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Your sports today. Huge day. Chris, what do we got . Yeah. Morning whos going through to the Rugby World Cup quarterfinals . England and wales are can Scotland Join them by beating ireland . Beating ireland . Well, its lovely to be with you this lovely morning. Looking fonnard nice barbecue fonnard to some nice barbecue weather well. Well tell you weather as well. Well tell you all on. Good all about that later on. Good morning. Im anne diamond. And im Martin Daubney and this breakfast gb news. This is breakfast on gb news. Yeah, i mean, you dont expect this sort of weather in october. Thats whats making it pretty historic. A lot of the pretty historic. A lot of the papers this morning are sort of talking about an october heatwave. Im absolutely loving it. And certainly it was lovely weather yesterday in most parts. I was in my garden yesterday, did a bit of planting and a can of beer and the sun. You dont expect it felt like you dont expect to in october just felt amazing and long it continue. And long may it continue. People say, its some people say, oh its Climate Change, terrible, Climate Change, its terrible, but feels blooming good. Yeah, well, i think it is climate and whats Climate Change and whats causing or what bits of causing it or what bits of Climate Change you want to argue about up you. If the about is up to you. But if the weather is nice in your garden or or wherever, or on your balcony or wherever, you can get out to in the park, then enjoy it while you can. Because we thought summer was well truly over, didnt we . Well and truly over, didnt we . Let us know youre and let us know what youre going today. News going to do today. Gb views news at cbnnews. Com of course, the papers saying this is papers are all saying this is the last to have the last weekend to have a barbecue and there is wet barbecue and there is some wet weather scotland. So we weather up in scotland. So we have north south divide. Weve have a north south divide. Weve got nathan talk us all got nathan rouse. Talk us all through show. Through that in the show. But im saying fantastic. Im saying it feels fantastic. Lets stuck in it. Lets get stuck in it. How are you going to does how are you going to spend the last few moments of summer the next few days . Summer over the next few days . Wed hear you. Wed love to hear you. Vaiews gbnews. Com if youve vaiews gbnews. Com and if youve got pictures of your garden got any pictures of your garden is looking maybe like is looking like maybe like martin were actually out in martin you were actually out in the garden doing stuff you wouldnt think of doing in october, planting. You said you october, planting. You said you were planting. Got some. Ive got some ive got some. Ive got some of next years plants coming up already. Theyre completely confused. Year confused. Its that time of year where know what time where they dont know what time of and thats a bit of of year, and thats a bit of a worry, almost, isnt it . But if youre out in the garden yesterday afternoon, wed love to see a picture. We do like picture a saturday like a picture on a saturday morning. Send it to us. Gb views at a lot at cbnnews. Com. Meanwhile, a lot of politics is going on. And so our story this morning is our top story this morning is following. Starmers following. Sir Keir Starmers claim blew doors claim that labour blew the doors off thursdays scottish by election but you have to ask, dont you , where does this leave dont you, where does this leave the snp . You do because labours Michael Shanks won 58. 5 of the vote in the latest by election with a larger than expected swing of a whopping 20. 4, indicating that the snps dream of independence perhaps is dying now. Its all very well for the politicians to talk it one way or another and to talk about statistics. But if youre a scot statistics. But if youre a scot and you really did believe in india attendance, has your dream been shattered . And if youre a been shattered . And if youre a scot that thinks the way, been shattered . And if youre a sco you it thinks the way, been shattered . And if youre a sco you at. Hinks the way, been shattered . And if youre a sco you at lasts the way, been shattered . And if youre a sco you at last thinking way, been shattered . And if youre a scoyou at last thinking maybe are you at last thinking maybe were seeing some sense at last . Who knows . Our reporter tamsin who knows . Our reporter Tamsin Roberts takes a look at the background of labours newest scottish mp, Michael Shanks. Scottish mp, Michael Shanks. Meet labours newest scottish mp Michael Shanks, who won more than 50 of the vote to take the rutherglen and Hamilton West by election, putting a smile on his bosss face. Who hope its a sign of things to come at the general election. Ive been determined from the moment i took over as leader of the labour party to take us from one of the defeats since the of the worst defeats since the 1930 to us a general 1930 for to us a general election victory. Election victory. And thats why weve worked so hard to change the labour party. Ive always said the route to that general election runs through scotland and that is because i know how strongly we so many people in scotland want change. It feels incredible feel to represent the community that i live in, the community that i love, but also i do feel the responsibility of thousands of people that have put their trust in me since the absolutely extraordinary result, a seismic result, and i think this will send shockwaves through snp. Send shockwaves through the snp. Else do we know but what else do we know about teacher about the 35 year old teacher turned politician . Well, hes previous he hit the headlines away from the world of politics for running all of glasgows 6000 streets. He took on this incredible challenge at the beginning of the first covid lockdown when as a way of making the most of his daily exercise as. But does he have any experience of politics . Well kind of. Hes unsuccessfully stood for election before, three times between 2012 and 2017. He also quit the labour party on the day of the 2019 general election in protest at the partys stance on brexit. And he continues to have different opinions to the labour leader, particularly it seems, over a potential plan to re engage, if not rejoin , join the european not rejoin, join the European Union. Tamsin roberts gb news is union. Tamsin roberts gb news is my goodness. Earlier i was just thinking, my goodness, you know what a reaction from so many people. Yeah and its interesting that the mp has had a few beefs with keir starmer historically, so that i think is really healthy. That i think is really healthy. I think its healthy that people disagree in politics on things like brexit, it allows us to like brexit, and it allows us to have more fruitful conversations about what brings together about what brings us together and their success the and was the their success the other day seismic or i mean , we other day seismic or i mean, we know in some quarters they just say, no, no, it was just another swing as lots of evidence. So lots tactical voting lots of talk of tactical voting of the conservative gives swinging to labour just to boot the snp up the old posterior. Yeah absolutely. Yeah which will have an effect wont it. Will have an effect wont it. Well earlier on our reporter tony mcguire spoke to some of the local people and asked them if this means their dream perhaps independence is dead. Perhaps of independence is dead. No i dont think so. No, i dont think so. No, i dont think so. I hope its dead fingers. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. But i think theres bigger issues to sort out than independence. I think its dead. Well, ive not heard much about it now. It used to be all over the news, but dont hear it now. But you dont hear it now. I hopefully it would be a we would vote independence. Smashing things. You think independence is still theres still a chance of it or. I dont support independence. So i voted for the labour candidate. Fascinating , isnt it . Fascinating, isnt it . Fascinating, isnt it . Yeah. It does seem that the mood is relatively downbeat. Mood is relatively downbeat. Bearin mood is relatively downbeat. Bear in mind that that was previously an snp seat, although tom hannood pointing out today it is a seat thats flip flopped a lot historically and won corbyn that seat. Yes. So its one thats up for grabs. But anyway, joining us now is our political commentator alex alm. Strong you alex. Strong good morning to you alex. So the big question is so yeah the big question is after that seismic by election victory independence facing victory is independence facing its exit potential its own exit potential earthquake is independence dream dying for the snp . Dying for the snp . Yeah, its a fascinating day for the snp. They you know traditionally even in terms of turbulence in british politics, the snp have managed to hold on to those seats. Theyve won nine out of 11 by elections in the past. So i mean, look, i dont know whether the independence itself off the view of independence is going to go away. I think thats something thats going to stick around for quite some time. But you know, to humza yousaf yesterday to have humza yousaf yesterday say that, you know , we dont say that, you know, we dont want to take this as a sign of general election next year , general election next year, frankly, dont know whether frankly, i dont know whether thats going to be something thats going to be something that that the snp agree with. That that the snp agree with. You know, he is down at a 7 on his own approval rating. So look lets see what happens over the next few weeks with his own leadership. I would be very fascinated to see it. I mean, the snp historically are very, very good at grassroots politics, arent they . Theyre very good at knocking on doors and lobbying for their point of view. But of course up until now theyve had Nicola Sturgeon the for quite sturgeon at the helm for quite a long time anyway, who is a terrific speaker. So maybe terrific speaker. So maybe theyve just lost some of that momentum. Do you think they can ever get any of it back . Well, look , i think the snp well, look, i think the snp thrive on a strong leader and as i was just saying , you know, i was just saying, you know, despite humza being on times magazines front page the other day, i think there suffering from that lack of leadership at the moment thats really the moment and thats really going damage the snps going to damage the snps attempt to, you know, swing more voters to the cause of independence. S now does that independence. S now does that mean that theyre going to get wiped out at the next general election . I dont know. And, you know, think its very know, i think its very important to that by important to say that by elections are not a strong reflection what a general reflection of what a general election would like. But reflection of what a general elecbeingjuld like. But reflection of what a general elecbeing said, like. But reflection of what a general elecbeing said, thinke. But reflection of what a general elecbeing said, think theres that being said, i think theres a questions about his a lot of questions about his leadership and whether hes the man the snp. The man that can take the snp. The true goal of his whole Political Party, is independence in party, which is independence in the place. The first place. Certainly if you it certainly seems if you look at the polling on independence, is independence, the appetite is lessening. In fact, theres been lessening. In fact, theres been no appetite for majority view no appetite for a majority view on independence since november 2020. Alex and the gulf is widening, of course , polls widening, of course, polls arent the real world. No polls predicted brexit, no polls predicted brexit, no polls predicted donald trump. But it does seem that with sturgeon and falling away and the scandal that enveloped the party and use that, it has to be said, seems wing divisive. A lot of people are starting to say that independence is withering on the vine. Vine. Yeah, i mean, look, i actually was living in scotland dunng actually was living in scotland during the Better Together the independence referendum campaign. And i was out on the street to talking scottish people. You know, it is a very divided nafion know, it is a very divided nation on this topic. And i still think today that hasnt changed. Dont know whether changed. I dont know whether the polls are reflective of scotlands opinion on the union, but what ill say is this, that there are a lot of scottish people are very passion about being independent. And id say the about brexit here in the same about brexit here in the same about brexit here in the. In england, where the uk. In england, where theres english people theres a lot of english people are passionate about that theres a lot of english people are people ;sionate about that theres a lot of english people are people dontte about that theres a lot of english people are people dontte aboutchange and people dont tend to change their with the wind on their minds with the wind on that one. Thats something that seems be an entrenched value seems to be an entrenched value in. Seems be very in people. It seems to be very difficult that small difficult for that very small minority to swing minority of people to swing their thoughts on it. You know, they need win sort of 20 they do need to win sort of 20 of those union voters to get over the line. And i dont think over the line. And i dont think its going away. Ill be honest with you. I really dont think independence is going that the snp will use as a hook for the next general election. I think theyll try and bounce back, but i do think theyll have questions about their leader and i think thats a very important thing for us to about. Thing for us to talk about. Fascinating see. Fascinating to see. Yeah, even those who yeah, suddenly even those who werent terribly interested in what happening in scotland, what was happening in scotland, suddenly i think it is very, very and could be very interesting and could be highly influential on the general election, couldnt it . Thank so for joining thank you so much for joining us. Thank thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. Thank you. Well, lets have a look at some of the other stories that are coming into the newsroom this morning. Into the newsroom this morning. The uk is on course to yeah, the uk is on course to see its biggest tax rise in at least 50 years. As a result of the freeze on personal threshold and soaring inflation, according to new analysis by the Resolution Foundation, taxpayers are set to hand over a whopping £40 billion a year by 2028, up from a forecast 30 billion at the time of chancellor jeremy hunts the time of chancellor jeremy hunts budget in march. The governments policy is to keep income tax and National Insurance thresholds frozen until 2028. It comes as mr hunt ruled out sizeable tax cuts this year amid tory calls for a pre election giveaway at the conservative Party Conference. Northern and southern parts of the uk will continue to see a contrast in weather this weekend , with High Temperatures and torrential rainfall. Torrential rainfall affecting different areas. The met office has issued both amber and yellow rain warnings for large parts of scotland and Northern England through to tomorrow morning. And through to tomorrow morning. And Train Services in scotland are expected to be disrupted with some operators warning passengers not to travel because of the rain. Of the rain. A north south divide on the weather, too. Moving on, rishi sunak has said he hopes tensions between canada and india will de escalate after a diplomatic row over the killing of a sikh separatist leader last month. Canadian Prime Ministerjustin canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in parliament there were credible allegations that india was involved in Hardeep Singh nayyars death. In singh nayyars death. In retaliation to the comments, india ordered, told canada that 41 of their diplomats would be removed from the country. Removed from the country. Okay, well , if youre set to okay, well, if youre set to mourn the passing of summer, hold on, because winter is not here yet. And you could even say maybe not autumn as well, because we are to going enjoy temperatures or at least some of us temperatures of something us are temperatures of Something Like 22 degrees for the next five days is fantastic. Five days is fantastic. Temperatures today could reach 25 degrees today and up to 27 degrees on sunday, making it unusually and spectacularly warm for an october. Yeah, theyre calling it an october heatwave. Wow. Here to october heatwave. Wow. Here to tell us more weather journalist nathan rao. Good morning. Nathan rao. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Well, smiles on our faces. Well, smiles on our faces. Well, smiles on our faces. Oh, arent we cheerful this morning . The summer is back. Yeah, there is this yeah, except there is this north that weve north south divide that weve been spectacular been hinting at and spectacular rain happening. Yes. So shall we start with the bad news first . Bad news first is yeah, bad news first is across scotland. Now, this is where the jet stream is positioned, is sort of why positioned, which is sort of why were air in were getting the warmer air in the the jet stream is the south. But the jet stream is right across scotland. And this is where theres going be is where theres going to be some very heavy rain, as some very, very heavy rain, as you between you mentioned, between now and 6 am. Morning. You mentioned, between now and 6 an how morning. You mentioned, between now and 6 an how heavy . Norning. How heavy . How heavy . Seven inches in in quite a short time. So that is a lot of rain. And is an amber met rain. And there is an Amber Met Office weather warning within a yellow weather warning really across of scotland for across the whole of scotland for flash possible damage across the whole of scotland for flebuildings, possible damage across the whole of scotland for flebuildings, disruption damage to buildings, disruption to travel danger travel and theres also a danger to warning for to life warning, warning for people be careful when this people to be careful when this sort intense rainfall comes sort of intense rainfall comes very can cause flash very quickly. It can cause flash flooding, elsewhere, flooding, but elsewhere, its a much better picture. It makes you wonder if Nicola Sturgeons been doing a rain dance. The labour say dance. Doesnt the labour say so . Where that jet stream so . Where is that jet stream coming from is this coming from and why is this weather unseen finally upon us . Right. Weather unseen finally upon us . Rig so jet stream, this is so the jet stream, this is the polar front jet stream and that band of very fast that is a band of very fast moving air runs sort of moving air that runs sort of around the northern hemisphere. And has further north and that has moved further north than would expect it at this than we would expect it at this time when the jet time of year. And when the jet stream north, that stream moves further north, that allows to build allows High Pressure to build from south. And there is a from the south. And there is a warmer almost, you could warmer sort of almost, you could say, a heat across europe say, a heat wave across europe at the moment. And that High Pressure across the south with the northerly position jet stream air stream is allowing that warm air to from south. So to come up from the south. So were getting temperatures of 27 degrees which is degrees tomorrow, which is really unusual for this time. Were going come nathan, were going to come back for a bit more on back to you for a bit more on that in just a couple that heatwave in just a couple of but right its of moments. But right now, its time headlines and it time for some headlines and it is exactly 6 15. A reminder is exactly 6 15. So a reminder of our story this morning of our top story this morning after the labour party heralded yesterdays success in the by election. Today. We by election. A seismic today. We have to ask, dont we is Scottish Independence facing a bit of an earthquake and as we just discussed with nathan row, have you noticed its turning much warmer recently . Much warmer recently . Were experiencing apparently were experiencing an blast of warm october an unusual blast of warm october weather here. But how long will it last . It last . And then in new york, an Appeals Court has temporarily halted Donald Trumps property dissolution amongst while its going on his civil fraud case appeal. Going on his civil fraud case appeal. Well find out a bit appeal. Well find out a bit more about the weather now. Here we go. Hello there. Very good morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey here with your latest gb news Weather Forecast provided by the met office. Certainly a different feeling day for those in the north to those in the south, High Pressure pushing south, High Pressure is pushing in continental europe, in from continental europe, importing heat for southern areas. Trailing frontal areas. But this trailing frontal system to be providing system is going to be providing very heavy and persistent rain across much scotland across much of scotland throughout there is an throughout the day. There is an amber warning in force amber weather warning in force with and disruption to with flooding and disruption to transport likely in place, says the potential for a months worth of rainfall to fall in some local regions and may even lead to some shallow landslides. So do take care for northern ireland, wales and england are largely dry day. Some hazy sunshine around at times, temperatures climbing towards 23 c in the south east, where wed normally be around 16 degrees at time of the degrees at this time of the yean degrees at this time of the year. Rain will continue , year. The rain will continue, though, across scotland as we head over night. Again, some heavy pulses around times. Head over night. Again, some heavy areas s around times. Head over night. Again, some heavy areas generally times. Head over night. Again, some heavy areas generally staying. Other areas generally staying dry, but well start to see some cloud eastern areas of cloud push into eastern areas of england overnight. Turning a little murkier most of little bit murkier here. Most of us, seeing temperatures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up seeing temperatures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up around eing temperatures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up around 12g temperatures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up around 12 to emperatures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up around 12 to 13 c. Zratures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up around 12 to 13 c. So ures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up around 12 to 13 c. So aes hot up around 12 to 13 c. So a fairly mild start to sunday. The rain across scotland will gradually push its way northwards during the day on sunday. Still some heavy pulses for aberdeen and the highlands to begin with and then eventually into the Northern Isles on. The cloud in the isles later on. The cloud in the east be a bit stubborn to east will be a bit stubborn to clear throughout morning, clear throughout the morning, but into the afternoon, some brighter develop, but into the afternoon, some brigiter develop, but into the afternoon, some brig it will develop, but into the afternoon, some brigit will wales, develop, but into the afternoon, some brigit will wales, southwest but it will be wales, southwest england best of england that sees the best of the sunshine on sunday. Temperatures, again temperatures, though, again climbing parts climbing towards 25 c in parts of your day by. Climbing towards 25 c in parts of your day by. By of london. Enjoy your day by. By so there you are. Thats your forecast. But nathan is still with to us try and tell us why were having in october a heatwave that frankly, i expected in september , but it expected in september, but it never came. Well, actually , september was well, actually, september was one the hottest record. If one of the hottest on record. If you believe that in you can believe that average in my garden. Wasnt. It wasnt. It wasnt. No. But if you remember at the very beginning september, the very beginning of september, we spell of 30 we had that long spell of 30 degrees. Anyway, one of degrees. But anyway, so one of the summers record. The hottest summers on record. But we are now into october but yes, we are now into october and were looking at temperatures degrees temperatures of 27 degrees tomorrow. The tomorrow. That could be the hottest temperature for hottest october temperature for more than years, 2011, we more than ten years, 2011, we saw 29. 9 the 1st of october. Saw 29. 9 on the 1st of october. So this really, really so this is really, really unusual. And because unusual. And its because i was mentioning stream is mentioning the jet stream is much further north than wed expected at this time of year, which allowing warm which is allowing the warm air up from and the high up from the south and the High Pressure to build over the uk, which almost which means lovely, almost summer skies and summer like blue skies and sunshine for us, certainly for the weekend possibly the weekend and possibly into the weekend and possibly into the of week. The middle of next week. Now, what we always like, nathan, city nathan, is a city by city comparison. Example is comparison. So for example is bognor hotter than barcelona . Right. Well, ibiza at yes. Right. Well, ibiza at the moment is 26 and istanbul is 25. So we could be beating both of those. Thats crazy. Thats crazy. It is. Its absolutely i mean, its not unheard of, but its very, very unusual. And this is also countrywide. I mean, warmest temperatures mean, the warmest temperatures will stay in the south will probably stay in the south of country through the start of the country through the start of the country through the start of but its the whole of next week. But its the whole of next week. But its the whole of uk, apart from where we of the uk, apart from where we saw the rain in scotland today, which serious issue, which is a more serious issue, but still warm, but its but its still warm, but its still warm. And the whole of the uk is going lovely and uk is going to be lovely and warm which is very warm and sunny, which is very unusual for this time of year, but not to be sniffed out. I think were all happy about that. Oh, absolutely. Think a lot oh, absolutely. I think a lot of are going to the of people are going to make the very most it. Wed love to very most of it. Wed love to hear from you as to what youre going be this afternoon going to be doing this afternoon that maybe you never thought you would be an october would be doing on an october saturday. Dean saturday. Funnily enough, dean says starting says morning dean. Im starting christmas is it Christmas Shopping today. Is it too oh, too early . Oh, no. Youre getting your easter eggs next, andy says this the eggs in next, andy says this the season hotter season has gradually been hotter later over the years. Now season has gradually been hotter later mythe years. Now season has gradually been hotter later my tomatoes;. Now season has gradually been hotter later my tomatoes in now season has gradually been hotter later my tomatoes in july� season has gradually been hotter later my tomatoes in july and plant my tomatoes in july and august harvesting in august with harvesting late in october. Andy i bet you get two crops in. Yes, you could get two crops in. Be says yes, you could get two crops in. Son be says yes, you could get two crops in. Son and be says yes, you could get two crops in. Son and daughterje says yes, you could get two crops in. Son and daughter in says yes, you could get two crops in. Son and daughter in law. Our son and daughter in law bought us a pizza oven. So guess what were going to be having this evening . Ive got gordon outside it outside in outside and have it outside in the ive got gordon envy there be ive got gordon envy there be do stay with us. Up york appeals coming up a new york Appeals Court temporarily paused court has temporarily paused the dissolution trumps dissolution of Donald Trumps valuable properties while it considers his appeal in a civil fraud case stick with us. This is breakfast on gb news. Welcome back. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne and martin. The time , 6 22. And martin. The time, 6 22. A new york state appeal court has temporarily halted the dissolution of some of Donald Trumps most valuable properties. Is it weighs the former us president s appeal in a civil fraud case. Yes. And meanwhile, no matter what, everybody seems to be throwing at donald trump, his ratings up and up. And he is ratings go up and up. And he is definitely isnt he the front runner to be the republican candidate . Lets talk now to a friend of the program. We often ask his advice on these subjects because it gets ever more complicated. Of complicated. The other side of the pond, gill, who of the pond, steve gill, who of course, is a former adviser to the clinton and bush administrations. Lovely to see you again. Can you explain to us whats on with donald whats going on with donald trump . I am absolutely confused now as to how many litigations hes having to fight whilst also, as i said , appearing to be also, as i said, appearing to be such a strong front runner for the republican candidacy , a the republican candidacy, a candidacy. You guys are just candidacy. You guys are just happy that our politics are making yours seem sane and normal by comparison. Normal by comparison. So you are saying right . Its okay right now. You know, this okay right now. You know, this particular case in new york is even more bizarre. When i put on my lawyer hat, this judge ruled in what was judgement. And keep in what was judgement. And keep in what was judgement. And keep in mind that in a summary judgement, judge , there is no judgement, judge, there is no huge of any facts matter. And yet in this case, evaluate mar a lago, florida at 18. Yeah, yeah. It says yeah. Steve. Steve, steve, im so sorry, but were losing every every other word that youre speaking at the moment. So we need to sort it out. The sound, if we can. Well come back to you in a few moments and hopefully the techie people might have been able to sort things out. Meanwhile, shall we go to sport . Yeah so weve got the big day aheadin so weve got the big day ahead in rugby. And here to talk about that is chris scott. So chris, lots of home nations interest in this talks with the action. Yeah i mean this is this is the time of the world cup when it really starts getting interesting. You know, the problem with the Rugby World Cup is always get the same is that you always get the same teams in the final stages, really. But yeah , were really. But yeah, were expecting england and wales definitely through big talking point today is can scotland squeeze through in a really , squeeze through in a really, really tough group because theyve had south africa and ireland and thats really unfair. Really. Its just the way the cookie crumbles in terms of draw. But should scotland of the draw. But should scotland beat ireland today and they do it a bonus point or they it with a bonus point or they dont let ireland get a losing bonus point . That sounds very technical, but if you if you lose by less than seven, you get an extra point. But basically, if scotland win today , it looks if scotland win today, it looks like they might squeeze through, which would be a sensational achievement by them and the south africans are grumbling about this, arent they . South africans are grumbling abo because irent they . South africans are grumbling abo because because y . Because because they say technically might be possible technically it might be possible if the Scotland Ireland result fell in a certain way, they they could be squeezed, that allegations of match fixing. But listen, you know, they lost to ireland. So, you know , lost to ireland. So, you know, if that happens, so be it. But i mean that would that would be an unusual turn of events. Think unusual turn of events. I think if africans were to go if the south africans were to go out, mean, listen, all things out, i mean, listen, all things being equal, ireland have beaten scotland times in row scotland eight times in a row and theyve won 16 successive International Rugby matches. And International Rugby matches. And they the best team in the they are the best team in the world. Messed it up in world. Theyve messed it up in the in Rugby World Cups. The past in Rugby World Cups. Ive got a feeling theyll ive got a feeling that theyll do it this time. They are by far and away. I think the best side at the minute. England and wales, meanwhile, are going to be winning their fourth games in a row at the group stage. But you know, all things being equal , theyre probably not going to get the semi final because get past the semi final because the teams on the other side of the teams on the other side of the france, who won last the draw, france, who won last night, new zealand night, south africa, new zealand and that little bit and ireland are that little bit better. So, you know, thats were going to talk about that about about 8 20. I think weve got guests who got some guests from who have been there and weve got warm the badge and know what it is to be hit by a ten tonne truck to give us can i ask a really probably a very ignorant question, but i dont know an awful lot about rugby. You know, the kevin but you know, the kevin keegan controversy about saying he hear female he doesnt want to hear female commentators talking about the mens match is that the same in rugby . Are there any female rugby . Yes, there are. I mean there commentate on mens matches. Yes there are, yeah. Yeah. Itv use there are, yeah. Yeah. Itv use use female pundits. I mean, kevin, i think in in his defence did say that he he likes female presenters but didnt like pundits