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Afternoon. But is a decade in afternoon. But is a decade in power presumptuous . And indeed , power presumptuous . And indeed, how will this be delivered . What what will the labour leader say on housing . Ill have the latest and Greg Dewhurst will have the latest when it comes to the forecast. Hello there. Hello there. Good morning. Weve got some heavy rain. Met Office Warnings in force across western parts of scotland today. Brighter skies scotland today. Brighter skies eventually further south. Find out all the details coming up in the programme. The programme. Right. We are very grateful for your company this morning, right through until half past nine and you can join in any discussion as you can. Email gbviews gbnews. Com or you can tweet at. Tweet at. Gb news. Well, to our top story this morning, in israel has imposed a complete siege of the gaza strip. No power, no food , no strip. No power, no food, no gas. Everything is closed , was gas. Everything is closed, was the message from the Israeli Defence minister in response. Hamas has threatened to start killing civilian hostages if israel continues to bomb gaza. Death toll continues to rise on both sides. About 900 people have died in israel since saturdays surprise attack including 260 people who were killed by hamas gunmen at that peace Music Festival. Well , since israel began well, since israel began striking gaza in response, almost 690 people have died on the palestinian side. The leaders of france, germany, italy, the uk and the United States have released a joint statement expressing their, quote, steadfast and united support to the state of israel. Support to the state of israel. And last night, the palace of westminster was lit up in colours of the israeli flag. More than ten britons are believed to be dead or missing in israel, but the foreign secretary says he wont speculate on the number of british nationals involved. British nationals involved. Prime minister says and the Prime Minister says that the is working closely that the uk is working closely with locate and bring with israel to locate and bring any british nationals to safety i it will be an anxious time for many families who have loved onesin for many families who have loved ones in the region. Its a quite ones in the region. Its a quite complex situation on the ground. So we are working very closely with our israeli counterparts to establish the status of any british nationals on on the ground. That work is under ground. That work is under undennay as we speak. But for undennay as we speak. But for anyone who does have family or friends in the region, the most important thing for them to do is follow the Foreign Office advice, but also the advice of the israeli home command tensions remain high as demonstrations break out right across the world. And pro israel rallies have been held in the streets of chile. As you can see on your screens here, as well as in paris and brussels. And in colombia. There have also been pro palestinian protests in new york, buenos aires and london, the metropolitan police are reporting hate crimes against the Jewish Community. Well, speaking last night at the United Synagogue in london, rishi sunak said attempts to stir up Community Tensions will not be tolerated in modern britain. Britain. I that at moments like i know that at moments like this , when the jewish people are this, when the jewish people are under attack in their homeland , under attack in their homeland, jewish people everywhere can feel less safe. Weve already feel less safe. Weve already seen vile words on our streets and attempts to stir up Community Tensions. As i say , Community Tensions. As i say, not here, not in britain , not in not here, not in britain, not in our country , not in this century our country, not in this century. But there are tensions right around the world. Here to discuss those, robert fox, defence editor at the Evening Standard and i volatile is all of this in terms of the rest of the world very just to pick out one of the capitals there buenos aires. Buenos aires has a considerable Jewish Community and we have just heard on your roundup there, there are pro palestinian demonstrations, there are interfaith rallies. And i think that that where the Prime Minister, our Prime Minister rishi sunak, is right to warn warn about the warning about this very strong palestinian pro Palestinian Movement in the student population. And it it could be population. And it it could be real trouble. And thats why its very interesting that the big leaders of europe, including uk, have got together and said, look , we must defend the right look, we must defend the right of the israeli people for self defence. And this is what its about it its almost that the human rights industry at one end has looked at the pro palestinian thing. The grievances of the palestinian population and they havent been treated well. That must be said. But in no way do i want to share things out, given the atrocities that occurred over the weekend. But eamonn and isabel, it is very difficult as an analyst, as a reporter whos reported from these places to stand in the middle ground on this one, we are looking at at something that you know, sociologists describe as a wicked problem, a problem with no obvious solution. The problem of the impact that palestinian populations , their palestinian populations, their continuing resentment, and the israelis who have come and settled this land, whos independence as a state, was guaranteed from 1948 on, how do those palestinians end up in gaza . Well see a map here of where where gaza is and this this tiny bit of land with a population of 2 million or 2. 3, 2. 3, and its going up. But i started working there. It was under half a million. But why . Why why do People Choose to be there . I not really. I not really. Its necessity. It is. It is always been very particular there. Its very particular. If you go back to the Old Testament and the bible, goliath, i think, came from gaza. And theyre came from gaza. And theyre always as somewhat always seen as somewhat different and it has always been a hot potato since the wars of israeli independence began in 47, 48. That is after the 67 war. Wanted to share it out with egypt. One of the founders of israel said that its almost like the other side of the moon. It is so difficult. One thing that we must stress , given that that we must stress, given that theyre talking about a state of siege , its in a more or less siege, its in a more or less a state of siege anyway. Environmentally, its extremely challenged. The natural source of fresh water have been running out. Sewage has been regularly in the streets. And the people in the streets. And the people who express it greater sympathy to me recently being there. I mean, its about five, six, seven, eight years ago was in one of those very kibbutz opposite. They were aware of whats going on and had a lot of sympathy. But now how youve got this absolutely toxic mix of this absolutely toxic mix of this completely unexpected command under attack on the israeli people. As it turned out, its interesting you talk about the reaction around the world. And just to give this a kind of gb focus, you know, we were heanng of gb focus, you know, we were hearing yesterday from the chief rabbi in the uk saying its hard to find a jewish family in this country that hasnt been touched by tragedy, massacre. By this tragedy, this massacre. We about people being we hear about people being burned to death in kibbutzes in parts the weekend parts of israel over the weekend. But reaction was very. And but the reaction was very strong from palestinian supporters , people who were out supporters, people who were out on the streets last night outside the Israeli Embassy , the outside the Israeli Embassy, the likes of which i dont think ive seen in this country. Ive ever seen in this country. Well, exactly. Well, exactly. Mean, i think it goes on i mean, i think it goes on from what i was saying, that it is a cycle of revenge and retribution. And this is why it is absolutely going nowhere. We is absolutely going nowhere. We look at the telegraph headline, israel no , no choice but to israel no, no choice but to seize gaza. Actually, even given the site, israel itself is a relatively small country. Its very interesting. Size of wheels. Ive just had a correspondent on whatsapp with a good friend there in journalism and he was saying, no, my family is safe. But we know five families that have lost loved ones or have had loved ones kidnapped. It is so small. It is loved ones kidnapped. It is so small. It is so impact. Loved ones kidnapped. It is so small. It is so impact. And small. It is so impact. And theres a call out of 300,000 of reservists , but can they really reservists, but can they really hold gaza . What do they do . And hold gaza . What do they do . And the operating incursion into gaza from israel, is that what theyre planning . Yes. Are they planning an invasion . Invasion . I cant second guess them because this has a very unhappy history. Gaza regained independence from , um, israeli independence from, um, Israeli Occupation because they didnt want to go near it in 2005, 2006. And they had the election there have been four this is the fifth Major Military operation. They have gone badly. Israeli troops do not like being on the ground in gaza. It is alien territory and they cannot hold it. And the idea that, you know, you can drive the palestinians out and mr netanyahu , who said, out and mr netanyahu, who said, oh, everybody should leave , but oh, everybody should leave, but where where do they go . The Mediterranean Sea . Im not being facetious because the obvious way out is the south into egypt i l egypt egypt doesnt want them. The first minister of scotland, humza yousaf his in laws are trapped there. They would like to see their parents there. And now they parents there. And now they cant get out. They cant. Its always been the problem, been a big problem. So how do you get in and out of gaza . Of gaza . Well, this is part of the big question, isnt it . How on earth they got all that weaponry, all that intelligence, all that ability to launch that of ability to launch that kind of attack been attack when they have been occupied long . And you occupied for so long . And you know, i suppose the question with the siege was really interesting. Antonio interesting. What Antonio Gutierrez the united gutierrez from the united nafions gutierrez from the United Nations said yesterday. Right be careful. Diplomatic language saying that he recognised the legitimate grievances of the palestinians and he also recognised israels security concerns, but reminded israel that military operations must be conducted in strict accordance with international and humanitarian law. I mean , he was humanitarian law. I mean, he was walking on eggshells, wasnt he . But you can see why. But that is the point about gaza. I mean , how earth were those , how on earth were those materials getting in and out . Well, the thing. They well, thats the thing. They did it. And theres now an accusation of the israelis that accusation of the israelis that a lot of it was happening hidden in plain sight. One of the things was struck youve things that i was struck youve asked 4 questions, asked me about 3 or 4 questions, which id to love answer, i which id to love answer, but i dont think got time. But dont think weve got time. But on this, what was so interesting, a of interesting, seeing a lot of those young who are pumped those young men who are pumped up, they had as if they up, they had looked as if they had done a lot of bodybuilding. They trained they were commando trained commando trained, at least a thousand, possibly thousands. Thousand, possibly thousands. How happen . And there how did that happen . And there must been professional must have been professional training as well as the material. They make a lot themselves. Thats one of the things that they learned to how do and they smuggle in in parts, usually smuggle it in in parts, usually through tunnels. But through through the tunnels. But theyve to get it in the theyve managed to get it in the problem that has been so toxic to theyve been under to is that theyve been under a dictatorship of hamas. Hamas got elected into power in 2006 and has never shown any sign that it wants to give it up. Have an election all over again. Its the same on the west bank with a different Palestinian Authority the same on the west bank with a different under inian authority the same on the west bank with a different under mahmoud ority the same on the west bank with a different under mahmoud abbas. Of fatah under mahmoud abbas. They are they talk about democracy, but theyre pretty averse to carrying it out when you come back. Im very keen to find out. The i suppose the grip, the grasp, the influence that russia or china would have on all of this. And what world reaction would be against against all of that. So russia, china, iran and the arabs. Weve got to talk about that. But i would like to answer your question when i come back about access , only 7 or 8 back about access, only 7 or 8 Access Points and only two are used mainstream in and out. And the gazans wanted to do it because actually they wanted to go to earn money. Go to israel to earn money. So complicated. So complicated. Robert really appreciate your analysis. As we appreciate your analysis. As we say, well talk about this for an hour. Well take your comments and calls on this and then well have you back after 7 00. You very much indeed i robert fox well, whilst all of this is unfolding in the middle also labour middle east, it is also labour conference up in liverpool and in big speech today, the in his big speech today, the leader, starmer, will leader, sir keir starmer, will promise a decade of National Renewal he promises renewal as he promises a generation of new towns to get britain building again. Under these proposals, state backed companies with compulsory purchase powers would snap up land at capped rates in order to approve affordable Home Ownership. Ownership. Well, our deputy Political Editor, tom hannood is there for us. Will this be popular, tom . Its certainly an audacious plan and it depends how the labour party goes about doing it. Its not the first time in the history of the United Kingdom that new towns have come about. Well remember places like Milton Keynes that were developed in the 1950s and 60s and clearly there is some room there for the labour party to look at on the m11 corridor and in places perhaps around cambridge , oxford, in the wider cambridge, oxford, in the wider south east, commuter belt as well. The labour party suggests that therell be a six month Consultation Session in the First Six Months of any fresh Labour Government to look at the suitable sites for developing these new towns. Although of course there may well be local opposition and this might get to the key of some of the challenges that a future Labour Government might have. The government might have. The leadership very keen to build. Leadership very keen to build. But if they take on a load of new seats, perhaps if they have a host of new rural mps, there could well be some challenges there between those who represent areas perhaps where residents dont want new construction, dont want new building, and the leadership of the labour party that wants to deliver it. This is setting the labour party up unless they deliver some pretty detailed specifics in their manifesto though for perhaps some very big parliamentary battles in their first term. Yes tom, thank you very much indeed. Very much indeed. So what time is keir starmer speaking at . Hell be speaking at 2 pm. Today. Itll be his big set piece speech and hell try and convince the people of the United Kingdom to answer the question why . Why labour . It question why . Why labour . It seems that the labour party seems that the labour party seems to understand that people have said not conservatives. Thats what all the polling tends to point to. But not yet has this party answered the question why labour winning by default is how some around sir keir starmer see the position of the labour party and so greater detail will be needed to not just have an anti conservative vote getting the labour party in, but a pro labour one. Thats the challenge of sir keir starmer at 2 00 pm and tom, the feeling that im getting out of conference so far is that they want to project the idea that they are a party who can get things done. So theres talk and talk about, say for instance, Affordable Housing or Employment Conditions , zero hour contracts conditions, zero hour contracts or whatever theyre sort of saying, right enough talk, we will get this done. Theyre nailing their flag to the mast here and will that go down . Well this this is an incredibly staged , managed event. Staged, managed event. Listening to Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, in her speech yesterday, it was interesting how she did mention things as you say, like Affordable Housing and indeed some of these bands on zero hours contracts. I have to say , hours contracts. I have to say, there is nothing new in her speech. She was going back over previous announcements that the labour party have made. And in that show shows the sort of cautiousness with which the labour party is approaching this conference. They know that theyve got a large lead in the polls. They dont want to disrupt that status quo. And so disrupt that status quo. And so what were hearing time and time again, what we heard in Angela Rayners speech, what we heard in Rachel Reeves speech was re announcements of things that had already been declared. And had already been declared. And the watchword of this conference so far has been caution. And it so far has been caution. And it will be absolutely fascinating to see sir keir starmer to see if sir keir starmer sticks by that tried and tested method of not being particularly controversial, not being particularly new, or if there is perhaps a rabbit or two. In his speech this afternoon , because speech this afternoon, because clearly what the labour party is trying to do is present a sense of it being the grown up party ready for government. Its fascinating this year compared to previous years , more people to previous years, more people here wearing suits, more big corporate sponsors around this conference. And indeed a greater sense of perhaps responsibility here. This is the first conference where theres been a sustained ordained lead in the polls running up to it. And frankly , the labour party dont frankly, the labour party dont want to mess it up. Tom, thank you. Appreciate that. Rachel reeves yesterday , that. Rachel reeves yesterday, very pumped up. Very, very confident. Be interested in your views, what you thought of her speech yesterday and previewing Keir Starmers speech today. Gb Keir Starmers speech today. Gb views gbnews. Com or you can tweet at gb news the time. 618 youre watching breakfast on gb news. Lets bring you up to date with the latest on whats been happening in the middle east. Bombing of gaza israels bombing of gaza continued overnight in response to the rocket attack on saturday. According to reports , saturday. According to reports, 900 israelis have died, including 260 people who were killed by hamas gunmen at that peace Music Festival. Gazas Health Ministry said at least 690 palestinians have been killed in airstrikes. Killed in airstrikes. Israel has declared a complete siege of the gaza strip, cutting off electricity , strip, cutting off electricity, food, fuel and water to the region. The United Nations says that at least seven medical centres have been damaged. The palestinian authorities have warned the siege will lead to a new humanitarian crisis in gaza, adding that not all palestinians support a hamas. More than ten british citizens are feared dead or missing. 20 year old Nathaniel Young has been killed during fighting. He was serving with the Israeli Defence force. Hamas the Israeli Defence force. Hamas has threatened it will execute civilians and soldiers that have been kidnapped in return for any new israeli bombing of civilian homes in gaza. Well it was a homes in gaza. Well it was a gorgeous day weather wise, wasnt it, yesterday in the uk . Very sunny, really. Well, certainly down south. Im not sure about up north. Lets find out from Greg Dewhurst, shall we . Up. We . How today shaping up. Hello there. Good morning. We . How today shaping up. Greg there. Good morning. We . How today shaping up. Greg dewhurst. Od morning. We . How today shaping up. Greg dewhurst. Welcome|g. We . How today shaping up. Greg dewhurst. Welcome to im Greg Dewhurst. Welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. Weve rain forecast. Weve got heavy rain across scotland through today, bringing disruption. Bringing some disruption. Therell be some spells of hazy sunshine elsewhere is sunshine elsewhere but it is quite a start this morning. Quite a grey start this morning. Some low cloud mist and fog slowly burning as we go slowly burning back as we go through morning, but taking slowly burning back as we go thrtime. Morning, but taking slowly burning back as we go thrtime. Canning, but taking slowly burning back as we go thrtime. Can see, but taking slowly burning back as we go thrtime. Can see thet taking slowly burning back as we go thrtime. Can see the heavyg its time. We can see the heavy rain northwest scotland. Rain across northwest scotland. This pushing its way this slowly pushing its way south eastwards and met office rain warning in here. 20 rain warning in force here. 20 to 50mm of rain possible leading to 50mm of rain possible leading to some local flooding in places cloudier further north, southwards across northern parts of england. But the best of the hazy once again , hazy sunshine once again, central and southern parts of england and wales, 23, possibly 24 degrees. That heavy rain continues to slowly push its way south eastwards through tuesday evening. The met Office Warning eases during the evening time as that rain clears , showers that rain clears, showers following and then rain turning heavy as it moves into wales, into the midlands during the early hours. Southeastern areas staying. Staying generally dry. Temperatures turning fresher across north. Single figures across the north. Single figures here holding up 14 to 16 celsius. Further south. So if this cloudy, wet zone across central parts of the uk wednesday morning, this generally slowly moving south eastwards as we head through the day. Quite a muggy feel to things here. Brighter across Northern Ireland, Northern England into scotland, quite england into scotland, but quite a cool, blustery north westerly breeze here some showers breeze here with some showers filtering in. Temperatures here lower recent days 12 to 15 lower than recent days 12 to 15 up to around 21 towards the southeast to see you soon. Still to come, could patchy grass defeat england in the cricket world cup . Paul coyte will tell you. Hello. Good morning. Wherever youre watching , wherever youre youre watching, wherever youre listening, this is breakfast in gb news with eamonn and isabel. Soon to be joined by paul coyte with all the cricket news. Yes, your speciality. Absolute yeah, ive got more than cricket. Of course you do. We were just teasing the cricket. Okay, thats all. Okay. You can start with Something Else if youd prefer. Lets should we start with euros . Lets start with the euros. What do you want to say . Heard this proposal for we heard this proposal for the cup and its all over the world cup and its all over the world cup and its all over the world. And it met with a lot of criticism. Correct. Now were getting the ,2,028 and theyre giving a bit here and a bit there and a bit everywhere because it seems that whenever we for anything, we never we bid for anything, we never quite it. We bid for anything, we never quiand it. We bid for anything, we never quiand sot. We bid for anything, we never quiand so for the euros 20, 28, and so for the euros 20, 28, it was decided that it would be a combined bid. Uk and ireland, everybody gets a few games that therefore a bit in scotland, bid in wales, bid in england, bid in 28 matches in england , six 28 matches in england, six matches in scotland, wales and ireland, five matches in Northern Ireland casement Northern Ireland at casement park, which believe is not park, which i believe is not built, is still not built built, is not be still not built yet. You that for a fact. Yet. Tell you that for a fact. So will it be ready for 2028 . Do we think going to be we think thats going to be ready . Idea. Ready . No idea. A gaelic. Its a gaelic ground. Thats what its being built for, isnt it . But thats what the bid is based on. But this is the bid is based on. But this is the bid is based on. But this is the bid in the world the easiest bid in the world because although uefa are going to announce the winning to announce who the winning bid is they do . Is and you know what they do . They it like fifa, and then they do it like fifa, and then they go the winning bid is they go and the winning bid is theres only one name because turkey actually bidding, turkey were actually bidding, but now theyve pulled out because for the because theyre going for the theyre the euros theyre going for the next euros along with italy. So turkey a great country. So turkey is a great country. You you much about turkey . Ive been to turkey quite a few times. Yeah. I saw besiktas play. Sorry, i sarah you got. I had to listen, i had a slight case of besiktas when i was out there. It was cleared up in no time and everything was fine. But the shaktas yes, as well as being ailment is actually a being an ailment is actually a very known team in very well known Football Team in istanbul its a great place istanbul and its a great place to watch football. It is. To watch football. It is. It is. It is. But casement park will be a great place to watch. , i hope so. Well, i hope so. Well, i hope so. But its built. But its built. Yeah. When its built. So hopefully if it is built, therell be games. There therell be games. If not, there may another stadium, national may be another stadium, national stadium, which is the home ground linfield yeah. Ground of linfield f. C. Yeah. Which which is there. And which is, which is there. And then there would with that then there would be with that extend of extend into the republic of ireland. Ireland as well. Yes. Yes. So six games there. No, the six games in the republic as well. Oh right, right, right. Good, good, good. So anyway good 2028, so anyway its good 2028, its be announced today. We all like all get we all like we all get a little bit of something. We all get a little bit of something. So where you were thinking that a little bit thinking that maybe a little bit of is not so good, a of something is not so good, a little bit of something can do of something is not so good, a littlwgood. F something can do of something is not so good, a littlwgood. S0 mething can do of something is not so good, a littlwgood. So maybeig can do of something is not so good, a littlwgood. So maybe itsm do of something is not so good, a littlwgood. So maybe its actually you good. So maybe its actually okay. A bit of the day, okay. A little bit of the day, but thats the one thats well, that moves us onto the cricket because for theme because that was used for theme for cricket. For the cricket. So i see exactly what were doing. Exactly what you were doing. I liked it very much. So england are playing bangladesh at the moment i know as youve moment in an i know as youve been that england been across this, that england are bangladesh the are playing bangladesh at the moment world cup, the moment in the world cup, the outfield is outfield apparently is horrendous. Buttler has outfield apparently is horrethath. Buttler has outfield apparently is horrethat hes buttler has outfield apparently is horrethat hes blther has outfield apparently is horrethat hes blthe phrase said that hes used the phrase again, questioning the again, that its questioning the integrity game. Im fed integrity of the game. Im fed up this ridiculous phrase, up with this ridiculous phrase, which liverpool which means nothing. Liverpool are a week ago about are using it a week ago about its questioning the integrity in do with the in the cricket to do with the surface the surface surface is it and the surface with liverpool its to do with the refereeing. Theres something theres always something to do integrity of the game. Got protect that integrity. Always got protect the always got to protect the integrity. Other word they integrity. The other word they love in football is respect. Yes, youre not showing me respect which incident im going to you from here on in. Well, you know what, my friend . You may be a shot, friend . You may be a big shot, but works both ways. Do you but it works both ways. Do you know what im saying . A little bit. Little test to you as well. So then youve got the so thats the cricket world cup. But cricket in the olympics . Absolutely. In los angeles. In los down. Absolutely. In los angeles. In los well, nwn. Absolutely. In los angeles. In los well, there. 