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can follow logic, but i was listening to the soundbite from donald trump about the shark and electrocution. i tried to follow it and i could not make sense. >> you cannot follow it because it makes no sense, none of it makes any sense, but that is the point, isn't it? the more you speak in senseless nonsense the more people expect senseless nonsense from you and that lowers the bar to the ground. >> and everyone ignores it and moves on and i think that is the scary thing that this guy could one day be president again, making no sense, but as you said, here we are. alex, great to see you, my friend. enjoy the rest of your evening off. >> have a great evening, my friend. >> thank you so much. today's decision will have deadly consequences. that is what justice sotomayor said about the ruling from her conservative colleagues rejecting a trump european on bump stocks. the conservative justices have single-handedly overturned one of the few measures to help stem gun violence in this country and there are not that many. donald trump's administration actually banned bump stocks after a gunman used them to open fire at a country music festival in las vegas in 2017, killing 60 people and injuring 500 more in the single deadliest mass shooting in this country's history. the trump era policy made it illegal to possess bump stocks using the same federal laws that prohibit machine guns. but clarence thomas after news of more luxury trips from his billionaire benefactor, somehow twisted logic in his interpretation that a firearm equipped with a bump stock which allows a semi automatic rifle to fire with the speed of a fully automatic weapon, does not meet the definition of a machine gun under federal law. this is what he wrote. we hold that a semi automatic rifle equipped with a bump stock is not a machine gun, because it cannot fire more than one shot by a single function of the trigger. now i want to take a minute here to remind everyone what the deadliest massacre in american history sounded like. >> what is it? >> that is what a semi automatic rifle made more deadly as a weapon by bump stocks sounds like. you don't have to be a weapons expert to figure that out, but clarence thomas and other extremists on the court don't think that qualifies as a machine gun. justice sonia sotomayor are issued a dripping dissent, writing in part today the court puts bump stocks back in civilian hands. to do so it casts aside congresses definition of machine gun. when i see a bird that walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, i call that bird a duck. a bump stock equipped semi automatic rifle fires automatically more than one shot without manual reloading by a single function of the trigger. because i, like congress, call that a machine gun, i respectfully dissent. donald trump's campaign issued a statement reminding voters that he supports the second amendment and is endorsed by the nra. court, the court has spoken and their decision should be respected. that doesn't sound like a guy who is very upset with how the supreme court ruled. instead the biden harris campaign blamed trumps justices in a statement that makes clear they no longer see the conservative majority on the supreme court as anything other than an arm of donald trump's republican party and his maga agenda. weapons of war have no place on the streets of america, but trumps justices have decided the gun lobby is more important than the safety of our kids and communities. donald trump through his words, his actions and his supreme court nominees, makes it clear every day that he doesn't care if the american people live or die at the hands of weapons of war on our streets. trump only cares about the safety, security and freedom of one person, donald trump. it is telling who called on congress to ban bump stocks after the court ruling today. president biden, vice president harris and democratic leaders did. you know who did not? donald trump and neither did republican sycophants who rallied around him during his return, his first return i should note, to capitol hill since he incited a insurrection on january 6. justices are helping donald trump avoid accountability for january 6 by delaying the decision on his claim that he has absolute immunity from prosecution for his efforts to steal the 2020 election. our first guest tonight, democratic congressman jamie raskin who reminded voters that the supreme court is also on the ballot, by posting this. justice alito turned the flag upside down. donald trump turned the bible upside down. maga turned the capital upside down. the roberts court turned the constitution upside down. let's set america right side up in november. joining me now is democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland. he is a controversial -- congressional impeachment manager. congressman, it is great to see you as always. your assessment of the trump justices opinion this morning. >> well, it was outrageous, of course. it was not just justice sotomayor who said that this bird quacks like a duck and walked like a duck. it was the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms, so it was the governing agency which said that a semi automatic weapon equipped with a bump stock operates exactly like a machine gun and should be treated that way. of course it was in the wake of the las vegas massacre where 58 people were destroyed and more than 500 wounded, fundamentally altering the lives of hundreds of people and snuffing out the lives of 58 of them. and trump at that