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Meanwhile, President Trump talkednew of restarting the economy, but said he will listen to his health advisers. John yang begins our coverage. Yang at the enof the week that officials predicted would be t height of the crisis, D Anthony Fauci said things ar improving. Were starting to see the leveling off and coming down. Yang but he cautioned that whenev restrictions are relad, coronavirus cases are likely to increase. When we decide at a proper time when were going to be relaxing some of the restrictions, theres no doubt youre going to see cases. I would be so surprised if you did not see cases. The question is how you respond to them. Yang President Trump said a new task force would be formed to get the nation back to business as soon and as safely as possible. Were going to go back to were looking at a date, were hoping well be able to fulfill a certain day but weane not doing ything until we know this country is healthy. Yang in hardhit new york, for the First Time Since the beginning the outbreak, the state reported a net decline in intensive care unit admissions today, mirroring pattern also seen in another hot spot california. Governor gavin newsom warned its not time yet for the state to let its guard down. Lets continue to hold the lii and lets just do t together. Give us a few more weeks to see dhere these trend lines go an the end well be talking a lot yang in los an mayor Eric Garcettis order took effect mandating that shoppers wear masks in places like grocy stores and pharmacies an effort to protect essential retail workers. Ovnight, frontline workers were honored in cities like new york, dallas and chicago, which lit up their skylines in blue. In washington, d. C. , which is bracing for a likely surge in churches to move Easter Services online. I want to thank all of our faith communities and religious leaders who are heing save online and encouraging memberss of their congregations to celebrate from home. Yang from australia to the philippines many faithful turned to online good friday services, including the mass pancis said in a mostly empty st. Peters basilica. Parishioners took things off line. Gathering at a drivein movie theater, for a ceremony that, en with worshippers in their vehicles, brought the feeling of togetherness they had been yearning for. translated in the current times, this is a unique opportunity to be with t werish inste of at home. He itine their cars, and we thinks amazing to have the chance to celebrate together. Certainly unforgettable. Yang meanwhile, European Union finance ministers agreed to a 0 billion package to combat the unprecedented economic fallout of the pandemic. For the pbs newshour, im john yang. Woodruff this week, thema democratic p effectively came to an end, as senator Bernie Sanders announced he is suspending his president ial campaign. The senator from vermont joins me now. Welcome to the newshour. R, senaou said, on wednesday, when you made the announcement, you were doing this, in part, because of the pandemic and, as you said, it would be difficult to cntinue under the circumstances. Today, you announced a proposal to arantee healthcare during this period. Who is this aimed at . Well, its aimed at the tens of millions of workers who are losing their jobs, judy, and, y wh lose your job, you lose your healthcare. So, on top of 87 Million People who are uninsured undensured before the crisis, youve got tens of millions more who are not going to ha any health insurance, and its my view that, in the midst of this terrible, terrible crisis, when people have so much to worry about, the least we can do is to say to all of those people, you ow what, you go to the doctor when youre sick, dont worhry about healthcare bills, medicare will fill in all the gaps and cover those people who are uninsured or und today. Red woodruff and do you have support for this among agatmoico cl support in the house, and i think youre going to see growing support in tnate, and i think that the cost is reasonable. It will be about 150 billion over four months, which, given everything that were dealing with, isot a lot of money. But to say to every amethrican , dont worry about the costs of healthcare, youre not going to have to payf it out o your own pocket, youre not going to have to pay forip preson drugs, i think that will take a huge burden off thed shs of so many of our people, and that is the very least that we should be doing right now. Talk about this election, what, oter 15 mont pouryourheartout cam pinning and this aft you spent years campaigning in 2016, you had to make this announcement that you didnt want to make. This is not where you wanted this to end but as you look back, what went right and what went wrong . Well, look, i thiank that wht went right is that, for all itents and purposes, judy, i think weve won the ideological battle. I think ideas that i fought fo four or five years ago which everybody considered to beem radical and exare now part of the mainstream discussion and, in fact, many are i implemented across the country raising minimumwage to 15 an hour, making Public Housing and university tuitionfr , forgiving student get, guaranteeing healthcare. Climate change, immigration reform, criminal justice reform, many ideas