who havent played in the mens game. That was his the mens game. That was his point i think. But nonetheless it was a, it was a bit awkward and you know, i know kevin, i remember as as i worked with him when he was the england football coach, he speaks very openly and very candidly. But but yeah, its they do. Yes. In the answer to your question. And they do a lot of people like him for it though. And a lot of people agree with him and a lot of people think he has a fair point. If youre going to commentate on on sports at an elite level, it helps to have experience it yourself back to the rugby, the first, between first, first big game between ireland south africa. A lot ireland and south africa. A lot of people were saying that the winner that was likely winner of that was most likely going to win the whole tournament. Money on tournament. Whos your money on tournament. Whos your money on to lift the cup . I think ireland will win it. Yeah, they have yeah, but you know, they have fallen every time they were fallen every time when they were supposed do better and supposed to do much better and theyve theyve got theyve got theyve got a knockout game today before we even quarterfinals. Even get to the quarterfinals. Theyve knockout game theyve got a knockout game against scotland that might take its toll. Well, well see its toll. Well, but well see france getting through last night, they beat italy by 60 points seven. So theyve won points to seven. So theyve won their games. England their four group games. England will do same today. Wales do will do the same today. Wales do the same. Got samoa and the same. Theyve got samoa and georgia. But, you know, as i say , i mean all the big all the big nafions , i mean all the big all the big nations start lining up now for the, for the quarterfinals next week. And it its, its pretty brutal. Week. And it its, its pretty brutal. The Rugby World Cup, the brutal. The Rugby World Cup, the standards getting high brutal. The Rugby World Cup, the stancthe; getting high brutal. The Rugby World Cup, the stancthe fitness� tting high brutal. The Rugby World Cup, the stancthe fitness levels high brutal. The Rugby World Cup, the stancthe fitness levels and|h brutal. The Rugby World Cup, the stancthe fitness levels and the now, the fitness levels and the power of the hits if youve seen the injuries to players its pretty brutal stuff and that makes it theres something about rugby which really does stir the blood at international level, doesnt it . I mean , of both sexes. Indeed. Indeed. Chris good indeed. Indeed. Chris good a superlative. Well well look fonnard to that big heads up debate later on. Indeed. Indeed indeed. Indeed right now, its 6 28. This is breakfast on gb news with anne and martin. Our headlines today after the labour party heralded yesterdays success in the by election as seismic. Thats the one in scotland. Of course, were asking is Scottish Independence now a thing of the past . And have you noticed its turned much warmer recently . Apparently we are experiencing an unusual blast of warm october weather. The big question, though, is how long will it last . And a new york Appeals Court temporarily halted Donald Trumps property dissolution amid his civil fraud case appeal all. And coming up, well take a look back on Suella Braverman anns speech this week. Controversy one on immigration dunng controversy one on immigration during the conservative Party Conference in. Manchester and conference in. Manchester and coming up , conference in. Manchester and coming up, councils, universities and Police Forces have developed mail, menopause. The menopause policies. Has the world gone stark raving mad . Well be talking that next in headune well be talking that next in headline makers. This is gb news. Welcome back. This is breakfast on gb news with me and martin. Now, just a few minutes ago, we were trying to figure out whats going on across the other side of the atlantic with the latest news on donald trump, because we hear. Well, no, i tell you what. Lets go to steve gill. See if we can re establish communication with steve gill, former adviser to the clinton and administrations. And and bush administrations. And sorry that, steve. We sorry about that, steve. We obviously techie problems obviously had techie problems there, could you explain in there, but could you explain in words of hopefully only one syllable what on earth is going on with donald trump at the moment and why, no matter how much legal stuff is thrown at him, he is still such a frontrunner in whats going to be the president ial race. Yeah my communications was as chaotic as this court case is. You know , the bottom line is you know, the bottom line is trump is extremely popular and every time they put another legal case against him, his popularity goes up. I think this particular case in new york is even more bizarre than most of them. In this case, the judge took a motion for summary judgement, which means that there no dispute of fact that there is no dispute of fact that is significant. And yet the court is disputing whether or not the mar a lago estate is worth 18 million, which is ridiculous , or more like 5 or ridiculous, or more like 5 or 700 million, which is more accurate. And the court just ignored that. And did its own ruling. And now youve got a court of appeals that has said that the court moving right to the judgement phase that theyre going to take away trumps ability to do business in new york is premature as well. So i think again , you have a partisan think again, you have a partisan judge, a partisan , an da, and judge, a partisan, an da, and the American People are seeing through this. And thats why his popularity goes up every time he gets from these gets another hit from these politically motivated cases. Steve, theres an and steve, theres an extraordinary outburst earlier this week when donald trump lost the plot in new york and when he basically said the entire legal system is corrupt and against him. This is politically motivated. It should be out there in ohio, in nashville , there in ohio, in nashville, campaigning for this first wave. And instead, hes intimating the entire system is rigged against him. It seems to be playing well with his base, though. Well, and keep in mind that each of these cases are in what we call dark blue states. You we call dark blue states. You know, theyre in new york city. Theyre in washington, dc. Theyre in washington, dc. Theyre in washington, dc. Theyre in places where trump lost with 90 of the vote going against him. So i think theres an argument that theyre not only playing these partisan democrat das against democrat judges and das against him, but theyre putting them in cases and places theres cases and places where theres really not a chance for a fair trial. And i think when youre a pubuc trial. And i think when youre a public figure as visible as he or people on the other side of the aisle as well, it would be hard find somebody that could hard to find somebody that could give fair trial who didnt hard to find somebody that could give in|irtrial who didnt hard to find somebody that could give in with al who didnt hard to find somebody that could give in with a who didnt hard to find somebody that could give in with a prejudgedt hard to find somebody that could give in with a prejudged notion come in with a prejudged notion about how they felt about donald trump other top trump or any of the other top political figures this political figures in this country now. Country right now. Steve, another and steve, another extraordinary moment this week, a seeming u turn from the Biden Administration saying that they now plan to build the wall. And Donald Trumps idea , yeah, they Donald Trumps idea, yeah, they were for it before they were against it. And now theyre for it. Against yeah. Again, its crazy. And i dont know how thats going to play politically there now trying to take a completely different tack to build a wall they promised they wouldnt build one inch of wall and now theyre trying to have the secretary of Homeland Security aukus say we need the wall. While biden says it wont work again, it is a complete, muddled mess. But the bigger issue is we got 18 to 20 million illegals that have flooded across our border, are filling our big cities and nobody knows what to do it. Building a wall do about it. Building a wall will not remove ones who are will not remove the ones who are already illegally and already here illegally and thats the big problem. Thats the big problem. Its incredible, isnt it . We started this interview with started off this interview with you that your politics you saying that your politics almost makes ours look natural and normal, but weve all got the same problems actually, havent we . Yeah. And nobodys listening to the people youve got joe biden talking about issues that dont have any impact on the on the working class americans. Hes claiming biden works while inflation in our country is raising the price of bread and milk and gasoline. Hes claiming that hes the law and order president. While our big cities president. While our big cities are devolving into chaos and crime and is claiming that the border is closed while our own eyes can tell us millions are continuing to come across what theyre saying in the Biden Administration doesnt fit what americans are feeling and seeing. I think thats one of the reasons why hes lagging so badly in the polls, even against a candidate like donald a wounded candidate like donald trump. Talk to you, steve. Great to talk to you, steve. Thanks very much for trying to make sense of it for us. Make some sense of it for us. Thank you. Its absolutely fascinating, i and wherever stand i think. And wherever you stand on politics of this, on the politics of this, its going be hell of an going to be one hell of an election to watch. Its going to be worlds greatest circus. Be the worlds greatest circus. Well ours first, yeah, well have ours first, wont then wont we . I think. And then theres. Yes, it will come after you. One long circus. Okay at 637, lets move on and take a look at the front pages of the newspapers this morning. And after its victory in the rutherglen by election, the i reports of labours plan to solve the uks housing crisis by building new towns and taxing developers and the new homes plan also go on the front page there of the guardian on labour policies also make the top story in the times , with the shadow in the times, with the Shadow Health secretary wes streeting, saying that the nhs must modernise or die. Modernise or die. And this is one you like, dont you . Menopause is madness. Its the headline on the front page of the mail. Reporter quite seriously that dozens of public bodies and universities have what is called male menopause policies. Policies. Wait till they hear about the man flu and the death of the wife of former Manchester United football manager. Sir Alex Ferguson is a lead story in the star. So theres lots to talk about. Joining us to go through some of those headlines, gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson and his wife , nigel nelson and his wife, former conservative. I cant believe i said that. And former believe i said that. And former conservative adviser claire pearsall. You could have said his former wives to be worse. They happen to be married. Well, thats true. Yes. Okay, look, nigel, lets start with you then. And in the guardian. Keir starmer are sort of talking about his new homes pledge. Yes. This is i mean, this is a big week for labour coming up, so. So the labour Conference Begins in liverpool tomorrow. Angela in liverpool tomorrow. Angela rayner will kick it off with her new brief as levelling up secretary shadow levelling up, levelling up secretary and. And shes talking about homes at the moment so the idea this is going to be i think this is going to be a conference absolutely chockablock with policy and theyre gradually going to start leaking them over the next leaking them out over the next couple days. So this one is couple of days. So this one is that the tories had a target, 300,000 new homes, and they havent met the target. Labour is saying that will be their benchmark. Thats the target that they are heading for. How are they going to fund it . Well, its not so much funding. It is actually getting through the through the through the planning wrong. The problems of planning wrong. And developers. So you have and also developers. So you have a situation where developers are land banking, getting hold of land banking, getting hold of land , hanging onto it, waiting land, hanging onto it, waiting for prices to go up. So the issue really is to get the developers to actually develop the properties. Theyre meant the properties. Theyre meant theyre meant to also ease planning rules. So it all happens much quicker. The detail of that, one would hope, will actually be explained at the labour conference. Arent they looking at what theyre calling the Golden Triangle between oxford, cambridge and london . Hm. I think theyre looking across the country. Well, i heard its only country. Well, i heard its only because i live near oxford. I was thinking oxford. I was thinking oxford. I was thinking oxford. An awful cambridge. Theres an awful lot belt yes. Lot of green belt there. Yes. And theres going to be an awful lot of people say, oh, yes, lot of people who say, oh, yes, we affordable homes, we need affordable homes, but not there. Wonder, clare, if this and i wonder, clare, if this is the labour party have is part the labour party have never got over the fact that thatcher sold off council houses. Theyve been banging on about decades. Is this, about that for decades. Is this, do think, sort of do you think, a sort of reinvention the reinvention of labour as the party of social housing sounds great on paper , it sounds great great on paper, it sounds great on paper. Scrapping planning rules sounds great on paper , rules sounds great on paper, taxing the property developers. But can any of this actually happen . Well i mean that thats where the detail needs to come in because having sat a local in because having sat on a local authority for eight years, planning is the most contentious issue that will ever have to issue that you will ever have to deal with. People do want and yes, people do want affordable they want more affordable homes. They want more houses. But nowhere near them. And this is your problem is that you try and relax. And this is your problem is that you try and relax. Planning rules. Communities will go rules. Local communities will go up against you. So im not sure how theyre going to square that off. And what kind of properties theyre going to build. And the areas that looking at areas that theyre looking at building beautiful building in are beautiful green spaces. There be areas spaces. There may well be areas of outstanding Natural Beauty nearby, cannot just nearby, and you cannot just roughshod , you know, ride roughshod, you know, ride roughshod, you know, ride roughshod over these kind of rules. Think its really rules. So i think its really interesting that labour have brought because the brought up housing because the conservatives the past conservatives in the week past didnt mention it, which i think is a mistake. Its one of is a real mistake. Its one of these issues which younger people will absolutely only want to hear more detail on, and it really is a vote winner in that respect. And its a proper grassroots laboun yes, it is. Yes, it is. I mean, one of the things the worries about the green belt, one of the things that will have to happen is how you designate green belt. Keir starmer green belt. So keir starmer discovered that there was a car park in maidstone , which was park in maidstone, which was which was designated a green belt. But while the School Playing Fields nearby werent. So in other words , you couldnt so in other words, you couldnt build on the car park, but you could build on the playing field, on the playing fields. So its a matter of actually sorting out the rules. But the fascinating thing about people want about this is that people want to live where the work is. They want to in cities. They want to live in cities. They to live on they dont want to live on brownfield they brownfield sites. They dont want to in the middle of want to live in the middle of nowhere. Idea new towns nowhere. This idea of new towns keeps up and theyre keeps coming up and theyre putting front centre, putting this front and centre, new very ambitious. New towns, very, very ambitious. But without the jobs, without the infrastructure, time, the infrastructure, its time, the infrastructure, its time, the time hes also talked about building them near lines building them near Railway Lines , doesnt he . Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. These things that mean, all these things that i mean, this is interesting. He he comes up with if he if he comes up with some detail makes. Yes some detail that makes. Yes the key thing is that i mean the key thing is that what weve lacked from labour all the way through is we dont what weve lacked from labour all theway through is we dont what weve lacked from labour all the detail,ough is we dont what weve lacked from labour all the detail, we h is we dont what weve lacked from labour all the detail, we get we dont what weve lacked from labour all the detail, we get a e dont what weve lacked from labour all the detail, we get a rought get the detail, we get a rough idea of what policy is going to be, but we dont get the detail about theyre going carry about how theyre going to carry it this be the last it out. Yeah, this be the last conference before the next election. Likely to be last election. Likely to be the last conference before the next election. Going do election. What hes going to do is tell us how hes is actually tell us how hes going to things. Its not going to do things. Its not good my good enough to say, oh, my ambition is to do this, this and this. Whats your gut feeling . Do you he will . You think he will . Yes, i do. Yeah. Because i think is the time. Now think that now is the time. Now is the time that hes been he was gradually changing the labour was setting up labour party. He was setting up new now hes got to new ideas. Now hes got to explain in detail how theyll be carried out. The era fence sitting has the era of fence sitting has to mcfadden us to end. Pat mcfadden told us yesterday expect a policy yesterday he did expect a policy rich stop flashing rich conference stop flashing your how are you your garter. Why . How are you going to make us jump into bed with you, so to speak . Keir starmer because its we starmer because its like we need see some need to see some firm. And interestingly, it was Alastair Campbell people Alastair Campbell and people like and other like that mandelson and other others saying the others were saying now is the time to come out with real policies, even if it means you will attacked them. Will be attacked for them. Mean, the point that yes. I mean, the point that they making, was they were making, there was a very good piece that the guardian yesterday about very good piece that the guar the yesterday about very good piece that the guar the pointesterday about very good piece that the guar the point thatday about very good piece that the guar the point that the about very good piece that the guar the point that the these this. The point that the these are characters who were are all the characters who were around in 1996. And if you like this year the repeat of 1996, this year is the repeat of 1996, before the landslide in 1997. Well, and you think, well, is it or do well, at the moment it looks like a landslide. Yes. So what they were saying was that starmer is actually proving himself to be competent. Now the trick is to also prove he is radical, which of course, tony blair was. Blair was. Final word on this, claire, before we move on to the much more important topic of the manner, does all this manner, pause, does all this kind of sabre rattling by the likes of campbell and mandelson actually start to make people think, no. Is blairjust think, well, no. Is blairjust another tone . Is starmer a tony blair another tone . Is starmer a tony blaand i think thats the and i think thats the problem. The Tony Blair Institute is in the institute is there in the background. It is working really hard. When you have the hard. And when you have the names mandelson and campbell names of mandelson and campbell coming the i coming back into the mix, i think people going to think some people are going to be worried about it. Miliband as well. And David Miliband as well. He speaking yesterday he was speaking yesterday and i think your problem he was speaking yesterday and i think people|r problem he was speaking yesterday and i think people wanted em he was speaking yesterday and i think people wanted a labour because people wanted a labour party that was different. They wanted something new and it incumbent upon the it is now incumbent upon the labour party out there labour party to put out there these policy ideas properly fleshed out because suddenly being were not the conservative party isnt going to be enough to get them past the post. Absolutely. Absolutely. So its going to be its to going be an interesting conference. Its going to be you know, we need to see some detail long may it continue. Right. Been it continue. Right. Ive been banging on about oh, hang on. Lets do the headlines first and then we can give the menopause as the sort of breathing that it needs. Breathing time that it needs. Needs. That it needs. That it needs. Yeah, it is just coming up to a quarter to seven. A reminder of our top stories this morning. And now the labour party heralded in and now the labour party hereby election in and now the labour party hereby election scotland in seismic. Today were asking a Scottish Independence facing its own earthquake. Be debating earthquake. Well be debating that hour. And then that in this next hour. And then , of have you noticed , of course, have you noticed that has turned much warmer recently . Apparently, we are experiencing an unusual blast of warm october weather. How long will it last . Well give you all the details. The details. And coming up, well look back on Suella Bravermans controversial speech on immigration during the conservative Party Conference this week in. Manchester this week in. Manchester so back to our headline makers, nigel and claire and claire. Tell us about the front page. I claire. Tell us about the front page. I think it is of the daily mail and its all about menopause madness, which is absolute madness. I have to say. This is dozens of councils, university Police Forces and Fire Services have designated that there can be a male menopause and therefore for male menopause and therefore for male employees will be given Flexible Working rights. They can be allowed 12 months off on full pay because they experience worse symptoms of the menopause. Now, i have quite a big issue with this. I think this is absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. I think youre curled lip and voice like a cheese grater. Gave it away. Yeah, go on. Do you think so . I feel quite strongly about this. This is not something that men will suffer from. Men might suffer from a midlife crisis. They might go midlife crisis. They might go and buy a sports car or a leather jacket. And buy a sports car or a leatherjacket. Go and do something dangerous for fun. But they dont suffer the kind of physical symptoms that women will do. And im getting the look from that end of the table. I could feel it here and i will put it out there that this is something women suffer. This is a womans condition. Yes. And we have fought long and hard to have fought long and hard to have it recognised. We have fought long and hard to get the right treatments for it, which are coming through. Are still not coming through. There hrt shortages across there are hrt shortages across the the government the country. The government cannot right and then cannot get this right and then suddenly were going to introduce men who might just feel little upset when theyre. Can i just ask you because obviously youve read right through piece and talked through that piece and talked about before, is the word about it before, is the word menopause something that the daily mail other headline daily mail and other headline writers up with or or writers are coming up with or or are these particular institutions recognising that word menopause . Theyre not necessarily recognise using the word. I do think this is something that has been created for us, but theyre not backing down on it either. So what you find is that the daily mail will come up with menopause and these institutions will take it over. Theyre will take it over. Theyre calling it the male menopause. Calling it the male menopause. Yeah, which isnt a thing, but it isnt a thing. No, it isnt. No, it isnt. And this is why you have to menstruate stop menstruate and then stop menstruating. Menstruating. Thats what causes many and thats what causes many of the problems women of the problems for women happens. Men dont do that. Exactly. So they might have problems. The case for men, problems. The case for men, nigel, i totally agree. I think the word menopause is ridiculous. It debases the issue and it tries to infer that men have a place in womens health, which is, i think , unfair. But. Which is, i think, unfair. But. Nigel well , men do go through nigel well, men do go through certain changes and they do have certain changes and they do have certain issues. And i think this sort aslef undermines all that. And the point the point is bringing some common sense into this whole male menopause this whole thing. Male menopause is the wrong description for it. And its absolutely right that that of demeans women. And that sort of demeans women. And i can understand why claire is so angry about this. She should sit you in the car on the way up. But the whole thing is that if the answer is check the if you the answer is check the nhs website because they have a really good explanation for this. After the age of about this. But after the age of about 30 40, mens testosterone 30 to 40, mens testosterone levels begin to go down about 1 a year and that that can cause a number of symptoms. Depression, number of symptoms. Depression, it can cause hot flushes as it can cause anxiety. Obe it can can cause anxiety. Obe it can cause lack of libido, handles mood swings. Sorry, love handles mood swings. Sorry, love handles moods and all those things. Yeah. So. So there is a change in men. It doesnt affect all men. Something like a quarter of the most. 1 in 10, probably. But there are these changes. The issue there is not to actually say this is a menopause. It also is not an instant thing. It goes on for many years. But if you have those symptoms, it is quite right that employer should have policies in place to actually treat them. So like if you were suffering depression normally that the employer would would try and help you out, deal with and deal with that. So its the and deal with that. So its the headune and deal with that. So its the headline thats wrong here. Yes. Dont call it male menopause , dont call it male menopause, cause, i mean, the best description is age related, low, low testosterone. But it is sort low testosterone. But it is sort of not. But what upsets me is whether these institutions are calling it male menopause because they shouldnt be, should they . Yes. I dont think they are. Yes. I dont think they are. But i think they are. And this is the point. They do have guidance internally that states that these menopause that these are male menopause symptoms of the symptoms symptoms and all of the symptoms that youve described there. And the 1 drop in testosterone is not enough to make a material difference to a man. It isnt difference to a man. It isnt enough. Women go through such violent changes realistically with their hormone levels, make a material difference. To some men, this is the whole point. But scientists themselves say that the drop of this 1 that the drop off of this 1 isnt enough to actually make it into a condition. It is into a condition. It is something that naturally happens and men can still father children into their 70s and 80s, whereas women have that cut off point. So it isnt it isnt the same. This is a lengthy process which i think is just known as age ing. Yeah. Well, i was going to say, yeah, age really gets you in the end, doesnt it . No matter what gender you might be. Id like to see them go further and legally and medically recognise man flu. But anyway, just. Anyway, thats just. Thats you. Oh yes, thats just you. Yeah. Lets move on to something thatis yeah. Lets move on to something that is really causing a stir at the moment and thats bedbugs. Yeah. Panic is said to be yeah. Panic is said to be sweeping paris and other french cities as infestations. What a horrible word of bedbugs have soared in recent weeks and there are fears that the uk could be the next target. And it is quite frightening when you think about it. Lets bnngin when you think about it. Lets bring in robert friars, whos founder of spot, which is a Company Technology to company that uses technology to fight infestations, fight bug infestations, infestations. Robert, very good infestations. Robert, very good morning to you. Bedbugs how can you help us fight them . You help us fight them . Well, my Company Makes an eye monitor. Ive actually got one here. It looks like this. And this tucks underneath a bed or in the train carriage or anywhere else. Hospital, bed, anywhere. You might have a problem with bedbugs. And it problem with bedbugs. And it then reports in real time and sends an email to the person who needs to know about it. And thats really key because vigilance is solution to bedbugs. How does it spot the bedbugs . How does it spot the bedbugs . Does it does it take the bedbug to crawl all over it or what . So theres a pheromone that attracts them inside. And then once theyre inside, our system identifies it and can tell whether its a bedbug or whether its Something Else. Okay. Theres a lot of people at home having their cup of tea and slice of toast scratching their arms listening to this. And im kind of one them. So and im kind of one of them. So tell us, how is this a phenomenon . How are these bedbugs were bedbugs getting here . Were blaming , but how are they blaming france, but how are they getting there . Come on. The eurostar, come in via eurostar, they come in via dinghies. Just to be dinghies. Well just to be absolutely clear, this is its not actually frances fault. Not actually frances fault. So bedbugs have been around in our cities, in our homes, in our towns since prehistory. And our towns since prehistory. And they have been an ongoing problem for decades. And it really started growing in the late 90s with the growing resistance to insecticide. They resistance to insecticide. They move around, they hitchhike , move around, they hitchhike, they move around on peoples bags, on peoples clothes. So if youre travelling, if youre on the underground, if youre on the underground, if youre on the in paris, its quite the metro in paris, its quite easy to pick them up end up easy to pick them up and end up taking them home or taking them to hotel. Youre going to. To the hotel. Youre going to. And get there they and then they get there and they can start spreading. So its very, difficult to control very, very difficult to control the of them. And the the spread of them. And the solution really is having systems place monitor systems in place to monitor continuously that you catch continuously so that you catch at possible. We had at its earliest possible. We had at its earliest possible. We had a couple quiet years during a couple of quiet years during covid when no was covid when no one was travelling, that that travelling, and that meant that the populations drop away. The populations did drop away. But this because weve had but this year, because weve had a tourist season in in a fantastic tourist season in in london and in paris, theyve come back with a of a come back with a bit of a vengeance this year. Leave it okay, well, well leave it there it is one of those there because it is one of those issues that i know people are waking having first waking up and having their first Coffee Morning or coffee of the morning or whatever, but its really good to know that people all such as yourself, working on yourself, are working on it. Goodness. Nigel thank goodness. Nigel and claire, its. Its all horrible, claire, its. Its all horrible, isnt just to think big, isnt it . Just to think big, arent they . I mean, i didnt realise they were i mean, i didnt realise they werapparently theyre the size apparently theyre the size of an pip. Of an apple pip. Yeah. Yeah. Which is big enough. Which is big. Yeah, yeah, yeah, is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. You the creeps . Does it give you the creeps . Does it give you the creeps . Really does. It. It it really does. It. It really. You sort of sit there in itching and horrible, the itching and its horrible, the fact can hitchhike. It fact that they can hitchhike. It was that word hitchhike. So they can bag, into your can go into your bag, into your case on your clothing, train seats and travel around with you. And theyre migrants , arent and theyre migrants, arent they . I mean, Suella Braverman could send them to rwanda. Yeah. Yeah yeah. Yeah its interesting about staying in hotels. I once did an staying in hotels. I once did an article for the Sun Newspaper. I stayed britains worst hotels stayed in britains worst hotels for a and assignment. For a feature and assignment. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. And i yeah. And i told yeah. And i told you yeah. And i told you i yeah. And i told you i went to bed. I went out into town. I bought a sheet, and i pulled it around my neck. And i was so scared about going to sleep because of the state of the m attress. Yeah. Yeah. I felt like wearing and i felt like wearing a body condom or something. You know what is interesting is the prevalent the in prevalent at the moment in paris. Yeah. And nobody quite knows whether to clear whether theyll be able to clear up problem by the time of up the problem by the time of the olympics. Up the problem by the time of the yeah,pics. Up the problem by the time of the yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Everybodys to going go where everybodys to going go and stay in hotels. French are terribly and the french are terribly worried that the more publicity this gets, people want to this gets, people wont want to go there on holiday go over there on holiday or anything the anything like that. At the moment. Thinking, maybe anything like that. At the monlets thinking, maybe anything like that. At the monlets try thinking, maybe anything like that. At the monlets try and thinking, maybe anything like that. At the monlets try and g0|inking, maybe anything like that. At the monlets try and go somewherebe not. Lets try and go somewhere else like rome or something. Have been by a have you been chased by by a crowd bedbugs . It might make crowd of bedbugs . It might make the olympic run a bit faster. And course, then you and of course, then you always are are we in always wonder, are we are we in the the press playing it the media, the press playing it up of just trying up to the level of just trying to everybody . Yeah. To frighten everybody . Yeah. Do you think . What do you think . What do you think . You never does that. I mean, you never does that. I mean, you never does that. I mean, i think its no, i mean, i think its worth always being aware of these things, but when you see pictures in newspapers of these bugs see size of bugs and you see the size of them, like footage that them, like the footage that weve seen, i do wonder if weve just seen, i do wonder if weve just seen, i do wonder if we perhaps taking it out of we are perhaps taking it out of proportion. But do think proportion. But i do think people aware of this. People need to be aware of this. But me laugh that but it just makes me laugh that we shouldnt blame the french. But you know, naturally well be checking our bed when we get home. Yeah. Yeah. And if youre listening on the radio, dont how and if youre listening on the rayou dont how and if youre listening on the rayou are dont how and if youre listening on the rayou are because how and if youre listening on the rayou are because youlow and if youre listening on the rayou are because you cant lucky you are because you cant see these pictures. You dont want to see them. See these pictures. Bedbugst want to see them. See these pictures. Bedbugs scuttling see them. See these pictures. Bedbugs scuttling around m. See these pictures. Bedbugs scuttling around on trains, waiting to jump onto your shoulders. Trains, waiting to jump onto youi shoulders. Trains, waiting to jump onto youi thinkders. Trains, waiting to jump onto you think weve just got to i think weve just got to keep sense of proportion or keep a sense of proportion or were to frighten were just to going frighten ourselves death. Yeah. Dont ourselves to death. Yeah. Dont you mm. Mm. Mm. Thank you very much for okay. Thank you very much for the moment. And clare, the moment. Nigel and clare, lets find out about all lets find out about this all importantthere. Very good hello there. Very good morning im jonathan morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey your latest gb news vautrey with your latest gb news weather by the Weather Forecast provided by the met office. Certainly a different day those different feeling day for those in north those in the in the north to those in the south, High Pressure is pushing in europe, in from continental europe, importing heat for southern areas. Trailing frontal areas. But this trailing frontal system is going to be providing very heavy and persistent rain across much of scotland throughout is an throughout the day. There is an amber warning in force amber weather warning in force with flooding and disruption to transport likely in place is the potential for a months worth of rainfall to fall in some locations may even lead to some shallow landslides. So do take shallow landslides. So do take care for northern ireland. Wales and england are largely dry. Day some hazy sunshine around at times , temperatures climbing times, temperatures climbing towards 23 c in the southeast, where normally be around 16 where wed normally be around 16 degrees at this time of the yean degrees at this time of the year. The rain will continue, though, as though, across scotland as we head night. Though, across scotland as we head night. Again, some head over night. Again, some heavy pulses around times. Heavy pulses around at times. Other areas generally staying dry. Start see some dry. But well start to see some cloud into eastern areas cloud push into eastern areas of england turning a england overnight. Turning a little bit murkier here. Most of us, seen temperatures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up seen temperatures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up around en temperatures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up around en te|13 c. Itures little bit murkier here. Most of us, up around en te|13 c. Soes hot up around 12 to 13 c. So a fairly mild start to sunday. The rain across scotland will gradually push its way northwards during the day on sunday. Still some heavy pulses for aberdeenshire. The highlands to begin with, and then eventually into the Northern Isles later on the cloud on the east will be a bit stubborn to clear throughout the morning, but afternoon but into the afternoon some brighter develop. But into the afternoon some brig iter develop. But into the afternoon some brig it will develop. But into the afternoon some brig it will be develop. But into the afternoon some brig it will be wales develop. But into the afternoon some brig it will be wales southwest but it will be wales southwest england best of england that sees the best of the on sunday. The sunshine on sunday. Temperatures, again temperatures, though, again climbing towards 25 c in parts of your by by of london. Enjoy your day by by jonathan thanks very much indeed. Good news for some very, very wet weather for scotland particularly. And the north of england. But we are going to have an october heatwave for quite a few days. So if youre in an area where we should get some sun, what are you going to be doing today that you werent planning on doing in october . Wed love good morning. Its 7 00 on good morning. Its 7 00 on saturday. The 7th of october. Today have you noticed that its turned much warmer recently . Apparently were experiencing an unusual blast of warm october weather. Theyre calling it a heat wave, but how long will it last . Last . And if the labour party heralded yesterdays success in the by election in scotland as seismic. Today we are asking, is seismic. Today we are asking, is there still a chance for Scottish Independence because major issues to sort out than independence . Independence . I think it stayed well. Ive not heard much about it now. It not heard much about it now. It used to be all over the news, but you dont hear it now. And looking back at other Amazing Things that have happened week, well look happened this week, well look at Suella Braverman speech on immigration during the tory Party Conference. And of course, jonathan has that all important weather. Some of us will be seeing some very warm sunshine today for others, though, theres heavy, persistent rainfall in the forecast. So do join me later for all the details of what you expect. What you can expect. Well be trying to make some sense of this apparent october heatwave. Good morning. Its heatwave. Good morning. Its nice to be with you. Im anne diamond. Daubney diamond. Im Martin Daubney and this breakfast on. This is breakfast on. Gb news. Gosh , ian, cal and reggie. Gosh, ian, cal and reggie. Gosh, ian, cal and reggie. Good morning. They say our day consists of breakfast in bed. Bacon and mushroom sandwich waiting for it to get light. Then out in the garden to get it tidy and ready for my favourite finns bar to open this afternoon. So i looked at what finns bar is for those who dont know, its an its an independent restaurant chain with views overlooking sea with lovely overlooking the sea with lovely kind of gullies and troughs over the beach. Im getting im the beach. Im getting im getting lifestyle envy. Yes, absolutely. But we may yes, absolutely. But we may have a chance to get out the barbecues today and maybe for the next few days, depending on where you live, really. And he says, i remember back in october 2011, the first week was roasting. I was sunbathing in roasting. I was sunbathing in the back garden and i had to start a new job that week. And my first day was sweltering. My first day was sweltering. And lets not gloat too much about the great weather because of course its not great for everybody. And caroline, carol, beg your pardon says this. We have had dreadful wet have weve had a dreadful wet week i live in north week where i live in North Yorkshire. Miserable, soggy dog walks, very envious watching your wonderful sunshine. Well, your wonderful sunshine. Well, well find out south. Well find out in a minute if the sun might get anywhere near North Yorkshire. Melissa is in spain. Shes in almeria. She says its still 32 degrees today. So were going to be going in the pool. Its a fantasy tastic part of the world down there now. Maria, beautiful. Maria, beautiful. As long as youve got a pool nearby. Okay, so lets talk about this apparent heatwave , about this apparent heatwave, because sort of put the because you can sort of put the brakes on winter at the moment. Were yet. Were going were not there yet. Were going to enjoy, apparently temperatures of Something Like 22 degrees for the next five days. Fantastic temperatures today could reach 25 degrees and up to 27 degrees tomorrow on sunday, making it unseasonably and unusually warm for an october. Yeah, well, lets make some sense of it then and see whats happening. All around the country. Weather journalist nathan rao joins us. Hello nathan. Hello. Good. Like said , i think we good. Like i said, i think we probably ought to start with the north. Yes. Because theyre going to get theyre be deluged get theyre going to be deluged with arent they . Get theyre going to be deluged witiabsolutely. T they . Get theyre going to be deluged witiabsolutely. There . Get theyre going to be deluged witiabsolutely. There is met absolutely. There is met office. Met office office. There are two met Office Warnings place across warnings out in place across pretty the whole of pretty much the whole of scotland , and that is for scotland today, and that is for up seven inches of rain in up to seven inches of rain in the worst regions is an the worst hit regions is an amber warning in that region and amber warning in that region and a warning widely, a yellow warning more widely, this where the this is because thats where the jet sitting the jet stream is sitting at the moment and thats where the contrast between the and contrast between the cold and the air is. And thats the warm air is. And thats where youre going get where youre going to get this sort causing the sort of battleground causing the intense deluges. So want to watch out there possible watch out for out there possible damage travel damage to buildings, travel disruptions, yeah. Disruptions, certainly. Yeah. That trains theyre warning that trains will have to halted. Will probably have to be halted. I mean, yeah, absolutely. I mean, some very intense some very, very intense downpours short period downpours in a short period of time there. So one to watch time up there. So one to watch out and very different out for and very, very different from the country, from the rest of the country, which going enjoying which is going to be enjoying summers return. We can call summers return. And we can call it an indian summer. Okay. So just to address carol, whos north carol, whos up in North Yorkshire, any chance carol, whos up in north yorksigoing any chance carol, whos up in north yorksigoing to any chance carol, whos up in north yorksigoing to get any chance carol, whos up in north yorksigoing to get sunshine . shes going to get sunshine . Yes, can look fonnard yes, carol can look fonnard to sunshine because this to some sunshine because this hot weather, the High Pressure thats going thats causing this is going right country. So the right across the country. So the south is going to get the warmest temperatures. South is going to get the warn always temperatures. South is going to get the warn always happens eratures. South is going to get the warn always happens when as. South is going to get the warn always happens when we get this always happens when we get warm air coming the warm air coming up from the south. But really all of uk south. But really all of the uk is be warm apart from is going to be warm apart from scotland the very north over scotland and the very north over the days. 27 degrees is the next two days. 27 degrees is possibly highest temperature possibly the highest temperature well is well get tomorrow, which is very, unusual because the very, very unusual because the average time of is average for this time of year is about ten degrees. Well, of course the question be course the big question will be how unusual is it . And he says he remembers an october 2011. Was like october 2011. It was just like this. But of course, when the weathers this, days, weathers like this, these days, everyone god, you everyone goes, oh, my god, you know, Climate Change. The everyone goes, oh, my god, you kn0\of Climate Change. The everyone goes, oh, my god, you kn0\of the limate change. The everyone goes, oh, my god, you kn0\of the world change. The everyone goes, oh, my god, you kn0\of the world is hange. The everyone goes, oh, my god, you kn0\of the world is night. The everyone goes, oh, my god, you kn0\of the world is nigh. Yeah. End of the world is nigh. Yeah. How is this . And is it how unusual is this . And is it something we should be concerned about should something we should be concerned ab01enjoy should something we should be concerned ab01enjoy right should something we should be concerned ab01enjoy right now . Should just enjoy right now . Andy is right, because in 2011, on the 1st of october, we got 29. 9 degrees and that was the in terms of why the record. Now, in terms of why were getting this and is this something should be worried something we should be worried about . Is something something we should be worried about going is something something we should be worried aboutgoing to is something something we should be worried about going to see something something we should be worried aboutgoing to see morething something we should be worried aboutgoing to see more of. |g something we should be worried aboutgoing to see more of. And were going to see more of. And then start very carefully then we start very carefully tiptoeing discussion tiptoeing around this discussion of change. Were of Climate Change. Were certainly seeing more and more unusual weather events. But i am always very, very firm on that. We have to separate these issues of weather and climate. Now, climate an average of weather climate is an average of weather events taken over period of events taken over a period of time, weather is an time, and weather is an observation of things which happen immediately changes in wind temperature, wind direction, temperature, pressure, of pressure, all that sort of thing. I think got to thing. And i think youve got to separate the two because this is where the hysteria comes. Now, the certainly the climate is certainly changing and there is a link to say that the probability of unusual or extreme events, weather events, increases with the change in climate. So there is a link there. But i think it is a link there. But i think it is wrong and i think its unscientific to look at every single unusual weather event or extreme weather event. The heat waves thats change. Waves go. Thats Climate Change. Its not. It may have made its not. It may have been made more probable by Climate Change, but keep this but i think to keep this discussion sensible and scientific, to keep that scientific, we need to keep that distinction keep it balanced distinction and keep it balanced. Yes, things could. So, yes, these things could become more probable as we look at Climate Change going fonnard. But they might not happen. You cant get from the you cant get away from the fact, though, that we seem to be breaking records all the time with temperatures and even with our temperatures and even this we had the hottest i mean, we had the hottest june on record. Had the june on record. Weve had the beginning september. We saw beginning of september. We saw 30 degrees seven in 30 degrees for seven days in a row, was a record. Weve row, which was a record. Weve had hottest september, the had the hottest september, the joint, hottest on record. Weve had a miserable july. Weve had a miserable july. Very miserable july. We had a very miserable july. Yes, that was that was miserable. But overall, seem miserable. But overall, we seem to at records and not to be looking at records and not just but if you just in the uk, but if you remember a couple ago, remember a couple of months ago, we talking about the we were talking about the cerberus wave in europe, cerberus heat wave in europe, which which absolutely astonishing. Oh, sorry, i and one thing oh, sorry, i was just wondering if the way we are getting our temperatures is changing remember changing in that i just remember and know whether its and i dont know whether its just you im just because, you know, im looking through looking back through rose coloured but i seem to coloured specs, but i seem to remember july and august my remember that july and august my mum to take us down mum and dad used to take us down to torquay something on the to torquay or something on the south coast and you knew you were going a week or two were going to get a week or two of really good baking weather and get the high and now we get the High Temperatures, but only temperatures, but we only get them short spurts. Them in short spurts. And its horrible yes. And then its horrible again. Maybe come again. And then maybe you come along and you say, along a bit later and you say, all right, well do another five days of good weather. Its not like it used to be. And actually, this it isnt. And actually, this is very interesting discussion is a very interesting discussion because summer because not only is this summer not like it used to be, but the winter as well. I mean, its now the beginning and the beginning of october. And i always when i was at always remember when i was at school wrapping october school wrapping up for october and bonfire night and being freezing always and bonfire night and being free snow always and bonfire night and being freesnow in always and bonfire night and being freesnow in december always and bonfire night and being freesnow in december and vays and bonfire night and being freesnow in december and now get snow in december and now december is pretty much were looking at temperatures every year were always looking for know, were always looking for this White Christmas. And i cover this stuff every year and every im looking at every christmas im looking at it and were recording it as well. And were recording temperatures the teens. It as well. And were recording tem| its tures the teens. It as well. And were recording tem|its alles the teens. It as well. And were recording tem|its all very the teens. It as well. And were recording tem|its all very unusual. Ms. It as well. And were recording tem|its all very unusual. And and its all very unusual. And then the snow later on in then we get the snow later on in january. So there is a definite change we no change going on. You know, we no one deny that the weather is one can deny that the weather is changing. Now. The discussion is whether Climate Change, whether thats a Climate Change, manmade or whether cyclical. Okay, nathan, one thing i always love is fact always love is the fact somewhere like bognor regis is going be warmer than going to be warmer than barcelona. Where britain barcelona. Where will britain beat weekend britain beat this weekend britain is going beat this weekend britain is goiiwell, weve got to remember well, weve got to remember that is very hot, but that the europe is very hot, but there are some places, barcelona that the europe is very hot, but the|so re some places, barcelona that the europe is very hot, but the|so re we ne places, barcelona that the europe is very hot, but the|so re we get|laces, barcelona that the europe is very hot, but the|so re we get thats, barcelona that the europe is very hot, but the|so re we get that 27iarcelona 26. So if we get that 27 tomorrow, then well beat barcelona istanbul 25. Barcelona and istanbul 25. Pretty to our 27 pretty grim compared to our 27 tomorrow. Looking, tomorrow. So thats looking, looking not quite so but looking not quite so good. But yeah, parts of europe, we could be up there. To be well up there. So head to bognor desert, get bognor regis sweet desert, get the get the paddling the barbie out, get the paddling pool its still time be maybe its still time to be able to that. And if youre able to do that. And if youre like me, you sort of look back and think. Summers used to be different. When i was a kid, you know, and dad know, and your mum and dad taught how to swim in the taught you how to swim in the sea. My taught us how to sea. My dad taught us how to swim with of those big inner swim with one of those big inner tubes tyre. Swim with one of those big inner tub oh, tyre. Swim with one of those big inner tub oh, they tyre. Swim with one of those big inner tub oh, they were e. Swim with one of those big inner tub oh, they were good. Yeah, oh, they were good. Yeah, they brilliant. They were brilliant. And in places like and that was in places like torquay on the south coast. And i dont were were summers i dont know, were were summers different the days . Different in the olden days . And winters. And winters. To the deep, i used to love the deep, crisp you could set your crisp snow. You could set your watch year you make watch by it. Every year you make massive snowmen. And it was like a fantastic thing to look fonnard to. And was i grew up in the and i was i grew up in the midlands and chances of midlands and the chances of a white were pretty high. Yeah, in and around birmingham, the West Midlands, you a White Christmas you could get a White Christmas now never see now youd never see one. 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E christmas cant remember if youve got last year, tm snowed a christmas cant remember if youve got last year, tm snowed a bitistmas last year, it snowed a bit earlier. Actually. I was in here and snowing at the and it was snowing at the beginning, i think actually beginning, but i think actually it turned mild again. So were looking it turned mild again. So were lookin but interesting. More, but its interesting. Youre likely to get youre more likely to get a white easter than you are to get a christmas. Thats true. A White Christmas. Thats true. Weve 1 or of yes. Weve had 1 or 2 of those, we . Yeah well, yes. Weve had 1 or 2 of tho us we . Yeah well, yes. Weve had 1 or 2 of tho us know we . Yeah well, yes. Weve had 1 or 2 of tho us know what . Yeah well, yes. Weve had 1 or 2 of tho us know what . Yea thoughts let us know what your thoughts are about holidays are about, about what holidays used when you were used to be like when you were young. Maybe youve got a picture. See them or any picture. Love to see them or any pictures youve been taking picture. Love to see them or any pictuthe youve been taking picture. Love to see them or any pictuthe couple been taking picture. Love to see them or any pictuthe couple be dayseing over the last couple of days when suddenly the sun has come out . My hot lips, my salvia, hot lips, cuttings. Out . My hot lips, my salvia, hot lipsa cuttings. Out . My hot lips, my salvia, hot lipsa gorgeous cuttings. Out . My hot lips, my salvia, hot lipsa gorgeous plant. Cuttings. Out . My hot lips, my salvia, hot lipsa gorgeous plant. Buttings. Its a gorgeous plant. But the flower like it looks like flower looks like it looks like a pout. Right showing you a picture there. So you can tell it does, indeed. And i planted them all along the border. And theyve very sort of grungy theyve been very sort of grungy and doing anything. Theyre and not doing anything. Theyre suddenly so tall out, absolute enjoying the sunshine at the moment. So if youve got any moment. So if youve got any nice gardening pictures, do i love have pictures on love to have pictures on a saturday and a sunday . Maybe you could some this afternoon could take some this afternoon for tomorrow. Gb views at for us tomorrow. Gb views at gbviews gbnews. Com. What your hot lips . Dont what are your hot lips . Dont know what season is. They dont know, but theyre pouting to the sun. Okay, moving now to bit pouting to the sun. Politics noving now to bit pouting to the sun. Politics because now to bit pouting to the sun. Politics because thenw to bit pouting to the sun. Politics because the scottish it of politics because the scottish labour leader, anas sannar has said the scottish politics has fundamentally changed after the labour ovennhelmingly when scotlands first recall by election labour candidate Michael Shanks won the rutherglen and Hamilton West seats after securing more than twice the votes of his snp rival katie loudon. The result, of course, is going to pile more pressure on the snp leader and Scottish First minister. Of course humza yousaf , who of course humza yousaf, who has seen partys fortunes has seen his partys fortunes decline in the polls in the wake of the Ongoing Police investigation of course into various snp problems. Our reporter Tamsin Roberts takes a look back at the background of labours newest scottish mp , Michael Shanks. Scottish mp, Michael Shanks. Meet labours newest scottish mp Michael Shanks, who won more than 50 of the vote to take the rutherglen and Hamilton West by election putting a smile on his bosss face who hope its a sign of things to come at the general election. Ive been determined from the moment i took over as leader of the labour party to take us from one of the worst defeats since the 1930. For us to a general election victory. And thats why weve worked so hard to change the labour party. Ive always said that the route that said that the route to that general election runs through scotland and that is because i know how strongly so many people in scotland want change. It feels incredible to represent the community that i live in. The community that i love, but also i do feel the responsibility of thousands of people that have put their trust in me. Is absolutely in me. Is the absolutely extraordinary result , in me. Is the absolutely extraordinary result, a seismic result. And i think this will send shockwaves through the snp. But what else do we know about the 35 year old teacher turned politician . Well, hes previous he hit the headlines away the world of politics away from the world of politics for running all of glasgows 6000 he took on this 6000 streets. He took on this incredible challenge at the beginning of the first covid lockdown when as a way of making the most of his daily exercise as. But does he have any experience politics . Well experience of politics . Well kind of. Hes unsuccessfully stood for election before, three times between 2012 and 2017. He also quit the labour party on the day of the 2019 general election in protest at the partys stance on brexit. And he continues , choose to have continues, choose to have different opinions to the labour leader, particularly it seems, over a potential plan to re engage, if not rejoin the European Union. Tamsin roberts European Union. Tamsin roberts gb news as well. Earlier on our reporter tony mcguire spoke to some of the local people and asked them if they think there is still any chance for Scottish Independence i no, no, i dont think so. No, i dont think so. No, i dont think so. No, i dont think so. And why is that . And why is that . I dont know. Good. Theyre i dont know. Good. Theyre no good. I hope its dead. Its fingers. Fingers crossed. Fingers. Fingers crossed. I think theres bigger issues to sort out than independence, but i think its dead with no heard much about it now. Heard much about it now. It used be all over the it used to be all over the news, but you dont hear it now. Hopefully it would a we hopefully it would be a we would vote for independence. Would vote for independence. I dont support independence. So i voted for the labour candidate. Okay well, today were debating is Scottish Independence. Its dead Scottish Independence. Its dead in the water. Joining us to talk about this is Political Editor at the daily mail. Michael blackley, and scottish political adviser dan mccroskey. Good morning to you, gentlemen. Morning to you, gentlemen. Michael, lets start with you. Not a surprising result. Labour expected to do well, but is this a bellwether, do you think, of the way that the movement is going to go north of the border towards labour . And with that in mind , and is the dream of mind, and is the dream of Scottish Independence withering on . On the vine . The labour certainly keen to talk about this being a seismic election victory and its given them a lot of hope that they can win seats in many parts of scotland. However, i would point outjust scotland. However, i would point out just on that that the conservative are also hopeful of winning seats from the snp. So dont, dont think we can assume that its going to be one way traffic from just the snp to labourin traffic from just the snp to labour in terms of the push for independence . I think its going absolutely nowhere at all. The snp are still going to be talking a lot about independence. Youre going to hear that at their conference next weekend where theyre talking up their independence strategy , but theres absolutely strategy, but theres absolutely no chance that theres going to be an independence referendum if the snp are engulfed in the kind of crisis that they they are deaung of crisis that they they are dealing with at the moment. Dealing with at the moment. Yeah, i mean, dan, certainly until the result from the other night, the snp were always talking about the idea of pushing, pushing, pushing for another referendum. Thats never going to happen now is it . I mean its very difficult to see how that might happen. I see how that might happen. I mean of course the snp government in scotland have had very mixed messages about this issue. On one hand theyve suggested that if they want a majority of seats at the next general election, then that would result in a in a mandate. But then on the flip side, theyve said it would be over 50 of the vote. And on that 50 of the vote. And on that by election result is highly unlikely to see them doing either of those things. So either of those things. So a general election, if that result is played out across the board, that 20 swing the snp would go back to its pre 2015 number of six mps and that pretty much kills the argument. Stone dead michael how much of the result in this by election do you think is a consequence of the scandal thats engulfed the party with the arrest of Nicola Sturgeon and her husband . And her husband . And also the fact that humza yousaf for all of his Time Magazine appearances, is not really seen as a natural successor with the same gravitas as your sturgeons yes, yes. As your sturgeons yes, yes. I think all of that has certainly been a factor. Humza yousaf yesterday had started out by saying that the buck stops with him, but he then did blame pretty much Everything Else for causing the result yesterday. Causing the result yesterday. So. So he talked about the police investigation, which unquestion was a was a factor. Unquestion was a was a factor. You know, the snp have had weeks and weeks and weeks of terrible publicity for whats going on in their party and its caused deep divisions and splits within their elected members and clearly thats going to have an impact on voters. There were also , of course, other factors also, of course, other factors like the covid scandal mp margaret ferrier. What caused that by election in the first place . There was a backlash from voters against her and its not surprising that the snp would take some of the pain from that. So but variety of factors. But humza yousaf has really been struggling to get his authority over his party at the moment and i think hes maybe been trying to please everyone in his party and ended up pleasing no one with with the current strategy. And finally then, dan, just to you, i mean , clearly the to you, i mean, clearly the conservatives were very disappointed to have to lose their deposit. Will they do better in other seats, do you think, in a general election . Yeah, i think that will be the case. Obviously, this was always be a difficult seat for the conservatives to make the argument to vote for us. It was portrayed by the scottish media as a two horse race between the snp and labour and i think theres a lot of pro uk voters who are so sick to death of the snp that there are some definitely some Tactical Movement , definitely some Tactical Movement, shall we say. And i think that was certainly the case from, from our voters. But looking to the next general election, you know , the scottish election, you know, the scottish conservatives are a number of target seats. Many are in rural scotland the party have scotland where the party have traditionally done well in, especially last two especially at the last two general elections. So i think theyll be focus in a lot theyll be a real focus in a lot of constituencies. And of those constituencies. And youll see that play of those constituencies. And you in see that play of those constituencies. And you in the see that play of those constituencies. And you in the messagingiat play of those constituencies. And you in the messaging from ay of those constituencies. And you in the messaging from the out in the messaging from the party over the next year. Have to it okay. Well have to leave it there, you. There, gentlemen. Thank you. Michael dan Michael Blackley and dan mccoskrie that update on mccoskrie for that update on Scottish Independence. Thanks for joining us on gb news forjoining us on gb news breakfast. Forjoining us on gb news breakfast and if youre listening yeah, and if youre listening or from your home in or watching from your home in scotland us scotland at the moment, tell us what think. Do you think what you think. Do you think Scottish Independence is dead . Youre to see that happen youre glad to see that happen or is a dream thats probably or is it a dream thats probably not going to come true for you . Not going to come true for you . Gb at gb views rather at gb gb news at gb views rather at gb news dot com. Keep your views coming in. Okay, lets have a look now at some of the other stories coming into the newsroom this morning. And the uk on course morning. And the uk is on course to see its biggest tax rise in at least 50 years. As a result of freeze on personal of the freeze on personal thresholds soaring thresholds and soaring inflation, according to new analysis by the Resolution Foundation, taxpayers are set to hand over £40 billion a year by 2028, up from a forecast £30 billion. At the same time of chancellor hunt jeremy hunts budget in march. It comes as mr hunt ruled out sizeable tax cuts this year amid tory calls for a pre election giveaway at the conservative Party Conference in manchester. Now northern and southern parts of the uk are going to continue to see a contrast in the weather this weekend. High the weather this weekend. High temperatures and torrential rainfall affecting different areas. The met office have areas. The met office have issued both amber and yellow rain warnings for large parts of scotland and Northern England through to tomorrow morning. And through to tomorrow morning. And theyre saying that Train Services in scotland are expected to be disrupted covid with operators warning with some operators warning passengers not to travel at all. And rishi sunak has said that he hopes tensions between canada and india will de escalate after and india will de escalate after a diplomatic row over the killing of a sikh separatist leader last month. Canadian Prime Ministerjustin leader last month. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in parliament there were credible allegations that india was involved in Hardeep Singh nayyars was involved in Hardeep Singh nayyars death in retaliation to the comments, india told canada that 41 of their diplomats would be removed from the country. Be removed from the country. And lets go to Jonathan Vautrey now for a look at todays weather. Hello there. Very good morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey here with your latest gb news Weather Forecast provided by the met office. Certainly a different feeling day for those in the north to those in the south. High pressure is pushing in europe, in from continental europe, importing southern importing heat for southern areas. Trailing frontal areas. But this trailing frontal system to be providing system is going to be providing very heavy and persistent rain across of scotland across much of scotland throughout there is an throughout the day. There is an amber weather warning in force with disruption to with flooding and disruption to transport most likely in places. The potential for a months worth of rainfall to fall in some locations , actions may even some locations, actions may even lead to some shallow landslides. So do take care for northern ireland, wales and england are largely dry day. Some hazy sunshine around at times, temperatures climbing towards 23 c in the southeast, where wed normally be around 16 degrees time of the degrees at this time of the yeah degrees at this time of the year. Rain will continue , year. The rain will continue, though, across as we though, across scotland as we head night. Again, some head over night. Again, some heavy pulses around at times. Other generally staying other areas generally staying dry, well start to see some dry, but well start to see some cloud push eastern areas of cloud push into eastern areas of england. Turning england overnight. Turning a little murkier most of little bit murkier here. Most of us, seeing temperatures us, though, seeing temperatures hot around 12 13 c. So a hot up around 12 to 13 c. So a fairly mild to sunday. The fairly mild start to sunday. The rain across scotland will gradually push its way northwards during the day on sunday. Still some heavy pulses for aberdeen and the highlands to with and to begin with and then eventually into the Northern Isles later on. Cloud on the isles later on. The cloud on the east be bit to east will be a bit stubborn to clear throughout the morning, but some but into the afternoon, some brighter should develop, but into the afternoon, some brigiter should develop, but into the afternoon, some brigiter walesld develop, but into the afternoon, some brigiter wales ,i develop, but into the afternoon, some brigit er wales , southwest but it will be wales, southwest england that the of but it will be wales, southwest eng sunshine the of but it will be wales, southwest engsunshine on the of but it will be wales, southwest engsunshine on sunday. Of the sunshine on sunday. Temperatures, again temperatures, though, again climbing 25 c in parts climbing towards 25 c in parts of london. Enjoy your day by by. Yeah, enjoy your day or watch out for whats going to be torrential rain. Coming up. Torrential rain. Coming up. Were to be looking back were going to be looking back on Suella Bravermans speech on immigration during the tory Party Conference. Youre watching breakfast on gb good morning. Its 7 25. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne and martin. A bit earlier during our headune a bit earlier during our headline makers, we were talking about the male menopause or the menopause as the front page of the daily mail is talking about and whether it is a real thing and whether it is a real thing and whether it is a real thing and whether we should be calling it that. Yeah, jan says , im in it that. Yeah, jan says, im in my 50s and ive been a therapist for over 30 years. The andropause as the menopause is properly known, is nothing new. So jan is saying the menopause is real. Thank you, jan , youre an actual therapist jan, youre an actual therapist recognised by nhs. Its on the nhs website. The male menopause nhs website. The male menopause is in inverted commas because thats what its referred to by the press. But yeah, the andropause describes an age related reduction of testosterone in men. Signs testosterone in men. Signs include fatigue, insomnia , mood include fatigue, insomnia, mood changes and more. It can also affect your fertility. So it is affect your fertility. So it is a real thing and it certainly is for a lot of women, isnt it . Sue in lincolnshire says im older now, but i suffer terribly with symptoms for over 20 years. But i never had off. But i never had time off. I would have felt so guilty. Yeah. However, weather grabbing however, the weather is grabbing you moment. Tim says hes you at the moment. Tim says hes planning to go. Hes planning to planning to go. Hes planning to go sick off work. Sorry, tim. Go sick off work. Sorry, tim. Well, maybe its just as well. I dont your surname or where dont know your surname or where you the weather is so good you live. The weather is so good here. He says. Interesting. John me saying this and the forecast in the east midlands is for not a heat wave today. Not even any sunshine is forecast. This is all fake made up news. And over to you. Well, it is not because weve both been checking if you look at the east midlands airport , at the east midlands airport, which is i mean, its often usually airport websites that tell what the weather it is tell you what the weather it is going baking hot today in going to be baking hot today in the midlands. The east midlands. Mean, would be i mean, that would be nottingham midlands nottingham east midlands airport. Correct. But for airport. Thats correct. But for that going be that area its going to be baking today and tomorrow. Baking hot today and tomorrow. So pretty hot monday , very hot so pretty hot monday, very hot tuesday 11th. You might get a little bit of a little bit of rain and then still hot on thursday. So i dont know what youre looking at, but the Weather Forecast in the east midlands yeah im going midlands is good. Yeah im going by office and im going by the met office and im going by anne diamond. Sorry, john, i think weve called you not fake news. Called you out. Not fake news. Look out the look out the window. Its to going a window. Its to going be a corker. Window. Its to going be a coridanny says while people danny says while most people may and may be having barbecues and sunbathing today, can report sunbathing today, i can report that be cutting the that im going to be cutting the grass yes, thats grass before winter. Yes, thats got in my garden, too. Ive got. Ive got. Meanwhile, ian says, ian, where do you live . Were to going the beach today to going go to the beach today to top the tan. I dont blame you. Beautiful. Beautiful. Keep them coming in. Time now news right. Time now for news matters, where we look back on a saturday at some of the biggest stories have happened stories that have happened dunng stories that have happened during the week during the conservative conference conservative Party Conference in manchester, home secretary suella shared her Suella Braverman shared her concern about immigration in this is what she said. This is what she said. One of the most powerful forces reshaping our world is unprecedented mass migration , unprecedented mass migration, the wind of change that carried my own parents across the globe in the 20th century was a mere gust compared led to the hurricane that is coming. It is labour power that turbocharged their impact by passing the misnamed human rights act. Im surprised they didnt call it the criminal rights act. It it was a very strong speech , but a was a very strong speech, but a lot of people might be worried about the phraseology and some of the words she used. Of the words she used. Was it David Cameron who got in terrible trouble for talking about people swarming in . Thats right. Thats right. And its word hurricane and its the word hurricane there particular thats been there in particular thats been seized upon to talk about seized upon loads to talk about in this debate. But lets look at a counterpoint point that came in also earlier this week from is one of the from bana al abed is one of the worlds most famous and youngest refugee campaigners. Shes from refugee campaigners. Shes from syria and has been campaigning for better treatment of m i grants, for better treatment of migrants, especially children. Migrants, especially children. And she said to us and this is what she said to us earlier this on gb news. Earlier this week on gb news. No child deserves to be a refugee and no child deserves to be under siege. And you know, every child deserves to have the right to be educated and live in a Better Future and in a safe place. Many people dont like refugees. They think that , you refugees. They think that, you know, we come here because we like just we want to like, do nothing. But we are actually refugees. We come from a place thatis refugees. We come from a place that is horrible. We when i was that is horrible. We when i was in syria , we couldnt eat in syria, we couldnt eat anything. So we were always so hungry and always sick. So when we come to a new country and we want help because we dont know the language and we dont know any of the traditions or cultures or anything. Cultures or anything. Wow. Yeah thats the first time ive seen that clip. Yeah. Time ive seen that clip. Yeah. Very, very articulate, very , very, very articulate, very, very passionate. You know, very heartfelt , very passionate. You know, very heartfelt, humane way of portraying that in stark contrast to what a lot of people are saying. Suella braverman take was. And thats the debate this week, where are we sat on the great immigration debate . The great immigration debate . And joining us now is immigration lawyer skylar mckeith. Good to you, mckeith. Good morning to you, skylar. Ways, a pleasure to skylar. All ways, a pleasure to have you on the show. We have two contrasting takes on two very contrasting takes on this. Start with suella this. Shall we start with Suella Braverman . She talked about the braverman . She talked about the winds of change and then her next phrase was perhaps poor has turned into a hurricane seized upon by her critics, of course, that a hurricane is a Destructive Force that rips britain apart. What do you make of what she said . Yeah i mean, its definitely some harsh words. I do think some people are perhaps more sense additive nowadays, but it cannot be denied that immigration is at a high, with it only increasing. High, with it only increasing. And so the governments efforts and focus, of course, should be on cracking down on unlawful immigration and certainly on the dangerous small boat crossings. The asylum system is a system thats not really working and theres currently a large backlog of asylum claims that need to be processed. Over need to be processed. Over 135,000 people are waiting for a decision its costing the uk taxpayer billions of pounds a year and around £6 million a day. So its definitely a major issue. And the government is actually restricting immigration across the board on both the legal side and the unlawful side. There making it harder now to come to the uk legally for economic migration. An theyve economic migration. An theyve increased visa application fees for economic migrants and also for economic migrants and also for spouses of british citizens. And they are also planning to stop students from bringing dependence on their visas. So we could see a knock on effect of this as many british universities rely heavily on International Students as well. International students as well. You only have to look at the contrasting pictures that were showing at the moment here in bannau talk earlier. I mean, what a cogent what a what a brilliant speaker she was. What brilliant speaker she was. What a lovely looking young woman who made her point so eloquently and then contrastingly, we see boatloads of what looked like hooded young men. And you can hooded young men. And you can understand people fearing one while also wanting to accept the other. Cant you . Other. Cant you . Exactly. When you see her talk so eloquently like that, its difficult to hear at times. And asylum is when an individual is given protection by another country because they cannot return home because of war, violence or persecution. And violence or persecution. And once the home is recognises that they are a refugee, then they will be able to work in the uk and a refugee is an individual who cannot return home for fear of death, violence or persecution. And many of the people arriving to the public dont necessarily appear to be those types of individuals. Those types of individuals. Fascinating. Skylar how she set herself bannau she said that the people coming here illegally in a sense , are taking the in a sense, are taking the narrative , taking the sympathy narrative, taking the sympathy away from people like herself who, of course, deserve our support and our sanctuary. And its worth pointing out that the concern with immigration isnt some minority or extremist position. In fact, the majority of brits now think immigration immigration beg your pardon should be reduced. And the should be reduced. And the biggest score of all is 37 believe it should be reduced. A believe it should be reduced. A lot Suella Braverman back to her. She knows this is going to be a central tenet, if not of this election, perhaps of her future leadership bid. And yet future leadership bid. And yet we have a backdrop of a government that have completely fail , failed to control our fail, failed to control our borders. So for all the tough talk in the world, were still faced with borders that are very porous. Porous. Absolutely. For a long time absolutely. For a long time now, weve kept hearing theyre going to sort out this issue. Going to sort out this issue. Theyre going to sort out this issue. And its not really been sorted yet. So we will see. Yeah, at the end of the day, the burden of substantiating an asylum claim lies with the claimant. So yeah, well see how this works out. This works out. Yeah. And as weve been making the point during the day, i mean its happening all over the world, isnt it . Skylar thanks very much indeed. Good to talk. So that was our talk to you. So that was our look back at that big speech that happened earlier on in the week. Lets bring you right back up to date, though. At 735. Lets go through some of the latest showbiz news because theres a lot around stephanie techy is with us. Morning. And, martin, good morning. And, martin, what we never thought wed ever talk about is the axing of top gear. Gean it could be the end of the road for top gear. We know the nafion road for top gear. We know the nation some of us, we love speed. And thats why top gear has become a Tv Institution for almost 46 years now. Oh, god, is it 46 years . Even Angela Rippon was once a presenter on top gean was once a presenter on top gear. But its all changed since last december, when Freddie Flintoff suffered a horrific car crash. He was driving. At 130mph crash. He was driving. At 130mph in a roofless car. He didnt have a helmet on. Hes been he was left with broken ribs and facial injuries. Its only a fast. Few days ago, he came out and said its been the most hardest time of his life since then , the production has been then, the production has been brought to a halt. Its been almost 12 months now. Production people who are working on it havent worked. And there are havent worked. And there are now reports coming out saying that the bbc are set to exit. The bbc have come out and said a decision on the timing of future top gear shows will be made in due course with bbc content. Given this is the case of the show was taking more and more risks. I Richard Hammond risks. I mean Richard Hammond had a had a crash. This was an open top car. The vehicle in question. No airbags, no airbags, didnt have an appropriate no airbags, no helmets. No, no. Think you had a helmet on. But but not a full face helmet. Full face . Why . Apparently injuries. Apparently he suffered injuries. It traumatising to it was so, so traumatising to the staff that witnessed it. The staff that witnessed it. Yes. Some of are still kind yes. Some of them are still kind of therapy for that. Yes. Some of them are still kind of show therapy for that. Yes. Some of them are still kind of show couldnty for that. Yes. Some of them are still kind of show couldnt come. Hat. Yes. Some of them are still kind of show couldnt come back the show couldnt come back after that. Thats the problem, martin, because you do not want a show on air thats producing casualties and potentially putting a presenters life at risk. Luckily for freddie risk. Luckily for Freddie Flintoff , he survived, and so flintoff, he survived, and so did Richard Hammond. But who did Richard Hammond. But who knows, next time someone might not. Problem is, you not. And the problem is, you cannot then bring this series back. And its still doing dangerous stunts like this. But then think about the then you have to think about the viewers home. Theyre not viewers at home. Theyre not going a lightweight going to want a lightweight version gear. And it has version of top gear. And it has been a lot arguments. Been a lot of arguments. You argue that after 46 you could argue that after 46 years, should actually be years, they should actually be thinking of calling a day. Thinking of calling it a day. Mean, this isnt the but, i mean, this isnt the first time these things but, i mean, this isnt the first ihappened. Things have happened. Think noel edmonds no, you think of noel edmonds is where is suddenly night show where somebody actually yeah. Somebody actually died. Yeah. And sometimes times they take too many risks and obviously i think the only thing to do is to take it off air. But its shame. It is a shame because it is one of those heritage programs that we do love the for bbc top gear money spinner. Gear has a money spinner. Is. It is. It is. Its a worldwide franchise. Its but think its gone worldwide. But i think my personal opinion is since Jeremy Clarkson left that Jeremy Clarkson left and that team, hasnt been the same. Team, it hasnt been the same. I think a lot of people will be out there agreeing with that sentiment because in many ways they were the golden days, slightly incorrect , slightly politically incorrect, a bit at the edges, you a bit rough at the edges, you know, a bit of banter. Thats what people about the what people liked about the show. Think if try to show. And i think if you try to water it and weve seen water it down and weve seen since left, hard since theyve left, its hard to recreate that magic. Talking of sort of taking now talking of sort of taking well , not risks, but challenges. Well, not risks, but challenges. Yeah the bbc drama aboutjimmy savile is due to air, i think , savile is due to air, i think, dunng savile is due to air, i think, during the week isnt it . Its on monday and its and its starring steve coogan , who i starring steve coogan, who i think is tremendous, amazing. Think is tremendous, amazing. Have you seen any of it . Ive seen weve got trailer, which seen weve got a trailer, which were to play now. Were going to play now. Seen steve youve never seen steve coogan like this, but he really does do the role justice. I hope you do have a trailer , as it you do have a trailer, as it would sound. I dont think theres sound, but hes playing jimmy savile. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And its a four part its and he its a four part its a four parter. And its going to looking and its going to be looking at of jimmy savile as at the rise of jimmy savile as a british tv star, but also the abuse that followed. He was never brought to justice when he died this is going died in 2011. So this is going to be focusing on his victims. To be focusing on his victims. Look at him, the sexual abuse. He looks like him a lot. Yeah. Hes got like a prosthetic on the wig and yeah. Hes got like a prostracksuit on the wig and yeah. Hes got like a prostracksuit. On the wig and yeah. Hes got like a prostracksuit. Ityn the wig and yeah. Hes got like a prostracksuit. It is the wig and yeah. Hes got like a prostracksuit. It is quiteig and the tracksuit. It is quite chilly. Big question , chilly. The big question, though, are the bbc looking though, is, are the bbc looking themselves in the mirror about their role in enabling this for so long, or is itjust focusing so long, or is it just focusing on him as an individual . Do they take responsibility for their part in it . If im being honest, they dont. Theyve swept it underneath the carpet because as we the we know, jimmy savile, at the time his death, newsnight was time of his death, newsnight was working on an investigation that they wanted to air shortly after his death. But the bbc shelved it. And what did , it. And instead what they did, they a tribute show on for they put a tribute show on for jimmy savile. It took for itv to do an expose for it to all come out. So they are receiving a lot of criticism about this drama because include that because they do not include that in. Was big he in. And it was a big thing. He was a bbc star and he managed to get away with this. He did, for heavens sake. And even after he died, had and even after he died, he had a state didnt he . And even after he died, he had a staibut didnt he . And even after he died, he had a staibut steve didnt he . And even after he died, he had a staibut steve coogan|e . And even after he died, he had a staibut steve coogan says the but steve coogan says the point of the drama is that theyre hoping that history wont repeat itself and that when talk about these when victims talk about these kind in the future, kind of cases in the future, they will be listened to. Because he said a lot of people they will be listened to. Bethese he said a lot of people they will be listened to. Bethe time,said a lot of people they will be listened to. Bethe time, theya lot of people they will be listened to. Bethe time, they were of people they will be listened to. Bethe time, they were ofpeople they will be listened to. Bethe time, they were of lowle at the time, they were of low status. When they were trying status. So when they were trying to the jimmy to talk about the abuse, jimmy savile putting them through savile was putting them through or knew they werent or people who knew they werent listened to apparently. Listened to apparently. I think its Something Like for the real have come for the real victims have come fonnard allowed themselves fonnard and allowed themselves to be identified. Featured the theyre featured in the documents and the drama, so it will be quite interesting to see documents and the drama, so it will it quite interesting to see documents and the drama, so it will it qucomeseresting to see documents and the drama, so it will it qucomes along. To see documents and the drama, so it will it qucomes along. Thatee documents and the drama, so it will it qucomes along. That was how it all comes along. That was a moving vignette. A really moving vignette. One of the victims, i saw of one of the victims, went to see the screening. Yeah. And herself in that and watched herself in that screening. She said screening. And actually she said she found the experience quite cathartic. Yeah, healing cathartic. Yeah, sort of healing happened to her. Yeah, itll be. Yeah, itll be. Yeah, itll be. Yeah , itll be uncomfortable yeah, itll be uncomfortable viewing, ill be watching viewing, but ill be watching it. But still, theres of but still, theres a lot of questions being raised questions that are being raised about their part in about the bbc and their part in this whether they should about the bbc and their part in this taken|ether they should about the bbc and their part in this taken more they should about the bbc and their part in this taken more ownership. D about the bbc and their part in this taken more ownership in have taken more ownership in thislts have taken more ownership in this its fascinating stuff. Its fascinating stuff. Steph, pleasure. Thanks. Brilliant. Youre coming back again. Im coming back. Weve got more tell to weve got more to tell us to now. Coming up, would you jump out plane . Ive been out of a plane . Ive been offered the chance quite few offered the chance quite a few times and always said no. Yeah dorothy from chicago , Dorothy Reddin from chicago, though, did. And she is 104 years old. Were going to be discussing that. And more in headune discussing that. And more in headline makers in just a couple of moments. Theres help for households. Are you over state pension age . If your weekly income is below £201. 05, or £306. 85 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. Its worth, on average, £3,500 a year, and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus cost of living payments. Welcome back. Its 745. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne diamond and myself. Martin daubney is the weather different from how it was when you were a child . Yes. Or are you were a child . Yes. Or are you just looking back through rose glasses . Rona says, rose tinted glasses . Rona says, im 60 and i clearly remember hot weather during the october week holidays is around week School Holidays is around 46 or 47 years ago. Howard is short and to the point. Im welsh and im 75 and i dont remember that many White Christmases. Maybe you had a few sherries in the morning, but tony says unfortunately an everything in this country, including the weather, was better years ago. I do tend to agree with that. Yes, i know i sort of do. But i think thats just a sign of age. Yes, it is. Okay. Lets bring you date then with whats you up to date then with whats going after its going on in the world after its victory the rutherglen victory in the rutherglen by election the i reports of labours plan to solve the uk housing crisis by building new towns and taxing developers and that new homes plan by labour is going to be unveiled at the conference of liverpools weekend is also on the front of the guardian. Labour policies also make the top story in the times with the Shadow Health secretary saying that the nhs must modernise or die. Must modernise or die. Is that shorthand for theyre going to partly privatise it. Moving on. Menopause mad nurse thats the headline on the front of the reporting that of the mail reporting that dozens of public bodies and universities have what it calls male menopause policies. Male menopause policies. And then the death of the wife of former Manchester United football manager sir Alex Ferguson is the lead story in the star. And our commiserations the star. And our commiserations to him hugely, i think always called her his rock. Well, joining us to go through some of the days headunesis through some of the days headlines is back with us again is gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and former conservative adviser clare purcell. Hello to you again, guys. Lets start with that menopause thing. I know we covered that in the last in the last one because we had confirmation, didnt we, that its a real thing. A therapist here it is. Jan wrote in saying it is a real thing. Its called the andropause. So nigel, you were lets move on to. Were right. Lets move on to. Oh, god, im so glad you said that. I dont think we can take any more of that at the moment. That. I dont think we can take anybutre of that at the moment. That. I dont think we can take anybut it of that at the moment. That. I dont think we can take anybut it is that at the moment. That. I dont think we can take anybut it is there at the moment. That. I dont think we can take anybut it is there as he moment. That. I dont think we can take anybut it is there as a moment. That. I dont think we can take anybut it is there as a thinglent. That. I dont think we can take anybut it is there as a thing ont. But it is there as a thing on the nhs website. Yes however, nigel. Youve looking nigel. Yeah. Youve been looking to front page lead of the to the front page lead of the telegraph where police have wrongly labelled hundreds of suspected rapists. Yes, as women, yes. And this is from a freedom of information request. And this is from a freedom of information request. But and this is from a freedom of information request. But what information request. But what what the telegraph discovered that over the last four years, 260 men who identify as women have been sent to the Crown Prosecution Service for alleged rape. Another 200 plus are non binary , so theyre just non binary, so theyre just registered as unknown. And the registered as unknown. And the tricky bit here is that you can only be be convicted, you can only be be convicted, you can only be be convicted, you can only be a rapist in the law if youre a biological male is that right . Yes, yes, yes. Right . Yes, yes, yes. Because rape is a man on woman thing. Its the insertion an its the it can be a man or man thing, but its actually. Yes, but martins absolutely right. You you have to be a biological man to be a rapist. So if these people are trying to get out of the charges by pretending to be women, thats obviously wrong. Who is advising them to do this . Because there are so many. This isnt just coincidence , is it . It was it was guidelines. The police had and the home secretary Suella Braverman, says that they ought to stop, but they havent stopped yet. So our police at some stage saying to alleged rapists, were probably going to charge you with rape. Yeah, but you need to know that you have the to that you have the right to actually that not actually plead that youre not a man. Well you have to man. Well well, you have to register the gender of the of the person. So the answer would yeah. So the answer i would have thought to get around this is that whatever your gender is on a on an official document. So whether it be a driving licence a passport or whatever , the a passport or whatever, the police should use that gender. Othennise it would get so complicated. And this brings clare into sharp focus. The conversation around self identification. And around self identification. And of course we saw the case in scotland of isla bryson, the male rapist, biological man who became a woman to go into a womans jail, a tactic this report says is becoming increasingly prevalent as a way of having a softer time in jail, but also opening up the ability for predatory biological men to go into womens safe spaces. And go into womens safe spaces. And a lot of people campaigning. This is a law that should be changed and i think Suella Braverman is trying to do that. And she has told Police Forces that this needs to stop, that they cannot not just take this sort of selfies identification, but the slightly a missed point of all of this is also it makes the Crime Statistics next to useless because if youre looking at it as to what crimes are being committed against who and where do you need to put your resources, then the figures are going to be skewed. The data is then useless and then going to be useless and justice served. Justice hasnt been served. Absolutely. Justice hasnt been served. Those served. And for all of those victims of rape, i think this is a real kick in the teeth to them that crimes are not taken that their crimes are not taken seriously going seriously and people are going to get off, as you say, lightly. Seriously and people are going to gcannff, as you say, lightly. Seriously and people are going to gcan i , as you say, lightly. Seriously and people are going to gcan ii, asthe| say, lightly. Seriously and people are going to gcan ii, asthe mood, ghtly. Seriously and people are going to gcan ii, asthe mood, though , can i lift the mood, though, before out of time about before we run out of time about this amazing woman whos104 years old and she has thrown herself out of an aeroplane, if you like, claire, tell us about it. It. This is 104 year old lady from chicago, dorothy hoffner. From chicago, dorothy hoffner. And she has become the Guinness World record holder for a tandem sky for a skydive. Ive it was sky for