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beach, florida. today is the official start of the atlantic hurricane season. it could be one of the busiest ever, expert predicting above normal activity with 17 and 25 names storms. how donald trump might plan to overturn his conviction, was how judge juan or sean did a few things that might make it much harder for chuck to appeal. good to see you buy from world headquarters here in new york city. welcome to "alex witt reports." i am yasmin vossoughian in for my friend alex. we will begin with new follow- up from the verdict in donald trump's hush money trial. todd blanche telling the associated press there is a chance trump might be sentenced to jail time adding that it will be of very contentious sentencing and sang the defense will obviously argue strenuously for a non-and khosrow tory sentence. trump has said he plans to appeal. here's part of a report from -- >> reporter: the former president speaking for more than 30 minutes at trump tower, with eye-catching kill scheme was first hatched for gaping the case that he is a victim for the trial. >> it is a sad thing that is happening in our country. it is a thing that i am honored -- in a way, i am honored. >> reporter: acknowledging the possibility of a jail time. >> i don't feel 77. i would like them to say, we have to have a little sorry for this man. >> reporter: a jury of 12 new yorkers who found him guilty of falsifying business records in order to cover up a hefty payment to stormy daniels before his 2016 victory. >> two new polls conducted in the hours immediately following the verdict, one poll showing 11% of republicans saying that they are less likely to vote like for trump following his conviction while 34% they are more likely to vote my for hampered the new numbers are identical to pre-vertical poles with majority saying the verdict would not change their votes. another poll showing 54% of registered voters approving of this verdict with 34% saying they disapprove. these numbers could change when moore take the time to process news of this historic verdict. it remains within the margin of error. we have correspondence, analyst in place covering all of these new developments. first here with me is lauren hilliard, who has been covering this trial from the very beginning. trump lashing out yesterday on this conviction. he is not alone. who else is falling in line to trump's defense? >> reporter: much like the republican party has done over the last eight years, this is a moment in time where we saw a lot of republicans say, even specifically about not only this case about the january 6th attack. let the justice system play is due course. if they find a crime, they find a crime in this situation, 12 new yorkers not a crime. what you see, yet again, are republicans coming to his defense saying that he should not only be able to go through this appeal, which is his right to do so but they're also attacking the merits and decision that these jurors made , including the speaker of the house, mike johnson. other republican members of the u.s. congress, one-time photos of him, ted cruz, to marco rubio. take a listen to what some have said. >> this is most greatest travesty i have ever seen the democrats across the line they have crossed the line into political weapons. it will be very hard for her not to come back the other way. >> it is dangerous to our system. we have all discussed this before. you talk about it all the time. this is diminishing the faith in our system of justice itself and to maintain a republic, you have to have that. people have to believe that justice is fair. they don't see that right now. >> reporter: this is the part, i think in our role as reporters here, yasmin, there are realities that play out. there is no reason to believe the justice system did not play the role but it was intended to play here. there was a jury selection process that you and i covered over the course of the week. of those jurors, i keep coming back to this, the defense team had the opportunity to contest and challenge for cause any of the jurors they chose to of those 12 jurors that were selected, they only challenge one of them. 11 of them, they did not protest of the system play out as it was meant to do. donald trump has a right to appeal. what you have seen, five months out from the general election in the joe biden/donald trump rematch is republican lawmakers have come to his defense on the crimes which they so often as we have seen, they are not getting the specifics of the charges against him and the witnesses and the evidence that was provided. really just providing a broad brush stroke over the entire prosecution and suggesting these charges should have never been brought against him they were politically motivated to take down republican nominee for president. >> there was a moment when we go back to jury selection when the judge asked if you cannot be impartial, if you know yourself but you cannot be impartial throughout this trial, raise your hand and you will be immediately excused. there was a point every time they would have 90 plus jurors in place. over half of them would leave the courtroom but that question was asked repeatedly as they were trying to see the jury. >> reporter: when donald trump was in the white house, where the southern district of new york would seek charges because michael cohen, the marquis witness and provided days of testimony, he pled guilty to several climbs -- crimes including election violation that was the underlying crime that was alleged here. because donald trump was in the white house, he was protected from being charged and going through this entire process. we don't know whether he would have been charged to be not been in the white house or not. this is sort of the idea that you can go and seek charges once he leaves. that is what took