we brought foth which were originally rejected are now moving forward, and i think that is the best thing we have accomplished. Furthermore, we have won the generational struggle. We did very poorly and i dont know why, to tell you the truth with older peopl but have done phenomenally well with older people and, by that,e n people 45, 50 or younger, future of america. Hat is the so the ideas that we have fougho are gaining momentum among younger people and will be the policies that guide america in the future. Woodruff senator, i was numbers show you didnt do ase well with young people as you had 2n016. But what i want to ask you about is you are supporting at least you acknowledge joe biden will be the nominee, and, yet, youre going to co against him in the primaries to come. What is the value of tha no, were not competing against we dont theres no active campaigning, theres nothing to copete abut. Joe biden will, everything being equal, be the nominee. But i think my name will be on the ballot, thats the way is, in all of the remaining states that hold primaries t we would liget as many delegates as we can so that have a stronger position at the Democratic Convention to hlp us shape the new platform of the Democratic Party and the other which you say you want to shape appears from they last think it conventions, its what the nominee wants that ultimately matters. Right now, joe biden has moved in your direction. Ab hes talket lowering the age for medicare eligibility to0 hes talked about making Free College Tuition more available. But, at the same time, he is all. Not endorsed medicare for sherrod brown, liberal democrat, was on the show two nights ago and said he doesnt think joe biden is going to doat. Is that sufficient for you . Well, look, judy, what i said t the very fiy i began my campaign, i said, if i lose, i b withere to support the democratic winner, the person who wins the nomination because i think that donald trump is the most dangerousdent in the modern history of this country, around the winner defeatally trump, and thats certainly what i will do. But i hope, in the coming weeksn months, i will be working and my staff will beorking with joe biden and his team in making th j point that, e is going to do wel l againump and is going to defeat trump, then he isoing to have to reach out effectively to a whole lot of people where he has nt had the kind of support that he needs, and thats lowerincome people, that is younger people,s and oing to have to give those people the understanding that he hears them and hes moving to respond to their concerns, and th wat deaith climate change, it deals with making pubc colleges and universities tuitionfree. In my view it ,deals wi youre right, he is not going to support medicare for all a,nd i think there is a significant path forward for him to make sure that when so many people are losing their private insurance that the federal government will be there for them to cover their healthcare needs. Woodruff you have said that you mpaigned enthusiastically for Hillary Clinton four years ago. Will you do exactly the sae for joe biden . Will you be more enthusiastic . Beuse as you know Many Democrats look back and say they wished you had done more. Well, many decrats oppose men the democratic establishment from day one. All i can tell you is in2016 i worked as hard as i could to see trump was defeated and clinton was elected. Woodruff and will this year be different . This year, i will work as hard as i can to make sure dona trump is no reelected and joe biden becomes president. But i hope in the interval here, what we have got to dos you know, and i think joe biden is not only is he a decent guy, he is a good politician and he understands that for him to win, to get the voes that he needs, hes going to have to listen to and respond to theh needs of ale lot of people who have not been overly enusiastic about hisampaign up to now. Woodruff but you are saying you will beus enstically supporting him, a key decision that hes going to have to make, of course, is for vi h president. S said he will choose a woman. Let me ask you how your supporters would view it if he chose Elizabeth Warren . Well, i think i cant speo for almy suporters. All i can say is that i think the more progressive theia vice presidecandidate that he nominated, the better it would be rin tems of the kind of response that our suppoprer woulide him. Woodruff so if it were Amy Klobuchar . I cant speculate on that. You know, joe ivs going to hae to make that decisionlf him i have not been involved in that discussionwell see whahe does. Woodruff repub cans this we wisconsin took steps to take mres to prevent it making easier r people tovo , either to delay the election or make mail inn that is opposed by republicans at the national level. How concerned are you in nvo about accessoting for americans across the board . Judy, il will tu i dont know i have ever within a political context seen anyin republicans in the legislature in this country in their Supreme Court played in terms of this primary. What they essentially sad to ople is youre going to have to put your life on theine in order to cast a ballot, and that is just unbelievably disgraceful, and that is not what we can allow to happen in future elections. An it is a