a skydive. Ive it was previously held by 103 year old. Oh, my goodness. But i mean, when you when you look at the footage of this, i mean this strap to an instructor , this strap to an instructor, this little old lady who had approached the aeroplane with a with a zimmer frame was helped up the steps and then is just free falling. Shes enjoying it, free falling. Shes enjoying it, just enjoying every second of it. Those who cant see it, shes smiling like a like a cheshire cat and her grey hair is in the wind. I mean, and there she they make a very , very good landing, make a very, very good landing, soft landing. Soft landing. Yeah. I mean, for starters , yeah. I mean, for starters, id be terrified of doing anything like that. And secondly, at that age, id be concerned that you might call it mid air. Yeah, well, i wonder if i wonder if her expert jumper with her was one about that i wouldnt have done that at 40, let alone at 104. Thats brilliant. Brilliant. Uh, well move on then. Nigel to Boris Johnson and what he thinks of rishi sunaks barmy. Oh, no, sorry. Thats what he thought. Thats what he thinks of the smoking ban. The. The fact that you can if youre one age, you can smoke yourself to death. If born day yes. But if youre born a day later, youre allowed to later, youre not allowed to smoke at all. Exactly. Yes this is this was announced at the tory Party Conference. Its increase conference. So its to increase the smoking age by one year every year until nobody can ever buy cigarettes. What Boris Johnson says is, is this is completely barmy. I shouldnt be telling people what to do. And its true. Its very unconservative to go and do that, which is why it was interested that rishi sunak did it , because the conservatives it, because the conservatives are meant to believe in freedom of however as smoking is of choice. However as smoking is the biggest killer in this country, i do think its probably a very sensible plan to actually introduce. But theres also an argument, claire, to make £10 billion per annum in tobacco tax. Claire, to make £10 billion per annum in tobacco tax. Smokers in annum in tobacco tax. Smokers in annum in tobacco tax. Smokers in a way pay as they go. If youre going to be if youre going to be brutal it and is it be brutal about it and is it actually that is actually i know that rishi is very about topic very passionate about this topic. Is this like a legacy issue . Does he want to make his point . He the chop he thinks he might get the chop at election anyway, but at the next election anyway, but hes stand and boris is hes making a stand and boris is rebelling against this. I think rebelling against this. I think youve nailed it. Not very youve nailed it. Its not very conservative thing to is it . Conservative thing to do, is it . To state this . Conservative thing to do, is it . To it state this . Conservative thing to do, is it . To it isnt. State this . Conservative thing to do, is it . To it isnt. And te this . Conservative thing to do, is it . To it isnt. And strangely, ; . Conservative thing to do, is it . To it isnt. And strangely, i it isnt. And strangely, i now agree with Boris Johnson, which is very unusual ground for me to be on. And i think hes right. I mean, it is profoundly unconservative. Its also how is it going to work in practise are you going to have the situation of a shopkeeper having to id a 40 year old and say, well , are 40 year old and say, well, are you born on or before the 1st of january 2009, in in which case you cant. And whats going to happen are the police going to go arrest a 41 year go round and arrest a 41 year old for buying a packet of cigarettes for a 40 year old . Well, not to take well, you may not have to take it theres no it that far, but theres no doubt will have effect. Doubt it will have an effect. Will an effect. Will have an effect. Will have an effect. Youre right to and i think youre right to look at smoking. But think look at smoking. But i think that sunak needed that rishi sunak really needed to slightly to have addressed a slightly more complicated and larger if you pardon the pun problem, which is obesity for Public Health reasons. I think that is health reasons. I think that is on the increase. Whereas smoking on the increase. Whereas smoking in those age groups actually in those age groups is actually on the decrease. But, know, think but, you know, i think obesity is much harder to fight than stopping smoking. Than just stopping smoking. Cigarettes it is. But cigarettes being sold, put the money into sold, we put the money into looking at that and looking hard. Very complex area, hard. It is a very complex area, but would save so many more but it would save so many more lives we could work with those. But theyve tried everything , they . Tried , havent they . Theyve tried putting lights putting different traffic lights on wants to. On food. Yes. Nobody wants to. No, like food. No, they still like the food. They even its they like, even though its making fat and unhealthy. Making them fat and unhealthy. There cant be single there cant be a single smoker there who who doesnt smoker out there who who doesnt know its bad for them. Yes. I mean, knows smoking is mean, everyone knows smoking is bad, but its choice. And bad, but its a choice. And should the tory government be mandating against boris, mandating against choice . Boris, obviously thinks no, so do you. Yeah, i do. And i think for once he is absolutely spot on on this. And im with rishi on this one. One. Im with rishi on this one. I think why not give a go . Think why not give it a go . Nobody wants their because nobody wants their child smoking, child to take up smoking, do they really . Nobody wants they really . Nobody really wants it thanks much it. Okay. Thanks very much indeed moment, weve run indeed for the moment, weve run out again, we do out of time yet again, but we do want find out about the weather. Hello there. Very good morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey with latest gb vautrey here with your latest gb news forecast provided news Weather Forecast provided by met office. Certainly by the met office. Certainly a different feeling day for those in to north those the in the to north those in the south, High Pressure pushing in the to north those in the south, tcontinental pushing in the to north those in the south, tcontinental europe,|ing in from continental europe, importing for southern importing heat for southern areas. This trailing frontal areas. But this trailing frontal system is going to be providing very persistent rain very heavy and persistent rain across much of scotland throughout there is an throughout the day. There is an amber warning in force amber weather warning in force with flooding and disruption to transport in place says transport likely in place says the potential for a months worth of rainfall to fall in some locations may even lead to some locations may even lead to some shallow landslides. So do some shallow landslides. So do take care for northern ireland. Wales and england are largely dry day. Some hazy sunshine around at times, temperatures climbing towards 23 c in the southeast, where wed normally be around 16 degrees at this time of year. The be around 16 degrees at this time of year. The rain will time of the year. The rain will continue, though, across scotland we head over night scotland as we head over night again heavy pulses around again, some heavy pulses around at times. Other areas generally at times. Other areas generally staying start to staying dry. But well start to see some cloud push into eastern areas of england overnight, turning bit murkier turning a little bit murkier here. Us, though, seeing here. Most of us, though, seeing temperatures to temperatures hot up around 12 to 13 c. So a fairly mild start to sunday. The rain across scotland will gradually push its way northwards during the day on sunday. Still some heavy pulses for aberdeenshire and the highlands begin with and then highlands to begin with and then eventually into the Northern Isles cloud and isles later on, the cloud and the will be a bit stubborn the east will be a bit stubborn to clear throughout the morning, but into the afternoon some brighter develop. But into the afternoon some brig iter develop. But into the afternoon some brig iter be develop. But into the afternoon some brig iter be wales, develop. But into the afternoon some brig iter be wales, southwest but it will be wales, southwest england sees the of england that sees the best of the sunday. The sunshine on sunday. Temperatures the sunshine on sunday. Temperattowards 25 c in parts climbing towards 25 c in parts of london. Enjoy your day by by. Oh, yes. Do enjoy your day. Oh, yes. Do enjoy your day. Gabby says mourning. Gabby, i am gabby says mourning. Gabby, i am going to be heading out to the Bluebell Railway today with my son for his birthday. This weather reminds me of the day he was and after the labour party heralded yesterdays success in the by election in scotland as seismic, today were asking the big question is there still a chance for Scottish Independence . Because bigger issues to 7 because bigger issues to sort out than independence, i think its dead. Well, ive not heard much about it now. It used to be all over the news, but you dont hearit over the news, but you dont hear it now. Hear it now. Well, earlier this week, some first time voters joined us to share their views on rishi sunak speech at the tory Party Conference. Were going to revisit some of their comments and ask how the young generation is likely to vote in the next election. Were nice of them to actually get out and vote. Anyway. Here is jonathan with your all important weather. Some of us will be seeing some very warm sunshine today for others, though, theres heavy, persistent rainfall in the so do join me the forecast. So do join me later for all the details of what can expect and do. What you can expect and do. Let us know how youre going to spend. What should be a nice Sunny Afternoon for you, at least in some parts of the country. Lovely to be with you today. Im anne diamond. And im Martin Daubney. And this. This is breakfast on. Gb news. I was asking whether its just sort of looking back through rose tinted glasses, thinking that summers were longer and more reliable. Well, longer and more reliable. Well, when you were young, when i was a kid and kevin says winters are getting later and later now, maybe instead of resetting the clocks every year, we should reset the months and then we would have winter when it should be. Yeah, its a good point because im before i had kids, i always used to go on holiday in september because september i think become more think now has become a much more reliable month. Is desperate, august is desperate, unreliable july this unreliable and july this year was pants. Yeah, was absolute pants. Yeah, it was. And didnt used to was. And yet it didnt used to be way did so the be that way did it . So the changing nature of our weather is fascinating. Were going to be talking about that right now because, well, according to the experts, winter actually isnt here maybe not even here just yet. Maybe not even autumn, because were going to set going to enjoy rather set were going to enjoy rather temperatures least 22 temperatures of at least 22 degrees for the next five days. Marvellous. And temperatures marvellous. And temperatures today could reach 25 degrees and up to 27 degrees tomorrow on sunday, making it unusually and unseasonably warm for an october. Well , who is better to ask well, who is better to ask all about this than Weather Forecaster john kettley , who forecaster john kettley, who joins us now. Lovely to see you, john. Lovely to see you. I dont know if you can hear us. Can you . Well double checking the tech. Tech. Sorry. No, well go. Sorry. No, well go. Sorry. No, well go. Hes been hit by a hurricane. Hes been hit by a hurricane. Yes, thats true. Well go back to john a bit later on. But we are getting brilliant weather, at least in the south of the country, sort of yorkshire downwards. But North Yorkshire downwards. But North Yorkshire upwards in in scotland, particularly torrential rain, which could actually disrupt some of the Train Services. Should we try and see if we can get through to john again now . Morning, john. John again now . Morning, john. Good morning, ann. Sorry about that. Lovely. You had us on mute. Clearly yes. So, john, can you explain whats happening with the weather at the moment and why in the middle of october we should getting a heat wave . Should be getting a heat wave . Well, you know, large parts of europe at the moment have been exceptionally hot for quite some its been a really some time. Its been a really good late summer spell of weather, covering much of central southern parts of europe, particular, whole europe, in particular, the whole of mediterranean at the of the mediterranean at the moment and moment is really fantastic and its time to be taking its a good time to be taking advantage of the kids back at school and youve got the chance to go away. But were getting a taste of that, really. If you want to say that we can say that weve got some of that Southern European coming further european heat coming further north, common, north, and its not common, obviously. October to get obviously. In october to get this sort of High Temperature weather, but its welcome all the keeping the same. Its keeping the energy down and all that energy bills down and all that sort of thing. But its really because its coming from Southern Europe. Were seeing a wind direction thats wind direction change and thats bringing jet stream further bringing the jet stream further north. Already north. But as youve already mention, terrible mention, than it is terrible over scotland. So weve got more heavy rain to come in the next 36 hours across scotland and a real risk of further flooding and to come there. And landslides to come there. Its awful. And i wonder, john, you know , its always a pleasure to speak you, the voice of my speak to you, the voice of my childhood. Im a nottingham lad myself. Youre on local myself. Youre on my local radio. Great speak you as radio. Great to speak to you as even i radio. Great to speak to you as ever. I wonder how much of ever. But i wonder how much of this we this conversation this we had this conversation about it just great weather . About is it just great weather . Is just or is it is it just warm or is it something so more Something Else . So the more nefarious is Climate Change . Nefarious is it Climate Change . I thought you werent going to mention those two words. Thats terrible, martin. You know perfectly well you know where im sitting on this. Do you . This is part and parcel of global warming. Weve got warming atmosphere across the whole moment. So whole world at the moment. So were get these higher were going to get these higher temperatures coming across temperatures coming in across the its part and the uk as well. Its part and parcel of that. Its not necessary , eerily, what you call necessary, eerily, what you call Climate Change. Just hate that Climate Change. I just hate that phrase it was climate phrase. Mean if it was Climate Change, wouldnt got 40 change, wouldnt we have got 40 degrees year just degrees again this year just like did last year and were like we did last year and were always get the same always going to get the same sort weather year on year, sort of weather year on year, but exponentially worse or hotter or whatever. Its just not like that, far not happening like that, as far as concerned. Is as im concerned. This is britain. Were between 50 britain. Were in between 50 degrees 60 degrees north. Degrees and 60 degrees north. Weve got more influence weve got much more influence from coming from from the weather coming from different the Different Directions from the arctic , from southern as arctic, from Southern Europe, as we the moment, from the we are at the moment, from the east, from west and all that east, from the west and all that heavy that in from heavy rain that sweeps in from the from time to time. The atlantic from time to time. And we vulnerable to and so we are vulnerable to different of weather in different sorts of weather in this its always this country. Its always been like that. Twas ever thus and its going to be like that again. Keeping our again. So you know, keeping our feet on the ground, which i think we need to do. Weve got a hot spell at the moment. It is fantastic, but from wednesday onwards, going to onwards, everything is going to go you might say pear go belly up. You might say pear shaped and were going to be looking wind, flooding looking at wind, rain, flooding across the country across many parts of the country. Going to continue. And thats going to continue for ten days. So extremely for about ten days. So extremely unsettled weather to come once we get past wednesday. Some of that in scotland coming our that rain in scotland coming our way, afraid, from wednesday i thanks so much for that. Thanks so much for that. About putting a damper on it. No, not at all. Its all right. I know its your job, but i know its yourjob, but i was wondering why. Why there is such a distinctive north south divide when it comes to the weather in this country. We feel so rotten sitting here in london. Looking fonnard to a, you know, afternoon in the garden when in scotland, its theres going to be such a deluge that its affect deluge that its going to affect Train Services. Why is there such a distinct north south divide . Well it is true. Divide . Well it is true. And it isnt always in the same place. Obviously, at the moment it is covering a large part of northern uk and its been that way for most of the week its been raining week actually. Its been raining heavily across Northern England as well northern so as well and northern ireland. So its but its not just scotland, but it is actually moving further north. And the reason is, of course jet stream flexes course that jet stream flexes its vacillating its muscles. Its vacillating all stream all the time. The jet stream dominates, is going dominates, our weather is going to behave. It depends on where the pressure the low the High Pressure and the low pressure are going to pressure systems are going to develop. The stream at develop. So the jet stream at the moment sitting right the moment is sitting right across northern half of the across the northern half of the uk. Its always move. Uk. Its always on the move. It it zonal , it uk. Its always on the move. It it zonal, it can be zonal or it can zonal, it can be zonal or it can zonal, it can be zonal or it can zonal, it can be zonal or it can block and thats what we get in the winter sometimes or even in the summer as well, when the jet stream decides block, the jet stream decides to block, it that everything it means to say that everything becomes concentrar dated on our part the nothing moves part of the world. Nothing moves in east or from the in from the east or from the west. And thats when we get these areas either west. And thats when we get thesncold areas either west. And thats when we get thesncold and areas either west. And thats when we get thesncold and areasweather. R very cold and foggy weather. Maybe winter and in the maybe in the winter and in the summer, last summer, of summer, like last summer, of course, get 40 course, when we did get 40 degrees, everything became blocked and we just became part of Southern Europe , of much of Southern Europe, really. Became extremely really. We just became extremely hot. Jet blocks hot. So the jet stream blocks our weather the atlantic, our weather from the atlantic, but block is disappearing. But that block is disappearing. The jet stream is going to move further from further south. As i say, from wednesday. So the floodgates further south. As i say, from wetopening so the floodgates further south. As i say, from wetopening literally he floodgates further south. As i say, from wetopening literally. E floodgates are opening literally. So, john, a lot of people have been getting in touch with us at gb news this morning talking about the weather historically, how it always seemed crisp, cold seemed that we had crisp, cold winters beautiful snow. So winters with beautiful snow. So i remember that as a kid. I dont remember that as a kid. In i remember in 70s, in fact, i remember in the 70s, never the radio times, never mind. And the radio times, the radio times predicted thered be another ice age. I think might i think i think john might have lost our sound again. Well see if we can sort that out. But thats something were thats something that we were asking whether its asking you about is whether its just my memory playing tricks on me or whether when i was a kid, the weather was much more reliable for longer. Your parents took you on holiday. I parents took you on holiday. I mean, you didnt use to go abroad that much. Your parents took you on holiday in a caravan somewhere bleak. But actually, you knew you could rely on sunshine and a warm sea. I seem sunshine and a warm sea. I seem to remember for several weeks on end and where nowadays it seems that you only get good for weather a couple of days. I wonder. And then it all changes. Just as john was saying, its going to do. I wonder, though, ann, if thats if thats selective memory and the reason i say that is because, you know, the human mind shields us from trauma. I remember many times mince skegness inside skegness and huddled inside a caravan hearing pounding caravan hearing the pounding rain tin roof. Rain on the tin roof. Yes, i do remember well, yes, i do remember a couple of times like that. But then if you look back through your old family albums , there your old family albums, there are so many pictures of us just playing in the sea and building sandcastles on what looked like a lovely , hot, sunny a really lovely, hot, sunny beach. A really lovely, hot, sunny beach. I dont know, was the beach. I dont know, was the weather more reliable in the olden days . Actually, several people have got in touch and said, yeah, like a lot of things, it was better years ago. Tend to agree. I think youre right. Its an age thing. But yeah, beautiful dependable winters seems that winters and it seems to me that summer never ending. Maybe summer was never ending. Maybe thats romantic. Thats just a romantic. Might just be yeah, it might just be wistful. Yeah, it might just be wis look back. Look back. Look back. Anyway, your ideas anyway, do keep your ideas coming wont you . Coming in, wont you . Vaiews gbnews. Com. Youre vaiews gbnews. Com. What . Youre going to do this afternoon. Given that if you live in particularly the more southern areas, its going to be sunny, its going to be hot. What are you going to do this afternoon that wouldnt have thought you going to do this afternoon thatwere wouldnt have thought you going to do this afternoon thatwere going1t have thought you going to do this afternoon thatwere going to have thought you going to do this afternoon thatwere going to do e thought you going to do this afternoon thatwere going to do on hought you going to do this afternoon thatwere going to do on an ght you were going to do on an october afternoon . I think its time for a shirt off by off lawn mow, followed by a barbie a couple of cold barbie and a couple of cold tins. Some pictures for us take some pictures for us because then well look through your pictures. Maybe tomorrow morning shirt morning of mine with my shirt off. No, not particularly. Off. Well no, not particularly. You shirt off, but your you in your shirt off, but your garden. I was thinking. All right, well do mowing the lawn knotted handkerchief on your yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Old school. Lets have yeah, exactly. 1looki school. Lets have yeah, exactly. 1 look now ool. Lets have yeah, exactly. 1 look now at. Lets have yeah, exactly. 1 look now at some lets have yeah, exactly. 1 look now at some ofets have yeah, exactly. 1 look now at some of the have yeah, exactly. 1 look now at some of the other a look now at some of the other stories coming into the newsroom on gb news this morning. Uk is on course to well, the uk is on course to see its biggest rise in at see its biggest tax rise in at least years as a result of least 50 years as a result of the freeze on personal thresholds soaring thresholds and soaring inflation. To new inflation. According to new analysis the resolution analysis by the Resolution Foundation, tax payers are set to hand over £40 billion a year by 2028, and thats up from a forecast of 30 billion at the time of jeremy hunts budget in march. It comes as mr hunt ruled out sizeable tax cuts, of course, this year amid tory calls for pre election giveaway at the conservative Party Conference and northern and southern parts of the uk will continue to see a contrast in weather this weekend. Weather this weekend. As weve just been discussing with High Temperatures and torrential rainfall affecting different areas , the met Office Different areas, the met office hasissued different areas, the met office has issued both amber and yellow rain warnings for large parts of scotland and Northern England through to tomorrow morning. Train services in scotland are expected to be disrupted, with some operators warning passengers not to bother travelling. Travelling. Rishi sunak has said he hopes tensions between canada and india will de escalate after a diplomat row over the killing of a sikh separatist leader last month. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in parliament that there were credible allegations that india was involved in that death and in retaliation to the comments india told canada that 41 of their diplomats would be removed from the country. Its just from the country. Its just coming up to 8 12 and back to one of the big stories this morning following sir Keir Starmers claim that labour blew the doors off thursday scottish by election where does this leave now . The snp labours Michael Shanks won 58. 5 of the vote in the latest by election in scotland, with a larger than expected swing a whopping 20. 4. As they indicated, though , as they indicated, though, that the snps dream of independence has died. Reporter Tamsin Roberts takes a look at the background of labours newest scottish mp. Michael shanks. Michael shanks. Meet labours newest scottish mp, mike shanks, who won more than 50 of the vote to take the rutherglen and Hamilton West by election, putting a smile on his bosss face who hope its a sign of things to come at the general election. Ive been determined from the moment i took over as leader of the labour party to take us from one of the worst defeats since the 1930 to us a general the 1930 for to us a general election victory. And thats why election victory. And thats why weve worked so hard to change the party. Ive always the labour party. Ive always said the route to that general election runs through scotland and that is because i know how strongly so many people in scotland want change. It feels incredible to represent the community that i live in. The community that i love, but also i do feel the responsibility of thousands of people that have put their trust in me. This is the absolutely extraordinary result, a seismic result. And i think this will send shockwaves through the snp. But what else do we know about the 35 year old teacher turned politician ian . Well, hes hit the hes previously hit the headunes hes previously hit the headlines away from world of headlines away from the world of politics running all politics for running all of glasgow 6000 streets, he took on this incredible challenge at the beginning of the first covid lockdown as a way of making the most of his daily exercise. But does he have any experience of politics . Well, kind of. Hes unsexy. He stood for election unsexy. He stood for election before three times. Between 2012 before three times. Between 2012 and 2017, when he also quit the labour party on the day of the 2019 general election in protest at the partys stance on brexit. And he continues to have different opinions to the labour leader, particularly , it seems, leader, particularly, it seems, over a potential plan to re engage, if not rejoin , in the re engage, if not rejoin, in the European Union. Thames ian roberts gb news and earlier our reporter tony mcguire spoke to some of the local people in that seat and asked them if they believe there is still a chance for Scottish Independence. For Scottish Independence. No, i dont think so. No, i dont think so. No, i dont think so. And why is that . And why is that . Dont. No. Good there. No good. I hope its dead. Its i hope its dead. Its fingers. Fingers crossed. But i think theres bigger issues to sort out than independence. I think its dead. Well, ive not heard much about it now. It used to be all over the news, but you dont hearit over the news, but you dont hear it now. Hopefully it would be a we would vote for independence. I dont support independence. So i voted for the labour candidate. Candidate. It did used to be all over the news, didnt it . Yeah, actually, funnily enough, youve beenin actually, funnily enough, youve been in touch with your views and theyre very different. Billy says. Us scots still very much want independence, but what the english dont understand is the english dont understand is the divide in this. Its not just through politics, but also very much through religion. Yeah, and with more evidence of that divide, j has strong words, says the snp has brought scotland down to status of a scotland down to the status of a third world country. Third world country. John says independence died in 2014. Humza and co have proved to be hopeless at delivering across all areas that are that are devolved and an is saying the dream of Scottish Independence wouldnt be a dream but a nightmare. And keith says the snp are complete disaster where theyve done nothing to help improve scotland. As for help or improve scotland. As for independence , that will never independence, that will never happen. Wow differing differing views split, right down the middle there. And joining us now our and joining us now is our deputy Political Editor, tom hall to discuss this and more. And fonnard to the and also a look fonnard to the labour conference, which labour Party Conference, which kicks off tomorrow. Tom, first of very divided on of all, people very divided on the of independence , but the topic of independence, but on the streets of the constituency , people seem to constituency, people seem to think this is a dying dream. Its withering on the vine , no doubt. And indeed weve seen with the actual ization of the labour partys polling in scotland really what has been considered for some time. This was the first genuine, large electoral test to test the lay of the land. The way that things are going, weve seen a lot of evidence in the polls that the labour party had been rising up , that support for the snp had been falling down and indeed support for separatism , support for separatism, independence, whatever you want to call it , independence, whatever you want to call it, had been drifting down. But now weve got a pretty clear indication that that is a reality and not just a mirage. Reality and notjust a mirage. If these results were to be reflected across the country, the snp could lose dozens of seats and that would really take the wind out of the sails of a movement that really has been stuttering ever since the scandal involving a missing £600,000 for independence funds. The arrest and then release of three senior figures within the snp , including the former first snp, including the former first minister, Nicola Sturgeon , and minister, Nicola Sturgeon, and of course all of the scandal that surrounds that. Its clear that surrounds that. Its clear that surrounds that. Its clear that the main party that has been pushing the independence line in scotland has been having a big, big , line in scotland has been having a big, big, big time of turmoil. And given that they are just about the leading the primary, the ovennhelming voice behind that movement, when the snp does poorly, the Independence Movement does poorly. Movement does poorly. Yeah, i mean they always say, dont they . A week is a long time in politics and already were seeing politics change with probably what a year or maybe even less than year till maybe even less than a year till the election. Now so the general election. Now so just for the sake of people who are listening to you on the radio, youre standing outside what is obviously the location for the reform Party Conference. This is Party Conference season and the reform party is going to be holding its conference there behind you. I think today. Nigel farage, of course , who was sort farage, of course, who was sort of one of the founder members, if not the founder of it, will be in with us a bit later on. One wonders when he went down so well at the tory Party Conference, whether had he known he would be so popular with the tories, whether he would have gone ahead with that Conference Today. Today. Well, it is interesting , of well, it is interesting, of course, nigel farage, the honorary president of the reform party , hell be speaking here party, hell be speaking here a little bit later and of course, speaking to gb news as well. But he is a rock star wherever he tends to go, although i have to say in manchester at that concert , lviv manchester at that concert, lviv Party Conference, he was showing a bit of leg to the party faithful, but not quite saying he would want to rejoin the conservative party. It was of course, his first conservative Party Conference since the late 19805. Party Conference Since the late 1980s. But here today its the reform Party Conference, and the reform Party Conference, and the reform Party Conference, and the reform party is a very interesting political. Party. Of interesting political. Party. Of course, the successor movement to the brexit party. But doesnt quite have the same name recognition that the brexit party has. And its been bubbung party has. And its been bubbling along at around 8 in the polls. Thats a definite rise from where it was around six months ago. But eagle eyed viewers might have noticed a change in the partys logo. So change in the partys logo. So just today, if i take a step back and look at the logo behind me, it