place. the court of public law that played out in jurors found him guilty. >> i want to bring in suzanne craig. she has been in the courtroom from day one at danny cevallos as well and msnbc legal analyst. welcome to you both. i want to pick up on what i saw the show off with. we know donald trump will appeal this thing and take it all the way up to the supreme court. your publication reporting that merchan has booked some blockades in place to make this more difficult for trump and his attorneys to appeal this thing. >> reporter: one of the first things he did was there was criticism about his daughter and his daughter being a political activist. he went and got a decision from an outside body, a judicial body saying that he could continue. he has done little things like that to bulletproof himself. when you really step back and look at this case, it was how he handled himself every day. he was so even in his treatment and it was by design. i think that is going to really serve him well. i think even little things, i was just thinking about this. there was a moment where the jurors were given the documents on laptops. they were given a lot of exhibits to look at. he made sure that the fact that the wi-fi was turned off on those computers and it was read into the record. every piece along the way. use ostomy things like that in the courtroom that he did that went to the fact that in the back of his mind he was thinking, he knows it would be appealed and he wants the decision to be upheld on appeal. >> i'm glad you brought those examples up. danny, i want you to speak to that, which is what goes into building an appeal for the defense. what will they focus most on here? we know jury instructions are going to be important for those jury instructions, the 55 pages that were read out. judge juan merchan himself, which is why she is signing some of these examples. what else? >> reporter: to build an appeal, you have to build a record. one of the issues i noticed and i prefer not to criticize counsel that there were not a lot of objections raised. that was not me talking but that was justice merchan during the critical points that will be an appealable issue heard the stormy daniels testimony justice merchan noted that the dip and was not objecting when he thought they should have been. as you build an appeal, you look for our judge errors. i agreed that justice merchan was pretty evenhanded. i'm not saying smu might appear in front of -- too often lawyers get on the air and say this judge is fair but no nonsense. nothing but praise for judges. i really did think he was pretty fair and move things along and efficient. appealable issues are not limited to judge errors alone. they may appear on issues, like the law itself the law itself is problematic. it might be unconstitutionally vague and violate due process. that has nothing to do with justice merchan. a fair criticism might be that justice merchan may have applied the law very well and according to the law and what the legislature prescribed, however, the legislature itself may have made a mistake in enacting this law. that happens all the time. >> i want to play speaker mike johnson, who is urging the team to take this all the way to the supreme court and is confident it is going to get overturned. >> i do believe the supreme court should step in. this is totally unprecedented and dangerous to our system. i think the justices on the court, i know many personally. i think they are deeply concerned about that as we are. i think they will set this straight but is going to take a while to play out. this will be overturned, there is no question about it but it is going to take time. >> i talked about this in last hour with katie phang. i saw some things problematic when i heard from mike johnson but alluding to the fact he was having conversation with the justices as if he is picking up the phone and calling them, what you think? how do you think you're actually going to decide? to know how the supreme court would decide if it were to even make it there. >> reporter: i start out listening to that sound, it is not a sure thing this goes to the supreme court because most state convictions stay in state appellate court systems. and then i started hearing about speaking to the judges, supposedly. and then i was jarred out of my reverie and realized, supreme court justices are not supposed to be talking about cases. the first thing had me thrown and then the second theme for me off the first thing. one, no guarantee biscuits to the united states supreme court. two, the fact that justices they have been talking about it had to be a huge problem. i would not go by his statement alone. it certainly perks a lot of folks' ears up to hear back. mech suzanne, you want to weigh in on this? >> reporter: i thought that was political rhetoric. what are they going today. they will not say this is a great case and the supreme court will not hear but i think they are just trying to put poison in everybody's ear on various things. it is interesting. i was thinking one of your earlier comments about how people on both sides are zeroing in on the rule of law and what happened. it was a failure of the rule of law and joe biden was a an example of it being upheld and are not willing to go on this. i am wondering as we get closer to the election in swing states, how this is going to play. are the democrats going to go lower in terms of commercials and what he did and what the underlying issues were in the case? right now, they are very much focused on there was a conviction and it was just. they are not talking about the upsetting underlying facts that we live through day in and day out in court. >> it also seem like mike johnson is building this political steam. i am wondering the messaging that the trump campaign is giving to the republican surrogates out there when it comes to this