2028 as well. Well, there. 2028 as well. Well, there. 2028 as well. Ive tried to explain cricket to before theyre to americans before and theyre going hear its a little like going to hear its a little like golf, isnt it . And you go, well, absolutely well, actually, its absolutely nothing so nothing like golf whatsoever. So cricket, he was in the cricket, last time he was in the olympics was and hes olympics was in 1900, and hes now being brought back t20. Now being brought back as t20. Theyre going bring theyre actually going to bring back see, the thing is, theyre going all old sports. You going with all old sports. You know, like breakdancing know, it was like breakdancing and pong, lacrosse and ping pong, lacrosse breakdancing. Breakdancing and ping pong, lacrosse breakdanolympics breakdancing and ping pong, lacrosse breakdanolympics. Breakdancing and ping pong, lacrosse breakdanolympics. Yeah. Dancing and ping pong, lacrosse breakdanolympics. Yeah. Yeah. G is in the olympics. Yeah. Yeah. Was in the last olympics. No, no. But what im saying is that they were new ones, so whereas now theyre going like, to now theyre going like, back to the future. The future. The future. Back to the future. So its theyre going to bring lacrosse, was, know, lacrosse, which was, you know, its very old american sport its a very old american sport going 1800s, as if going back to the 1800s, as if they got enough sports they havent got enough sports in olympics , you think just in the olympics, you think just stick to track and field. Do you stick to track and field. Do you think so . Of well that to me is of course. Well that to me is what olympics about. Track what olympics is about. Track and field. Its only im its only because im a lacrosse specialist. And so therefore, thought, know, therefore, i thought, you know, apparently the apparently thats one of the fast do you remember fast the ball. Do you remember we were talking about how fast a ball travel and golf is ball can travel and golf is probably the fastest it probably the fastest because it goes 200 miles an hour. Goes about 200 miles an hour. Lacrosse when they whip that ball very well. You had an olympic sport if you had an olympic sport to to take part in, you to do or to take part in, you could lacrosse. So that would could do lacrosse. So that would be well, actually dance, think. But i dont think dance is going to make it shooting for me. Would it be shooting . Shooting . Yeah. Really yeah. Well, the well, shootings in the commonwealth it . But Commonwealth Games isnt it . But i they use it for i dont think they use it for the olympics. They i think they do. I think they do. Pigeon. I think they do. You pigeon. I think they do. You do geon. I think they do. You do iton. I think they do. You do it in the winter olympics. Dont they. They do all oh yeah. Yeah. All that skiing. Oh yeah. Yeah. Id to go shooting id quite like to go shooting with because im an all with you because im an all right as well. Right shot as well. Yeah, like to see whos better. Do you know what id like to do . Id like to have targets full of all the people we hate. No, no, not a good idea. No, no, not a good idea. But a big smiley face on the clay pigeons. Can do. Can pretend they can do. They can pretend theyre pigeons and they can do bunnies on ground. You bunnies on the ground. And you can them as well. Can powder them as well. Bounce along. They bounce along. They bounce along. Bounce bit like the bounce sounded a bit like that. That a bit uncomfortable. Sorry. No, you dont imagine theyre its just a theyre bunnies. Its just a different way. Like bunnies. Lets they fly like bunnies. Lets talk about a doggy. Right. I love a dog on a pitch. Okay this. This often happens. Well a Mexican Division game mexican second Division Game between oaxaca dorados. Now, look the dog. Oh, now, look at the dog. Oh, theres the dog. I love a dog on a pitch. Whats ball . Whats the ball . Whats the ball . Alebrije a winning 4 0. Alebrije has a winning 4 0. The appears. Now, watch the dog appears. Now, watch this. Now, not only does he nudge, actually manages to nudge, he actually manages to grab the which is grab hold of the ball, which is pretty look. Off pretty impressive. Look. And off he so everybodys he goes. So everybodys chasing the ball. Three, minutes the ball. Three, three minutes time. Added on, which probably then onto because then turned onto seven because they get the ball off then turned onto seven because thejdog. Get the ball off then turned onto seven because thejdog. Everybodys ball off then turned onto seven because thejdog. Everybodys chasing the the dog. Everybodys chasing the dog. This in time of toil and trouble and worry. All we need trouble and worry. All we need to see sometimes is a dog on a football pitch. Just going to the goal. Is it going to put the ball in the goal . Well it was over seven hours. They were chasing this. They were chasing this. No, but you know what . No, but you know what . The fact that the ball is in its mouth would make it easier for to launch a tackle for me to launch a tackle because be worried about because id be worried about them. Them nipping. Thats true. Yeah, thats true. Yeah, thats true. Know, teeth are busy. So, you know, teeth are busy. Thats good with me. Ive got to tell you, though, a size five football a dog a size five football for a dog to get his teeth round, that is pretty impressive. A big mouth you have to have a big mouth like you do for that. But you know, what are they all bothering about . Let the dog have and off you have the ball. Yeah and off you go. And then the game with go. And then start the game with another everybodys another ball and everybodys happy. Chasing dog. Everybody enjoys that. I mean, happened. Theres mean, it happened. Theres a famous old jemmy greaves clip. Do remember that . Think it do you remember that . I think it was the 62 world where was from the 62 world cup where a grabbed hold of the ball. A dog grabbed hold of the ball. Everybody and everybody was chasing it. And jemmy cajole the dog, jemmy managed to cajole the dog, took under arm and took the dog under his arm and then the ball out. It was then took the ball out. It was a lovely man. Thats all they needed to do. Thats all they needed. Thats all they needed. I hope was fine. I hope the dog was fine. I hope they were nice to the. Thank you, mr paul. Appreciate paul ill be back appreciate it. Paul ill be back in an hours time. N ext next welcome back. It is 630. We were just talking breakfast. Yeah, dont mind us. Yeah, dont mind us. What do we were talking about . What were we talking about . What were we talking about . Carol mcgiffin here and i were talking about when you used to get on aeroplanes, you got gifts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a little warm flannel. No no, were talking of shampoos i no, were talking about a fountain pen. Oh, come on, now. And things oh, come on, now. And things like in economy. No, no, no like in economy. No, no, no economy. What is that . Its when you turn right. Its when you turn right. Right. Right. Right. So we were saying what . I used to work for the holiday program, and one of the nice things was occasionally you would get a perk up into first class and they would give you, like, real gifts. Like, real gifts. Oh, yeah. And caviar. We oh, yeah. And caviar. We champagne. We were talking about carl. Ive ever been in first class, but carl covid and she was brandishing this and i and i then took mine out. Then took mine out. This is a gift from emirates airline. Look at you two. Yes look at you two. Yes so. And its the best comb. So. And its the best comb. Its the best. Its brilliant. Its brilliant. Its brilliant. Its brilliant. Its absolutely brilliant. So there we are. We keep them to this day. Oh, thats. Thats what you get. No, i did as a child, collect the wash bags that my dad would come back from. Yeah. As a child you. Oh they sell on ebay now for a lot of money, father would give them to me. No, i didnt get. They didnt do wash bags on flights. I get. Anyway, parents used to anyway, my parents used to go to like, you to events like, you know, i dont know what at night, whatever. And they would come back umbrellas, back with little umbrellas, cocktail yeah. Cocktail ball things. Yeah. To love those. I used to love those. I used to love those. And they would give you them the day and youd think, the next day and youd think, this amazing. The next day and youd think, thi yeah,nazing. The next day and youd think, thi yeah, shesj. The next day and youd think, thi yeah, shes amazing. Yeah, shes amazing. Yeah, shes amazing. I dont think my kids have ever cocktail umbrella. Ever seen a cocktail umbrella. We to bring back a cocktail umbrella. Yeah. Yeah. Heres yeah. Heres heres yeah. Heres heres jim schneider, whos with this schneider, whos with you this morning. He said, what have i got myself embroiled in today . But to see you, james but very good to see you, james and here and theyre and carl are here and theyre both through both going through the newspapers, do that newspapers, so lets do that now with the we james, with with the we start, james, with you. We with guardian you. We start with the guardian and front page. The whole thing, israel , theyre saying the siege israel, theyre saying the siege of gaza as hamas threatens the captives. Captives. So most of the reporting in not just the guardian so most of the reporting in notjust the guardian across so most of the reporting in not just the guardian across the papers today seems to be ignonng papers today seems to be ignoring the fact or refusing to call out the fact that the israeli state announced that it was going to commit war crimes and then presented evidence on social media that it was committing war crimes against the besieged population of gaza 2. 3 Million People, the majority of whom are refugees from their own land , half of from their own land, half of whom are children , whose homes, whom are children, whose homes, whose homes , whose hospitals, gyms. I know, i know. We all know i know, i know. We all know that. We all know that. We all know that. We all know that. What what what we can say is everything is off the table. Is everything is off the table. Is everything null and void when you get a Music Festival on saturday invaded by saturday that is invaded by terrorists shoot and rape terrorists who shoot and rape and kidnap over 200 people, the reason why we have international law, the reason why we have established for what our war crimes, what is collective punishment . It is not so that these things can be wiped away and forgotten about when there is another atrocity respond to. Another atrocity to respond to. The are war crimes that the these are war crimes that are being committed with british bombs and british bullets and being supported by our government. Also the governments of the eu and the us. And it is atrocious that our Parliament Last night was decked out in support of war crimes. Now, does that mean that there can be any justification for attacking civilians , for attacks on in civilians, for attacks on in this Music Festival of course not. But the idea that we should be standing here and justifying because thats what it is, justifying war. Antonio gutierrez had had it very, very well when he said there is absolutely no justification for involving civilians. And he also reminded civilians. And he also reminded people about you have to operate within international law. Within strict international law. But the state of israel exists because of its security. It is because of its security. It is very sensitive issue for israel. Its sovereign territory was invaded. We know that the death toll is more than 900 people since saturday. How are they supposed to exercise lies and which the british and the west have come out and say, how are they supposed to just react and respond . They are allowed to do that. So legitimate, lee, youre not legitimate. Not legitimate. Lee allowed to engage in collective punishment of population , military targets. Population, military targets. Youre not allowed to engage in collective announcing when the strikes are going to be into gaza. Thats what the israelis know. Netanyahu has said were not to tap to going do the tap announcements anymore. They have said that they are that the a minister from likud, the ruling party, has said this is going to be a nakba, a catastrophe like 1948, worse than 1948. They how should israel respond to what happened this weekend . So in your view . So i would look to the paper of record of israel, haaretz , of record of israel, haaretz, whose Editorial Committee yesterday said that the atrocities that were carried out over the weekend and are continuing saying that, yes, the atrocities that were carried out over the weekend are the responsibility of Benjamin Netanyahu and his governments policies. This is the paper of record of israel , haaretz. That record of israel, haaretz. That is their editorial that is their editorial position because violence like youre justifying. No, i am not. No, i am not. Violence begets violence. If you are going to displace people from from their land, put them in an open air prison, 2. 3 Million People under the most extreme blockade in the entire world. This when it says complete, it already is a siege. This is an occupied land and an occupied the tories. Again, he recognised their legitimate concerns. The tories legitimate concerns. The tories is also recognised the legitimate security concerns of israel. If it doesnt have its safe state of israel, what is the point of israel . Thats why its there. And this was the biggest attack on israelis since the holocaust. So there is they have a right to defend themselves. So yeah, everyone has a right to defend themselves. And also the Palestinian People also have a un mandated right as all occupied and colonised people do to struggle for Self Determination and National Liberation by any available means within international law. Now is attacking is attacking a concert that with your argument you know the premise of all of the responses to 9 11 were immoral illegal by by that reasoning. Reasoning. And we saw how the United States responded horrifically, horrifically trillions of dollars spent million of lives dead, hundreds of millions of lives absolutely ruined. If israel responds in the way that the us responded to 9 11, we should condemn it. We should not stand side by side. We should not put fonnard our diplomatic support and we should not offer and our not offer our bombs and our bullets to kill. Are you saying that israel shouldnt itself or not . Shouldnt defend itself or not . What im saying. But theres a lot people out there lot of people out there defending moment defending hamas at the moment and the palestinian attack. And the palestinian attack. Theyre literally on the on the streets of london defending it. So hold on. You know, how do you justify that . Okay. Two things. Okay. Two things. Firstly, youre getting very technical. No, no. Please no, no, no, no. Please respond what saying, respond to what im saying, because saying is very because what im saying is very precise and very correct. And do not say that all the people protesting yesterday in britain and where else around the world against just the state covid extension of war crimes committed against the Palestinian People after 75 years of crimes committed against them are doing so because they support terrorism. Thatis because they support terrorism. That is not true and that is itself racist. That is itself a form of anti palestinian bigotry because you allied always into saying a lot of people were offended. And i think to some of the protests because of the timing, then they felt it was inappropriate. Its be but can i just just put the alternative argument because this is what they would say. And there was a lot people very upset and we lot of people very upset and we heard from chief rabbi in heard from the chief rabbi in london saying, me london yesterday saying, show me a this country a jewish family in this country who not been affected by who have not been affected by the atrocities. And were talking being talking about children being taken talking taken hostage. Were talking about ladies taken about elderly ladies being taken hostage , shot at point blank, hostage, shot at point blank, men being decapitated on film. Men being decapitated on film. All of this footage very , very all of this footage very, very distressed and upset jewish people. And to then have people protesting. How long is just inappropriate. What is okay after thats what they would say after thats what they would say after gaza is being flattened. The british, the Palestinian Ambassador to britain, six members of his family yesterday were killed in gaza. How long were killed in gaza. How long should they wait . How long should they wait . How long should they wait for justice . How long is the appropriate amount of time to say britain, which is completely whose war crimes is britain complicit in . Are we as british citizens, are we complicit in what hamas is . No, we are not. We are complicit in what is happening right now to strip that, you are almost apologise or an apologist for hamas. Do you recognise them as a terrorist organisation . I recognise that in law they are a terrorist organisation. Do you recognise them . Im not asking you in law because that just that draws the line in the sand for a lot of people who will that you are just will just see that you are just trying justify. Trying to justify. Am not. No i am not. Listen i am not. No i am not. Listen to every single word i have said at no point have i ever justified terrorism, terrorism by palestinians or the terrorism which being carried out by which is being carried out by the of course the israeli state. Of course i do of course i do not. But do not. Of course i do not. But it is an absurd and fiction to take one set of crimes which are terrible and to say these are terrible and to say these are terrible crimes and then to take these whole other crimes over here and say, no, those are fine, justified, fine. Those are the justifiable response because they have to defend themselves. I dont think youll find anyone justify women i dont think youll find any children justify women i dont think youll find any children ju caught men i dont think youll find any children ju caught up n i dont think youll find any children ju caught up in and children being caught up in this or even justify a war on either side. It isnt. But but, but but it isnt. But but, but lets go back to the roots. And lets go back to the roots. And lets not just do this like on the one hand, on the on the other hand thing, right . Why are gazans in an open air prison . Why why is there no Peace Process . Why is hamas, the air process . Why is hamas, the air power in gaza , could it there power in gaza, could it there wont be a Peace Process . Wont be a Peace Process . Could it could it be could it be. Could it be. Could it. Could it be. Could it. Could it could conversation. Could it be. Butjust conversation. Could it be. But just to say, you know, there cant be a negotiated there cant be peace discussions when you have these kinds atrocities happening, kinds of atrocities happening, the actions of hamas have set back a generation. Israel of people in gaza. Israels People Living in gaza. Israels israelis of whom who will not support hamas, that that may well, course, be true. Well, of course, be true. You know that thats a thats a question for history to tell. And absolutely well be and that may absolutely well be true. Finance true. But israels finance minister has said that hamas is for them and asset because they have no legitimacy , as youre have no legitimacy, as youre saying, in the international community. And theyre their enemy. Is the Palestinian Authority, which is why also netanyahus policy has been to decapitate the alternative palestinian leadership. And palestinian leadership. And effectively support effectively support hamas. There is no Peace Process under way. And the reason why theres no peace, a Peace Process undennay is not on the side of the palestinians. Thatis the side of the palestinians. That is on the side of Israeli Government policy, as stated again and again and again, this is a this is a government which wants to annexe those. What youre saying and i hear what youre saying and what passionately saying. What youre passionately saying. And the past, have been and in the past, you have been an adviser to Jeremy Corbyn who couldnt get the message across. Why it that britain doesnt why is it that britain doesnt want to listen to the message that you and mr corbyn would have had . Have had . Well, jeremy can speak for himself. Ill speak for myself. I think that most people listening to what i have said , listening to what i have said, if they go and look at the evidence, will agree with that. And also, if you look at the polling of Public Attitudes towards israel and palestine, despite the absurd Media Coverage that there is over the issue , you will find that the issue, you will find that the british people are in general terms on the side of peace and justice. Well, just to just to draw a line at the end, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom saying this isnt for saying this isnt a time for equivocation. Unequivocal. Equivocation. I am unequivocal. I israel. He said i stand with israel. He said that know at moments like this that i know at moments like this when the jewish people are under attack jewish attack in their homeland, jewish people less people everywhere can feel less safe. Already seen vile safe. We have already seen vile words our streets attempts words on our streets in attempts to Community Tensions. To stir up Community Tensions. I say not here, not in britain, not in our country, not in this century. Century. Okay. With that, we will take a break. Time, 6 45, and a break. At the time, 6 45, and well back and well well be back and then well hear from you. Thank you. Thank you. Theres no brake. Theres no brake. Worked us up brake. Ive worked us all up into theyre to into forever. Theyre about to break. To you. The break. So lets turn to you. The labour conference today, Labour Party Conference today, say, keir starmer. Big speech. Yeah, a bit of light relief, really. I mean, on the edge of my seat, waiting for starmers speech. I my seat, waiting for starmers speech. I think its about 2 00, isnt it . More electioneering, more promises , is more will do. More promises, is more will do. This will do that. When in actual fact its the same. Its actual fact its the same. Its the same stuff. The same stuff the same stuff. The same stuff as the tories said. But the interesting thing about the labour party is now theyre trying to sell themselves as the, the, the, the party with economic credibility. And i find economic credibility. And i find that quite amusing. I mean, i dont think that the tories are particularly credible in the economic area either , but for, economic area either, but for, for labour to come out and say that and to say that they are going to restore economic credibility and give the country its future back is just laughable. When you think how laughable. When you think how long have they not been in power . Quite a long time. But who doesnt remember the chancellor at the time . I think it was the chancellor, liam byrne, with leaving the note saying theres no money left and thatis saying theres no money left and that is the problem with labour and the problem with with real socialists they like margaret socialists is they like Margaret Thatcher said, they out of thatcher said, they run out of other eventually other peoples money eventually