says is reform uk. But underneath that logo now it also says the words the brexit party and im told that if there are polls that are done, reform uk polls that are done, reform uk polls substantially lower than a hypothetic eagle brexit party party. And so adding the words the brexit party to the reform uk logo might be a significant step in raising that name recognition option and potentially driving a higher vote for this party than it othennise would have. Othennise would have. Should have not bothered changing the name in the first place. But looking ahead to the labour Party Conference of course kicks off tomorrow in liverpool. Its on the front page of a lot of todays newspapers. A social housing revolution and wes streeting also talking of the nhs must adapt or die. Does he mean a part privatised version . Part privatised version . Its interesting. This is what wes streeting has been saying for quite some time. Hes someone seen to be on the right of the labour party. He hasnt been afraid, hasnt been squeamish about using the sort of blairite idea of bringing in private capacity to the health care system, although still funded through taxation. And he funded through taxation. And he has spoken before about using greater private provision and talking about ways in which the efficiency of the service could be increased. And frankly, in ways that the conservative party is still squeamish about. So it will be interesting to see the detail there because the watchword, i believe, for liverpool over the next 4 or 5 daysis liverpool over the next 4 or 5 days is detail. Weve heard a lot from the labour party about how they have been talking about how they have been talking about how poorly the government has been doing in their view, but we havent heard much about the meat on the bones of their own policy positions and to some extent thats borne a lot of fruit electorally for the labour party. Theyve been able to sort of win by default, but clearly now they believe that with perhaps less than a year left to go until the next general election, its time to put some some real policy detail out there, not just on health, but specific hinckley. Perhaps the biggest thing we will learn is about their amorphous housing policy. There seems to be a bit of a tension within the labour party between those who want to focus on social subsidies for housing and those who want to focus on planning reform, building market rate housing to bnng building market rate housing to bring the overall housing crisis back under control. It will be back under control. It will be interesting to see whose vision wins out or whether there will be as the i newspaper this morning indicates, a sort of hybnd morning indicates, a sort of hybrid where planning reform is delivered. Lots of houses are delivered. Lots of houses are built using the private sector, but they are taxed and using that tax money, social housing is built too. Itll be interesting to see if that is borne out in reality. Borne out in reality. Yes, itll be very interesting to pick at the meat on the bones of that. If they give us that and whether or not theres prospect of council theres any prospect of Council Housing returning. Do you think. Think, tom, think weve lost. Sorry. Sorry. Was that to me . Yes was that to me . Yes no, it was to you . Yes. Sorry tom. Yeah, i was just wondering, you know, whether i even dared mention that phrase. Council housing. Do you think that could ever back . Hm . I dont ever come back . Hm . I dont think so. Weve seen a rebranding of Council Housing into Housing Association ones, into social housing, into various forms of subsidised housing, and i think thats what Angela Rayner has been talking about with the guardian morning. And i guardian this morning. And i think its more likely that we will see a higher quotas for subsidised housing in developments and sort of dotted around rather than the large sort of Council Estates of old tom hannood. Thank you. We just didnt want the interview to end. It was so good we came back to you for more. Thanks for joining was so good we came back to you for more. Thanks forjoining us for more. Thanks for joining us on the show this morning. Youll be there throughout the day be there live throughout the day at party. At the reform party. Thats right. Well, thats right. Well, thats right. There is so much i mean, there is so much politics to talk about, but as we nigel farage be we said, nigel farage will be coming into breakfast in about an hours time. And i was just wondering, like wondering, what would you like to ask him . Gb views views at gbnews. Com. Get in touch now. Gbnews. Com. Get in touch now. What would you like to put to nigel farage at the moment . Do you think he should go back into the party fold . I mean, the tory party fold . I mean, rishi sunak sort of said he wouldnt rule it out, didnt he . Thats right. I think nigel is saying no, i dont think id go back in yet. But why stay with reform when he could be more influential inside the tory fold . There are so many questions to put to nigel at the moment. What would you like to ask him . Keep those questions coming in. This is it. This gbviews gbnews. Com is it. This gbviews gbnews. Com is your chance to ask him a question almost directly. Question almost directly. Your chance to barrage the farage get in touch. Yes, absolutely. Right now yes, absolutely. Right now lets find out more about the weather. Hello there. Very good morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey. Who with your latest gb news Weather Forecast provided by the met office. Certainly a different feeling day for those in north. Those in the in the north. To those in the south, pressure pushing in the north. To those in the so from pressure pushing in the north. To those in the so from continental pushing in the north. To those in the so from continental europe,|ing in from continental europe, importing heat for southern areas. But this trailing frontal system going providing system is going to be providing very persistent rain very heavy and persistent rain across much of scotland throughout the day. There is an amber warning force amber weather warning in force with and disruption to with flooding and disruption to transport likely in place, says the potential for a months worth of rainfall to fall in some locations and may even lead to some shallow landslides. So do take care for northern ireland, wales and england are largely dry day. Some hazy sunshine around at times, temperatures climbing towards 23 c in the southeast where wed normally be around 16 degrees at this time of year. The rain this time of the year. The rain will continue, though, across scotland as we head over night. Again, heavy pulses around again, some heavy pulses around at times. Areas generally at times. Other areas generally staying but well start to staying dry. But well start to see cloud into eastern see some cloud push into eastern areas england overnight. Areas of england overnight. Turning murkier turning a little bit murkier here. Us, though , seeing here. Most of us, though, seeing temperatures up around temperatures hot up around 12 to 13 c. So a fairly mild start to sunday. The rain across scotland will gradually push its way northwards during the day on sunday. Still some heavy forces for aberdeenshire. The highlands to begin with and then eventually into the Northern Isles cloud and the isles later on the cloud and the east be a bit stubborn to east will be a bit stubborn to clear throughout the morning, but some but into the afternoon some brighter develop. But into the afternoon some brig iter develop. But into the afternoon some brig it will develop. But into the afternoon some brig it will be develop. But into the afternoon some brig it will be wales develop. But into the afternoon some brig it will be wales southwest but it will be wales southwest england that the best of england that sees the best of the on sunday. The sunshine on sunday. Temperatures, again temperatures, though, again climbing 25 c in parts climbing towards 25 c in parts of enjoy day by by right. Do stick with us. Coming up, were going to be taking a look back at what young voters had to say about rishi sunaks speech. Youre its just coming up to 8 30 now. Were thinking of the weather and yet again, were getting all sorts of crossed lines coming in. Marion says, i live in a village near northampton, which is definitely in the midlands, and our forecast for the next two days is cloudy temperatures only is cloudy with temperatures only up as well. I have up to 22 degrees as well. I have to say, ive just checked and youre going up to. Yeah, youre going to degrees, but its going up to 22 degrees, but its absolute bright sunshine. It saysin absolute bright sunshine. It says in our bbc weather report, a fascinating morning because because even when were saying theres going to be amazing weather in october, people say, no, theres not. Got it all wrong. Yeah. You got it all wrong. Yeah. You got it all wrong. Yeah. Fake yeah fake news. Yeah fake news. Yeah to be more youve got to be more optimistic. David says in scotland we dont many scotland we dont get many heatwaves. Todays forecast is for heavy rain. No surprises there. Sorry. What there. Im sorry. Thats what weve saying morning. Weve been saying all morning. Yeah, worst yeah, youre getting the worst of and dave in london, weve and dave in london, weve been lot about was the been talking a lot about was the weather or least weather better or at least different or defined when different or more defined when we kids . We all think it we were kids . We all think it was. Maybe collective was. Maybe its collective amnesia. London says amnesia. Dave in london says this i approach 60 years of this as i approach 60 years of age, back and we age, i look back and we definitely four distinct definitely had four distinct seasons winters seasons with cold winters warm and occasionally hot summers and wet springs and autumns. Now we have permanent spring and autumn with two weeks of summer and two weeks of winter. Yeah if youre lucky. Yeah. Carol in lincolnshire says, i believe at my age of 65, we lived through the best we have lived through the best this country has to offer, including the weather. Oh, chin up, carol. Its not as bad as that. No lets hope not. Anyway, its great to be with you this morning. Lets be optimistic if we possibly can. Now of the stories weve now one of the stories weve discussed young discussed this week is young voters what theyre going to voters and what theyre going to do, particularly first time voters, obviously, with an election looming over us next yean election looming over us next year, very first year, will be the very first time young may to time young people may get to vote. How this affect them vote. How does this affect them and influencing them . And what is influencing them . Yeah, and heres what some prospective voters to say prospective voters had to say about rishi sunak speech. About rishi sunak speech. There was one section where he was sort of just going off on a little rant by himself. This conservative party, the party that legislated for same sex marriage and is investing record amounts in child care. We record amounts in child care. We know that what matters is that love cascades down the generations. Love cascading down your family like just yeah, thats just a really weird way, flowery way of saying something which i dont. Thats another thing. I dont. Thats another thing. I dont think he actually got to a point with that. I think it was a bit cringe here and there, like some things he said. I feel like he was making statements where he felt like, oh, this is like a really good statement. But it wasnt giving that. I think he tried quite hard to impress all the people in the conference under us. No more rip off degrees stuff. Students dont spend enough time in the classroom. A quarter of our children leave education without the basic literacy and numeracy. They need to fulfil numeracy. They need to fulfil their potential. And our their potential. And our students study too narrow a range of subjects. Yeah so that that really annoys me. Yeah. Yeah. I think gcses are really good because it teaches us how to study a broad range of subjects and it gets us into certain a lot of Different Things which we might be interested in and obviously things that we might not be interested in. But think once interested in. But i think once youre a levels, its a lot more personal thats your thats personal and thats your thats actually your first steps towards or an towards university or an apprenticeship or Something Like that. Everything i learnt up until i was 16in terms of maths is all i was 16in terms of maths is all ineeded i was 16in terms of maths is all i needed know. I dont need i needed to know. I dont need any more numeracy im any more numeracy skills. Im happy skills. Happy with the skills. Got those who teach key ive got those who teach key subjects school and for the subjects in school and for the first time im in our further education colleges to you will receive special bonus fees of up to £30,000 tax free over the first five years of their career. You know, this whole bonus thing for teachers is incredible. I think teachers are like the best people ever, and i think they deserve all the money in they deserve all the money in the world. But i think if youre only offering that money to teachers are teaching teachers that are teaching essential facts, it will essential subject facts, it will put teachers from teaching put teachers off from teaching the artistic subjects i patients should know when hospitals are talking about men or women, and we shouldnt get bullied into believing that people can any sex they want people can be any sex they want to be. They cant. Not a people can be any sex they want to be. They cant. Not a man is a man and a woman is a woman. Thats common sense. Hes thats just common sense. Hes got sex and gender completely mixed up with gender. Its your social identity. Let people express themselves however they feel like they want to be. What this lacks is compassion. This lacks is compassion. Smoking places huge pressures on the nhs and costs our country £70 billion a year as we have a chance to cut cancer deaths by a quarter , significantly ease quarter, significantly ease those pressures and protect our children. And we should take it. Hes right in saying, you know, we need to stop it. But know, we need to stop it. But like the cause of , you know, like the cause of, you know, kids and stuff isnt cigarettes. Its definitely the cigarettes is vaping, especially around like a university campus, like youll go just around and see everyone just having a vape instead of cigarettes. Instead of cigarettes. Now, smoking has been a very big problem in the past, but its not that prevalent anymore i i i mean the marketing for it as well is ridiculous. They come out with new flavours like unicorn shake and vapes that look like ice creams, and its just its blatantly made for teenagers. So do you still vape a lot then . Yeah, in the long term, i think it is a good thing that were phasing out smoking and that yeah, he has the right idea. I just im not really sure raising the age gap. What would you say is a better solution then . Better solution then . No idea. Thats for them to figure out. Im not for me. I dont know about you, but i was really impressed with them. I really was. I hope theyre i really was. I hope theyre excited at the prospect of the first time theyre going to be able to vote because theyre obviously really thinking it through. You what, through. I tell you what, theres another report talking about report about vaping. Theres a report in papers today saying that some young people in secondary schools are really stressed out at the of not being able to at the idea of not being able to vape school because they vape in school because they dont feel they can get through a without vaping. A lesson without vaping. It. Get absurd. Get used to it. Get get to self control and get used to self control and weaning yourself off that stuff. Thats life. Thats life. You heard it here right . Lets talk to the chief executive officer and founder of the youth vote uk , alexander the youth vote uk, alexander cairns, whos here with us now. And youve been doing some polling amongst people that polling amongst the people that you are talking to as well. What are the that you know are the matters that you know that matter to them most morning . Both yeah. So when weve been talking to young people recently, weve been finding that actually they want to talk about housing and renting prices going you know, found going up. You know, we found that actually when asked what was the most important issues that actually when asked what wasyou, most important issues that actually when asked what wasyou, 70 important issues that actually when asked what wasyou, 70 ofnportant issues that actually when asked what wasyou, 70 of young|t issues that actually when asked what wasyou, 70 of young people; for you, 70 of young people said theyre worried said that theyre really worried about mortgage theyre about mortgage prices. Theyre worried rent prices worried about their rent prices going closely going up. It was kind of closely followed that said, you followed by 15. That said, you utility bills, food bills , just utility bills, food bills, just general like cost of living. So i think those are the main things that theyre theyre concerned yeah, yeah. Concerned about. Yeah, yeah. Thats what they i suppose thats what they also their parents are also hear their parents are getting very, upset about. Getting very, very upset about. But you also asked about but you also asked them about this forced to do this idea of being forced to do engush this idea of being forced to do english maths what do english and maths to 18. What do they of that. They think of that. Yeah. Yeah. Not not keen. So i think when we polled them, 60 said theyre really not happy about scrapping traditional a levels. And you know, of mandatory know, the kind of mandatory engush know, the kind of mandatory english maths. I think english and maths. I think we find a of young people find that a lot of young people make up their minds early make up their minds quite early on good at english on if theyre good at english and maths. I think a lot of them find at gcse they get find that at gcse level they get to i suppose a standard where to a i suppose a standard where they its enough for them they think its enough for them and they on, they think and then they go on, they think its over. Its all over. Dont you think i can give it up . Well, no, exactly. And actually, you know, i found in my working career and i think a lot other people find lot of other young people find that if you can get to that actually if you can get to a gcse, say a c or b grade or if engush a gcse, say a c or b grade or if english and maths, the a levels of english and maths are a lot more advance, go into more detail in advance, go into a detail. And actually a lot more detail. And actually i dont think its needed actually. That actually. You find that most people, into an people, when going into an interview, as long as theyve got c gcse english and got a c in gcse english and maths, i think fine. And maths, i think its fine. And actually rishi sunak actually i think rishi sunak background in banking, background of being in banking, hes very keen to get people to a advanced standard in a really advanced standard in maths, young people maths, but a lot of young people might different might go into a different profession dont think you profession and i dont think you can force him to do english and maths lot of people are maths to 90. A lot of people are not keen on yeah. Alex the not keen on that. Yeah. Alex the kids want to vape more, they want less work. Want to do less work. Me shocked but 1 1 colour me shocked but 1 1 thing that older people sort of are about are exasperated about about younger this i Younger Voters is this kind of i guess the word is woke. So they found it very cringeworthy. The difference gender and difference between gender and sex, is quite clear, sex, which to us is quite clear, you know, youre a man or a woman rishi said, that went woman as rishi said, that went down badly. Thats my first down very badly. Thats my first point. If point. The second one is if theyre so concerned about getting housing ladder, getting on the housing ladder, why also typically why are they also typically be quite idea of quite accepting of the idea of uncontrolled immigration and open which itself open borders, which in itself directly impacts their ability to be able to get a house due to over over demand . So what is there is the kind of Political Correctness of youth getting in the way of their actual life expectations is what im saying i no, no, i dont think so. I think young people are just more empathetic maybe when it comes to immigration and potentially their older counterparts. I think young people at their think young people look at their area. Mean, londons a good area. I mean, londons a good example. They lot of example. They see a lot of developments going up. Know, developments going up. You know, foreign and foreign buyers coming in and buying those properties buying lots of those properties. I dont they see any. I dont think they see any immigrants into you know, immigrants coming into you know, i you immigrants coming into you know, i see you immigrants coming into you know, i see any you immigrants coming into you know, i see any immigrants you immigrants coming into you know, i see any immigrants buying dont see any immigrants buying half million in half £1 million two beds in richmond and twickenham. I think a young are a lot of young people are frustrated are frustrated that there are private developers lots private developers buying lots of that building homes of land that are building homes that affordable them. That arent affordable for them. So absolutely, you they so absolutely, you know, they are frustrated because the government theres nothing. Rishi speech all about rishi sunak speech at all about helping get onto helping young people get onto the ladder and they the housing ladder and they help to a lot of people to buy scheme. A lot of people dont at detail they dont look at the detail they help scheme actually gets help to buy scheme actually gets them lot debt because them into a lot of debt because you know even though you only have to say, a 5 deposit have to have say, a 5 deposit once the of mortgage, once the rest of the mortgage, it comes extra cost, extra it comes with extra cost, extra interest actually its Interest Rates. So actually its not about Political Correctness. I think theyre just really frustrating. So very quickly, so very, very quickly, are they more likely to vote labour . Is whats well, this is whats interesting, actually. Found interesting, actually. We found that are still that 34 of them are still unsure going to unsure how theyre going to vote. Thats a big problem vote. And thats a big problem for labour for i think labour needs a lot detailed. Needs to be a lot more detailed. I strategy, which i think the strategy, which i dont think is going to work long term, is keir starmer has been back the been sitting back letting the tory party implode and fine in the term, longer the short term, but longer term young know what young people want to know what their is on hs2, what their stance is on hs2, what their stance is on hs2, what their stance is on hs2, what their stance is on on tuition fees, so labour needs fees, housing. So labour needs to detailed not just take to be detailed and notjust take the peoples vote the young peoples vote for granted. Cairns superb. The young peoples vote for gra thanks. Cairns superb. The young peoples vote for gra thanks. Yoursns superb. The young peoples vote for gra thanks. Yoursns course, the thanks. Yours of course, the huge challenge getting young huge challenge is getting young people to go and vote in the first place. Great to see first place. Its great to see them engaged, but them politically engaged, but they moan about old people hijacking the country, but theyre least to go theyre the least likely to go out get well, not if keir out and get well, not if keir starmer says the right things to them. Lets see. Them. Well, lets see. Absolutely. Thank you. Them. Well, lets see. Okay, utely. Thank you. Them. Well, lets see. Okay, now. Thank you. Them. Well, lets see. Okay, now itsank you. Them. Well, lets see. Okay, now its timeou. Them. Well, lets see. Okay, now its time to go through the sports. Always. Here is course, is Chris Skudder. And of course, the story today is the rugby the big story today is the Rugby World Cup what we got world cup squads. What we got morning. Both yeah. Whos going through quarterfinals . Through to the quarterfinals . The england. We the Rugby World Cup. England. We know are going wales, the Rugby World Cup. England. We kno going going wales, the Rugby World Cup. England. We kno going through wales, the Rugby World Cup. England. We kno going through a wales, the Rugby World Cup. England. We knogoing through a big wales, the Rugby World Cup. England. We knogoing through a big onees, are going through a big one today for scotland and ireland because those probably because one of those probably will were going to get will not be were going to get some players who have some views of players who have been there and done it. But yeah, its crunch time for the world cup now as we really get to the serious part of the tournament. Jordan murphy i think weve got from ireland who play the scots today, scotland is basically knock out rugby as jordan. Theyre no jordan at the moment, okay. At the moment. At the moment. Okay. Weve got dai ella whelan from wales and tom varndell, former england wing as well. I mean the pressures off for both england and wales really. Lets start with with , really. Lets start with with, with tom englands going into the tournament with a lot of pressure really because it was awful. But things have really turned around, havent they, tom . How ever going into the final game against samoa today in lille with interesting selections george ford at ten at fly half and owen farrell who a lot of people think is very crucial to england coming in in the centre. What do you make of that . Is it i mean, not sure of a settled line up at the moment, are they . I wouldnt say theyre not sure. I farrell, obviously sure. I mean farrell, obviously he to serve bit of a ban he had to serve a bit of a ban and having him back in the team, hes a leader. Its great. Its great for england. Um, and just great for england. Um, and just getting that combination with him and him and ford is really important. Important. Yeah. I mean, do you think a lot of people think that with george ford doing a lot of kicking that its going to be ugly stuff from england from here . Saw what here . Because we saw what happened against chile. They scored 11 tries. They scored what was 11 tries. They had young Henry Arundell the had young Henry Arundell on the wing they had wing scoring five. They had marcus fullback and marcus smith at fullback and everyone was going great, england going up england are going to open up now, doesnt look as now, but it doesnt look as though thats going to happen from does it look, i from here on in, does it look, i cant see it being that expansive game going fonnard into the knockout stages. The important thing um, look, the important thing is youre going to keep winning. You know, if they can add a bit more of that exciting in their play, thatd be fantastic bit more of that exciting in tllzir play, thatd be fantastic bit more of that exciting in tllzir pla today. d be fantastic bit more of that exciting in tllzir pla today the e fantastic bit more of that exciting in tllzir pla today the game astic bit more of that exciting in tllzir pla today the game will. I think today the game will open and i think we will see open up and i think we will see a different side of england. But when it gets to the quarterfinals, semi finals, hopefully england might hopefully final, england might tighten up and its about winning those games. Looking at yeah, just looking at pictures of france who beat italy, italy last italy, thrashed italy last night. The curious night. I mean, the curious thing for die and tom and for both of you die and tom and england are well out england and wales are well out of harms way much as of harms way in so much as france. South africa, new zealand and ireland are all on the other side the draw until the other side of the draw until the other side of the draw until the semi finals. So so which is great for England Wales with their quarterfinals to come. We their quarterfinals to come. We dont know whos playing who yet. Find weekend yet. Well find out this weekend. Ella whelan wales, georgia. Ella whelan wales, georgia. Georgia did a bit of damage to wales. 1312 was that last year . A couple of years ago. But thats not going to be repeated this weekend, is it . Yes. Well, good morning, guys. Yes, they did. Um, whats. Yes. Yes, they did. Um, whats very disappointing, but it was a different coaching setup there. Different coaching setup there. Um, they brought Warren Gatland back in and hes his own. He back in and hes his own. He brought his own team back in. And over the last six months, theyve generated a fitness levels again, great mental toughness. Yeah. And theyre looking sharp and they peak in. Yeah i mean like england i mean came in with, with low expectations really. But it has been easier isnt it . With all due respect, england and wales have had it fairly easy. Who would you die . Who would you rather play in the next round . Because i mean fiji have been the of x factor this the sort of x factor in this group, havent they . And they look could look as though they could do some damage traditional some damage to the traditional countries. You like to countries. Who would you like to play next . Well, quarter final. Play next . Well, quarterfinal. I well, a quarter final. I dont think it matters a dont think it matters really. A massive you know , so and massive games. You know, so and like like the gentleman just said then you know they wont be really open attacking rugby. Those close games dont have great tactical awareness. You have to have a great kicking game. And like every game, every game. And like every game, every game. And like every game, every game is one up front. You know , game is one up front. You know, good scrum, good lineout, good set piece, and then you can play off that. Okay. Just go back to tom okay. Just go back to tom quickly. How far can england go . I think people are expecting minimum semi finals. Really any further than that, do you think its the world cup and in the world cup so much you know theres so many Different Things that can happen. England have had a great, great group stage. Theyve really, really built and their performance has got better and better. Would love to see better. But i would love to see england get the semi final england get to the semi final and i think thats definitely possible. Yeah, it could a quarter yeah, it could be a quarter final against fiji. Thanks guys. Enjoy the day today. It could be both for four wins and no losses for both clubs, for both teams. After the group stage. Thanks after the group stage. Thanks for joining us this morning. Forjoining us this morning. Just to guys scotland, just to say guys scotland, ireland is effectively knockout rugby thats a massive game today and whoever loses will probably be going home. Thank you Chris Skudder to tom and to die there for that egg chasing roundup. Okay coming egg chasing roundup. Okay coming up, the non binary loophole that has seen men gatecrash a womens tech conference. Well be discussing that and more in headune discussing that and more in headline makers. Thats. N ext next welcome back. Its 849. Youre watching a listen to breakfast with anne and martin. Uh, yeah. Joining to us go through some of the days headlines now, gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson. And former conservative advisor claire pearsall. And its lovely claire pearsall. And its lovely to see you both again. Right, to see you both again. Right, nigel . The has got to modernise or die. Who said it . This is west treating the Shadow Health secretary who will probably very soon be the Health Secretary he what he wants to do is double the number of scanners in hospitals. His point is that at the moment that the lifespan of a scanner, mri or ct is ten years and 1 in 5 hospitals hasnt had a replacement since the last time labour are in government , you know, so about government, you know, so about half, half, half of these scanners are out of out of time. And of course what hes saying is hes a walking case for says exactly that early for he says exactly that early diagnosis. Yes had his Kidney Cancer not been caught early , he may not be been caught early, he may not be around. He might not be around today. So obviously, its a way of getting waiting lists down, paid for by the non by abolishing non dom status. He reckons hed get £170 million out of that. I mean, no ones going to say this is a bad idea as long as you can afford it, its good. Well, we could say though, clare, that this is this is fiddling at the edges. We could say that a few scanners isnt the issue. We could say visiting tony blairs old its time to looking old mantra, its time to looking at least privatisation of at least part privatisation of the nhs. Will the labour party grasp that nettle . Grasp that nettle . And i think theyre going to be very, very uncomfortable to do so. And i mean, this isnt a bad thing looking at scanners, but youre right, it is sort of fiddling around the edges and what makes me laugh is this use of non dom status tax raid, of the non dom status tax raid, which i think labour have spent 2 or 3 times over. At which i think labour have spent 2 or 3 times over. At the which i think labour have spent 2 or 3 times over. At the very least, they theyre pledging to spend £171 million a year over the next parliament. Thats a lot of money to raise out of one tax, which theyve used somewhere else as well. So yes, i think they have to face up to the facts. They might have to privatise some and dont people that get heavily just move that get taxed heavily just move away the country . Do. Away from the country . They do. Theyll their away theyll take their money away with not never with them. So its not a never ending pot. Okay. Another story thats caught our attention dale, caught our attention here, dale, vince is of course, dale. Vince, of course , the founder the of course, the founder of the ecotricity over in stroud there. Hes been criticised in the past for donating £1. 