A guy can dream, said trump, with his two projectiles [ laughter ] reporters have found that a doctored version of the president ial seal was projected behind President Trump at an event earlier this week, which featured a twoheaded Russian Eagle clutching a set of golf clubs and a banner reading 45 is a puppet in spanish. [ laughter ] hmm. Somebody doesnt like trump and also speaks spanish . Busted [ laughter and applause according to reports, Rudy Guiliani is serving as President Trumps lawyer for free well, i think we can all agree he is worth every penny. [ laughter and applause thats right guiliani is serving as trumps lawyer for free. Well, actually, what trump said is, you can bill me all you want but i am never going to pay you. [ laughter and applause according to Campaign Finance records, indiana mayor, Pete Buttigieg has spent 300,000 on private plane travel, while Bernie Sanders just asked Spirit Airlines if they have a punch card [ laughter and applause every tenth flight should be free. [ laughter ] former Vice President , joe biden, told reporters last night that he wont be as polite during next weeks Second Democratic debate. Added biden, lets just say that this time i wont be saying thank you after kamala rips me a new one. [ laughter ] the first testtube baby was born 41 years ago today. And personally, i think its time we let them out [ laughter ] my favorite thing about that is hes wearing a tie [ laughter ] amtrak announced today that it will begin nonstop Train Service this fall between washington, d. C. And new york. So if youre in washington and you want to get to new york in a hurry, i bet i know who you are. [ laughter ] [ audience ohs ] according to a new cdc report, teen birthrates dropped last year and no one is more disappointed in that than executives at mtv [ laughter ] finally, the winners of the 12th annual iphone photography awards were announced today snubbed once again, grandma [ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show for you tonight [ cheers and applause hes a renowned filmmaker and the founder of the Traverse CityFilm Festival, which takes place july 30th through august 4th Michael Moore is back, everybody. [ cheers and applause he is a talented rapper and his show, most expensivest, airs tuesdays on viceland 2 chainz is joining us tonight [ cheers and applause his writing for the dc comics universe and beyond is the stuff of legend. One of our favorites, Brian Michael bendis is here, you guys [ cheers and applause before we get to that, the president is lying about former special counsel Robert Muellers congressional testimony. For more on this, its time for a closer look. [ cheers and applause seth yesterday, the man who oversaw a two year investigation into a criminal operation by a Foreign Government to interfere in a president ial election testified before congress on national television. And right off the bat he made headlines when he said this. Did you actually totally exonerate the president . No. Under department of justice policy, the president could be prosecuted for obstruction of justice crimes after he leaves office, correct . True. Seth man, he was quick on the draw with that answer. [ laughter ] its like he been iting two years for someone to ask him that question. And do you have the handcuffs picked out . Yes. [ laughter ] over the course of seven hours, mueller laid out details of a criminal attempt to interfere in a president ial election. A campaign that openly welcomed and encouraged that interference in a series of lies and potential attempts to obstruct justice by the president and his aides. In normal times, that would be incredibly damning and yet were all so numb to everything, people are acting like because mueller didnt come out and say the words trump is guilty, it wasnt a big deal. But what were you expecting . Did you think mueller was going to smash through the wall in a monster truck called the detrumpulator [ laughter ] muellers report, in itself, is already damning. We just got to see him explain it on national tv. Yes, he occasionally stumbled or had to consult the report, but its over 400 pages with footnotes and citations. If you asked me under oath about something i said in a closer look yesterday, id have to consult the script, too. Lets see, id like to refer you to appendix c, subsection 43b where in a closer look we play the clip of Elizabeth Warren saying the words crazy [ bleep ] [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause seth also, its pretty rich when the people who complain that mueller stumbled over details in a 400 page report are the same people who are totally fine with mr. Details over here. This will be a plan where you can choose your doctor this will be plan where you can choose your plan, and you know what the plan is, this is the plan [ laughter ] seth i mean, its very easy not to stumble when youre just using the same five words over and over again [ laughter ] but give him something trickier, like the word lawmakers and then see what happens he has worked in both houses of congress, advising lawmarkers. [ laughter ] seth the lawmarker, of course being the sharpie that every judge uses to write out their legal decision [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause thank