and. The tories are and they did. But the tories are worse. You know, they worse. I mean, you know, they just on a printing spree just went on a printing spree and created inflation, and have created inflation, which labour are not talking about at all. But i think theyre talking about a of policy that will about a lot of policy that will appeal to people like abolishing zero hours contracts, about talking about getting some social housing, very idealistic though, isnt it . Eamonn i mean is just promises, promises , promises. Promises, promises, promises. How are you actually going to do that . You know, you cant get that . You know, you cant get that genie back in the bottle. The whole zero hours contracts. You cant suddenly just expect everybody to have , you know, a everybody to have, you know, a proper work contract. There are proper work contract. There are so many things and you can stand up at a Party Conference and just say whatever you want, okay . People will go, yeah, theyll probably vote labour. Doing their best to theyre doing their best to save money. And youve taken a story the daily mail. Chris story from the daily mail. Chris flights have been cancelled by medway council. Medway council. Oh, well, yeah , of course. Oh, well, yeah, of course. Oh, well, yeah, of course. Thats the first thing to go, isnt it . Dont worry about all the salaries of the, the highly paid Civil Servants in these councils that are mostly the reason why the councils are going bankrupt. Lets just pick on the Christmas Lights. Oh its so. Its so predictable and its so. Its so predictable and its so infuriating. Lets take the so infuriating. Lets take the joy out of life. But well give joy out of life. But well give ourselves a nice little pay rise at the same time. And we wont get rid of anyone. No ones get rid of anyone. No ones going to lose their job here. Were all going to have great pensions, but were going to pensions, but were not going to put on for you. Put the lights on for you. Little people see see 75 Little People see see of 75 grand, 75 grand. But also , i would have but also, i would have thought, isabel, theres some sort resistance nowadays sort of resistance nowadays to Christmas Lights and the environment. Christmas lights and the eanesment. Christmas lights and the eanes ,|ent. Christmas lights and the eanes , id . Christmas lights and the eanes , id have thought itd be yes, id have thought itd be more along the sort of. Here we go. No, no, no, no, we go. It doesnt. No, it doesnt it doesnt. No, it doesnt work for you. No, not of course not. I mean , you know, most lights i mean, you know, most lights now are led. They dont. They use hardly any power , any use hardly any power, any electricity. You know. Surely. Electricity. You know. Surely. Surely these councils dont. Doesnt everybody just take the lights down and then put them back up again. Its pretty much on beginning of november, though. Most places, dont they . It goes on forever. James if you were advising labour controlled medway council, what would you tell them in terms of christmas . Joy Christmas Lights against saving 75 k dont do this. Saving 75 k dont do this. Its the maddest thing you could possibly do. I mean , of could possibly do. I mean, of course theres a bigger thing. Councils have had all their funding cut, etcetera, etcetera. Its not all their fault, but they are able to take a decision. Do you want to bring some, some joy with 75 grand or not . And of course they should have Christmas Lights. I mean its , its very to not. Its, its very silly to not. Okay, okay. In america , see okay, okay. In america, see this story and i worry at the same time, Robert Kennedys son, Robert F Kennedy jr is going to run as an independent for the presidency. Yes. So he was previously yes. So he was previously trying to challenge joe biden to be the democratic candidate. And he had a little surge at the beginning. I mean, he was never anywhere with a good chance, but he had a little surge at the beginning because people saw the kennedy hadnt kennedy name and they hadnt really much about him really heard very much about him before. He seemed like he before. And he seemed like he had a different line on ukraine before. And he seemed like he had covid rent line on ukraine before. And he seemed like he had covid and line on ukraine before. And he seemed like he had covid and somen ukraine before. And he seemed like he had covid and some people, ie before. And he seemed like he had covid and some people, oh, and covid and some people, oh, well listen to that. And then and covid and some people, oh, weit listen to that. And then and covid and some people, oh, weit went1 to that. And then and covid and some people, oh, weit went on that. And then and covid and some people, oh, weit went on andt. And then and covid and some people, oh, weit went on and heind then and covid and some people, oh, weit went on and he went en and covid and some people, oh, weit went on and he went on as it went on and he went on more and more media that democratic primary voters hate and said more and more things that democratic primary voters such as what sort of things . Because the headline that ive circulating this ive heard circulating this morning is he said to party politics, divided, sort of politics, this divided, sort of congested politics that we have has produced one candidate who is facing civil and criminal charges. And on the other hand, one who is borderline alzheimers. And so, you know, alzheimers. And so, you know, hes criticised this is what youve got from a from a two party and that sounded like a persuasive argument. We look over from the west, from over here in the uk and think, well, actually maybe they do need a bit more diversity of party. But what were his views . Julius julius nyerere, the independence tanzania independence leader of tanzania , said the United States is , said that the United States is a one state, but with a one party state, but with traditional american exuberance, they them. And of they have two of them. And of course, hes quite right. Course, he hes quite right. Hes quite right. Same here, but well, yes, indeed, same at the moment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the two, the one party is a party of corporate control in the us. It is a party of corporate control in the us. It is much a party of corporate control in the us. It is much worse than the us. It is much worse than here because corruption is legalised and Corporate Funding for politics is absolute holy, absolutely tremendous. So that bit of his message could work out. But for democratic bit of his message could work out. But for democratic primary voters, he was speaking to the types of media like Tucker Carlson and so on and so forth. That democratic primary voters generally like. And but generally dont like. And but now running as an now hes running as an independent independent and therefore probably more likely to take potential votes away from trump actually, rather than rather than biden. Well, you know, carol, from my point of view , im a great my point of view, im a great student of jfk and i just look and i and i, the Bobby Kennedy assassinate as well. And you look and you say, surely this lad , if i was part surely this lad, if i was part of his family, id be saying, dont, dont do this because this is like painting a target on his head. I think he should do it, actually. But every nutcase in the land will get him. Will be out to get him. Well, yes, i know. And i think hes prepared for that. I think hes prepared for that. I think hes prepared for that. I think hes hes as tough as trump, i think. And i think its a good that hes ditched a good thing that hes ditched the it was the the democrats. It was the one thing people were thing i think that people were thinking you know, they thinking about. You know, they probably wouldnt vote for him because he still within the because he was still within the democratic democrat democratic party, democrat party. I think its a good party. Its i think its a good decision on his part. So he decision on his part. So if he is going to be a tough win, i dont know if enough people will vote for him because i think people are you know, they theyre a like here they theyre a bit like here they vote for labour or they vote for conservative, you know, occasionally they vote for the liberal democrats. Not not much. But it is like people think ,. But it is like people think, oh, its either this or its either that. So i dont know if either that. So i dont know if itll do good, think itll do any good, but i think its done. Credibility a lot its done. His credibility a lot of actually by ditching them. So carol, when you stay in the hilton and the hilton hotel, what are you looking for . What sort of freebies do you get . They give you a comb and a wash bag. You get a few freebies. Liz, i think the last time i stayed in a hilton, they were quite good freebies, actually. No, no , no. I certainly dont look back on the menu for carbon ratings. This here we go with more carbon measuring madness. Now menus are already a bit crowded , right . Because youve crowded, right . Because youve got what youre what youre going to eat. Youve got the calories is youve got whether or not theyre vegan or whether they contain nuts or anything else. You know, a list of ingredients. And then now youve got, oh, this is how much carbon youre youre going to use up out of your future carbon allowance if you eat this dish. I mean, so my menu will tell me, emma, before you have that burger, is it environmentally friendly . Well , by definition, a burger well, by definition, a burger aint environmentally friendly, right . But you know, this isnt a new concept, i have to say. A lot of fancy restaurants do a sort of a footprint of where their foods come from. And its trying to encourage local and seasonal carbon measurement. No way to deal with climate breakdown. Breakdown. Climate breakdown is not going be changed going to be changed by the slightly different consumer choice. Also pretending that its the fault of people choosing this type of meal rather than that type of meal is, is, is just not true. If you want to deal with climate breakdown, you have to go to the root causes. You have to deal with Energy System and with the Energy System and fossil how we manage fossil fuels and how we manage production. Is production. This this is a debateable though, isnt it . I just want to club. I enjoy i just want to club. I enjoy club. Club. You can have one with a sign. You can have one with a sign. Oh, this is this is awful. Oh, this is this is awful. The future of, you know, the digital id which you will have a carbon allowance which i talked about on here last week for travel. Once youve used up travel. And once youve used up that carbon allowance, thats it, you wont be able to eat whats on that menu. You wont be able to drive your car, you wont be able to fly, you wont be able to do anything. But you can sell your carbon credits to rich who go do rich people who can go and do whatever they want. Rich people who can go and do whiyouzr they want. Rich people who can go and do whiyouzr they wathe club you can have the club sandwich. The reality you just have have a side portion of have to have a side portion of guilt, and hand wringing. Guilt, shame and hand wringing. Well, again, as that, it well, again, as well as that, it is make people shame is trying to make people shame people , know, people into, you know, destroying the planet because its you. Little people that its the Little People that are destroying the planet. Not that lot. Mean, paris hilton, i i mean, paris hilton, when i think paris hilton, i think think of paris hilton, i think private i think, you know, private jet. I think, you know, jetting the world. Why jetting around the world. Why not . Know, thing not . You know, the thing about hiltons they have them hiltons is 747, they have them graded in different ways. Can have theyre like you can have theyre like franchises. But theres franchises. Right. But theres no consistency. Franchises. Right. But theres no yeah,tency. Franchises. Right. But theres no yeah, some are great. Yeah, some are great. Yeah, some are great. Some can get a lovely hilton or get a really trashy. Or you can get a really trashy. Yeah, theyre theyve got yeah, but theyre theyve got like got a family now like theyve got a family now havent they. Got like the hampton theyve got like the hampton hilton, the, the hilton, theyve got the, the little, know little little, you know the Little Sisters which are more economical. Yeah yeah. But youve got the big ones, the big ones, posh ones as well. Ones, the posh ones as well. Theyre theyre not, theyre still, theyre not, theyre not carol. Yeah. Okay yeah. Okay just quickly. Well if youre ordering off your room menu, what would you have . Oh probably a sandwich. Yes, i go for a club sandwich. Yes, i go for club like the beef ones. Club sandwich for you. Are you going to be. Thatd be very nice. Im hungry. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Heres the weather picture. Greg dewhurst. Picture. Greg dewhurst. Hello there. Good morning. Hello there. Good morning. Im Greg Dewhurst. Welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. Weve got heavy rain forecast. Weve got heavy rain across scotland through today, bringing some disruption. Bringing some disruption. Therell be some spells of hazy sunshine elsewhere, but it is quite a grey start this morning. Some low cloud mist and fog slowly burning as we go slowly burning back as we go through taking through the morning, but taking its can see the heavy its time. We can see the heavy rain across northwest scotland. This slowly its way this slowly pushing its way south eastwards and met office rain in force here, 20 rain warning in force here, 20 to 50mm of rain possible leading to 50mm of rain possible leading to some local flooding in places. Cloudier further southwards across northern parts of england. But the best of the hazy sunshine once again. Central and southern parts of england and wales, 23, possibly 24 degrees. That heavy rain continues to slowly push its way south eastwards through tuesday evening. The met Office Warning eases during the evening time as that rain clears , showers that rain clears, showers following and then rain turning heavy as it moves into wales, into the midlands during the early hours. Southeastern areas early hours. Southeastern areas staying. Staying generally dry. Temperatures turning fresher across single figures across the north. Single figures here holding up 14 to 16 celsius. Further south. So if this cloudy, wet zone across central parts of the uk wednesday morning, this generally slowly moving south eastwards as we head through the day. Quite a muggy feel to things here brighter across Northern Ireland, Northern England into scotland, but quite a cool, blustery north westerly breeze here with some showers filtering in. Temperatures here lower days 12 to 15 lower than recent days 12 to 15 up to around 21 towards the southeast. See you soon. Southeast. See you soon. Thank you, greg. We will take a break and obviously, the big story of the day, the big story dominating and hamas are threatening to execute hostages. Israel preparing for a Ground Invasion in gaza. Weve been asking you what you think of the debate here in the studio has been very , very heated about been very, very heated about this. And it is just, you well. Good morning. Well. Good morning. Its 7 00 tuesday, the 10th of october. Youre tuned into breakfast with Eamonn Holmes and Isabel Webster leading the news this morning. This morning. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned that enormous force will be used against hamas as the bombing of gaza continues overnight. Israel ordering a complete siege of the gaza strip. They will cut off gaza strip. They will cut off food, fuel, electricity and Water Supplies in the uk. Three people have been arrested during pro palestinian protests outside the Israeli Embassy in london, which had to be boarded up. The home secretary has asked for more Police Patrols to protect jewish communities throughout england and the Prime Minister and wales. The Prime Minister says the uk is poised to offer Israel Military help if required. At the Labour Party Conference. Keir starmer, set to deliver his keynote speech. And its in his keynote speech. And its in liverpool. Our deputy Political Editor tom hannood is there. Tom, good morning. Tom, good morning. Why labour . Thats the question that keir starmer will set out to answer at 2 pm. This afternoon. He believes that the afternoon. He believes that the party is far ahead in the polls, but potentially not safe in that position. A new stream of housebuilder is set to be on the agenda. Housebuilder is set to be on the agenda. Ill have the very agenda. Ill have the very latest. Latest. Thank you, tom. And of course, your views on this. Very welcome. And were going to have a little update in the programme on the forecast Greg Dewhurst. Even hello there. Good morning. Weve got some heavy rain met Office Warnings in force across western parts of scotland today. Brighter skies eventually further south. Find out all the details coming up in the programme. Programme. So much sport to get through this morning. Paul coyte. With that, i do three things coming back. Cricket to the olympics, the euro and even wayne rooney , euro and even wayne rooney, wayne rooney find out where to you can join in any of our discussions if youve got insight into where wayne is applying for a job or whos trying to woo him. Hes not playing but managing. Yes that right . Yes. Hes a bit for old playing, a bit old for playing. Hes about as old as me and in the same physical shape as me. Hes not well. He looks like me, but dont want. You dont me, but he dont want. You dont want like george. Wouldnt want be you wouldnt want to be playing football our age. Playing football at our age. Hes actually the same no, hes actually the same age im somewhere in between. Yeah. And i find that when you look particularly at this beckham documentary, which is very,. Very, very good, importantly. And the physical demands on players bodies. Oh, yeah, absolutely incredible. Absolutely. I mean , how do absolutely. I mean, how do you think i get to be this specimen of an athlete that i am . Yeah. Training every day just to sit there. Right. All that to come. Come. So it is our top story this morning. Israel has imposed a complete siege of the gaza strip. It means no power, no food , no gas. That was the food, no gas. That was the message from the Israeli Defence minister in response. Hamas has threatened to start killing civilian hostages if israel continues to bomb gaza. Lets look at the death toll. It continues to rise on both sides. About 900 people have sides. About 900 people have died since saturdays surprise attack, including 260 people who were killed by hamas gunmen at that peace music fest civil in israel. Israel. Well, since israel began bombing gaza in response, almost 690 palestinians have died. 690 palestinians have died. Tensions remain high as demonstrations break out not only in london, but right across the world. Youre seeing here footage of pro israel rallies that have been held on the streets of chile, as well as in paris, brussels and columbia, all pro israel. All pro israel. See, there have also been pro palestinian protests in new york, buenos aires and in london. The metropolitan police are reporting hate crimes against the Jewish Community. Now , speaking last night at now, speaking last night at the United Synagogue in london, rishi sunak said attempts to stir up Community Tensions will not be tolerated in britain. Not be tolerated in britain. I know that at moments like this , when the jewish people are this, when the jewish people are under attack in their homeland , under attack in their homeland, jewish people everywhere can feel less safe. Weve already feel less safe. Weve already seen vile words on our streets and attempts to stir up Community Tensions. As i say , Community Tensions. As i say, why not here . Not in britain , why not here . Not in britain, not in our country , not in this not in our country, not in this century. Century. Well, the leaders of france, germany , italy and the uk, as germany, italy and the uk, as well as the United States, have released a joint statement expressing their steadfast and united support to the state of israel. Israel. I so look at that. Thats i so look at that. Thats westminster lit up in colours of the israeli flag. Attract a lot the israeli flag. Attract a lot of controversy. See that . More of controversy. See that . More than ten people from britain are believed to be dead or missing in israel. The foreign secretary who will be interviewing later in the program, says he wont speculate on the number either of british nationals involved. But you can be guaranteed it is more than those ten. Well, number 10 say that the uk is working closely with israel to locate and bring any british nationals to safety. It will be an anxious time for many families who have loved onesin for many families who have loved ones in the region. Its a quite complex situation on the ground. So we are working very closely with our israeli counterparts to establish the status of any british nationals on on the ground that work is under way as we speak. But for anyone who does have family or friends in the region, the most important thing for them to do is follow the Foreign Office advice, but also advice the israeli also the advice of the israeli home command. Home command. Now, just to update you on an interview that we did yesterday , a palestinian squad and who were speaking to yesterday and she had lost a very close friend of hers who was working in the press corps before he was killed. And just in those 24 hours, palestinians life again has been turned upside down. Lets go to her live from a hospital bed in in gaza on the on this one, palestine. Yeah. What happened palestine. Yeah. What happened since we spoke yesterday. A lot since we spoke yesterday. A lot has happened. You know, yesterday i described the situation and i said like eight massacres has been happening and how severe auens been happening and how severe aliens are being killed and how the death toll has reached to 900. But today , im telling you 900. But today, im telling you what happened yesterday and what is still happening. Its a genocide , literally a genocide. Genocide, literally a genocide. Its not a massacre like no words can describe whats happening. Like currently in gaza. Im supposed to update you or give you news about gaza or about whats happening, but im literally in gaza and i dont know whats happening there. The Israeli Forces are literally bombing everywhere. They bombed schools. They bombed most schools. They bombed most commercial buildings. Marketplace like i dont know, what are their targets exactly . They city like yesterday they they bombed the city. Can you hear me . Well palacio, we very sorry. Im finding it really hard to hear you. But as i understand it , your home was bombed, was hit by a shell, was destroyed , and by a shell, was destroyed, and im not sure to what point it was destroyed. What happened exactly is they bombed. Like many buildings and a University Close to my home. Like i stayed at my home at my building , the neighbours, we building, the neighbours, we also stayed because no one told us to evacuate the building. Um, in. Then us to evacuate the building. Um, in. Then suddenly , like without, in. Then suddenly, like without, without warning , without without warning, without previous warning, they bombed one apartment in the building and i was inside of it. Then the palestinian Civil Defence , they palestinian Civil Defence, they came and they took us out and we when we were leaving like the building caught on fire. So i dont know to what point its destroyed, to what point it got fire. I literally dont know. We came to the hospital and im still at the hospital. There is no internet, no internet connection. Like i barely have internet. Thats why i wondered if youre hearing me well or not. The electricity situation, its horrible. Not. The electricity situation, its horrible. In not. The electricity situation, its horrible. In palestine, in its horrible. In palestine, in gaza specifically. Also the gaza specifically. Also the Media Coverage like until now, many journalists are dead. Many journalists are injured around ten. Last time i checked, around ten. Last time i checked, around ten journalists. They have lost their lives. So no, italy can their lives. So no, italy can describe the situation. The last thing that that the israeli bombed was the telecom company. Bombed was the telecom company. So can you imagine that explains why we dont have internet. We dont have electricity, like even to talk to your friends, journalists, other people that you know, to ask them whats happening or something you cant you cant do anything like its we arent able to independently verify any of the figures that you give us there. But goodness me, the situation for you with the loss of your house or what the state is must be incredibly difficult. Thank is must be incredibly difficult. Thank you for talking to us this morning. It is worth reminding our audience that at the moment the death toll on both sides is frankly staggering. 