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Two Police Officers. A jealous ex partner who killed a mother in front of her two children has been handed a life sentence. 46 year old robert moyo attacked 35 year old robert moyo attacked 35 year old robert moyo attacked 35 year old perseverance ncube in her bedroom, before chasing her into the street. Once there , he into the street. Once there, he stabbed her through the heart with a meat skewer. Hes been told he must serve a minimum of 27 years and donald trump has been threatened with jail in the United States for violating a 939 United States for violating a gag order in his hush money trial. Judge juan meshan fined the former president 9,000 and warned him any further infractions would lead to incarceration. Meshan had imposed the gag order to prevent mr trump from criticising witnesses. He was fined 1000 for witnesses. He was fined 1000 for each of nine online statements. Trump is arguing that the gag order violates his right to freedom of speech. For the freedom of speech. For the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to news. Com. Au. Its time now for news. Com. Au. Its time now for headliners. Headliners. Hello and welcome to headliners im simon evans joining me tonight, two comedians with no beginning to their talent. Its leo kearse and steve n allen. Allen. How very dare. How very dare. Not very nice simon i know they always team me up with this unemployed disobliging. Unemployed disobliging. Dont start blaming some invisible people. In fact, i suspect you probably collaborate with them to put me on the back foot. Dont you know . You say so get him to say that about me. And then. And then hell be apologetic and diminutive in the. Its not even true. Its not even true. I can knit. So there are beginnings to my talent. What are your modem accomplishments . I was trying to go through a list the other day. You know, in the old days, a man used to have to con a ship and be able to butcher a hog and light a fire in the wild. What would you say they are nowadays . I cant correctly butcher a hog, but i can make a mess of exactly. Its also one of the meanings of butcher, isnt it . Yeah. What have you got . What have you got . You got anything . You got anything . I genuinely can prepare . Animals that are dead. Animals that are dead. Can you . Can you . Yeah, yeah. What do they call it . Thats the dress. You dress thats the dress. You dress like a crab, isnt it . Thats fancy english terms. So i just rip the guts out and stick it on a plate. Thats all id do. Thats all id do. Excellent. Well, well look forward to the second half. In the meantime, lets have a look at the front pages. We have the daily mail prostate scans that could cut deaths by 40. We have the guardian. 22 minutes of horror. Boy killed in sword rampage. The telegraph with that story. Two schoolboy killed in story. Two schoolboy killed in daylight sword rampage. The times immigration levels fall amid visas crackdown. The eye amid visas crackdown. The eye news boy, 14, killed on his way to school in horror, sword attack and finally, the daily star make britain great again with bin man. So those were your front pages. Front pages. I think its count binface, isnt it . But i dont want to have to read all the other candidates so we steer away from that. Kicking off the in depth look into wednesdays front pages with the telegraph. Leo. So the telegraph leads with the big story today, obviously, is the schoolboy killed in a daylight sword rampage and theyve theyve caught the man, he had a Samurai Sword. So i mean, obviously theres a lot of knife crime in london, but the knives are getting bigger for it appears and yeah, absolutely horrific. There are also two first responders, two police injured. They tasered police injured. They tasered them. Theres some some pretty, you know, gripping and gruesome video. So theyve obviously theyve got him. Theres no ambiguity about this. Hes been hes hes been nabbed. Hes hes alive. Nabbed. Hes hes alive. Hes in hospital right now. They dont know a motive. They dont know if you know, hes not known to the police, which you think you know, somebody who had serious psychological issues would probably be known to the police, but theyre saying its not terror related at the moment. Terror related at the moment. Terror related or gang related. Just just psycho is that is that the implication . Yeah, it seems to be. I mean, he looks kind of too to old be in a gang. But i mean, this is all speculation. I think its, you know, its important. After spending a few minutes on twitter, i think its important to avoid speculating on. Absolutely. I mean, the temptation with a Samurai Sword , steve, as well, Samurai Sword, steve, as well, is to assume that theres a bit of a kind of mental, obligation there as well. You know what i mean . Thats the kind of like larping end of the spectrum, isnt it . Yeah. I mean, look, we dont know the details. Even the police say that were all we deserve. The details of this kind of crime that we need to get to the bottom of it. And actually, you know what . We sit on these this desk so often and say bad things about the police. I think it is worth saying that. Did this job. All right. I mean, one of the headunes all right. I mean, one of the headlines talks about 22 minutes of horror, but 22 minutes from finding out that this is happening to getting it stopped and, you know, two of them injured and it shows theres bravery there. Theyre stepping in. Is there any implication that he would have been like up and down the street, waving the sword of , well, he was running sword of, well, he was running down gardens like jumping fences, but that was probably to try and avoid the capture. Then caught in a front garden, being tasered three times as well. I mean, you know, its not the story to be glib about, but i didnt think it took that many times being tasered. If they dropped the voltage or something. Well, with the taser, i mean, theres plenty of clips i have seen on, on american tv more often where they use the taser and people keep coming, and i think it can be, they used to say about angel dust, it was known as was it pcp that can allow you to theres a theres a clip on there. Yeah, which can allow you to overcome the otherwise the sort of muscle contractions is how a taser works, isnt it . I contractions is how a taser works, isnt it . I think its not just pain, but its supposed to sort of cramp you. But yeah. Well, i mean, that would certainly also, its got to get the two prongs have got to get a good connection. Right. It depends where the connection is as well on your body. Baggy hoodie could actually be quite good armour in actually be quite good armour in a way. Lets move on to slightly better news in the daily mail. The prostate news . Yeah. The prostate news . Yeah. Good news, prostate scans that could and that is doing a whole lot of heavy lifting in the headline, cut death by 40. What it basically is, is theyre going to get a massive dump of data and analyse it. Right. This is the way its a literal dump. I mean, it depends if you do the test badly, i dont know. I mean, this is i dont know what kind of scans theyre talking about, but it might see the end of the Old Fashioned