point pretended at least to support that action as a substitute for universal violent criminal background check and for a complete ban on military style assault weapons. now they get the justices he brags about on the court to overturn roe v. wade and they also strike this down. they are not going to do anything about it. so the flag of america they fly upside down. the flag at the nra they fly right side up and they fly at very high, way above the rule of law, way above the constitution and public safety of the people. >> one of the important things in today's ruling, congressman, is the terminology. in her dissent justice sotomayor points out that every member of the majority has previously emphasized that the best way to respect congressional intent is to adhere to the ordinary understanding of the terms congress uses and today the majority forgets that principal and actually substitutes its own view of what constitutes a machine gun. she cites each justice and it seems like the supreme court here is trying to get off on a technicality of what the definition of a machine gun is, when congress made clear what it is. does it seem like these justices are making arbitrary decisions based on whether they like the law or not? >> the majority was splitting hairs in the interest of the nra and it was to say that whereas a machine gun operates with one flick of the trigger, when you equip the semi automatic with a bump stock, you have to maintain some backward pressure on the trigger. of course the atf and justices dissenting and any common sense interpretation would tell you that that gun is operating functionally just like a machine gun and destroys life with the efficacy and as you pointed out in the very beginning. that is why we have the rule against machine guns. now my right wing maga colleagues don't agree with that. they don't think there should be a rule against machine guns or tanks or any weapons. they think all of those are arms under the second amendment and their argument is the second amendment gives you the right to overthrow the government, despite the fact there are half a dozen different provisions in the constitution specifically for opposing insurrection, including the 14th amendment, which says if you have ever sworn an oath to support the constitution and you violated by engaging in insurrection or rebellion, you should never be allowed told federal or state office again. that is one of many. you can look at article 1 section 8 which says congress has the authority to call forth the militias of the states in order to suppress insurrections and yet the argument that you hear from matt gaetz and jim jordan and marjorie taylor greene, all of them, is that the second amendment is about giving the people the right to engage in a violent insurrection or rebellion against our government. >> and of course the other big news this week is the news we didn't hear. no immunity decision today. the supreme court once again delaying trump being held accountable for january 6. it seems like we are not going to find out, obviously, that decision, perhaps maybe in the next couple of weeks, but certainly not this week. aren't voters entitled to a trial before the selection? >> well, we are not constitutionally entitled to a trial before the election, but the trial itself should have gone on unimpeded without the supreme court intervention on the most ludicrous proposition trump has advanced, which is that a former president of the united states is immune to all criminal prosecution because he is a former president and that is specifically debunked by the constitution itself, which says if you are impeached and convicted, even in that case you can still be criminally prosecuted. everybody has assumed and advanced the idea that of course you can be prosecuted. when i took the house impeachment over to the senate in the second impeachment of donald trump, even trump's lawyers were saying you don't need to impeach them, you don't need to convict him, because he can be properly prosecuted like any other citizen can be. that was the essence of their argument in the second impeachment trial. now they want to take that back and say no, of course you can't prosecute a former president, even if he engages in assassination. trump's lawyer was saying in the d.c. circuit that he is immune even from prosecution for assassination unless you first impeach and convict him, which gives him an incentive to kill off enough members of the opposition party or enough reasonable members of the house and senate to keep himself from being impeached or convicted. it is utterly outlandish, but this is where we are with donald trump now. >> outlandish and have to say that i think your post, congressman, is the perfect distillation of what has been happening in this country. everything turned upside down and our chance of correcting it this november. congressman jamie raskin, thank you so much for joining us this evening. joining me now, former member of the democratic house of representatives. she is running to replace rick scott in the senate. great to have you with us. great to see you again. talk to me about why the senate is so important when it comes to the courts, when we see what played out today with the supreme court. >> we are seeing the results of those trump appointees and really reject the opinion of the public. we know that a majority of americans support common sense laws. this was actually an executive order passed under president trump if you remember and that is why executive orders don't stand and it is incredibly