you, lawmarker. Of course, muellers very straightforward claim that he could not exonerate the president comes after months of trump claiming unequivocally that the Mueller Report completely and totally exonerated him there was no collusion with russia there was no obstruction and none whatsoever. And it was a complete and total exoneration. No collusion, no obstruction, complete and total exoneration keep America Great total exoneration, complete vindication. Seth and hey, you know, in this case, you got to believe trump because he definitely read the report, right . [ light laughter ] i have not read the Mueller Report i havent seen the Mueller Report as far as im concerned i dont care about the Mueller Report. Seth i mean, im not surprised he didnt read it but its jarring when he just comes out and admits it. Hes like a guy at a book club whose had a few glasses of wine, going, i guess if im being totally honest, my favorite part of 50 shades of grey was the cover because i did not read it. [ laughter and applause and also, we are out of pinot [ laughter ] by the way. So for four months trump has been saying the report completely and totally exonerated him how does he feel now that mueller said explicitly, on national television, that he did not exonerate trump . There is no such a thing. He didnt have the right to exonerate. You know, its very interesting. People mention exoneration that was something where he totally folded, because he never had the right to exonerate seth donald trump has a tell whenever he goes, you know, its very interesting, hes about to lay out some five star bull [ bleep ] [ laughter ] so mueller made clear that he could not exonerate trump, because that was basically his only option. Mueller couldnt just straight up indict trump because of Justice Department guidelines that say you cant indict a sitting president. So instead, he basically had to say, we cant exonerate the president , now its up to congress but then republicans weirdly tried to claim that mueller that didnt have the power to claim someone was either exonerated or not exonerated one republican congressman even made a big show at that point using props, but mueller wasnt having it. Mr. Mueller, does the attorney general have the power or authority to exonerate and what im putting up here is United States code this is where the attorney general gets his power and the constitution and the annotated cases of these, which weve searched we even went to your law school, because i went to case western but i thought maybe your law school teaches it differently. We got the criminal law textbook from your law school mr. Mueller, nowhere in these, because we had them scanned, is there a process or description on exonerate theres no office of exoneration at the Attorney Generals Office theres no certificate at the bottom of his desk mr. Mueller, would you agree with me that the attorney general does not have the power to exonerate im going to pass on that seth oh. Its such a bummer when you bust out all your books and the other guy doesnt care [ laughter ] i feel so bad for the staff that had to get all this stuff. I feel like this isnt going to work out the way you think it will. Oh, trust me, when he sees the books, his head will explode [ laughter ] i will be like, do you remember this one from your law school . Of course, no matter what mueller said, nothing was going to stop trump from declaring victory, which is what he did on his way to an event last night in west virginia, when he once again stopped by reporters for his usual chopper adjacent q and yell there was no defense of what Robert Mueller was trying to defend, in all fairness to Robert Mueller whether his performance was a bad one or good one. I think everybody understands that i think everybody understands whats going on. This has been a very bad thing for our country. And despite everything weve been through, its been an incredible 2 1 2 years for our country. The administration, our president , me. Seth oh, you youre the president well that explains a lot. [ light laughter ] later, trump was asked about muellers assertion that trumps aides had lied during the investigation and trump both denied that mueller had said that and also claimed the reporter herself was lying by asking the question. What do you say that Robert Mueller said that youre lying let me just tell you something. I know, you always have a question reporter lying by white house aides you mean my white house aides lie . What about his aides what about muellers aides reporter he said you are generally untruthful what do you say to that . Hes accusing you of he didnt say that at all youre untruthful when you ask you are untruthful, when you ask that question. When you ask that question, youre untruthful. You know who else is untruthful . You know who else is untruthful . His aides. Seth why does anyone even ask him questions anymore . [ laughter ] its like continuing to put dollar bills in a jukebox that only plays achy breaky heart no matter what buttons you press. Also, can we go back to this reporter what do you say to Robert Mueller said that youre lying let me just tell you something. I know you always have a question seth yeah. She always has a question. Shes a reporter [ laughter ] when the