prostate test, which is going to be me not going to the doctors anymore. Yeah, but no, this is this is good news. Its so speculative. But were going to be the uk is leading this research. It will be the biggest data set of ever. And hopefully it then means that smaller indicators will be picked up. You catch it earlier, you save lives. I have a slightly renegade view about prostate because an awful lot of older men die with Prostate Cancer rather than of it. We know that its a condition that gets you sooner or later. If you live long enough. But the other thing about the prostate is it just becomes a massive inconvenience and discomfort, isnt it . Its the enlarged prostate. That means youre getting up 3 or 4 times in the night. You know, its the enlarged prostate. That means you can never really have a satisfying evacuation. What we ultimately need is to be able to remove the prostate safely and efficiently at a certain point, when its no longer required , when its no longer required, and we shrink it using some sort of medicine. Yeah, that sort of thing, Something Like that. Down to the size of a walnut. I mean, its perfectly possible to shrink your liver, isnt it, using alcohol. Yeah. So you would think thered be something cocktail works for prostate. Cocktail works for prostate. Its right next to that good nerve, isnt it . Thats. Thats why the operation is so feared. I cant remember the name of the nerve, but the one nerve that still means you do some sexy stuff. Yes, yes , thats often done. But that is to be, to be tiptoe around this a little bit. But you can have your prostate removed and continue to have erections , have have erections, have a satisfying sex life. Although, you know, there are probably lots of other things that might mitigate that. Anyway, at a certain age. No offence, semen, but its still rather go to a hospital. Yeah , ive just got the old yeah, ive just got the old corkscrew on the on the swiss army knife. Thats all you need me anyway , lets have a look at the, the times. Leo, what have they got . Leo, what have they got . Leo, what have they got . Some more good news. So immigration levels fall amid visas crackdown. So a crackdown on foreign students visas has slashed the number of dependents theyre bringing in to the uk by 80. So previously students could bnng 80. So previously students could bring dependents, family with them. And so the student visa was like a trojan horse to bring, students who could change their visa or work on the side and also bring their family who could, who could then work , could, who could then work, claim benefits, use use services or whatever. But the data reveals that the number of dependents granted visas to join their student spouse has fallen from nearly 33,000in the First Quarter of last year to 6700in the same period this year , and the same period this year, and the same period this year, and the number of overseas students applying for visas also fell by 15. So i mean, its really sort of vindicating rishi sunak and James Cleverlys approach, to this, because weve known for a while now a lot of colleges in the uk arent really about education. Theyre about theyre almost like a sort of visa. You can buy a visa to come to the to the uk, and the education is just a sort of like exit through the gift shop, isnt it . Yeah you get the way in. I dont know why we dont just have visa auctions. We could raise a huge amount of money for the for the National Purse and just auction visas to people who want to come here instead of giving the to money rubbish universities. Uk approved people smugglers , uk approved people smugglers, traffickers, you know, you could start work, set up an office in libya. We already do. Theyre called the rnli. Yes. Thats true. Anything a whiff of context would be the reason this is, this was brought in to try and get a good headune in to try and get a good headline out of it. Theyve got a good headline. This is reduced. So the big problem is legal migration was 700,000. Around 700,000. It was 30 ish. Thousand dropped down to, you know, 80 less than that. That means still it would be approximately 700,000. These numbers are so small in comparison to the problem theyre trying to solve, and theyve managed to get a good headune theyve managed to get a good headline out of it without really doing a big bit of solving the big problem. But this is just one section of the of the problem. So, i mean, theyve got to sort of do this, replicate this across all sections. Well, as you were saying earlier, the first rwanda shipment is underway. Shipment is underway. And so obviously thats going to put paid to the small boats little by little, little, you know, niche by niche. Know, niche by niche. One guy got sent back. Well take that one off that 700,000 huge deterrent steve. Thats the issue, ending this section with a guardian , sir, to section with a guardian, sir, to see that were not covering the star. But lets have a look at the guardian, well, theyve got, minister list cap on faith School Selection in and this. Theres a rule if you are oversubscribed as a faith school , theres a rule about having 50. You could have 50. Just the faith thereafter. And then you had to open it to people in the catchment area. All right. Thats going to be dropped that even some of the people against this as an idea include, former archbishop of Canterbury Rowan williams is against the idea of it. And so this is to allow faith schools to be more determined by the faith. Yes. Determined by the faith. Yes. Exclusively. Yeah. Get rid of that 50 cap. That seems to me reasonable to me, dont you . Who looks at the uk in 2024 and says, you know what, this country needs more segregation based on race and religion. Yeah, but we know thats not what it is really. But it will end up being that. Yeah, but well, a lot of faith schools, its because they have good results and they have good discipline. And because parents like to know what kind of children their children are going with, its not really so much about the faith and the indoctrination. You just think its about Catholic Schools there. Well, there were christian churches, sorry, schools in london before we moved out that were that had a very good reputation. Reputation. And it wasnt because we werent religious, but we were, you know, like a lot of parents considered faking it because it was it basically you get a private School Quality education now, whatever that might be down to, i dont know. But obviously its largely down to eliminating , you know, the certain a certain kind of people that the state school cant have no ability to weed out. And that is what it really is. Its not, i dont think, because you want your children to grow up with a strong faith, its because you want them to grow up without interruption. But maybe thats like one type of faith school. There are other kinds that are funded by saudi arabia and, you know, actually push quite sort of abhorrent views that even guardian readers who love faith schools, who, well , a certain schools, who, well, a certain faith school wouldnt like, i mean, things like, you know, how to to how stone a woman to death or. Yes, give her is a sin. Given Rowan Williams has come out against them. Its probably i mean, he