the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. e starts now ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tonight, donald trump's ramped up rhetoric, setting the tone for his 2024 campaign. plus, trump jr. is back on the stand in new york's fraud trial. we will break down what happened in court today. and with a potential government shutdown just days away, house speaker mike johnson faces his first major test. then, a message of unity amid an ongoing war. to peace activists joining us with a mission to stand together, as the 11th hour gets underway on this monday night. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening once again. i am stephanie ruhle. we begin this evening with increasingly alarming messaging from criminal defendant and gop current front-runner donald j trump, about what he wants to do if he wins a second term. reports describe a potential second trump administration focused on mass deportations, immigration raids, and a u.s. government filled with trump loyalists ready to carry out his extreme policies. trump's 2024 campaign responded to those reports, calling them, quote, purely speculative and theoretical. but this past veterans day, when millions of americans honor those who sacrificed for our country, this is what we heard from the former president. >> we pled stick to you that we will root out the communists, marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country. the real threat is not from the radical right. the real threat is from the radical left, and it is growing every day, every single day. the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. our threat is from within. >> you want to get alarmed? the washington post accurately points out similar language was used by dictators, including hitler and mussolini. and one journalist who has covered donald trump extensively said trump's words point to the theme of his upcoming 2024 campaign. >> they are embracing this idea. they are embracing the idea that they are out to get retribution against the deep state, against the communists, the radicals, the rhinos, and the vermont. i mean, they are bracing this idea. that is a different campaign, i mean, it just is. and he's been proving that over the past two weeks. >> even as trump himself faces 91 felony counts, he is also battling the civil fraud case here in new york that could and history to state business. today, his legal team began their defense and that trial. their first witness? trump's eldest son, donald trump jr., we are nearly two weeks ago he went under oath for the prosecution. he is back. on the stand today, he reportedly praised his father's business calling him a, quote, missionary. of course, the former president, his company, and his sons don junior and eric, all defendants in this case. with that, let's get smarter this evening with the help of our leadoff panel. it is an excellent one. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times, he is here in person at 30 rock. we never thought we'd see him. luke broadwater, pulitzer prize -winning congressional reporter for the new york times. and kristy greenberg, former federal prosecutor and former sdny criminal division deputy chief. peter, i'm so happy to see you in person. however, we need to stop with the legal questions. i want to start with this tape obtained out of georgia by abc and the washington post, jenna ellis, a co-defendant and former trump campaign attorney shared, told prosecutors about a conversation she had with dan scavino, long, long time trump a back in 2020. let's watch this. >> i thought that the claims and the ability to challenge the congressional results was essentially over. we said -- we said to him, well we don't care, and we're not gonna leave. he said what do you mean. he said the bus is not going to leave under any circumstances. we are just going to stay in power. and i said to him, it's not working that way. he said i don't care. >> okay, nbc has not independently verified this video. but what does it mean for fani willis's case and trump's defense? he's not leaving no matter what. >> well, it is powerful evidence potentially. so one thing that was racing through my mind when i saw that, okay, dance gavino who said this, how are we getting that statement into evidence? , how are we getting tit's not e necessarily admissible through jenna ellis. it is double hearsay. and he's not a charged party. he is not a coconspirator, at least identified yet in the indictment. so how does that come in? at the very least, she provided an investigative lead. she provided information for the d.a. to go and follow up on and hopefully flip dan scavino because this could be really important evidence as to trump's motive for why he was involved in the fake electors scheme, all of the r.i.c.o. conspiracy ties into, i did not want to leave office. >> so, jack smith could potentially use this video in the federal election's case? >> i don't think he can use the video, only if potentially jenna ellis said something different, and then potentially who could use it to confront her for changing her story. but the statement itself, the truth of it, not admissible on its own. it is dan scavino told her what trump told him. so, he would have to find a way to try and get it in, either through dance