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and what they think must be done to protect muslims and choose here, as well as what they think about what's going on in israel. i've made my positions clear. i want to hear from them. so it's gonna be an interesting conversation, since i have both of them on to express their views. >> this is gonna be good. i'll be watching, rev. take it away. >> thank you. thank you, simone. and good evening, and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead, election count down. , election count down >> today marks exactly one year until the 2024 election, a new polling from the new york times paints a grim picture for president biden's reelection prospects. donald trump, the twice impeached, repeatedly indicted former president's pulling ahead of biden in five of six key battleground states. even as he heads back to court tomorrow in his new york fraud trial. i'll talk to biden's -- campaigns, communications director ahead. but first, there's also an election on tuesday, with abortion on the ballot in ohio and several southern governors races up for grabs. the results are certain to be a hot topic at the next republican presidential primary debate, hosted by nbc news wednesday evening. along with the domestic fallout from the israel hamas war in the middle east. the conflict now fueling concerns for the safety of jewish arab and muslim communities in the u.s.. the heads of america's largest jewish and muslim civil rights groups join me tonight. another intense week ahead. another in-depth politicsnation show for you tonight. here we go. joining me now, congresswoman joyce bailey, democrat of ohio, and former chair of the congressional black caucus. congresswoman, we thank you for joining us. let me start with some grim numbers for president biden. exactly one year out from election day 2024. new polling from the new york times and -- finds the president trailing donald trump in a hypothetical matchup in five of six key battleground states. pennsylvania, arizona, georgia, nevada, and michigan. biden underperforms even again eric democrat in those states. what's your response to these numbers? >> i think we're all looking at those numbers, but we know that we still have until next year for the election. it's not surprising. we've seen this historically before, where the president to win, whether that was previous presidents, have had lower numbers at this point, but i'm very confident when you look at the record, the record of what president biden has done, that those numbers will change. we have so many issues right now that the country is faced with. but if you look at what this president has done, and his track record, i am not only very comfortable, but confident that this president will again prevail. >> the poll finds biden standing has fallen across most demographic groups. but especially young people and black and hispanic voters. what do you think is driving those declines, and what can be done about it, congresswoman? >> i think we have to do more in telling our story. the one thing about democrats, we're so used to just look working and getting the job done. i don't think we have done all that we can do to share what he's done. i mean, think about it. we're in a global pandemic, and he got us through it. think about the infrastructure. when we don't time -- tied these things back to the things young folks use all the time. when you think about jobs, when you think about the number of women, and especially black and brown women, that he has appointed to positions, we've done more and housing with secretary marshall fudge. we've done more across the country than any other president for some of the same people who don't realize the benefits. so if there's something we must change, it's telling our story. it's making them understand when we look at what we're accomplishing, whether it's in housing or education or the economy. we have to do a better job, because we have a track record that i will stand up against anyone's track record, and especially those republicans who are running for election. >> we've been talking about 2024, but there is an election in two days, and it's critically important. voters in your state of ohio will be deciding on a constitutional amendment to protect reproductive rights. republican lawmakers have been trying every trick in the book to defeat this initiative. they even change the language on the ballot, replacing the term fetus with the where it unborn child. >> yes. >> are you confident ohioans will turn out insufficient numbers to ensure this motion passes successfully? >> let me tell you, i've been home today. i voted early. our numbers are good, better than i had anticipated in an off year presidential election. we know what's at stake. and when you talk about what it's doing to women's reproductive rights, what the state of ohio, especially, those in the majority, my republican colleagues, it's awful what they're trying to do. setting us back more than 110 years. we fought too hard for this. i can tell you we understand their tricky language and what it's doing to reproductive rights for women. whether you're seeking an abortion because of rape or incest, or the mother's life at jeopardy. that's not for politicians to decide. that's a choice that we should have within our own women's rights. so women are coming out and encouraging people to come out and vote, because our voice is our power. we were very successful in the last election when republicans tried to be tricky again and change the language to make us need more than 50% or a majority to make a constitutional change. this was directed exactly at what we're facing now. directed at women's reproductive rights and our choice. >> the new republican speaker, mike johnson, was on fox news this morning defending his stand-alone bill tying israel aid to cuts in the irs. he also stood by his financial disclosures, which according to the daily beast, do not list a signal -- single bank account or asset going back seven years. and you are view, is speaker mike johnson a leader