mailman shows up at your door, do you say, oh, let me guess, an envelope . [ laughter ] would a pizza kill you, mailman . [ applause ] mueller was also asked yesterday about trumps various attacks on his investigation. And his answers were very clear. When donald trump called your investigation a witch hunt, that was also false, was it not id like to think so, yes well, your investigation is not a witch hunt, is it . It was not a witch hunt when the president said the russian interference was a hoax, that was false, wasnt it . True. Seth now, compare that to how trump reacted just a few hours later. There was no defense to this ridiculous hoax, this witch hunt, thats been going on for a long time. And everybody knew it was a hoax, wikileaks is a hoax just like Everything Else and all of those problems having to do with crime were the biggest hoax of all. It was a witch hunt, a total witch hunt we did nothing wrong the answer is very simple. Nothing was done wrong this was all a big hoax. Seth okay, i know you watched the hearing. But did you listen or did your aides secretly dub over muellers lines with sean hannity saying nice things about you . The witch hunt is officially over the Mueller Report is out and the president of the United States has been totally and completely vindicated. [ light laughter ] seth the president and his allies have immediately started lying about yesterdays hearings, because those hearings laid out in clear and unequivocal terms the story of whats happened and that story is incredibly damning. At this point, its up to congress to do something about it they could either stand by and do nothing or they can impeach our president , me seth this has been a closer look. [ cheers and applause well be right back with Michael Moore, everybody [ cheers and applause announcer for more of seths closer looks, be sure to subscribe to late night on youtube. Whos dog is this . Its my special friend, antonio. His luxurious fur calms my nerves when im worried about moving into our new apartment. Why dont we just ask geico for help with renters insurance . I didnt know geico helps with renters insurance. Yeah, and we could save a bunch too. Antonio fetch computer antonio . Ill get it. Get to know geico and see how much you could save on renters insurance. 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Get your dna kit today at ancestry. Com. [ cheers and applause seth welcome back everybody. Give it up for the 8g band right over here. [ chrs and applause also, fred armisen has been with us all week. And fred, it is such a delight to be around you i just feel, not only are you my friend and i like your companionship, but its an education to be around you, fred you are a renaissance man. [ light laughter ] are you okay with me calling you that fred its so nice. Thank you. [ light laughter ] seth youre a comedian, a musician, a writer but the thing i found out about you this week that many people dont know, you are an art connoisseur. Fred i am. Seth and you were telling me backstage you were telling me that you have an art historians knowledge of every painting ever painted. Fred every painting, yes [ laughter ] seth now theres a chance theres a chance that youre lying to me fred, and thats just something youve said to impress me and that would break my heart. But i would prefer you to come clean to me right now than lie to me. Fred no, its the truth. [ light laughter ] seth well we are gonna put it to the test, fred its time once again for fred armisen art affectionado. [ cheers and applause seth fred, this is David Hockneys portrait of an artist pool with two figures fred, tell us about this painting fred oh, yes [ laughter ] and incredible piece that was inspired, they say, by some of the older paintings and some of the impressionist paintings. Where back then, it would be a sort of gentleman near a swimming pool. [ light laughter ] and another person underneath a swimming pool, you know like look swimming in the water seth yes i think we can all see that. [ light laughter ] fred but what im saying, but take a close look at the blue, which is really fascinating. It represents water. [ laughter ] which is seth this blue or this blue . Fred towards the bottom. Seth okay, gotcha. Fred i love that when i first learned that, i was like, oh, wow. [ laughter ] and so the if you look up at the gentleman, the red represents jacket. [ laughter ] so, which is great its just like these things, sort of its very impressionistic and very celebratory seth sure. So now thats all stuff you learned from obviously your art education. Fred yes seth what did you think it was before you were told that . [ light laughter ] fred i thought it was just abstract colors, you know. I thought it was the palette he used to sort of start painting seth oh wow. So you just thought that was green until someone said trees [ light laughter ] fred how did you know that i never [ laughter ] seth thank you, once thats fantastic its just fantastic how much you know fred oh, thank you seth can you tell me the artists name one more time . Fred this is seth i already told you. Fred this is a Group Painting and its [ laughter ] seth different people did fred its the hockney family seth oh, the hockney family did it gotcha fred so everyone