likes those kind, right . Hes pro sharia law, isnt he . Hes. But its the christian ones he wont like for legal reasons. The host should push back on that point. I do like the way. I like the i do like the way. I like the way Philip Pullman is mentioned, though he, of course, wrote that sort of anti catholic trilogy. Didnt he . The, what was it called . The Northern Lights and the secret telescope or something . Not not the secret telescope. Telescope. Thats it. Thats a different story altogether. Anyway those were your front pages , in part were your front pages, in part two, we eviscerate the innards. Two, we eviscerate the innards. We have the latest on dodgy visas, Monty Panesar , flying visas, Monty Panesar, flying circus. And what to do . The what to do. What do the chinese want with all that gold . Welcome back to headliners with me, simon evans, leo kearse, and steve n allen. The Philip Pullman trilogy was called his dark materials. Thank you for all your tweets, steve times now a Surprising New ally for gorgeous george. Its marvellous. Monty throwing his marvellous. Monty throwing his turban into the ring. Yeah. Monty panesar to stand as mp for Workers Party in a general election. This is in ealing southall, George Galloways party. The man who is very famous at the moment for saying that rishi sunak and keir starmer are two cheeks of the same backside, a despised rishi sunak, but hes, two cheeks of the same backside, and george is very much putting himself in the middle. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. So theyve announced 200 candidates to stand in different areas. Monty has said he would like to become prime minister, which shows really understand politics. Then because thats not going to happen, is it . I mean, his initials are. I mean, his initials are. No, the wrong way round is mp isnt he . Mp . Mp yeah, mpp, mp for pm. But so George Galloway obviously recently won the by election. Made it all about the situation in gaza. Yeah. Meanwhile, monty said he will leave Foreign Policy to galloway as hes no expert in such matters. Hes standing on a platform of fan ownership for football clubs, so interesting take on it. He has also said he wants to get rid of londons ulez, which is be a vote winner. Yeah, the member for ealing will not be. Is he sorry. Is he sorry. Is he sorry. Ealing. Ealing. Yeah. Ealing. Yeah. So ealing. Yeah. So that ealing. Yeah. So that is ealing. Yeah. So that is in the territory. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but still wont have the powers to do it. But itll be a vote winner. Just saying that. You want it will do it. I like the way he says. Yeah. So hes saying i dont know much about Foreign Policy. He like hes are there any other topics he does know anything about. Considerably. Mainly football ownership of shared ownership of football clubs. So spin bowling right. So spin bowling right. Its quite hot on that. I dont know if thats a policy in the manifesto. You can buy the manifesto for about £4. Its available for you to go through. Galloway is going to stand Workers Party candidates in loads of seats, but not against jeremy corbyn. So, you know, being a putin lover pays off. And it also says in the article that Chris Williamson , whos a that Chris Williamson, whos a deputy, works on Iranian State tv. This is press tv, a tv channel that ofcom hates more than this one. Yeah. So that puts it in context. No, i remember it. It often gets brought up in conversations of that kind, isnt it, i dont know what Monty Panesar is very popular bloke and hes a sikh, right. Which is often mistaken by the, less sort of detail orientated for muslims. But its quite a different thing entirely, really i yeah. And in fact, its interesting that, you know, considering George Galloway has historically got so much, so much of his support from he stood as the sort of muslim candidate. Yeah. In places, i mean , recently, thats exactly mean, recently, thats exactly what he did, you know, making gaza his main , thing. And so, gaza his main, thing. And so, yeah, Monty Panesar being sikh, its interesting that hes hes broadening it out a little bit. Well, hes a very likeable chap or is appears to im not that bothered about cricket but people seem to like him. Hes no joey barton over to dublins fair city now leo where the girls are so pretty but the tent city less so. Yeah. So how anti image protests have grown in ireland with riots in dublin , in ireland with riots in dublin, arson attacks on proposed asylum centres and tractor blockades as the capitals skid row tent city, where they house a lot of asylum seekers, continues to grow. So this is coming as a grow. So this is coming as a political storm brews between the uk and irish governments because theyre grappling with rising immigration thats grown even more, even even higher. Recently because people, have been leaving britain because they think theyre going to theres a risk of being deported to rwanda. So theyve been going to rwanda. So theyve been going to ireland, which is seen as a sort of safer place. And because ireland designated the uk an unsafe destination , so said they unsafe destination, so said they wouldnt Deport Anyone back to the uk, now theyre frantically trying to like redo that legislation to make the uk a safe place. And i think they have , designated it safe again have, designated it safe again so they can try sending people back. But then the uk is saying, well, no, you cant, we cant send people back to france. If we cant send people back to europe, why should europe be able to send people to us . So, so yeah, people are going to be going backwards and forwards. Refugees, ratchet. Thats the rule. Yeah. Yeah. One way only. Rule. Yeah. Yeah. One way only. Yeah yeah yeah. Basically and some people are saying that ireland should take these people in because , you know, the in because, you know, the historically irelands got, sent a lot of people out, especially to america. Yeah. America and to the uk. But i mean, i think that was to culturally similar communities. Weve seen a lot of sort of social tension in ireland because of the amount of people that have come come from , people that have come come from, quite culturally distant places. Its interesting that, isnt it, in america , that it, in america, that conversation gets quite heated about how irish were bracketed , about how irish were bracketed, in the early 20th century. They werent considered white. Apparently, they were considered to be a sort of sort of subset species of, you know, in these days when there was quite a lot of really quite, now, unpalatable racial, designations and so on. And so perhaps they should be more tolerant , i dont should be more tolerant, i dont know, i dont think that they should be visited upon them. Do you be well, im not entirely convinced that that were i think were falling for a bit of a narrative here. I think ireland certainly had a problem with, immigration numbers. And theyve got a stat that 80 are coming through the border. But thats always been the case anyway. Its just easier to travel across land, isnt it . And so now i think what happened was the rwanda bill got passed and they thought, hang on, is a really good time to say this is why we should be