important to make sure congress acts and protects the safety of our children, protects public safety for our communities, like congressman raskin, a good friend of mine, just mentioned. they are siding with the gun lobby and not doing what they need to do to protect children's lives. that is very important to be in the senate and make sure that we keep the majority of the senate in november. the senate majority is going to run through florida. we know that we need to pick up a seat. rick scott is the most vulnerable republican we have and the most unpopular republican in the state of florida right now. polling is showing that we are statistically tied at this point, but this man is someone who lies to floridians and tries to lie his record away and is actually right now as we talk about senate appointments, what he is doing is blocking very significant appointments right now in retaliation because he does not agree with the conviction of the former president. he is the poster child of extremism and one of the most radical members we have right now in the senate. >> it seems like he is gas lighting us. rick scott put out an ad vowing to protect ivf, one day after he voted against ivf. it feels a little bit like gas lighting because any other case of believe what they do, not what they say. is there any doubt that he would just follow along with whatever trump wanted, including confirming any and all trump judicial nominees and not be an independent thinker? he is maga through and through. >> absolutely. the man must think we were born yesterday, which is the day that he voted against ivf. this is someone pushing for a national abortion ban. supports the most extreme ban on abortion. a six-week ban with hardly any exceptions, but now he is using his wealth, the wealth he has been accumulating in office, in the senate, to lie to floridians. which is why it is so important for everyone watching tonight to make sure he does not get reelected because he wants to be trump's puppet and become senate majority leader. he will pass a national abortion ban. he will block access to contraception. he will block access to ivf. if you are watching tonight i need you with me. i need you to support me in this race. this is our one opportunity to make sure that we keep the senate majority, so that we can, once and for all, really get rid of the extremist policies that the maga agenda is trying to push through and using rick scott as the puppet for that. >> thank you so much. i greatly appreciate it as always. it is great to see you. >> thank you. coming up, donald trump broke the internet yesterday with one dumb sentence. milwaukee where we are having our convention is a horrible city. it was a politically stupid comment, but it is at least a coherent thought. what do you do when the republican nominee says i will take electrocution every single time? 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so there is a shark 10 yards away from the boat. over here. do i get electrocuted if the boat is sinking and water goes over the battery? do i stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted or do i jump by the shark and not get electrocuted? >> if i said that with a group of friends at a coffee shop here in brooklyn or in new york, they would be very worried about me. that is the republican presidential nominee thinking out loud. do i jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? is this a sitdown old man moment? after all, trump is 78 today. or is this a symptom of an unwell mind we should be worried about is a country? the easy relationship between buffoonery and dictatorship. look at this video released by north korea. it is kim jong-un just last month. ♪♪ >> in 2015 during donald trump's first presidential campaign, when pundits argued about trump's fitness, the daily show's trevor noah said that trump sounded a lot like a dictator who took power in a coup and had hundreds of thousands of people killed. >> once you realize that trump is basically the perfect african president, you notice the similarities everywhere. >> i say not in a braggadocious way, i have made billions and billions of dollars. i made a tremendous amount of money. i'm really rich. i have a great temperament. they love me anyway. i have an amazing job. i was born with a certain intellect. god helped me by giving me a certain brain. >> the former president and best president of uganda. >> the people like me very much. i'm very popular. i'm very powerful. i have got a very good brain. >> mussolini was widely portrayed as a buffoon well ruling fascist italy. a second-rate dictator who was bumbling and ineffectual, he still killed thousands of people and stayed in power for two decades. so what to make of the trump gibberish? tom nichols in the atlantic rights i am not a psychiatrist and i am not diagnosing trump with anything. i am however a man who lived on this earth for more than 60 years and i know someone who has serious emotional problems when i see them played out in front of me over and over. the 45th president is a disturbed person. he cannot be trusted with any position of responsibility and especially not with a nuclear arsenal of 1500 weapons. one wrong move could lead to global incineration. joining me now is tom nichols, former professor at the u.s. naval war college. he is a staff writer at the atlantic, where he is the author of the daily newsletter. and a washington post opinion columnist and msnbc political analyst. good to have you both with us. tom, i will start with you. there are two problems. trump's gibberish as