chipped in for it [ light laughter ] seth give it up for fred armisen everybody. [ cheers and applause our first guest tonight is the Academy Award winning filmmaker of documentaries like roger and me, bowling for columbine and fahrenheit 9 11. He is the founder of the Traverse CityFilm Festival which runs from july 30th to august 4th please welcome back to the show Michael Moore, everybody [ cheers and applause seth welcome back. How are you . Im here finally on a show when fred is here. Seth that true. You have not overlapped. No, its great. Seth its a nice reward for your continuing kindness to us and continuing to come back. Well, this show is kind to america. Seth oh thats very nice for you to say seth the fact that you do this every night and speak the truth seth thats very kind of you. In ways that should have you hauled out of here one of these days [ light laughter ] seth well, im hanging on as long as i can. You spoke a little truth yesterday to moderate dems who you were critical of putting too much of their faith in the Mueller Report being their him being their savior yes seth and you wrote that a frail old man unable to remember things, stumbling refusing to answer basic questions, i said it in 2017 and mueller confirmed today. This was a mistake. You got a retweet from someone who agreed with you on this. Donald trump retweeted you yes yes, yes [ light laughter ] seth now obviously you have been very vocal about him. Hes been very vocal about you how does it feel when donald trump agrees with you . But hes always actually his tweets at me, actually hes afraid, i think. He never attacks in the way i did get a nickname from him. Seth yeah. Theres 200 of us i dont know if youre in the club but seth yeah. You have a nickname from him . Seth hes said third rate about me third rate. Seth yeah. Third rate seth seth well not really i havent gotten a seth. Ive had marbles in my mouth that was said about me i got sloppy mike seth sloppy mike sloppy mike yeah. [ light laughter ] so yes, i think hes a little afraid to come completely at me. Because essentially, im his base seth right im an angry white guy over the age of 50, and i have a High School Education [ laughter ] seth yeah. Right. [ cheers and applause so you dont want to go at me you dont want to go at me too hard seth right so its actually i so enjoy it when he does. And i tweeted him back about the part about we where watching a frail old man yesterday. I just said, donald, i was actually talking about you. [ light laughter ] seth despite everything yesterday, you still do believe that impeachment is the right path oh, absolutely. Absolutely you cant i dont know whats wrong with the democrats. You have to, for historys sake, for the children, you have to say, this is wrong [ cheers and applause president s cannot break the law. Seth so ultimately and yes, i know that what everybody says is, well, yeah, but the senate wont the senate doesnt impeach impeach is only done by the house. And it means that your behavior has caused us to impeach you and now we will send you to the senate for trial but you dont say dont do it, because there wont be a trial in the senate as we know the Detroit Tigers dont say, i dont want to go to new york and play the yankees, were just gonna lose. [ laughter ] lets not do impeachment because well lose in the senate and were democrats and our feelings will get hurt no we need to fight we have to fight, fight, fight you know [ cheers and applause we im serious. We this is serious. Next year, next year, people realize we could i think actually, whoever the democratic candidate is will get 2 million more votes than hillarys 3 million that she beat him with i think we will get 5 million next year and we could still lose the Electoral College seth right this is a very, very serious thing. So we have to do some things to make sure we have the right candidate. We have to have a beloved american running, not a professional politician. We have to have somebody if you put up a professional politician against trump you gotta somebody will inspire the base the base here of the democratic party, women, people of color and young adults between 18 and 35 [ cheers and applause thats 70 of whose going to vote next year seth right 70 of the electorate is what i just described but you need a candidate to where when people wake up on election morning next year, theyve got to have that sense that if you voted in 08 or 12 for obama. You remember how that feeling that morning you couldnt wait to get to the polls. I cant believe were going to do this today. Who are you going to say that about of the 25 that are running, right now when you wake up a year from november, i cant wait to get to the polls so i can vote for John Hickenlooper [ laughter ] or joe biden. Joe biden i love joe biden seth yeah. I love joe biden, too. But we got to win. Seth but i think a lot of i can understand as well theres a i understand this thought process, which is now going into 2016, i think a lot of people, you were not this kind of person you thought trump was going to win, you called it state by state. I think a lot of people, i will admit it to it, didnt think he could win. Now i see, and this year, i can understand that people are like just give me the safest