handing them back to the uk. Right . Theyve just been making the journey through the uk anyway. It feels like its opportunistic, but also there is a rule within the eu that you can send migrants back to a safe country that they have travelled through. Well, if theyve come through. Well, if theyve come through the uk , theyve come through the uk, theyve come through the uk, theyve come through france. Yeah. I think you dont have the problem about the uk not being in the eu. So have a chat with france. So france could go through that way. But there is definitely, anger on the streets of dublin. There is and they are organising and they seem a lot less , inhibited count. Less, inhibited count. Yeah. Well, this is the thing. Irish people havent been broken yet. You know, british people have been absolutely broken. Were full of this guilt, and weve had it hammered into us and the sort of the woke punch and drums who dictate our, our culture, have told us that if you oppose or question Mass Immigration in any way, then youre a despicable racist and should never work again. Absolutely. Steve, the guardian now they say a jump in homelessness has laid bare the scale of the housing crisis and vice versa, presumably. Yeah. Homelessness jumps by yeah. Homelessness jumps by 16 in england, laying bare scale is how i thought it was. But its not, so lets define our terms so we dont know about it. This way later. Theyre talking about of no fixed abode homelessness rather than street homelessness rather than street homelessness because these are families with children. So they end up in temporary accommodation. If you want to do proper homelessness , be a single proper homelessness, be a single bloke because there is something motivating about in the back of your mind, knowing if you mess up, youre growing a big beard and drinking special brew. I think it keeps us all that little bit level of focused, but nearly 45,000 households now have nowhere to live. Its gone up 16. Its a mixture of rental sector, cost of living , all the sector, cost of living, all the things and all of them. In a little tree diagram go back to not enough houses. Its the its the same problem that causes all the same problem that causes all the problems. Do they go back to not enough houses or did they go back to too many people . I mean, if you let 1. 2 Million People into a country in a year and thats just in one yean a year and thats just in one year, never mind all the years before that, theyre also had hundreds of thousands of people coming in. Where are those people going to do that point, though, these 45,000 households would have been in a house already, so other people coming in wouldnt have usurped them. Well, then how did they get usurped if the if the problem couldnt afford a rent . Because the rent, the rent then becomes too expensive. The rent becomes expensive because theres too much demand and not enough supply. You didnt build enough houses or because you let in a Million People already. Youre already never been a yearin youre already never been a year in which youve built a new million houses in the uk. Theres never, ever been that yet. And i think that agrees with the point that the problem slowly gets baked in. Theres not, even if we have had zero on migration, theres not. There are also like more People Living as single, you know, single occupancy households and that sort of thing. But i think thats i think its the other way around. I think people are, are sharing. I mean, i shared flats right up until my 40s, which i dont think, you know, somebody from a previous generation would have done. Well. I did, but i recognised that that was my own fault. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Daily mail now, leo and theyve noticed that china has been amassing huge gold reserves for the past 18 months. And they wonder if its up to something. Yeah, this is quite worrying news. So china has has bought a huge £135 billion stockpile of gold, raising fears its preparing to safeguard its economy against western sanctions ahead of a possible invasion of taiwan. And theyve also been offloading more than 400 billion worth of us treasury bonds. So 400 billion worth of us treasury bonds. So theyre treasury bonds. So theyre trying to sort of, theyre trying to sort of, theyre trying to sort of, theyre trying to detach their economy from the dollar. And, you know, gold is, you know, the perfect sort of fungible or is it fungible or non fungible . I cant remember anyway. I think cant remember anyway. I think thats it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can spend it anywhere. Its not you know, you wont be malleable. Yeah. You wont be ductile. Its incredibly malleable and ductile. It must be fungible. You it must be fungible. You wont be, subject to sanctions or anything you cant sanction. You cant tell where it comes from. Exactly. Yeah yeah. And ukraine, this comes as ukraine has shown that the west, you know, will make a big show of support for a country that gets invaded by a dictator like xi jinping or putin, but then well get bored and stop supporting them. And also, xi jinping is 70. The demographics in china are looking pretty grim for china. So its not its not actually going to overtake america. This is probably the closest its ever going to get to comparative power with america. So this is only chance to sort of take taiwan back while he still can. Yes. Not that it will cure any of his demographic problems, but it will. I mean, well, its a its an absolutely fundamental clause in their whole sort of, their contract, their mission statement, isnt it . Yeah. It is quite interesting that that i have a couple of friends who invest in that kind of market, and theyve been observing this for a number of years that chinas, i think has been stockpiling gold even more than 18 months, which is what the mail said. And there was concern at one point that they were going to try and launch a new default currency , have a gold default currency, have a gold backed currency, which would be the first one for a very long time. You know, and like challenge dollar hegemony on that front , i dont know. What that front, i dont know. What do you think about that . Well, i, i have no idea about whether theyd be able to launch this separate. Its probably not realistic in terms of the amount of gold youd need to do that. The other available option is bitcoin. Of course, i dont know whether the chinese have considered paddling into that. That i think, well, the idea of stockpiling gold , i mean, it of stockpiling gold, i mean, it is worrying. And i think nigel farage was the face of adverts about buying gold. So we need to look in to see who hes going to invade next. But this youre right, its the perfect time. This is really the time to be worried because also theres the cover, the distraction of russia, the distraction , one of the proxies distraction, one of the proxies of iran. So this is china, russia , iran. Get north korea in russia, iran. Get north korea in there. Its the creek nations. Ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen. And is it also timed for the election in november . Do you election in november . Do you think theyll do it under cover of that . I mean, i suppose that would be quite a problematic. Yeah as well. Well, i guess if trump gets in and hes more isolationist, although republicans tend to be isolationist when theyre in opposition, and then when they get in, theyre actually a lot more, were going to beat you up. The funny thing about trump was the very first thing he did when he was president , the first kind of spanish threw in the works was to phone taiwan, wasnt it . Direct . Do you remember that . And and had addressed them as such, you know, and he provided the enormous military support to ukraine . Yes, absolutely. Yes, absolutely. Yes, absolutely. Well, Interesting Times lie ahead, the welsh meanwhile, are well aware that were going to do that in the next part. I do do that in the next part. I do apologise. We are halfway through, but we do have the welsh attack on, lying mps coming up. We also have students finding out in colombia and judging people by the quality of their rhymes. All to come and welcome back to headliners. Steve, we have the guardian now. Welshman say politicians speak with forked tongue. Yeah, well, Senate Members consider criminalising lying. Politicians right. So the plaid cymru leader, adam price , cymru leader, adam price, leading proponent, says theres a credibility gap in politics. Its become a gaping chasm. Yeah, but its you cant make it illegal. Its not going to work. Is he not seeing the world we live in right now where theres no issue of truth , whatever, no issue of truth, whatever, whichever side you think you belong to, you will believe you will stomach any old thames water floating turd to believe your guy. Your side is right. So all this will do is move that argument from social media into some courts. It has also. I mean, its not it has also. I mean, its not it might be, you know, possible to say i was in, birmingham on thursday and you werent you were in liverpool. And i suppose were in liverpool. And i suppose if you get caught on that level, you know, thats there are processes. But to say, for instance, this government is fascist or this government is communist or this government is anti semitic, or this government or appeases terrorists, or this is a woman. Yes, exactly. Some people would say, oh my god, this is definitely isnt a woman. Or other people would say, yes, this is the best kind of woman. This is the woman. And technically and legally, of course, due to some really quite extraordinary legislation, they might have the law on their side. Yeah i mean, there are caveats in the proposed bill that opinion would be, not included, that if youre speaking of a future intention, its not included. All of these things which actually basically means thered be very few. Oh, hes actually drawn up a bill. Theres some suggestion. Yeah, suggested bill, however, because if you mislead the house, thats, thats, an actionable thats a prosecutable offence, isnt it, to mislead the house. And you can be i mean, thats what Boris Johnson was accused of because he didnt correct the record at the first opportunity. So i think the system weve got actually kind of works with. Yes. Its not like you can just get away with it scot free. There are those other things that you have privilege in parliament to be able to libel and slander people. Right . Yeah. Which is, which is kind of lying in itself, because if its if its true, then its not libel, i think anyway. Isnt it. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And this is i mean , we know that this is i mean, we know that this is i mean, we know that this is i mean, we know that this is only ever going to be used to, to persecute political dissidents. Like weve seen stuff like, i mean, in america, they love this. They just, you they love this. They just, you know, they bang trump up for this instead of having to, like, tease various other things into, into federal charges. But this chap has, a particular issue with tony blair was he would be one of the was the war criminal thing. Yeah. Back in the 2000, mid 2000. So, yeah, this is a great idea. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Then he says back then it was almost laughed out of court with comments such as the prisons arent big enough. And he says i think now its coming from the margins to be seen as a serious proposition. No, the prisons are fuller. Yeah, yeah. This is idea, staying with the guardian now and the old me sowing me reaping meme has come to columbia. Columbia. Yeah. So Columbia University students, this is a university in america, not in columbia, but its one of the fancy ivy league ones , the students took over an ones, the students took over an Academic Building early on tuesday, and they now face expulsion, spokesperson for the university has said as tensions surrounding the students pro palestinian and quite anti israel, demonstrates have escalated. So the columbia spokesman said, we made it very clear that the work of the university cannot be endlessly interrupted by protesters who violate the rules, because apparently medical students have been unable to, you know, do their tasks and theyre practising and stuff because theres people blowing horns and playing, you know, bongos and stuff. Yeah, so, so theyre, theyve been sending the police in. Theyve actually been dealing, you know, theyve been quite heavy handed with these protests. Not that im saying thats a bad thing. I love seeing cops beating up students and a couple of professors as well. And professors. Theres an amazing. Theres an amazing, clip of a professor being being carted off by the cops. Help im a professor. Im a professor. And then somebody, somebody commented underneath there saying, like, you know, im a professor as the white persons. I cant breathe. So but i mean, this is, i dont know, i think the you know, theyve been calls for free speech on campus, but this sort of goes beyond free speech. And, you know, this is recognised as doing that because, theyre only doing that because, theyre only doing this, when its israel is involved. They werent doing it when syria was, was doing it or afghanistan or any other country. And theyve also had chants of things like kill the jews, which is unarguably , you know, evil is unarguably, you know, evil and discriminatory. Is unarguably, you know, evil and discriminatory. But is unarguably, you know, evil and discriminatory. But the and discriminatory. But the reason this came about is because Critical Race Theory was was allowed to flourish on campus, which is explicitly anti white. So these students have lived in an atmosphere where its perfectly fine to demonise an entire race, anti white and also amte power. They see everything through the power matrix. So whos the power matrix. So whos powerful is definitely wrong, and whos weak and vulnerable is definitely in the right. You know, there are all kinds of things were built up almost with this in mind. Its extraordinary. This is why i thought youd be in favour of the protest stopping people getting into university to slow down the learning of the things you hate more of this. Yeah, but i think every single time we talk about one of these, its simple , one of these, its simple, right, to protest. So protest, not right to break the law. You break the law, you get carted off by the police. It