gavino saying with trump told him, trump's party, so it can be admissible then. or maybe somebody else heard it in the case. again, it's going to lead fani willis and jack smith potentially to investigate further. >> we have not heard dan scavino name in a while, and he's a trump ride or die. peter, what does this video tell you about what was going on inside that white house? >> i think it is very revealing, what trump people say is he did it ultimately in january 20th. so even if he said this to dan scavino, so what? ultimately he does walk out of the white house. but i think it is very emblematic of the attitude of this president towards the constitution, towards the system, as we saw time and time again in that postelection period, he was willing to fill out every norm, every standard -- >> still is. >> and he still is, may not be admissible in court. lawyers have to meet certain standards. but we, citizens, journalists, take that into account and evaluate what it tells us about a president. he wants to be able to stay in power regardless of what the voters think. >> look, jenna, ellis let's just think about who she was, she worked hand in hand with sydney powell and rudy giuliani. we know that powell has already pleaded guilty and she has talked to prosecutors. how that could this video be than for giuliani? >> well, i think quite bad because i think what you are seeing here is that, you know, jenna ellis and sidney powell, there's a reason they were off for plead eels, right? they were providing very valuable information to the prosecution as they work their way up the chain. we always thought this was how it was going to kind of go with the fani willis prosecutions, right? they started with so many defendants and we expected it to narrow and narrow as people fled and then turned state evidence. so that's exactly what the prosecutors are doing here. and they are really revealing more information than even those of us who covered the january 6th case so closely. we knew trump had been told time and time again that he lost the election. but now, we are hearing it from even more people and even more examples of its. >> let us change topics. i want to talk, peter, about donald trump and his supposed plans for the white house. and i want to share what historian ruth ben-ghiat said about trump's speech over the weekend. watch this. >> we are talking about people like vermin, that goes together with the plans for instant, you know, actions to purge civil servants, plans reported elsewhere by the new york times to find lawyers who will be unethical because, you know, if you are trying to have an autocracy, you need corrupt and lawless people to be part of the government. otherwise, you don't get anything done. you also need to convince people to see violence differently, and donald trump has been doing that since 2015. >> peter, you know this man so, so we'll. you wrote a book on his white house. is this extreme even for him? house. >> well, it is. but, i mean, you have to understand the pattern of donald trump. the pattern is he tells us what he's gonna do, right? we don't have to get. he is very transparent about it. he is transparent, he was transparent five, six months before the 2020 election, telling us he would accept no result other than a win for him. he will call it rigged if he lost. he followed through on that. he told us time and time again that he would, you know, pursue policies or ideas out of bounds. time and time again, he tried to batter his own justice department, the prosecutors enemies. to hear now that he is planning a second term to do some of these things, we should take the past as prologue. but what we try to do in some cases, wasn't able to do because we had people surrounding him, trying to restrain him, republicans who did not agree with where he was going. and if we see a second term if he's elected, i think the kind of people who are developing those plans you've been seeing in the newspapers in the last few days are the ones who are planning her how to purge the bureaucracy, not just political people, but much deeper than any president has done in the century. he plans, massive camps for migrants, plans to prosecute his enemies, not because they committed any crimes. they don't even mention any crimes, but just because they criticize him. by the way, his own chief of staff, his own attorney general, his own chairman of the joint chiefs, his own former lawyer, he's telling us in advance what he's going to do. >> when people show you who they are, believe them. , kristy, isn't this a direct challenge, though, rule of law, essentially in our constitution. >> absolutely. i think about the fact that there were people within the white house that were his lawyers, people that were doj officials, any number of people who stepped in and said, no, you can't do this. had they not done that, who knows where we would be right now? there were people that donald trump had appointed who stood up to him when all of this went down. so, now to think that those kind of people who have some kind of a conscience are no longer going to be in office, if he were in office, and that he would just appoint a bunch of yes men's terrifying. >> luke, the rnc chair woman, rana ronny mcdaniel, did not condemn what he said. are any republicans