conviction. are they wanting them to lead with this conviction? if so, how are they wanting them to spit it? >> reporter: number one, new york. if you say new york, atlanta , you are making the implied statements -- >> bleeding heart liberals -- >> reporter: biden directed. there is matthew, who is the number three prosecutor on the case. used to work for the department of justice. for the entire time once he joined the d.a.s team, he was suggesting that this was at the hand of joe biden. people move around jobs all the time. not an unusual thing, let alone if you are a prosecutor. people have the right to do that. this is the part, and if you have the judge in the case whose daughter is, i think everyone has family members that go from the entire political spectrum. most families have them here. if we all associate with every family matter in our lives, we could build quite a political coalition. we met we might just be alone. >> reporter: that is accurate. those are the realities that the republicans are not presenting to america. i think that is the harsh reality that i come back to us as journalists. it is not us versus the words of the republicans but the way that they are framing the justice system in america today. it is not truly emblematic of the way that the process is playing out and whose hand is ultimately the one that is issuing the indictment but it is a grand jury of new yorkers are the ones that formally indict him in march of 2023. we were listening to some the j.d. vance, marco rubio, these are innovators who are posturing for the vice presidency and for donald trump, loyalty is paramount. when you are looking at through the lens of the nominee of the republican party and if you are republican that is wanting to get policy through in 2025, you have to defend your man to the tea. there is a bargain that is often struck and the republicans have largely been able to do that for eight years. these individuals who are out there on the front lines mike johnson, if you want to be successful, past conservative policies. he needs donald trump in the white house and he will do what it takes even if it means busting the justice system that is at the heart of the american foundation. >> weather violated the gag order with his guilty verdict up first, breaking news. idaho dunes is offered chad has been sentenced to death after jurors found guilty in the killings of his first wife and two children of his second wife. they painted daybell as infatuated apocalyptic thoughts. his second wife was convicted last year and received multiple life sentences without parole . back in 90 seconds. with no children and no casinos. we actually have reinvented ocean voyages, designing all-inclusive experiences for the thinking person. viking - voted world's best by both travel + leisure and condé nast traveler. learn more at viking.com. here is what is next for donald trump and he remains free without bail. motions are due june 13. send his recognition motions are due june 27th. that is the same day the first presidential debate takes place. july 11th, his sentencing date, four days later he will accept the nomination at the rnc, if you can believe it. suzanne craig and daniel is back with me to talk more about all of this. i want to pick up a little bit on where i left off in the last segment. how we judge, suzanne, the merit and strength of this case early on. did we do a disservice to the manhattan d.a. by saying this was the four of the weakest, at times, case when they conferred a conviction. we look at the d.c. election interference and said that is the strongest. >> reporter: i never thought about in terms -- i have heard that debate. i looked at it in terms of severe and consequential. i also still think the election interference part of it, i know people are calling a hush money payment and payment to a star, so it was minimized. it had to do with election interference. it seems cinematic to me when you look at the fact that there is also the january 6th case, the rights and threat to democracy right at the heart of it. in the classified documents case is so serious. i think that we can't -- i just sort of frame it more journalistically. i look at it in terms of did we do a disservice or service to its? there certainly was novel things in this case that cause people to have that discussion. it was the first to go forward and they have a conviction. a lot of people did not think it would get to that point and maybe it should not have been brought. i just 10 to believe you should bring the cases that are just and feel right, no matter who they are against. >> daniel, i want to talk sentencing here but i want have clarity on this gag order. my understanding is and correct me if i'm wrong -- suzanne or danny if you know this information -- i was taking a look at the gag order from the court. my understanding is this gag order is still in place. if that is, in fact, the case, he did violate the gag order even yesterday during his 45 minute or so presser. you coupled that with his 10 violations throughout the trial and the $10,000 he has had to pay and you think about the sentencing. is there a possibility of the former president seeing jail time here, danny? >> reporter: there is a possibility. i don't believe he will see jail time. let me take you through the for and against. the four incarceration are less than the against the incarceration for donald trump will not accept responsibility. that is a major factor. a significant factor in sentencing. related to that is his defiance of the gag order. basically, his constantly annoying the judge. those are two points that way in favor of a possible incarceration sentence. here are the points against it. one, no violence. two, no drugs. three, no drugs or guns. first-time offender. five, over 70 years old the rates of asceticism plummet after age 70. and the