900 on the israeli side and within gaza, 687 civilians at the last count. And of course, within palestine, a number of israeli hostages as well being held there. So lets well being held there. So lets start with that with robert fox. Hes our defence editor for the Evening Standard. But joining us this morning is sort of press friend role. Can we talk, first of all, about the hostage situation . Because this really shocking of from the armed shocking sort of from the armed wing of hamas threat from them that for every strike that is unannounced by israel into gaza , they will execute one of the hostages as well. Hostages as well. Its very difficult, as you say, to verify anything except that you do get these outrageous and extreme statements on all sides, it must be said, because i look at my former twitter feed now ex, and you get the thing thatis now ex, and you get the thing that is really, i think, quite serious is the crazy conspiracy theories that this conflict has now automatically all almost by default, involved with the ukraine. An iran has blamed the head and the hand of russia. So what is really going on is this really what hamas is threatening to kill these hostages, these poor unfortunate hostages, because thats a suicide note from them. This is why its looking so much like a complete impasse. You know, that its impasse. You know, that its a total stalemate to say that. Yes, you know, that youre going to put gaza under total siege. To put gaza under total siege. Look, its been under partial siege almost since it since the israelis left in in 2005 with very, very restricted going in and out. And the problem is that and out. And the problem is that the tension could spread across israel. And we are right to show maps of the west bank, tension spreading to london, for instance , and the israeli instance, and the Israeli Embassy be practically under siege. Siege. And weve got viewers and listeners who are getting in touch with us and saying if hamas is a proscribed organisation, then why are people allowed to protest west in favour of them . Why arent in favour of them . Why arent the police out there not stopping them from doing that . That thats a very difficult one because there is a right to protest and they would protest , protest and they would protest, as you heard before, on a human rights issue. And thats very , rights issue. And thats very, very difficult, eamonn, because you do get into george onnell territory and thought crimes going on. Youve got to be very, very still a terrorist organisation are proscribed as such in the uk. Im not sure you could do the same if you were if you were protesting in favour of the ira or whatever, but just very interesting and robert, last time we touched upon this and we were talking about external influences on this whole situation, how this attack by the palestinians , by hamas was the palestinians, by hamas was allowed to happen over the weekend, how no one noticed it happening , and the interests happening, and the interests that certain other foreign powers have in the area and have warnings gone out to say , keep warnings gone out to say, keep your mitts off this, no , no. Your mitts off this, no, no. What the Palestinian People, particularly after the six days war, when israel took a great deal of territory , as you know, deal of territory, as you know, and virtually occupied the west bank and indeed gaza at that time, they could rely the palestinian population on support, particularly for medical facilities and things like that, from the rich arabs , like that, from the rich arabs, particularly the gulf arabs. What is so strange is that the gulf arabs, saudi arabia included , seem to have taken included, seem to have taken their eye off their kindred, their eye off their kindred, their natural ally with the palestinian , by the way, to make palestinian, by the way, to make their countries function. If you their countries function. If you go to the gulf, you see ever so many educated palestinians running things from them. One little thing, and its just pure anecdote. I was talking to a very well established egyptian friend and in uk and she was very nervous. We were in very nervous. We were in a Discussion Group and she said, im very worried about the arab worlds attitude to the palestinians. And she hinted that she somehow felt in her water highly educated , water highly educated, sophisticated person that she thought trouble was on its way. Thought trouble was on its way. Id love to get back to her and say, what made you think like that . She was really quite upset at about it all. There are organisations which i know very well, like the Saeed Foundation with wafic said, which has supported a palestine in medicine helping with palestinian education. And the point that we heard from our palestinian colleague about not only about journalism, this is where the un is in a terribly difficult and crucial situation. It runs 44 schools in gaza from which they have distribute food from their bases, their aid. To from their bases, their aid. To 112,000 family units , maybe only 112,000 family units, maybe only families of 1 or 2. But its a staggering figure. A lot of the staggering figure. A lot of the palestinian population is now going to rely on that. Palestinian population is now going to rely on that. An going to rely on that. An enormous proportion of the population relies has relied on aid. Thats why you get the aid. Thats why you get the caution of secretary general gutierrez. I mean, this is, as i gutierrez. I mean, this is, as i said, it really does look like a wicked problem that i cant see the way out. And i never felt like that. I, i mean, i curiously just observing , curiously just observing, looking at the ukraine conflict, i dont have quite the sense of almost mental despair that i do over this. Its overused word, but it is an unprecedented situation in a in an area that is traumatised and had repeated conflicts but never anything like this. But if youve got so many russian jews for instance, as well, does this not affect russia . Oh, russia is deeply involved. Its bound to be because netanyahu has had a Good Relationship with putin. But israel has also maintained , israel has also maintained, particularly with the Jewish Community, good relations with with ukraine. Its a very, very complicated thing. And in the middle of this, you have iran, iran supplies hezbollah, which has given a lot of historically the military knowhow to hamas. The military knowhow to hamas. Iran is now a big armourer and suppuer iran is now a big armourer and supplier to russia in the ukraine war. Well, we should point out well be speaking to the foreign secretary at 845. He was saying last night, James Cleverly , that last night, James Cleverly, that they will be reviewing aid to palestine. Well be asking him palestine. Well be asking him about that. But for now, robert fox, very much for fox, thanks very much indeed for all analysis. Lets just all of your analysis. Lets just show you a video that has horrified so many people and scared so many people from the attack on the Music Festival on saturday as hamas raided israeli communities. Noah agrimony was amongst those captured. Youll recognise her and she was taken in with together with that gentleman there back to gaza. And noahs there back to gaza. And noahs father has been speaking about his pain and anguish. Maria emma , what can i say . Maria emma, what can i say . Maria emma, what can i say . My whole life since she was born, ive done my best to protect and to hug her and to support and love her. And now, in this difficult moment, to at least encourage her, i couldnt reach out to tell her Something Like noah , cheer up. I saw her like noah, cheer up. I saw her boyfriend. What difficult days, difficult days. For his opinion. Difficult days. For his opinion. Johnny gould and johnny gould is the host of a jewish state podcast cast. Johnny , good morning to you. Johnny, good morning to you. And this. There must be so much and this. There must be so much pain and so much anguish and so much angst. And with with all of this, i mean, any parent at all that would have witnessed that abduction version of their of their daughter , its just just their daughter, its just just heartbreaking. And now people like noah, shes held hostage. If shes still alive and could be executed at any time in retaliation for the israeli strikes. So how powerful is this strikes. So how powerful is this human shield . What effect would human shield . What effect would this actually have . Will will this actually have . Will will the Israeli Forces take any nofice the Israeli Forces take any notice that there are captives as well . As well . Listen, the idf, eamonn, is the most humane army in the world. And attempts to, uh, warn palestine indians in their homes. This war is more existential andits. This war is more existential and its kicking off in a much bigger way. And lets not forget how this started on saturday morning thing. Israel does not want this war and one of the reasons, one of the many reasons israel doesnt want this war is that it affects jews. People literally across the world. We saw an unbridled world. Well, it started perhaps as a rally, but then it ended up as a bit of a an unbridled people running amok across the west end. Try being a jewish person going out in the west end last night, it would have been impossible. There was have been impossible. There was a vigil outside downing street for the Jewish Community, which was well attended by jewish and non jewish people. But the reality is for the Jewish Community in london and in manchester, in birmingham and across country, that we across the country, is that we got to go on the school run this morning at and were a little bit protection. Be wary of bit of protection. Be wary of the security that will the extra security that will surround schools, surround jewish schools, synagogues etcetera. This is synagogues, etcetera. This is a very, very serious situation for the Jewish Community. And rishi sunak khan and various Sunak Sadiq Khan and various other leaders , other community leaders, political leaders are saying that jews across the country that the jews across the country need protection. And theyre need protection. And theyre absolutely. Absolutely right. I know youve got youve got children and you live in the capital. Its shocking. In 2023 to be hearing from the Jewish Community that they feel unsafe. Now, we heard yesterday, didnt we, that the head of the London Jewish Free School saying that kids this week didnt have to wear their blazers because it had the star of david on it. There would be no detentions this because wanted this week because they wanted children groups on the children to go in groups on the buses so that they would feel safe. The Prime Minister safe. Now, the Prime Minister has out unequivocally in has come out unequivocally in support of israel and of the Jewish Community, and hes saying, not on my watch. How welcome has his response been . Welcome has his response been . The show of solidarity. And the show of solidarity. And he turned up at finchley synagogue last night and made his position very clear. Sadiq khan said the same thing. But if you look at the videos on social media last night, ive been posting some of them on my feed. The issue of the police trying to deal with this mass, you know, rally gives it an air of respectability. He is almost respectability. He is almost impossible to police, rather to contain. But for jewish impossible to police, rather to contain. But forjewish people going out for a quiet evening meal or maybe going out to the theatre. Yeah, yeah. Theyre not going to be wearing their yarmulkes or talking about the israeli situation because theyll run. Theyll get run theyll get run. Theyll get run by mob. This is london in the by a mob. This is london in the 21st century. Forgive the question, but i have to ask it because just the discussions that weve had on the program this morning from other contributors, i want the program this morning from otigiveontributors, i want the program this morning from otigive you butors, i want the program this morning from otigive you thenrs, i want the program this morning from otigive you the opportunity1t the program this morning from otigive you the opportunity to to give you the opportunity to respond it. What would you respond to it. What would you say to those who claim that israels response is with attacks going in to gaza, amounts to war crimes . Well, very simply, the gaza is hamas, Palestinian Islamic jihad need to put down their weapons because if they put down their weapons , there will be their weapons, there will be peace in the middle east. Okay. As simple as that. As okay. As simple as that. As simple as that. Because as that people as simple as that. Look what happened. Yeah. What happened. Yeah. Look what happened on saturday morning. There are saturday morning. There are people stop. People waiting at the bus stop. There people on a kibbutz people waiting at the bus stop. There you ople on a kibbutz people waiting at the bus stop. There you know,n a kibbutz people waiting at the bus stop. There you know, wakingyutz people waiting at the bus stop. There you know, waking up, to waiting, you know, waking up, to going breakfast or, going have their breakfast or, you children, musical you know, children, a musical festival. What kind of enemy festival. What kind of enemy combatants are they . This is how combatants are they . This is how it starts. Hamas showed who they were and theyre a bloodthirsty, genocidal cult. Leave israel alone to build a progressive society. Put down your weapons. There will be peace. We need a reliable palestinian leadership for which israel can make peace time and time again , israel has time and time again, israel has attempted to make peace. Attempted to make peace. President trump tried to do it through the abraham accords. It succeeded with the gulf arab countries and now the Saudi Arabian plan, which was beginning to bear fruit. The palestinians got scared and now the Saudi Arabian leader has told anthony blinken, the secretary of state of the United States, that for now, peace with israel is off the table. And thatis israel is off the table. And that is the biggest tragedy of the last four days tony gould, well leave it there. Thank you very much indeed for your contribution. Appreciate it. 722 is the time. To other news and a cautiously confident sir keir starmer has been speaking at the Labour Party Conference. His big speech will be this afternoon. He says his party are on schedule to win the next general election. Yesterday or in fact actually that was on sunday. The deputy leader Angela Rayner said the labour party will act as a stark contrast to the conservatives. Conservatives. Government has never been so unified, so focussed around one aim to give britain its future back. But the tories also have one singular focus is to desperately cling on to power. Thats why the tories levelling up project was dead on arrival. You cannot level up from the top down. Are the tories only know how to centralise power and hold wealth where it benefits them. Wealth where it benefits them. So that was the deputy on sunday. The big boss is today. Whats he got in store . Tom hannood. Our deputy Political Editor will hopefully give us an idea. Good morning, tom. Good morning. Yes, the leader of the labour party is coming up at 2 pm. Today to really set the tone for this conference. Of course, we heard yesterday from the shadow chancellor, the day before , from the deputy leader, before, from the deputy leader, although i must say that the speeches so far at this conference have been playing things very safe, playing the old tunes and no doubt exciting the base here at the Labour Party Conference, but with very little thats actually fresh or changing policy. Little thats actually fresh or changing policy. And thats changing policy. And thats particularly interesting given the position that the labour party finds itself in the polls. They dont want to do anything to upset the apple cart really what we might well see for the next 12 months before a likely autumnal general election is a steady as she goes policy from the labour party not wanting to change all that much, although that being said, one of the themes this afternoon from sir keir starmer will be trying to answer this question on why labour, answer this question on why labour , the labour party seems labour, the labour party seems to be buying into this idea that many pollsters seem to be backing up, that there isnt that much positive enthuse chiasm for the labour party. Chiasm for the labour party. They are of course streets ahead in the polls, but mainly winning by default. The country seems to be saying that they dont want the conservatives and a defaulting as things stand for the labour party. Sir Keir Starmers task today is to try and set out a positive vision, a vision of policy in terms of why people might positive choose the Labour Party Rather than just defaulting for it. Can i ask you go on. Sorry, i was just wanting to relate. I guess , this story to our top guess, this story to our top story today. We saw emotion story today. We saw emotion spilling out when there were palestinian protests or what sort of in support of palestine , an outside conference and then we saw i dont know if there were delegates attending the conference, but people were very cross about that. Whats the mood there at labour conference in relation to this middle east conflict escalation there is a sharp divide between what happens just outside the secure zone of this conference and what happens is inside the secure zone of this conference, perhaps a few years ago , it might have a few years ago, it might have been much the same inside and outside. Outside. But it seems that this year the pro palestinian protest is some might even question whether they sort of bleed into being to some extent , they sort of bleed into being to some extent, pro hamas protesters with some of the words that weve heard being said, or at least morally ambitious , violent towards the ambitious, violent towards the actions of hamas. Those people are not the kind of people that are not the kind of people that are Walking Around inside this year , but they do stand outside. Year, but they do stand outside. We saw a big demonstration yesterday. We saw one delegate to this conference sort of stand and stand against those protesters. And question why was he having to do that by himself . Why was no one else standing with him . I have to say there was quite an emotional moment for me yesterday when someone whos not a member of the labour party but was attending this conference up to me. Conference just came up to me. She was almost in tears talking about how she had been jostled and harassed on her way into this conference. It was really quite shocking. She was telling me how had family, got those me how she had family, got those pictures available and just could believe how how those could not believe how how those people were behaving outside this conference. But i do have to stress that is very much people who arent on the floor in the in the Conference Venue itself. Its some of those itself. Its some of those protesting outside. Protesting outside. All right, tom, shocking to hear that. Thank you very much indeed for now. Well see you a little bit later on in the program. Now, listen, theres been a pretty miserable program today with the type of news that weve got going, but weve got something that will make you feel happier thats guaranteed to make you feel happier. And well show you what that is after this short this short break. But also after that, well be debating should we be honounng well be debating should we be honouring those who helped to free slaves . Free slaves . See you in a moment. Now look, theres an item were going to do towards the end of the program after 9 00 today, which is really important. Really interesting, because if youre feeling a bit down in the dumps, youre feeling the dumps, if youre feeling down bit abandoned and down a bit abandoned and whatever, what should you do . Whatever, what should you do . The answer is you should surround yourself with family pictures, things that mean even smiling , thinking about the sort smiling, thinking about the sort of things that i that i have on. I can see you get when you smile and get sentimental. You get little tears in your eyes. Theres the whole family. Oh, look, my granddaughter look, theres my granddaughter there. Pictures there. These are pictures you should have. Ones, maggie. Thats which ones, maggie. Which the right. Thats which ones, maggie. Wh and the right. Thats which ones, maggie. Wh and look the right. Thats which ones, maggie. Wh and look atthe right. Thats which ones, maggie. Wh and look at those. Ht. Thats which ones, maggie. Wh and look at those. Thats my and look at those. Thats my four. Four other brothers. Wow. Theres one. Thats my daddy. And carpet fan that and that was the carpet fan that we to around in. And we used to go around in. And thats the queen. Thats mom. Thats my mom. Thats my mom. And there but but oh, thats my three kids who are now well, in their 30s. Theyre now. But in their 30s. Theyre now. But but anyway , isabel, what are we but anyway, isabel, what are we looking at with you. Looking at with you. Oh this is my little brood. Oh this is my little brood. And actually, theres a sausage dog in there. Thats hector the cat. I have to include him family include him in the family pictures a newly pictures because hes a newly acquired old kitten. Acquired 11 week old kitten. Quite right that were completely besotted with. He completely besotted with. But he does happy. Does make me happy. The thing is that if yes. And the thing is that if you have pictures , memories they you have pictures, memories they implant and they reinforce childhood memories. And those childhood memories. And those are good memories. They make you feel very happy. So were feel very, very happy. So were talking about Mental Health and were you were talking about why you should surround yourself with family pictures and things that just generally make you smile. Okay, thats a little bit later. Im going to be doing that later on. For now, were going to be discussing the slave trade and the uks involvement in it. And its been a long running debate really, whether there should be statues of statues erected in favour of those who pretty much made a huge fortune out of them. And many of them have been ripped down in our cities as those figures befitted from figures who bear befitted from slavery. Colin kemp is slavery. But colin kemp is a semi retired businessman and he has proposed a £70,000 monument for portsmouth. Interesting. Of for portsmouth. Interesting. Of the royal navys west africa squadron, which freed more than 150,000 slaves over the course of six decades in the 19th century. Okay. Okay. The statue depicts a slave before abolition, a naval officer and a freed slave and it could be based it could be based anywhere. It could be based in bristol. It could be based in portsmouth. Here to debate this, social commentator , narinder social commentator, Narinder Kaur with this well , we kaur with this and well, we dont have the second guessed. Just me. Just me. Just me. Oh, i didnt receive that message. I didnt receive that message either. But apparently we were told that. So anyway. Narinder kaur so i think youre going to be the villain of all of this then. So you dont believe you get me. You just get me. You only need me. This wouldnt be money well spent as far as youre concerned. Look, i think that hes entitled up this statue, entitled to put up this statue, but i think its very misleading. Think the british misleading. I think the british have this great way of , as have this great way of, as george once famously george onnell once famously said, theyre very hypocritical with their history of the british and i think to put up this statue of because this west african squadron, you dont get to make vast amounts of profit on the backs of suffering and genocide of black slaves and then say, well, lets give ourselves a pat on the back, actually, because we did help save 150,000. And i would also question the motives. So after question the motives. So after 200 years of slavery , you then 200 years of slavery, you then wake up one day and suddenly youre on a moral high horse. Well, you could say better late than ever, couldnt you . No, you couldnt say better than later. Then id say that completely then id say that is completely the to say. Because the wrong thing to say. Because actually, made all your the wrong thing to say. Because actualljand made all your the wrong thing to say. Because actualljand suddenlyll your the wrong thing to say. Because actualljand suddenly ityour the wrong thing to say. Because actualljand suddenly it wasnt money and suddenly it wasnt profitable anymore. And suddenly, actually, how will we look world . In the world look in the world . In the world we to look like were on we want to look like were on the moral high horse and we will try and end slavery. Im not try and end slavery. Im not saying that the sailors did saying that the sailors who did die. Saying that, you know, die. Im saying that, you know, their were probably their motives were probably genuine but in terms of genuine. But id say in terms of the british motives, if you made your money now a your money and now you want a pat the back, well, we have pat on the back, well, we have done in belfast now. Done this in belfast now. I wasnt aware of i wasnt even aware of belfast, had connection with belfast, had any connection with slavery, but big port like liverpool would newcastle liverpool would be or newcastle or glasgow, bristol and, and, and theyve put up a picture of and theyve put up a picture of a guy ive never heard of in belfast city centre. So were all sort of aware now of our connection and how this guy abolished slavery. So theres a sort of feel good factor. Oh, of course thats, thats just your white saviour guilt. Its a bit like a surgeon. Your guilt for all the wrongs that were done. And actually, lets celebrate this one, man. What about all the 3. 