on the hill, and i don't mean those retiring like mitt romney, are they concerned about his comments? >> you know, i did not hear any concern today as i walk the halls of the capitol. you know, the republicans were fighting amongst themselves about whether or not they're gonna have to shut the government down. and they were attempting to impeach the homeland security secretary, alejandro mayorkas. so, i did not hear a lot about these comments from the house republicans today. yes, there are people who think donald trump is very dangerous for the party, and think he is an election loser. i think this kind of rhetoric is terrible, but we have not heard them speak out publicly. >> so, no major groups in the republican party are listening to his rhetoric, and saying this man needs to step aside. however, peter, democrats are saying that joe biden, maybe he is too old, maybe they need somebody else for this position. when you put the two side by side, that just seems crazy. so, is this white house going to, campaign at least, planning a much bigger response to this, to get the american people to focus on what donald trump is actually saying. >> frustration, actually, among a lot of democrats that the president has not done that himself. a lot of the surrogates do, but the president himself more or less stays away from these kinds of discussions. every once in a while, he would give a speech about his view of the threat to democracy that donald trump poses. but he doesn't do it on a sustained basis. they think he needs to do that because the choice, the election next year is going to be between incumbent that people are disenchanted with, at least some people disenchanted with on this side. >> disenchanted, although he's gotten almost everything done that he campaigned on, including being a bipartisan president. >> it's nothing they don't like what he's done, democrats who are disenchanted, they just think that he needs to step aside, that his time is done. they like his policies, his program, a lot of his accomplishments. they just need that he, will turn 81 next week -- >> essentially, same age as donald trump who was facing 91 trump -- >> that is the white house strategy, get these democrats and independents to come back to biden by making them understand what they face as a threat that donald trump poses. that's a contrast. they're not gonna win, they think, by pumping biden up. they don't feel that's gonna be possible. they answer this to make people scared of donald trump for a good reason, they think. and a lot of democrats are frustrated they haven't done more to do that. but there still a year to go. >>, kristy let us, let us talk about trump's civil case. had there been cameras in the courtroom today. don junior basically sent a big infomercial for his dad's business? how does this help the defense, calling him a visionary, some of the sexist projects out there? come on now. >> it doesn't. the judge said it was completely irrelevant. but he let it in, he said he doesn't want to get overturned on appeal. essentially, it sounded like he was trying to sell the judge a timeshare, as opposed to illegal defense. >> oh my god. let's be clear, that never works for anyone. >> exactly. like many bad presentations, this was also a scam. i mean, he was going through the trump history with photographs and hours of a power point of showing pools, penthouses, and golf courses, and describing in those flowery terms if missionary, iconic, and spectacular. and he is skipping over the multiple bankruptcies, all the workers that have been stiff, all the time that trump's slum lords, like, all of that kind of fell off the hours long presentation. so, as the judge said, it was irrelevant. but he let him do it. and, you know, we are all -- >> we are probably in the most important part of the case, misrepresenting the value of the assets both to the government and to potential lenders. peter, let's talk about the supreme court before we go. they now have this new app ethics code of conduct. most are not new in their guidelines, they're not enforceable. on one hand, you can say, wow, this is the first time the supreme court has responded to public pressure and done something, but all they really did was just write down what already existed on a piece of paper and handed it in. >> a lot of people haven't done that. why don't you put it down on people -- >> because you can blow your nose with that paper. >> look, we don't have an enforcement methodology. that is the obvious problem here, who can police the supreme court other than the supreme court? that's a structural issue in our system in that sense. but at least, some people say they have finally outlined what they believe their standards to be, and we as a public can hold them to it. before that, we did not know what the standards were because they were more or less what each justice wanted to make of them. >> except holding them to it is just saying, look, dishonest piece of paper, you really shouldn't have done that. and they can go, i guess. and i'm still going back to work tomorrow. quickly before we go to break, look, you are on the hill, speaker johnson is facing his big first test this week, the shutdown just a few days away. where are things standing tonight, luke? >> yeah, he is still facing a lot