others i think are indisputable. the controversial reason is there is no traditional loss and no traditional victims. i have gotten a lot of heat for saying this. what i am talking about is the way we traditionally way victims and loss. >> isn't stormy daniels seen -- did not mean to interrupt you but sometimes i like to. isn't stormy daniels, which she not be considered a victim here? not the victim in the normal sense of the word, she is not a murder victim per se or an assault victim but, nonetheless, a victim of this, right? >> reporter: stormy daniels is the opposite of a victim. she made $130,000. i would be hard-pressed to find a victim in american criminal history who profited to the tune of $130,000. normally they are measured, they can be the state or government if you defraud them out of welfare benefits. or they can be victims, let us say i made of a fictional university and charge people tuition, like someone we know. that might be a victim if there were a criminal case. they handed over the money and was defrauded. this is not the traditional view of victims and loss. people will say, well, he may have subverted the election and look at all the bad things that happen as a result. i agree, that might be true. it is not what we traditionally think of at least in sentencing as vic comes and loss. anyone can make an argument and i am listening. anyone can make an argument that there is consequences and people were hurt as a result of donald trump's crying. it is not what we, in the criminal justice system, traditionally think of as victims and financial loss. you met the keyword that danny has been using is tradition. this is skirting tradition but you said it, is that not the voters? >> reporter: something of great value, so much value donald trump thought it was enough that he went to such great lengths to hide it from the american voters. this is new territory but they are victims. would people have changed their vote if they had known this information? donald trump certainly thought so because he went to great lengths to keep it from them >> danny, the probation office who has to do the presentencing investigation, the presentencing interviews with donald trump's family members and that kind of thing. is it likely, even, that don jr. or eric trump or donald trump himself are going to sit down with anyone from the office to give these interviews to prepare for the sentencing? >> reporter: they don't necessarily have to. the probation officer conducts and prepares their interviews and sometimes don't want to talk. you can imagine a situation where a criminal, his spouse, i'm not going to talk. they ruined our lives. that happens. it is not uncommon for that to happen. do they really need to interview donald trump to get his biographical information? can they not just google it, everything is known about donald trump. normally, they are trying to find out things to tell the judge the context about this person's life. the psr is important and the facts go to the judge and the judge weighs it heavily. more so than the sentencing memorandum from each side. the big question, i know the defense will ask for probation only. i am looking to see what the d.a. does. do they say, we declare victory? we don't need an incarceration sentence. or do they go for jail time? that is a really interesting question. >> i want to talk about politics for a moment and who will benefit from all of this. robert kennedy has been in the wings, waiting. >> reporter:'s name comes up as someone who could potentially benefit if this does drive away people who were leaning towards trump or in trump's camp, i think he will always have the corporate kennedy does stand to benefit. it is a good reminder, i pulled up the list. he is already on the ballot in california, delaware, hawaii, oklahoma, texas and utah. he has secured his place in numerous other states including iowa, nebraska and idaho. he is looking to get on the ballot in every state. we do not talk about it a lot but he is moving forward and he has got money and machinery on the ground. he is collecting signatures to get on the ballot or he is getting on through the other parties. he is taking their spot. i see him as a winner in terms of what happened this week. if there is people who are looking for an alternative and he is out there criticizing the verdict, he is definitely playing into that and hoping to cut off some vote on this. >> who benefits from the loss of a bobby kennedy voted ? >> reporter: joe biden. >> suzanne crag. danny cevallos, thank you as well. the unexpected move from the white house and the israel/hamas war and the message seen on a banner in this crowd in tel aviv. coming up next. norman, bad news... i never graduated from med school. what? -but the good news is... xfinity mobile just got even better! now, you can automatically connect to wifi speeds up to a gig on the go. plus, buy one unlimited line and get one free for a year. i gotta get this deal... i know... faster wifi and savings? ...i don't want to miss that. that's amazing doc. mobile savings are calling. visit xfinitymobile.com to learn more. doc? the president on friday outlining in israeli proposal for a permanent cease-fire in gaza and release of the hostages. biden saying that hamas, quote, is no longer capable of carrying out a large-scale attack on israel and called all the militant group to agree to a new offer. it is happening as forces advance into central wausau, despite pressure to scale back the offensive. i want to bring in from london josh lederman to talk more about this. josh, i want to bring up some live pictures right now inside tel aviv, especially of this ongoing protest in support of the hostages. i am seeing an interesting banner bear from the protesters but they are holding thing, if i can say it correctly, biden saved them from netanyahu. what can you tell