4 million black slaves that were and so many were killed and therefore you now put up a statue of a white man . This is the this kind of white saviour. This is going to be the samurai. Were going to get with gaza and israel. Itll never be able to be solved because everybody always in everybody will always go back in time. Remember the wrongs time. And remember the wrongs that were done against their people. But this isnt see, thats the other thing. Eamonn, i think we go on this. Well, that was hundreds of years ago. Thats an excuse what . We excuse because guess what . We still have systemic racism in this country. And actually people still suffering people are still suffering in the how poverty the caribbean. How much poverty did not heal your little grandchild or whatever they grandchild or whatever when they come the world . Come into the world . That not heal that you would that not heal that you go you say, look, go about and you say, look, there was a good person an and this horribleness existed and no because a horrible the ramification versions of slavery are still felt today. We have systemic racism and actually theres poverty in the caribbean. Poor. And caribbean. Theyre poor. And guess what . People this guess what . People in this country and thats not country are rich. And thats not right because still felt right because it still felt today. We ignore this. We today. We cant ignore this. We what would appease things for you . I think reparations. You . I think reparations. I think that the caribbean pain money to the kind of how you money to the kind of how can you not can say it rich in not how can you say it rich in your own house knowing you took from other people in an oppressive and disgusting manner. These people were treated terribly. You cant live treated terribly. You cant live your life thinking, well, its hundreds of ago. Its an hundreds of years ago. Its an excuse. She puts very powerfully. Do you agree with her . Nannder do you agree with her . Narinder kaur there . They wont agree with me. What . Well, you might be there might might might be somebody. There might be somebody. Much indeed. Thank you for that. Thank you for that. And coming up, were going through all the latest sport with coyte, who is here with paul coyte, who is here with paul coyte, who is here with a moment. Oh, with us in just a moment. Oh, says oh, sorry , i believe im says oh, sorry, i believe im here now. Hello. You didnt know i was even here. I crept up on you. Thats what it is. Thats great. Which is what wayne rooney looks like hes doing with Birmingham City, by the way. Really . Absolutely. Really . Yeah, absolutely. I mean, look state mean, look what state to birmingham in. Mean, look what state to birriingham in. Mean, look what state to birri dontn in. Mean, look what state to birri dont know these days. Are i dont know these days. Are they well funded . Were they sitting league . Arent. Well, they are now because another american takeover. So another american takeover. Theres american theres so Many American millionaires billionaires. Millionaires and billionaires. Theyre getting involved in football. Same thing with Birmingham City at the moment, which, which know which, you know, which you know , fan and all the , if youre a fan and all the problems that Birmingham City have had, im im not a fan have had, im not im not a fan of americans eating into our traditional sport. We dont go out there and take over basket lets take over basket ball or lets see the money. See if we had the money. We probably, probably would if had money to go over if we had the money to go over there do it. But the thing there and do it. But the thing is, if well, lets say youre a Birmingham City fan. Yeah, things are looking really bad. Theres been theres no money. Its been a disaster. Been badly disaster. Its been really badly run far as the clubs going run as far as the clubs going and teams going. And far as the teams going. Its just going down and down. Then someone comes with then someone comes in with a huge of money and say, huge amount of money and say, were going in the were going to invest in the team they make us start. Team and they make us start. Youre really going to youre not really going to be turning win winners. Getting brownite theyre getting experience with dc united as well. And well, he has well, john eustace, i talked about john eustace, i talked about john eustace yesterday. Eustace eustace yesterday. John eustace is manager was is the current manager or was the manager until the current manager until yesterday birmingham yesterday of being at Birmingham City. Been through a lot of city. Hes been through a lot of the problems hed been there for 15 and hes done pretty 15 months and hes done pretty well considering kept them out of zone theyre of relegation zone and theyre now in theyre now in sixth place well in the place as well in the championship but the championship. But now the american where you american this is where you probably so theyve probably think, okay, so theyve put a statement said because the board want to implement a winning mentality and culture at the club. So theyve given john the club. So theyve given john the boot. Theyre going for wayne rooney now wayne, hes record as a manager now. He had problems at derby. They won 24, drew 22, lost 39 to dc united won 14, drew 14, lost 25. Yes so hes a great name. And it all sounds very good for maybe if theres going to be a documentary and hes got tremendous passion and obviously tremendous passion and obviously tremendous skill. I mean, i dont dont negate his commitment. Absolutely in any way. Whos the other North West Club . Is it bolton whos been brought over by americans . Yeah. Well is it bolton or its not burnley, is it . No. Is it burnley . Its burnley, isnt it . Burnley yeah. Yeah, exactly. Burnley yeah. Yeah, exactly. Isnt it. Isnt it. It is. Oh yeah. Burnley it is. Oh yeah. Burnley exactly. Exactly. What do i know . Theres always athletes. Thats the thing is, theres always athletes, theres athletes involved, theres film stars a lot stars involved. But really a lot has mean, saw has been done. I mean, you saw the documentary, you, the documentary, didnt you, about theres a lot about wrexham. And theres a lot to said for that. I think all to be said for that. I think all of a sudden theyre thinking, you want a piece you know what, i want a piece of that. I everybodys that. So i think everybodys coming in from the states and thinking they can, wherever it is. If it is. Burnley but if it is. Burnley my apologies im here. Apologies if im wrong here. Its burnley. Its burnley. Burnley but the guy there that not been easy for him, that has not been easy for him, the is involved the american is involved there and his family and hes brought his family oven and hes brought his family over. And it its tough. And you wonder would you want to be wonder why would you want to be part that and always with the part of that and always with the americans you want to part of americans you want to be part of it cash because money. It because cash because money. Yeah. They see the holy yeah. And they see the holy grail for them is not to have relegation. Absolute thats what they want. Thats what they want. Thats the first thing to stave off. And then should things go well, well see. I mean, people look at brighton and clubs like that and look at how well things are going for them. So its are going for them. So if its well run villas going well, well run and villas going well, things go very well. And things can go very well. And villa, owners as villa, of course, new owners as well. Well see how we go. Well. So well see how we go. But the idea rule but the idea of rule change, they relegation zone and they want no relegation zone and we , i think we do want we as fans, i think we do want relegation. Youre relegation. Unless youre somebody no cant say somebody like, well no cant say that about spurs. So top of the list, the number number number one number one to number number one where were just up where we are, were just up there. Thanks, paul. Absolutely. Absolutely. Paul. Thanks, paul. Thanks, paul. Want see . Who what do you want to see . Who do to see running . Your do you want to see running . Your clubs gone are the days that british people there used to be butchers bakers texted butchers and bakers that texted you over the weekend. Me who it was, but dont tell me who it was, but what did they say about you off the of beckham documentary . Ill be watching the beckham documentary, eamonn and ive come that you come to the conclusion that you are just a mini are really just a mini alex ferguson. Like you like you think like you act like him. Disagree. Working up cant disagree. Working up close with you, close and personal with you, throw through a hairdryer at throw you through a hairdryer at me yesterday i could never understand. I couldnt understand what was get was going. Where did he get that . He got a box of them . That . Had he got a box of them . Thats where it. Alex. Alex. Where comes from. Thats where it comes from. Well the other way round. Well maybe the other way round. Goodness. Our goodness. And our commiserations this commiserations to him at this time, sir alex, with the loss of his lady cathy. His wife, lady cathy. Very, sad. Very, very sad. Very, very sad. Do you think youd be any good managing a Football Club . Well, sir alex told me, sir alex told me that you couldnt do it nowadays. Not the way he did it not the way that he did it anyway, because they all have counsellors have. Counsellors and they all have. I dont know what else people you to for their mental you go to for their Mental Health and all sorts of things. You cant shout anybody you just cant shout at anybody anymore. Its terrible and youre anymore. Its terrible and youthen anymore. Its terrible and you then thats anymore. Its terrible and youthen thats me. Thats the then thats me. Thats the end for you. But what do you mean it in a caring way of course i know. Caring, loving way. Trying to geti mean, my wife would say to i mean, my wife would say to me that i am like. Like a football manager. That i would be suddenly saying, what are you doing why are doing doing that for . Why are we doing this . But as soon as the person scores a goal, them. Scores a goal, i love them. After its all forgotten. Yeah, i never i never what i want. Theres no problem. Theres no problem. I never hold on to anything. Why dont they get it . When are you to learn that . You going to learn that . Say not i do. You say not as i do. You say not as i do. Look, you see Narinder Kaur is the sort guest i like. Is the sort of guest i like. Shes just, you know, just so much to say about that beckham documentary. Show. Another show. Another show. What, what . What . What, what, what . What . What, what, what . I think beckham comes i dont i think beckham comes across seem to across arrogant and they seem to have considering all have amnesia considering all the history they wrong. History of what they did wrong. It accountability. And it was no accountability. And they went for glenn hoddle and that was he wasnt there that was unfair. He wasnt there to up for himself. To stick up for himself. We were saying that yesterday. We were saying that yes yeah,. Was wrong. We were saying that yesyeah,. Was wrong. They yeah, it was wrong. They really he took really went for it and he took no for his own no accountability for his own wrongs throughout the whole even his affair. He no accountability. He could come out the he could come out on the ainnaves any time. Welcome. Must have always welcome. We must have you all this you talking about all of this amazing. You talking about all of this am right . One of the things right . So one of the things were about after the were talking about after the break processed break is labelling processed foods addictive. They are so foods as addictive. They are so bad for you. I mean, says me, the chief connoisseur of processed foods. But anyway, next on headline makers. Oh, jamie. Right. Going through the headlines today, isabel, shes devouring everything. But in her absence will have Carol Mcgiffin and well have former labour adviser James Schneider and, james, i just would like to start with you. Were going to touch on the Financial Times very shortly. But it looks like a good coffee reference from labour. Now, i know youre more on the corbyn side of things, but you must look and say this lot are electable. Well, so i was up in electable. Well, so i was up in liverpool at labours National Convention at and they are certainly on course to win the next election. Next election. Theyve pursued. Theyve pursued. Theyve pursued. Theyve pursued. The tories are on course to lose. Lose. Well, yes, of course. No, no, no. That was exactly going to be my point. Theyve pursued a strategy. We in the labour strategy. We in the labour leadership, they pursued a strategy of doing as little as possible to just stand next to the tories and say, do you really want more of them . And after 13 years where most people are less well off, that is a strategy to win. Now the problem is if you are or if you want to see serious change in the country or a real engagement with the crises that we face, saying winning by default doesnt give you much of a mandate to do anything. Oh, it does. First is first and second is nowhere. Doesnt it . You know, when theres a winners. When theres a winners. No, no, no. It gets you into office. Yes, but does it give you power to make any you the power to make any changes if youre. Lets take, for example, this story im looking in times. Yes. Looking at in the times. Yes. You know, seeks you know, labour seeks partnership with business. The rachel has been setting Rachel Reeves has been setting out clearly that labour is out very clearly that labour is not going to raise any taxes on big business on the highest earners in society , on any earners in society, on any wealth tax , and to get a rubber wealth tax, and to get a rubber stamp from and they get a rubber stamp. Mark carney and they get a rubber stamp from mark carney, which is unsurprising because theyve theyve decided to be capitals team. Know, the capitals be team. You know, the a done a terrible job a team have done a terrible job so they cant supported. So a team have done a terrible job so ttwillant supported. So a team have done a terrible job so ttwill transfersupported. So a team have done a terrible job so ttwill transfer supportd. So a team have done a terrible job so ttwill transfer support over they will transfer support over to the labour party to try to manage the situation. The problem is labour now doesnt have policy or doesnt have have any policy or doesnt have very policies that would very many policies that would deal with the problems that were facing that would set back the 13 of falling living the 13 years of falling Living Standards that weve had in this country where Public Services are worse. Do you think do you think most people think no than they think most people think no than the� i thought Rachel Reeves. I thought Rachel Reeves. I thought Rachel Reeves. What you i dont know what you thought, carol, yesterday , but thought, carol, yesterday, but she she sounded she looked like she sounded like a chancellor. She former a chancellor. She the former Governor Bank of england, governor of the bank of england, saying the that saying these are the people that mean business. Oh, no. Yeah. Mark carney , though , yeah. Mark carney, though, the cary grant of the financial world. Yeah. No, i dont know. World. Yeah. No, i dont know. No, i cant take any of them seriously. Theyre just. Theyre just theyre all the same. They just theyre all the same. They just have different faces. Just have different faces. Thats it. Theyre all saying the same thing. I cant listen. The same thing. I cant listen. I cant listen to keir starmer. I cant listen to keir starmer. I cant listen to keir starmer. I cant actually listen to him even speak. But i know i dont even speak. But i know i dont i do not have any hope at all for laboun do not have any hope at all for labour. If they win or the tories if they lose or whatevers going to happen. Because everything will just carry on along the same path. And we know that. We know that its all words. You could have had Jeremy Corbyn last time round. Would it corbyn last time round. Would it have been any better under him or we yet to see whoever or have we yet to see whoever will take the mantle . Will take the mantle . Well, at least it was a proper lefty. I mean, he was, you know, proper left wing and you know, proper left wing and you of need that contrast. You kind of need that contrast. You need left and you need right. Theyre all theyre right. But theyre all theyre all middle. All in the middle. You saying earlier were you saying earlier today, america today, isabel, about america having. To what was it to one having. To what was it to one party, 1 1 political . Its a divided democracy, but its just creates congestion. And, you know, it has produced these, but were getting that way here, arent we . Yeah. Yeah. Its increasingly like that. But it was but i do think it was interesting yesterday from rachel actually she Rachel Reeves that actually she was channelling her was kind of channelling her inner thatcher. Arent inner Margaret Thatcher. Arent they a lot of the same sort they all a lot of the same sort of phraseology sort of of phraseology dodi and sort of economy centric rhetoric . I mean, shes shadow chancellor but it seems to go down well at conference anyway. What what what about public, though . I mean, are the public actually watching that and just thinking, yeah , yeah, thats thinking, yeah, yeah, thats great. Shes the polls great. Yeah. Shes the polls seem to say that and seem to say so that and i believe what theyre going do believe what theyre going to do i believe going to make i believe theyre going to make my better. I dont think my life better. I dont think so. Somehow i think the public are despairing well. Are despairing so well. If you look the i think if you look at the polling, most of labours polling, most of labours polling lead down to people polling lead is down to people hating the tories and thinking that theyve done a very bad job rather than straightfonnard enthusiasm labour, which is enthusiasm for labour, which is why, for example, starmers leadership that leadership ratings are not that high. When when their high. When people when their focus groups and polling, they ask about them. They say, we dont really know what they for. Stand its because right now they are set to win and win, win handsomely. It by handsomely. But it is by default. It is not because people are saying, yes, were excited saying. Karl well to the daily karl well go to the daily mail trusting what this about mail trusting what is this about amazon and alexa . Yeah, this is really worrying actually , that there was actually, that there was a survey or yeah, a bit of a survey or yeah, a bit of a survey done by researchers from oxford and Stanford University who basically asked people how they felt about these home listening devices like alexa and echo and all these other i mean, theres quite a few of them now. Now. And people were beginning to sort of treat them as though theyre like a member of the family, referring to them as he and she and children in particular. Yeah, kids have grown up yeah, my kids have grown up with and they love to say with alexa and they love to say things like, i love you , alexa, things like, i love you, alexa, and it prompts a reaction. And then it prompts a reaction. Thanks saying, you know, thanks for saying, you know, i love you. And she starts singing back and they find out stopping. Seriously, this is what. Seriously, no. This is what our do is just set it our children do is just set it off in peoples homes across the country. But i honestly country. Try it. But i honestly think so. Youre saying i love you, alexa. That is wrong. No, its that is so wrong. No, its wrong. Its just a game. Anyone who has one of these in their home is. Is complete insane because they are. Theyre. Theyre for theyve actually people have theyve fallen for it. Frankly, im not a big they are if i have them in my home i dont use them. I would have initially got them and thought this is a lot of rubbish. Youve got to get them out. Youve got to take them out the house, them out. House, take them out. But you know what find is but you know what i find is this little thing, this little sorry, just show me yeah sorry, just show me this. Yeah thats just bad. This. Oh my thats just as bad. This. Oh my word. Its like, amusing to me that say anything. That i will say anything. Ill say, oh, ive got a terrible pain in my knee. And then all these adverts come up with not amusing yes. Yes. Yeah. Do find that yeah. Do you find that amusing you find that amusing or do you find that terrifying . Ipp. Creepy. Creepy creepy. Creepy extremely. Extremely creepy that we are giving huge amounts of unaccountable of power to unaccountable companies about companies to know so much about us. Yeah. And that doesnt mean that the technology is bad or anything like that. But the problem is if you give people unaccountable power, history shows it in shows us they dont use it in our interests, right . Everything like that is sold to you as like james was saying out there , convenience and out there, convenience and people go, oh, okay, then. And then they adopt it. But its not about convenience, as my patronisingly tells me. Oh, technology move with oh, its technology move with the times, darling. And i dont want control. Go. Those things are want control. Listening . Those things are want control. Listening to hose things are want control. Listening to you things are want control. Listening to you allings are want control. Listening to you all the are not listening to you all the time. They only listen when you say alexa. Oh, how did they hear you no. You say alexa . No. And everything. The anything and everything. The weird up on my weird things that pop up on my phone. I couldnt be talking about these things. No like jammie dodgers. Like we just discussed , like we just discussed, because we need to really quickly because quickly mention these because we teased carol, and teased it earlier, carol, and youre talking about convenience. A lot of people youre talking about com buyence. A lot of people youre talking about com buy processed of people youre talking about com buy processed foods ple youre talking about com buy processed foods through just buy processed foods through convenience. Are the mail convenience. What are the mail saying it today . Saying about it today . Well, apparently theyre going putting warnings going to start putting warnings or yeah, a warning to say or yeah, like a warning to say that these these foods , highly that these these foods, highly processed foods, can be addictive. Well, you know, its kind of trying to what is it shut the stable door after the horse has bolted. Its too late. People bolted. Its too late. People are addicted to this stuff. And we know we know from certain things that weve seen on on Television Documentaries that fast food is deliberately made addictive , addictive so that addictive, addictive so that they can keep their customers for life and they dont refer to them as customers, users. They are users, also addicts. My friend julia bradbury, the tv presenter , sent me an tv presenter, sent me an instagram last night which just showed what looked like tubs of angel delight, hundreds of tubs of angel delight , strawberry of angel delight, strawberry flavour. But it wasnt. It was meat. It went into an oven and then so it was reconstituted meat and then you could then carve it. Its horrendous. Its horrendous. And well have more horrendous. And well have more Disgusting Things to talk about. Did you hear that, alexa. And did you hear that, alexa. And remember, alexa, i love you right. Were going to be back right. Were going to be back right. Were going to be back right after this. Continued overnight. 200 targets have been hit. Israel has begun a complete siege of the gaza strip. Strip. Police forces across the uk are on high alert with a rise in reports of hate crimes against jewish communities. Last night, three people were arrested dunng three people were arrested during pro palestinian protests outside the Israeli Embassy in london. This morning, the embassy has been boarded up. Rishi sunak has reinstated. The rishi sunak has reinstated. The uk, has reinstated the uks support for israel to deal with terrorism. Terrorism. Keir starmer, set to deliver his keynote speech later at the Labour Party Conference. Were expecting him to say labour needs in to be in power to fix broken britain. Lets go to Catherine Forster who will explain that much better than me i yes, labour in buoyant mood here in liverpool. Looking here in liverpool. Looking fonnard to keir starmer speech. Hes expected to promise to build lots of houses and promise a decade of National Renewal if they get elected and Greg Dewhurst will have your forecast. Hello there. Good morning. Weve got some heavy rain met Office Warnings in force across western parts of scotland today. Brighter skies eventually further south. Find out all the details coming up in the programme to greg. Greg with your weather forecast. Paul with your sport, forecast. Paul with your sport, yes, england have started well against bangladesh in the cricket world cup, which is undennay at the moment, and the euros will be coming back to these shores very soon. You mean theyre coming home . You mean theyre coming home . Theyre coming home. You mean theyre coming home . Iheyre coming home. You mean theyre coming home . I want coming home. You mean theyre coming home . I want you ning home. You mean theyre coming home . I want you tog home. You mean theyre coming home . I want you to avoid|e. You mean theyre coming home . I want you to avoid that. I didnt want to dare say theyre coming home all right . But they are. They are. They are coming. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Youre coming home. Footballs home. Youre coming home. Fooand s home. Youre coming home. Fooand you home. Youre coming home. Fooand you can home. Youre coming home. Fooand you can join me. Youre coming home. Fooand you can join ine. Youre coming home. Fooand you can join in any of and you can join in any of our discussions throughout the course thank you course of the morning. Thank you for your emails and your for all of your emails and your tweets morning. Keep them tweets this morning. Keep them coming views gb dot coming in. Gb views gb news dot coming in. Gb views gb news dot com tweet us at. Gb news. All right, folks, our top story this morning is israel has imposed a complete siege on of the gaza strip. That means no power, no food or gas. Power, no food or gas. Everything closed. That was the message from the Israeli Defence minister in response. Defence minister in response. Hamas has threatened to start killing individual civilian hostages for every israeli bombing of gaza. Bombing of gaza. The death toll continues to rise on both sides. Nearly rise on both sides. Nearly a thousand people have died in israel since saturdays surprise attack, including. 260 who were attack, including. 