very, very high priority for mei think for many other democrats, as we go forward on the new piece of legislation and ive got a lot of ideas on that one but certainly onof the highest priorities must be to make sure country is to vote throughs a paper ballot in november. Re and thblicans, i must say, ar theypretty cle understand that if there is a large voter turnout they are not going to dl so wel and theyre fighting us. But i hope their spect for our constitution for demcyocill prevail and they understand people should not have to die or get sickan order to cast ballot. I should also tell you that ins te the new legislation, were working very hard not only to make sure all people have healthcare but people who continue to get their paychecks. I think that is the easiest, most efficient way to get us out of this Economic Disaster that were in right now, just making sure that every american continues to receive his or her paycheck will go a long way to lowing americans to have a decent standard of living as sis. As were in this cri final question and quickly, senator, who leads the progressive mement that Bernie Sanders started next . Who are the next leaders of your movement . Youre asking me to splai speculate. Im not much into speculation. But what i will say is, right now, literally, as we, spe have been on the phone with progressives all across this countrfiguring out the best way that we can keep our kind of unprecedented Grassroots Movement strong and growing. So we are a stong movement and history will determine what happens in the future, but right now, we are working hard to build that movement. Woodruff senator Bernie Sanders joning us tonight from vermont. Senator, thank you very much. Thank you, judy. Woodruff in the days other news, memb the opec oil cartel, along with russia and mexico, agreedo cut Global Production by up to 10 million that amounts to a tenth of the world oil supply, in an effort to boost oil prices an stabilize global oil markets. The price of crude o has fallen more than 50 since the u. S. Attorney general william barr says he believes the russia investation of President Trump and his campaign was a trasty. He gave that assessment during an interviewhat aired on fox news last night. And, he said the f. B. I. Never heould have begun the investigation inirst place. Without any basis, they started this investigation of y s campaign and even more concerning actua what happened after the campaign, the whole pattern of events while he was president so ie to sabotage esidency. Woodruff br gave no details, but he already ordered a review of how the russia probe investigation bega a Justice DepartmentInspector General has determined the f. B. I. Was justified in launching the probe. As the coronavirus pandemic Gains Momentum in africa, ebolai resurfaced todcongo. Health officials reported a man died after being infected. It was the first new case there in more than in seven weeks. And, it came just days before outbreak had ended. Are the it began in august 2018, and has killed more than 2,200 people. And, in east africa, vastsswarms of locre devastating crops and threatening millions of the first wave, weo, was the worst in 70 years. Now, a second wave 20 times bigger is sweeping across kenya and other countries. Bi ions of insects are filling fields and covering trees, threatening rural communities. Officials say restrictions related to the covid19 ndemic have delayed critical aerial toraying. Stilome on the newshour feeling the pain Small Businesses struggle to g Government Support before their business collapses. K holy wid a pandemic pope francis celebrates in a vacantv. Mark shields and david brooks analyze another week under social distance. And a recipe for coping with cookbook author ina garten. Woodruff the economic emergency thats tied directly to the pandemic is espy brutal for Small Businesses around the country. An incases, some owners are beginning to face questions this spring about whether theiran businessurvive. Amna nawaz has more on the store of troubles pere facing. Nawaz a sudden and complete drop in business has lt many businesses strugglinout sales or income. Help. As part of a two trillion dollar aid package signed into law by the president , nearly 350 billion will be used to ensure banks provide loans and loan forgeness for Small Businesses. But Small Business owners say they are having major trouble getting their loan applications moving through banks and t Small Business administration, or s. B. A. , which coordinates deralibution of those funds. Heres what a few Small Business owners shared with us. My name is justin moore. Im the general manager of uncle bobbies coffee and books in germantown, philadelphia. Like most retail spaces its been a bit of nightmare since the middle of last month. I guess the biggest pain point for me since we closed our doors has been worrying about everybodys wellbeing, not just from a health standpoint but financially as well. And we have these recurring expenses, these bills including rent and insurance that we have no way of being able to pay without some assistance by the s. B. A. Me my greg hunicutt and our company is hunnicutt houston, texas. D design in we bank with wells fargo. All they communicated to me after i registered was werere still noy to