democrats can trust to work with an important issues like military aid or spending? after all, we have another government shutdown looming in less than two weeks. >> here's what i know. we don't know a lot about him, but what we do know means we'd better keep one eye open, and when i close. because he can be very dangerous. when you look at -- funding, i think it's very dangerous to have an offset, or to say we're gonna give monies here for humanitarian reasons to israel, for example. but what will happen, what he's trying to do is not only make cuts with the irs. he'll put them in a very dangerous position to always happen offset. when you have emergencies and you need the dollars like we need now for israel, you don't want to put a hawk -- hook in it that you get these dollars if you do this. i think that's a very dangerous position for the american people. another reason you need to vote. when someone doesn't reveal their tax records, i believe it means you have something to hide. i think that tells you what i think about the speaker. one eye open, when i closed. >> all right. thank you, congresswoman joyce beatty. let's shift now to the war between israel and hamas and the political and social fallout here in the u.s.. later in the show, i'll talk to the executive director of the council of american islamic relations, but first, joining me now is anti-defamation league president jonathan greenblatt. thank you for joining me today. jonathan, the fbi has a new warning about what they say is a heightened threat of hamas inspired terror attacks the u.s.. the organization put out a report last week documenting a 400% increase in antisemitic incidents in the past month. can you talk about the situation you're seeing on the ground right now? >> thank you for having me, rev. sure. we've never seen a moment like this since the atl was founded. we've seen -- i shouldn't call it a wave. it's more like a tsunami of antisemitic attacks. vandalism, violence targeting jewish americans. i want to be clear. not israelis. although that would be wrong. not, you know, people in idf uniforms, although that would be wrong, rev. we're talking about, quote unquote, the zionist businesses. how ridiculous is that? >> but a café owned by a jewish family on long island, and ice cream parlor owned by jewish people in san francisco. a restaurant owned by jewish people in the midwest. being tagged, being vandalized, being desecrated. it's inexcusable, and on our college campuses, it is off the charts. jewish kids getting targeted and victimized, getting bullied and harassed and assaulted at harvard, at columbia, at many other universities across the country. >> let me stop you right there. let me start right there. i know cornell university canceled classes friday after junior engineering student was -- for alleged antisemitic threats. -- across the country cing calls from lawmakers and religious leaders to combat antisemitism on campus. and i'll be talking about islamophobia as well. there's been an increase. but let me ask you, what concrete actions would you like to see these institutions take to protect jewish students while also respecting free speech? because that's where the problem comes in. >> well, it shouldn't be a problem. making death threats against jewish students, to rape tuition women, and slit the throats of jewish men's happening at cornell. that isn't free speech, that's a crime. rev, we need to move from cancel culture, for perceived microaggressions, to consequence culture. when you threatened someone or intimidate someone, that should not be allowed in a workplace, on a college campus, anywhere. so what are concrete steps? number one, programs need to address racism and seeing a phobia and antisemitism. there's no excuse for a college not to address antisemitism. by the way, an anti zionist summit -- antisemitism, as well as classic anti-summit chisholm. it's all the same. >> go to number two, and i'm asking my next question. >> to, these student organizations that are taking cues from hamas, unknown terror organization, look, you're not allowed to promote i.s.i.s.. you're not allowed to give material support to al-qaeda. you shouldn't do it for hamas. hamas has the blood on its hands of the dozens of americans who were killed on october the 7th. the scores of americans who are kept and kidnapped, bound and gagged in tunnels right now under gaza. this isn't just aguero against the jews, although for hamas that is. it's also a war against america, rev. and that's wrong by any definition. >> biden administration has laid out a new national strategy to combat islamophobia. arab americans support for biden has plummeted 42 points since the last election, down to just 17% in a new poll released by the arab american institute. you've been a strong advocate for the jewish community. but you also work with the leaders of different faiths, such as myself and others, to take a stand against hate. what are the areas, if any, of common ground right now? >> look, in 2016, when president trump talked about a muslim registry, i stood up -- i'll be the first to register as a muslim if he does that. because that was wrong. and i've consistently spoken out against islamophobia, anti-muslim hate, including that young muslim child who was killed in plain view in him illinois last week. absolutely wrong. i stand up against anti muslim hate, drive, because it's the right thing to do. but we need the muslim community, including our next guest, to speak out against all forms of antisemitism as well. i'm glad the administration is gonna come up with a plan, but we need them to implement the antisemitism chat strategy, because of, a world in which people are targeted and persecuted because of how they pray, right? or who they worship, is wrong, and right now, the anti zionist, antisemitism, going after jewish kids, making them unsafe in the places where they study, the shops where they work, there is no excuse. and i will -- >> let me push you on that. let me follow up on that. our israeli friends in -- gaza appears to be intensifying. this will likely