of pressure from the hard right about his plan to try to keep the government open. if i had to bet right now, i would guess they do get a deal to have the continuing resolution. but he will need democratic votes to do it, and that will put him in some of the same hot water that eventually caused kevin kathy to lose his job. so, he has a bit of a honeymoon period right now. but he is getting a lot of pushback from the hard right for trying to keep the government open. >> let's see what happens. , peter baker great to have you here in person. kristy greenberg, thank you. luke broadwater, you are going to have a long and busy week. when we come back, a top democrat seems open to the new speakers strategy to avoid the partial shutdown. conor lamb and mark mckinnon are here. and later, israel says hamas has lost control of gaza as the fighting rages on. to these activists joining us on their mission to unify israelis and palestinians. the 11th hour just getting underway on a very important mundane. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ it's easy to get lost in investment research. introducing j.p. morgan personal advisors. hey david. connect with an advisor to create your personalized plan. let's find the right investments for your goals okay, great. j.p. morgan wealth management. somedays, i cover up because of my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now i feel free to bare my skin, thanks to skyrizi. ♪(uplifting music)♪ ♪nothing is everything♪ i'm celebrating my clearer skin... my way. with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. in another study, most people had 90% clearer skin, even at 5 years. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. thanks to clearer skin with skyrizi - this is my moment. there's nothing on my skin and that means everything! ♪nothing is everything♪ now's the time. ask your doctor about skyrizi, the #1 dermatologist-prescribed biologic in psoriasis. learn how abbvie could help you save. only unitedhealthcare medicare advantage plans learn how abbvie could come with the ucard - one simple member card that opens doors where it matters for you. what if we need to see a doctor away from home? 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he's got four days left to keep the government open. >> it looks like we are just gonna end up with basically the same bill that kevin mccarthy would have put together, if not one that's actually a little bit more favorable to the democrats. so, it makes one ask what was the point of the whole kevin got the exercise? it doesn't look like speaker johnson is delivering one of the, you know, fiscally conservative priorities that he's talked so much about. it seems like it's been a lot of sound and fury adding up to nothing. >> but how kevin mccarthy must be feeling about this? right? the humiliation of 15 votes, he gets the gig, and then they fire him over essentially a bill that johnson's gonna do the same thing. >> listen, i think he knows that mike johnson just got the keys to the gates of hell. [laughter] and he's never able to please anybody. republicans have caught the card, and it's clear and clear that republicans, a, can't govern and, b don't want to govern. and we look at the short term cr and the next month or two -- >> oh, boy, tim scott, he has dropped out of the presidential race officially this weekend. conor lamb, do you see that changing anything in the republican primary? >> no, not at all. i haven't seen a single shred of evidence since this thing got started that trump has lost his votes here. and he seems to get stronger every time he's indicted or he has some kind of legal process. he is in the driver's seat, and i think everyone else is just competing for, you know, vp or a cabinet post. why they want that? i don't know but it seems like he is in luck. >> okay, i'm asking you the hard question that i asked peter baker a moment agostion td peter baker a moment ago -- even though he's gotten a tremendous amount done, right? he's delivered on camping promise after camping promise and a ton on a bipartisan basis yet people are saying, maybe he needs to step aside. get no one is saying that about donald trump who is facing 91 separate charges and running a campaign based on revenge? >> well, i think what people are saying is they are very happy with what joe biden did, but they look at the sort of energy that trump has behind him in the republican base and even a broader record than that. and they are worried that he is not doing well against joe biden because joe biden is perceived as what he is, which is old. -- >> and so donald trump! >> if i younger democrat who are running, they would be beating the hell out of donald trump. >> i don't know about that. >> joe biden said he would be a transitional president, he said that explicitly. so why isn't he? >> he got a ton done in the last four years -- >> why not look at somebody else? >> let's talk about the circus last night, the grand finale, some crazy stuff went down. and i want to share this exchange with steve bannon. >> president trump is a moderate in our movement. in future years he would wish donald trump was around. >> you are a maga lawyer -- here is what he suggested where the top priorities for trump's attorney general, one, fire the deep straight state