candidate. Do you think that is but you think thats the hugest mistake. No, its the hugest mistake you dont want safe right now. You have to fight trump with whatever our version of hes a street fighter we need a street fighter thats the only way youre gonna defeat him youre going up against a bully. Seth do you see street fighters in the how many street fighters, dont name names but how many out of the 25 do you see as street fighters uh, two seth okay. 2 of the 25 i can say seth if you want, you can say it well look, bernie [ cheers and applause i really i think, if bernie were here now, he could take on fred i mean i think he seth really . [ laughter ] you want to talk about strategy because you yes, yes. Seth again, you called this last time. And talk about what happened in michigan in 2016 and last november, we michigan sadly went red for trump in 2016 but this past november we brought it back to blue. And we kicked out all the republicans in the State Capitol and we got the governor, lieutenantgovernor, attorney general and secretary of state and we kicked out two republicans, congressman in suburban detroit and replaced them with two Democratic Women so michigan is now back [ cheers and applause let me tell you how we did it. Heres how we did it and we got to do this in states especially the swing states next year ballot proposals brought out the people to vote last november who may not have voted so we came up with this idea lets get two ballot proposals actually this is carl roves and bushs idea. In 2004, they got 14 states to put an amendment on the ballot proposal to ban gay marriage and it passed in all 14 states and it brought out enough people to get bush elected we can do this this time if we put ballot measures on the ballots. We did it in michigan with marijuana legalization, we doubled the youth vote [ light laughter ] from the previous off year election and the africanamerican vote, which thousands had sat it out in 16, unhappy with the choices, came back to vote last november, because we had a ballot proposal to make gerrymandering and Voter Suppression illegal. And it passed. [ cheers and applause it passed. Marijuana passed, and we had a huge africanamerican turnout. And that gave us we got democrats elected off it so, instead of putting all our hopes in one politician to carry the thing, we have to get these ballot proposals on in swing states that will bring out people to vote now i tweeted at trump just before i came out to watch tonight. Seth oh wow. Okay, gotcha you know, because i was going to tell him, you know [ laughter ] hes like seth thank you i told him to get a bucket of kfc. Seth yep and hes in his robe right now watching you and i seth yeah, probably, yeah. And i said, you got to watch, because im going to tell you how were going remove you from the white housxt year. Seth all right [ cheers and applause and were gonna do it by getting those ballot proposals in those states to bring out the majority of americans who are that 70 , women, people of color, young adults were gonna run a beloved candidate who is a street fighter. All right, im serious folks, if we put up the wrong horse in this race, we are doomed again lets not do that. And im willing to say ok so lets say obviously i love bernie and his politics and all that, but we all have to agree were going to all vote for the person that isnt just going to beat trump, because i think theres four or five candidates now that can beat him. But beating isnt good enough, hillary beat him we have to crush trump it has to be orange crush. [ cheers and applause orange crush operation orange crush i just came up with that seth there you go. Well you got to come back again. 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So seth and its trappy, thats your dog trappy . Yes, trappy this is my [ audience aws ] seth and you you found him doing your show, right yes, emotional support for [ laughter ] so yeah, i got trappy from the show, most expensivest. His dad was named micro and i was doing the show and i was asking my normal questions and they tell me that his dad makes about 300,000 a year. Seth really . Thats what i said. Seth yeah. [ laughter ] i said, you know, tell me more would you like to sell this dog . And they said, no, we couldnt sell the dog. I said, if you could sell it, you know, how much . And they were like, you know, 100,000. And i said, really . [ laughter ] and then, i said, i want me one. So thats micros son, trappy, right there. Seth all right yeah, so i waited until he had another litter [ laughter ] and weve been rocking out trappy is 5yearsold. Seth hes 5yearsold. Yeah. Seth and now, this show, for those it started as a web series on gq and now, its on viceland. But you just basically go around and you try the most expensive basically, products in the world the most outrageous luxury goods on the face of the earth and, you know, by me being rather on the flamboyant side [ laughter ] its just custom straight for me, you know seth yeah. Its very improv. I dont know the person im about to meet. I dont know what they have that costs so much. I dont know where the passion comes from i go out there, and then, theres basically a camera filming that whole conversation. So it could be, you know, educational. Its