us about this protest and what is ongoing insight israel right now? >> reporter: when they hold up that sign, apparently that is a reference to the hostages with a bottle of frustrated israelis on the ground in israel who feel like netanyahu in his zeal to litigate this war against hamas, the pressure he is getting from the far right members of his coalition is doing that at the expense of bringing those hostages home printer that has been a long- running concern. that banner that you have been showing, actually showed up a couple weeks of go at an anti- netanyahu protest in israel just hours before iran struck israel with all of the ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones. there is a lot of concern about whether netanyahu will focus on bringing the hostages home. which would be a key part of this deal that president biden has now laid out. a big development in that speech yesterday was the fact that president biden says that israel is now willing to actually end this war completely. something that israel has long maintained it was not willing or ready to do in negotiations. president biden making it clear that he believes this is a decisive moment in the war and the best chance to bring the hostages home. take a listen. >> this is truly a decisive moment. israel has made their proposal. hamas says it wants a cease- fire. this deal is an opportunity to prove whether they really mean it. hamas needs to take the deal. for months, people all over the world have called for cease- fire. now, it is time to raise your voices and demand that hamas come to the table. and end this war that they began. >> reporter: yasmin, one of the big concerns, is everyone on the same page of what is in this deal ? we have seen a pattern before where the white house described what israel is willing to do and then netanyahu came out with, suggesting that was not quite it. we are seeing that again now with netanyahu putting out a statement saying, we are not willing to end this war until hamas is completely eliminated its governing and military capabilities. that is not something president biden laid out. they are also making it clear that they could resume the fighting at any point in time, even if there is a cease-fire. which is not something that hamas wants to see. while we wait for a response from hamas, there is questions about whether israel has committed to what president biden says they have committed to. one opportunity for israel to clarify that may come when prime minister netanyahu addresses both houses of congress in a speech following the invitation that was submitted to him by congress. then yahoo saying in the last few minutes that he has accepted that invitation and looks forward to be able to address american lawmakers. >> thank you, josh. the money is pouring in but also pouring out. what we have learned about donald trump's legal bills. coming up next. ng up next (♪♪) try dietary supplements from voltaren, for healthy joints. 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>> there is a fine print disclosure, a little tiny type that indicates he can withdraw part of the money to pay his legal fees. it is kind of odd to see a man who claims to be a multimillionaire begging for donations especially when he announced nine years ago that he would not need and take any contributions from anybody. he is going to continue to have these legal bills for a long time. i am not surprised, yasmin, that he got a brief bump in contributions, lots of small contributions from new donors. it will be interesting to see whether that continues going forward. that would be the important side, not the media bump following the finding. >> you have these new filings ahead of the verdict that were put out there showing that trump's save america packed, $1.1 million to five different law firms. in addition, $3.3 million that the committee spent in april on legal consulting alone. expectations of a lot of money to shell out when it comes to that new york conviction. can he afford all of this? >> it depends on how much money he really has as opposed to his claims. in just a matter of hours, on occasion, donald has claimed his fortune went up by billions of dollars in three or four hours. he also has a lot of other bills but there are number of cities around america that billed his campaign for extra police protection. he has yet to pay those and they are all across the country. of course, that is typical of how donald operates. he takes services and refuses to pay for them. >> i want to read this piece that you are after the verdict came down but it was title, we told you so. i realize that donald was not an entrepreneur who builds wealth or enterprise but i financial vampire who drains forms of cash until they collapse leaving workers, vendors and governments unpaid. why do you feel like this was so important to put out there in light of this conviction? >> i think people don't have a good understanding of who donald is and who he has always been 36 years ago i became the first journalist to write about the prospect of his going to the white house for that is one reason i paid attention to him all these years. i thought he was a significant force in american culture and our politics. many people have no idea but he was involved up to is eyeballs and did incredible favors for one of the biggest drug traffickers in america. that he applied children as young as 12 liquor and limousines and hotel rooms because they had money to gamble. the minimum age for gambling is 21, not 12. and many things i have documented over the last 36 years that have generally not been covered in the mainstream media, including my former employer, the new york times. >> let us talk about his sentencing. i know you have a strong opinion on this. do you think donald trump could see jail time? >> absolutely. i know that most of the legal