became a part of our political reality for the foreseeable future. what kind of steps will your organization take to get a positive dialogue and ensure attitudes and hearts do not harden as this drags on? just like i was outraged on october 7th in calling you on television, saying that you cannot use innocent civilians, jews for collaborative damage. i'm also -- i find it deplorable what is going on with children in gaza. let me finish. president obama, former president obama, you worked in the obama administration. he has said, what about what has gone on in gaza? what is going on? we cannot have a sliding morality. if we are against civilians that we killed in israel, we should also be against his a billions being killed in gaza. >> correct, and the president, my former boss, he's entitled to academic musings on a podcast. right, now we need moral clarity in the real world. thank god joe biden is our president. to your question, this war was initiated, rev, by hamas. people were butchered and murdered in israel by hamas. hamas has hiding behind human shields. gaza is an open air prison, and hamas is the warden. here's what i would say, and keep this in mind, ask your next guest. this could end tomorrow if hamas returned the hostages, if hamas said we will lay down our arms and negotiated peace deal with israel. reverent, this would end like that if they would simply do the right thing. >> what about those -- what about those that have asked for a cease-fire, or even the biden administration saying a humanitarian pause? if hamas -- and i'll ask my next guest. if he won't do something, netanyahu is saying no to biden. he's bearing down. where do we try to stop innocent people from being killed in gaza? children. >> if hamas would say we will return in the hostage is, i don't think there is any world in which holding elderly people hostage, holding disabled people, holding infants and children hostage. if they return the hostages, this would end. i believe in a cease fire after hamas makes the commitment to return the hostages. by the way, imagine this for a minute. imagine if americans were taken hostage in mexico. do you think america would hold back? you think they would wait and work it out? america would say that any country on planet earth who would say, give us back our children. give us back our elderly. give us back our people. in black churches across america, they say let my people go. the jewish people, the story of exodus, let my people go. to hamas, i say reverend, you hear this loud and clear. let my people go. >> all right, i will raise some similar questions. i am having very serious concerns on both sides. thank you for being with us as always, jonathan greenblatt. we will keep fighting in the united states. coming up, election day is tuesday. do you know it's on the ballot in your community? 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>> first of all i will say that every poll is it snapchat in time -- in the race in 20 -- i believe there is the new york times themselves having headline at the stage of the race, is obama toast? new york times is also the same outfit that was predicting the red wave in 2022 in october. they had folks like daniel -- before she went on to win about five percentage points. i won't put too much stalk into any pulls a year out from the election. i do think that if you want to look at indicators of how voters are going to behave on election day, the best indicator is how they are actually voting right now. we have had not only the most historic midterm election cycle for a president in generations, we have had about a few dozen special elections since those midterms where democrats continue to overperform by an average of 11%. the reason that they are doing so is because they are campaigning on the same values, the same message that president biden and vice president harris have campaigned on, both in 2020 and the democrats campaigned on in 2022. we are going to continue to keep our foot on the gas. as you mentioned earlier, we have important elections coming up on tuesday. for folks that live in virginia, kentucky, they should definitely go to iowa vote.com and make sure they know where they are voting on tuesday. if your question is, is there a sense of urgency in this campaign? the answer is absolutely yes. >> as you talk about this sense of urgency, what we are talking about the battleground states in this part polling, new york times polling, michigan has the highest percentage of arab americans in the country. wisconsin also has a significant muslim population in both states. close to biden's 2020 margin of victory, support for the president has nosedived in the arab communities since the start of the israel-hamas war, for nearly 60% three years ago, to just 17% today. last, year the white house announced new steps to combat islamophobia, and called for humanitarian pause in gaza. what further outreach needs to be done in order to get arab americans back on board with the president? >> yes, as it relates to the crisis in gaza right now, i think that it is important to remember that the president approaches this not as a politician, but as the commander in chief and leader of our country. that's why he's been cleared from day one, if israel has a right to defend itself, and also how they defend themselves does in fact matter. it is why he has been adamant that humanitarian assistance continues to flow into gaza. it's why he's been adamant that here at home, islamophobia and antisemitism aren't allowed to take root. unfortunately, we have seen from our opponents on the other side, folks like donald trump have not taken up that same mantle. they've taken it as an opportunity to fan the flames of islamophobia. when you're not busy praising hezbollah, or throwing allies under the bus, he is talking about doing things like reinstating a muslim ban, which would obviously do absolutely nothing to keep us safer at home, and would certainly do nothing to aid our allies and the time of war. and only further serve to dehumanize and demonize palestinians and palestinian