actually do the application process. And please dont contact us again my name is Travis Powell and i own the best western plus Frontier Motel in lone pine, california. Its a small town of 2,000 people and both of our banks,it r one of which is affiliated with the s. B. A. In any way. I sat wn and sent out either 32 applications and or contact forms filled out online. Ive heard back from about half of those and they all state the same thing that at this time were only servicing people with existing loans or existing necounts. My names chroslin and i have owned by salon since 2002. I called our, my husband and my bank. And i was told that there were over 400 applications and at this point i would be on a waitlist. I could get by clely this month and maybe next month. But i did tell my husbanthat if were out through may and into june, i might have to start looking for some sort of job. I am Jennifer Myers pulidore, owner of myers of keswick, a british specialty fore in greenwich village, manhattan, new york. And i have tried, i guess you can say, since fridail 3rd to apply for the s. B. A. Loan. Basically, the biggest challenge has been trying to actually get throd click submit so that i know that my application has gone through. Rapidly. Running out of money im in the process of using the care bt s w orto mfrroomy omfr to pay my employees for about at more. Theyre at part time right now being paid. We have four full time employees. We paid. I paid them for two weeks. That was two weeks ago were in week three now. I have not paid them this week. I understand that things are going to be slow because were dealin circumstances, but at this point kmost a month after weve closed i need sod of timetable at this point. You know, that youre kind of in a race to fill this out and get this applicati submitted and you think youre moving along and then boom, youet bumped out. So you wonder how many people actually got to click submit before you. And its very daunting. Ive lost a bit of sleep over it. Nawaz that loan program they mentioned is known as the paycheck protection program, or p. P. P. Businesses with fewer than 500 workers can quality. They can use that money to pay for up to two months of payroll, leases and utilities. And those los, in some cases, can be forgiven. Were going to talk through the details of that program and what businesses are facing right now with lisa desjardins, who joins me now. Lisa, you can hear in their voices the anxiety, the concern, the worry, how representative are some of those stories with whats happing across the board right now . Amna, i and our team have been talking to a lot of Small Businesses and thosare completely representative of whats happening. Theres a massive bottleneck in trying to get this money, ability to get it out. Not the the specific issues of whats happening, right at the front of it, banks are limiting these loans. That is, in paraut, bec some large corporate banks feel theyre under constraints and Smaller Banks worry about the Balance Sheet that they cant handle as much as volume as the demand entails. Part of this is banks are not guidance from the government as to exactly who qualifies for these loans, the nity gritty details theyeed they say theyre not getting. S so all of ths led to long wait, sometimes a wait just to get your application i, much less to knowf your application has been approved. Lisa, navigating a federal process even without a global ssndemic going on can be a frustrating pro how much of that bottleneck is due to the fact that this is u juprecedented . This kind of program at this kind of sca t . Yeats the right question. Absolutely, that is part of the problem. No one country no country, certainly not the u. S. Has ever before. Omething like this i want to convey what this program looks like, a sense of scope of all of this. So the total proam, as you reported, is about 349 billion in funding not been approved so far. Ju in the past two weeks that its been in existence, im told as of today some 151 billion has been approved for Small Businesses. All of last year the s. B. A. Loanedut ony 28 billion. So in the course of the last two weeks, theyve loan five times what they did all of last year. So this is unprecedented and its fair toto say theyre working as hard as they can. But, amna, there are others wh say the s. B. A. And congress themselves should have thought about this a month ago, six weeks ago when they knew an economic tsunami was coming. Lisa, here even in thest ies of the folks and the experiences, there is variation in their stories. You think about who had access to Capital Markets and financing, evengain, when pandics arent going on,u whether a minority or rural business, is any of the recovery effort gead towards evening out some of these inequities . No, noyet, and thats something thats really been discussed. I think that, right now, this is abuntested program, its not clear where the problems are, thats why were reporting on it right now. But you could hearn those stories the diversity of owner and salon owner who hadion applied and were just waiting in a very long line to hear from their banks, to travis, a hoel owner in Rural America, who really wasnt sure he could find v bank to support him because so many banks hae limited this loan only to