260 who were killed by hamas gunmen at a peace Music Festival. Peace Music Festival. And since israel began bombing gaza in response, approximately 687 civilians in palestine line have also died. Israel says it has finally sealed the security cordon with gaza after the breach by hamas militants on saturday after hitting 200 military targets overnight. Overnight. Tensions remain high. Demonstrators have broken out across the world. Lets look at this. This is footage of pro israel rallies. These have been held on the streets of chile. Held on the streets of chile. Theyre also in paris, brussels and colombia. And colombia. And there have also been pro palestinian protests here in london. Sites the likes of which we havent seen before, with the Israeli Embassy having to be boarded up. Well, the metropolitan police are reporting hate crimes against the Jewish Community with the Israeli Embassy in london having to take protective action when speaking at the United Synagogue in london, rishi sunak said attempts to stir up Community Tensions will not be tolerated in britain. In britain. I know that at moments like this , when the jewish people are this, when the jewish people are under attack in their homeland , under attack in their homeland, jewish people everywhere can feel less safe. Weve already feel less safe. Weve already seen vile words on our streets and attempts to stir up Community Tensions. As i say , Community Tensions. As i say, may not here, not in britain , may not here, not in britain, not in our country , not in this not in our country, not in this century. Here in britain. Century. Here in britain. And the leaders of france, germany, italy, the uk and the United States have released a joint statement. Joint statement. In it, they express their steadfast and united support to the state of israel. The state of israel. Last night, westminster was lit up in colours of the israeli flag. More than ten britons are believed to be dead or missing. But the foreign secretary says he wont speculate on the number of nationals in volved and the Prime Minister, rishi sunak, says that the uk is working closely with israel to locate any british nationals and establish if they are safe or not. It will be an anxious time for many families who have loved onesin for many families who have loved ones in the region. Its a quite complex situation on the ground. So we are working very closely with our israeli counterparts to establish the status of any british nationals on on the ground. That work is on undennay ground. That work is on undennay as we speak. But for anyone who as we speak. But for anyone who does have family or friends in the region, the most important thing for them to do is follow the Foreign Office advice, but also advice of the israeli also the advice of the israeli home command. Well the bombing home command. Well the Bombing Campaign of gaza has continued overnight. Overnight. The number of buildings destroyed that israel say are hamas targets. And throughout this , we have been speaking to this, we have been speaking to polyester urquhart, who is a journalist based in gaza. Overnight, her home was destroyed by israeli airstrikes. And just earlier she updated us from the hospital she was sheltering in. Is it the situation . Its is it the situation . Its horrible in palestine , in gaza horrible in palestine, in gaza specifically. Also the Media Coverage, like until now, many journalists are dead. Many journalists are dead. Many journalists are dead. Many journalists are injured around ten. Last time i checked around ten. Last time i checked around ten journalists. They have lost their lives. So nowhere italy can describe the situation. The can describe the situation. The last thing that that the israeli bombed was the telecom company. So can you imagine that explains why we dont have internet , we why we dont have internet, we dont have electricity. Like even to talk to your friends, journalists or other people that you know, to ask them whats happening or something. You happening or something. You cant you cant do anything. Cant you cant do anything. The Israeli Defence forces are saying that 200 buildings have been destroy overnight. Well, lets go now to the journalist, jo tam confino, whos live for us in tel aviv. Good morning to you, jo tam. Thank you very much for being with us. Weve heard from inside gaza today and weve had this update from the idf about the strikes overnight. There have strikes overnight. There have been concerns from the united nafions been concerns from the United Nations about the sea , the siege nations about the sea, the siege of the area , cutting off of of the area, cutting off of water and of power and of suppues. Water and of power and of supplies. What is the mood in supplies. What is the mood in israel . The supplies. What is the mood in israel . The public will demand no less, presumably , of benjamin no less, presumably, of Benjamin Netanyahu. That is exactly the netanyahu. That is exactly the mood a lot of people , especially mood a lot of people, especially in southern israel , people who in southern israel, people who have had relatives killed or people who are held hostage inside gaza, they have simply said that they want to see gaza turned to rubble. They want to eradicate hamas, and they dont care how many people die in this attack. And this is, of course, an expression of frustration. Its expression of frustration. Its something that a lot of israelis, they share that opinion. They do think that its justified to collectively punish people in gaza simply because theyre so outraged about this massive onslaught, this unprecedented terror attack with hamas members going from door to door and slaughtering civilians. But, of course, there are also other voices who are maybe calling for more restraint, who are maybe also saying that the children of gaza should not be paying children of gaza should not be paying a price for this. Its paying a price for this. Its they should not be without electricity and food. Okay. Interesting this is one okay. Interesting this is one part of it. The siege. What else part of it. The siege. What else do you think might happen in terms of these hostages . Because weve heard that there will be retaliatory action from hamas for every bombing of gaza, that is not notified that they are not notified of if they are in civilian areas. That must be a huge challenge. Then for the Israeli Military. Israeli military. Every minute counts right now. And israel is under immense pressure right now to figure out what to do, how to get these hostages freed. And they are in hostages freed. And they are in close contact with other countries, of course, who also have their citizens held in gaza , such as the United States, the United Kingdom , france, germany, United Kingdom, france, germany, many, many countries have people held hostage in gaza. So this is really a huge headache for israel. First of all, israel needs to figure out if it wants to negotiate with hamas and potentially release thousands of palestinian prisoners or if it will try and free the hostages by launching a Ground Invasion and simply try and free them that way. But if they do, it will cost many, many lives , both will cost many, many lives, both palestinians, israeli soldiers, and potentially also hostages. And potentially also hostages. Its very, very difficult to operate in a densely populated area such as gaza. Area such as gaza. A final point joatham what about the hostages there . Weve got headlines covering most of the newspapers here. One hostage will die for every gaza strike. So still hasnt happened. It is a threat issued by hamas yesterday. We do know that hamas yesterday. We do know that hamas has said that for all israeli hostages have been killed in israeli airstrikes. Killed in israeli airstrikes. Im just stressing in israeli air strikes. So thats, of course, a huge headache for israel , also a disaster. Course, a huge headache for israel, also a disaster. But course, a huge headache for israel , also a disaster. But no, israel, also a disaster. But no, they havent started executing , they havent started executing, but maybe they will. Hamas threats, sometimes they follow through on it. Sometimes they dont. We also hear that sometimes when they say were going to hit tel aviv at 8 00 tonight, sometimes they do, sometimes dont. Remains sometimes they dont. It remains to they will start to be seen if they will start executing. Executing. Can you just update us finally on those pockets of fighting we fighting within israel that we were on yesterday in were reporting on yesterday in several locations . Are several different locations . Are those largely under control now and israeli control . And under israeli control . They are. I just got confirmed from the military dunng confirmed from the military during a briefing with International Journalists that israel has now. First of all, they have control over the border and they also have control relative control, they say, over the border communities adjacent to the gaza border. And but they do confirm that several terrorists are still roaming around and hiding in israeli territory. So it is not 100 of control, but a much more so than, for example, 24 hours ago, chatham , confino, thank you very chatham, confino, thank you very much indeed for your time. Really appreciate your analysis as were going to show you now a video that is horrified. Anybody whos seen it since events of last saturday at the Music Festival as hamas raided Israeli Community and a Music Festival. No way. Akram khan was amongst those captured and brought back to gaza. And and brought back to gaza. And her father has been speaking to reporters , many of whom ask, reporters, many of whom ask, what can i say . My whole life since she was born, ive done my best to protect and to hug her and to support and love her. And now, in this difficult moment, it to at least encourage her. I couldnt reach out to tell her Something Like, noa, cheer up. I Something Like, noa, cheer up. I saw her boyfriend. What difficult days, difficult days and difficult days indeed. Lets get the analysis now of con coughlin. Hes defence and Foreign Affairs editor at the Daily Telegraph. Welcome back to the program. Always good see the program. Always good to see you. Difficult is the you. Con difficult days is the best way to sum it up, isnt it . And it feels as though the worst could yet be to come. Certainly for years now, authorities have really tried to avoid any sort of ground incursion into gaza. Weve amassing weve seen the troops amassing on the border there. Do you think it is inevitable and how on earth that going to work on earth is that going to work when comes civilians . Well when it comes to civilians . Well good morning to you. I think, first of all. Yes it all the indications are that israel is preparing for a ground offensive and i think after the appalling events of the last few days , the israeli people want days, the israeli people want the end of hamas. They are sick and tired of being intimidated by this iranian backed group. By this iranian backed group. This has been going on for years. So it is a challenge. And i think the Israeli Military command hours will be very aware that the hamas militants, the terrorists will have been preparing for an israeli incursion into gaza. And theyre just could be the most enormous trap being set for the israelis. They have they have made previous attempts to conduct ground offensives in gaza. And the last time they tried it, they got a nose. And i think the stakes are a lot higher now because a lot of other people will be watching. Goes on whats going on in gaza, iran , in going on in gaza, iran, in hezbollah in southern lebanon , hezbollah in southern lebanon, etcetera. So this really still has the possibility , the has the possibility, the potential to escalate even further from the terrible situation we find ourselves in now. And we know that israel takes a very clear line on its people. If anybody is at risk, you know, security is absolute what israel is all about. Security is absolute what israel is all about. And they will do whatever it takes, whether that means negotiating, negotiating with hostage takers, whether that means prisoner swaps, whether that means large sums of money as discussed , are money or as discussed, are troops going in there and that certainly, you know, a very hard and clear defined position from israel on that. Israel on that. It is. And when israel gets into this mindset, its pretty unstoppable. I mean, remember, 40 years ago i was in lebanon after the israeli israelis invaded lebanon to destroy the plo, which they basically did. Plo, which they basically did. There was enormous amount of international criticism. But the israelis just pressed ahead. And israelis just pressed ahead. And israelis just pressed ahead. And i suspect were in that sort of zone now. I think the israeli zone now. I think the Israeli Government has been shocked by its own intelligence failures , its own intelligence failures, by the scale of the murderous assault of the Hamas Terrorists. And they will want it in Old Fashioned biblical terms, revenge. And i dont think revenge. And i dont think anyones going to stop them. And i think youve seen with the overnight declaration of support from western leaders, i think the Israeli Government will draw encouragement from this and they will press ahead with their ultimate objective , which is the ultimate objective, which is the complete destruction of hamas. Complete destruction of hamas. I look to the words of Antonio Gutierrez , who was Antonio Gutierrez, who was walking on eggshells yesterday trying to recognise the grievances on both sides. But he was at pains to stress that it is illegal to involve civilians in in warfare where does this play in in warfare where does this play out . And weve got the foreign secretary coming on the program in around half an hours time. I mean, hes very clear that we will support israel if they want military support. We will but where is the will be there. But where is the line . It at any cost that the line . Is it at any cost that the allies will support netanyahu in their, you know, effectively standing up for themselves and defending themselves against this terror attack . This terror attack . Well, thats a very good question. And i think that that question. And i think that that will be in the minds of israeli commanders and politician , commanders and politician, because as weve seen , even because as weve seen, even after the appalling events of the weekend , Public Opinion the weekend, Public Opinion outside of israel can be pretty fickle. And weve already seen fickle. And weve already seen a lot of support being displayed for the palestinians. And of course, you know, in conflict, you do avoid civilians. The Israeli Military is a very professional , western style professional, western Style Organisation , one which organisation, one which understands that the International Laws of warfare. But as i said, this is going to be a very difficult operation. And weve seen before in other conflicts in the middle east that sometimes , as you know, that sometimes, as you know, youve got military groups operating in civilian areas, which makes it very difficult to distinguish between the terrorists and the civilians. Im not im not in any way condoning killing civilians, but im just trying to set out what the challenges will be. And i think youre right. I think if the israelis dont get this right and lots of civilians are killed, then International Support will quickly erode and well leave it there. Congressman, thank you very much indeed. Hes the defence and Foreign Affairs editor of the Daily Telegraph and as we wake up here in britain, you can see there the state of still clouds , of smoke escaping in clouds, of smoke escaping in gaza. Clouds, of smoke escaping in gaza. It looks like a peaceful gaza. It looks like a peaceful scene, but it is not it is not. 2. 3 Million People crowded into that little space of land. There as well. And they are now under siege. And we were hearing in the last few moments that the Israeli Defence force confirmed that they have destroyed 200 buildings in gaza overnight. Right at a judicial review has been made against the home Office Challenging the decision to house Asylum Seekers on the bibby stockholm barge docked in portland in dorset and papers will be put before a judge to decide if the case can go ahead. And were joined now by our National Reporter theo chikomba. Oh, no. Oh, in fact, were not joined by theo chikomba. We are joined by theo chikomba. We are joined by theo chikomba. We are joined by International Human rights lawyer david. Hey, good morning to you. Bring us up to speed on this legal case then. Speed on this legal case then. Good morning to you both. Well, as you said, theres a judicial review ongoing, about to be launched. Well, has been launched. Its in the courts today. And theyre deciding the judge will decide whether or not the government effectively has used effectively a wheeze and loophole clause to avoid what normally would be planning laws. So that they can proceed with the bibby stockholm. Now, the bibby stockholm. Now, theres lots of Court Battles on at the moment in various different courts about the policy, various policies , policy, the various policies, whether rwanda or this one. Whether its rwanda or this one. This has been by an this has been brought by an individual. Shes actually the mayor portland , although mayor of portland, although shes this in her personal shes doing this in her personal her personal capacity. And its effectively what shes saying is that government has that the government has circumvented what would be normal rules by using normal planning rules by using this because of that, this barge. And because of that, things like Environmental Impact , that the impact on health and the impact on equality, things that you would normally anticipate , any planning anticipate, any Planning Development to have have been avoided and that will be decided whether or not the case is Strong Enough to go to a full heanng Strong Enough to go to a full hearing parallel with the Supreme Court hearing day two there where the governments trying to appeal against the decision to say it is lawful to get those flights out to rwanda. And were not expecting those decisions until november. But the optics of these two concurrent court cases just goes to show how difficult this has been for the government on one of their five pledges to try and stop the boats. Well absolutely stop the boats. Well absolutely as well. And thats not to forget weve also got scampton and weve also got scampton and weve also got a judicial review in there and more Planning Issues there. So its complete court chaos in the in the governments immigration policy. And bit and this is a little bit different the others because different to the others because this local residents. This this is local residents. This isnt the european court, this isnt the european court, this isnt court. This is isnt the Supreme Court. This is local saying local residents saying the government circumvented government has circumvented normal rules which normal planning rules which protect local areas and they shouldnt be allowed to do that. Now whether or not this will have much impact because the barge isnt currently being used, have impact used, but it may have impact going fonnard if the government was other was looking at putting other barges. Barges in, other areas. You very much. David, weve got to leave it there. Appreciate it. Thank you. Pleasure. So all we can now go to theo chikomba. Lets go. To theo chikomba. Lets go. Lets go then. Lets find him there. So what have you got to tell us . You are a very good morning to you. Well, as your previous guest just highlighted, just a few moments ago, the mayor of portland , carolyn parks, is portland, carolyn parks, is coming to essentially get a green light to take on the whole office. But we can touch on some office. But we can touch on some of the other things which she has raised as concerns. She says local residents have not been able to challenge this decision. Seeing the barge in their area in the normal way that they would do through dorset council. So shes fighting on them on behalf of that issue. And also, behalf of that issue. And also, she says the home office is avoiding the usual standard Legal Protections such as the laws around overcrowding. Now, laws around overcrowding. Now, if we remember, we saw those pictures back in july when the barge arrived in portland and then at the beginning of august on the seventh, we saw Asylum Seekers move in onto the barge, but only after four days. We saw them being taken off after legionella bacteria was found in the water system. And over the last few months, weve seen objections from some of those local residents, but others supporting it, saying this is the right move. But it has caused a lot of contention, particularly between various groups in that area. But from 1030 today, the hearing will be taking place where the mayor will be in attendance to see whether she can get a green light to challenge the home office. Thank you, theo. Appreciate it. Thank thank you, theo. Appreciate it. Thank you. And thank you for all your views coming in re your discussion in headlines makers earlier. What an excellent discussion. Violence begets violence. How true war crimes are always wrong. Terrorism is always wrong. Phil says. Is it not possible to declare a six month moratorium on street protests . I realise protesting is a democrat, right . But a small break would give the uk some breathing space and theres lots of other messages. This morning we were talking about the slave trade. Carole says slavery still exists today and it will always exist. While greed rules destroying statues and trying to wipe out the past wont help. We need to remember whats gone before us. Thank you for sending in your views and well try to reflect some more of those a little bit later on. But now, were going to but for now, were going to check with Greg Dewhurst, who check in with Greg Dewhurst, who has news weather. Has news of our weather. Hello there. Morning. Hello there. Good morning. Im welcome to im greg jewhurst. Welcome to your gb news weather your latest gb news weather forecast. Heavy rain forecast. Weve got heavy rain across through today, across scotland through today, bringing disruption in. Bringing some disruption in. Therell spells of hazy therell be some spells of hazy sunshine elsewhere, it is sunshine in elsewhere, but it is quite a grey start this morning. Some mist and some low cloud mist and fog slowly back go slowly burning back as we go through but taking through the morning, but taking its. We can see the heavy its time. We can see the heavy rain across north west scotland is pushing its way south is slowly pushing its way south eastwards met office rain eastwards and met office rain warning here. 20 to warning in force here. 20 to 50mm of rain possible, leading to some local flooding in places cloudier further southwards across northern parts of england. But the best of the hazy sunshine once again, central and southern parts of england and wales, 23, possibly 24 degrees. That heavy rain continues to slowly push its way south eastwards through tuesday evening. The met Office Warning evening. The met Office Warning eases during the evening time as that rain clears , showers that rain clears, showers following and then rain turning heavy as it moves into wales, into the midlands during the early hours. Southeastern areas early hours. Southeastern areas staying dry. Staying generally dry. Temperatures turning fresher across single figures across the north. Single figures here holding up 14 to 16 celsius. Further south. So if this cloudy, wet zone across central parts of the uk wednesday morning, this generally slowly moving south eastwards as we head through the day. Quite a muggy feel to things here. Brighter across Northern Ireland, Northern England into scotland, quite england into scotland, but quite a north westerly a cool, blustery north westerly breeze here with some showers filtering in. Temperatures here lower recent days , 12 to 15 lower than recent days, 12 to 15 up to around 21 towards the southeast. See you soon. Southeast. See you soon. Now, look, it is keir starmer. Summers big day at the labour conference as National Campaign coordinator will be with us. N ext next go through whats happening sports wise with paul coyte. Do sports wise with paul coyte. Do you mind if i start with a dog . Do you want to start with a dog . Yeah, i like the dog. Right i think there should be more dogsin i think there should be more dogs in football. It was actually a dog that was at kenilworth road for the luton spurs game. Yeah, it was a very nice but this is something nice dog, but this is something that happened mexican that happened in the mexican league, mexican second league, the mexican second division. Here we are. Let division. Now here we are. Let this running on pitch. This dog running on the pitch. The its all over the dog thinks its all over now. The dog. Its olybrius. Oaxaca against dorados , which is oaxaca against dorados, which is a second Division Game. Not that makes any difference, but theres plenty of people there. And the dog. Runs on and theres the dog. Dog runs on the pitch who takes their to the pitch who takes their dog to football , who a lead to football, but who has a lead to entrap it with scenario with because thats what we saw. Because thats what we saw. Look, the dog is i love the fact the dogs got the ball. So not only is the dog run around, theyre chasing the dog with the ball. And those size five footballs, trust me, its not easy to your chops around easy to get your chops around that which the dog has done. So theyre of like a half theyre sort of like a half hearted chase. The dog is wagging the dog is wagging his tail. The dog is having time. Players having a great time. The players are getting involved, are not really getting involved, are not really getting involved, are theyre probably are they . Theyre probably a bit nervous whole nervous about the whole situation. With situation. Whats the guy with the string . I mean, that concerns me a little. But as you say, theres regulation size to football. In that case, its size five. In that case, its size five. Yes, its a size five. Football so and the dog only has size it cant size three chops, so it cant really grab on to it. But you know what . It was the old days. You used to get dogs at football all the time. So i like to see i like to see such a thing. What else have you got . Ive got the uefa. Well, uefa, a meeting today. Were talking about uefa. Well, uefa, a meeting todaj28 were talking about uefa. Well, uefa, a meeting todaj28 andere talking about uefa. Well, uefa, a meeting todaj28 and where king about uefa. Well, uefa, a meeting todaj28 and where its about uefa. Well, uefa, a meeting todaj28 and where its going. Uefa. Well, uefa, a meeting todaj28 and where