you call it and the coverage of trump's gibberish as i was making light of earlier with alex. how do you present the sharks and electrocution stupidity that we just saw there on the evening or local news? how do you cover that so that when people in america see it they are not laughing about it and dismissing it like an old man who has gone senile, but a man who wants to have the codes to the nuclear weapons. >> one thing is adding headlines that reflect reality. instead of saying things like trump talks about not taxing tips in las vegas. i think the lead, the real headline for that day is former commander in chief goes on mystifying rant about dying from sharks and electrocution. and what happens i think often in the media is that we all go through trump's speeches and it is like a big bag of refrigerator magnets. that little game of words and we pick out the ones that make sense and then stick them back up so they actually make sense in some way. this is really the problem with covering trump in excerpts rather than turning on the camera, showing people and letting him rip. even with the whole shark digression, a lot of the printed excerpts from it, including mine, because you just run out of space, only had little bits from it. i think you need to put it out there in a full paragraph and say look, read this and tell me if this is a person who want to have control of nuclear weapons? this is a person who probably should not have control of car keys. we just don't do that. i think it is that normalcy bias. this is the republican nominee, he actually can't be that unhinged, so we have to find the one nugget of policy that he might have accidentally tripped over while talking and cover that somehow and i think that is a disservice to the public. >> jennifer, why do you think trump gets away with this? you lost the election and yet he still gets a pass for behavior that is literally unthinkable for everyone else? >> to follow up, it is not just what he says, but he gets caught in these cul-de-sacs. he has aphasia. he can't find a word or he makes up a word or he just says sounds to cover for his brain freeze. he is clearly unwell and i think he gets away with it for a few reasons. one is what tom said. the mainstream media has this normalcy bias and this compulsion to present him as a normal candidate, just another choice. joe biden has certain deficits, trump has certain deficits. it is just a normal election, you say. the other way he gets away with it is that he has a whole cold party behind him the covers for him, that says that he sounds sane. that never admits it. when he went behind closed doors and made the comment that milwaukee is a horrible city, mike johnson, speaker of the house, was asked about it and said i was sitting next him, i didn't hear anything. that's a lie, of course he heard it. so he has an entire party that marches behind him in synchronization and finally of course they created this right- wing media bubble that protects him. that dreams up really false narratives and completely false pictures we just had this week in the new york post and other right-wing media outlets, trying to portray the president is kind of wandering around at the g-7 when in fact he was going out to cheer on parachute jumpers. so i think all these things combined give us the sense that he is just another guy. very amusing and look at all these people who come out to cheer him. so i think it is very dangerous and he is clearly disturbed. he has a broken brain. he cannot complete a thought and it is not only that he says bizarre things, but he is incoherent. >> and yet to jennifer's point, tom, it is astonishing that republicans who had a clear ion trump in 2021. they did not need to bring him back to the party. they somehow resurrected him and no more than mitch mcconnell and again we saw that this week. why? >> because that is the easy way. trump has a built-in number of votes and a base and infrastructure and rather than actually being responsible and patriotic members of a party who are going to win an election based on policies and positions and arguments, they have said you know, this guy has a cold and it works for him. that is just easier and why bother doing this other heavy lifting when we can just walk out and talk about space lasers and venezuelan boating and all this crazy stuff and just vacuum the pockets of credulous people who will always respond to these appeals. now you would think that after trump has lost so many times and caused them so much over time, that they might not want to go this road, this kind of lazy, irresponsible, un- american road. but it is easy and also you always have to remember how afraid republican elected officials are of their own voters. they are terrified of them. they are terrified if they cross trump and push him out of the way, the offramp was not as easy as it looks. they could push them out of the way but there would be blowback and they are cowards. so they took the easy road. >> tom nichols, jennifer rubin, always a pleasure. thank you so much. coming up, alex jones has been ordered to pay $1.5 billion for lying about the children murdered at sandy hook elementary school. today those families got some justice as a judge ordered alex jones assets to be liquidated and sold. that is next. next. shop etsy until june 16th and get up to 30% off father's day gifts that go beyond the classic go-to. save on personalized gear, and other things dads dig. when you want a one-of-a-kind gift to show him he's #1. etsy has it. new centrum menopause supplements help unpause life when symptoms pause it. with a multivitamin plus hot flash support. 