branch, number three deport 10 million people. detain people. pardon every january 6th defendant. what do you think about this? >> i think it's fantastic. >> look, okay, that sounds significantly scarier than joe biden said he was gonna be transitional, doesn't it? >> i agree 100%, for sure, yes. and it is not explainable to me that donald trump would be able to be joe biden. and i think ultimately that he will be found, he will be convicted on one or more of these accounts. and i think ultimately, joe biden can and should prevail. but i also think it is baked taking a big risk. >> connor, what will it take for people to take these kinds of threats, whether it is from steve bannon or donald trump himself seriously? >> well, i think there is good news and bad news. the bad news that i have concluded from all my time in office and being back in my district is that it's really art to reach your average person with things like steve bannon just said or things that donald trump has been saying. i mean, the impeachment, all the different things that trump did when he was in office, they will just have no impact back in my district with average people. but i think the effect of them is going to be felt on some of these third-party candidates, some of the moderate republicans who are in office and have maybe spoken out against trump before, but now seem to want to criticize biden a lot. those are the people who i think are gonna need to really check their consciousness as the year goes on because they are experienced enough to understand exactly what those policies, that tim just brilliantly laid out, and how it's gonna change this country forever. it would not just make things worse but it would change the character of what we inherited from the people and who had made so sacrifices for us. and i think that's the group that really needs to listen right now and think about that. >> could dismantle democracy. i also want to take a listen to a conversation that tim miller had with kari lake of arizona. this was a wow for me. watch this. >> you say you care about the fentanyl crisis -- >> i care deeply. >> you care deeply about this, but couldn't you actually do something about it? if he stops the shot about the last election, if you just acknowledge that trump had lost, and that you have lost, you probably might be in good shape to do something. you probably would have won your governor's race, and you just talk about things people care about instead of these election lies. i wish i could just talking about this type thing that donald trump made me make up so that i could actually talk about the stuff that is important. >> isn't that the maga movement in a nutshell? >> it really is! i mean, god bless tim miller for telling the truth there. >> right to her face! >> it was great, and he was great with us on the circus. we really appreciated his input. you know, the interview with bannon and with kari lake, as you said earlier in the segment, believe them when they tell you who they are. and it is astonishing. you know, i mean, steve bannon talked about -- they intent on having the largest deportation in history. they intend to deport 10 million people. >> oh my gosh. connor, last word to you? >> i just think everyone should remember years ago in 2015 or 2016 when steve bannon said every day that i can get the democrats talking about immigration, race, and diversity will happen all the way because he believes that there is a sort of a large base of people that cares prou econoy not agree on racial issues and immigration and all the rest. like i said, i think all of these issues are very important, and they should really make people in positions of power think hard about what side they are on. but ultimately the reason you see biden and his team focused so much on bidenomics as much as you can make fun of it is they know economics ultimately. and i think they're doing a good job saving themselves off the grid. >> let's remember, almost every economist out there one year ago said they will be in a deep recession today. inflation is still a problem. life is expensive, no doubt. but we are certainly not in a recession. take a look at unemployment, still below 4%. conor lamb, mark mckinnon, again, congratulations on the circus. if you have not seen the finale, there is a hard show waiting for you on showtime. coming up, despite the death and destruction that comes along with war, tonight, we have a very different message, a message of unity. we will speak to two peace activist about their mission, when the 11th hour continues. hour continues meet the traveling trio. the thrill seeker. the soul searcher. and - ahoy! it's the explorer! each helping to protect their money with chase. woah, a lost card isn't keeping this thrill seeker down. lost her card, not the vibe. the soul searcher, is finding his identity, and helping to protect it. hey! oh yeah, the explorer! she's looking to dive deeper... all while chase looks out for her. because these friends have chase. alerts that help check. tools that help protect. one bank that puts you in control. chase. make more of what's yours. inez, let me ask you, you're using head and shoulders, right? 