current customers, and many banks in Rural Americar dont s. B. A. Loans, theyre not part of this process, usually. A so tt has left Rural America in a tougher position than others. So, lisa, what about congress . What are they workingn . Is there more potential help on the way . There is talk. A everyorees in washington more money is needed for this. Divide it. Ree about how to the president wants 250 billion more just in general for Small Businesses. Democrats tent it to be tar to community banks, especially the rural ones, and for disaster loans and assistance. But i want to givople a sense of how this works or where were at. So for Small Businesses, 48 of this nations workers work for Small Businesses, and of them told the National Federation of independent businesses, a major Small Business group, 90 said theyci are experi an impact from the coronavirus. Thats a huge surge in just the last couple of weeks. Moreover, ama, most said they dont think they could survive two months without help. Whats happening is this is a situation where there is an economic as much as a healthcare curve and if there is not help for these businesses just in the next couple of wee could see some businesses that feel they might have to turn to bankruptcy. So the time is very critical for many of these busines ts. Te is very critical. The help is critically needed, too. Us tonight. Dins, reporting for thanks, lisa. Youre welcome. Woodruff today, on good friday, the italian Prime Minister announced a further lockdown of his stricken nation until at least may 4th. And in israel, a nationwide stayathome order remains in effect. With empty streets in rome and the sacred sites of the old city of jerusalem, special castelfranco reports on a very different holy week. Rep vatican this year no faithful, no tourists, only the police making sure not a soreaks the rules. Everyone here must stay indoors to stop the spread of covid19. Authorities are taking no chances, and after weeks of lockdown appears torking eek the number of newly infected is declining. The streets of the eternal city lie empty, nearly devoid of life. Famous landmarks like the colosseum and e trevi fountain deserted. The vatican too has had a small number infected insiad its walls anted similar distancing measures. Ak as the crisis , pope francis delivered lastan extraordinary and stark urbi et orbi message, to rome and the world. translated we have realizede in the same boat, all of us fragile and disoriented, but at the same time, important and needed, all of us called to row together. Reporter palm sunday is the start of holy week and st. Peters square is normally packed with tens of thousands, waving palm fronds and olive branches. R. But not this y inside st. Peters basilica, pope francis and attendants celebrated a lonely mass. translated the tragedy we are experiencing in these days, summons us to take serious the things that are serious, and not be caught up in those thattt less. Reporter pope francis decided that all holy week ceremonies this year would be held behind closed doors in saint peters basilica except for one, the way of the cross. That solemn moment rs jesuss death by crucifixion more than 2000 years ago. The way of the cross candlelit ocession is traditionally held at romes ancient colosseum and attended by thousands of faithful. This year, pope francis prayed in an empty saint peters square. Po the 83yearol, alone. In jerusalem, normally packed sreets of the old city lie eerily deserted. Here along these ancient stone paths, jesus is said to have walked and suffered the 14 stations of the oss, on the via dolorosa, or painful path, to crucifixion. Today in jerusalem, on few friars walked the path, in a procession usually marked by thousands of pilgrims. Father Francesco Patton lamented the loss, but saw meaning inhe when i think to those who are in the hospitals and in the houses fighting with the coronavirus, in some way they are walking a very hard and personal via dolorosa. At the church of the holy who began celebratg passover this week marking rebirth and deliverance from an gent egypt to freedom. In the city, the beating heart of three face only the cats remain. Sepulchre, built oe spoty where jesus christ was said to have been crucified and buried, the ancient doors closed for the first time in nearly00 years, since the black plague. In paris today, the citys archbishop, michel aupetit, celebrated mass in the chaed hulk of notre dame, nearly a year after the cathedral burned. translated today, we are in this halffallen cathedral to say that life still exists. Reporter a crown of thorns, as jesus is said to have worn on the cross, rescued after the fire lay on a makeshift altar. translated its a magnificent symbol that tells us that you will accompany us inig the of our suffering. Reporter Easter Sunday at the vatican normally marks the holiest day in the christian world over celebrate the the this year, it will be different in saint peters square, as pope francis delivers his message of hope and renewal to a world in sore need of both. For the pbs newshour, im sabina castelfran in rome. Woodruff and now it is time for the analysis of shields and brooks. Thats syndicated columnist mark shields and New York Times columnist david brooks. Heo to both of you. Lets here