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of the survivors graduated from high school. one tells nbc news how her classmates saved her life. >> the shooter came into my classroom, so i had to watch my friends and teachers get killed and i had to run for my life at six years old. i know that was really traumatizing for me and just growing up with having the fear and what if's of what could have happened if i stayed because i was going to be next. there was a split second where i decided to say run and we did, we ran. >> that kid was jesse lewis and at six years old he died a hero. his parents were among the families who sued alex jones and one. joining us now is the author of sandy hook, an american tragedy and the battle for truth. she was in the courtroom today. elizabeth, it is great to have you with us. i mentioned you were in the courtroom today. what is the reaction, what was the atmosphere like with the ruling? >> this was an area where the families that sued alex jones in connecticut and those who sued him in texas, which by the way included jesse lewis's parents. they were the texas plaintiffs. they divided on what should be the disposition of the business, his info wars empire. connecticut families wanted it to be closed and go into liquidation, which would essentially be a whole new bankruptcy case in which the business would be sold off for its parts. that money would go to satisfy the debts to the families. texas plaintiffs argued that by dismissing the bankruptcy case they could more quickly pursue jones for the same money and a judge ultimately ruled that the case would be dismissed because it had been in bankruptcy court for two years. they could not achieve a settlement agreement. no one could get together and come up with anything that was palatable to all of the families and jones and so basically that was the purpose of the bankruptcy case. if they could not reach a settlement, there had to be something decided. would they convert to a chapter 7 and liquidate for what the judge dismiss it? he decided to dismiss it. that does not mean that the debts go away. in fact based on an earlier ruling the families have the right to pursue jones for the rest of his life for the money they are owed. >> what is the best worst case scenario for jones right now? >> well i think it can be understated that jones lost his personal financial independence today. a trustee is involved in his personal business. it has long been the case that his business accounts are open to scrutiny. the bankruptcy process has forced a much greater degree of transparency on his business and his personal life and it remains to be seen exactly what will happen with the disposition of the business, but for now he continues to broadcast on info wars. he continues to sell his products. money continues to come in and families have a right to that money. >> this is an emotional week for the new town community with 60 survivors graduating from the high school there. i played a little bit of what emma had to say earlier, but what can you share about how the community has evolved since the shooting and the impact alex jones and his lies have had on them? >> i would never presume to speak for any of the family members or for the town itself and the people who live there. one thing i have noticed in covering this issue and the fight with alex jones for six years is that all of these individuals are united in their desire to try to do something so this kind of thing does not happen to the family members of the next mass shooting. this has become a social media driven phenomenon and families would really like to come to some kind of settlement that would force alex jones to never speak about this again and would also strike a blow against any other conspiracy theorists who would spread this kind of harmful disinformation that hurts already suffering people. >> it is a battle they have one not just for themselves and the community, but the rest of the country, so we are grateful for them. thank you 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idea of trumpism filtering down to the state level. if his name rings a bell, he is the guy who was reprimanded three years ago for referring to democratic member of the colorado house who is black as buckwheat. you may also know him from this story back in january, quote, republican state representative richard holtorf , a candidate for colorado's district, disclosed that he finance and abortion for one of his girlfriend's that he impregnated. i respected her rights and actually gave her money to help her through her important, critical time so that she could live her best life. i respected her rights. what about the rights of women who were not impregnated by richard holtorf ? he was asked about that in a truly excellent 47 minute interview this week by kyle clark of denver's nbc affiliate, and in answering kyle clark's questions, he showed his mastery of three different trump traits. deflection, projection, and, of course, hypocrisy. >> if abortion was the best choice for your girlfriend, why try to deny that with the other women? >> so, let me give you some context about that situation. as i am a pro-life catholic. and i believe everyone should choose life. now, if you listen to my presentation on the house floor, did you listen to it? >> i did, in fact. i just quoted from it. >> so what was the major theme, and what are if he probably 20 times? let me help you. >> i thought you were asking me a question. in