5 million to the labour party. Now, he said the pot is dry. Why well, its not necessarily the pot is dry for labour, but i think it is the pot is dry for Just Stop Oil well now he is free obviously to donate to the Political Party of his choosing. And what hes going to do now is because the link with the labour party and Just Stop Oil has picked the has been picked up by the conservative party and quite rightly so, and being as an rightly so, and being used as an issue. He feels that it is a distraction and is now not distraction and he is now not going fund stop oil, but going to fund Just Stop Oil, but is to put his efforts is looking to put his efforts into just vote, which is a group, a platform, a Campaign Group, a platform, a Campaign Group to encourage younger people to vote. Now, weve we saw from your package earlier that i think young people are actually more engaged now than they ever have been. And my concern is because because he is a labour supporter and a labour donor , any institution , campaign donor, any institution, Campaign Group that he sets up is going to have a political bias. So just vote means just vote. So just vote means just vote. Labour is it . Labour is it . Thats what i take it to mean. Yeah. And i distinctly read a bit from a tory that basically nigel, how much of an issueis basically nigel, how much of an issue is this kind of link to Just Stop Oil going to be for keir starmer . He shares their, their stance on north sea oil. He wants to just stop north sea oil despite the fact we could become more energy sovereign is this net zero wedge issue weve now seen opened with rishi going to opened up with rishi going to become an issue for the labour party . Do think party . Or do you think theyll stand and no, the stand firm and say no, the future is renewables as well . I think that will stand i think that he will stand firm and say future firm and say the future is renewables. Mean, hes also renewables. I mean, hes also gone a few things, that gone back on a few things, that the was to spend £28 the idea was to spend £28 billion, pounds on making britain. He was talking britain green. He was talking about a new company , a state about a new company, a state owned company, Great British energy. All things are energy. Uh, all those things are now seemingly put back. I mean, you cant the money you cant borrow the money because rates are so because Interest Rates are so high, can understand it. High, so you can understand it. But yes, i mean, hes still determined to , uh, to go ahead determined to, uh, to go ahead and hit net zero. Is that attainable, claire . I mean, when one of the things that there has been a bit of a bounce for rishi on this wedge issue of when it comes down to affordable you have to affordable equity, you have to get new boiler, you have to get a new boiler, you have to get a new boiler, you have to get a new car, youre getting taxed to the hilt on net zero when its the pounds and the pence pocket and not the pence in the pocket and not the principle of all the prospect of net think has net zero. Do you think rishi has made move . Made the right move . And i think that i do. And i think that politics should about politics should be about bringing people along with you, not something upon them not forcing something upon them and and and telling them to do it and stuff the cost because its not quite as simple as that. Its not quite as simple as well, go and buy yourself an electric car right . Okay. Theyre very expensive. We dont have the grid infrastructure. We dont have charging have the charging infrastructure. And we have seen that the battery is not that the battery life is not great. Those problems great. So until those problems are sorted out, i think its inherently wrong to force people to change. But it is a very expensive way of doing something that people are already doing. I think that we do need to look at all alternative fuel. We need to look at solar, we need to look at wind and nuclear for a start. But those all come in with planning problems. So i think that its not wrong to look at Climate Change, but i think its quite wrong to force that cost upon people who are struggling currently. Meanwhile, before we run out of time, can we end on a lovely romantic note , the latest romantic note, the latest romantic note, the latest romantic note, the latest romantic note in the story of akshata and rishi sunak nigel, do you know about this . Yes, indeed. So so the Prime Minister has revealed that he first met her, took the first part he took took her to when they were dating , was to they were dating, was to a halloween party. And he was dressed as harry potter. So presumably, you know, he could carry off. Carry that off. Yeah, he really looks particularly after that, he took her game of quidditch. Her to a game of quidditch. We got a photograph of that. I would love to see a photograph if you think so. I think. I think. Here go. What have we got . Look. Oh, well, thats. Oh, well, thats. I think thats a bit of a mock up. Thats a mock up by the Sun Newspaper or something, isnt it . And clare, thank you it . Nigel and clare, thank you so joining us. Can so much forjoining us. Can i just that obviously its just say that obviously its party season the Party Conference season at the moment and were looking fonnard to labour one which starts to the labour one which starts tomorrow, is the tomorrow, but today is the conference uk conference of the reform uk party and in the next hour were to going joined by nigel to going be joined by nigel farage. If youve got a farage. Now if youve got a question, you would like us to put him, then do get in touch put to him, then do get in touch the usual way. The usual way. Vaiews gbnews. Com. What question would you like to put to nigel farage today . To nigel farage today . This is your chance to barrage the farage. Were back after this. This is. Gb news good morning. Its 9 00 on saturday, the 7th of october. These are the stories weve been covering for you this morning. You this morning. Have you noticed its turned much warmer recently . Apparently we are experiencing an october heatwave in the next few days after the labour party heralded yesterdays success in the by election as seism nick, today weve been asking is there still a chance for Scottish Independence at all because weve got issues to sort out than independence. I think it stayed well. Ive not heard much about it now. It used to be all over the news, but you dont hear it now and over stateside and new york Appeals Court temporarily halted Donald Trumps property dissolution amid his civil fraud case appeal. Case appeal. And still to come , thousands and still to come, thousands of motorcyclists will make their annual pilgrimage to the National Memorial arboretum in staffordshire as part of a special event. And well find special event. And well find out more about that in a few minutes. And of course, Jonathan Vautrey has your weather. Some of us will be seeing some very warm sunshine today. For others, though, theres heavy, persistent rainfall in the so do join me the forecast. So do join me later for all the details of what you can expect. Well its lovely to be with you. Im anne diamond. Im anne diamond. And im Martin Daubney. And this is breakfast on. Gb this is breakfast on. Gb news. Ooh, sorry about weve had quite a few people say were watching from the north and were really fed up with you talking about heat waves that were not going to get. Yeah, im sorry about that. Ive lost, actually. Yeah. People. People are getting in touch saying its touch about that, saying its okay southerners, but okay for you southerners, but what about us . Says. Any idea how jan says. Any idea how depressing it is to hear constantly throughout the programme, the programme, how lovely the weather the moment. Live weather is at the moment. I live in North Yorkshire and the skies are at the moment. Are grey at the moment. It. And daryl yeah, that is it. And daryl says its my 53rd birthday today. Happy birthday , daryl and says its my 53rd birthday tnshallhappy birthday , daryl and says its my 53rd birthday tnshall be py birthday , daryl and says its my 53rd birthday tnshall be taking. Hday , daryl and says its my 53rd birthday tnshall be taking in ay , daryl and says its my 53rd birthday tnshall be taking in the daryl and i shall be taking in the spectacular scenery, walking on the pennine way around holmfirth and marsden , calling into a few and marsden, calling into a few watering holes on the way around to sample some real ales. Daryl that sounds like a perfect good weather on the pennine way. Weather on the pennine way. It will be wonderful. It will be wonderful. Charles there, mate. Charles there, mate. Were talking about what we were talking about what winters summers like winters and summers were like when younger and when you were younger and whether were better. Whether they were better. Bob in sheffield says, my birthday is 23rd july and as child 23rd ofjuly and as a child i remembered it rained on all of my. Im 68 and joe was my birthdays. Im 68 and joe was pointing out were getting carried away with the weather being now. Being good now. July and august this year but july and august this year were of were without fear of contradiction. The worst summer months. No sun, just rain. Months ever. No sun, just rain. And oh, here we go. And oh, here we go. Diane in swansea says, in 1970 i was a butlins redcoat at clacton. In my memory is it clacton. In my memory is it rained for most of that season. We always talked about great weather when children sit their gcses. Thats true. Thats true. Gcses. Thats true. Thats true. I remember always having to sit exams when it was really hot and sunny outside. It seems so unfair. It seems so unfair. It seems so unfair. It was, i suppose weve always moaned about the weather really, havent we . The National Pastime . Pastime . Well, of course it is where wed be without. Were all about it. Yeah. Wonderful stuff. Okay, well, were talking about the weather, and talk about the weather and well talk about the weather right now, do apologise, right now, but i do apologise, guys, those you are guys, for those of you who are probably north probably just north of North Yorkshire, who are going to get torrential rain because, well, we thinking winters we might be thinking winters not quite because not here quite yet because those of in the south or south of of us in the south or south of North Yorkshire, we seem to be seeing as look at seeing it as well look at temperatures least 22 temperatures of at least 22 degrees for the next five days. Temperatures today yeah, temperatures today could reach 25 degrees and up to 27 degrees on sunday. Down south, making its unusually and unseasonably warm for an october i well, earlier we spoke to weather journalist nathan rao. Here is how he explained it. Here is how he explained it. This hot weather, the High Pressure thats causing this is going right across the country. So the south is going to get the warmest of the temperatures. This always happens when we get warm air coming up from the south. But really all of the uk is going to be warm apart from scotland and the very north over the next days, degrees is the next two days, 27 degrees is possibly temperature possibly the highest temperature well is well get tomorrow, which is very, unusual the very, very unusual because the average of year is average for this time of year is about at ten degrees. Well, of course the question will course the big question will be how is it . How unusual is it . Andy says he remembers an october 2011. It was just like this. Of course, the this. But of course, when the weathers like these days, weathers like this these days, everyone oh my god, everyone goes, oh my god, you know, its climate the know, its Climate Change, the end of world is nigh. Yeah. End of the world is nigh. Yeah. How this . And is it how unusual is this . And is it something should be concerned something we should be concerned about something should about or something we should just enjoy now . About or something we should jusiandy now . About or something we should jusiandy right, w . About or something we should jusiandy right, because in andy is right, because in 2011, on the 1st of october, we got 29. 9 degrees and that was the record. Now, in terms of why were getting this and is this something we should be worried about . And this is something were see more of. And were going to see more of. And then start very carefully then we start very carefully tiptoeing around this discussion of were of Climate Change. Were certainly more more certainly seeing more and more unusual weather but i am unusual weather events. But i am always very, very firm that. Always very, very firm on that. We separate these issues we have to separate these issues of weather and climate. Now, climate average of weather climate is an average of weather events taken over a period of time, and weather is an observation of things which happen immediately. Changes in wind direction, temperature, pressure, sort of pressure, all that sort of thing. And i think youve got to separate the because this is separate the two because this is where hysteria comes. Now, where the hysteria comes. Now, the climate is certainly changing and there is a link to say that the probability of unusual or extreme events, weather events, increases with the change in climate. So there is a link there, but i think it is a link there, but i think it is wrong and i think its unscientific to look at every single unusual weather event or extreme weather event. The heat waves Climate Change. Waves go. Thats Climate Change. Its it may have made its not. It may have been made more probable by Climate Change, but think to keep this but i think to keep this discussion on sensible and scientific, need to keep that scientific, we need to keep that distinction keep it distinction and keep it balanced. Yes, these things balanced. So, yes, these things could become more probable as we look climate going look at Climate Change going fonnard. But then again, they might happen. You cant get might not happen. You cant get away from the fact, though, that we breaking records we seem to be breaking records all with our all the time with our temperatures even this year. Temperatures and even this year. I mean, we had the hottest june on record. Weve had the beginning we saw beginning of september. We saw 30 days in 30 degrees for seven days in a row, which record. Weve row, which was a record. Weve had the hottest september, the joint, september joint, hottest september on record, miserable we had record, a miserable july. We had a july. Yes that a very miserable july. Yes that was was miserable. Was that was miserable. But overall seem be looking overall, we seem to be looking at and just the at records and not just in the uk, but if you remember a couple of were talking of months ago, we were talking about cerberus heatwave in about the cerberus heatwave in europe, which which was absolutely. Absolutely astonishing. Oh, sorry, was one thing oh, sorry, i was just wondering way we are just wondering if the way we are getting our temperatures is changing in that just remember changing in that i just remember and know whether its and i dont know whether its just im just because, you know, im looking through looking back through rose coloured specs , i seem to coloured specs, but i seem to remember that july august my remember that july and august my mum and dad to take us down mum and dad used to take us down to torquay or something on the south and you knew you south coast and you knew you were going get a week or two were going to get a week or two of really good baking weather and we get the high and now we get the High Temperatures, only get temperatures, but we only get them short spurts. And them in short spurts. Yes. And then horrible and then its horrible again. And then its horrible again. And then maybe you come along a bit later right, later and you say, all right, well do another five days of good its not like it good weather. Its not like it used to it isnt. Used to be. It isnt. Actually, this a very and actually, this is a very interesting discussion because not summer not like not only is the summer not like he used to be, the winter as he used to be, but the winter as well. I its the well. I mean, its now the beginning of october. And i always remember when i was at school for october school wrapping up for october and and being and bonfire night and being freezing youd always freezing cold and youd always get december. Now get snow in december. And now december much looking december is pretty much looking at temperatures every year around degrees. You know, at temperatures every year aroun alwaysgrees. You know, at temperatures every year aroun always lookingnu know, at temperatures every year aroun always looking for now, at temperatures every year aroun always looking for this were always looking for this White Christmas and cover this White Christmas and i cover this stuff year and every stuff every year and every christmas as christmas im looking at it as well. Recording well. And were recording temperatures of the teens and temperatures of in the teens and its very unusual. Then its all very unusual. And then we snow later on in we get the snow later on in january. There a definite january. So there is a definite change going on. You know, no one can that the weather is one can deny that the weather is changing. Now. The discussion is whether change whether thats a Climate Change manmade whether its a manmade thing or whether its a cyclical. Cyclical. Okay. Its been a busy week as rishi sunak was trying to reset the politics in his speech at the tory Party Conference in manchester. And labour says it has changed for the better after their win in the by election in rutherglen and Hamilton West in scotland, where they wiped out rutherglen and Hamilton West in scosnp , where they wiped out rutherglen and Hamilton West in scosnp. Where they wiped out rutherglen and Hamilton West in scosnp. Well, they wiped out rutherglen and Hamilton West in scosnp. Well, joiningiped out rutherglen and Hamilton West in scosnp. Well, joining usd out rutherglen and Hamilton West in scosnp. Well, joining us now rutherglen and Hamilton West in scosnp. Well, joining us now to the snp. Well, joining us now to digest all of these stories is our deputy Political Editor, tom hall. Well top of the morning, tom, lets start with action north the border. So keir north of the border. So keir starmer will be licking his lips at the seeming dissolution falling apart of the snp is the dream of independence withering on the vine . Well certainly sir on the vine . Well certainly sir keir starmer will be a happy man heading towards liverpool this morning, where of course hes increased the number of mps in his Parliamentary Party by one, doubung his Parliamentary Party by one, doubling his representation in scotland. And as you say, certainly moving towards a situation where the snps appears to be on the back foot. This was of course the First National electoral test of the snp since humza yousaf became the party leader north of the border and indeed since the scandal involving Nicola Sturgeon and two other senior individuals within the snp, all of whom were arrested and then released following questions and a police investigation. Operation branchform over this missing £600,000 earmarked for the fight for independence. Clearly this has had some electoral effect and if were to believe projections , ins and pollsters, projections, ins and pollsters, this could mean that the snp lose as many as 30 seats at the next general election. So tom, also keir starmer is due, i think, any minute in liverpool to arrive for the labour Party Conference. A lot of front pages today dominated by labour talking about a partial privatisation maybe of the health service. Wes streeting talking about that. Angela rayner talking about social housing, we were told yesterday by pat mcfadden to expect that policy rich in information. Can we expect some meat on the bone . Well finally the real keir starmer stand up. That certainly is the media intention , the projection that intention, the projection that the labour party would like to present over the next 4 or 5 days in liverpool. Days in liverpool. Clearly the criticism of this party has been that they have not been particularly forthcoming with policy. Theyve forthcoming with policy. Theyve been speaking about the rough areas that theyd like to see planning reform, but we havent seen the details of that planning reform. Theyve spoken about a new energy company, Great British energy. But again, Great British energy. But again, the details have been sparse. Perhaps this year is the year where were heading into a general election, perhaps even within the next 12 months when were going to be needing to see that detail. And we have heard in the papers this morning some hints towards that detail. As you mentioned , wes streeting, you mentioned, wes streeting, the Shadow Health secretary putting some more meat on the bones with regard to health care reform, although i think id stop short at describing it as a part. Privatisation wes streeti ng part. Privatisation wes streeting has said in the past he wants to use more private provision of Service Within the nhs in the same way that tony blair did. But of course still funded through general taxation, still free at the point of use. Its an area that of course is contentious and divides the left and the right of the labour party. But of course wes streeting has always painted himself in the mould of mr blair, so perhaps well hear more of that too. But of course housing will also be the other big issue how will they deliver their extra housing pledges that will be a big question. Okay, tom hannood, thank you for that update. For that update. Now , as youve probably now, as youve probably gathered, its Party Conference season. And today the reform uk Party Conference is about to take place here in london. Joining us now is the honorary president of the party, nigel farage. But why , i wonder, is he farage. But why, i wonder, is he bothering with his own Party Conference when he was clearly the toast of the tories . Just a few days ago with rock star like status, at least at certain fringe events and rishi sunak even sort of suggesting that he might welcome nigel back into the fold. Just have a look at these rock star scenes to show my mom. My mom. No problem. Are you enjoying it . Yes. Yes. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Great. No way. Its lovely. Great. No way. Its lovely. No, hes just going to just go. No, hes just going to just go. No, hes just going to just go. No no. So theyre all good. Nice no no. So theyre all good. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. To meet you. Nice to meet you. Would you mind just kind of taking a picture . Thank you so , taking a picture . Thank you so, how are you . All right. Weve got labour conservative forces who, frankly, are almost similar to each other. But i think this party, the conservative party, needs to work what it is. Work out what it is. Well, what did i say . Yeah, well, what did i say . Welcome to nigel farage. You obviously had a very good time at the conference. I did it was interesting. I was amazed to see so many young delegates at the conference and they were swarming around, you. I really was. I really was. I really was. I seem to be very popular with seems like they with them. It seems like they and some of the older delegates are rather like a lost tribe. Are rather like a lost tribe. They want to believe in a conservative party theyre not quite sure what it really stands for anymore. They dont really for anymore. They dont really know bothered to go. They bother to go. Theyre interested and to go. Theyre interested and they want to believe. And so all they want to believe. And so all of that was great. Did it surprise you the warmth of the response did surprise me because it wasnt only from the youngsters. Youre making that point now, but i happen to have seen you dancing with priti patel. Happen to have seen you dancing witiwell, patel. Happen to have seen you dancing witiwell, there. Bit of well, there was a bit of that. Yeah there was a bit of that, too. We have a look. It wasnt just. Whats so wasnt just. Thats whats so interesting. It wasnt just the youngsters their tik youngsters doing their tik tok type videos. A tremendous amount there was a tremendous amount of warmth there amongst, frankly, the tory faithful and some were some of the unfaithful who were clearly and you were very clearly and you were very clearly enjoying yourself, too. Clearly and you were very cle. Why njoying yourself, too. Clearly and you were very cle. Why did ing yourself, too. Clearly and you were very cle. Why did you yourself, too. Clearly and you were very cle. Why did you go . self, too. Why did you go . Why did you go . Well, i went with the gb news badge course, and i was badge of course, and i was broadcasting from there. Yeah. So you did do your programme from there . Yeah. Yeah, of course. But also hadnt been to tory also i hadnt been to a tory Party Conference for a very, very time. Very long time. The 80s, since the 80s. Yes. I was fascinated to go and meet the delegates. And what was was the real was interesting was the real energy on fringe. Most energy was on the fringe. Most of the speeches in the hall were pretty they were pretty. Yeah, they were pretty. Yeah, they were pretty. The chancellors i mean, the chancellors speech, mean, all pretty. Speech, i mean, its all pretty. Yeah. And rishi tried hard, but. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, not exactly great theatre. Its a party that knows theatre. Its a party that knows itll lose the next election when its a party that is already beginning to have a debate about where it goes after the next election. And whilst i was welcomed by delegates, i most certainly would not be welcomed by the conservative Parliamentary Party. Is that true . Mind you , why is that true . Mind you, why would you want to be welcomed back when, as youve just said, theyre going to lose . Well, firstly theyre going to lose. And secondly, i still think on some very major issues theyre in the wrong place. You know, think about the, you know, the average familys life, what worries them, you know, can their kids get a house of any kind at can their elderly kind at all . Can their elderly parents get a gp appointment when somethings wrong . Oh, were off to visit our cousins for sunday lunch. It used to for sunday lunch. It used to take an hour. We better allow two hours now, havent we . Not get there at all . Or not get there at all . Or not get there at all . Not get there at all. We or not get there at all. We are we are living the most are and we are living the most enormous elephant in the room of british politics is the level of legal migration into britain, legal migration into britain, legal migration into britain. This is an interesting now this is an interesting one because noticed earlier one because we noticed earlier that your reform uk that on your reform uk paraphernalia , youve actually paraphernalia, youve actually put in the word brexit again. Do you feel that that word now needs to belong to you again because because yes, tories have failed brexit. Yes. I mean, we lent it to them, we lent it to them on, on and maybe you gave it up too soon. Well there was an election and it was either Boris Johnson becoming Prime Minister or a liberal democrat. Jeremy corbyn coalition a second referendum and goodness knows what else. So you gave Boris Johnson the brexit ticket . Brexit ticket . Absolutely. And it was the right thing to do. It was it was it was the right thing to do at the time. Now, you look back on it. No, because i think a lot of people i mean, theres no question on on the world stage with brexit, we stand taller, whether the deal, whether its the aukus deal, whether its the aukus deal, whether leadership whether its leadership in ukraine. There whether its leadership in ukr millions there whether its leadership in ukr millions of there whether its leadership in ukr millions of people there whether its leadership in ukr millions of people who here whether its leadership in ukr millions of people who voted are millions of people who voted brexit actually brexit because they actually wanted numbers into wanted numbers coming into britain to go down. Theyve gone up. Betrayed. Up. They feel betrayed. Many small very Small Business people feel very , betrayed. So yes, very badly betrayed. So yes, we are reclaiming the word brexit. B rexit. Yes. Brexit. Yes. Because youve said many times now theyve failed to deliver brexit. Im afraid its not the sort of brexit you wanted. Certainly no. And its not the sort of brexit that i was. 17 Million People voted for. So there is great disappointment. Mean, great disappointment. I mean, look, know, an 80 seat look, you know, an 80 seat majority, know, majority, you know, Boris Johnson world his johnson had the world at his feet. There so much they feet. There was so much they could its been could do. And yet its been frankly just chaos. Now, reform uk with its conference isnt going to Conference Today isnt going to win the next election. No it isnt going to win the next election. But you must obviously feel that word brexit now hanging that the word brexit now hanging it back onto reform uk will improve chances just the improve your chances just by the recognition improve your chances just by the rectljnition improve your chances just by the rec i tell n improve your chances just by the rec i tell you whats amazing is i tell you whats amazing is that reform uk does not have a very high recognition. Youre right and we right about that and we understand that and recognise that. Not a great name, is it . Not a great name, is it . Everything needs well, everything needs reforming from the electoral system house lords to system to the house of lords to the health service. The National Health service. I mean, it mean, this is broken britain, it is in need of great reform. But despite that, its still running at 8 in the opinion polls, higher in some i its on course to get millions of votes and it is going to get millions of votes. And i think what im going to say to them today is the real opportunity is this whole net migration , ian, whole legal net migration, ian, plus the fact that no ones got the wit or the courage to deal with whats across the with whats coming across the engush with whats coming across the english about english channel, them about deaung english channel, them about dealing with channel problem dealing with the channel problem and , well and the migration, well never deal it. All the while, deal with it. All the while, were part of the European Convention on human rights. And that even echr wasnt that wasnt even echr wasnt even mentioned by sunak or believe it or not, Suella Braverman didnt mention it the week before. She had. She did not mention it. You are going to make a meal of that today, are you . Absolutely. Because this is a this is one of the biggest, most important issues in our country affecting life of affecting the quality of life of every family. Nobody else wants to. Okay. So pull out of the so we pull out of the european of human rights. European court of human rights. What do with that what do we then do with that independent power . What would independent power . What would you do . You then do . Well, what weve done , weve well, what weve done, weve gone for endless cheap labour coming into britain, both unskilled and skilled. Weve unskilled and skilled. Weve de skilled our own young people sending them off to university in their millions to get degrees that havent particularly helped them. We have genuine skill shortages. We have shortages of shortages. We have shortages of nurses. Weve got much wrong nurses. Weve got so much wrong over the course of the last few years and i cant pretend this can be turned around in a couple of minutes. But what i can tell you is this. I think that what reform in of its broad reform do in terms of its broad manifesto, how we get on in the next election in terms of numbers of votes, reform will be pivotal in reshaping where the centre right of politics goes after the next election. I think theres no doubt after that scottish result that labour are going to win a majority, but we have to see what kind of conservative party is it going to be. Do you think you personally can exert the same sort of influence you did during the brexit years . The brexit years . Yes, i mean, say are yes, i mean, they say you are one the most influential. If one of the most influential. If not the most influential person on british politics the last on british politics in the last ten, 15, 20 years. Do you ten, maybe 15, 20 years. Do you think if youre not think you can even if youre not with a party thats actually in power , can you exert that same power, can you exert that same sort of influence . Oh, yes, absolutely. Oh, yes, absolutely. Oh, yes, absolutely. Look, just by being a thorn in everyones side. Well, im good at that. Obviously i mean, you know, obviously but i mean, you know, if 2015 ukip if you look at the 2015 ukip manifesto , right, which i was manifesto, right, which i was condemned for what was in that manifesto, if you then take the 2019 manifesto that Boris Johnson won an 80 seat majority on you find a lot of it is very, very similar. Yes. So a lot of the rhetoric that ive pushed over the years has been copied by the conservatives, but they havent delivered on any it. Havent delivered on any of it. And you can you can read the times or any of these metropolitan newspapers to your hearts. You get outside hearts content. You get outside the m25 and you actually find that out there in this country, people are very sceptical of paying the cost of net zero, very concerned about