we are, what is it, three weeks, mrk, since the first stayathome orde e United States is now, by the count we see, has almost onethird the cases of coronavirus of the entire world total. How is it u. S. Doi how is the u. S. Doing in this fight . N i think the u. S. Is adjusting collectively tow reality, a terrible reality. Character is destiny, were seeing character and leadership, were seeing societys heros change from Investment Bankers and buyout artists to all of a suddenapeople stop anplaud hospital workers and nurses and docts an firefighters and emergency people. That is a chnge. Its a recognition of the portance of what people its a recognition of what Grocery Storekeor do to keep our country going, the sacrifices that so many peple are making are truly breathtaking and admirable and i think that,o me has been the signal characteristic. Woodruff a, david, how would you say the country is doing both at the federal lev and at the state level . You dont get a sense of great competence and expertise at the federal level. You do get a little more at the state lev. The ath surmounting, the economy is crashing down around us. I am focused on Mental Health. I asked 6,000 of mNew York Times readers to we are to me about how their mental heah is doing. People are hurting. Three groups in particular. A young peope feeling their hopes and dreams are dashed and theres a sense of hopelessness, not eating, not sleeping, cryine onsofa. Senior citizens also badly hit, especially widows and widowers, that sense of crushing isolation, and those with mental inglth problems or those who re these relapses. So thenoresther Mental Health curve. Yet i think america is still hanging toether. Faith in our institutions is pretty good. Theres nobody rioting in the nstreets or lootingody saying anything but what we have to do which is just hunker down. Woodruff mark, do you see the scaffolding in place, the infrastructure, whatever you stin phople it, tup no, judy, i think, i mean, if anything has laid bare the income and economic inequality and disparity in this country, beginning with healthcare, 10 Million People, i dont know how many million have lost tlteir heaare in the past three weeks, but what Bernie Sanders talked about ise laid bfore us right now. I will say, to davids point about confidence growing, it isr but itswing in an interesting way in governors and mayors, in local government, less so in thee fderal government, less so in the president. Confidence in the president is not. Governors who havlyating that Television Shows have done very well. Mike dewine ino is at 80 approval. Chris so new new, New Hampshire s, favorab t. Donamp is not. Why . His daily doses, his substitute for his rallies are full of selfpity, full of invective, ll of complaintss hes not getting the appreciate he should get. Contrast that with the governorh are providing empathy, direction, information, encouragement and facts, and i really think theres a distinct difference and people see it. Dr woof and, david, whats your assessment of the president . He is holding highs daily briefings which sometimes runal two, two and ahours, and now he is talking about announcing next week what heins caa get back to opening up commission, opening the count up council, if you will. Is this what the country needs to hear at thios pint . I think it is. We need to know what phase two is. We know were going to hunker know what the world will looko like when we come out of. This the plans a circulating, a lot of private plans. They tend to focus on massi amounts of testing, way more than we have now, and tracing where you have an app on your phone and somebody, the government, i dont know who, bill gates, would track wherever you go, who you came inth contact nd ifyou contacted somebody wi the vis they would let you know and u selfisolate. That kind of pulling out of this is incredibly daunting but its something were going to have to figure out as we srgowly eme from this. So im gladding the president is heading up this committee. S, the problem is i have been told, is that everybody on that committee has to be 100 loyal, so if you said anything nasty about donald trump, you dont qualify for the committee, and that basically guarantees a very low level of confidence in that committee. Style, yokore know, loyalty tests areoing to be crushing to the competencef any effort going forward. Woodruff interesting, because when the president was asked about it today, he said he wanot paying attention, mark, to anyones political identicati, whether they belong to the republican or the Democratic Party. And judy, at which point his nose starts to grow. This is all the president has done since he was acquitted from the impeachment is to settle scores, to go after career professionals, dedicated professional Public Servants who have gien honest testimony and, because they did so, theyre fired, theyre susnded, theyre ostracized, theyre we have a loyalty administration at this point, and thats one ason, judy, why the next deal with Congress Becomes almost impossible. Steve mnuchin, press secretary, work well with nancy pelosi the democratic speaker, but he nt deliver donald trump. His word doesnt mean anything. Steve mnuchin says donald trump, as soon as the ink was even dry in the last legislation, he