americans here at home that deserve to be treated with dignity and respect for similar to every other person in this country. that contrast is going to be on the ballot, and those values are going to be the values that this president's administration continues to lead with throughout the crisis. it's going to be true in michigan and around this country. >> let's turn to black voters. some democrats have been sounding alarms about a drop in enthusiasm from but voting bloc that helped deliver the election to biden in 2020. research shows the democrats have lost support in the midterms from younger black voters, black man, and those without college degrees. these are actual voters, as you say bowling shows that trump gained. ground with black and hispanic voters, which is something that i don't understand, but that is the polling and data. i get calls on my radio show that have given a lot of money to ukraine, money in the middle east, but what is happening to us on the ground? how concerned are you worried about the messaging of what you are doing, getting to black voters? i had congresswoman beaty on earlier today,that she thinks pe problem is messaging. is it messaging? what is the message? me >> yes, i entered the part of the conversation. i think that she's absolutely right. this president's administration has done tremendous work for the black community. and so it is a incumbent upon us as a campaign to do the job of talking about those accomplishments. you have record low unemployment, historic investments into hbcus, seven billion dollars in hbcus. you have got the fastest rate of black small business creation in a generation here. it is incumbent upon us to communicate that over the course of the next year for the community. when they go to the ballot box, they need to understand precisely what this administration has done. will they take black voters for granted? the answer is absolutely not. we've lost a 25 million dollar ad campaign that is obviously going to pale in comparison to everything we are doing next year. it is a down payment on the work that we are doing, importunes did you in season, including the black community. that investment is conclusive of the largest investment of black and hispanic media. we are focused on laying the groundwork, talking precisely about the historic record accomplishment that this administration has. when folks cast their ballot next year, they know exactly what it is for this administration that has done for them in their communities. they will understand the choice between this historic record of accomplishment and the work that the maga republicans want to do the show roll back the progress that we've been able to do over the course of the past few years. >> right there on, that one criticism for black americans and others is that they simply don't know the president has done for them. the administration is tried to use the concept bidenomics to have economic successes. voter research suggests americans do not know what the concept means, and many don't feel that financially secure. how can the campaign improve on this message? we just saw what the supreme court ruling against affirmative action, we saw right-wing activists going after things like -- wanting the stops blacks from even being able to help form businesses. they're going after dei. where is the aggressive pushback from the administration when you see the ei brokers, contracts for black business people not jeopardized by your political opponents. but you're not talking about that. >> yes, as it relates to bidenomics, that's exactly right. it's not just about the accomplishments themselves. it is about the why. when this president took office back in january of 2021, we faced a historic crisis. we had the worst public health crisis of our lifetimes. we had the worst economic crisis since the great recession. they took action. it wasn't just an opportunity to correct for the acute pain that we were feeling, but an opportunity to account for generations of harm being done to our communities. generations of disinvestment from black communities. all of those accomplishments we referenced earlier, is not a byproduct of what this president wants to accomplish. he had this community in mind when he took action. it's true when it comes to the economy, is true when it comes to the freedom to which he continues to fight for. that is what is going to be on the ballot in 2024. we are going to make that case very loudly and clearly over the course of the next 12 months. we are excited to do so, because it's incredibly important. >> new hampshire is poised to present an early dilemma for the biden campaign this year. the state is pushing ahead with these plans for democratic primaries, and as early as january. even after the dnc approved a calendar movingsouth carolina to the first spot. president biden will not be on the new hampshire ballot. supporters have launched a effort, in part because of the challenge of congressman dean phillips. focusing heavily on the state, what are your thoughts on all of this? biden is not on the ballot, phillips gets a headline that he won new hampshire. does that hurt your plans? >> the president is committed to following the rules that the democratic national committee has put into place. that means that south carolina will be holding the first nation primary on february 3rd. this campaign is going to be focused on that. what is happening in new hampshire is going to have no bearing on how we conduct ourselves in the primary. no bearing on the success of this campaign as we head into the general election. we are going to remain laser focused on our path to two 70, and contrasting this presidents historic record of accomplishment with the republicans that want to rollback the progress that we have made. that's with this election is going to be about. it's going to be a chase between president biden and whoever emerges from the community. that's where we're going to be messaging over the next 12 months. michael, before we let you go, what are you going to be looking for on tuesday when we see