seems really simple. Absolutely. And not disrupt other people who are trying to learn as well. I know everyone will go like, but my cause is so important. I have to break the law. Everyone thinks that and also, i mean University College in america is so expensive of, you know, the fees that they are going to have paid and not get back. Presumably if they get turfed out, its going to be. But then the universities are going to lose that money as well from kicking people out. Its not like theyre going to pay for their third and fourth year. Yeah thats true. Well, might be some interesting opportunities to take up, second year history, steve, we have the guardian again , and it seems guardian again, and it seems a fondness for rap and drill music is being used as evidence of criminal character in a way that sondheim and sibelius just arent, rap music used as evidence in scores of trials in england and wales, study finds. Sadly, they dont mean witnesses are using the medium to give evidence and testimony. I think, you know, kind of thats the man. Hes in the court dock locking him up would be a short shock. Thats the suv be a short shock. Thats the guy. Did i stammer, put him right in the slammer. Word. Very good. Very good. But the what they mean is theyve been looking at the use of someone doing a drill music video being used in evidence against them. And i suppose against them. And i suppose theres an argument. Its not as though anyone tried to arrest johnny cash for that shooting in reno. We just presumed hed made it up. So just putting something in a song doesnt mean you did it, but this is actually used more about speaking to the character of the person. If youre the kind of person whose hobbyis youre the kind of person whose hobby is making videos about all the crimes youve done. Yeah. Does a jury of your peers think youre more likely to have done some crime . This is it. The way the story is presented and most of the voices of the guardian have foregrounded suggest that its simply the genre, like the kind of the beats and the fact that its not sung in a haltering falsetto rather than rather than the subject matter of the lyrics, which does in drill, tends to be about quite specific revenge killings and so on, isnt it . Its not even a general kind of gangster. Oh yeah, i like my guns. The police arent making this stuff up. I mean, it works as a criminal Intelligence Analyst and, you know, the police painstakingly mapped out the criminal gangs and, you know, the annoying thing about this is the annoying thing about this is the guardians coming in and saying, oh, this is racist and all the rest of it. Number one, the white people get wrapped up in this as well, no pun intended. And number two, the guardian, theyre all like these liberal milk milquetoast living in living in posh places. Theyre not going to be affected by by these gangs. I mean, what we saw in el salvador is , in we saw in el salvador is, in fact, you know, this, this, this thing that they have the joint enterprise , these, cases where enterprise, these, cases where they where they, basically prosecute people for being unked prosecute people for being linked for being in a gang with other people whove committed a crime. Yeah, its incredibly effective in stopping gang crime. Yeah, absolutely. Theres some great quotes in here, the targeted reforms to end the wide ranging criminalisation of black expressive culture. Yeah. I mean, how that is basically, i dont know what you call that the racism of low expectations, the racism of low expectations, the idea that singing almost exclusively about brutal killings is bracket black expressive culture. Yeah. But i think my favourite bit is where they said theyre against, using Police Officers as rap experts. I dont think thats what theyre doing. I thats what theyre doing. I dont think theyre critiquing the rap and locking them up for that. Oh dear leo, i expect steve will be along shortly with his correlation does not equal causation. Nonsense but before that, smartphones are rotting young peoples brains. Well, schools that ban mobile phones completely are more than twice as likely to be rated outstanding , twice as likely to be rated outstanding, a twice as likely to be rated outstanding , a study twice as likely to be rated outstanding, a study has found. Or, as steve might point out, schools that are twice as likely to be rated outstanding. Yeah. More likely to ban phone mobile phones. But yeah. So this report by the policy Exchange Think Tank found that children at secondary schools with a ban in place achieved gcse results. There are 1 or 2 grades higher, and can i just. Sorry to interrupt. That is the very best that you would hope from sending your kids to private school. Incidentally, 1 or 2 grades is literally the best thing youll get for paying 20 grand a year. Yes, you could just take the phones off them and achieve the same, the same thing. And this is despite the fact and this goes against the sort of correlation, argument that steve hasnt actually made yet are proved wrong without even having mapping out the tired of him. But the schools with complete bans had a higher proportion of pupils eligible for Free School Meals than schools with less restrictive policies. So theyre more sort of, its the michaela thing basically, isnt it . Those falling in the michaela line. Steve. Go on. Do you i mean, what are two things. Theres correlation causation. No, actually this this looks like good research. It also looks like if you look at this as cost benefit analysis, the benefit whether it is there through some non disclosed unkageis through some non disclosed linkage is worth it. The cost is not being on your phone. No. Exactly no. Exactly yeah. I mean putin can have gps jammers that stops planes. Gps jammers that stops planes. Surely the Physics Department can just stop phones and its not about whether phones are bad. Theres not a lot of research that actually proves phones are bad. Its they do distract. Distract. They definitely do distract. They definitely do distract. Thats the thing this is about. How difficult is it to learn stuff . Its actually quite difficult at school. So focus have fewer distractions. Get rid have fewer distractions. Get rid of your phones. Its interesting. Jonathan haidt, who we may have mentioned on here before, has written a book recently called the age of anxiety, i think, in which he really feels that smartphones have done a lot of damage to kids Mental Health. But this isnt Mental Health so much. This is. But he is in norway. This is. But he is in norway. The band, the band , mobile the band, the band, mobile phones and in three years, Mental Health interventions for girls dropped by 60 and bullying halved across girls and boys. Wow. Thats amazing. Wow. Thats amazing. That really is when youve actually got to bully in person. It takes effort. Yeah. And so you dont do it as much. I was always sceptical because my daughter had a mobile phone and i was anxious about it, but actually when i saw all her messages were so unbelievably sort of supportive and reassuring, all her friends would send each other little , would send each other little, oh, you look so cute. But even worse, i was like, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, shes