commentators have been saying they think it is unlikely. while that is true that wealthy white men with no past record in their 70s, typically on a first offense for white-collar crime, don't go to jail. sentencing also depends on the behavior of the accused. if you are contrite and knowledge that you did wrong, you typically get a lighter sentence. in donald's case, he has tenant criminal contents. after the jury came in he continued attacking the judge and attacking the system. i think he is inviting judge merchan to give him a sentence behind bars. frankly, i will be surprised if he does not get at least 30 days behind bars. >> david cay johnson, appreciate it. voters are telling us about the donald trump conviction next. next shingles is a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. ahhh, there's nothing like a day out with friends. that's nice, but shingles doesn't care! 99% of adults 50 years or older already have the virus that causes shingles inside them, and it can reactivate at any time. a perfect day for a family outing! guess what? 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>> reporter: i have been speaking to voters since the verdict to gauge the reaction and most of the conversation i have had point of the reuters finding that the overall majority of these voters don't feel like it will have an impact on who they votes for this november. trump supporters continue to repeat the president of's claim that the trial was unfair and politicized. while biden are trying to add those reasons. they don't feel donald trump is fit for the presidency. one interesting observation i made, at least for supporters of president biden is that those who have been critical of him based on his handling of the war in gaza are not more inclined to not support him even though the binary choice they will face as november is biden or president trump, who will appear on the ticket as a convicted felon. one voter i spoke to told me that she hangs the options being presented to her as a traditional democratic voter is indicative of a democracy in crisis. take a listen to what she had to say. >> i think it is been in crisis for a while now but this is kind of a culmination of all of that. one of our two options is a felon and the other one also doesn't drum up a lot of enthusiasm. >> once upon a time, i felt like i would be cheering that this has happened. it does not benefit our country in any way that trump is indicted. >> reporter: those are just some of the conversations i have been having here in atlanta. i want to hone in on the first voter you heard from britt an arab and american voter and a poll worker who has traditionally supported democrats. she pointed to biden's handling of the war in gaza. when i asked her, is the verdict shaping who you think about mac for? she told me is, no. for the first time she remains undecided four months out from the election. that suggests that even as president biden proposes a plan for a cease-fire and as he grows in increasingly critical of israel those may not be breaking through to his core supporters in states like battleground georgia. >> important observation to point out. thank you. i want to go now to another keep battleground state, arizona. biden be donald trump by more than 10,000 vote in 2020. it could be a different story. i want to bring in political correspondent. how are books there reacting to the verdict, alex? >> reporter: i've had dozens of conversation with arizona's beer here in maricopa county and phoenix and in tucson since the guilty verdict. there has been the three main takeaways from the conversations. they are angry. they feel like there is a political persecution. two, president biden supporters feel like this is a fair trial that justice has been served. i spoke to one who was on the way to the supermarket to buy a champagne bottle to celebrate the guilty verdict. three, that regardless of where these voters landed on the political spectrum, many of them did not know exactly what former president donald trump was found guilty of i want you to hear from four of these voters. a trumpeter, a trump boater and two undecided about they are digesting this guilty verdict and if they think it will have any political ramifications come november. do you think this guilty verdict will have any effect on the actual trajectory of this race? >> how can it not have an impact? we have got 34 felonies, this guy is crooked as a dog's hind leg. >> reporter: you know what he's been found guilty of exactly? >> no. i think he is guilty of being the best president ever. >> reporter: he says this conviction is politically motivated. >> wind chime? he is the sorcerer. he is the witch. it makes no sense. >> reporter: the vast majority of this conversation, the voters have been telling me this is not changing their calculus for november the are still planning to put back the same way they were before this guilty verdict. as you noted, this is a battleground state with razor thin margins. anything can change and have huge implications in the fall. >> thank you, alex. it is an election where the stakes could not be higher. some say, whoever inherits the presidency also inherits a ticking time bomb. no, were not talking about america. we will be right back. smart igh? feel more confident with stock ratings from j.p. morgan analysts in the chase app. when you've got a decision to make... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management. sara federico: at st. jude, we don't care who cures cancer. we just need to advance the cure. the heart of st. jude is to take care of children with catastrophic diseases and to advance their cure rates. but we need to be able to do that for everyone. it's a bold initiative, to try and bump cure rates all around the world. but we should. it is our commitment. 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