the election day, some of these key states having serious elections? ohio, mississippi, so forth. kentucky. what are you going to be looking for? what are you going to be looking for those bellwether indications? and you being in the campaign. >> we are excited for people to take the opportunity to go out and make their voices heard. we've got some incredible candidates running across the country, virginia, kentucky, mississippi. they are running against candidates who are fully embraced with maga extremism. we are excited about another opportunity to push back against this maga extremism. i would just simply take the opportunity once again to encourage people to go to iowa vote.com and make sure where the polling location is, casting their ballot on tuesday will polls are open. >> all right, thank you for being with us tonight. we will be watching, and i'm sure that we will be talking to you again. thank you for being with us, michael tyler, the communications director for biden 2024. coming up, the war between israel and hamas has had a considerable impact on america's muslim community. i'll speak with the head of the council of american islamic relations about the shift in politics. the fears about islamophobia, and how all faiths continue their common stand against hate. that is next. that is next ♪ ♪ we're building a better postal service. for more on-time deliveries. and easier, affordable ways to ship. so you can deliver even more holiday joy. the united states postal service. delivering for america. right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. 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why are we allowing our government, and the state of israel to commit these atrocities against innocent people? i myself and a palestinian, i'm a refugee. my land and home were stolen from us, and we were ethnically cleansed. >> let me push you right on the point of people now. i am outraged looking at children being killed, as i was on october 7th, what happened in israel. in fact, in an interview posted yesterday from barack obama, reflecting on the war. take a listen to this. >> you can speak one side of the truth. in some cases, you can try and maintain your moral innocence. that will not solve the problem. if you want to solve the problem, you have to take in the entire truth. you then have to admit that nobody's hands are clean. that all of us are complicit to some degree. >> what is your reaction to what president obama had to say? >> he is speaking the truth. we have been told lies for ages. even young jewish americans are, many -- of them are telling their leaders, you lied to us about what israel is doing. the growing number of jewish americans identifying the set of israelis in the apartheid system, and they were not supported. yesterday, i was at this historic rally in support of the palestinian people. i saw so many rabbis, so many jewish colleagues to believe there should be a cease-fire. israel should not get away, literally with murder. >> let me ask you this. let me ask you this. do you feel like there is any way to influence hamas in releasing the hostages? i heard a said on the show tonight, if they released the hostages, israel would agree to a cease-fire. is there a way that you see that happening? >> none of us speak for gaza, and they are fighting on path for the palestinians. let me say this. israel holds 8000 hostages. they have taken 1000 hostages in the past weeks from gaza and from the west bank. there is no hamas in gaza. israel has been killing palestinians. they've released orders to confiscate palestinian homes and kick them out because they are not jewish. intimidating them -- they have many children -- >> but 200 odd hostages are what i am addressing. i hear you have expanding it i'm just trying to see how we stop the killing on both sides. nihad, -- >> immediate cease fire. the united states has the power, has the leverage, and has the responsibility. a moral duty on behalf of americans, 66% of americans believe the united states should call for a cease-fire. why is our administration and elected officials not heeding the call? if there is a cease-fire, definitely a withdrawal from gaza, a hostage exchange and prisoner exchange should be there. through peace talks, based on justice. not only in the interest of the state of israel, can lead us to a much better situation. >> all right, i will have to leave it there. good to see you again, nihad awad. think you for being on. up next, final thoughts, stay with us. sta with us. did i get anything this year? get a free, $30 e-gift card at chewy. i'm still going to eat your socks. no you're not. get great deals on gifts that deliver excitement at chewy. oh... stuffed up again? so congested! you need sinex saline from vicks. just sinex, breathe, ahhhh! what is — wow! sinex. breathe. ahhhhhh! this is american infrastructure, a prime target for cyberattacks. but the same ai-powered security that protects all of google also defends these services for everyone who lives here. ♪ have you ever thought of getting a walk-in tub for everyone for you or someone you love? now is a great time to take a look at getting a safe step walk-in tub. with safe step's standard heated seat and new fast fill faucet, you can enjoy a nice warm bath up to 20% faster! and the convenient touch pad control is right at your fingertips. each tub comes standard with a dual hydrotherapy system. the ten water jets can help, increase mobility, relieve pain, boost energy, and improve sleep. while the microsoothe advanced air therapy system oxygenates and softens skin. safe step walk-in tubs are built to maximize safety. so you can stay in your home and enjoy the comforts of bathing again. so call now for more information and a free no obligation consultation. call now to receive our best offer of the year! a free shower package plus $1,600 off! with the purchase of your brand-new safe step walk-in tub. we're traveling all across america talking to people about their hearts. ooh, take this exit. how's the heart? 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