its going to euro 28 and where its going to be. And they will announce the winning candidate a little later today. And theres one today. And theres only one candidate and that is the United Kingdom and ireland who have bid jointly for the euros. The only other competitor was going to be turkey, although then they pulled out and decided theyre going to go for one going to go for the next one with italy. It is going be with italy. So it is going to be announced, we hope it is going to be Great Britain and ireland. Thats how we assume, because were the only ones in it, although knowing the way that some these footballing , shall some of these footballing, shall we say , fifa, uefa , theyll we say, fifa, uefa, theyll probably open it up and say euro 28 is going to be in saudi arabia. But actually do but its actually supposed to be england have 28 matches. Scotland wales and ireland will have six matches. Northern ireland will have casement have five matches at casement park , which is still not quite park, which is still not quite finished yet. And the way finished yet. And the way theyre going to do the qualifying process as well is because usually if you host the tournament, youre automatically qualify this time it looks as if theres only going to be two qualification places. So thats qualification places. So thats how theyre going to do it. But everybodys going to have to qualify. Thank you, my friend. Weve got the weve got the shadow chancellor to the duchy of lancaster standing by about his old title there. Sorry. He was removed in the recent reshuffle, but welcome to the program. Very good morning to you. Pat mcfadden. Were expecting to hear from your boss today. Taking the stage at today. Hes taking the stage at labour conference. What will he be see the front of be saying . I see the front of the times talking about houses inspired the georgians. Inspired by the georgians. Yeah , we are very keen on yeah, we are very keen on building more houses and making the dream of Home Ownership real for the next generation of people , because its become far people, because its become far too difficult. And what were too difficult. And what were talking about today is not just building new houses, but building new houses, but building new houses, but building new communities. So thats why were talking about new towns. Its not just about a place to live. Its about a gp surgery, a primary school, the transport links the businesses that make up a community. See, thats what were talking about today. And thats the kind of policy thats going to be at the centre of starmer Speech Centre of keir starmer speech today. Today. Position the relationship you have with business is important to you. To you. Yes, the relationship with business is important. We are clear that for britain to become more prosperous, weve got to generate more wealth. Governments alone cant do that. We work very closely with business. Keir starmer Rachel Reeves , myself, johnny reynolds. Reeves, myself, johnny reynolds. Our business spokesperson. You know , we are we want this to be know, we are we want this to be a good country to invest in. Its not been an attractive enough investment destination in recent years, partly because of political chaos. No sense of a political chaos. No sense of a plan. So keir will be setting plan. So keir will be setting out a Long Term Plan today. Plan. So keir will be setting out a Long Term Plan today. For out a Long Term Plan today. For how we want to build the economy , how we want to generate that wealth, because frankly, thats the only way were going to be able to fund the Public Services that need the future. That we need in the future. Also a big fan of trying hes also a big fan of trying to increase devolution around the uk, but weve seen how plans to build on green belt or expand areas are often blocked at a local level. Do the two things local level. Do the two things Work Together . This idea of these new towns, these new developments and turbo charging growth, this way with increased devolution. In i think any devolution. In i think any government that gets elected doesnt have to rip everything up that a previous government has done. And youve got more devolution in england in recent years with the creation of mayors and combined authorities and so on, we think that that is working quite well. We want to working quite well. We want to build on it to pass more powers to local areas over things like planning, over skills, over local transport thought. Theres a good argument for doing this. We want to build on whats been done over the past ten years in this situation , ian, and get this situation, ian, and get more local powers to local communities. I think thats the communities. I think thats the way to go. Way to go. Go on. Go on. I wanted to ask you about the protests yesterday outside the conference in liverpool. Youll have seen the pictures as lots of people there in support of the palestinians, which weve seen has caused offence , not seen has caused offence, not least to those in the Jewish Community who have been reporting feeling under threat. And weve seen the Prime Minister coming out very much saying on my watch and saying not on my watch and standing israel. Why do you standing with israel. Why do you think its been appropriate to have protests . Have those sorts of protests . Some reporting having some people reporting having to walk gauntlet of protesters walk a gauntlet of protesters before being able to get inside their the labour Party Position on whats happened at the weekend is very clear. This was an appalling unprovoked terror attack on israel. Israel has a right to israel. Israel has a right to defend itself. It has a right to get its hostages back and it has a right to use force to do so. We stood in silence, in solidarity with the people of israel at the conference yesterday. And im very confident that keir starmer will address this issue in his speech and make clear our view that israel has a right to defend itself , a right to get its itself, a right to get its hostages back and a right to use force to do so now. Okay. Pat mcfadden , shadow okay. Pat mcfadden, shadow chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, thank you. Still to come, as londons rental market is pushing people out of the city, that story, another headline makers in the papers and online n ext next well, all going through the newspapers , as is Carol Mcgiffin newspapers, as is Carol Mcgiffin and James Schneider , who will and James Schneider, who will give their take on various things and id like to begin with the jimmy savile. If any of you saw the jimmy savile drama last night, carol, i thought it was on tonight. Was it on . Was it on . No, it was last night. No, it was last night. It was last. No, ive got absolutely zero desire to watch this. Im not interested in this. Im not interested in that, man. Even slightly. And i think im pretty certain i havent watched it and im not going to watch it. But i wonder if the bbc have actually included a giant section of their own complicity and blind ness when it came to jimmy savile because there was a massive cover up there wasnt a person in the industry who didnt know what he was like personally and also and also youve got this this friendship with the king now, charles, prince charles, as he was at the time. I mean, its just hes just a loathsome person. And being played by steve coogan is also not a very, i dont know, not very watchable person. I see not very watchable person. I see him as being pretty revolting as well. So youve got these two people, youve got a loathsome person playing and even more loathsome , i mean, in coogans loathsome, i mean, in coogans defence, he hasnt committed any crimes. No, he hasnt committed any crimes. But it doesnt make it any easier to watch for me. Did you watch it or have view on this . I havent watched it. I mean, its probably got the same weve all got the same view on on jimmy savile and his disgusting crimes. I mean, probably wont crimes. I mean, i probably wont watch but i think its watch it, but i think its completely fine for the bbc to do buti completely fine for the bbc to do but i take carols point do it. But i take carols point very firmly. That part. I hope that of script is about that part of the script is about the of large parts of the complicity of large parts of our media and huge parts of our establishment. I mean, thats really, i think, what this story is about the heinous crimes of one man. And then theres the system that allowed that to go for so long. For on so long. And it too soon . I wonder . And is it too soon . I wonder . And like a horrible reminder that he just got away with everything died. I everything because he died. I mean, its i think we should be reminded to be honest. Reminded of that, to be honest. Fact that got that he the fact that he got that he that got with with it that he got away with with it all something that because, all is something that because, you its not like there you know, its not like there arent crimes that take place today. And you know scrutiny on him and the him and his actions and the actions those that allow that actions of those that allow that to should hopefully help to happen should hopefully help for or greater for greater or greater protections today carol. English wine, hotter weather boosts Growth Prospects for engush boosts Growth Prospects for english wine maker. Yeah, this is great news actually, because i dont know if youve ever tried english wine , but its very, very good, wine, but its very, very good, isnt it . Stupidly expensive, though, i have to say. It would be good if have to say. It would be good if they could make more and make it a bit cheaper. But its they could make more and make it a bit cheaper. But its good. But obviously their crediting Climate Change for the good weather that weve had this year because theres going to be a bumper crop. So maybe they will be able to make more because as you know, i live in france and im telling you, i dont think ive ever seen and i dont think you would ever see english wine in france. Theyre quite protectionist with wine. Protectionist with their wine. And its the and i dont think its the engush and i dont think its the english being protectionist english are being protectionist about theyre one. About the sales if theyre one. I dont think they have i just dont think they have enough of it not enough is enough of it and not enough is known about it because lot of known about it because a lot of people think, oh, english people just think, oh, english wine, you know, but its not its absolutely brilliant. Its excellent. Champagne excellent. I think the champagne one of the champagnes won an award and the french were absolutely apoplectic about it. The fact that its not champagne allowed to call it, not even allowed to call it, not even allowed to call it, not even allowed to call it champagne , allowed to call it champagne, sparkling wine. It won like big some big prize to say that it was better than actual french champagne. So, yeah, i applaud them. Right. Right. Right. Lets go to the situation in gaza strip. James, we couldnt gaza strip. James, we couldnt applaud anything thats going on there at the moment. You applaud anything thats going on there at the moment. You come at this from a perspective of being pro palestinian because you were a former adviser to two. Im not in favour of human rights and dignity for all people because i was an adviser to anybody else. Its not my its not im particularly pro palestine or particularly pro palestine or particularly anything. Im particularly pro anything. Im against war crimes and pro dignity and justice and peoples rights being carried out. And what we see across the papers today is , broadly speaking, today is, broadly speaking, cheerleading for israeli war crimes, which were announced by the Israeli Government in response to atrocities that were carried out and violence begets more violence. And the British State is now in support of israeli war crimes. There are british bombs and british bullets and british diplomatic cover which are aiding these crimes against an oppressed people. And you know that that people. And you know that that is the situation that we have. Yeah, we just heard from the labour party there who even they were saying that they defend israels right to defend itself following on from defending yourself about turning a open air prison of 2. 3 Million People into rubble , which is what into rubble, which is what Benjamin Netanyahu unprovoked, though, was it because their sovereign territory was invaded and there was a series of atrocities committed, war crime , to engage in collective punishment . Its also a terrorist act, invades another country and kill children. Country and kill children. And of course, and old ladies at point blank range, of course. Absolutely horrific. Absolutely horrific. And you cant justify war crimes on the basis of other atrocities. It is completely atrocities. It is completely wrong. I dont think anyones trying to justify anything wrong. I think that, you know, you get involved in the complexities like you are here and you kind of forget whats actually happening. And its horrific on both sides. And both sides of attacked each other. I mean, it is who started it, you know, how did it happen . How did it how did it happen . How did it how did the israelis allow this to happenin did the israelis allow this to happen in the first place . Theres lots of questions that need to be answered, but you cant one, you know, you cant sit there, for james, the whole show and tell everybody about the complexities of this. The legal complexities of this. Im not talking about legal complexities. Complexities. About basic im talking about basic humanity. See, if you bomb humanity. See, if you bomb a palestinian, do they not die if you prick them, do they not bleed the same . They are they are an occupier side people. They because im saying it is not the same does not mean that i in any way justify doesnt make them worse civilians effectively. Are you a pacifist . Is that what youre saying . That we shouldnt have military . Because i mean, how else do you defend yourself when your country has been the situation . Been invaded in the situation . No, im not a pacifist. And i think that people have the right to defend themselves. And think, as the un does and i also think, as the un does , and colonised , that occupied and colonised people have the right to struggle for Self Determination, including by force within international law. Now, of course, attacking civilians is not within international law. Not within international law. And i should point out the United Nations also saying that nothing can justify the acts of terror killing, maiming and abduction of civilians that were carried out over weekend by carried out over the weekend by hamas. I carried out over the weekend by hamas. I suppose carried out over the weekend by hamas. I suppose peace talks in hamas. I suppose peace talks in all of this are absolutely key. All of this are absolutely key. Is it a generation away now . Are is it a generation away now . Are we in a worse position . I mean, everybody weve been speaking to says its a long way almost says its a long way off, almost seems intractable as a result of escalation. Well, its not as a result of the escalation, there have been no peace talks since 2014. Israel hasnt hasnt been having them. The Israeli Government is an annexationist government. The finance minister has said that palestinians living in the occupied territories have three choices they can accept subjugation by israel , they can subjugation by israel, they can leave or they can die. This is leave or they can die. This is not a government that is interested in negotiating peace, which is why we are seeing these eruptions of violence, which is which is the underlying cause of this , which is what israels this, which is what israels paper of record haaretz, had the guts to say in its editorial yesterday. Okay. Yesterday. Okay. Right. Lets talk about fireworks. Can carol, been a few here this morning. Fireworks , war, lack of fireworks, war, lack of fireworks . No, this is james fireworks . No, this is james found this story, didnt you . It was it was the another council was it was the another council was cancelling fireworks as well or guy fawkes night. Yeah. Guy fawkes. Guy fawkes night. Guy fawkes. Guy fawkes night. A whole a whole number of them. Nottingham council, a whole a whole number of them. Nottingham council , glasgow, nottingham council, glasgow, cardiff, swansea , nonnich, manchester. And that plays into the. Oh lets just spoil all the fun while we still pay ourselves massive salaries on these councils. Its the same thing isnt it . Because you dont agree with it though do you . You dont agree . No. No. Im massively opposed to it. I think that collective collective culture and joy and things that we do together are incredibly important and theyre not things that should be cut. Of course, councils have had their cut for all sorts their budgets cut for all sorts of things, but nevertheless, this is something that that this is not something that that they they should do. They should that they should do. I to have more i mean, we need to have more time, i think, together in the outside world you always bring up cuts and you know, up the budget cuts and you know, the government in councils the Government Cut in councils funding and all of that. Its how spend it, but its how they spend it, isnt it is how they spend isnt it . It is how they spend it. And they dont budget themselves. And this is what the people suffering. People themselves. And this is what the peofyou suffering. People themselves. And this is what the peofyou suffthey. People themselves. And this is what the peofyou suffthey have people themselves. And this is what the peofyou suffthey have tw0 le who you know, they have two things that they look fonnard to every christmas every year. A few Christmas Lights a bit of a bonfire. Lights and a bit of a bonfire. And they cant even have and now they cant even have that. What is actually what that. And what is actually what are cutting . Lets lets are they cutting . Lets lets have a at budget as well. I mean, theyve been forced to cut all sorts childrens services, Mental Health support i but look at what theyre still spending money on. Look at it. Look at what they still spend. It. Look at what they still spend. They waste so much money. Spend. They waste so much money. You know it. Im sure there is. There is some waste. But i think that you can have both a properly funded social care and properly funded youth centres and decent rubbish collection, all of that proper managers and have guy fawkes nights and Christmas Lights and all other sorts of nice festivities where we come together, you know, guy fawkes night for both of us always sort of ruffles our feathers a bit, doesnt it . I mean, people forget that the of it and were the origins of it all and were you were up, they would you were growing up, they would burn effigies of the pope on november the 5th, wouldnt they . Is right . Is that all right . And. No, no , no, no. Just of and. No, no, no, no. Just of guy fawkes . No, just guy fawkes. But then sometimes when you look at whats going on in parliament, youd think it is interesting that something that effectively is an anti catholic thing has become a National Collective act of celebration just a bit of fun. Stop reading so much into everything. Everything. I mean, i think that you make a good point, though, because as you know, we can change our traditions as well. And yes, of course, it started as a as a kind of loyalist thing. And even the figure of guy fawkes himself, of course, for loyalists in 1605, five, i think it was he was you know, he was a terrible figure, but he how hes presented is a bit different. You know, carol, just saying maybe we need a bit more like him now. So things change over time. But the important point about , know, all about, you know, you all remember from a kid and remember from being a kid and you on you know, you go you go on the you know, you go into park you go up the into the park or you go up the hill and theres a bonfire and fireworks and people are together. Is a nice together. And that is a nice sense of community that we should have. Should be able to have. Used to remember well, i used to remember putting into your turn up. Putting on into your turn up. We had we had a turn up and until we had. Whats whats the until we had. Whats whats the what are they called . Catherine wheels. Catherine wheels. Yeah. Oh until we had that. Yeah. Oh until we had that. But yeah , so we had, we had but yeah, so we had, we had turn ups in those days. What. What. I dont know what turn up is. Whats that. Turn it. Turn on fruit. A vegetable. Turn on fruit. A vegetable. I would turn it, turn it. Oh turn up what you have on your trousers. Trousers. Chernihiv. Sorry. Chernihiv. Sorry. Chernihiv. Sorry. What should we talk about . London rental. London rental market. And we talk about this a lot on the programme and how its just pushing people out of the city. How does anybody afford a house . Yeah, not just in london, frankly. Its and actually not just the big city, some of the bigger towns well have this bigger towns as well have this increase in in rent has just been astronomical. Well weve had 25 years now where theres been a decoupling of wage charges and housing costs. So housing costs have costs. So housing costs have gone up a lot. Wages were still going up for the first bit of that. And then wages at the level theyve been since 2005. So housing is unaffordable. Part of the problem is that our economy is far too based on financial speculation around housing, and that is part of the part of the problem. The other part of the problem. The other part is that we sold off social housing, which would be which would help to reduce the cost of housing. So we need to have a really massive expansion. And that part of what labour have that is part of what labour have been talking about at their their National Convention, which is which, but isnt it the case as well, james, though, in the private sector, the private rental sector, there is a shortage. Now because landlords have just getting out of it because of changes in the law that are all in favour of the tenants, the taxes and the lack of tax relief , a the taxes and the lack of tax relief, a lack of incentive the taxes and the lack of tax relief , a lack of incentive for relief, a lack of incentive for private landlords to invest in rental property. So there is a rental property. So there is a shortage. And whenever theres a shortage, prices go up. So, you shortage, prices go up. So, you know, thats its six of one half dozen. The other isnt it . Its a big problem. Yeah, it is a big especially in london weve got a very you know, weve got a very silly system and really the way to do it to have as many way to do it is to have as many rents as possible a at a rents as possible at a at a social rent, at an affordable rent. And means there needs to and that means there needs to be a big expansion of, of Building Social social homes. I mean, pat mcfadden, had mean, pat mcfadden, you just had there about homes to there was talking about homes to buy. Of course. Also buy. Yes, of course. We also want have homes to buy. But want to have homes to buy. But its too many policies tend its but too many policies tend to focus on that because thats what we want. We want to own we what we want. We want to own we want to own a home, but we need to have a huge expansion of social housing reduce social housing to reduce the cost homes. Cost of homes. Agree on that. We can all agree on that. We can all agree on that. To end with. Lets talk right to end with. Lets talk about processed foods, carol. Well, processed foods are to going have warnings on as i said before, its to stop people from becoming obese, apparently because they dont want people getting addicted to processed foods, but they make them to be addictive. And so until they take out all those ingredients that stop people from wanting to eat them all the time, its not going to happen. Is ice cream addictive . Is ice cream addictive . Well, not to say foods, including crisps, chocolate and ice cream. Ice cream. Id have thought of crisps. And i think things like, and i think of things like, well, want to name any well, i dont want to name any specific brand, but there are brands make that full specific brand, but there are br. Chemicals make that full specific brand, but there are br. Chemicals thatnake that full specific brand, but there are br. Chemicals that is ke that full specific brand, but there are br. Chemicals that is addictive,. L of chemicals that is addictive, though, it . Of chemicals that is addictive, tho sugar it . Of chemicals that is addictive, tho sugar yeah, and its full of sugar yeah, and its full of sugar ice cream. I its not for me because i cant eat it because ive got sensitive teeth unfortunately. Its there unfortunately. But its there are a lot of things that are addictive. Sugar is almost worse than labelling. Answer hasnt really the answer hasnt really worked in stopping people from smoking. It doesnt stop us from buying calorific foods, but it might stop the conscientious or the well informed. But the average person going into the shop, well, if its got a red traffic light, it makes it look like theyre doing something about it. And better than banning it, all they want to do is this, this is give people this, this slimming that is that slimming injection that is that is now that suddenly is out now that suddenly appeared from nowhere. Everyones just taking now everyones just taking a jab get thin. Jab to get thin. I like an ice cream. I like an ice cream. I like an ice cream. You like an ice cream . You like an ice cream . You like an ice cream . I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I like to think thatice i do. I do. I like to think that ice cream at the end of the day, is a nice way to or at the seaside with a flake in it. Yeah, i could probably manage one of those, but id be okay. But just be careful you one of those, but id be okay. Butjust be careful you dont but just be careful you dont get addicted. Dont get addicted to an ice cream addiction. To an ice cream addiction. Everything moderation everything in moderation except thats my except moderation. And thats my motto. Motto. Whats your view on processed foods and how best we should as a society tackle the crisis of obesity and addiction . So i think blaming the consumer is the is the wrong way round. I think things can be labelled and information is fine. Yeah, it is standard and its and its not. And theres a reason it doesnt work. Its not its not good enough. If you do that you need to make sure that people have more time, that its a affordable to eat healthy a more affordable to eat healthy food that kids are food and also that kids are taught to and taught about how to cook and prepare food and when theyre at school, we dont do any of the things change that. Things that would change that. And also, you know, who are and then also, you know, who are you meant to be blaming the consumer be consumer or should you be looking the producers if looking at the producers if theyre things that theyre putting things that are that harmful addictive that are harmful and addictive in products . It in their products . Deal with it upstream, the at upstream, deal with it at the at the production site rather than guilting people as if theyve done wrong most done something wrong when most people much people dont have that much control over over their control over their over their lives. Put and thank you very nicely put and thank you very much indeed. And Caroline Carroll , mcgiffin and Caroline Carroll, mcgiffin and caroline caroline, James Schneider , thank caroline, James Schneider, thank you very much. We should say, if you were standing by for the foreign secretary he is delayed, but hes going to be with us just in a few moments time. So dont go anywhere. But for now, say anywhere. But for now, we say thank very much to you, thank you both very much to you, too. And well see you in just a moment well. Good to see you at 9 00, well. Good to see you at 9 00, tuesday, the 10th of october, coming up to 9 00, its breakfast with eamonn and isabel. And heres what weve been covering on breakfast at this morning. Its really Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu who has warned that enormous force will be used against hamas as the bombing of gaza has continued overnight. 