going to encounter the real world at some point. Point. But everyone said, i look gorgeous , steve times now, and gorgeous, steve times now, and as someone once said, the more i hear about these nazi chaps, the less i like the sound of them. Thats my first joke done. Thats my first joke done. There it is. Yeah. Human remains found in hermann gorings wolfs lair home. I mean, if your home is called the wolfs lair, i think youre already on the baddie side. Weve got. I think it was adolfs home, wasnt it . And hermann had a sort of granny flat. Granny flat. I think he was. I think he was. It was in the annexe, which is a thing they probably enjoyed, five skeletons, including that of a baby alongside occult symbols, have been discovered by hobby archaeologists in adolf hitlers Eastern Centre of command. One of them was a baby. They think it might be a family. I mean, is this. This is so gross. Is this another news story put in there by joe . Lisa, it feels like this has to be made up. Hobby archaeologists as well. Another reason not to be a hobby archaeologist is that you might find this death occult thing. This is why i dont go doing me five k running in the woods because theyre always the ones who find the body. Yeah, im not into this at all, octavian bartoszewski, Something Like that. Was a member of the archaeology team. He said its archaeology team. He said its not nice. Yeah. Yeah. No kidding. It is. No kidding. It is. I mean, i dont know, you know, obviously time passes, but i think most of the nazi preoccupations are still fairly fresh in peoples minds, arent they . We know that they were into the occult. I think goering was particularly, in fact. But we dont know if they were killed by, you know, German Forces or if they were killed by soviets or poles after they took over the area, because the suggestion being that they were part of some ritual killing. Is that the sort of or just or just a family being killed . Because bartoszewski says, but why kill an entire family . I mean, is he aware of the history of germany when they lost the war . Yeah. I mean, the soviets enacted brutal revenge. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. They were also found with these things ive never heard of before. Belemnoids. Spherical or bullet shaped fossils that were often placed alongside bodies to bring them luck in the afterlife. So, you know, they werent all bad. Well, thats three down, one to go. Last section has right wing faces. If you havent had wing faces. If you havent had enough of those fritzl on the move and a wall full of bees, stick around. See you shortly and welcome back to headliners for the final section. Leo. Scientific backing for the observable reality that the gb news offices are like a casting call for desperate dan movies. So what your face says about how youll vote in the election square jawed people are more likely to have right wing views. Researchers suggest. This is stanford university, so students there have taken a taken a break from sitting with cafes on and theyve found that political beliefs can be determined based on inherent facial characteristics, and Artificial Intelligence can pick up on them. So left wingers tend to have smaller, lower faces with lips and noses that are oriented further downward towards their chins. Compared to conservatives who have large lower faces with big jaws. Because theyve got more testosterone, theyre stronger. This is true. Even the stronger. This is true. Even the women. Yeah, yeah. And if you go to the gym, you stop being a little weedy, gimpy, little left wing person and you become a total right wing. Chad. Thats true. That genuinely happens. Right wing people are strong. Right wing people are strong. Guardian carried that story a couple of years ago. They were saying that careful going to the gym can make you right wing. Make yourself. Make yourself. Youll get self sufficiency and stuff like that. Youll stop trying to show. It and stuff like that. Youll stop trying to show. It is interesting. The testosterone thing i think is exposure. Like womb exposure to androgens, as they call it, generally speaking, does change the shape of your face. Theres a chap called Edward Dutton who wrote a whole book about it. Its very interesting. And there are, you know, theres all kinds of evidence that, i mean, not phrenology, you know, not getting into skull shape like that, but there are sort of yeah, there are definitely , you yeah, there are definitely, you know, about the, the two 4d thing. Yeah. Yeah. Thats interesting. If you can hit your prostate about dave allen , i dont know about dave allen, i dont know what he was, but he was something when he, the firstly this could win the election for rishi. Yeah. Because think about yeah. Because think about this the other way around. You know correlation not causation. Know correlation not causation. This is people going, oh, i want to look like ive got a really big square jaw and i want to look like im a, you know, a thin faced, attractive person. Oh no, ill vote right wing and see if suddenly. Yeah. Unfortunately, rishi himself just doesnt kind of come into focus in that , in that focus in that, in that assessment. You see, i dont see him like that. The conservatives arent a right wing party. No tell by their faces. No tell by their faces. Gavin williamson was probably about the best chin they had on there. Oh dear. Really but i remember this, this could just save us the bother of an election, though , because both election, though, because both human assessment and i had the same results, which is scan peoples faces, get it over and done with, find out what the country thinks. Absolutely. Gerard depardieu, there was a chin and look what happened to him, steve, daily mail have what they describe as the terrifying prospect of an 89 year old man being moved out of high security prison into a normal one. For context, think about who it is, though, in says monster, Josef Fritzls lawyer insists that her client is going to be released from high security prison after repeatedly showing remorse for his crimes as Court Considers moving him to normal jail important. The headlines kind of make it look like hes going to be released. Yeah, to a normal jail, as you say, his age comes into it, but his prison really a punishment for a man who enjoyed being in a bunker. I dont know. The Regional Court dont know. The Regional Court of krems, got together to decide on whether they should undo this block of him being he should be moved to a normal prison. There was a block on it. Its going to be lifted. What do you actually have to do in life to be locked up for life . I mean, i get it. The lawyer says hes unlikely he poses no threat to society, i suppose. So hes 89. Hed struggle with the steps, but still, youve got to be punished for what you did. Yeah, but theres high security isnt about being punished. Its about whether he presents a threat to society. And 89, he clearly doesnt. Shes talking about this being a step on the pathway to being a step on the pathway to being released. So actually i agree , move to normal prison agree, move to normal prison because youre right. Hes not hes not going to get out , is hes not going to get out, is he . You