to do that to be able to rule on the motion. she knows what the regulations say. >> let me ask you before i let you go with regard to the supreme court which will deliver more rulings starting wednesday, is the trump immunity ruling coming this week? is it the day before the debate, day of, they after? could it be punted into next week? >> i suspect that and again who knows but, my suspicion is we will not get that ruling before the presidential debate. i do not think the supreme court wants this decision to be a talking point for the debate. i think they will want to wait until after and i think they want to issue it as close to the end of their term as possible. to go into either friday or next week. that way they can drop the opinion and get out of town. i think it will be a highly controversial opinion. i do not think they will say trump is completely immune but i do not think they will say the dc circuit is right. if they were going to say that, they would not have taken this long. you can see immunity for official actions but some of these are personal and they will send it back to the district court which will be highly controversial. they will not want to do about before the debate. >> as you say, drop it in bold. thank you so much. good to see you. you will not believe one of -- what happens when a chicago's most iconic landmarks. and later we are learning about how president joe biden might mention trump's 34 felony convictions of the big debate this week. this week. that's a problem. stay fresh out there with all—new wraps from subway. if you have chronic kidney disease you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with farxiga. because there are places you'd like to be. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ she runs and plays like a puppy again. his #2s are perfect! he's a brand new dog, all in less than a year. when people switch their dog's food from kibble to the farmer's dog, they often say that it feels like magic. but there's no magic involved. 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