200 target have been hit. Israel has begun a complete hit. Israel has begun a complete siege of the gaza strip with Police Forces across the uk are on high alert with a rise in reports of hate crimes against jewish communities. Last night, three people were arrested during pro palestinian protests outside the Israeli Embassy in london this morning. Embassy in london this morning. Its been boarded up. Rishi sunak has restated the uk support for israel to deal with terrorism. In another news, keir terrorism. In another news, keir starmer set to deliver his keynote speech later at the Labour Party Conference. Were expecting to say labour needs in power to fix its broken britain. Our Political Correspondent Catherine Foster is there at the conference. Yes , labour in buoyant mood yes, labour in buoyant mood here in liverpool talking about a decade in power and building lots of houses and giving britain its future back. Thats the slogan. If of course they get elected, will they take you with us . Let us know. Greg dewhurst has your weather. Hello there. Good morning. Weve got some heavy rain. Met Office Warnings in force across western parts of scotland today. Brighter skies eventually further south. Find out all the details coming up in the programme. And you can join in any of the discussions by emailing gb views gbnews. Com or at. Gb emailing gb views gbnews. Com or at. Gb news. I want to cross straight away to the foreign secretary James Cleverly, whos standing for by us this morning. A very good morning to you and welcome to the programme. Would you first of all, secretary of state, give us an update on the numbers of british people that believe british people that you believe to missing in this to be dead or missing in this escalation the weekend and escalation since the weekend and what are doing assist what you are doing to assist their families who will be waiting desperately for news . Well, its very difficult for me to give anything like an accurate assessment of those numbers that you asked for. I completely understand that there will be many people who are very, very concerned about family, about loved ones who are in israel. The situation is fast in israel. The situation is fast moving and we are liaising very, very closely with the Israeli Government. One of the things that makes this situation different to others like sudan , different to others like sudan, for example, is that a very large proportion of the british nationals in israel will be dual nationals in israel will be dual nationals who regard israel as their permanent home, may even be serving with the Israeli Defence forces. And so to get any kind of assessment of number, we have to liaise closely with the Israeli Government and we are doing so. But anyone that is concerned should get in contact with the department. The Contact Details are available on our website at and we will of course provide support to any family who requests that of us. What about danger as home secretary . You know, so many secretary . You know, so many british people want to go there, so many british people are there. What would you say to them . Them . Well, look, we recognise that because of the holiday , the because of the holiday, the religious holiday in israel, a number of people have travelled there for that occasion. We are working closely with israeli air traffic control, a very, very professional organisation , professional organisation, aiden, and the air industry , to aiden, and the air industry, to make sure that commercial flights are still running. And although some have been cancelled , there is still cancelled, there is still a significant number of commercial flights. So we are saying to people if they want to leave israel, to do so, israel, if they choose to do so, they should do so via the commercial flights that are available or via the land borders with egypt and jordan, which are still open. Which are still open. Can i ask you about the military assistance and support that you and the Prime Minister have pledged to israel and very much defend their right to defend what does defend themselves . What does that support look like militarily . What can the british militarily . What can the british people be expecting in terms of what we are offering them . What we are offering them . Well, we will continue to work closely with the Israeli Government about what they need. Now, obviously, they are a mature, sophisticated , edited mature, sophisticated, edited democracy. They are a highly capable country. We and again, capable country. We and again, im not going to go into details about what they may ask of us in the future, but we are working very closely with them. They very closely with them. They know that they have our support. They know that we will continue to work with them to help protect their country and the people of their country. And of course, to regain those people who have been kidnapped by the Hamas Terrorists. By the Hamas Terrorists. Home secretary, a lot to get through. Get your head around today. What do you think in today. What do you think in terms of , you know, what people terms of, you know, what people need . What do people need most of all at this time of the year i well , we have to understand well, we have to understand that israel has experienced an unprecedented terrorist atrocity , hundreds upon hundreds of people , all killed, children , people, all killed, children, men, women, civilians , yrs old men, women, civilians, yrs old People Killed and kidnapped. So People Killed and kidnapped. So the International Support is incredibly important to them. Its meaningful for them. Of course they are absolutely determined to focus their response exclusively on the Hamas Terrorists operating out of gaza and they are very, very keen that this violence does not spill over either onto the west bank or to the countries on their borders. So we are working their borders. So we are working diplomatically with the countries in the region to try and ensure that hamas dont get what they want, which is to turn this into a wider conflict. Israel is focussed exclusively on hamas and gaza and we are supporting them in their response. Yeah and foreign secretary, i know you have to go just really cant let go just really cant let you go without asking you about the scenes that weve seen here in london the israeli london outside the Israeli Embassy. Em bassy. Lot of embassy. Lot of jewish people see a lot of jewish people very, concerned about the very, very concerned about the situation. Seen one situation. Weve even seen one headmaster about headmaster talking about children to wear children not having to wear their the of their blazers with the star of david you like to david on. What would you like to say about that . , the Prime Minister, the well, the Prime Minister, the home secretary the whole of government. Take the protection of all people in the uk incredibly seriously and we know that when there are situations like this in the middle east and Jewish Community here in the uk is targeted. The home secretary is targeted. The home secretary has written out to Police Chiefs across the country instructing them to give enhanced reassurance to the Jewish Community and enhanced protection to the Jewish Community. Everyone in the uk has the right to live in peace and security, particularly the Jewish Community. At these difficult times. And the difficult times. And the government is absolutely determined to make sure that remains the case. Thank you. Thank you, foreign secretary. Really appreciate that. Well leave it there. Thank you very much indeed. And lets bring you up to date with the latest developments on the israeli and hamas conflict. Israel has hamas conflict. Israel has imposed a complete siege of the gaza strip. Gaza strip. Well, that means no power, no food, no gas, everything being closed off. That was very much the message from the Israeli Defence minister. But in response, hamas has threatened to start killing civilian hostages if israel continues to bomb gaza. The death toll continues to rise on both sides. About 900 people have died in israel since saturdays surprise attack, including up to 60 people who were killed by hamas gunmen at the Music Festival. Well, since israel began bombing gaza in response , almost bombing gaza in response, almost 690 palestinians have died. 690 palestinians have died. Israel says it has finally sealed the security cordon with gaza after the breach by hamas militants on saturday after hitting 200 militant targets overnight. Right. Overnight. Right. Well, tensions remain high as demonstrations break out across the world. Were receiving footage of pro israeli rallies that have been held on the streets of chile as well as in paris, brussels and colombia. Paris, brussels and colombia. And there were also these scenes in the capital last night. Hopefully, we can hear some of the crowds as they gathered outside the Israeli Embassy, the likes of which we havent seen, certainly in kensington in its unprecedented , frankly. And the Israeli Embassy took the protective action of boarding itself up. Action of boarding itself up. The metropolitan police have reported that there have been hate crimes against the Jewish Community with the israeli. Community with the israeli. Well, speaking at the United Synagogue in london, rishi sunak said attempts to stir up Community Tensions will not be tolerated in britain. I know tolerated in britain. I know that at moments like this , when that at moments like this, when the jewish people are under attack in their homeland, jewish people everywhere can feel less safe. Safe. Weve already seen vile words on our streets and attempts to stir up Community Tensions. On our streets and attempts to stir up Community Tensions. I say not here, not in britain , say not here, not in britain, not in our country , not in this not in our country, not in this century. Century. The leaders of france , the leaders of france, germany, italy and the uk and the United States have released a joint statement expressing their steadfast and united support of the state of israel. Support of the state of israel. Well, last night, the palace of westminster was lit up in colours of the israeli flag. More than ten britons are believed to be dead or missing in israel. But the foreign secretary in the last few moments said wont moments has said he wont speculate on total number of speculate on the total number of british involved. Prime minister says that the Prime Minister says that the uk is working closely with israel to locate and bring any british nationals to safety. British nationals to safety. It will be an anxious time for many families who have loved onesin for many families who have loved ones in the region. Its a quite complex situation on the ground. So we are working very closely with our israeli counterparts to establish the status of any british nationals on on the ground that work is undennay away as we speak. But for anyone who does have family or friends in the region, the most important thing for them to do is follow the Foreign Office advice, but also the advice of the israeli home command. The israeli home command. Lets go to former minister of the israeli parliament, dr. Einat wilf , whos live for us in einat wilf, whos live for us in tel aviv. Dr. Wolff, good morning to you. Morning to you. To you to a sad day today. To you to a sad day today. Its very difficult to see a way out of this situation. Way out of this situation. It is all horrific as were slowly beginning to get a sense of the magnet of everything that has transpired on saturday. The butchery , the executions , these butchery, the executions, these are scenes that weve not seen against jews since the holocaust , since the pogroms in Eastern Europe four years, i have been arguing, explaining that this is the palestine ninian vision. This is the goal. And no one wanted to believe. We wanted to wanted to believe. We wanted to think that all of this is in history , that not these are history, that not these are people who are long dead and that the british fought and defeat id, but that ideology is very much alive here in the region and it is alive among palestinians and hamas represent. Thats the ethos that says the jews cannot not be sovereign in this land. This land. I dont know if you personally are behind netanya politically, but im interested to get your perspective. You know, theres been criticism over the last few days that perhaps some of his legislation on toughening the courts , for on toughening the courts, for example, had taken the eye off the ball. I am being told weve lost our link there to tel aviv. Are i dont know how much you heard of my question. I was just trying to find out. I dont know how much your support is for netanyahu. Hes been criticised for how this was ever able to happen. A big lapse in intelligence and there is risk intelligence and there is a risk and want know if you accept and i want to know if you accept this as idea that he could go this as an idea that he could go too far compensating that too far compensating for that miss retaliation. Ian, do miss in his retaliation. Ian, do you worry, as United Nations you worry, as the United Nations does, about Ground Forces going in humanitarian risk to in the humanitarian risk to women, to children and about the siege which will cut off suppues siege which will cut off supplies to people who are innocent in all of this . Innocent in all of this . First, its important that people open a map and notice that gaza has a border with egypt. That gaza has a border with egypt. This that gaza has a border with egypt. This is something that people conveniently forget , people conveniently forget, somehow making it all about israel blockading or laying siege. Gaza has a border with egypt. Is that border open . Arab country that is egypts responsibility, not its not open. Responsibility, not its not open. Its sometimes open. But open. Its sometimes open. But it is egypts responsibility , it is egypts responsibility, not ours. Gods has a border with an arab country. Egypt is israel. And weve seen the people in gaza. Weve seen what they do when given the chance. You have now protection for jews in britain. You have wall. You have now protection for jews in britain. You have wall. We in britain. You have wall. We had walls. The reason that jews need protection is that this is what palestinians. This is what our enemies do when given the chance. Our enemies do when given the chance. Yeah. And the question chance. Yeah. And the question is whether you or others plan to give them the chance once more. I suppose my question was, do you think that netanyahu has a mandate for whatever action he is planning in the next few days . You know, arguably would the sorry, the israeli public expect that anything less than the action that hes taking , the the action that hes taking, the entire state of israel, its not about this or that one person, the entire state of israel and the entire state of israel and the jewish people. And i would say the free world, who should all be supporting zionism as a movement of liberation and standing up of the jewish people. The whole the jewish people. The whole world has as the mandate to ensure that jewish people will not be massacred in the name of a revivalist ideology. And what would you do, catherine, to make sure that they are not . We established our state in order so that jews will not be slaughtered. We protected our state. We established an army too many people around the world have indulged the palestinians thinking that these are a people who seek nothing more than freedom or ending the occupation or improving the lives of people in gaza. Listen to what they in gaza. Listen to what they have to say. Look at their actions. Listen to what theyve actions. Listen to what theyve did and decided for over a century, they have made it clear their goal is has always been for the jews not to have a state. We need to defeat that ideology just like you defeated the ideology. Nothing less than that. Okay. Dr. Anat wolf, former member of the knesset, and author of the war of return. Thanks for your time this morning. Appreciate it. Thank you. In a speech today, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, will promise a decade of National Renewal as he promises a generation of towns to get generation of new towns to get in building again under in britain building again under labour proposals , state backed labour proposals, state backed companies with compulsory purchase powers would snap up land at capped rates in order to improve affordable Home Ownership. What can we ownership. So what can we expect . Lets ask our Political Correspondent, Catherine Foster , whos there at conference. Theyre making all the right soundings , catherine. Soundings, catherine. Yes, they are. And they are yes, they are. And they are in really buoyant mood here in liverpool. Its quite liverpool. Its quite astonishing the change in labour fortunes. Its only three years that Jeremy Corbyn led them to their worst result since 1935. But here now , they believe that but here now, they believe that they can get a decade in power. Theyre talking about National Renewal. Theyre saying, lets get britains future back now. Keir starmer theyre treading a very fine line. They want a very fine line. They want a safety first approach. They dont want to frighten the horses. They dont want to endanger their poll lead. But at the same time, they need to make a positive offering for why voters should vote for them rather than just, as the polls indicate that being fed up with the conservatives. So i expect it will be fairly light in terms of policies, but a big offer on housing. We know, of course , housing. We know, of course, theres a massive housing crisis thats likely to go down. Well. How easy that will be to actually do, of course, is another matter entirely. Right. Hold that thought. Well be crossing back to you throughout the programme today. Throughout the programme today. They all here on gb news. Still to come, Mental Health day. Are you looking for a great way to make your children smile all the time . Ti me . Always. Always. Well be telling you how to do that after this. Its world month health day Mental Health day is a mouthful. One day to look after yourself is yoga. And a 98 year old world war ii veteran has been teaching a weekly yoga class for over 40 years. See, we need a bit of that. See, we need a bit of that. Dorothea baron, who is in the wrens, is arguably more supple than probably most of us will ever be. She shares with us what her secret to a long and healthy life is. Lisa hartle went to meet her along in one of her yoga classes. Yeah, yeah. Yoga classes. Yeah, yeah. Sevilla lower your left foot to the floor. Your. Im dorothea baron, a widow now. And im going to be 99 years old on the 25th of this month. Month. Dorothea a world war ii veteran, has been teaching yoga for over 40 years as it does, it has and does keep you supple. Has and does keep you supple. And to be able to bend down and pick something up off the floor or in my case, in the garden, pulling up weeds is all the time. Of course, you have the time. Of course, you have the time. Of course, you have the same friends whom you meet every time, which is very pleasant , lovely friends. Pleasant, lovely friends. Some of the women coming to the weekly class now in hertfordshire have been doing so for decades. For decades. Its helped me a great deal mentally, i think to start with , because you you become immersed in the yoga, you , um, immersed in the yoga, you, um, you can think about nothing else. And i think thats very good for an hour and a half of that is very good for you. Oh, it keeps you supple. Helps to keep you supple. Helps to keep you supple. And i mean, you inevitably in life, you get various injuries and it helps the recovery from that, too. A lot of the exercises, i think, overlap with physio. Think, overlap with physio. Dorothea is unique. I mean, dorothea is unique. I mean, at 99 to be doing what shes doing, she can still do things that i have never been able to do and shes amazing, that i have never been able to do and shes amazing , just amazing. So what is dorothea secret to having such a long and healthy life . Life . I love fruit and i love vegetables and im not over it. Im out with meat or fish. I im out with meat or fish. I have it occasionally , i suppose have it occasionally, i suppose. Sherlock like him. What i liked to eat. Oh, i. Sherlock like him. What i liked to eat. Oh, i drink alcohol every day. And i love guinness. Yes. And i drink it guinness. Yes. And i drink it because of the iron in it. Oh, because of the iron in it. Oh, theres always a bottle of guinness handy or can of guinness handy or can of guinness handy or can of guinness handy for me. And wine. I love wine. Have wine every evening. With what im eating. Bond glass. Possibly one and bond glass. Possibly one and a half, but never in excess. Half, but never in excess. I asked dorothea what she thinks of the way people are treated. Depending on their age in the uk , they dont age. In the uk, they dont age. Does not exist. It shouldnt exist , but does not exist. It shouldnt exist, but its just the person youre talking to who exists. Its not an age youre talking to. I talk to kids and animals exactly the same way i talk to people there , other living people there, other living beings. Beings. After decades of helping people through yoga, dorothea says she has no plans of stopping anytime soon. Lisa hartle gb news hertfordshire. Hartle gb news hertfordshire. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. What an inspiration. 98 is not young. And you 98 is not young. And you know, she was putting most of us to shame and goodness me and her sort of attitude to life. You know, i love alcohol. I love food. But it was in moderation. Food. But it was in moderation. An and the advice is surround yourself with pictures of things that make you smile. That make you smile. Here. Heres what makes isabel smile. Oh, yeah. Isabel smile. Oh, yeah. Picture pictures of my family , my kitten, which apparently there to show. There is science to show. Theres your family. Theres your family. Theres your family. Thats everybody gathered together. Is poppy and together. There is poppy and william and liam. And together. There is poppy and william and liam. And there is william and liam. And there is henry, the protector. Hector the protector. Hector the protector. Hector the protector. Oh, thats a nice picture. Oh, thats a nice picture. Theres a little cutie. And theres your lot. Theres a lot of us. Your obe party. Your obe party. Me, theres my granddaughter. And so the idea is. And theres and so the idea is. And theres maggie. Ones a statue and ones really her. And theres my brother , band of brothers and brother, band of brothers and yeah , theres my dad. And that yeah, theres my dad. And that was the car that we, we went around to holidays and theres the queen of everything. My josephine , my, my late mother josephine, my, my late mother and. Yeah, so. So, look, put those pictures around you smile and be thankful for what you have. Well be back tomorrow, same time, 6 00 through to 930. But up next, its britains newsroom with andrew and bev. Bye bye good morning. Its 930 on tuesday, the 10th of october. This is britains newsroom on gb news. With me, andrew pierce, live here at the Labour Party Conference in liverpool and bev turner in london. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has pledged to crush hamas as he compared the terrorist group to the islamic state. The bombing of gaza continued overnight and hamas warned that if israel does not end its bombardment, it will execute one civilian live on television for every bomb that is dropped without warning. Is dropped without warning. And pro Palestinian Protesters have gathered in new york, buenos aires and london, where three people were arrested last night outside israels embassy rishi sunak. The Prime Minister said attempts to stir up Community Tensions will not be tolerated. Be tolerated. I no , not here, not in i say no, not here, not in britain, not in our country, not in this century. Say it as it is. That was the say it as it is. That was the message from the immigration minister, robert jenrick, to the bbc as the channel refuses to call hamas to tourists. Instead, they are still saying they are