know, they put a cattle grid there. He wouldnt get through it. Well obviously at this point hes in more danger himself than hes in more danger himself than he presents to society. The risk is that he would be killed. I mean, as it was in the high security prison. Yeah, hes changed his name and they put it in the article. So that helps. Yeah so that helps. Yeah i just think its ridiculous. When the mail editorialise and say, you know, the terrifying prospect of fritzl being released, you might find it sickening. You might find it sickening. You might find it immoral. Its not terrifying. Immoral. Its not terrifying. Yeah, but they probably wrote it in a hurry. Didnt have time for a thesaurus. For a thesaurus. This really is terrifying. However, leo there takes a new take on monsters, inc. In the guardian. Yeah, so a toddler in nonh guardian. Yeah, so a toddler in North Carolina told her mother, they say mom here, but im not saying that im scottish, that monsters were in her closet, but in fact, there were more than 50,000 democrats. No bees in the wall, after a visit by a Pest Control Company and multiple beekeepers, a thermal camera finally revealed where the bees had gone to this massive hive theyd built in the inside the wall of her daughters room. So they werent the bees werent coming into her daughters room like in monsters, inc, but she could still hear these bees through the wall, which mustve just. Yeah. Isnt that wasnt that the plot of the wasp factory , i plot of the wasp factory, i cant remember. Oh, that was horrific. It was the lead , the larvae were the lead, the larvae were inside. Theres a baby that had a deformed skull, so they had a fake , like, metal skull over, fake, like, metal skull over, over it. Right. And the larvae, like, were inside the. Yeah, yeah. Like, were inside the. Yeah, yeah. Brain. Yeah. Brain. Something very unseemly about that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, that was a horrible i hear about these wasps. Thats where were going to tie it up with that last minute. But weve run out of time and you dont get to do vampire facials. Im sorry. Shame, but maybe on the way home anyway, show is nearly over. Lets take another quick look at wednesdays front pages. We have the daily mail, prostate scans that could cut deaths by 40, the guardian, 22 minutes of horror. Boy killed in sword rampage. Boy killed in sword rampage. Same with the telegraph. School boy killed in daylight. Sword rampage. The times immigration rampage. The times immigration levels fall amid visas crackdown. The ai levels fall amid visas crackdown. The a news boy, 14, killed on his way to school in horror, sword attack and finally, the daily star make britain great again. Those were your front pages. Thats all we have time for. Thank you to my guest, steven leo. Steve will be back tomorrow at 11 pm. With a Lewis Schaffer and nick dixon. And if youre watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. Otherwise, thanks very much for your company. Good night. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Time for your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. Good evening to you. A different day tomorrow in the east. Well have much more cloud compared to today, whereas in the west it should be a little brighter still. Some wet weather around though across parts of wales and southwest england this evening, affecting the West Midlands too. Thats showery rain. Working into southwest scotland at the same time. A few scotland at the same time. A few showers coming into eastern england, particularly norfolk , england, particularly norfolk, suffolk and up towards lincolnshire. Many other areas, though, will be dry. Quite a mild night, temperatures in some towns and cities staying in double digits onto wednesday and a very different day across the northeast of england and eastern scotland. Much more cloud scotland. Much more cloud around. There will be some rain at times here as well, particularly across the far north east through the late morning into the early afternoon. A much brighter day though, for wales and southwest england. Well see some sunny spells for Northern Ireland and particularly western scotland, 18 degrees likely here and further south. With a bit of brightness, we might get close to 20 celsius, but in the south late on. Look at this. Some heavy rain working up from france and we could well see some big downpours and some thunderstorms, particularly through the early hours of thursday morning across southern england, maybe the midlands and parts of south wales. So some rumbles of thunder, some flashes of lightning, theyll be clearing away during thursday morning but still staying cloudy with some showers in the south on thursday. Many places elsewhere seeing some good spells of sunshine but cool and cloudy on some of these north sea coasts, but in the sunshine 20 degrees possible in western scotland. Scotland. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on well well. Well. Good evening and welcome to farage. My name is tom harwood, and im standing in for nigel. This evening. First tonight, the very latest on the horrific stabbing in north east london. 114 year old boy is dead. Four others remain in hospital. This shocking footage was released in the last hour, showing the moment the assailant was apprehended. Well have the very latest and a new constitution for the nhs this time emphasising the importance of biological sex in the organisation. What will this mean for patient care when the services themselves are already stretched . Well have that discussion and the National Crime agency has issued a warning to britains children. All teachers will be taught about the threat of sextortion to pupils across the country. This after the tragic suicide of a scottish teenager. All that to come on the programme today. But first, your news with ray addison. Thanks, tom, and good evening. Our top stories tonight video has emerged showing the moment that Police Arrested a man wielding a sword in north east london. Officers cornered him at a property, bringing the suspect to the ground with three separate taser discharges. Hes been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of a 14 year old boy. The 36 year old suspect is now in hospital. Police say theyve been unable to interview him due to his condition. Four other people were injured, including two Police Officers. Earlier, Buckingham Palace said the kings thoughts and prayers are with all those affected. With all those affected. Assistant commissioner louisa rolfe says the suspect was not known to them. The 36 year old man arrested at the scene is currently in hospital having suffered injuries when his van collided with a building. Injuries when his van collided with a building. He has injuries when his van collided with a building. He has been with a building. He has been arrested on suspicion of murder at this time. Given his injuries, we have been unable to interview him. We know there is interview him. We know there is speculation about his background , including Police Contact with him and despite urgent and extensive checks today, we have found no trace of a prior incident involving him so far. 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