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you are asking for the most basic thing and people don't want to hear it. >> well, we are trying to put forward a message of humanity, a message of partnership, a message of israeli palestinian peace. and we are saying to all those that don't like our message, that are calling us traitors, that what we are doing is the most patriotic thing possible in this reality, to demand israeli palestinian peace, demand the end of occupation and the end of the status quo of wars again and again and again, that will bring us security, and doesn't bring prosperity to the people both in palestine and in israel. >>, sally you are a palestinian israeli. what has this month been like for you? >> well, stephanie, and this month has been extremely hard on all of us. as part of the israeli society and as a palestinian, you know, we are looking at yet another front of the war with israeli society where we are really witnessing very heavy political persecution of palestinians within israel. my identity, my any kind of expression of solidarity with palestinians in gaza has been criminalized. and, really, we are fighting. as alon-lee said, we are fighting over humanity at the moment, and really trying to hold the humanity of both peoples because we understand that if we are unable to do that, we also want to be able to envision a place where we actually can move forward from here. and when we talk about peace, it is really not a naive word to actually just talk about lovey dovey piece. but the very deep understanding that we are at an intersection where we understand that this thing that got us to this place, to this catastrophic trauma for both peoples, can no longer be sustained. and really, controlling millions of people militarily for decades is just not sustainable. and we really need to move into a different direction. >> but, alon-lee, it's not that piece is lovey dovey, or the idea of it being naive. we cannot forget that there was a cease fire in place before hamas attack. and it is extremely difficult to negotiate with terrorists, which is what they are. what solution allows israel to defend itself, and at the same time, protect palestinian lives? does that solution even exist right now? what does it look like? >> so, we need to understand that this is not the first war between israel and hamas. we had actually 16 military operations in the last decade and a half between israel and gaza. and every time, they promised us in our government that this time, it's gonna work, this time it's going to bring security to the israeli people. and we say that the only way to achieve security, the only way to really defend the israeli people, both palestinian citizens of israel, and jewish citizens of israel's to break out of this status quo, this paradigm that is -- putting a blockade over gaza, strengthening hamas, because that's what the israeli government has been doing for a decade and a half, and weakening the palestinian authority. so what we are saying is that we need a different paradigm, a paradigm where all people are free, where all people are equal, where people can live actually a good life, a secure life, a quiet life. and this does not happen when you have a government on our side that refuses to negotiate peace with the palestinians, that refuses to put an end to the settlements. and we say that it is a very, very important thing to understand that whenever israel destroys a full neighborhood in gaza, whenever israel kills a family of 30 people, it threatens hamas. it makes them stronger because they are feeding on extremism. they are feeding off of this terrible reality where people on both sides are just fed with hatred. and it's not bringing a security, even this time, this war is not going to end with a better reality. who's gonna control the gaza strip? israel is promising us that, you know, the idf is going to conquer gaza strip, and you have a second west bank in gaza. is this going to bring a security? >> sally, how much did hamas attack damage the real ambitions of the palestinian people? >> i really think that as palestinian people, and really, as a movement of palestinian liberation, we really need to recognize the very fact that hamas is a catastrophic leadership for the palestinian people and for the prospect of peace and liberty and freedom of the palestinians. and in many ways, this is a defining moment for people. obviously, you know, the people in gaza have very little leverage to resist their own leadership right now. but we do have a responsibility, as palestinians within israel, palestinians in the west bank, palestinians in the diaspora, to actually take this moment and define what kind of resistance, what kind of movement do we want, what kind of justified struggle are we having for freedom and to end the occupation. and it is definitely not hamas. >> thank you both for being here tonight and talking about your work. i approach i appreciate it -- alon-lee green and sally abed. when we come back, one of the biggest takeaways from last week's election for democrats, get abortion on the ballot in 2024. we will speak to an activist in florida trying to do exactly that, when the 11th hour continues. ♪ ♪ ♪ i have type 2 diabetes, but i manage it well. ♪ ♪ jardiance ♪ ♪ it's a little pill with a big story to tell. ♪ ♪ i take once-daily jardiance, ♪ ♪ at each day's staaart. ♪ ♪ as time went on it was easy to seee. ♪ ♪ i'm lowering my a1c. ♪ jardiance works 24/7 in your body to flush out some sugar! and for adults with type 2 diabetes and known heart disease, jardiance can lower the risk of cardiovascular death, too. jardiance may cause serious side effects including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, that can lead to sudden worsening of kidney function, and genital yeast or urinary tract infections. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking jardiance and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, ketoacidosis, or an allergic reaction, and don't take it if you're on dialysis. taking jardiance with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. ♪ jardiance is really swell, ♪ ♪ the little pill with a big story to tell. ♪ when you're ready to begin treatment for chronic lymphocytic leukemia, calquence helps you do the fighting. and you can do the exploring. you can do the splashing... ...the sightseeing... ...and the playing. calquence is an oral targeted therapy for cll. more patients begin with calquence than any treatment of its kind, and calquence is proven to work better than chemoimmunotherapy in patients with previously untreated cll. calquence may cause serious side effects, which may lead to death. these include serious infections with fever, chills, or flu-like symptoms; and bleeding problems that may increase with blood thinners. decreased blood counts are common and can be severe. new cancers have happened, including skin cancers. heart rhythm problems with fast or irregular heartbeat, dizziness, feeling faint, chest discomfort, or shortness of breath, have happened. tell your doctor if you have bleeding, heart rhythm, or liver problems; infection, or if you are or plan to be pregnant or breastfeeding. calquence helps you do the fighting. and you can focus on the things you're loving. ask your doctor if calquence is right for you. 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>> florida is a different, time and time again when you put this issue to the voters they show up for abortion access. we know that this isn't a partisan decision, it is a personal decision. i think that is something that ohio's results made incredibly clear the other night. so we know if we can qualify this initiative for the ballot in florida, we can win this. >> here is what republicans have been recently saying about abortion. watch this. >> i am 100% pro-life. i have had 100 percent pro life voting record. i would certainly as president of the united states have a 15-week national limit. i would not allow states like california, illinois, or new york to have abortion up until the day of birth. >> a pregnant woman walking down the, street she is assaulted, the unborn child dies in that assault. you find me one person in this country who says that criminal does not deserve a liability for that death. >> let's find consensus. let's agree on how we can ban mobile shuns. >> listen, we all are passionate about this issue, and it is confusing right now. but in a time of consensus, can't we agree on reasonable limitations that 15 weeks? 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>> yeah, i think we have seen time and time again that support of abortion access show up for these campaigns. the reality is 84,000 people a year rely on abortion here in the state of florida, and we are in a public health crisis in the southeast. there's nowhere for these patients to go. so i believe that all of the folks who have said time and time again after the overturn of roe v. wade that they are going to do everything they can to fight for abortion access, or going to shop to make this happen in florida. there are too many lives on the line for this not to be on the ballot in 2024. >> since last week's election, since the results in ohio, since people showed up to protect abortion rights, have you seen more support for your effort in florida? what has happened to you? >> we have. so there's a few things that have been really exciting. first and foremost, we have collected about 180,000 petitions for volunteers, and we are seeing a huge influx right now. if you are florida registered voter, i have to ask you to visit floridians predicting freedom.com to turn your petition into us. we are also seeing commitments from major donors, and grassroots donations. in the past two weeks since ohio, we have been able to raise over $100,000 from grassroots contributors. so every cent that is coming in right now matters from $1 donors to 1 million dollar donors. >> the attorney general in florida wants to stop you. how is that going to work? 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she also has out compliment cards with instructions to join the squad, to help spread smiles, kindness, and human connection. and we will leave you with our producer mike sons harry and tommy, who are here to remind us that it cost absolutely nothing to be kind. so right now, you might be awning, you might be rolling rising this is silly, it is goofy, it is romantic, it is naive, it is not. because the power of love and kindness, is everything. so i ask you, spread some kindness this week. on that no, i wish you a very good night. all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late with us. i will see you at the end of tomorrow.