levels of net migration. These are all things that arent even talked aboutin things that arent even talked about in most newsrooms. Do you know what upsets me when you say britain is broken up . I find that a very dismal outlook. And then i know that a lot of people would say, well, youre the reason britain is broken. Should still part broken. We should still be part of the eu. Would be much of the eu. We would be much more successful our friends successful with our friends around have a look the mess well, have a look at the mess theyre in. I mean, you know, despite our problems times, our gdp figures since we the gdp figures since we left the European Union are higher than both. Frances way higher actually, than of germany. Actually, than those of germany. And you can see with this summit thats been going on in i thats been going on in spain, i mean, warring mean, theyre theyre warring with within the with each other within the European Union, even the governor the bank of england. Governor of the bank of england. And great fan and im not a great fan of Andrew Bailey actually, Andrew Bailey said actually, brexit managing the brexit has made managing the city easier it was as city easier than it was as members of the union. So this isnt about, you know, this , isnt about, you know, this, this, this this isnt about that broken britain is about our pubuc broken britain is about our Public Services broken. Britain is about the population crisis. We have a population crisis. We havent got the schools, the hospitals, the houses or the roads to deal with it. And this has not been discussed. Its not has not been discussed. Its not been debated by anybody. And were going to make some noise and youre going to make sure it sort of the top of everybodys agenda, not just yours. Thats agenda, notjust yours. Thats the idea. And i think, you know, ive a record of doing ive got a track record of doing those things. You certainly have. My goodness, has asked what goodness, natasha has asked what id ask nigel id like to ask if nigel is a little this sudden little suspicious of this sudden interest in him from the conservative party. They always want when theyre in want you. Then, when theyre in trouble course. Trouble of course. No, shes absolutely no, no, shes absolutely right. Know, right. And. And you know, michael fabricant, the michael fabricant, one of the others, well, we should others, say, oh, well, we should beg him to come back and please , you save the next , nigel, can you save the next election us . Well, you know, election for us . Well, you know, ill be honest you. Ill be honest with you. Not only they lose next only will they lose the next election, they deserve to lose the next election. And i feel that very strongly. Chris has asked, and chris has asked, what doesit and chris has asked, what does it really say about us as a country if we pull out of the European Court of human rights . I up in part by i mean, it was set up in part by Winston Churchill this Winston Churchill and this country. Well, yes. 70 years ago, i mean, thats 70 years ago, more than 70 years ago. And it was set up to deal with the way in were being treated in which jews were being treated in which jews were being treated in the 30s in germany, human rights, basic rights, rights, human basic rights, refugee the same. Theyre still the same. Theyre still the same. No, no, no, no, no freedoms are far more important than state rights. Im not state given rights. Im not a great in state, great believer in state, given human rights. Great human rights. Im a great believer in liberty, a great believer, believer believer, a great believer in freedom. Moved freedom. And the worlds moved on in 70 years. This is an Outdated Court with outdated on in 70 years. This is an outdathat� ourt with outdated on in 70 years. This is an outdathat through1 outdated on in 70 years. This is an outdathat through judicialed ideas that through judicial activism , has reached way beyond activism, has reached way beyond the original scope. But even those of us who want to stand up against the state and how youve had to stand and look how youve had to stand up against the banks. For instance, if you cant appeal to a authority, you can only a higher authority, you can only appeal against your own state government, then youre very , government, then youre very, very limited, arent you . Hang on. We are the country of magna carta. We are the country of liberty, of freedom. Country of liberty, of freedom. We have judicial system which we have a judicial system which may be perfect, is may not be perfect, but is a sight better than that that exists america most of the exists in america or most of the rest of europe. We dont need rest of europe. We dont need foreign judges interfering in our decisions about how we control our borders, whether we can get rid of terrorists like abu qatada took us ten years to get rid of him because of the meddling of this court. If we left it, what does it say about us . Was the question. It says we are actually going into the 21st century and leaving the mid 20th century and leaving the mid 20th century behind. Are you sure it doesnt make meaner, nasty, doesnt make us a meaner, nasty, dear nation . We are not mean dear nation . We are not a mean and nasty. I dont believe we are. Well, i dont believe we are. But i about but no, were not. I worry about what would to us if we what would happen to us if we leave the European Court of human leave the European Court of hurwhat we need is more what we need is more self confidence, more belief that enough to set self confidence, more belief thanwn enough to set self confidence, more belief thanwn laws enough to set self confidence, more belief thanwn laws to enough to set self confidence, more belief thanwn laws to runjgh to set self confidence, more belief thanwn laws to run a h to set self confidence, more belief thanwn laws to run a good,5t our own laws to run a good, free, fair country without having to refer to some obscure group of people in strasbourg , group of people in strasbourg, many of whom, by the way, are not even legally trained. Im going to leave you there because i know youve got to rush off and actually make your speech, and itll fascinating speech, and itll be fascinating to were going to to hear you. Were going to cross i think, to cross live, i think, to liverpool because weve got keir starmer. Arriving at starmer. I think arriving at first for the future party first day for the future Party Conference and show labour conference and show that labour is of change and that is the party of change and that labouris is the party of change and that labour is britains future. Labour is britains future. So a really, really Good Opportunity for us to set out our case. Were all looking fonnard to it. Thank you so much i okay. Well that was short and sweet, wasnt it . But there you are. Its day one of the labor Party Conference. Nigel has just gone off to hold his Party Conference as well. In the meantime , one of the biggest meantime, one of the biggest news stories of the day has been the weather. So shall we catch up with that right now . Up with that right now . Hello there. Very good morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey. Who with your latest gb news forecast provided news Weather Forecast provided by office. Certainly by the met office. Certainly a different feeling day for those in north. To those in the in the north. To those in the south, pressure pushing in the north. To those in the so from pressure pushing in the north. To those in the so from continental pushing in the north. To those in the so from continental europe,|ing in from continental europe, importing heat for southern areas. This trailing frontal areas. But this trailing frontal system going be providing system is going to be providing very persistent rain very heavy and persistent rain across much of scotland throughout day. There is an throughout the day. There is an amber weather warning in force with and disruption to with flooding and disruption to transport likely in place, says the potential for a months worth of rainfall to fall in some locations may even lead to some locations may even lead to some shallow landslides. So do take care for northern ireland. Wales and england are largely dry day. Some hazy sunshine around at times, temperatures climbing towards 23 c in the south east where wed normally be around 16 degrees this be around 16 degrees at this time year. The be around 16 degrees at this time year. The rain will time of the year. The rain will continue, though, across scotland as we head over night. Scotland as we head over night. Again, pulses around again, some heavy pulses around at in other areas at times in other areas generally staying but well generally staying dry. But well start see some cloud push start to see some cloud push into england into eastern areas of england overnight. A little bit overnight. Turning a little bit murkier here. Most us, though murkier here. Most of us, though. Hot murkier here. Most of us, though , hot up , seeing temperatures hot up around 13 c. So a fairly around 12 to 13 c. So a fairly mild start to sunday. The rain across scotland will gradually push its way northwards during the day on sunday. Still some heavy forces for aberdeenshire. The highlands to begin with and then eventually into the Northern Isles later on the cloud in the east will be a bit stubborn to clear throughout the morning, the afternoon morning, but into the afternoon some should some brighter spells should develop. Be wales, develop. But it will be wales, southwest the southwest england that sees the best of the sunshine on sunday. Temperatures, though, again climbing towards 25 c in parts of enjoy your day by by. Of london. Enjoy your day by by. Okay. Coming up, well be live from staffordshire where thousands of motorcyclists will gather for a special service of remembrance. This is gb news. Welcome back. Its 930. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne and martin on gb news. Right. Heres the latest news coming into our newsroom right now. The Palestinian Islamic movement, hamas has launched the biggest attack on israel in years in a surprise assault that combined gunmen crossing the border with a heavy barrage of rockets fired from the gaza strip as warning sirens sounded across the southern and central of israel , including in of israel, including in jerusalem. Israels military jerusalem. Israels military said it was on a war footing as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called an emergency meeting of security. Officials say this story there and the uk is on course to see its biggest tax rise in at least 50 years as a result of the freeze on personal thresholds and soaring inflation. According to new analysis by the Resolution Foundation , the Resolution Foundation, taxpayers are set to hand over a whopping £40 billion a year by 2028, up from forecast of 30 billion at the time of chancellor jeremy hunts budget in march. It comes as mr hunt in march. It comes as mr hunt ruled out sizeable tax cuts this year amid tory calls for a pre election tax giveaway at the at the conservative Party Conference and northern and southern parts of the uk will continue to see a contrast in weather. This weekend, with High Temperatures and torrential rainfall affect different areas. The met office has issued both amber and yellow rain warnings for large parts of scotland and Northern England right through to tomorrow morning. And train to tomorrow morning. And Train Services in scotland are expected to be disrupted , with expected to be disrupted, with some operators warning passengers not to. Travel passengers not to. Travel okay. Time now for news matters. And this week, after matters. And this week, after much speculation , rishi sunak much speculation, rishi sunak finally announced his plan to redirect £36 billion of funding from the hs2 project to revolutionise transport across the north and midlands and that effectively means the north leg of the High Speed Railway thats hs2 linking birmingham and manchester will no longer happen and this was what he said at the tory Party Conference in manchester earlier this week. I am ending this long running saga. I am ending this long running saga. I am cancelling the rest saga. I am cancelling the rest of the hs2 project and in its place and in its place , we will place and in its place, we will we will reinforce test every single. Penny. £36 billion in single. Penny. £36 billion in hundreds of new transport projects in the north and the midlands across the country. This means £36 billion of investment in the projects that will make a real difference across our nation. Across our nation. No government has ever developed a more ambitious scheme for northern transport than our new network north. This is the right way to drive growth and spread opportunity across our country to level up with our new network north. You will be able to get from manchester to the new station in bradford in 30 minutes. Sheffield in 42 minutes, and to hull in 84 minutes, and to hull in 84 minutes on a fully electric line i okay. Joining us now is our travel guru, simon calder. Good morning to you. Simon so it was anticipated. It happened. He anticipated. It happened. He dropped the axe on hs2. Was that dropped the axe on hs2. Was that the right thing to do in terms of the public purse and the alternatives . Do they stack up as a decent solution . Not at all. Look, he he said in the foreword to the very , very long foreword to the very, very long and detailed study about what they were going to do instead, which miraculously, since hed only made his mind up on the morning, was quite surprising because it was very , very well because it was very, very well detailed. He said hs2 would only detailed. He said hs2 would only benefit tens of thousands of people from a handful of stations every day. This is Utter Nonsense and i assume he and the transport secretary , and the transport secretary, mark harper, and the rail minister hugh merriman, know it. What it was going to do was what the what the motonnays do for the what the motonnays do for the nation. And the reason the nation. And the reason youve got the m1, the m6, the m5, the m4 and all of those is partly to allow people and goods to around quickly. But its to get around quickly. But its also take the pressure off also to take the pressure off the local transport network. And thats exactly what the original vision, which government after government has signed up for, which is to have a line going to birmingham, splitting, going to manchester, going to leeds via sheffield, and then the absolute essential part, which is Northern Powerhouse rail going across from liverpool to manchester. And if you take that away and you just leave this kind of stump of a line going possibly from london, euston, maybe just from a patch of wasteland in west london to birmingham, you have saddled future generations with most of the costs and very few of the benefits. Benefits. Absolutely. I mean, thats what i cant understand. You. Youre the travel expert. I was. Youre the travel expert. I was. You almost hope that you can make more sense of it than the rest of us can because it makes no sense to us. Why you would not all way to euston and not go all the way to euston and why they started building the whole south to north. Whole thing from south to north. Anyway if youd to abandon anyway if youd had to abandon it now and it had been built from north downwards, that would have sense anyhow, have made more sense anyhow, wouldnt it . Well, you need to be left something. Be left with something. You need whole or you need the whole thing, or you nothing. Or rather, you you need nothing. Or rather, you are. Are simply not getting are. You are simply not getting the benefits. And look in decades to come. Of course, we will have something which looks like original hs2 but like the original hs2 plan, but it will be decades late. It will cost even more cash. And of course by re specifying yet again after so many changes of mind, each one of which adds a few billion to the price, the costis few billion to the price, the cost is just going to balloon even further. It is going to go down in history as probably be the worst managed Infrastructure Project of all time. And who knows when it will open and the it has just left me speechless that they could commit such vandalism , such an act of vandalism, such an act of National Vandalism , which is National Vandalism, which is just going to cause endless harm. It was a dreadfully run project. It needed to be got project. It needed to be got under control. But suddenly just under control. But suddenly just to say, yeah, well, we were going to have trains an hour going to have 17 trains an hour going to have 17 trains an hour going scotland , going from going from scotland, going from north from leeds , north wales, going from leeds, going going from going from sheffield, going from newcastle, into newcastle, all funnelling into this speed line. Now were this high speed line. Now were going to have eight trains an hour and most of them are just going be going to and from going to be going to and from birmingham. Fantastic news for birmingham. Fantastic news for birmingham all birmingham actually, because all those going those companies that were going to north are now to invest in the north are now going think, oh, no, well, going to think, oh, no, well, were going to move to the West Midlands instead. But for everybody disaster i mr okay. Simon calder, thank you update on hs2. You for that update on hs2. Were going to have to leave it there. And we are now going to a break. Please stay with us. Gb news. And a very warm welcome back. Sadly, were having to bring to you this breaking news that israel has declared war readiness. Thats what theyre calling it after surprise attacks from the gaza strip , attacks from the gaza strip, dozens of gunmen from the Palestinian Palestinian militant group hamas have infiltrated southern israel from the gaza strip in a completely surprise attack. Yeah, video has been shared on social media, appear to show palestinian military shooting at passers by in the streets of the israeli town of sderot. Yeah intense palestinian rocket fire from gaza has also killed one israeli woman. Thats the most we know at the moment. Israels defence minister said hamas had made a grave mistake and launched a war against his country. Country. Yeah, mr gallant added. Israeli troops are fighting the enemy at every location. The enemy at every location. The state of israel will win this war. The Israel Defence forces has said it had moved to a war footing and that dozens of fighter jets were carrying out airstrike attacks. Now on hamas sites in gaza and the rocket barrages from gaza , which is barrages from gaza, which is given, of course, by hamas , given, of course, by hamas, began just after dawn today at the end of the jewish holiday of sukkot. A sirens sound across sukkot. A sirens sound across israel. The idf announced that terrorists, they called them terrorists, they called them terrorists, had infiltrated israeli territory in a number of different locations. Different locations. Meanwhile, it all civilians in southern and central areas to stay next to air raid shelters and inside shelters in the surrounding area of gaza around where those rockets are landing i and if youre listening on the radio, were showing pictures at the moment that are coming to us live from gaza. And you can see there across the horizon, smoke coming up from what looks like rocket attacks in obviously a very built up area. There are lots of videos area. There are lots of videos on posted online at the moment, but some footage appeared to show a group of heavily armed palestine militants dressed in black fatigues driving around in a pickup truck. Yeah, and in one video, the same hamas militants seem to be exchanging gunfire with Israeli Forces on the streets of the town, which is a mere one mile from gaza. There mere one mile from gaza. There are also unconfirmed reports in the palestinian media that a number of israelis have been taken captive by militants. And theres footage circulating of palestinians in gaza driving Israeli Military vehicles. A significant escalation here. The rocket barrages, meanwhile , have continued with meanwhile, have continued with israeli media reporting that more than 2200 projectiles have so far been launched towards israel. Israel. Just to remind you, youre watching us here on breakfast here on gb news. But were having to bring to you this very latest breaking news, which is coming from israel. Were seeing coming from israel. Were seeing smoke in the distance, very built up areas and there we are. Were talking about hamas attacking israel. Theres been a barrage of rockets launched into israel from the gaza strip , israel from the gaza strip, multiple explosion sites there. Multiple explosion sites there. Plumes of smoke pouring up across the across gaza. You can see rockets there. The footage on screen shows rockets flying into a heavily built up area , into a heavily built up area, densely populated, leaving trails across the sky. Plumes of explosions on the ground , smoke explosions on the ground, smoke billowing up in the air. Now, clearly resembling an a war zone i right. Were looking at this at the moment. And you can see those rocket trails in the sky. But obviously, were only learning minute to minute about things like casualties. An things like casualties. An initial report said one person had been killed in the rocket attacks, 16 others wounded, but you only have to look at these pictures to know that those numbers are going to go up. A hospital in the Southern City of ashkelon later said it was treating 68 casualties alone. Treating 68 casualties alone. Another hospital reported 80 others. This is a very serious situation happening at this very moment. And in a severe ramping up of rhetoric here, a senior hamas military command announced the start of the operation in a broadcast on hamas media, calling on palestinians everywhere here to take up arms and fight. Mohammed deif said this. This is the day of the greatest battle to end the last occupation on earth. Occupation on earth. And weve heard weve just heard from our own foreign secretary that this obviously has been utterly condemned by him. And i imagine the rest of the government obviously , the government obviously, theres going to be a tremendous amount of reaction to this in the coming minutes. But the time at the moment, quarter to ten, youre listening and watching gb news breakfast. But sadly, with this appalling news that there are very serious conditions going on in israel with hamas attacking at the moment in case youre just joining us, israel has declared war after being attacked by hamas, as we just said, up to 2200 projectiles have landed in gaza from the occupied palestinian area. Occupied palestinian area. And its been declared as an act of war. Both sides now calling this open war. I mean, this has only been happening in the last few minutes. The Palestinian Islamist group hamas has launched the biggest attack on israel in years in a surprise assault that combined gunmen crossing into several israeli towns with a heavy barrage of rockets fired from the gaza strip. And you can see live footage on screen now, if you cant see that on the radio, it is explosions. Iwns rocketts is explosions. Iwns Rocketts Landing in very, very densely Populated Areas is next to tower blocks as and just mentioned, hospitals , huge explosions going hospitals, huge explosions going off in a very residential area. Off in a very residential area. Yes. Warning sirens wailing across southern and central israel, including including in jerusalem. Israel military said it was on a war footing and the defence minister said the iran backed hamas had made a grave mistake by declaring war on israel and just coming. Israel and just coming. Hundreds of people are being treated in israeli hospitals and with at least one israeli woman killed by this intense rocket fire from the gaza strip. That news just in. We now have the first fatalities and it seems hundreds of casualties being treated in israeli hospitals in now what is a escalating act of warfare. Live images now on screen. As you can see there, plumes of smoke right across the honzon plumes of smoke right across the horizon all around gaza. And they are increasing more explosions there. It looks and like a complete war zone there. Yeah , were bringing you the yeah, were bringing you the very latest pictures and the very latest pictures and the very latest pictures and the very latest news, though, things are clearly developing fast in that situation. The Israeli Military said it had launched airstrikes into gaza where witnesses reported hearing heavy explosions there. The attack marks an unprecedented infiltration in by an unknown number of hamas gunmen into israel from gaza. And one of the most serious escalation scenes in the Israeli Palestinian in the Israeli Palestinian conflict in the Israeli Palestinian conflict in years. Yeah , and a Senior Commander yeah, and a Senior Commander from hamas is affirming the claim made by the israelis. Hes hes saying himself that, yes , hes saying himself that, yes, thousands of rockets have been launched out from gaza into israel. Confirmation now from hamas of what the israelis claim , thousands of projectiles raining into a very densely populated area with hundreds of casualties already reported. And casualties already reported. And at least one israeli woman reported dead. Reported dead. Israeli media reporting that gunmen had opened fire on passers by in the street in sderot in southern israel. And sderot in southern israel. And there is footage, as you can imagine, circulating on social media, appearing to show clashes in city streets , as well as in city streets, as well as gunmen in jeeps roaming the countryside. Yeah, and the Israeli Military now has confirmed its began striking targets in the gaza strip. In response to what it calls to the barrages of rockets. So to the barrages of rockets. So now israel struck , striking back now israel struck, striking back bombs firing either way, rockets firing either way across this occupied very densely populated area in gaza and on social media that were seeing, theres a report from a young woman named dvir who is in a kibbutz. Shes told Israeli Army Radio from her bomb shelter, she says, we were told there are terrorists inside our kibbutz. We can hear gunfire, fire and reports here saying that israel was caught off guard in a huge intelligence failure. Intelligence failure. This is a colossal intelligence failure for israel. The country is one of the most extensive and sophisticated Intelligence Networks in the middle east, both domestic and internal and external that was breached. Reports here by, it appears , jeeps just driving into appears, jeeps just driving into the area and soldiers pouring out and just opening fire on civilians in the street. Civilians in the street. Its 10 to 10. Were bringing you the very latest news as we can at the moment from israel with these reports just a few minutes ago that hamas has launched an unprecedented attack on areas of israel. Hamas media on areas of israel. Hamas media displaying videos of what it said was bodies of Israeli Soldiers brought into gaza by fighters and palestinian gunmen inside israeli homes and touring an israeli town in jeeps reportedly being driven into israel by the attackers. And obviously , if youre listening obviously, if youre listening on the radio at the moment, were seeing terrible footage of explosions going off and cars on fire in the streets. Fire in the streets. It looks like theyre a very densely populated area. Theres a car park at what appears to be around tower blocks. All of those vehicles blazing in fire. Clearly struck. And by one of those 2200 rockets that the israelis are claiming have landed. And indeed , hamas just landed. And indeed, hamas just confirmed they have indeed fired thousands of projectiles into this area. And we have 200 casualties, at least reported in israeli hospitals and confirmation of at least one woman dead so far. Headlines in the media quote , israels Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying we are at war. Terror fighting words actually after this very surprise. Palestinian attack this morning. Yeah, and this , of course, is yeah, and this, of course, is a confrontation thats been raging for many, many years, decades. Raging for many, many years, decades. But this and raging for many, many years, decades. But this and is the most serious escalation of anything weve ever seen in this area, both sides now declaring they are at war, both sides firing rockets at each other. Firing rockets at each other. The fighting talk from hamas, this is an act of warfare, encouraging all palestinians to take up arms and fight back. Take up arms and fight back. The Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu in israel said he would meet top Security Officials in the next few hours and theyre going to authorise the call up of reservists. And the call up of reservists. And in gaza, the roar of rocket launchers could be heard. And launchers could be heard. And residents have reported armed clashes along the separation fence with israel near the southern town of khan younis. And said they had seen Significant Movement of armed fighters. And it seems to be significant that its based around a jewish holiday. Around a jewish holiday. Accusations here that the Israeli Security forces were caught off guard, asleep at the wheel. Were hearing here during a period where there was a lull, it seems hamas were able to launch a surprise attack during this period , just literally this period, just literally driving into gaza and opening fire on the streets, accompanied by thousands of rockets flying over the border. It seems the over the border. It seems the israelis have been caught completely off guard. Completely off guard. Israels Ambulance Service said teams had been dispatched to areas in southern israel near gaza and residents were warned to stay inside and a Group Representing military reservists who had planned to refuse to attend training over their objections to the governments plans to overhaul the judicial. Plans to overhaul the judicial. Marie well, theyve called on reservists to report for duty. Reservists to report for duty. Yeah. Benjamin nato, are you there saying this is an act of war . Already . Reports saying that israeli is counter attacking with rockets flying into palestinian territory and no doubt there will be a huge response. There will be a Massive Force in response from israel all to counter this and the big question will be how will they asleep at the wheel . How was they were were hamas allowed just to drive in and start opening fire on the streets, taking casualties, at least injured, one dead so least 200 injured, one dead so far. And the bombs , it appear, far. And the bombs, it appear, are still raining in. Well, we hear that israel , well, we hear that israel, israeli reservists are now being called up and the palestinian an Islamic Jihad group says its fighters were also joining hamas. Now, in this terrifying attack, grave, grave moments , an attack, grave, grave moments, an escalation of a long standing dispute. Very, very sad way for dispute. Very, very sad way for to us end our Breakfast Program this saturday morning. But we this saturday morning. But we obviously stay tuned to gb news. Well keep you up to date. Now, the weather. Hello there. Very good morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey here with your latest gb news Weather Forecast provided by the met office. Certainly a different feeling day for those in the north to those in the south, High Pressure pushing south, High Pressure is pushing in continental europe, in from continental europe, importing southern importing heat for southern areas. But this trailing frontal system is going to be providing very heavy and persistent rain across scotland across much of scotland throughout the day. There is an amber weather warning in force with flooding and disruption to transport likely be place is transport likely be in place is the potential for a months worth of rainfall to fall in some locations and may even lead to some shallow landslides. So to some shallow landslides. So do take care for northern ireland. Wales and england are largely dry day. Hazy largely dry day. Some hazy sunshine around at times, temperatures climbing towards 23 c in the southeast where wed normally around degrees at normally be around 16 degrees at this of the year. Rain this time of the year. The rain will continue , though, across will continue, though, across scotland we over night. Scotland as we head over night. Again, some heavy pulses around at other areas generally at times. Other areas generally staying dry, but well start to see cloud push eastern see some cloud push into eastern areas overnight. Areas of england overnight. Turning a little bit murkier here. Of though, seeing here. Most of us, though, seeing temperatures hot around 12 to temperatures hot up around 12 to 13 c. A fairly mild start to 13 c. So a fairly mild start to sunday. The rain across scotland will gradually push its way northwards during the day on sunday. Still some heavy pulses for aberdeenshire and the highlands with and then highlands to begin with and then eventually into the Northern Isles on the cloud and the isles later on the cloud and the east a bit stubborn to east will be a bit stubborn to clear throughout morning, clear throughout the morning, but afternoon some but into the afternoon some brighter develop, brighter spells should develop, but southwest but it will be wales, southwest england of england that sees the best of the sunshine sunday. The sunshine on sunday. Temperatures, again temperatures, though, again climbing towards 25 c in parts of your by by the way. Hello and welcome to the way. Hello and welcome to saturday morning live with esther and phil. Esther and phil. Now, you will have heard the news, the very sudden news that hamas has attacked israel. And well be discussing the implications with that with our panel implications with that with our panel. Simon danczuk and kevin woodford. 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