refused to honor the legislation and the oblofigatio oversight that the congress s when you spending trillions of dollars. Soi mean, no, i really think were in a grave sitnuation terms of leadership. Woodruff one other thing i the president , david, and thatg is his firing over the past week of two inspectors general,er and one over the intelligence commity, the other on at the pentagon overseeing how this money is being spent, toight the pandemic. What if we learned from that . Well, its more north korlon lty tests. Its a polttitical ven you have to be totally loyal. In world war ii therthe Truman Committee led by harry triewmen which did everything on a partisan census to crack profiteering, phenomenallyar successful and people in their own party were willing to look to the administration if they could save lives and fight war more effectivnd we wont be getting that. Were facing falling challenges, one is trust. There has tbe oversight and we have to have faith in each other. With a lack of trust, its hard to get anything done. You see that in theate when the republicans and democrats cant figure out what to put first, the Small Business loans or public loans. If we had a trusting institution we would say well do one or the other and not fighabout it but we lack the trust. Woodruff one more word sabout the inpector general decision. Judy, obviously, its part of this vendetta. This is president who feels totally aggrieved and liberated from the postpeachment. It doesnt dom as a surprise, probably, to those who were in favor of the impeachment, that this is what h is ding. I mean, hes going after such trusted and respected professionals and accusing them of petty partisanship, whh is total bogus charge and unfair, and not only liabling their reputations, but, in many cases, ending their careers. To i wansk you both about atrnie sanders. We talked about t the beginning, and his ideas, we heard him say, david, hes going to be supporting joe biden, even though he knows tt biden is not going to embrace this, and this is sanders top priority. How do you assess his decision to suspend . Well, it was inevitable he had two problems, one the party is loyal to the center where he is ando he wasnt good at working with people so he wasnt able to build a coalition. Whats inspiring about sanders is heres a guyu whos foght for a cause five or six decades and hes never budged. Hes been in the wilderness for decades and his moment has arrived. Hes given a new generation a voice. Its an impressive accomplishment to stick to it, and i imagine hes in it for the long game, whether president or nos some of hi ideas will come to fruition in the new. Generati woodruff how much influence do you think hesv going to he on the Biden Campaign . I think hes already having iniuence. Formere president , former senator biden moving on college and 15g minimum we, i think Bernie Sanders dominated the dialogue of the last five years e Democratic Party, and it was his single achievement in bringing crowds people, raising money from more people than any candidate i believe in the history o Democratic Party, individual contributors. E. Just absolutely remarka and he set the terms of the debate. I dor agee that the two things, fatal flaw, one in his control and the otherutside. His campaign was never e of welcoming people who differed with him in the past. There was almost a litmus tet, if you were wrongon nafta or ehiraq, you were som considered unacceptable. By many of bernies most ardent supporters, certainly. The second thing is, once the virus d once our pandemic hit, he was frozen in ice. I mean, all the thngs that a candidate could do to have shwn movement and support, whether rallies or speeches or handtohand campaigning, was gone, and i think he accepted that. The toughest thing in ad. Candidate, judy, is not running and losing,mi its ing that its over, and i think joe biden is showing great sensitivity by giving him both praise and time to heal. Woodruff well, we appreciate both of you tonight. Mark shields, david brooks, both of you. Nd please stayafe, woodruff many of us are spending more time in our kitchens these days under felter in place rules, forcing us to maer grocery ru and get creative with whats in our pantries. For advice on cooking in the times of covid19, William Brangham knows how to make the best of the ingredients on hand. Its part of our ongoing coverage of arts and culture, canvas. So this is a camel sauce. Brangham ina garten is one of the most beloved cooks in america. Her barefoot contea books are instant bestsellers, known for their accessible and easy recipes. And shes got a legion of tv on the food network a longtime hit. I first met garten three years ago at her home in east hampton. But now in these more difficult times, i wanted to check back with the barefoot contessa. Ina garten, welcome back to the news hour. Thank you, william, so happy to be here with you. Brangham so nice to see you, 6too. First off, just tell us how youre doing. T goes back and forth, i think. I try and keep as normal life as i can. Im really lucky that i work at home. M really lucky that i live with somebody who i want to live with, which is wonderful. But every once in a while, itcr ps in and you think, oh, my goodness, this is overwhelming. Whats happening