fairness, your logic was a bit scattered in that speech. what i am asking you about is the fact that you said you respected your girlfriend's right to an abortion and then gave her money to help her through this time in her life. >> i want to jump into the excellent interrogation by that journalist, kyle clark, and what he is doing here to reiterate what holtorf just said. quote, you did exactly what i did. you deflected. that is a bold choice to flat out admit you are not answering the question. remember, deflection, projection, and hypocrisy. let's go back to the tape. >> why is an abortion good for your girlfriend, that for other women? that is my question. a simple question. >> so, you deflected, and you did a good job on it, by the way. so, the major theme of that presentation, if you listen to it, and i want you to listen to it again. choose life. 20 times i said choose life. now, there are times when that choice can't be made, or it is collocated. particularly for the woman. and i understand that. >> quote, there are times when that choice can't be made or it is collocated, particularly for the woman, and i understand that. this is a trump republican who has voted against abortion rights before, and he will do it again if he can. you may think we just watched a political conversion in real time, but no, keep watching as richard holtorf seems to argue for reproductive rights but concludes there is nothing wrong with him legislating those rights away from women. >> i am a pro-life person. i think you should try to choose life every time. but there are exceptions, and there are times when you need abortions. an abortion is a medical procedure. >> is one of the exceptions wind richard holtorf is the father? >> don't personalize it and make it about me, it is not. >> you told the story on the house floor. >> that doesn't matter. that is a story. it is not that important. what is more important is the policy. the policy. >> i mean, it was her life and her story. and you shared it publicly. >> it's her life. her life and her choice. not my choice. it wasn't my choice. it was her choice. >> and as we have established, you also sought to legislate that choice away from other women, and that is the thing i was asking you to grapple with. >> deflection, projection, hypocrisy. it is not just donald trump or the republicans on capitol hill. trump republicans are on school boards, they are in statehouses. they want to be the future of their party. and i mentioned that richard holtorf is a candidate for the united states congress. he is, in fact, running in a district where one of his primary opponents his current u.s. congresswoman lauren boebert, who thanks to redistricting, is running a new district. it is a highly conservative rural district in this are public and primary is scheduled for later this month on june 25th, dubbed a wild west primary colorado media. holtorf is going to have to out trump lauren boebert if he wants to win, but he seems to have the right skills. and he has that giant trump campaign sign that we cannot forget about. that is why democrats have a plan to stop trump republicans like richard holtorf. joining us now to talk about it is heather williams, the president of the democratic legislative campaign committee. heather, it is great to have you with us. we focused on that single state level republican to explain how trumpism is trying to find root at the local level. perhaps it already has at some extent, and that is where many of the maga republicans now in congress got their start, and where they can have a very severe impact on many of the most pressing issues in our country. expand on that. >> absolutely. and pleasure being here with you today. i think you are absolutely right in the hypocrisy that we are seeing with republicans at the state level all across the country. the supreme court has made it clear that the issues that we hear most about our being decided in the states. and these hypocritical republicans who are playing an active role in it. but i have to say all hope is not lost. our work here is the party that is responsible for this level. our work is to make sure we have strong candidates running across the country, in really important communities, talking about what they will do when they get to their statehouse. expanding our rights, protecting our communities, and i think that that is really critical as we move through this election into november. >> in addition to the funding candidates who are already on the ballot, how are you using resources to recruit would-be candidates into this fraud political environment? are you having a hard time recruiting candidates? >> that is such a great question. we are seeing enthusiasm to run for office all across the country. in these key battleground states that are also key state legislative battlegrounds, we are seeing candidates run in every corner of the states. this is incredible, because these candidates who come out of the communities, who are teachers and coaches and deeply rooted in these communities are showing up to run for office, they are knocking on voters doors, and having very real conversations about what the democratic party values are, about how they will lead in the statehouse, and about how they will protect people's rights, fundamental rights that we hold near and dear. and it is critically important that these races are funded, that they have the resources necessary to tell their stories , and that people are getting involved. if folks want to know 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