very funny. Because i just cant believe some people have some of this stuff and the prices that it costs. Seth yeah. I mean, because its not just stuflike watchesits stuff like very expensive hot sauce. Yes [ light laughter ] seth a lot of things a lot of things with gold in it. It seems like gold flakes. Everything with gold is a go. Everything with gold is a i had a hamburger that was 300, had gold on it seth and now, when youre eating the hamburger, are you like, mmm, thats good gold. [ laughter ] im like, im like, im like yeah, this gold is really kicking, you know. Im like, this gold is [ laughter ] seth has there been anything you tried that you thought, oh, i now, i need this, other than trappy of course well, trappy was Something Else [ laughter ] well, you know, a lot of the things i think for the most part ive built relationships throughout the show. Ive definitely educated myself throughout the show. Some of the things that i think i just cannot live without, the next day, im okay, i get over it [ laughter ] but but, a lot of the times, i actually try to tell the person, that you know, im doing you a huge favor everybody in the world is watching this, so you should just give it to me seth yeah. [ laughter ] and thats worked out a lot for me [ laughter ] seth oh, thats good you also have three kids is that right . Yeah. Seth is there stuff they see that they basically say the same thing to you, like, dad, you got to get us this for free . Yes, yes. [ laughter ] i have heaven, harmony and halo. And heavens birthday is tomorrow, so [ audience aws ] and my mom and my mom [ cheers and applause seth all right, same day yeah. Seth happy birthday to them both yeah, so, i had an episode that had popcorn with gold on it seth yeah. [ laughter ] and my kids love popcorn, so they definitely wanted to try that seth all right, thats great. Now you brought a bottle of you had a was it a 500,000 bottle of tequila what was the expensive one you had on too much. Seth too much. [ laughter ] seth this is a 2,000 bottle of tequila you brought for us to try. Yeah, i really enjoy this tequila, by the way. Seth im very excited to try it with you. Ive got a couple of glasses clase azul is the name of the tequila. Seth this is classic azul. This is 2,000 clase seth oh, actually, i think they told me the top of the bell yes, its a bell. [ bell dings ] yeah [ laughter ] come and get it [ cheers and applause seth yeah, come and get it there you go and i know you like yours with Pineapple Juice . Yeah, i do. Seth and this is very expensive Pineapple Juice. Its dole, i think yeah. 1. 99. Seth 1. 99 the spanish, i think they can opener [ laughter ] seth are they happy when they give you a 2,000 bottle of tequila, and youre like, and then, a little Pineapple Juice . [ laughter ] im just going to have a lime in mine so this bottle is cool, right, because you dont really throw them away. Seth yeah. At the end, they make, like, flower pots out of them and lamps. And, i mean, ive seen them do everything with the bottle when you get through seth yeah. You know, getting wasted. Seth well, look, i mean be very creative. 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[dog barks] [ cheers and applause seth our next guest is one of the most popular and critically acclaimed comic book writers in the industry. Please welcome back to the show our friend Brian Michael bendis, everyone [ cheers and applause seth welcome back hello hi how are you . Seth great you look fantastic thank you seth last time you were here, 2015, it was a while ago and we talked about how you created miles morales, that was a character that you came up with cocreated. Seth cocreated. Yeah. [ cheers and applause seth and now, you know, it was a big deal then, but now, into the spiderverse happens. And speak about, like, how exciting it must be to have a hand in the creation of someone within a world but obviously, a lot of people have had hands in creating but to watch not just the popularity of it, but just the impact socially having a character like that on there. Really, its amazing. Its what its everything ive ever wanted out of the entire experience of telling stories. You want to tell stories so people can communicate and kind of understand each other and the whole point of miles is just trying to, like, expand the idea of what a hero is and what it can be. And anyone can wear the suit and we did it in comics, and then, great filmmakers came and grabbed it and did it better than us. And achieved a higher goal, but still stayed within what we were trying to achieve. And now, i get to sit back and everyone watches on netflix and tweets lovely things at us all day. Seth thats wonderful. Its like a hug that never stops. [ cheers and applause seth and i want to talk because and ill speak about this because you, you know, you write characters that everyone is familiar with. You write batman, you write superman youve written so many over the years. But, you also, in line with miles, you have this character, this book, naomi and speak to that, and, like, the similarities and why its important for you to keep writing characters like this well, david walker and Jamal Campbell and i created naomi for dc comics. The idea to bring a new character into dc and just she has a