outside and whats happeo people and how long is this going to go on for . Anthen you just shut it down. And i do as much as i can to try and keep my life as normal as. Possib brangham do you follow the news . Are you trying to limit your intake of news about w going on . I limit it to the pbs newshour actuallou brangham e just saying that. No, im not. I just cant stand to do it all day. But when you know, for one hour, i can do it. Brangham some people have been noticing recently how your instagram page, which is obviously one of the principal ways youre communicating with ngur legion of fans, has c in some ways. Its become more personal. It feels like its even more of a direct connection to you. Has th been intentional on your part . It actually happened orgacally in the beginning. I thought, how can i connect with people and give them some tools to make themselves feel better . And so i thoughtaybe ill make something for my pantry. And it started becoming like this town hall where i could people could ask me the question and i could answer them. And i actually felt veryte connto people and what problems they had that maybe i could help solve. But the other thing that happened was it gavee purpose like every morning i would wake up and think, im going to find out something that people are having a hard time with. And im going to make it with brangham theres certainly a yearning for people now. I everyocooped up at home. We asked for questions from viewers about things, and that was something at came up over and over again what is in your pantry thats a musthave that you think that tt is crucial for meals anytime . Well, i think a lot of things like dried beans and rice and lentils and things that legumes that last for a long te. I also have things in my freezer, which i ually dont use as my freezeloat all. But making a big pot of chicken stock. Makes me feel good, makes goe house smel. It feels familiar. And then i store it in the i freezer an make soups and stews. Brangham so many people wrote asking about this issue of substitutions because were just not going to the Grocery Store every day. So give us give your audience some freedom about substitutions. If you dont have x, what can you do . If you dont have y, what can you do . Substitute. F course you can make you dont have shallots, use onions, if you dont have garlic, oue ginger. If and all of a sudden im finding myself doing exactly the same thing. And its going to inform every other book that i write, because i made a frittata the other day, it was a potato basil frittata. I had no basil, so i used scallions. And you know what . T it w best frittata id ever made. Something like weeknight bologenese, which is pasta with a tomato sauce. Thand you can really put ag you want. And if you dont have ground beef, you can grab turkey or if somebody is vegetarian, you can use diced mushrooms are absolutely delicious. So i think im always big on if everybody around the table has different appetites. I find one thing that everybody can eat. I want everything that the diners to feel like a party, because were really kind of craving that, arent we, where we want to feel like were having a good time. And i think if you have people around you or even if you dont ifoure on your own and do zoom, you know, like party on zoom, yofeel like youre still connected to people. Thats the one thing that i really cve. And im i just dont know how ntm going to get through monthso an is my friends. So i do in the beginning, f started etime and zoom. And what i found is i wanted to take my telephe and just curl on myofa with a blanket and ie ttandfro an i faldshioneway, the way we used to talk on the phone. And that i find satisfying. Baking is really satisfying. I find cooking really stressful, but i fi it totally engaging. And i forget that theres something bigger going onou ide. Are you surprised that i find cooking stressful . Brangham uh, yeah. Im sorry. Did you get that viers . Ina garten finds cooking stressful . . I find it really totally engaging and im highly alert when im cooking. And thats kind of a good place to be, right . It keeps your focus. Brangham right, you keep cused on one thing. And in some ways, the outside world dissolves away for a while. And then you end up with something delicious to serve on that back end. Brangham when all of this is over and were back to not being social distanced from each other and people get back to some semblance of normalcy, is there something that you hope people take from this experience that they inject into our, into their regular lives . I think the one that were doing is appreciating the everyday things in life. Eru know, a delivery of fl a kindss by a neighbor. I think we are. Its not about success and collecting things. I think its really about important to you. Peo and it will be great if we kept that. M ngs. Hainsea garten, thank you so muh for being here. Great to see you again. Thanks so much for havg me. Woodruff and well be back, right here, on monday, with a focus on the pandemic in the d hotspot roit. Thats the newshour for tonight. Im judy woodruff. Thank you, stay safe, and good night. Major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by he william and flora hewlett foundation. 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