brand new origin, not connected to anything with batman or any legacy character, but shes an adopted child in the Pacific Northwest and she feels a connection to superman because hes also the most famous orphan. Seth yeah. And that connection leads her on a journey that she actually discovers her super power and her surprising origin that actually is going to bring a lot of new stuff to the dc universe. But what i discovered was how hungry some of the audience is for just new characters to come into this existing universe. Like, its superman and batman, but from a new perspective and that has been a real gift, like, people really have been warm and generous about naomis appearance seth and this is a big deal for people like me who are in the know you moved over after 19 years at marvel, you moved over to dc i would say for people who arent fully in tune with the comic books world, its a little bit like if near the end of his career not the end of his career, you have years to go [ laughter ] but in the middle of his career, if derek jeter moved to the Boston Red Sox does that seem like a fair analogy . Well, i dont know sports references, because im [ light laughter ] if you make it like a superman reference, maybe i can help you with it. But im hearing it was like that seth yeah, right thats what i heard [ laughter ] if late in his career, superman moved to the avengers exactly seth yeah, there you go. I would buy the book in two seconds, so there you go [ laughter ] seth you are writing superman now thats the best seth what are id imagine there must be pressures involved with taking on Something Like this it is its like the most iconic superhero. Im a little jewish kid from cleveland. He was created by little jewish kids from cleveland. Seth yeah, he was. A deep connection when you live in cleveland, thats all anyone ever tells you. You know, hes superman, you know, so hes on the front of most synagogues in cleveland. [ laughter ] so, i um but its a great honor. You really, you feel like this is like an honor that youre being handed and, what i didnt know is like, the job now is i have to spend, like, hours a day thinking, what would the greatest person think . What would the greatest person do because if it isnt the greatest, its not superman, right . So i literally have to like train my brain just to think good thoughts all day. [ laughter ] and i was like, what a great way to spend the day like, i didnt know and then, i thought thats kind of the opposite of your job. Which i feel bad after [ laughter ] seth yeah. But its so but the other thing is you cant like spend thinking nice thoughts all day and then go fight with people at the supermarket. Seth yeah, you have to be like, what would superman do you have to elevate your game seth and yeah, thats very so youve been tweeting about this and youve been saying, long live the legions. Yes, long live the legions. Seth again, i know what that means. Or certainly, i know, i think i know what that means you were going to take on the legion of superheroes. Yes now for people who dont know what the legion of superheroes are, because they have been off the shelves for a while, this is for people who know, in the know, the greatest Superhero Team of all time this is and also one of the most dense, complicated, interesting books. Seth i mean, heres i guess, what is what were you saying today, 34 different characters yes, theres 34 its like a Robert Altman movie with superheroes. [ light laughter ] but for people who think theyve seen it all, like avengers engame oh, my god. For people in the know, you aint seen legion yet. Seth thats very exciting. And i will say from this photo, ryan sook, one of my favorite artists. Its so exciting yes seth the two of you working together on this this is ryan sook and jordie bellaire. Ill put this together these are all the redesigned legionnaires people havent seen them in a while. Were going to bring them back and what these characters do is that they live 1,000 years in the future from us its 1,000 years from now so good news, theres a future. [ laughter ] and thats the good seth thats good news. Its 1,000 years from now, yeah [ cheers and applause and all these teenagers have gotten together to live the ideals of the age of heroes. They want to be superman, batman, wonder woman and so, theyre living what they think is the best version of us. Seth well, i think we should all take a cue from them yes seth and it is wonderful to have you here as always. Thank you so much seth thanks for being back on the show. Thank you [ cheers and applause seth Brian Michael bendis, everybody. Well be right back. [ cheers and applause he pill. Im on the pill. Im on the pill. Im on the pill, too. But its not birth control. Its truvada for prep®, a oncedaily prescription medicine for adults that, when taken every day along with using safer sex practices, can help lower my chances of getting hiv through sex. I use condoms. But i talked to my doctor about doing more. He said that because i had a higher chance of getting hiv through sex, truvada for prep could be an option for me. She also told me that truvada alone may not keep me from getting hiv. And it does not prevent other stis or pregnancy. 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